Today, the guys are in Atlanta, Georgia, for SEC Media Day. The SEC Commissioner gives his thoughts on the Southeastern Conference's strength of schedule. We see how the conference foes view the Longhorns this season. Seattle Mariners Catcher Cal Raleigh won the Major League Baseball Home Run Derby. The New York Jets pay Wide Receiver Garrett Wilson. ESPN ranks the NFL quarterbacks. Plus, conversations with Joe Cook of Inside Texas, Mr. SEC, legendary sportswriter Tony Barnhart, and Executive Producer of the upcoming docuseries Any Given Saturday, Paul Martin. You can hear it all here on “The Morning Kickoff Show!”
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Speaker 3 (02:06):
I want to start this off by saying.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
ATL shouty, ATL Shot.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
We up in this same down. We're in this place.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
We're here in Atlanta, Georgia, in the College Football Hall
of Fame, which is pretty pretty cool if you ask me.
I've been here one time before. This is my second
time in Atlanta. Being able to be in the College
Football Hall of Fame. We got a chance to do
a tour I don't know fame here.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
Yeah I was.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Yeah, I got it on my phone from when I
standed up next to a couple of people.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Dare you go?
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Okay, I thought you said you in Yeah, you get
my drift, You get my drift.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
But uh yeah, it's.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Pretty cool to be up in here and seeing all
the people here on radio row. We call it a
digital row now because I mean, everybody's digital. Everybody show,
everybody is here, everybody's digital.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
I will say this.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
I was here early this morning and there was a
shell going on and I don't you know, do your thing,
but you can hear it. It is loud and people
were yelling. And now there's more people here, so it
changes the whole view of everything. But let me just
tell you this. When people start yelling, I'm like, is
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the headset broke? Because there's some other things.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
That are here. God got Buka in the house, got gotta.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
B k If you take your headset off, it sounds
like you just mentioned like you just like to your grandma, huh, hey, Cam,
what do.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
You think about my shirt. I love it. This is hard.
Your shirt makes sense, makes sense.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Your you get your bicepsy set when your biceps.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
No, I can fit in hardest clothes.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
Mark I hold if you don't understand that you are
not fitting out. Oh, it's busted over. Man, A sausage
man over here. I got this Mediumonum. It's like I
have a sausage case and you have two buttons. The
second button it's fighting for its life right now. You're
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gonna kill Paul Finebaum today.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Hey, I saw Paul downstairs when I was walking in,
and I introduced myself and I said, I'm one of
the people that listen to you, and one of them.
I've thought about calling in several times because there's some
things that that that I just totally disagree with.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
He said, Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
He said, that would be awesome if you called in,
And I said, Paul, it's gonna happen.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
Me and Mike harg are gonna call it to your
show together one day.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Oh man, outstanding stuff. But yes, it's an exciting time
down here Texas. Obviously, as I said in the opening,
Texas will be the featured attraction for most of the
people here.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
You know, as well as I do.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
It creates a lot of chaos when the Longhorns are
in the house.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
There's also gonna be Kirby Smart.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
You know, Kirby Smart is pretty direct with his comments
and let you know right away exactly how he feels
and what it looks like going forward. But we got
a really good, good show today. Well I love to
say great, but I don't want people hating. But we're
gonna have another great show.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Yeah. We got Tony Barnhardt.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Mister SEC, mister college Football, will be joining us at
eight seventeen. We also have Paul Martin, uh, the director
of SEC. Any Given Saturday, Any Given Saturday, a new
hockey series.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
When you get him, now that I won't have my
world strongest take today.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Yeah, well, yeah, some things are better left unsaid, you
know what.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
I'm over his so.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
But one of the main things that we wanted to
talk about is obviously the SEC media days and Greg
Sank talked to the Little Little Bit yesterday and this
is courtesy of Orange Bloods and our gut en War
Richardson talking about the SEC and its strength of schedule.
Speaker 5 (06:09):
Conference games while some others play nine conference games. Never
been a secret second, it's also correct that last season,
all sixteen members of the Southeastern Conference played at these
nine games against what you would label power opponents. We
had several that played ten of their twelve games against
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power opponents. Some conferences have that, some don't. The same
would be true this year, and we have Washington State
and we're obviously transitioning in the paw of twelve. It's
included in that group, and we again have several of
our football teams that have ten of those power games
embedded within their schedule. I don't believe there's anyone looking
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to swap their conference schedule, and it's some opponents, the
opponents played by Southeastern Conference teams in our conference schedule,
be it eight or nine. I headed out a bunch
of stats and created a stir and dustin this show.
There's a rigor here that is unique. And yes, you see,
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we're not lacking for quality competition among our sixteen football teams.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
But we're going to.
Speaker 5 (07:22):
Continue to evaluate whether increasing the number of conference football
games is appropriate for us. And as I said repeatedly, understanding.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
How the CFP will evaluate.
Speaker 5 (07:35):
Strength of schedule meed and strength of record is critically
important in our decision making.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Well, you understand now, because everybody wants to talk about
the format and how all of this is supposed to transpire.
But the thing about it, to me mark the playoff
system continues.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
To be what it is.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
We've already created this narrative where it just means more
in the SEC, and we've also seen the dominance in
which the SEC has performed at a high level.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
You know as well as I do.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
You start to look around and you start to understand
this does mean a little bit more because now the
playing field is even heightened even more.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
How many, how many teams you want to end? I mean,
it's just at some point it gets to be too much.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Sixteen sixteen is good.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Sixteen is good, yeah, but I'm just saying it shouldn't
be more than that. And the people that wanted to
be more than that are the ones that are not able.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
They're not qualifying for the top ten.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
I mean, really, you should you should make it twelve, yep,
you know, I mean, just have a bracket on one side,
of bracket six on the other and just see who
comes to the end. But there's not There's there's enough
bowl games and people, but I mean, who cares about
the ball games really, to be honest with you, if
you just want to PLAYFF, you want to go to
the Mighty Key Ball, the Toilet Bowl?
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (08:58):
Do you want to go to the Humanitarian Bowl?
Speaker 3 (09:02):
I mean you do.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
But I'm just saying, like, in general, there's no there's
no desire. Yeah, I mean that's what I'm saying, Like
it changes the whole perspective. There's got to be a
part of goal at the end of that rainbow, right,
Like you're working hard to become a champion, So how's
the process? And you know as well as I do,
there are wild cards that end up making it. Think
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about the New York Giants that year. They were what
uh a five hundred team and then all of a
sudden they find a way to get into the Super
Bowl and win and beat the Patriots. I mean, there's
there's so many different stories that are out there at
this particular time. But the main thing for me is
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it is true. The strength of schedule is just that
it's the sec eating their own right.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
That's why Texas wanted to be in the scree And
if that's it shows that you are the elite of
the elite, then you win right and Oklahoma is gonna
be a lot better team this year. The two things
that were the biggest problem is they were injured their
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wide receiver and they didn't have somebody that could throw
the ball more in fifteen yards. They fixed both of
those in the off season. Oklahoma is gonna be a
better team this year. So like the two teams that
came into the SEC, hard is going to be dramatically better.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
So it just makes the conference even stronger.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Yeah, it's it's gonna be interesting. We'll continue the conversations
as we're starting day two of SEC media days in
the atl Concrete Cowboy or yassays was outside yesterday.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
You got Major League Carter.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Oh yeah, Herd I thought it was concrete Cowboy Cowboy
Carter and everybody else was out there.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
We've had a good time.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
We got a chance to sit down and talk to
a lot of people. We will continue these discussions because
coming up next we're gonna talk more about the SEC.
You'll hear from Lane Kiffin. You're here from Diego, Pavia
and he's got a lot to talk about. So I'm
excited about it, and we'll continue those conversations right here.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
On a Texas Tuesday.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Addition, from the atl of the morning kickoff on Sports
Radio AM thirteen hundred all eight into my own end,
We're back in Atlanta at atl Shouty.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
We here at SEC Media Days.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
Kirby Smart gets things going today and everything ends with Texas.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
So Texas closes it out.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
You also have Tennessee today as well, but let's talk
about Texas.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
It's gonna be chaotic, man.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
We were taking bets last night trying to figure out
how many actual players and coaches are gonna make it
up here where we are because last year when we
were in Atlanta, I mean in Dallas, it was a
little bit different and it changes the way that you
were able to maneuver. Well, now you get a chance
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to do some different things and it's been pretty dog
one cool as things start to break down, So get
to see a lot of people and that just goes
to show us that football season is here. Yeah, and
we're up against it, so I'm excited about it. Coming up,
in the next segment, we have our weekly with Joe
Cook of Inside Texas.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
He's actually on site, so we'll get a.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
Chance to kick it with Joe and get a chance
to talk to him a little bit as we get
closer and closer to the kickoff, and speaking about the kickoff,
I wanted to get into this conversation, Mark, because Lane
Kiffin talked yesterday, and you know Lane Kiffin. For Lane Kiffin,
he seemed pretty tame than what he normally was. But
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he did give a tip of the cap to Steve
sark and of course Kirby Smart and how these guys
are the ones that are at the top of the
field type TI, who do you.
Speaker 5 (13:07):
Think is gonna take this uh, this field next year?
Sarkis can have a chance over Georgia and how can
we look at it though your eyes?
Speaker 3 (13:17):
Well, I think that's Those are the two premier programs
and premier coaches.
Speaker 6 (13:22):
In college football, and so I think they do an
amazing job, you know, having having both of them, being
both of them at Alabama and to see how they've
they've used that and then being with Sarkis at USC
as well, and how he's used Pete Carroll things and
implemented there. I think they both do an amazing job.
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And really in those SEC meetings, you know, you're always
listening to the coaches and their input. I feel like
both those guys really run their program truly as a CEO,
and they know everything that's going on, and they're very
creative in their ideas and how to navigate through this
world right now. So I think they're both really good friends,
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really good people, and phenomenal.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
Coaches and they are all those things that he said.
That was Terry Middleton asking that question. And you know
the one thing about all of this, and you know
as well as I do, you've got to be able
to build from within. You have to be able to
create the mindset of the football coach, right, like we
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talk about the players sound like the head coach. And
now we're sitting in a point where these things have
kind of turned into all right, just that question. Lane
could have been rude about it because it's like, wait
a minute, my program is pretty dog one good too.
But the respect of all of those guys together, he
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took it. He took the high road in that sense.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Cards you've seen the NFL Quarterback Club, right, those guys
they look out for each other, correct, and the coaches
are not not exactly the same, right, there's no difference.
They look out Well, there are some coaches that you
really want to sometimes there's always that one person with
what you say, the one that is the babyface in
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the hill. There's always all exactly, you know, it's all
about them, yeah, you so forth. But for the most part,
UH as a collective, you you want the standard to
be the standard. You always say that, and they want
to get they want to know who's going to get
paid what, because it's going to raise the tide.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
For everybody, exactly.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
And so with both of these programs, the way that
they're set up, the way that they've been able to
do certain things as far as building their programs the
way that they want to. Obviously, Kirby has been the
pick of the little He's been at the top of
the food chain. But yes, other guys are coming. Other
guys are making moves like Steve Sarkisian who went from
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five to seven to eight and five and then back
to back. Double wind UH double digit wins and playoff
appearances are something that you always try to strive for.
But one of the teams that believes that they are
really the hype is Vanderbilt and Diego Pavia, who has
been in college for like seems like since Cam was
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in college. They might have went to school together because
from what I understand, the dudes twenty four years old
playing college quarterback, and still he might try to get
another year.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
Who knows. You never know what's gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
You know, everybody's not going to play at the highest
level in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
OK.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
So if you can maximize your time as a pro
in well i'd said pro in college, but as a
starter in college that you could.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
Call it a pro in college. Profession paid, they get paid.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
I mean, I don't know if he's getting a million
or if he getting more than a million. Yeah, but
still none of that's that's a good living, really good living.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
Oh for sure. You know you do that three or
four years and then you go into the workforce, you've
already you got a leg up.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
But the one thing about Diego Papa you don't have
to worry about is his confidence. The one thing that
really drives him nuts right now is the fact that
they lost to Texas, And he spoke on that yesterday.
Speaker 5 (17:21):
Well, we had a lot of close Oh, we had
a lot of close games last year.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
Texas is one that we lost by three. Obviously, we
want to, you know, get every loss.
Speaker 5 (17:31):
Back and a bench every loss but we get to
see them in Austin, so.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
It'll be a fun game.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Yeah, that's gonna be another fun game. We get a
chance to see him in Austin, Texas this year. Now
let's see how he succumbs to that pressure of being
in the d k R.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
Well.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
I think he lives for those types of moments. Though,
if you watch the way he plays, you know he's
got some. We're sitting next to the folks over at Texas.
He's got a little bit of that Johnny Manzell to
him to where he's got that.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
He won't some of that phone. He wants to be
a part of a lot of that action.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
So he got a mouth on him. Yeah, he's ready
to go. I guarantee you that Anthony Hill gonna have
something to close it.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
They gonna they're ready to light him up. Yeah, keep
my name out your mouth, no doubt. So today we
have Auburn Georgia Tennessee and finish it off with the
University of Texas. And you know what, I'm what are
you expecting to hear from these coaches? Obviously you look
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at who Georgia is with Kirby and I talked.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
About that he's very blunt.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
We've already we know Sark's motto and how he goes
about his business. Josh Heipel is Josh Hipel gonna talk
a lot about the Nico I'm gonna leave you situation?
Or is he gonna try to figure out how he
is going to maneuver because remember I told you yesterday
they didn't bring a quarterback. They didn't bring a quarterback
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this year two sec media days and that's all pack.
They're protecting the fact that the number one question is
going to be asked. Uh So, y'all lost shows franchise quarterback,
so to speak. And now you're taking that place, you know,
are you up? But on everything? Tennessee? And then you
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also got to look at Auburn. What is Auburn's situation?
Hugh Freeze? Is Hugh Freeze on a very very thin,
thin sheet of ice right now? Is he on thin
ice that much to where if he doesn't go out
and produce and be able to create the atmosphere in Auburn?
Speaker 3 (19:42):
Is that it? We heard from Cam Newton the other day.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Cam was talking about you could be three and seven
and taking on Alabama and all you got to do
is win that game. Because the SEC is built a
little bit different. Auburn, on the other hand, it's tired
of being below.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
They're tired of that.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
They've been to the mountaintop, they know what it looks like,
and they've had other opportunities, but over the last two
seasons they haven't been that great. So now what what's
the next move? What's the next opportunity? How is this
going to happen? So there's a lot of those.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
The deodor in his winning for sure, because you can
have that three and beat three and seven. But if
you beat Oklahoma and you beat the Aggies, then you
you're good.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
Yeah, Well, I don't know about three and seven in
Austin anymore.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
That's not gonna fly anymore. That's that's a recipe for
LED's to raise our standards.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
This is the recipe for start to uh get a realtor,
because you yeah, you ain't got to go home, but
you gots to get up out of here.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
Well you know as well as I do.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
This is not that time of year. That's not that
time or place anymore. This is a more put together,
well built, oiled machine that is trending in the right direction.
Coach Sarkesian with his leadership and his camaraderie with his
coaching staff. I told Craig yesterday that that, to me
was the best deoda. It not making all those changes
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at the highest level where you're changing coordinators every year, coach.
I think there's only two teams in the country, and
Texas is one of them that has the exact same
offensive coordinator, defensive coordinator, and hand coach. So good things
are happening on the forty Acres. When we come back,
we're gonna get Joe Cook up Inside Texas and find
out what his thoughts.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
Are about SEC Media Day. Now. It is time.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
We're getting closer and closer to the kickoff of the
football season. Right here on Sports Radio AM thirteen hundred
the Zone. We are live in Atlanta, Georgia, day two
of SEC Media Days. And you know when SEC Media
Days start, you got to bring out all your guests,
and it just happens happens to be in the atl
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is our guy, Joe Cook of Inside Texas. You can
follow him at Joseph Cook eighty nine. Joe always good
to catch up with you, and it just so happens
to be We're getting closer and closer to the football season.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
I know, it's so exciting.
Speaker 7 (22:21):
I once we hit like the part of the countdown
where it's you're not looking in the fifties and when
they're like, who even worre number fifty three, it's like
number forty eight, And I can remember a couple guys
who were forty eight or forty six and that type
of thing. So I'm really excited at this point, no doubt.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
So what was your biggest takeaway yesterday? Was it sanky
was it Vanderbilt? Was it Lane Kiffin? What was your
thoughts on yesterday's media days.
