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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Radio AM thirteen hundred The Zone. As I told you
a little while ago, the Hall of Honor will be
for Texas Athletics will be announced at ten a m.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Today.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
You can go The list of the honors will be
at Texaslonghorns dot com. Make sure you get over to
Texas Longhorns dot com. We just got an opportunity to
talk to one of the inductees and that is Cat Bell.
What a fun, fun interview. And we go to another
member of this twenty twenty six class of thirteen individuals.
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He is a special, special one. He was here on
the forty Acres from nineteen ninety eight to two thousand
and one. He was a dominant force on the offensive line.
He was one of the premier players in mac Brown's
first recruiting class at the University of Texas. He went
on to be the number four pick overall. He's six
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foot six, three hundred and forty five pound lineman and
was a consistent a consensus first team All American.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
He is the one, the only Mike Williams.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Good morning, Mike, and congratulations big fella, on getting yourself
inducted into the Hall of Honor.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
I appreciate it. I appreciate it very much.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
And another you t athlete. That's not hard to look at.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Pause, man, because man, what you're talking about?
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Man, Man, I'm just saying looking to do his hands
on absolutely.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
Hey, don't let him hate, Yeah, big.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Mike, Hey, listen, man, you can't. You'll claim the thing
with me. And I'm a technique guy. And your hand
placement and your ability to engage and disengage. It's been
a long time since Texas had somebody like you. You
ever thought about teaching that technique?
Speaker 4 (02:27):
I'm trying to teach you right now. So I'm at
our local high school. I volunteer over there, and so
I'm trying to teach that to the young boys.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
You know.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
Uh, and you know, it's just it's it's an honor
to try to teach the next generation of.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
The things that I've learned.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
And but you know, like I said, the young boys,
we got to get right now. I get let's get
right now. Sometimes you got to go old school. They
want to do this new school stuff. I don't know
about that. I'm still old school. Let's let's get our
hands right, let's get our feet right. And if you're
gonna be big, we gotta move. Okay, you got the
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dance out there, because them boys coming off the edge quick.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Mike.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
We were talking about it when you when you first
got to the University of Texas. Obviously you had Leonard
Davis next to you, and and I don't understand how
anybody got into the backfield on that side of the ball.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
On that STATEEA line. That's right, That's what that was
the beautiful part about it. But I wanted to ask
you because every day we're talking about it.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Now we're looking at the Texas offensive line and the
discussions and everything that's going on with that.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
But it's iron sharpening iron.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
You looked at Leonard, and Leonard looked at you, and
y'all became this force. How important is that for the
offensive line to truly understand the dominance that you can
impose on people when both of you or the entire
line is working together.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
So, you know, when I look back at it, you
know our years with me Leonard obviously, Derek Dockery was
in there, Antoine kirk Hughes was in there. So we
had a we had a you know, we were big
and so we had a line that could move. But
the most important thing when you're talking about the office lineman,
you got to be able to trust your brothers. We're
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brothers on the line. We got to move and sink.
Our footwork has to work. We got to communicate down
the line. I got to know what my guard's doing.
The senate guys know what the guard's doing and the other.
So we got to work in sync. And so once
you have that, and you have that ability as an
office line to work as a unit, you know, you
can dominate the entire game.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
The trenches.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
You know, we used to love the four minute, you know,
come down, four minute, we up, or we're going to
try to grind them down. So we were pushing the
guys over and we're just moving the ball at will
when we wanted to. And so we didn't have to
sit back on our heels. Let try the people send
you know, blitzes or something like.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
That at us.
Speaker 4 (04:59):
So it's very important for the office line to have
that unit, that unity amongst each other. And you know,
it wasn't about Leonard's doing you know, Leonard's doing his
thing and he's gonna get this. It's you know, you know,
iron sharpens irons like you just said. So you know,
when one succeeds, we all succeed. And so that's how
we have to go in as a unit. And so uh,
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you know, and that's what you know, with Leonard doing
that and seeing his ability to go where he went
as far as in the drift, I was like, man,
I have an opportunity to do it too, right, and
I want to do that, and you know, and it
just didn't start with me like Derek wanted to do it.
And then uh andoye, you know, you know, and so
we just we just as a unit, man, were just
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like you know, practice was hard, but we we took
it together.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
One of my favorite things about you was the grip
and that grip that you you had where you would
engage people and then you would move your hands when
they got ready to shop you and the You would
think that it would just be the grip, but it's not.
It's the feet. You have to be able to move
your feet to go match where your hands are. Like,
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where did you learn that? Was that something that you
learned that Texas or did you learn that before you
came here?
Speaker 3 (06:19):
Oh? Man, I learned it.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
There was a couple of spots that I learned to
that because when I was younger, I played soccer.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
I don't know how many people even knew that I played.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
That's where it is, that fact that foot movement.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
Yeah, so the foot movement and the soccer. And then
I was always you know, one of the growing up,
my friends like to play a lot of basketball, so
I tried to be on the court with him.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
Now I was growing much faster than they were.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
So you know, you know, so we were you know,
so I started I started at the younger age as
far as footwork, you know. And that's something that you
know for every child trying to you know, be have
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success at the high school level, then move on to
the college level. Uh and ultimately hopefully they get to
the NFL of it.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Man.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
We always start with the footwork, and that's where I
started with soccer and stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
And then when I got to.
