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 England continues to see massive waves of violent crime, despite banning guns years ago. Actor Idris Elba believes he's found a solution: banning pointy kitchen knives. Banning pointy kitchen knives. I'm not kidding, that's his big idea. 
 Charlie Kirk's memorial service was last Sunday. We’ll dig into some of the highlights of the service, and the powerful messages preached by members of the administration, and Charlie's widow, Erika Kirk. 

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(01:27):
of this and that sprinkled around, so just wanted to
put that out there, a little bit of self promotion
to kick things off. Now, let's talk about probably the
least important thing I'll talk about today, and that is
Jimmy Kimmel. We talked about him in detail on the
Sunday Show. We're talking talking about him again because he's
back in the news. So we were talking about how

(01:47):
he had basically been fired by ABC and definitely suspended
was the word that they used. And this follows Next
Star and Sinclair Media Group both saying we're not going
to air this guy's show. So the way it works
is he works for the ABC network, right, he works
for ABC as an ABC produced show. Now, ABC produced

(02:12):
shows are ran on ABC stations obviously, and some of
those stations, while owned by ABC are operated by either
Next Star or Sinclair, not all of them. Some are
directly ABC owned and operated, but a huge portion of them,
fifty eight I think different ABC stations are operated by

(02:34):
Sinclair Media Group and or Nextstar. Actually it's or Nexttar.
I don't think they have any They don't work together
at all. But they originally, after Jimmy Kimmel outright lied
and said Charlie Kirkshooter was some sort of maga Republican,

(02:55):
they said, Okay, We're not gonna air Jimmy Kimmel's show
until we see some some change. And so that's fifty
eight of their stations. There's a lot of public blowbacks.
So Disney just says, okay, we are in definitely suspending
Jimmy Kimmel, and then they come back on Monday and say,
never mind, he's coming back on Tuesday evening. So he
did his first broadcast back on Tuesday, and I didn't

(03:19):
watch it last night because nobody did. I don't care
about Jimmy Kimmel. I don't the only reason I'm talking
about this is because he's made it worth talking about.
So ABC and or not ABC, Sinclair and Next Star
are both still continuing they're preempting of Jimmy Kimmel. So

(03:43):
we talked about this on kat H. Jimmy Kimmel is
back as far as ABC is concerned, but a little
bit farther down the line, he's still not really back.
So I just felt like it was interesting to put
that on your radar. I just want to give you
that update about Jimmy Kimmel. Not that really you care,
because again, I don't think anybody really cares about Jimmy Kimmel,

(04:04):
but it's interesting to see that despite the Left trying
very hard to uncancel this guy, he's still facing a
huge amount of blowback. So I just wanted to point
that out. I just thought it was interesting. You know,
it's not super important. What I actually really wanted to
talk about this week was this video that I saw
of Idris Elba. I like Idris Elba. I'm a fan

(04:27):
of lot of his acting work. I think he's a
pretty good actor. He's also apparently an idiot, which is
something I learned recently. So we've gone over on a
number of occasions on the show. The massive amount of
knife crime, the stabbings and whatnot that are happening in England,
because the dirty little secret is it's not the guns.

(04:48):
It's actually just crime, and if they can't do crime
with a gun, they'll do it with a knife instead.
England hasn't figured that out yet. So now here is
Idris Elba saying, well, if we've told these knife crimes,
I guess we'll just have to take the points off
of kitchen knives. I'm not kidding. That's his solution to crime.
We banned guns, that didn't solve crime. Okay, well we've
banned most knives. Okay, people are just using kitchen knives now,

(05:09):
all right, Well we'll just take the tips off of
kitchen knives so you can't stab people with the kitchen knife. Okay,
guess what. You can still cut people with a kitchen knife.
Here's the interest Elba saying this stupid thing.

Speaker 3 (05:18):
The truth is is that kitchen knives are perhaps twenty
five percent of the knives used in most of the
terrible crimes. That's one of the stats in the films.
And those kitchen knives are usually a domestic situation. Okay, um,
so kitchen knives, of course, it's very difficult their domestic knife.
I do think there is areas of innovation that we

(05:41):
can do with kitchen knives. I hate to say, not
all kitchen knives need to have a point on them.

Speaker 2 (05:46):
That sounds that's your innovation, That that's innovation. Hey, how
do we innovate to solve crimes? Well, we could take
this thing that we've had around for a thousand years
and it's literally perfect and make it worse. What a genius.