Speaker 7 (22:46):
I was really focused in on what Sankie had to
say because there's so much going on, and he admitted it,
and he's very good about putting out the SEC's message,
and I wondered what he would say about, you know,
all and il stuff about game you know, schedules and
stuff like that. But I knew he was going to
really emphasize like this is a power conference, this is
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all that, and kind of kick everything, kick the can
down the road.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
He doesn't.
Speaker 7 (23:13):
I think he understands that when he goes to Destin
for those spring meetings, that's a place where he can
kind of tackle hard issues, but he wants to celebrate
the SEC at an event like this, and yeah, there
are going to be things to talk about, but he
wants he wants to put focus on the season.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
I was I like listening to him talk.
Speaker 7 (23:30):
I know that's kind of company guy things to say,
but like I do like watching him and because I
think he's he's very well prepared for whatever he goes
and talks about, and I think that's a good thing
to have when there's so much going on in college sports.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Joe, you have to see somebody own a room, Like
he walks in and owns a room.
Speaker 7 (23:49):
Not in this type of environment because there are a
lot of people who I don't want to like powerful people. Yeah,
I don't want to like deify him, but like at
the same time, like there are a lot of people
in the room who don't He's just like, okay, you're
bleeding blood, like I do whatever. But like he definitely
walks in controls the room.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
And that dude has a presence.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
When you see him walk in, it's like Chafts music
starts playing. You hear he's got his own background music.
Like that dude is powerful man. So let me ask
you this. So we we we've kicked that can down
the road. As far as the college football playoffs, everybody's
going back and forth the eleven five five eleven, whatever
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it may be. But when you get down to the
brass tacks of it all and you look at this conference,
the SEC, from top to bottom, there's no denying that
it is one of the premiere, if not the premiere
conference from head to head. If you were to go
and play each other conference head to head, you could
take the best of them that conference and play the
best of that conference. You can play the worst of
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that conference and play the worst. SEC is pretty much
going to be that conference. Did we think we knew this?
But now being a part of this, you really get
to see it, don't you.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
That's the thing.
Speaker 7 (25:03):
I think there are a lot of Texas fans who
still are not in the whole like ra ra SEC thing,
and I don't think they ever will be right just
because they're the latest arrivals. They have not a lot
of people in the league like them anyway, and they've
got three different teams that already are not big fans
of them, and the Texas walking in year one and
making it to the SEC title game probably didn't endear
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very many other fan bases, and winning baseball, you know,
winning the softball national championship, they probably looking so, oh, no,
what do.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
We do letting these guys and girls in?
Speaker 7 (25:34):
But I think at the same time, yeah, you look
around and you see why this league is. Did they
care more and they had the dollars to back up
that care more. And you see that in football, men's
and women's basketball, baseball, basically all the big sports to
where they back up they put their money where their
mouth is. And when it comes to the playoff, personally,
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like I like that five to eleven idea, like let
the best, you know, you get your conference champions in,
and then you let the highest rated teams in. Where
Sank disagrees is he thinks that the Big twelve and
others conferences are inferior to a level to where the
SEC and the Big ten deserve more spots just because
they play at that higher level. I don't agree with it,
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but I see why he's saying that. But then at
the same time he talks about how there also needs
to be a change in the selection process or maybe
a little bit more you know, just transparency, And I
think that's true too, because yeah, he's going to go
to the bat for Ole Miss and Alabama and South
Carolina over a team like SMU in Indiana, right right,
completely understand that. And so if he's going to do that,
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he would like to know what the process is. I
think last year of the process is like, you know what,
eleven wins is more than nine? And I know that
we all wins don't look the same. But when the
difference is two, you don't need to do all the
strength to schedule stuff. But if it's one, okay, you
can start playing that game.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
Joe that if that win is over Sam Houston as
opposed to eating Vanderbilt, then you it means more.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
It does.
Speaker 7 (27:05):
But I struggle to go to like analytics and strength
to schedule when the difference is to total wins.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
I'm with you on that.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
I always say that the numbers can look the way
you want them to look, right, you know that that's
the accounting, right he started looking at Oh I wrote
off this because of that, and oh we made that work.
We made and he was cooking the books exactly. So
I'm with you on that. We're talking to Joe Cook
of Inside Texas. You can follow him at Joseph Cook
eighty nine.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
Joe.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Now we get down to the football season and you're
you know that the Hike train, which is the Texas Longhorns,
are coming in today. But I really want to hear
what Kirby Smart has to say, because Kirby is another
guy who pounds his chest for the sec He knows
what it looks like to be there. He's been at Alabama,
he's played for Georgia, and now he's won national championships
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with Georgia. Do you find him interesting and somebody that's
very direct with his comments?
Speaker 3 (28:01):
Absolutely.
Speaker 7 (28:02):
I think he probably is right behind Mark Stoops for
being in this room the longest. And you know, Kentucky's
a basketball school. I don't think what Mark Soops says
is gonna have a lot of sway. So he's the
guy kind of at the forefront of the league, obviously
the most successful coach in the league of the past
few years, and he says what he thinks is going
to be best for University of Georgia and his football program.
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And to be honest with you, what's usually best for
Georgia is good for a school like Texas as well. Right,
So I think it's one of those situations where he, yeah,
definitely comes in. What I'm really curious to see is
how he's gonna say, how he's gonna look at the
media and said, y'all.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
Didn't believe we were gonna do it. Y'all thought we
were gonna go seven and five.
Speaker 7 (28:40):
And then I looked at they send out all the literature,
like everybody picked Georgia to be the SEC or Georgia
was the predominant pick to be the SEC champion last year,
so no one knows how to spend a narrative for
his own sake, like Kirby Smart.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
But yeah, he'll come in.
Speaker 7 (28:54):
I'm quarterback situation is the most fascinating part for me
because that is a team that, for the first first
time in a while, it looks like they've made good
decisions in the portal at wide receiver, and they've not
really relied on wide receiver because they have guys like
you know, Lost and Lucky and Oscar delp.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
And not Bowman, but the.
Speaker 7 (29:14):
Tight ends, the raiders, I forget his names. They they
haven't had to rely on receivers. Now they have some receivers,
but who's gonna be throwing it to him is if
Leasy is a Stockton Again, that's the big storyline for
Georgia in a league where there's so many solid situations
at quarterback.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
And they brought Gunner stocked in here, so it'll be
interesting to see how he handles it and seeing what
he believes in the pressure of playing that position. There
is Joseph Cook from Inside Texas and on three.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
You can follow him.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
At Joseph Cook eighty nine, and of course you can
find all of his stuff at on three dot com.
Him and his crew do an unbelievable job and I'm
glad we got a chance to do it in person
this time.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
Yeah, he's awesome. Proud three proud dads, sir, Help we
make it happen. When we come back, we'll continue the
conversation home run Derby.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
It was hitting some long balls last night and Joe
knows the thing about that as well. Right here on
the morning kickoff from SEC Media Days in Atlanta, Georgia.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
Right here on Sports Radio AM thirteen hundred.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
This's all great stuff by I got Joe Cook of
Inside Texas. You can follow them at Joseph Cook eighty
nine for all the latest, yes and exciting Times SEC
Media Days from the city of Atlanta.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
Outstanding stuff. As always, so.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
Many people are here for the Auburn Tigers. You got
Texas coming in a little bit later, Tennessee. There's so
many people that are here, so a lot of fun
for good things that are happening. But last night in Atlanta,
home Run Derby was taking place. There'll be the All
Star Game tonight. We'll close off the show talking about
the All Star Game and the lineups that were there.
Speaker 3 (30:54):
But last night Home Run Derby. Did you see Cody
Rose walk out there? No se Cody? Yeah, man, I
send you the crip. What was he doing? Just giving
out the trophy? I mean, did he give out the belt?
Speaker 1 (31:05):
Because everybody got a championship belt, so I must have
called it at the end. Yeah, I missed that part
of it. But yeah, so as always, they're they're doing
so many amazing things. The best story of it all though,
was the Rileigh family and what they were able to
do because of the fact that you look at the
dad was pitching to him, the brother, who's a fifteen
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year old kid was catching, and then of course he's
hitting all the home runs. But the story was also
how he got into the next round.
Speaker 8 (31:40):
Cal Rowley advanced because of this Timeebreaker zero point ninety
six inches longest home run over Brent Rooker, they were
tied with seventeen homers. And because of our friends at
Statcast who do a marvelous, marvelous job, we know that
the difference of less than one inch separated cal Rally
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from Brent Rooker to make it to the semi finals.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
Unbelievable that you think that it was that short of
a distance for him to advance, and it was again
analytics stack Cast being able to tell you the exact
distance for you to advance after you had tied.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
Man, I don't even understand now all of the things that.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
Are happening in baseball.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
What do you think about now being able to say, hey,
challenge that like a challenge call.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
Yeah, that's ridiculous. I just don't even I don't even
like that.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
You can tap your head on that on the home
plate and say let's get this going. But right now
I want you to hear about the victory and how
he wanted.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
No will not get out.
Speaker 9 (32:51):
The Dominican dominance comes to an end.
Speaker 8 (32:54):
The big Dumper is your home run derby champion.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
For twenty twenty five and all the Dumpy's celebrate.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
How about the job that his younger brother and his
dad jack fantastic?
Speaker 3 (33:10):
I love it? Are you kidding me?
Speaker 9 (33:13):
Well?
Speaker 1 (33:13):
The best part is the dumpies. I'm like, how is
that even part of the conversation? Why would you even
call that? Because that's his nickname. That'd be perfect for wrestling.
The big dumper is that that's his nickname, Kyl cal Riley.
And check this out. You're at home run Derby. The
object is to hit home runs, but someone decides I'm
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gonna try to be a superstar and get on Sports
Center's top ten play.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
But they made it a not top ten.
Speaker 10 (33:42):
Oh no, crazy, no freaking way, no way, how are
you doing?
Speaker 7 (33:51):
Look at the kid on the bottom.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
Dude tried to hit on Robb the dude of a
home run. They credited him with the home run.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
But there was a kid in the outfield shagging that
climbed the wall to make the play to stop a
home run last night. Oh my god, in any other situation,
you're getting thrown out, any other situation, you're getting out
of there. You throw him out, No, you throw him out.
He knows you do not go on the track. You
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don't go on the warning track and try to climb.
Speaker 3 (34:22):
The wall to make yourself a sports center top ten.
Now you're not. Sometimes so you think the.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
Kid did that intentionally to try to get on sports
I think that he was being a kid again.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
You know the rules when you walk in there, just
like you tried to walk up here without your credential.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
What they tell.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
You, Hey, man, let me putting my business in the street.
You tried to walk on and what was part one?
It was called the Hall of Pain the wrestlers almost
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speaking of that since we are in Atlanta, the pop
that you got, a lot of people keep talking about it.
Thank you for having inviting me to dinner last night
with one of your homies, and I had a great,
great time talking to him.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
He was very very in this miller of the cat.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
The cat was very enlightening and just a genuinely good dude.
But you were kind of in shock with the response
that people gave.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
I wish I would have got that reaction when I
was Champ.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
Well, well, it's amazing what happens when you leave the business,
how people appreciate your wyeh, that's awesome, man, I sat
there in my glory right that Sunday night, you know,
I went to the Evolution pay per view. I had
three of the women that I found and they were
all performing and they wanted me there, so like the
(35:56):
ww brought me there and put me in the front
row and I got to watch those ladies show out
and when one of them j yeah, yes, and Bianca
and Samantha Irvan. But man, it was humbling just to
look around and the people want Cody. I came to
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the back and Cody said, god right, he said, man,
like they still love you, And I said, yeah, man,
I felt it.
Speaker 3 (36:26):
I know we talked about a little bit yesterday.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
But Vicky Guerrero, I mean, I know that's her her gimmick,
loves how I used that you and the wrestling lingo,
I needn't stop talking. I knew that was her gimmick.
But the reality of it was was that was loud.
It was loud to that ruined your pop. Not really,
you didn't.
Speaker 3 (36:48):
Take away from it. Shows the difference in the pop.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
Yeah, no doubt that. The pop in the heat. So
that's good stuff right there. But yes, Atlanta has been
fun so far. We've seen a lot of good people. Obviously,
I've seen Auburn players walking around here up here to
talk to their people, so we will end up seeing
a lot of folks as we move forward with this
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entire thing. But the one thing that I always wanted
to talk about during this home run derby in the
All Star Game, which we'll get into to end the
show today, you start to look at this city. The
mecca of Atlanta last year was in Dallas. So All
Star Game was in Dallas. It seemed to be a
lot more people, a lot more energy, and I think
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a lot of that had to do with Texas and
Oklahoma coming into the conference, new meat on it. Now
we're back in the South. Now we're here where it
all began. Where SEC just means more. It's a true,
true conversation and a true movement. Because I'm looking around
here with this digital road that we're on. There's people
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everywhere and I hadn't even made it all the way
around to the other side yet. So interesting times in
the SEC, Greg sank and as we talked about, a
lot more people are getting ready to get started. Our
number one is in the books, Our number two is
just around the corner. We'll have some NFL Talk, and
of course we have Tony Barnhart mister SEC. We got
(38:19):
Paul martin SEC any given Sunday, and we'll close out
the show giving away some tickets right here on the
morning kickoff on sports Radio AM thirteen hundred The Zone.
Welcome back to our number two of the morning kickoff
right here on Sports Radio AM thirteen hundred The Zone.
In our number one, we talked to SEC Media Day
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since we here we are here in Atlanta for SEC
Media Days. We also talked about Lane Kiffen and Diego
Pavia talking about the SEC Lane, giving love to coach
Sark and coach Smart. We had Joe Cook of Inside
Texas breaking it down like no other, and of course
we talked home run Derby. But right now we want
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to get into the NFL. Coming up at eight seventeen,
we have Tony Barnhart mister SEC talking all things SEC,
the story of the SEC and everything else that goes
along with it. But right now we want to get
into the NFL. The NFL is a place where a
lot of folks catch heat, a lot of folks get love,
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but most importantly, it's an opportunity for you to play
at the next level and do some amazing, amazing things.
Speaker 3 (39:32):
But right now I want you to hear from Dan Orlowski.
Speaker 1 (39:35):
There was a conversation that was had and ESPN put
out a ranking.
Speaker 3 (39:39):
That did not have CJ.
Speaker 1 (39:40):
Stroud in the top ten, and dan Orlowski could say
he was not very happy about it.
Speaker 3 (39:48):
We're coming to you, Dan.
Speaker 11 (39:49):
Biggest issue with this list, My biggest issue with the
list two one CJ. Stroud not being on the list.
I think silly, dumb, idiotic. The people that said, after
c J. Stroud's rookie year, best rookie season we've ever had.
And in that year of twenty twenty three, he was
like forty one hundred yards, twenty three touchdowns, five interceptions,
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like sixty three percent completion percenter, So numbers wise, pretty
darn good. Last year with fotom five offensive line, he
lost his number one, number two and number three three
receiver for significant stretches, sixty three percent completion percenter of
thirty eight hundred yards and I think he had twenty
touchdowns now twelve interceptions interceptions went up, so disaster all
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around him, by the way, offense coordinator, offensive coordinator never evolved,
Disaster around him and puts them somewhat similar performance wise.
So the guy that people were saying, like, hey, he's
the next Joe Burrow top five player, all of a
sudden is out of the top ten. That for me
is probably the biggest gripe we can make the conversation
Jalen hurts higher than a.
Speaker 3 (40:50):
Justin Herbert, but C. J.
Speaker 11 (40:51):
Stroud not being in there as big as issue.
Speaker 1 (40:54):
Yeah, I'm with that, man. I mean we talked about
as Justin Herbert Dunne that man. I've been punching Justin
Herbert in the face every time they say something about
him because.
Speaker 2 (41:04):
Of that list. But if you're going to remove anybody,
you take Herbert out and you put Stroud in. If
he's not in that spot and he's eighth, right, then
put him in there. That was a bocus list. That's
somebody that's a beauty contest. Well, if somebody that's got
the warm fuzzies for.
Speaker 1 (41:23):
Herbert, well, I'm telling you right now, it's the fact
of the matter, that is, it's always been like that.
Every time you start to think about what Justin Herbert
is and who he is and how the conversation's always
wrapped around him, I've said it he has. He's the
one that has not achieved anything. He hadn't put himself
in a spot to where the excitement will always be around.