Speaker 4 (07:19):
The University of Texas, they all they had to do
is just enhance that. They enhanced it with you know,
their training, their movements and stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
Uh the one you know, mad Dog was out.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
There doing this thing, and so it became it got better,
It got much better. So it was a combination of
me being younger and the sports of that played.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
I just didn't do one sport. I just wouldn't football.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
I was basketball, football, I even play a little softball.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
Terrible at it, but uh but I did. And so
you know that that got me well rounded.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
And you know that kind of came out as far
as being at the University of Texas and for them
to you know, to enhance it and you know, help.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
Me get to the level that I got to.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
I got a question for you. First off, we're talking
to Mike Williams. Michael Williams. He's gonna be inducted into
the Hall of Honor on September the eighteenth. It will
take place right before Texas takes on UTSA. Get over
and get your tickets at Texaslonghorns dot com. Texas Longhorns
dot Com. Let me ask you this because you got
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three children and one of your children and this is
gonna be good for mister Mark Henry because this is
one I'm gonna let y'all have this conversation. You have
one that is training for wrestling. She has really been
getting after it. I know you've been traveling with her,
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but talk to me about your daughter and her accomplishments
in wrestling.
Speaker 4 (08:57):
Oh, Man, don't tear out, don't don't.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Man, So we know what it is.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
Girl dad, I'm a girl dad. Oh she's my youngest.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
So even right now as I'm talking to you, right now,
I'm out of state right now with her, uh at
a camp she's training wrestling and uh so Mia. Her
coach is actually Jordan Burrows and so we're right now
with Yeah, we're right now with JB his camp here
in New Jersey and she trains under him and she Mann, Man,
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see y'all trying to get she has.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
She has way.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
More dedication than I ever did growing up, way more
dedication to the sport. And one of the things that
you know she started with was footwork, was just crazy.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
I don't know, so is her footwork is crazy right now.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
And so she is, like I said, she trained with
Jordan Burrows and now she just she just literally came
out as the number one in the nation fourteen year
girl wrestler. And she works very hard at what she does.
She puts a lot of hours in uh, she does
a lot of traveling. We travel everywhere. She's been all
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over the United States just competing. And when you talk
about iron, sharp and iron, it's just it just doesn't
stop with football. It's in your personal life. It's in
any kind of career that you want to get. Iron
is always gonna shop it. Sometimes you got to go
out and seek it. Sometimes it's not in your backyard.
And so I've dedicated myself, me and my wife, and
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you know, this is a dream that she wants to
get to the Olympics. And she definitely has a great
coach in her corner. And we have gone all over
the country seeking that iron that's going to push her. Know,
and I always tell I said, don't be afraid to lose.
Losing is just part of the game. There's no great champion.
You learn more, you learn a lot more. It's hard
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to teach somebody that always wins. It's hard to teach
because then they stopped trying to listen. What I got
to listen because I always win. She is, uh the
one oh five, she's between one o five one ten,
and right now we're just currently moving up to one
ten because we Hey, we want to get up there
because eventually she's going to have to as she give
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gets older. She's only thirteen, that she's going to go
up and to higher weight classes and we want her
to compete.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
Against the best.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
And there's there's there's very good wrestlers out there and
we don't shoy with And she does the boys, she
does girls.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
And let me tell you something.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
She she she went out there and the boys middle
school as sixth grader won the city championship. That was
that was a proud moment. That was a proud moment
for her. And it was detrimental for that that the
young man kids.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Yeah, never is never gonna get over it.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
Hey, I'm not gonna put the name out there, but
it was because it had the spotlight on the mat,
they had everything on there.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
It was it was, it was, it was, it was crazy.
And man, she went out there and won it, and
I never I don't really see her used.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
She doesn't have a lot of emotion on the mat,
but when she wins something that's really tough that you know,
like her nationals, and she has she has a bunch
of nationals.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
But when she won that man, she let her emotion out.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
It was just so, it was so I was honored
to see that and what I poured into and what
she's poured in herself, and she ended up getting that
and she just let her emotions go, and Dad was proud,
and I was nervous.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
I was so nervous. I ain't gonna lie. I was nervous. Hey, listen,
I feel bad.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
But other kids, Mike, I'm them kids like you going
there with my daughter. I'm I'm for you, right, no mercy,
I'm gonna send you a video of my daughter beating
this boy.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
And so Mark Mark's daughter is a wrestler as well,
and she's been a champion.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Just came back from Fargo.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
Uh. Finished twelve at Fargo.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Uh. She's a sophomore, so she's got four years. But
she's she's a she's a one fifty two or one
well one fifty uh five but they changed the classes.
But she's uh, she's she's a beast and uh I
see uh just looking at your face and hearing the
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emotion in your voice of how proud you are that
they did something and they don't have nothing to do
with you. It was just them doing it.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
Yep. Yeah, that's what it's all about.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Something you did, something you did it do is get
yourself inducted into the Hall of Honor. And I'm excited
for you, man, I'm happy for you.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
I'm proud of you.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
And I know that the listeners have been hitting us
up and they're saying the exact same thing.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
You are a beast on the field. You seem to
be a beast as a father.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
So continued success and congratulations on being inducted into the
Hall of Honor at the Universe Regulations.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
Thank you, man, appreciate it. Thanks for taking the time, brother,
and stay on that road all right. Brother. There is
Mike Williams.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
He's getting inducted along with thirteen other members. The complete
lists will be announced at ten am today. You can
see that list on Texas Longhorns dot com.