(41:45):
And so we always try to talk about the fact
that things are always looking a certain way. So in
that instance, you start to understand that this is not
what it's supposed to be. Like I've said it before
and I'm gonna say it again, and chill, Justin Herbert
actually shows me that he can win games. Because let's
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put it like this, people beat up Dak Prescott at
every opportunity that they possibly can. And everybody knows I
defend Dak, that's my dude. But the reality of it
is Justin Herbert that deserves all the smoke that Dak
Prescott gets until you give me that.
Speaker 3 (42:24):
I don't want to hear your your dark comments.
Speaker 2 (42:26):
But if Dak it was not performing, you would be
the first one to say, well, you know what, I
like him, but he ain't performing.
Speaker 3 (42:33):
Yes, I would, I would, and I've done that for
a lot of people. I Mean, you sit back and
you think about it. It's like you got to do
some things differently.
Speaker 1 (42:40):
And so every time I get a chance to see that,
I always say man, this.
Speaker 3 (42:44):
Is kind of.
Speaker 1 (42:48):
They didn't talk to the people that worked there know
what the hell is going on exactly. Also, but I
will give ESPN some love and the NFL some love
for this because our guy, Garrett Wilson from Lake Travis,
one of the coldest who ever come out of there,
one of the coldest athletes period, has agreed to a
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four year, one hundred and thirty million dollar contract extension.
Wilson was the twenty twenty one Rookie of the Year,
had one hundred and one receptions with fourteen hundred yards
and seven touchdowns during last year's campaign. The one story
that I found pretty interesting about Garrett Wilson is the
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number of quarterbacks. By the way, ninety million dollars of
that money of his one thirty is fully guaranteed.
Speaker 3 (43:41):
You can't beat that. You can't beat that.
Speaker 1 (43:43):
So if you look at who Garrett Wilson has caught
passes from, it.
Speaker 3 (43:48):
Is a unique list. It is a very very.
Speaker 1 (43:53):
Quarterbacks exactly, and you start to think, Okay, Aaron Rodgers,
Zach Wilson, Tim Boyle, Server, I don't even know if
that's that dude Stevers or whatever his name was.
Speaker 3 (44:10):
Stevers.
Speaker 1 (44:10):
Yeah, he caught passes from eight different quarterbacks.
Speaker 3 (44:15):
Wow, he'sn't been in the league for three years. Mark,
he was Rookie of the.
Speaker 1 (44:20):
Year in twenty twenty one, and he's caught passes from
like twelve different quarterbacks in that short period of time.
So it is it is really unbelievable when you sit
back and you think about how this is all developed
and the fact that they decided to give him the
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money that he wanted.
Speaker 2 (44:42):
Well, they want to give him that money because they
don't want him to get this enchanted and say, hey
trade me, bro y'all not you bringing all these quarterbacks
in and nobody's being able to step up.
Speaker 3 (44:53):
Let me out of here. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (44:55):
I think that the way that he goes about it
has been one of those things to us like, come on, man,
this is utterly ridiculous. But he found a way to
get his money, and I'm I'm excited to see what
he has, what he has in store for what's moving
next for him, even though I don't even know who
their quarterback is for the New York Jets this year.
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Oh this is gonna be then that might work because
they were teammates. They were teammates at Ohio State, So
this might be a good thing for him and he'll
get a chance to make some moves. So we'll see
what happens. But also we wanted to bring up Andrew mccouba.
He was getting love some one of his former teammates
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who was here at SEC Media Days. He played with
him at at Clemson, and he was talking about how
mccuba is one of the best players that he's ever
played with and he's gonna fit in good with the
Philadelphia Eagles.
Speaker 6 (45:55):
I want to take you back to your time at
Clemson when you were teammates with Andrew mccuba.
Speaker 5 (45:59):
What was it like watching him get drafted and what
can you tell us about him and y'alls relationship?
Speaker 3 (46:03):
That was awesome. Cools, my guy. I'm very proud of
him and him going to the Eagle. That's gonna fit
him out.
Speaker 1 (46:08):
He plays for sure, so he's a man, tough guy,
flies around, ready to hit somebody.
Speaker 3 (46:14):
Man. That's that Eagle defense. He's gonna fit in for
sure over there.
Speaker 1 (46:18):
I'm a big, big fan of Andrew mccoob. But since
day one, he's got a very close relationship with my
cousin and he's been he's been telling me about him
for quite some time, and then when I saw him
at Clemson.
Speaker 3 (46:31):
Well, I saw him at LBJ and you saw the
talent there.
Speaker 1 (46:34):
But then you saw him go to Clemson and then
come back to the University of Texas being on being
back at home handling his business, and he's one of
those guys. When you see him, you're like, this dude
plays safety. Now he's in the NFL, You're like, this
dude plays safety. But then you see him go out
there and pop somebody and you realize, yeah, he's that guy.
Speaker 2 (46:54):
Everybody talks about his ability to hit people and the
fact that he can make tackles. The reason that he's
able to do that is because of his intellect. He's
a coach on the field, like they let's talk more
about his intelligence in his football IQ. This is a
guy that he sees the play developed before it gets there.
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And these guys are blind, they're just walking in the
dark and he's got a flashlight and there's nothing that
they can do about it. So when you see mccooba
make a move, it's because he's already three steps ahead
and he's got steam build up, so like it's gonna
be good. For well, it's not gonna be good for
us cowboy fans because he'll be able to diagnose and
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see what's going on.
Speaker 3 (47:37):
Yeah, hopefully they don't let him play that much.
Speaker 1 (47:40):
Yeah whatever, yea, hopefully doesn't get whatever play that much
during that time. But as always, you know, you start
to look at the NFL and what's going on within
the moves and the shaking, and like I said before,
the NFL is about to start training camp.
Speaker 3 (47:55):
We're here at SEC.
Speaker 1 (47:57):
Media Days because of football season being ready around the corner.
But you start to look at some of these these
moves that are being made across the NFL and across
college football. Times are changing, Times are changing in the league,
times are changing across the area. But now you start
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to understand that, hey man, there's some talent talented players
at this level, but there's even more talented players at
the top level.
Speaker 3 (48:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (48:27):
I mean, you see young players come in. You don't
expect them all to go straight to the top, but
you know, you see players like Macouba, who is a
young player, but he can rise on the depth chart
real fast because he can accentuate everybody else's abilities. Yeah,
you know, so I always love seeing smart people.
Speaker 1 (48:49):
I do wanted to point out that the NFL came
out with this top one hundred players. We'll talk a
little bit more about that later in the week after
SEC Media days or all done, because we want to
focus on that. But you look at what is going
on with the NFL. Dak Prescott number seventy nine in
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the top one hundred, and that was because of what
happened to him last year. He fell out of grace
because of the fact that he got hurt. Now he'll
get an opportunity to play. He looks like he's in
the best shape of his life and now moving forward
he'll get a chance to move up, and I guarantee
you by the end of the season, he'll be a
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top twenty five player, not top twenty five.
Speaker 2 (49:36):
You know, he reads the press, clippers and he sees
where he is. He's not going to stand for that.
Speaker 1 (49:41):
The motivation is there as always. I'm motivated as well.
Coming up next, we're supposed to have Tony Barnhart coming
over here, mister SEC. If he's not here, we'll continue
the conversations. We'll get Cam involved if we need to.
Right here on the morning kick off on Sports Radio
AM thirteen The Zone. It doesn't happen a lot, but
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as you continue to work in this business, you get
the opportunity to work with some really, really awesome people,
some people that you can consider idols, and right now
here is one of mine. I'm so excited to be
joined right now on the morning kickoff on sports Radio
AM thirteen hundred The Zone with Tony Barnhardt, mister college Football.
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And let me just say, first off, thank you very
much for joining us this morning. I know you're a busy,
busy man, but I'm a little sad. I'm a little
sad this is gonna be your last run this season.
You're gonna walk away from the business for a while.
You've done it for so long. It's time, Huh, it's time.
This is my fiftieth year I'm doing this. Graduated from
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the University of Georgia on June tenth, nineteen seventy six,
went to work the very next day at my first
newspaper job, and been working ever since. And this will
be fiftieth.
Speaker 12 (51:02):
And I told I told my mom, who's ninety two,
and I said, Mom, this is what I'm gonna do.
Speaker 3 (51:06):
And she said fifty She said, son, that's a nice
round under.
Speaker 12 (51:11):
So we had my wife and I had been talking
about for several years now, but how in this you
guys know this, in this business, in the media business,
you don't. You don't usually get to write your own
script exactly go. And that was very important to me,
and it's been I definitely wanted to get the first
year of the playoff in but uh, after the season,
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we finally decided that this would be my last one
and we're gonna take a little my wife. My wife's
calling it a fair farewell tour, and I said, no, sweetheart,
I'm not dying. Okay, let's just let's just call it
a thank you to her, a celebration to her. But
I'm going to go get to as many campuses as
I can during the season, and we're turning this last
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season into a book.
Speaker 3 (51:54):
Oh nice, wow. Yeah.
Speaker 12 (51:55):
I have a great relationship with UGA University of Georgia Press.
They probably my last book, and uh, when I told
them what I was gonna do, they said, we're in
and so we'll I'll gather stuff during the year and
when the season's over, I will jump in with both
feet and get that book done. And we should have
it out hopefully in the fall of twenty twenty six.
Speaker 2 (52:17):
So, with all this time going that you're gonna have
on your hands, what's the first thing you're gonna do
to kind of relax and be able to say, you know,
I'm just gonna I'm just gonna enjoy life.
Speaker 12 (52:27):
I'm going to spoil my grandchildren even more than they're
spoiled right now. Okay, I haven't done a sufficient job
in spoiling and so that's uh, now, that's one of
the things we're gonna do. We got we got Missus
Barnhart's got plans for me. Of course we're honey to do.
We're going We're going on the Disney cruise next March,
and then twenty twenty seven will be number fifty for
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me and Missus Barnhart.
Speaker 3 (52:53):
Oh wow.
Speaker 12 (52:53):
And so we're going to take a Viking river cruise
down the Rhine. So we're she's she's got big plans
for me. After being married to a sports writer fifty years,
you've missed. The honeydew list is long and extensive.
Speaker 1 (53:07):
It's funny that you say that, because again, fifty another
big round number. Yes, your mother would say, So that's
that's awesome to hear. I wanted to ask you this too,
because you've obviously seen the evolution of college football. You've
seen the changes and the different conference realignments and different
teams coming in and moving around. What has been the
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biggest I guess you would say surprise that you have
seen with the way things are done, or disappointment that
you've seen with the way to disappoint mean.
Speaker 12 (53:41):
Well, the what I have enjoyed is watching this conference grow,
but not not going all big ten on you. Okay,
where you've got Oregon and Washington in your league and
as Commissioner Sankie would say, yeah, we got sixteen teams,
but they're in eleven contiguous states. Now contiguous is one
of those fancy where that means they all connected together, okay, like,
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and so that's it's been to bring Texas and Oklahoma
and just I mean, you think about the games that
we're going to get to see now, uh, and the
fact that arch Manning is in this league. I'm fascinated
to watch that because I'm so old. I saw his
grandfather play in Sanford Stadium in nineteen seventy and so
it has been has been a joy to watch and
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it's gonna be more and more. We're still at least
two years out of being where we want to be
all the on the NIL and transfer portal and all
that we're not. We're not there yet, but hopefully we're
headed in the right direct.
Speaker 1 (54:37):
So where are you staying on that? On the NIL
and the portal? A lot of people are not happy
with it, and a lot of people are forward.
Speaker 3 (54:47):
Where are you on these? Well?
Speaker 12 (54:48):
I want to make sure the players get what the
players are supposed to get. That's all. That's always been
my issues. So what we have to do is there
are a couple of things I think have got to
happen to get You know, they got the settlement case
and the players are getting paid the twenty million, and
that's all well and good, but until you figure out
what to do from a from a legal standpoint, from
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from anti an anti trust standpoint, every time you make
a ruling that somebody disagrees with, if they're going to
take you to court, and you're probably going to lose.
So I still think we've got some work to do there.
The NIL is, the NIL is not going away. As
long as I want you to come to my car
dealership and sign pictures and take photographs for two hours
and I'll pay you a couple of thousand bucks. I
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should be able to do that, Okay, you should be
able to receive the money. And so again we've made progress,
but we still got.
Speaker 3 (55:37):
A long way to go.
Speaker 13 (55:38):
Where are you on The going rate for a quarterback
is A yeah, unless you're the kid from Tennessee when
you actually negotiate it down instead of up.
Speaker 12 (55:49):
But that's a that's the whole story, right, wells, I'm
a free market guy. I think as I think a
player's worth whether anybody is willing to pay him correct.
And what you want to do, though, is you do
want to have some sort of structure so that you've
got some idea what your cost is for I think
the players, the players in a situation where they're gonna
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have to learn they're gonna have to put together an
organization collectively bargaining bargaining, because what they're doing now, they're saying, well,
we're gonna review your nil deal to make sure that
it's legal and to make sure that it's market value.
And if I'm the player on my player's lawyer, I'm
gonna say, wait a minute, he didn't negotiate. He didn't
give you the rights to determine what he should be receiving. Okay,
(56:31):
so it's it's Nick Saban said the most poignan thing.
I went to see him about a month ago in
his office in Tuscaloosa. He said, look, Tony, first of all,
everybody has to understand it's never going back to the
way it used to be. That's not going to happen.
We've changed forever. But what we're doing now is not sustainable. Okay,
(56:53):
there's got to be more structure. So you've got to
come up with some kind And he said, there's a
wheat spot in the middle there and the adults in
the room and got to find it.
Speaker 3 (57:04):
So it's taking the adults. What's that if it's negotiated.
Speaker 12 (57:10):
Yes, salary cap works in the NFL because the players
union has negotiated what the cap will be. And as
long as the players get to negotiate what they're gonna
be what the salaries are. That I'm okay with it
with a cap because if you don't have a cap,
then you don't know what your salary structure is.
Speaker 3 (57:30):
Right, So yeah, it's still going to be out of control.
Speaker 1 (57:33):
We're talking to mister college football, Tony Barnhardt, he is
fly walking away from the game, but he's still gonna
be around it.
Speaker 3 (57:43):
There's no way you're gonna leave this game.
Speaker 6 (57:45):
I'm not.
Speaker 12 (57:46):
I just I'm just walking away from the daily grind.
Doing this for the last fifty years.
Speaker 2 (57:50):
Man, I can't believe I got Craig Way on one side.
Speaker 3 (57:53):
And yeah, so let me ask you this, because.
Speaker 1 (57:57):
As you look at college football, and I know that
there's some highs and some lows, what are one of
your biggest high points that you have seen throughout your
career in one of the biggest low points?
Speaker 12 (58:10):
Well, I think anytime that you have trouble from an
NCAA standpoint, that's that's an issue. Okay, that's and frankly
I've lost all confidence in the NCAA. Okay, so that's there.
But I always tell people that said, what's your greatest
memory of that? And my greatest memory is December second,
(58:32):
nineteen eighty nine, the day that Alabama went.
Speaker 3 (58:36):
To Auburn for the first time in history.
Speaker 12 (58:39):
Bear Bryant says once said, as long as I'm alive,
Alabama will never play at Auburn.
Speaker 3 (58:45):
Well.
Speaker 12 (58:46):
He died in nineteen eighty three, and by nineteen eighty
nine they played that game and it was the most
emotional day ever that I've been a part of. Not
only did Auburn win the game, but they knocked Alabama.
I shot shot out of a shot to win the
national championship. If you're an Auburn fan, it didn't get
any better. And the other ones get to see the
(59:07):
great player, herschel Walker, best football player I ever saw.
Speaker 1 (59:10):
Yeah, you've you've said that on many well that I
had to pick one exactly, but I'm telling you herschel Walker,
particularly as a freshman, was the best football player.
Speaker 12 (59:23):
I always tell people when it comes to running backs
in the SEC, it is Herschel and Bow and then
everybody else.
Speaker 3 (59:29):
Okay, I love it. I love it.
Speaker 1 (59:31):
It's great, and I appreciate the fact that we got
the opportunity to talk to you. It has been one
of my bucket list types of deals. And I appreciate
the fact that we finally get a chance to have
a conversation with you. And best of luck to you
and the missus as y'all go on this journey.
Speaker 3 (59:45):
Well, thank you, Mike, I appreciate that, no problem, thank you,
all right, But there is Tony Barnhardt.
Speaker 1 (59:51):
He's making his farewell tour as he wants to say it,
and he's got a book coming out as well, so
you got to make sure you check that out. Right
here on the morning kickoff from Sports Media, I mean
from SEC Media.
Speaker 3 (01:00:02):
Days, right here in Atlanta, Georgia. We'll be right back.
Speaker 1 (01:00:06):
We talk about having a day at SEC Media Days.
You go from Tony Barnhard, mister college Football, to now
we get a chance to talk to Paul Martin, the
award winning executive director behind Netflix Formula One Drive to
Survive Full Swing, which my guy Cam is all about
(01:00:27):
in Breakpoint. And now, since we're talking college football, what
better way than a brand new SEC DOCU series called
Any Given Saturday.
Speaker 3 (01:00:38):
I mean, if you're a football fan, you gotta get
behind this project, don't you. I hope, So, I hope. So,
I mean, listen, you never know.
Speaker 10 (01:00:48):
I mean, you know, we make these shows and you
kind of throw them out there, and listen, you can
tell from my accent this kind of world is not
my natural kind of habitat.
Speaker 3 (01:00:59):
It's not football. It's not football.
Speaker 10 (01:01:00):
Yeah, but it's been fantastic, you know, and that you
know I'm really proud of the show that we've delivered,
and some folks got to see some previews of it
last night.
Speaker 3 (01:01:09):
I think the trailer dropped yesterday and this in touch.
Speaker 10 (01:01:12):
With the response has been has been really good so far,
and you know, we want people to you know this,
this show is always about trying to be additive to
the SEC, to the schools, to the programs, to the
athletes and take the audience on the inside of you know,
these amazing you know, institutions and teams and sports.
Speaker 3 (01:01:30):
So hopefully that that will be the case.
Speaker 2 (01:01:32):
Well, part of did y'all get into like one hundred
and fifty year history of it at the beginning, I mean.
Speaker 3 (01:01:39):
Touch on it a little bit.
Speaker 10 (01:01:40):
I think it's you know, I think we you know,
a big part of it is that obviously the tradition
and the pageantry of these schools, So you know, we
touch on a little bit of the kind of the
history of the SEC, but it's really focused on, you know,
getting under the skin of last year and with the
teams that kind of participate, so not too much kind
(01:02:02):
of looking back and really just more sort of character driven.
Speaker 4 (01:02:06):
F one tennis golf completely different than American football, especially
college football and as a big sports fan, but from
across the Pine, did you have any preconceived notions of
what American football was like and did working on this
project change your opinion of college football.
Speaker 10 (01:02:23):
I mean, I've been I've been a foot your football
fan for a long time.
Speaker 3 (01:02:29):
But the NFL I was.
Speaker 10 (01:02:31):
I grew up and when NFL first came to the UK,
it was around about kind of nineteen eighty six. So
you tend to get a lot of people kind of
my age that are Chicago Bears fans because of the eighty
six Bears, or Miami Dolphins fans because of Dan Marino.
I was a Miami Dolphins fan. I'm still a Miami
Dolphins fan, and I was I was huge, into huge,
(01:02:51):
into the NFL. But college college sport, and particularly college
football just always kind of passed me by slightly. I'd
never really sort of got my head around there. I
lived in the States about ten years ago and just
never really engaged in college and I love sport, I
love all sports, but it was just one of those
that I just never really connected with.
Speaker 2 (01:03:13):
So if you didn't grow up in a region, college
football is very regional.
Speaker 3 (01:03:16):
Yeah, you have Texas football you.
Speaker 2 (01:03:18):
Have Alabama football, you have California and Florida and so on,
and a lot of those, you know, regions they.
Speaker 3 (01:03:25):
Specify on one area.
Speaker 2 (01:03:28):
So there's probably just in Texas you have the Golden Triangle,
you have Houston, you have Dallas, you have the Valley,
and then you have West Texas. Like there's so many
different ones. So I mean, how would you be able
to integrate yourself into something that's so complicated?
Speaker 10 (01:03:48):
And I think that's what That's what I realized as
we got into it, exactly what you're saying. Just these
these institutions are bigger than just schools.
Speaker 3 (01:03:57):
They're so representative of the communities.
Speaker 10 (01:03:59):
I think is a line in the first episode I
think I think it's Brian Kelly that says that He's like,
you know, you go to these towns where there's supposed
to be thirty thousand people living, and ninety thousand people
turn up to watch the game.
Speaker 3 (01:04:12):
You know, it's wild.
Speaker 10 (01:04:14):
And I had no sense of that, you know, because
I hadn't grown up with it.
Speaker 3 (01:04:18):
I didn't come.
Speaker 10 (01:04:18):
From those communities, and so you know, it's been an
incredible education for me and you know, and and been
great to really dive into and really start to understand
what what what college football means to people and why.
Speaker 3 (01:04:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:04:34):
Yeah, it's unique too because of the fact that what
you said, we're talking to Paul Martin Award winning executive
producer Paul Martin parl of Martin. But I wanted to
ask you this because of the fact that how things
are getting in shape, You've learned a lot about football.
What was something that you saw that you were like,
(01:04:54):
I wish I would have known a little bit more
about that before we started this project.
Speaker 10 (01:05:00):
That's I mean, you know, I think we obviously when
we've we've come in to make this show, the whole
of college football's in a state of flux. And and
I think it was it was all at one stage
it felt like it was it was changing on a
daily basis, you know.
Speaker 3 (01:05:17):
And I think that you know, in hindsight.
Speaker 10 (01:05:20):
Probably more an understanding of what was really going on
there and the challenges we were going to face making
that show, because it's you know, it's it's like the
wild West out there in some ways, you know, with
with kind of ni a and and again, my my
understanding of it of what it was what it is
now is you know, it's very, very base level.
Speaker 3 (01:05:40):
But you know what's.
Speaker 10 (01:05:41):
Clear is that the fundamentals of college football are changing
on a, like I said, on a daily, weekly, monthly basis,
and I think everyone's wrestling with how to you know,
how to adapt.
Speaker 2 (01:05:55):
It is not as prevalent now because they're going away
from it. But a lot of the teams had mascots,
like the Houston Cougars had a real cougar and and
the Panthers had a real panther and and Happy Valley
and dogs and Bevo at University of Texas, Like, did
y'all touch on that? Like the that was the thing
(01:06:18):
about college football that I always loved as a little kid.
Speaker 10 (01:06:21):
I mean it's I think the first school that that
we went to the campus of was LSU. And you know,
they're taking us on the tour and showing us, you know,
just I mean again, mind blowing stadium facilities. You know,
the facilities, they are incredible. And then at some point
someone's like, you know, oh, do you want to you know,
do you want to go see the tiger? And I'm thinking, Okay,
(01:06:43):
it must just be a statue of a tiger.
Speaker 3 (01:06:47):
It's a real tiger. It's a real Tiger in the
middle of campus.
Speaker 4 (01:06:50):
Yeah, we've seen sports documentaries kind of evolve. I think
back to thirty for thirty or eight two thousands that
kind of really at people in the sports stocks and
then f one drathers to five really kind of right
about this new era of sports stocks, reality sports stocks, Right,
everyone's kind of bald to all these new production companies.
(01:07:13):
What do you see being the next step and evolution
of how sports is covered in terms of documentaries reality TV,
especially now with the influx of social media.
Speaker 10 (01:07:22):
Yeah, I think, you know, I think the landscape from
from when we first make Driants to Survivor has changed
in our world. You know, I think that those type
of you know, the fall behind the scenes access stocks,
I think, you know, I think it maybe peaked a
little bit, and I think people are looking at different iterations,
and I think, you know, everyone's kind of wrapping their
wrapping their arms around live at the moment because you know,
(01:07:45):
you can't you can't argue with live sport. You know, people,
it's appointment viewing. If there's a big game, you're gonna
go and you're gonna watch it. So I think there's
I think probably there's there's as technology kind of evolves
as well, I think there'll be you know, documentary and live,
which is much and and documentary will bleed into live
(01:08:06):
and live will lead kind of documentary.
Speaker 3 (01:08:09):
So I think I think you'll see some iteration of that.
Speaker 4 (01:08:13):
Is you're of a project of mine, you would do that, Paul.
Speaker 1 (01:08:21):
We want to thank you for taking the time today.
I know you're making your rounds. Uh this I can't
wait to see this because there's somebody that loves docuseries
and loves being a part.
Speaker 3 (01:08:31):
Of college football.
Speaker 1 (01:08:32):
I can't wait till for you to take us behind
the scenes and let us see exactly how this all
plays out. It's gonna be awesome. Thank you so much.
And I'm glad you got to see Mike the Tiger.
They're all live and the living color.
Speaker 3 (01:08:44):
We gotta get you to Austin so you can see Bevo. Doubt,
no doubt. Uh.
Speaker 1 (01:08:48):
When we come back, we'll close out the show and
send you to Dan Patrick MLB All Star Game.
Speaker 3 (01:08:53):
It's about to go down, but we're here.
Speaker 1 (01:08:55):
For SEC Media Days and we're gonna talk all about
it right here on the morning kickoff on Radio AM
thirteen hundred The Zone.
Speaker 3 (01:09:03):
Man, what a show that we have had no Day
two of SEC Media Days.
Speaker 1 (01:09:08):
Make sure you tune in this afternoon for the craig
Way Show Craig Way from two to five with Cam Parker.
I'll be around as well. I want to thank Joe
Cook of Inside Texas. I want to thank mister college
football Tony Barnhardt, who is taking his farewell tour as
he moves on after fifty years in the business after
(01:09:31):
this season. And of course we want to thank Paul
Martin of SEC's new docu.
Speaker 3 (01:09:37):
Series Any given Saturday.
Speaker 1 (01:09:40):
It takes a look at all of the SEC bus rides, animals,
all kinds of different things, outstanding.
Speaker 3 (01:09:50):
Outstanding stuff.
Speaker 1 (01:09:51):
And if you missed any part of the show, all
you got to do is get over to our podcast
page and of course always check it out on the
Allways Free iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 3 (01:10:04):
I want to give away some tickets.
Speaker 1 (01:10:05):
We've been talking about it and now's the time for
us to do so. Need to give away some tickets
to go see Judas Priest Alright, you know you love
Judas Priests and Alice Cooper as they get ready to
come to the Germania Amphitheater.
Speaker 3 (01:10:24):
It is something that.
Speaker 1 (01:10:25):
As you think about music right, And I know Craig
is one of those guys that truly enjoys those types
of shows with Alice Cooper and being able to see
those types of bands because he used to sell T
shirts for those that didn't know he used to sell
T shirts for a.
Speaker 3 (01:10:46):
Lot of folks during that time. Hop on, mister Craig,
let me let me just say this.
Speaker 9 (01:10:51):
I want to I heard you, guys, and fortunately it's
become a nice promo for the station as well. When
Mark was talking about biting off the bat's head and
he mistook it being Alice Cooper four for Ozzy Osbourne,
who just did his final show last week by the
way in England, I will tell you this, I think
(01:11:13):
what Mark was thinking about.
Speaker 3 (01:11:16):
And Alice Cooper used to routinely do this.
Speaker 9 (01:11:18):
My brother went to see Alice Cooper in the early
seventies and they had all kinds of wild stuff they
would do during show and have live animals on stage
and you know, the pigeons and pigs and rabbits and stuff.
They did all kinds of weird stuff. But one part
of his act was he used to or somebody used
(01:11:40):
to pass around like a big pan and they would
allow people in the concert to spit into the pan,
and then the pan makes it way upstage, and then
Alice Cooper would drink the pan.
Speaker 3 (01:11:52):
That's what I think you were thinking about. Mark.
Speaker 1 (01:11:57):
I'm so completely grossed out. Oh my goodness, now we
know better. When that pen got backstage, it got set
aside and a regular pan of water got set up
to Alice to drink it.
Speaker 3 (01:12:10):
Oh thank god. Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, there's no way
you did that, you know, even in.
Speaker 9 (01:12:14):
There COVID and all that stuff.
Speaker 3 (01:12:19):
This was in the early seventies.
Speaker 9 (01:12:20):
But uh, you know, the thing about Alice Cooper is
great golfer.
Speaker 3 (01:12:25):
Do you know that.
Speaker 9 (01:12:27):
Spokesman for Callaway for a long time. Oh my good
outstanding golfer, big time businessman as well. So uh but yeah,
you put Judas priests in Alex You got all that.
Speaker 3 (01:12:40):
That's the only Judish priest song I think I could name.
Speaker 9 (01:12:43):
You could probably another thing coming, uh Living after Midnight,
The Living After?
Speaker 3 (01:12:51):
Okay, yeah, I would have to hear the song before.
Speaker 9 (01:12:56):
Well we one time you were talking about my concert,
teacher Vindig, he's one time it worked to show with
Judas Priest, Iron Maiden and the Scorpions all on one
bill a Scorpions.
Speaker 1 (01:13:07):
That's done, Coach Steve Alston, Yeah, man, he loved that.
Speaker 3 (01:13:12):
So that's what I was thinking.
Speaker 9 (01:13:13):
I was thinking, well, maybe Mark's thinking of Alice Cooper
passing around the pan for everybody to spit in concerts
and then he.
Speaker 3 (01:13:20):
Drank the pan on safe.
Speaker 9 (01:13:21):
You know that was swapped out by the time it
made because.
Speaker 3 (01:13:25):
I don't understand how you could be because you couldn't
even kill him. Yeah, his immunity be out the door exactly.
Speaker 1 (01:13:33):
Well, we're gonna give you a chance to win a
pair of tickets to go see Alice Cooper or Judas
Priest right now, October to twenty fifth Germania Insurance Amphitheater.
All you have to do is get over to the
iHeartRadio app, tap that red microphone and leave the keyword
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the day for you to get a chance to win
a pair of tickets.
Speaker 3 (01:13:54):
Craig, what you got going on the show today?
Speaker 9 (01:13:56):
We're gonna visit with the coach a right every year
I have an opportunity to visit with Sarkt at the
SEC media days before that big twelve Media Day, so
I'll have a one on one with him. Obviously it's
going to be a derby and craziness with arch and
and and even with taff and and and Anthony Hill
(01:14:19):
and Anthony Hill h. But we'll endeavor to hear from
those guys. Sarks news conference itself, the general Session, we'll
plan to bring that to folks if it works out live,
will do a live or we'll do it just right
after after it airs. So so, yeah, this is Texas Day,
so we plan to be steeped in it. Yeah, of
course of the day, and we'll hear from others too.
(01:14:40):
We'll hear from Kirby Smart today since it's Georgia's day
as well.
Speaker 1 (01:14:43):
Yeah, it's an exciting time here at SEC Media Days.
We are in Atlanta, Georgia, Craig Wayshell two to five today.
You heard the list, you heard the rundown, exciting, exciting times.
Speaker 3 (01:14:54):
Tomorrow we're gonna try to.
Speaker 1 (01:14:56):
Get our guy, Billy Lucci of Text Eggs.
Speaker 3 (01:14:59):
Why do you keep moving closer to me?
Speaker 1 (01:15:01):
Man?
Speaker 14 (01:15:02):
Because the cameras no, no, no, cragded this is this
is something that I have had a tough time with
the spacing. Every time I get real close to this
comfort there, not that he's not comfort in his own masculinity.
Speaker 1 (01:15:22):
He thinks that he thinks that I'm going to grab
him because a couple of times like put my hands
on him and he's like.
Speaker 9 (01:15:29):
Man, hands shift to do bodily harm exactly.
Speaker 3 (01:15:34):
Sometimes he's not trying to do bodily harm. Crag. That's
what that's what that strength is.
Speaker 1 (01:15:39):
You know your parents tell you to stay away from
the dudes with the strength, Like, look at these dudes.
They're carrying all that stuff around. Mark will carry that
with one finger.
Speaker 3 (01:15:48):
Yeah. So I was with one of his.
Speaker 1 (01:15:50):
Buddies yesterday and the dude said, I thought I was
bad until Mark put his hands on me and was like, yeah,
I'm not as bad as I thought I was. Sometimes
you got to punch the brakes a little bit. So
Mark quit being a space violin for my man, Craig
Craig Way, for Cam Parker doing what he does, Mark Henry,
and for Marcus back at the studios.
Speaker 3 (01:16:09):
We'll be better.
Speaker 1 (01:16:10):
Tomorrow because we will be back here at SEC Media days.
Speaker 3 (01:16:14):
But make sure you.
Speaker 1 (01:16:15):
Tune in this afternoon for yeah, and it's tight on you.
Speaker 3 (01:16:19):
It's about the bus. Yeah, make sure you tune in
this afternoon, and.
Speaker 1 (01:16:25):
As always, if you can't watch us on the stream,
make sure you always use that free iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 3 (01:16:32):
And we'll be better tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (01:16:35):
And just remember, don't believe everything you see, because Mark's
hands are heavy.
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Speaker 3 (02:06):
I want to start this off by saying.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
ATL shouty, ATL Shot.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
We up in this same down. We're in this place.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
We're here in Atlanta, Georgia, in the College Football Hall
of Fame, which is pretty pretty cool if you ask me.
I've been here one time before. This is my second
time in Atlanta. Being able to be in the College
Football Hall of Fame. We got a chance to do
a tour I don't know fame here.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
Yeah I was.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Yeah, I got it on my phone from when I
standed up next to a couple of people.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Dare you go?
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Okay, I thought you said you in Yeah, you get
my drift, You get my drift.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
But uh yeah, it's.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Pretty cool to be up in here and seeing all
the people here on radio row. We call it a
digital row now because I mean, everybody's digital. Everybody show,
everybody is here, everybody's digital.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
I will say this.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
I was here early this morning and there was a
shell going on and I don't you know, do your thing,
but you can hear it. It is loud and people
were yelling. And now there's more people here, so it
changes the whole view of everything. But let me just
tell you this. When people start yelling, I'm like, is
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the headset broke? Because there's some other things.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
That are here. God got Buka in the house, got gotta.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
B k If you take your headset off, it sounds
like you just mentioned like you just like to your grandma, huh, hey, Cam,
what do.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
You think about my shirt. I love it. This is hard.
Your shirt makes sense, makes sense.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Your you get your bicepsy set when your biceps.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
No, I can fit in hardest clothes.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
Mark I hold if you don't understand that you are
not fitting out. Oh, it's busted over. Man, A sausage
man over here. I got this Mediumonum. It's like I
have a sausage case and you have two buttons. The
second button it's fighting for its life right now. You're
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gonna kill Paul Finebaum today.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Hey, I saw Paul downstairs when I was walking in,
and I introduced myself and I said, I'm one of
the people that listen to you, and one of them.
I've thought about calling in several times because there's some
things that that that I just totally disagree with.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
He said, Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
He said, that would be awesome if you called in,
And I said, Paul, it's gonna happen.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
Me and Mike harg are gonna call it to your
show together one day.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Oh man, outstanding stuff. But yes, it's an exciting time
down here Texas. Obviously, as I said in the opening,
Texas will be the featured attraction for most of the
people here.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
You know, as well as I do.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
It creates a lot of chaos when the Longhorns are
in the house.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
There's also gonna be Kirby Smart.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
You know, Kirby Smart is pretty direct with his comments
and let you know right away exactly how he feels
and what it looks like going forward. But we got
a really good, good show today. Well I love to
say great, but I don't want people hating. But we're
gonna have another great show.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Yeah. We got Tony Barnhardt.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Mister SEC, mister college Football, will be joining us at
eight seventeen. We also have Paul Martin, uh, the director
of SEC. Any Given Saturday, Any Given Saturday, a new
hockey series.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
When you get him, now that I won't have my
world strongest take today.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Yeah, well, yeah, some things are better left unsaid, you
know what.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
I'm over his so.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
But one of the main things that we wanted to
talk about is obviously the SEC media days and Greg
Sank talked to the Little Little Bit yesterday and this
is courtesy of Orange Bloods and our gut en War
Richardson talking about the SEC and its strength of schedule.
Speaker 5 (06:09):
Conference games while some others play nine conference games. Never
been a secret second, it's also correct that last season,
all sixteen members of the Southeastern Conference played at these
nine games against what you would label power opponents. We
had several that played ten of their twelve games against
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power opponents. Some conferences have that, some don't. The same
would be true this year, and we have Washington State
and we're obviously transitioning in the paw of twelve. It's
included in that group, and we again have several of
our football teams that have ten of those power games
embedded within their schedule. I don't believe there's anyone looking
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to swap their conference schedule, and it's some opponents, the
opponents played by Southeastern Conference teams in our conference schedule,
be it eight or nine. I headed out a bunch
of stats and created a stir and dustin this show.
There's a rigor here that is unique. And yes, you see,
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we're not lacking for quality competition among our sixteen football teams.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
But we're going to.
Speaker 5 (07:22):
Continue to evaluate whether increasing the number of conference football
games is appropriate for us. And as I said repeatedly, understanding.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
How the CFP will evaluate.
Speaker 5 (07:35):
Strength of schedule meed and strength of record is critically
important in our decision making.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Well, you understand now, because everybody wants to talk about
the format and how all of this is supposed to transpire.
But the thing about it, to me mark the playoff
system continues.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
To be what it is.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
We've already created this narrative where it just means more
in the SEC, and we've also seen the dominance in
which the SEC has performed at a high level.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
You know as well as I do.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
You start to look around and you start to understand
this does mean a little bit more because now the
playing field is even heightened even more.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
How many, how many teams you want to end? I mean,
it's just at some point it gets to be too much.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Sixteen sixteen is good.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Sixteen is good, yeah, but I'm just saying it shouldn't
be more than that. And the people that wanted to
be more than that are the ones that are not able.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
They're not qualifying for the top ten.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
I mean, really, you should you should make it twelve, yep,
you know, I mean, just have a bracket on one side,
of bracket six on the other and just see who
comes to the end. But there's not There's there's enough
bowl games and people, but I mean, who cares about
the ball games really, to be honest with you, if
you just want to PLAYFF, you want to go to
the Mighty Key Ball, the Toilet Bowl?
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (08:58):
Do you want to go to the Humanitarian Bowl?
Speaker 3 (09:02):
I mean you do.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
But I'm just saying, like, in general, there's no there's
no desire. Yeah, I mean that's what I'm saying, Like
it changes the whole perspective. There's got to be a
part of goal at the end of that rainbow, right,
Like you're working hard to become a champion, So how's
the process? And you know as well as I do,
there are wild cards that end up making it. Think
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about the New York Giants that year. They were what
uh a five hundred team and then all of a
sudden they find a way to get into the Super
Bowl and win and beat the Patriots. I mean, there's
there's so many different stories that are out there at
this particular time. But the main thing for me is
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it is true. The strength of schedule is just that
it's the sec eating their own right.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
That's why Texas wanted to be in the scree And
if that's it shows that you are the elite of
the elite, then you win right and Oklahoma is gonna
be a lot better team this year. The two things
that were the biggest problem is they were injured their
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wide receiver and they didn't have somebody that could throw
the ball more in fifteen yards. They fixed both of
those in the off season. Oklahoma is gonna be a
better team this year. So like the two teams that
came into the SEC, hard is going to be dramatically better.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
So it just makes the conference even stronger.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Yeah, it's it's gonna be interesting. We'll continue the conversations
as we're starting day two of SEC media days in
the atl Concrete Cowboy or yassays was outside yesterday.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
You got Major League Carter.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Oh yeah, Herd I thought it was concrete Cowboy Cowboy
Carter and everybody else was out there.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
We've had a good time.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
We got a chance to sit down and talk to
a lot of people. We will continue these discussions because
coming up next we're gonna talk more about the SEC.
You'll hear from Lane Kiffin. You're here from Diego, Pavia
and he's got a lot to talk about. So I'm
excited about it, and we'll continue those conversations right here.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
On a Texas Tuesday.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Addition, from the atl of the morning kickoff on Sports
Radio AM thirteen hundred all eight into my own end,
We're back in Atlanta at atl Shouty.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
We here at SEC Media Days.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
Kirby Smart gets things going today and everything ends with Texas.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
So Texas closes it out.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
You also have Tennessee today as well, but let's talk
about Texas.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
It's gonna be chaotic, man.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
We were taking bets last night trying to figure out
how many actual players and coaches are gonna make it
up here where we are because last year when we
were in Atlanta, I mean in Dallas, it was a
little bit different and it changes the way that you
were able to maneuver. Well, now you get a chance
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to do some different things and it's been pretty dog
one cool as things start to break down, So get
to see a lot of people and that just goes
to show us that football season is here. Yeah, and
we're up against it, so I'm excited about it. Coming up,
in the next segment, we have our weekly with Joe
Cook of Inside Texas.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
He's actually on site, so we'll get a.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
Chance to kick it with Joe and get a chance
to talk to him a little bit as we get
closer and closer to the kickoff, and speaking about the kickoff,
I wanted to get into this conversation, Mark, because Lane
Kiffin talked yesterday, and you know Lane Kiffin. For Lane Kiffin,
he seemed pretty tame than what he normally was. But
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he did give a tip of the cap to Steve
sark and of course Kirby Smart and how these guys
are the ones that are at the top of the
field type TI, who do you.
Speaker 5 (13:07):
Think is gonna take this uh, this field next year?
Sarkis can have a chance over Georgia and how can
we look at it though your eyes?
Speaker 3 (13:17):
Well, I think that's Those are the two premier programs
and premier coaches.
Speaker 6 (13:22):
In college football, and so I think they do an
amazing job, you know, having having both of them, being
both of them at Alabama and to see how they've
they've used that and then being with Sarkis at USC
as well, and how he's used Pete Carroll things and
implemented there. I think they both do an amazing job.
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And really in those SEC meetings, you know, you're always
listening to the coaches and their input. I feel like
both those guys really run their program truly as a CEO,
and they know everything that's going on, and they're very
creative in their ideas and how to navigate through this
world right now. So I think they're both really good friends,
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really good people, and phenomenal.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
Coaches and they are all those things that he said.
That was Terry Middleton asking that question. And you know
the one thing about all of this, and you know
as well as I do, you've got to be able
to build from within. You have to be able to
create the mindset of the football coach, right, like we
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talk about the players sound like the head coach. And
now we're sitting in a point where these things have
kind of turned into all right, just that question. Lane
could have been rude about it because it's like, wait
a minute, my program is pretty dog one good too.
But the respect of all of those guys together, he
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took it. He took the high road in that sense.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Cards you've seen the NFL Quarterback Club, right, those guys
they look out for each other, correct, and the coaches
are not not exactly the same, right, there's no difference.
They look out Well, there are some coaches that you
really want to sometimes there's always that one person with
what you say, the one that is the babyface in
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the hill. There's always all exactly, you know, it's all
about them, yeah, you so forth. But for the most part,
UH as a collective, you you want the standard to
be the standard. You always say that, and they want
to get they want to know who's going to get
paid what, because it's going to raise the tide.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
For everybody, exactly.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
And so with both of these programs, the way that
they're set up, the way that they've been able to
do certain things as far as building their programs the
way that they want to. Obviously, Kirby has been the
pick of the little He's been at the top of
the food chain. But yes, other guys are coming. Other
guys are making moves like Steve Sarkisian who went from
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five to seven to eight and five and then back
to back. Double wind UH double digit wins and playoff
appearances are something that you always try to strive for.
But one of the teams that believes that they are
really the hype is Vanderbilt and Diego Pavia, who has
been in college for like seems like since Cam was
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in college. They might have went to school together because
from what I understand, the dudes twenty four years old
playing college quarterback, and still he might try to get
another year.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
Who knows. You never know what's gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
You know, everybody's not going to play at the highest
level in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
OK.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
So if you can maximize your time as a pro
in well i'd said pro in college, but as a
starter in college that you could.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
Call it a pro in college. Profession paid, they get paid.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
I mean, I don't know if he's getting a million
or if he getting more than a million. Yeah, but
still none of that's that's a good living, really good living.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
Oh for sure. You know you do that three or
four years and then you go into the workforce, you've
already you got a leg up.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
But the one thing about Diego Papa you don't have
to worry about is his confidence. The one thing that
really drives him nuts right now is the fact that
they lost to Texas, And he spoke on that yesterday.
Speaker 5 (17:21):
Well, we had a lot of close Oh, we had
a lot of close games last year.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
Texas is one that we lost by three. Obviously, we
want to, you know, get every loss.
Speaker 5 (17:31):
Back and a bench every loss but we get to
see them in Austin, so.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
It'll be a fun game.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Yeah, that's gonna be another fun game. We get a
chance to see him in Austin, Texas this year. Now
let's see how he succumbs to that pressure of being
in the d k R.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
Well.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
I think he lives for those types of moments. Though,
if you watch the way he plays, you know he's
got some. We're sitting next to the folks over at Texas.
He's got a little bit of that Johnny Manzell to
him to where he's got that.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
He won't some of that phone. He wants to be
a part of a lot of that action.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
So he got a mouth on him. Yeah, he's ready
to go. I guarantee you that Anthony Hill gonna have
something to close it.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
They gonna they're ready to light him up. Yeah, keep
my name out your mouth, no doubt. So today we
have Auburn Georgia Tennessee and finish it off with the
University of Texas. And you know what, I'm what are
you expecting to hear from these coaches? Obviously you look
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at who Georgia is with Kirby and I talked.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
About that he's very blunt.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
We've already we know Sark's motto and how he goes
about his business. Josh Heipel is Josh Hipel gonna talk
a lot about the Nico I'm gonna leave you situation?
Or is he gonna try to figure out how he
is going to maneuver because remember I told you yesterday
they didn't bring a quarterback. They didn't bring a quarterback
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this year two sec media days and that's all pack.
They're protecting the fact that the number one question is
going to be asked. Uh So, y'all lost shows franchise quarterback,
so to speak. And now you're taking that place, you know,
are you up? But on everything? Tennessee? And then you
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also got to look at Auburn. What is Auburn's situation?
Hugh Freeze? Is Hugh Freeze on a very very thin,
thin sheet of ice right now? Is he on thin
ice that much to where if he doesn't go out
and produce and be able to create the atmosphere in Auburn?
Speaker 3 (19:42):
Is that it? We heard from Cam Newton the other day.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Cam was talking about you could be three and seven
and taking on Alabama and all you got to do
is win that game. Because the SEC is built a
little bit different. Auburn, on the other hand, it's tired
of being below.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
They're tired of that.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
They've been to the mountaintop, they know what it looks like,
and they've had other opportunities, but over the last two
seasons they haven't been that great. So now what what's
the next move? What's the next opportunity? How is this
going to happen? So there's a lot of those.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
The deodor in his winning for sure, because you can
have that three and beat three and seven. But if
you beat Oklahoma and you beat the Aggies, then you
you're good.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
Yeah, Well, I don't know about three and seven in
Austin anymore.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
That's not gonna fly anymore. That's that's a recipe for
LED's to raise our standards.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
This is the recipe for start to uh get a realtor,
because you yeah, you ain't got to go home, but
you gots to get up out of here.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
Well you know as well as I do.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
This is not that time of year. That's not that
time or place anymore. This is a more put together,
well built, oiled machine that is trending in the right direction.
Coach Sarkesian with his leadership and his camaraderie with his
coaching staff. I told Craig yesterday that that, to me
was the best deoda. It not making all those changes
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at the highest level where you're changing coordinators every year, coach.
I think there's only two teams in the country, and
Texas is one of them that has the exact same
offensive coordinator, defensive coordinator, and hand coach. So good things
are happening on the forty Acres. When we come back,
we're gonna get Joe Cook up Inside Texas and find
out what his thoughts.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
Are about SEC Media Day. Now. It is time.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
We're getting closer and closer to the kickoff of the
football season. Right here on Sports Radio AM thirteen hundred
the Zone. We are live in Atlanta, Georgia, day two
of SEC Media Days. And you know when SEC Media
Days start, you got to bring out all your guests,
and it just happens happens to be in the atl
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is our guy, Joe Cook of Inside Texas. You can
follow him at Joseph Cook eighty nine. Joe always good
to catch up with you, and it just so happens
to be We're getting closer and closer to the football season.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
I know, it's so exciting.
Speaker 7 (22:21):
I once we hit like the part of the countdown
where it's you're not looking in the fifties and when
they're like, who even worre number fifty three, it's like
number forty eight, And I can remember a couple guys
who were forty eight or forty six and that type
of thing. So I'm really excited at this point, no doubt.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
So what was your biggest takeaway yesterday? Was it sanky
was it Vanderbilt? Was it Lane Kiffin? What was your
thoughts on yesterday's media days.
Speaker 7 (22:46):
I was really focused in on what Sankie had to
say because there's so much going on, and he admitted it,
and he's very good about putting out the SEC's message,
and I wondered what he would say about, you know,
all and il stuff about game you know, schedules and
stuff like that. But I knew he was going to
really emphasize like this is a power conference, this is
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all that, and kind of kick everything, kick the can
down the road.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
He doesn't.
Speaker 7 (23:13):
I think he understands that when he goes to Destin
for those spring meetings, that's a place where he can
kind of tackle hard issues, but he wants to celebrate
the SEC at an event like this, and yeah, there
are going to be things to talk about, but he
wants he wants to put focus on the season.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
I was I like listening to him talk.
Speaker 7 (23:30):
I know that's kind of company guy things to say,
but like I do like watching him and because I
think he's he's very well prepared for whatever he goes
and talks about, and I think that's a good thing
to have when there's so much going on in college sports.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Joe, you have to see somebody own a room, Like
he walks in and owns a room.
Speaker 7 (23:49):
Not in this type of environment because there are a
lot of people who I don't want to like powerful people. Yeah,
I don't want to like deify him, but like at
the same time, like there are a lot of people
in the room who don't He's just like, okay, you're
bleeding blood, like I do whatever. But like he definitely
walks in controls the room.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
And that dude has a presence.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
When you see him walk in, it's like Chafts music
starts playing. You hear he's got his own background music.
Like that dude is powerful man. So let me ask
you this. So we we we've kicked that can down
the road. As far as the college football playoffs, everybody's
going back and forth the eleven five five eleven, whatever
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it may be. But when you get down to the
brass tacks of it all and you look at this conference,
the SEC, from top to bottom, there's no denying that
it is one of the premiere, if not the premiere
conference from head to head. If you were to go
and play each other conference head to head, you could
take the best of them that conference and play the
best of that conference. You can play the worst of
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that conference and play the worst. SEC is pretty much
going to be that conference. Did we think we knew this?
But now being a part of this, you really get
to see it, don't you.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
That's the thing.
Speaker 7 (25:03):
I think there are a lot of Texas fans who
still are not in the whole like ra ra SEC thing,
and I don't think they ever will be right just
because they're the latest arrivals. They have not a lot
of people in the league like them anyway, and they've
got three different teams that already are not big fans
of them, and the Texas walking in year one and
making it to the SEC title game probably didn't endear
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very many other fan bases, and winning baseball, you know,
winning the softball national championship, they probably looking so, oh, no,
what do.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
We do letting these guys and girls in?
Speaker 7 (25:34):
But I think at the same time, yeah, you look
around and you see why this league is. Did they
care more and they had the dollars to back up
that care more. And you see that in football, men's
and women's basketball, baseball, basically all the big sports to
where they back up they put their money where their
mouth is. And when it comes to the playoff, personally,
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like I like that five to eleven idea, like let
the best, you know, you get your conference champions in,
and then you let the highest rated teams in. Where
Sank disagrees is he thinks that the Big twelve and
others conferences are inferior to a level to where the
SEC and the Big ten deserve more spots just because
they play at that higher level. I don't agree with it,
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but I see why he's saying that. But then at
the same time he talks about how there also needs
to be a change in the selection process or maybe
a little bit more you know, just transparency, And I
think that's true too, because yeah, he's going to go
to the bat for Ole Miss and Alabama and South
Carolina over a team like SMU in Indiana, right right,
completely understand that. And so if he's going to do that,
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he would like to know what the process is. I
think last year of the process is like, you know what,
eleven wins is more than nine? And I know that
we all wins don't look the same. But when the
difference is two, you don't need to do all the
strength to schedule stuff. But if it's one, okay, you
can start playing that game.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
Joe that if that win is over Sam Houston as
opposed to eating Vanderbilt, then you it means more.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
It does.
Speaker 7 (27:05):
But I struggle to go to like analytics and strength
to schedule when the difference is to total wins.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
I'm with you on that.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
I always say that the numbers can look the way
you want them to look, right, you know that that's
the accounting, right he started looking at Oh I wrote
off this because of that, and oh we made that work.
We made and he was cooking the books exactly. So
I'm with you on that. We're talking to Joe Cook
of Inside Texas. You can follow him at Joseph Cook
eighty nine.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
Joe.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Now we get down to the football season and you're
you know that the Hike train, which is the Texas Longhorns,
are coming in today. But I really want to hear
what Kirby Smart has to say, because Kirby is another
guy who pounds his chest for the sec He knows
what it looks like to be there. He's been at Alabama,
he's played for Georgia, and now he's won national championships
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with Georgia. Do you find him interesting and somebody that's
very direct with his comments?
Speaker 3 (28:01):
Absolutely.
Speaker 7 (28:02):
I think he probably is right behind Mark Stoops for
being in this room the longest. And you know, Kentucky's
a basketball school. I don't think what Mark Soops says
is gonna have a lot of sway. So he's the
guy kind of at the forefront of the league, obviously
the most successful coach in the league of the past
few years, and he says what he thinks is going
to be best for University of Georgia and his football program.
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And to be honest with you, what's usually best for
Georgia is good for a school like Texas as well. Right,
So I think it's one of those situations where he, yeah,
definitely comes in. What I'm really curious to see is
how he's gonna say, how he's gonna look at the
media and said, y'all.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
Didn't believe we were gonna do it. Y'all thought we
were gonna go seven and five.
Speaker 7 (28:40):
And then I looked at they send out all the literature,
like everybody picked Georgia to be the SEC or Georgia
was the predominant pick to be the SEC champion last year,
so no one knows how to spend a narrative for
his own sake, like Kirby Smart.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
But yeah, he'll come in.
Speaker 7 (28:54):
I'm quarterback situation is the most fascinating part for me
because that is a team that, for the first first
time in a while, it looks like they've made good
decisions in the portal at wide receiver, and they've not
really relied on wide receiver because they have guys like
you know, Lost and Lucky and Oscar delp.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
And not Bowman, but the.
Speaker 7 (29:14):
Tight ends, the raiders, I forget his names. They they
haven't had to rely on receivers. Now they have some receivers,
but who's gonna be throwing it to him is if
Leasy is a Stockton Again, that's the big storyline for
Georgia in a league where there's so many solid situations
at quarterback.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
And they brought Gunner stocked in here, so it'll be
interesting to see how he handles it and seeing what
he believes in the pressure of playing that position. There
is Joseph Cook from Inside Texas and on three.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
You can follow him.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
At Joseph Cook eighty nine, and of course you can
find all of his stuff at on three dot com.
Him and his crew do an unbelievable job and I'm
glad we got a chance to do it in person
this time.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
Yeah, he's awesome. Proud three proud dads, sir, Help we
make it happen. When we come back, we'll continue the
conversation home run Derby.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
It was hitting some long balls last night and Joe
knows the thing about that as well. Right here on
the morning kickoff from SEC Media Days in Atlanta, Georgia.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
Right here on Sports Radio AM thirteen hundred.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
This's all great stuff by I got Joe Cook of
Inside Texas. You can follow them at Joseph Cook eighty
nine for all the latest, yes and exciting Times SEC
Media Days from the city of Atlanta.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
Outstanding stuff. As always, so.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
Many people are here for the Auburn Tigers. You got
Texas coming in a little bit later, Tennessee. There's so
many people that are here, so a lot of fun
for good things that are happening. But last night in Atlanta,
home Run Derby was taking place. There'll be the All
Star Game tonight. We'll close off the show talking about
the All Star Game and the lineups that were there.
Speaker 3 (30:54):
But last night Home Run Derby. Did you see Cody
Rose walk out there? No se Cody? Yeah, man, I
send you the crip. What was he doing? Just giving
out the trophy? I mean, did he give out the belt?
Speaker 1 (31:05):
Because everybody got a championship belt, so I must have
called it at the end. Yeah, I missed that part
of it. But yeah, so as always, they're they're doing
so many amazing things. The best story of it all though,
was the Rileigh family and what they were able to
do because of the fact that you look at the
dad was pitching to him, the brother, who's a fifteen
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year old kid was catching, and then of course he's
hitting all the home runs. But the story was also
how he got into the next round.
Speaker 8 (31:40):
Cal Rowley advanced because of this Timeebreaker zero point ninety
six inches longest home run over Brent Rooker, they were
tied with seventeen homers. And because of our friends at
Statcast who do a marvelous, marvelous job, we know that
the difference of less than one inch separated cal Rally
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from Brent Rooker to make it to the semi finals.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
Unbelievable that you think that it was that short of
a distance for him to advance, and it was again
analytics stack Cast being able to tell you the exact
distance for you to advance after you had tied.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
Man, I don't even understand now all of the things that.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
Are happening in baseball.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
What do you think about now being able to say, hey,
challenge that like a challenge call.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
Yeah, that's ridiculous. I just don't even I don't even
like that.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
You can tap your head on that on the home
plate and say let's get this going. But right now
I want you to hear about the victory and how
he wanted.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
No will not get out.
Speaker 9 (32:51):
The Dominican dominance comes to an end.
Speaker 8 (32:54):
The big Dumper is your home run derby champion.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
For twenty twenty five and all the Dumpy's celebrate.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
How about the job that his younger brother and his
dad jack fantastic?
Speaker 3 (33:10):
I love it? Are you kidding me?
Speaker 9 (33:13):
Well?
Speaker 1 (33:13):
The best part is the dumpies. I'm like, how is
that even part of the conversation? Why would you even
call that? Because that's his nickname. That'd be perfect for wrestling.
The big dumper is that that's his nickname, Kyl cal Riley.
And check this out. You're at home run Derby. The
object is to hit home runs, but someone decides I'm
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gonna try to be a superstar and get on Sports
Center's top ten play.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
But they made it a not top ten.
Speaker 10 (33:42):
Oh no, crazy, no freaking way, no way, how are
you doing?
Speaker 7 (33:51):
Look at the kid on the bottom.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
Dude tried to hit on Robb the dude of a
home run. They credited him with the home run.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
But there was a kid in the outfield shagging that
climbed the wall to make the play to stop a
home run last night. Oh my god, in any other situation,
you're getting thrown out, any other situation, you're getting out
of there. You throw him out, No, you throw him out.
He knows you do not go on the track. You
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don't go on the warning track and try to climb.
Speaker 3 (34:22):
The wall to make yourself a sports center top ten.
Now you're not. Sometimes so you think the.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
Kid did that intentionally to try to get on sports
I think that he was being a kid again.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
You know the rules when you walk in there, just
like you tried to walk up here without your credential.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
What they tell.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
You, Hey, man, let me putting my business in the street.
You tried to walk on and what was part one?
It was called the Hall of Pain the wrestlers almost
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speaking of that since we are in Atlanta, the pop
that you got, a lot of people keep talking about it.
Thank you for having inviting me to dinner last night
with one of your homies, and I had a great,
great time talking to him.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
He was very very in this miller of the cat.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
The cat was very enlightening and just a genuinely good dude.
But you were kind of in shock with the response
that people gave.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
I wish I would have got that reaction when I
was Champ.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
Well, well, it's amazing what happens when you leave the business,
how people appreciate your wyeh, that's awesome, man, I sat
there in my glory right that Sunday night, you know,
I went to the Evolution pay per view. I had
three of the women that I found and they were
all performing and they wanted me there, so like the
(35:56):
ww brought me there and put me in the front
row and I got to watch those ladies show out
and when one of them j yeah, yes, and Bianca
and Samantha Irvan. But man, it was humbling just to
look around and the people want Cody. I came to
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the back and Cody said, god right, he said, man,
like they still love you, And I said, yeah, man,
I felt it.
Speaker 3 (36:26):
I know we talked about a little bit yesterday.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
But Vicky Guerrero, I mean, I know that's her her gimmick,
loves how I used that you and the wrestling lingo,
I needn't stop talking. I knew that was her gimmick.
But the reality of it was was that was loud.
It was loud to that ruined your pop. Not really,
you didn't.
Speaker 3 (36:48):
Take away from it. Shows the difference in the pop.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
Yeah, no doubt that. The pop in the heat. So
that's good stuff right there. But yes, Atlanta has been
fun so far. We've seen a lot of good people. Obviously,
I've seen Auburn players walking around here up here to
talk to their people, so we will end up seeing
a lot of folks as we move forward with this
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entire thing. But the one thing that I always wanted
to talk about during this home run derby in the
All Star Game, which we'll get into to end the
show today, you start to look at this city. The
mecca of Atlanta last year was in Dallas. So All
Star Game was in Dallas. It seemed to be a
lot more people, a lot more energy, and I think
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a lot of that had to do with Texas and
Oklahoma coming into the conference, new meat on it. Now
we're back in the South. Now we're here where it
all began. Where SEC just means more. It's a true,
true conversation and a true movement. Because I'm looking around
here with this digital road that we're on. There's people
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everywhere and I hadn't even made it all the way
around to the other side yet. So interesting times in
the SEC, Greg sank and as we talked about, a
lot more people are getting ready to get started. Our
number one is in the books, Our number two is
just around the corner. We'll have some NFL Talk, and
of course we have Tony Barnhart mister SEC. We got
(38:19):
Paul martin SEC any given Sunday, and we'll close out
the show giving away some tickets right here on the
morning kickoff on sports Radio AM thirteen hundred The Zone.
Welcome back to our number two of the morning kickoff
right here on Sports Radio AM thirteen hundred The Zone.
In our number one, we talked to SEC Media Day
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since we here we are here in Atlanta for SEC
Media Days. We also talked about Lane Kiffen and Diego
Pavia talking about the SEC Lane, giving love to coach
Sark and coach Smart. We had Joe Cook of Inside
Texas breaking it down like no other, and of course
we talked home run Derby. But right now we want
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to get into the NFL. Coming up at eight seventeen,
we have Tony Barnhart mister SEC talking all things SEC,
the story of the SEC and everything else that goes
along with it. But right now we want to get
into the NFL. The NFL is a place where a
lot of folks catch heat, a lot of folks get love,
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but most importantly, it's an opportunity for you to play
at the next level and do some amazing, amazing things.
Speaker 3 (39:32):
But right now I want you to hear from Dan Orlowski.
Speaker 1 (39:35):
There was a conversation that was had and ESPN put
out a ranking.
Speaker 3 (39:39):
That did not have CJ.
Speaker 1 (39:40):
Stroud in the top ten, and dan Orlowski could say
he was not very happy about it.
Speaker 3 (39:48):
We're coming to you, Dan.
Speaker 11 (39:49):
Biggest issue with this list, My biggest issue with the
list two one CJ. Stroud not being on the list.
I think silly, dumb, idiotic. The people that said, after
c J. Stroud's rookie year, best rookie season we've ever had.
And in that year of twenty twenty three, he was
like forty one hundred yards, twenty three touchdowns, five interceptions,
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like sixty three percent completion percenter, So numbers wise, pretty
darn good. Last year with fotom five offensive line, he
lost his number one, number two and number three three
receiver for significant stretches, sixty three percent completion percenter of
thirty eight hundred yards and I think he had twenty
touchdowns now twelve interceptions interceptions went up, so disaster all
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around him, by the way, offense coordinator, offensive coordinator never evolved,
Disaster around him and puts them somewhat similar performance wise.
So the guy that people were saying, like, hey, he's
the next Joe Burrow top five player, all of a
sudden is out of the top ten. That for me
is probably the biggest gripe we can make the conversation
Jalen hurts higher than a.
Speaker 3 (40:50):
Justin Herbert, but C. J.
Speaker 11 (40:51):
Stroud not being in there as big as issue.
Speaker 1 (40:54):
Yeah, I'm with that, man. I mean we talked about
as Justin Herbert Dunne that man. I've been punching Justin
Herbert in the face every time they say something about
him because.
Speaker 2 (41:04):
Of that list. But if you're going to remove anybody,
you take Herbert out and you put Stroud in. If
he's not in that spot and he's eighth, right, then
put him in there. That was a bocus list. That's
somebody that's a beauty contest. Well, if somebody that's got
the warm fuzzies for.
Speaker 1 (41:23):
Herbert, well, I'm telling you right now, it's the fact
of the matter, that is, it's always been like that.
Every time you start to think about what Justin Herbert
is and who he is and how the conversation's always
wrapped around him, I've said it he has. He's the
one that has not achieved anything. He hadn't put himself
in a spot to where the excitement will always be around.
(41:45):
And so we always try to talk about the fact
that things are always looking a certain way. So in
that instance, you start to understand that this is not
what it's supposed to be. Like I've said it before
and I'm gonna say it again, and chill, Justin Herbert
actually shows me that he can win games. Because let's
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put it like this, people beat up Dak Prescott at
every opportunity that they possibly can. And everybody knows I
defend Dak, that's my dude. But the reality of it
is Justin Herbert that deserves all the smoke that Dak
Prescott gets until you give me that.
Speaker 3 (42:24):
I don't want to hear your your dark comments.
Speaker 2 (42:26):
But if Dak it was not performing, you would be
the first one to say, well, you know what, I
like him, but he ain't performing.
Speaker 3 (42:33):
Yes, I would, I would, and I've done that for
a lot of people. I Mean, you sit back and
you think about it. It's like you got to do
some things differently.
Speaker 1 (42:40):
And so every time I get a chance to see that,
I always say man, this.
Speaker 3 (42:44):
Is kind of.
Speaker 1 (42:48):
They didn't talk to the people that worked there know
what the hell is going on exactly. Also, but I
will give ESPN some love and the NFL some love
for this because our guy, Garrett Wilson from Lake Travis,
one of the coldest who ever come out of there,
one of the coldest athletes period, has agreed to a
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four year, one hundred and thirty million dollar contract extension.
Wilson was the twenty twenty one Rookie of the Year,
had one hundred and one receptions with fourteen hundred yards
and seven touchdowns during last year's campaign. The one story
that I found pretty interesting about Garrett Wilson is the
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number of quarterbacks. By the way, ninety million dollars of
that money of his one thirty is fully guaranteed.
Speaker 3 (43:41):
You can't beat that. You can't beat that.
Speaker 1 (43:43):
So if you look at who Garrett Wilson has caught
passes from, it.
Speaker 3 (43:48):
Is a unique list. It is a very very.
Speaker 1 (43:53):
Quarterbacks exactly, and you start to think, Okay, Aaron Rodgers,
Zach Wilson, Tim Boyle, Server, I don't even know if
that's that dude Stevers or whatever his name was.
Speaker 3 (44:10):
Stevers.
Speaker 1 (44:10):
Yeah, he caught passes from eight different quarterbacks.
Speaker 3 (44:15):
Wow, he'sn't been in the league for three years. Mark,
he was Rookie of the.
Speaker 1 (44:20):
Year in twenty twenty one, and he's caught passes from
like twelve different quarterbacks in that short period of time.
So it is it is really unbelievable when you sit
back and you think about how this is all developed
and the fact that they decided to give him the
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money that he wanted.
Speaker 2 (44:42):
Well, they want to give him that money because they
don't want him to get this enchanted and say, hey
trade me, bro y'all not you bringing all these quarterbacks
in and nobody's being able to step up.
Speaker 3 (44:53):
Let me out of here. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (44:55):
I think that the way that he goes about it
has been one of those things to us like, come on, man,
this is utterly ridiculous. But he found a way to
get his money, and I'm I'm excited to see what
he has, what he has in store for what's moving
next for him, even though I don't even know who
their quarterback is for the New York Jets this year.
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Oh this is gonna be then that might work because
they were teammates. They were teammates at Ohio State, So
this might be a good thing for him and he'll
get a chance to make some moves. So we'll see
what happens. But also we wanted to bring up Andrew mccouba.
He was getting love some one of his former teammates
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who was here at SEC Media Days. He played with
him at at Clemson, and he was talking about how
mccuba is one of the best players that he's ever
played with and he's gonna fit in good with the
Philadelphia Eagles.
Speaker 6 (45:55):
I want to take you back to your time at
Clemson when you were teammates with Andrew mccuba.
Speaker 5 (45:59):
What was it like watching him get drafted and what
can you tell us about him and y'alls relationship?
Speaker 3 (46:03):
That was awesome. Cools, my guy. I'm very proud of
him and him going to the Eagle. That's gonna fit
him out.
Speaker 1 (46:08):
He plays for sure, so he's a man, tough guy,
flies around, ready to hit somebody.
Speaker 3 (46:14):
Man. That's that Eagle defense. He's gonna fit in for
sure over there.
Speaker 1 (46:18):
I'm a big, big fan of Andrew mccoob. But since
day one, he's got a very close relationship with my
cousin and he's been he's been telling me about him
for quite some time, and then when I saw him
at Clemson.
Speaker 3 (46:31):
Well, I saw him at LBJ and you saw the
talent there.
Speaker 1 (46:34):
But then you saw him go to Clemson and then
come back to the University of Texas being on being
back at home handling his business, and he's one of
those guys. When you see him, you're like, this dude
plays safety. Now he's in the NFL, You're like, this
dude plays safety. But then you see him go out
there and pop somebody and you realize, yeah, he's that guy.
Speaker 2 (46:54):
Everybody talks about his ability to hit people and the
fact that he can make tackles. The reason that he's
able to do that is because of his intellect. He's
a coach on the field, like they let's talk more
about his intelligence in his football IQ. This is a
guy that he sees the play developed before it gets there.
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And these guys are blind, they're just walking in the
dark and he's got a flashlight and there's nothing that
they can do about it. So when you see mccooba
make a move, it's because he's already three steps ahead
and he's got steam build up, so like it's gonna
be good. For well, it's not gonna be good for
us cowboy fans because he'll be able to diagnose and
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see what's going on.
Speaker 3 (47:37):
Yeah, hopefully they don't let him play that much.
Speaker 1 (47:40):
Yeah whatever, yea, hopefully doesn't get whatever play that much
during that time. But as always, you know, you start
to look at the NFL and what's going on within
the moves and the shaking, and like I said before,
the NFL is about to start training camp.
Speaker 3 (47:55):
We're here at SEC.
Speaker 1 (47:57):
Media Days because of football season being ready around the corner.
But you start to look at some of these these
moves that are being made across the NFL and across
college football. Times are changing, Times are changing in the league,
times are changing across the area. But now you start
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to understand that, hey man, there's some talent talented players
at this level, but there's even more talented players at
the top level.
Speaker 3 (48:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (48:27):
I mean, you see young players come in. You don't
expect them all to go straight to the top, but
you know, you see players like Macouba, who is a
young player, but he can rise on the depth chart
real fast because he can accentuate everybody else's abilities. Yeah,
you know, so I always love seeing smart people.
Speaker 1 (48:49):
I do wanted to point out that the NFL came
out with this top one hundred players. We'll talk a
little bit more about that later in the week after
SEC Media days or all done, because we want to
focus on that. But you look at what is going
on with the NFL. Dak Prescott number seventy nine in
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the top one hundred, and that was because of what
happened to him last year. He fell out of grace
because of the fact that he got hurt. Now he'll
get an opportunity to play. He looks like he's in
the best shape of his life and now moving forward
he'll get a chance to move up, and I guarantee
you by the end of the season, he'll be a
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top twenty five player, not top twenty five.
Speaker 2 (49:36):
You know, he reads the press, clippers and he sees
where he is. He's not going to stand for that.
Speaker 1 (49:41):
The motivation is there as always. I'm motivated as well.
Coming up next, we're supposed to have Tony Barnhart coming
over here, mister SEC. If he's not here, we'll continue
the conversations. We'll get Cam involved if we need to.
Right here on the morning kick off on Sports Radio
AM thirteen The Zone. It doesn't happen a lot, but
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as you continue to work in this business, you get
the opportunity to work with some really, really awesome people,
some people that you can consider idols, and right now
here is one of mine. I'm so excited to be
joined right now on the morning kickoff on sports Radio
AM thirteen hundred The Zone with Tony Barnhardt, mister college Football.
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And let me just say, first off, thank you very
much for joining us this morning. I know you're a busy,
busy man, but I'm a little sad. I'm a little
sad this is gonna be your last run this season.
You're gonna walk away from the business for a while.
You've done it for so long. It's time, Huh, it's time.
This is my fiftieth year I'm doing this. Graduated from
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the University of Georgia on June tenth, nineteen seventy six,
went to work the very next day at my first
newspaper job, and been working ever since. And this will
be fiftieth.
Speaker 12 (51:02):
And I told I told my mom, who's ninety two,
and I said, Mom, this is what I'm gonna do.
Speaker 3 (51:06):
And she said fifty She said, son, that's a nice
round under.
Speaker 12 (51:11):
So we had my wife and I had been talking
about for several years now, but how in this you
guys know this, in this business, in the media business,
you don't. You don't usually get to write your own
script exactly go. And that was very important to me,
and it's been I definitely wanted to get the first
year of the playoff in but uh, after the season,
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we finally decided that this would be my last one
and we're gonna take a little my wife. My wife's
calling it a fair farewell tour, and I said, no, sweetheart,
I'm not dying. Okay, let's just let's just call it
a thank you to her, a celebration to her. But
I'm going to go get to as many campuses as
I can during the season, and we're turning this last
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season into a book.
Speaker 3 (51:54):
Oh nice, wow. Yeah.
Speaker 12 (51:55):
I have a great relationship with UGA University of Georgia Press.
They probably my last book, and uh, when I told
them what I was gonna do, they said, we're in
and so we'll I'll gather stuff during the year and
when the season's over, I will jump in with both
feet and get that book done. And we should have
it out hopefully in the fall of twenty twenty six.
Speaker 2 (52:17):
So, with all this time going that you're gonna have
on your hands, what's the first thing you're gonna do
to kind of relax and be able to say, you know,
I'm just gonna I'm just gonna enjoy life.
Speaker 12 (52:27):
I'm going to spoil my grandchildren even more than they're
spoiled right now. Okay, I haven't done a sufficient job
in spoiling and so that's uh, now, that's one of
the things we're gonna do. We got we got Missus
Barnhart's got plans for me. Of course we're honey to do.
We're going We're going on the Disney cruise next March,
and then twenty twenty seven will be number fifty for
(52:51):
me and Missus Barnhart.
Speaker 3 (52:53):
Oh wow.
Speaker 12 (52:53):
And so we're going to take a Viking river cruise
down the Rhine. So we're she's she's got big plans
for me. After being married to a sports writer fifty years,
you've missed. The honeydew list is long and extensive.
Speaker 1 (53:07):
It's funny that you say that, because again, fifty another
big round number. Yes, your mother would say, So that's
that's awesome to hear. I wanted to ask you this too,
because you've obviously seen the evolution of college football. You've
seen the changes and the different conference realignments and different
teams coming in and moving around. What has been the
(53:29):
biggest I guess you would say surprise that you have
seen with the way things are done, or disappointment that
you've seen with the way to disappoint mean.
Speaker 12 (53:41):
Well, the what I have enjoyed is watching this conference grow,
but not not going all big ten on you. Okay,
where you've got Oregon and Washington in your league and
as Commissioner Sankie would say, yeah, we got sixteen teams,
but they're in eleven contiguous states. Now contiguous is one
of those fancy where that means they all connected together, okay, like,
(54:04):
and so that's it's been to bring Texas and Oklahoma
and just I mean, you think about the games that
we're going to get to see now, uh, and the
fact that arch Manning is in this league. I'm fascinated
to watch that because I'm so old. I saw his
grandfather play in Sanford Stadium in nineteen seventy and so
it has been has been a joy to watch and
(54:25):
it's gonna be more and more. We're still at least
two years out of being where we want to be
all the on the NIL and transfer portal and all
that we're not. We're not there yet, but hopefully we're
headed in the right direct.
Speaker 1 (54:37):
So where are you staying on that? On the NIL
and the portal? A lot of people are not happy
with it, and a lot of people are forward.
Speaker 3 (54:47):
Where are you on these? Well?
Speaker 12 (54:48):
I want to make sure the players get what the
players are supposed to get. That's all. That's always been
my issues. So what we have to do is there
are a couple of things I think have got to
happen to get You know, they got the settlement case
and the players are getting paid the twenty million, and
that's all well and good, but until you figure out
what to do from a from a legal standpoint, from
(55:09):
from anti an anti trust standpoint, every time you make
a ruling that somebody disagrees with, if they're going to
take you to court, and you're probably going to lose.
So I still think we've got some work to do there.
The NIL is, the NIL is not going away. As
long as I want you to come to my car
dealership and sign pictures and take photographs for two hours
and I'll pay you a couple of thousand bucks. I
(55:31):
should be able to do that, Okay, you should be
able to receive the money. And so again we've made progress,
but we still got.
Speaker 3 (55:37):
A long way to go.
Speaker 13 (55:38):
Where are you on The going rate for a quarterback
is A yeah, unless you're the kid from Tennessee when
you actually negotiate it down instead of up.
Speaker 12 (55:49):
But that's a that's the whole story, right, wells, I'm
a free market guy. I think as I think a
player's worth whether anybody is willing to pay him correct.
And what you want to do, though, is you do
want to have some sort of structure so that you've
got some idea what your cost is for I think
the players, the players in a situation where they're gonna
(56:10):
have to learn they're gonna have to put together an
organization collectively bargaining bargaining, because what they're doing now, they're saying, well,
we're gonna review your nil deal to make sure that
it's legal and to make sure that it's market value.
And if I'm the player on my player's lawyer, I'm
gonna say, wait a minute, he didn't negotiate. He didn't
give you the rights to determine what he should be receiving. Okay,
(56:31):
so it's it's Nick Saban said the most poignan thing.
I went to see him about a month ago in
his office in Tuscaloosa. He said, look, Tony, first of all,
everybody has to understand it's never going back to the
way it used to be. That's not going to happen.
We've changed forever. But what we're doing now is not sustainable. Okay,
(56:53):
there's got to be more structure. So you've got to
come up with some kind And he said, there's a
wheat spot in the middle there and the adults in
the room and got to find it.
Speaker 3 (57:04):
So it's taking the adults. What's that if it's negotiated.
Speaker 12 (57:10):
Yes, salary cap works in the NFL because the players
union has negotiated what the cap will be. And as
long as the players get to negotiate what they're gonna
be what the salaries are. That I'm okay with it
with a cap because if you don't have a cap,
then you don't know what your salary structure is.
Speaker 3 (57:30):
Right, So yeah, it's still going to be out of control.
Speaker 1 (57:33):
We're talking to mister college football, Tony Barnhardt, he is
fly walking away from the game, but he's still gonna
be around it.
Speaker 3 (57:43):
There's no way you're gonna leave this game.
Speaker 6 (57:45):
I'm not.
Speaker 12 (57:46):
I just I'm just walking away from the daily grind.
Doing this for the last fifty years.
Speaker 2 (57:50):
Man, I can't believe I got Craig Way on one side.
Speaker 3 (57:53):
And yeah, so let me ask you this, because.
Speaker 1 (57:57):
As you look at college football, and I know that
there's some highs and some lows, what are one of
your biggest high points that you have seen throughout your
career in one of the biggest low points?
Speaker 12 (58:10):
Well, I think anytime that you have trouble from an
NCAA standpoint, that's that's an issue. Okay, that's and frankly
I've lost all confidence in the NCAA. Okay, so that's there.
But I always tell people that said, what's your greatest
memory of that? And my greatest memory is December second,
(58:32):
nineteen eighty nine, the day that Alabama went.
Speaker 3 (58:36):
To Auburn for the first time in history.
Speaker 12 (58:39):
Bear Bryant says once said, as long as I'm alive,
Alabama will never play at Auburn.
Speaker 3 (58:45):
Well.
Speaker 12 (58:46):
He died in nineteen eighty three, and by nineteen eighty
nine they played that game and it was the most
emotional day ever that I've been a part of. Not
only did Auburn win the game, but they knocked Alabama.
I shot shot out of a shot to win the
national championship. If you're an Auburn fan, it didn't get
any better. And the other ones get to see the
(59:07):
great player, herschel Walker, best football player I ever saw.
Speaker 1 (59:10):
Yeah, you've you've said that on many well that I
had to pick one exactly, but I'm telling you herschel Walker,
particularly as a freshman, was the best football player.
Speaker 12 (59:23):
I always tell people when it comes to running backs
in the SEC, it is Herschel and Bow and then
everybody else.
Speaker 3 (59:29):
Okay, I love it. I love it.
Speaker 1 (59:31):
It's great, and I appreciate the fact that we got
the opportunity to talk to you. It has been one
of my bucket list types of deals. And I appreciate
the fact that we finally get a chance to have
a conversation with you. And best of luck to you
and the missus as y'all go on this journey.
Speaker 3 (59:45):
Well, thank you, Mike, I appreciate that, no problem, thank you,
all right, But there is Tony Barnhardt.
Speaker 1 (59:51):
He's making his farewell tour as he wants to say it,
and he's got a book coming out as well, so
you got to make sure you check that out. Right
here on the morning kickoff from Sports Media, I mean
from SEC Media.
Speaker 3 (01:00:02):
Days, right here in Atlanta, Georgia. We'll be right back.
Speaker 1 (01:00:06):
We talk about having a day at SEC Media Days.
You go from Tony Barnhard, mister college Football, to now
we get a chance to talk to Paul Martin, the
award winning executive director behind Netflix Formula One Drive to
Survive Full Swing, which my guy Cam is all about
(01:00:27):
in Breakpoint. And now, since we're talking college football, what
better way than a brand new SEC DOCU series called
Any Given Saturday.
Speaker 3 (01:00:38):
I mean, if you're a football fan, you gotta get
behind this project, don't you. I hope, So, I hope. So,
I mean, listen, you never know.
Speaker 10 (01:00:48):
I mean, you know, we make these shows and you
kind of throw them out there, and listen, you can
tell from my accent this kind of world is not
my natural kind of habitat.
Speaker 3 (01:00:59):
It's not football. It's not football.
Speaker 10 (01:01:00):
Yeah, but it's been fantastic, you know, and that you
know I'm really proud of the show that we've delivered,
and some folks got to see some previews of it
last night.
Speaker 3 (01:01:09):
I think the trailer dropped yesterday and this in touch.
Speaker 10 (01:01:12):
With the response has been has been really good so far,
and you know, we want people to you know this,
this show is always about trying to be additive to
the SEC, to the schools, to the programs, to the
athletes and take the audience on the inside of you know,
these amazing you know, institutions and teams and sports.
Speaker 3 (01:01:30):
So hopefully that that will be the case.
Speaker 2 (01:01:32):
Well, part of did y'all get into like one hundred
and fifty year history of it at the beginning, I mean.
Speaker 3 (01:01:39):
Touch on it a little bit.
Speaker 10 (01:01:40):
I think it's you know, I think we you know,
a big part of it is that obviously the tradition
and the pageantry of these schools, So you know, we
touch on a little bit of the kind of the
history of the SEC, but it's really focused on, you know,
getting under the skin of last year and with the
teams that kind of participate, so not too much kind
(01:02:02):
of looking back and really just more sort of character driven.
Speaker 4 (01:02:06):
F one tennis golf completely different than American football, especially
college football and as a big sports fan, but from
across the Pine, did you have any preconceived notions of
what American football was like and did working on this
project change your opinion of college football.
Speaker 10 (01:02:23):
I mean, I've been I've been a foot your football
fan for a long time.
Speaker 3 (01:02:29):
But the NFL I was.
Speaker 10 (01:02:31):
I grew up and when NFL first came to the UK,
it was around about kind of nineteen eighty six. So
you tend to get a lot of people kind of
my age that are Chicago Bears fans because of the eighty
six Bears, or Miami Dolphins fans because of Dan Marino.
I was a Miami Dolphins fan. I'm still a Miami
Dolphins fan, and I was I was huge, into huge,
(01:02:51):
into the NFL. But college college sport, and particularly college
football just always kind of passed me by slightly. I'd
never really sort of got my head around there. I
lived in the States about ten years ago and just
never really engaged in college and I love sport, I
love all sports, but it was just one of those
that I just never really connected with.
Speaker 2 (01:03:13):
So if you didn't grow up in a region, college
football is very regional.
Speaker 3 (01:03:16):
Yeah, you have Texas football you.
Speaker 2 (01:03:18):
Have Alabama football, you have California and Florida and so on,
and a lot of those, you know, regions they.
Speaker 3 (01:03:25):
Specify on one area.
Speaker 2 (01:03:28):
So there's probably just in Texas you have the Golden Triangle,
you have Houston, you have Dallas, you have the Valley,
and then you have West Texas. Like there's so many
different ones. So I mean, how would you be able
to integrate yourself into something that's so complicated?
Speaker 10 (01:03:48):
And I think that's what That's what I realized as
we got into it, exactly what you're saying. Just these
these institutions are bigger than just schools.
Speaker 3 (01:03:57):
They're so representative of the communities.
Speaker 10 (01:03:59):
I think is a line in the first episode I
think I think it's Brian Kelly that says that He's like,
you know, you go to these towns where there's supposed
to be thirty thousand people living, and ninety thousand people
turn up to watch the game.
Speaker 3 (01:04:12):
You know, it's wild.
Speaker 10 (01:04:14):
And I had no sense of that, you know, because
I hadn't grown up with it.
Speaker 3 (01:04:18):
I didn't come.
Speaker 10 (01:04:18):
From those communities, and so you know, it's been an
incredible education for me and you know, and and been
great to really dive into and really start to understand
what what what college football means to people and why.
Speaker 3 (01:04:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:04:34):
Yeah, it's unique too because of the fact that what
you said, we're talking to Paul Martin Award winning executive
producer Paul Martin parl of Martin. But I wanted to
ask you this because of the fact that how things
are getting in shape, You've learned a lot about football.
What was something that you saw that you were like,
(01:04:54):
I wish I would have known a little bit more
about that before we started this project.
Speaker 10 (01:05:00):
That's I mean, you know, I think we obviously when
we've we've come in to make this show, the whole
of college football's in a state of flux. And and
I think it was it was all at one stage
it felt like it was it was changing on a
daily basis, you know.
Speaker 3 (01:05:17):
And I think that you know, in hindsight.
Speaker 10 (01:05:20):
Probably more an understanding of what was really going on
there and the challenges we were going to face making
that show, because it's you know, it's it's like the
wild West out there in some ways, you know, with
with kind of ni a and and again, my my
understanding of it of what it was what it is
now is you know, it's very, very base level.
Speaker 3 (01:05:40):
But you know what's.
Speaker 10 (01:05:41):
Clear is that the fundamentals of college football are changing
on a, like I said, on a daily, weekly, monthly basis,
and I think everyone's wrestling with how to you know,
how to adapt.
Speaker 2 (01:05:55):
It is not as prevalent now because they're going away
from it. But a lot of the teams had mascots,
like the Houston Cougars had a real cougar and and
the Panthers had a real panther and and Happy Valley
and dogs and Bevo at University of Texas, Like, did
y'all touch on that? Like the that was the thing
(01:06:18):
about college football that I always loved as a little kid.
Speaker 10 (01:06:21):
I mean it's I think the first school that that
we went to the campus of was LSU. And you know,
they're taking us on the tour and showing us, you know,
just I mean again, mind blowing stadium facilities. You know,
the facilities, they are incredible. And then at some point
someone's like, you know, oh, do you want to you know,
do you want to go see the tiger? And I'm thinking, Okay,
(01:06:43):
it must just be a statue of a tiger.
Speaker 3 (01:06:47):
It's a real tiger. It's a real Tiger in the
middle of campus.
Speaker 4 (01:06:50):
Yeah, we've seen sports documentaries kind of evolve. I think
back to thirty for thirty or eight two thousands that
kind of really at people in the sports stocks and
then f one drathers to five really kind of right
about this new era of sports stocks, reality sports stocks, Right,
everyone's kind of bald to all these new production companies.
(01:07:13):
What do you see being the next step and evolution
of how sports is covered in terms of documentaries reality TV,
especially now with the influx of social media.
Speaker 10 (01:07:22):
Yeah, I think, you know, I think the landscape from
from when we first make Driants to Survivor has changed
in our world. You know, I think that those type
of you know, the fall behind the scenes access stocks,
I think, you know, I think it maybe peaked a
little bit, and I think people are looking at different iterations,
and I think, you know, everyone's kind of wrapping their
wrapping their arms around live at the moment because you know,
(01:07:45):
you can't you can't argue with live sport. You know, people,
it's appointment viewing. If there's a big game, you're gonna
go and you're gonna watch it. So I think there's
I think probably there's there's as technology kind of evolves
as well, I think there'll be you know, documentary and live,
which is much and and documentary will bleed into live
(01:08:06):
and live will lead kind of documentary.
Speaker 3 (01:08:09):
So I think I think you'll see some iteration of that.
Speaker 4 (01:08:13):
Is you're of a project of mine, you would do that, Paul.
Speaker 1 (01:08:21):
We want to thank you for taking the time today.
I know you're making your rounds. Uh this I can't
wait to see this because there's somebody that loves docuseries
and loves being a part.
Speaker 3 (01:08:31):
Of college football.
Speaker 1 (01:08:32):
I can't wait till for you to take us behind
the scenes and let us see exactly how this all
plays out. It's gonna be awesome. Thank you so much.
And I'm glad you got to see Mike the Tiger.
They're all live and the living color.
Speaker 3 (01:08:44):
We gotta get you to Austin so you can see Bevo. Doubt,
no doubt. Uh.
Speaker 1 (01:08:48):
When we come back, we'll close out the show and
send you to Dan Patrick MLB All Star Game.
Speaker 3 (01:08:53):
It's about to go down, but we're here.
Speaker 1 (01:08:55):
For SEC Media Days and we're gonna talk all about
it right here on the morning kickoff on Radio AM
thirteen hundred The Zone.
Speaker 3 (01:09:03):
Man, what a show that we have had no Day
two of SEC Media Days.
Speaker 1 (01:09:08):
Make sure you tune in this afternoon for the craig
Way Show Craig Way from two to five with Cam Parker.
I'll be around as well. I want to thank Joe
Cook of Inside Texas. I want to thank mister college
football Tony Barnhardt, who is taking his farewell tour as
he moves on after fifty years in the business after
(01:09:31):
this season. And of course we want to thank Paul
Martin of SEC's new docu.
Speaker 3 (01:09:37):
Series Any given Saturday.
Speaker 1 (01:09:40):
It takes a look at all of the SEC bus rides, animals,
all kinds of different things, outstanding.
Speaker 3 (01:09:50):
Outstanding stuff.
Speaker 1 (01:09:51):
And if you missed any part of the show, all
you got to do is get over to our podcast
page and of course always check it out on the
Allways Free iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 3 (01:10:04):
I want to give away some tickets.
Speaker 1 (01:10:05):
We've been talking about it and now's the time for
us to do so. Need to give away some tickets
to go see Judas Priest Alright, you know you love
Judas Priests and Alice Cooper as they get ready to
come to the Germania Amphitheater.
Speaker 3 (01:10:24):
It is something that.
Speaker 1 (01:10:25):
As you think about music right, And I know Craig
is one of those guys that truly enjoys those types
of shows with Alice Cooper and being able to see
those types of bands because he used to sell T
shirts for those that didn't know he used to sell
T shirts for a.
Speaker 3 (01:10:46):
Lot of folks during that time. Hop on, mister Craig,
let me let me just say this.
Speaker 9 (01:10:51):
I want to I heard you, guys, and fortunately it's
become a nice promo for the station as well. When
Mark was talking about biting off the bat's head and
he mistook it being Alice Cooper four for Ozzy Osbourne,
who just did his final show last week by the
way in England, I will tell you this, I think
(01:11:13):
what Mark was thinking about.
Speaker 3 (01:11:16):
And Alice Cooper used to routinely do this.
Speaker 9 (01:11:18):
My brother went to see Alice Cooper in the early
seventies and they had all kinds of wild stuff they
would do during show and have live animals on stage
and you know, the pigeons and pigs and rabbits and stuff.
They did all kinds of weird stuff. But one part
of his act was he used to or somebody used
(01:11:40):
to pass around like a big pan and they would
allow people in the concert to spit into the pan,
and then the pan makes it way upstage, and then
Alice Cooper would drink the pan.
Speaker 3 (01:11:52):
That's what I think you were thinking about. Mark.
Speaker 1 (01:11:57):
I'm so completely grossed out. Oh my goodness, now we
know better. When that pen got backstage, it got set
aside and a regular pan of water got set up
to Alice to drink it.
Speaker 3 (01:12:10):
Oh thank god. Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, there's no way
you did that, you know, even in.
Speaker 9 (01:12:14):
There COVID and all that stuff.
Speaker 3 (01:12:19):
This was in the early seventies.
Speaker 9 (01:12:20):
But uh, you know, the thing about Alice Cooper is
great golfer.
Speaker 3 (01:12:25):
Do you know that.
Speaker 9 (01:12:27):
Spokesman for Callaway for a long time. Oh my good
outstanding golfer, big time businessman as well. So uh but yeah,
you put Judas priests in Alex You got all that.
Speaker 3 (01:12:40):
That's the only Judish priest song I think I could name.
Speaker 9 (01:12:43):
You could probably another thing coming, uh Living after Midnight,
The Living After?
Speaker 3 (01:12:51):
Okay, yeah, I would have to hear the song before.
Speaker 9 (01:12:56):
Well we one time you were talking about my concert,
teacher Vindig, he's one time it worked to show with
Judas Priest, Iron Maiden and the Scorpions all on one
bill a Scorpions.
Speaker 1 (01:13:07):
That's done, Coach Steve Alston, Yeah, man, he loved that.
Speaker 3 (01:13:12):
So that's what I was thinking.
Speaker 9 (01:13:13):
I was thinking, well, maybe Mark's thinking of Alice Cooper
passing around the pan for everybody to spit in concerts
and then he.
Speaker 3 (01:13:20):
Drank the pan on safe.
Speaker 9 (01:13:21):
You know that was swapped out by the time it
made because.
Speaker 3 (01:13:25):
I don't understand how you could be because you couldn't
even kill him. Yeah, his immunity be out the door exactly.
Speaker 1 (01:13:33):
Well, we're gonna give you a chance to win a
pair of tickets to go see Alice Cooper or Judas
Priest right now, October to twenty fifth Germania Insurance Amphitheater.
All you have to do is get over to the
iHeartRadio app, tap that red microphone and leave the keyword
of the day, Frankenstein. Frankenstein is the key word of
the day for you to get a chance to win
a pair of tickets.
Speaker 3 (01:13:54):
Craig, what you got going on the show today?
Speaker 9 (01:13:56):
We're gonna visit with the coach a right every year
I have an opportunity to visit with Sarkt at the
SEC media days before that big twelve Media Day, so
I'll have a one on one with him. Obviously it's
going to be a derby and craziness with arch and
and and even with taff and and and Anthony Hill
(01:14:19):
and Anthony Hill h. But we'll endeavor to hear from
those guys. Sarks news conference itself, the general Session, we'll
plan to bring that to folks if it works out live,
will do a live or we'll do it just right
after after it airs. So so, yeah, this is Texas Day,
so we plan to be steeped in it. Yeah, of
course of the day, and we'll hear from others too.
(01:14:40):
We'll hear from Kirby Smart today since it's Georgia's day
as well.
Speaker 1 (01:14:43):
Yeah, it's an exciting time here at SEC Media Days.
We are in Atlanta, Georgia, Craig Wayshell two to five today.
You heard the list, you heard the rundown, exciting, exciting times.
Speaker 3 (01:14:54):
Tomorrow we're gonna try to.
Speaker 1 (01:14:56):
Get our guy, Billy Lucci of Text Eggs.
Speaker 3 (01:14:59):
Why do you keep moving closer to me?
Speaker 1 (01:15:01):
Man?
Speaker 14 (01:15:02):
Because the cameras no, no, no, cragded this is this
is something that I have had a tough time with
the spacing. Every time I get real close to this
comfort there, not that he's not comfort in his own masculinity.
Speaker 1 (01:15:22):
He thinks that he thinks that I'm going to grab
him because a couple of times like put my hands
on him and he's like.
Speaker 9 (01:15:29):
Man, hands shift to do bodily harm exactly.
Speaker 3 (01:15:34):
Sometimes he's not trying to do bodily harm. Crag. That's
what that's what that strength is.
Speaker 1 (01:15:39):
You know your parents tell you to stay away from
the dudes with the strength, Like, look at these dudes.
They're carrying all that stuff around. Mark will carry that
with one finger.
Speaker 3 (01:15:48):
Yeah. So I was with one of his.
Speaker 1 (01:15:50):
Buddies yesterday and the dude said, I thought I was
bad until Mark put his hands on me and was like, yeah,
I'm not as bad as I thought I was. Sometimes
you got to punch the brakes a little bit. So
Mark quit being a space violin for my man, Craig
Craig Way, for Cam Parker doing what he does, Mark Henry,
and for Marcus back at the studios.
Speaker 3 (01:16:09):
We'll be better.
Speaker 1 (01:16:10):
Tomorrow because we will be back here at SEC Media days.
Speaker 3 (01:16:14):
But make sure you.
Speaker 1 (01:16:15):
Tune in this afternoon for yeah, and it's tight on you.
Speaker 3 (01:16:19):
It's about the bus. Yeah, make sure you tune in
this afternoon, and.
Speaker 1 (01:16:25):
As always, if you can't watch us on the stream,
make sure you always use that free iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 3 (01:16:32):
And we'll be better tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (01:16:35):
And just remember, don't believe everything you see, because Mark's
hands are heavy.
Speaker 3 (01:16:39):
Peace.
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