Speaker 3 (06:02):
It's like a crazy thing to say, but actually it
would reduce you know, you can still cut your food
without the point on the knife, which is an innovative
way to sort of look at it. And in a
country in crisis, I'm sorry, but yeah, let's look at that.
But the truth is all knives. You know, the loophole
on the heritage knives allows the sale of zombie ninja

(06:24):
swords to be sold. So while you know you've got
your granddad's sword on there and you want that as fine,
of course, but it is leaving a loophole for someone
to carry a ninja sword. So let's ban them all
and if you need, if you have one of those knives,
get a license for it. Simple as that, And I think.

Speaker 2 (06:42):
That that's your solution. Get a license for it. So
let me get this straight. England's knife problem is so
bad that their solution is we need to just ban
points on kitchen knives, and if you have like a
family heirloom sword, that now has to you have to

(07:04):
have a license for that. I have three swords in
my house right now as we speak. I don't have
a license for any of them, and every single one.
I could throw it on my hip right now and
open carry it in the streets of Texas and it's
completely legal to do that. I know because I looked
it up and I have done it before in the past,
just because I'm silly like that. We do not have
a major stabbing problem. We just have a violence problem.

(07:27):
And sooner or later they're gonna figure this out. I
don't know when it will be, but eventually they're gonna
get to the point where we've banned everything we could
possibly ban and people are just stabbing each other with pens.
I hope England figures this out sooner rather than later,
but I feel like it's probably gonna be later. All right, Listen,
We've got a lot more to talk about. Charlie Kirk's
funeral was on Sunday. We're gonna dig into that quite

(07:48):
a bit. A lot of good speeches there, so stay tuned.
We'll be right back with more of the next general report. Alrighty,

(08:21):
let's talk about Charlie's funeral, memorial service, celebration of life,
whatever you want to call it. I'm not picky about titles.
I watched the entire thing. I spent a good deal
of my Sunday afternoon until I had to turn it
off to do my show prep, and then of course
the show on Sunday evening. But I watched the vast

(08:43):
majority of it, and then I went back and saw
everything that I had missed afterwards, and I got to say,
that was one of the most truly amazing things that
I have ever witnessed in my entire life. And I'm
gonna explain to you why we had I'll throw out
the conservative estimate and say just one hundred thousand people there.

(09:06):
They booked out the State Farm Stadium in Glendale, Arizona,
which seats about seventy three thousand, and they packed that
sucker full, real full. You can see it in the videos.
That thing is full. And then they had a decently
filled overflow arena next door. So we'll say one hundred

(09:27):
thousand people just there. Now. They also streamed it online
on multiple platforms, and then of course Fox News carried
it basically all day, and then a number of other
stations tuned in at key points when key figures and
the administration were speaking. So it's really impossible to judge

(09:51):
exactly how many people viewed that memorial service, but I
think it's fair to say it was at least a
couple hundred million, for sure, just based off of the
Fox News audience and then the Turning Point USA Twitter,
and then the Turning Point USA YouTube, and then all
the other different places it was live streamed, and then
people who tuned in and out, and then one hundred

(10:12):
thousand people who were there. It was amazing to see.
There was a lot of people there, and there was
a lot of frankly worship there. I mean, for four
or five hours, they were just singing worship songs. They
had a praise band up there, led by Chris Tomlin
and a couple of other notable kind of evangelical music figures,

(10:36):
and there was a lot of singing of both hymns
and contemporary gospel music, and there was a lot of
preaching at that event. Basically every single person that got
up there to speak, including members of the administration, delivered
some form of a gospel message, with some exceptions, not everybody,

(10:57):
but most did. It was it was a really powerful
thing to see. It really was, especially if even if
you're not a person of faith, and even if you
didn't know who Charlie was, it was objectively obviously a
powerful thing to see. And then if you're someone like
myself who is a person of faith and you are
familiar with Charlie Kirk and loved his content and his message,

(11:19):
then times ten that. But long story short, it was
a really amazing event. But of course, like everything else,
the left had to lose their minds about it. Here's
this guy, Destiny, he's a kind of political streamer almost
he's very liberal, says true. This Charlie Kirk memorial is

(11:40):
indistinguishable from a Nazi rally. And if anyone who wants
to pretend it's not, he is retarded, apparently is what
that appears to be. Because it's impossible to have watched
that and come away with, oh, yeah, these guys are Nazis.
It's quite literally impossible. You have to be brain dead
or just intentionally lying. But I mean, this guy's a liberal,

(12:03):
and the most important thing that he's known for is
letting other men sleep with his wife. I'm not even kidding.
That's kind of how he made his name. So I
don't encourage you to look into that, but that's who
this guy is. He's very known in online liberal circles
as sort of their internet personality, but he truly is
an idiot. But so here's what I want to do.

(12:27):
I mean, there's a bunch of memes in here that'll
directly refute his claims, but I'm gonna do it just
by showing you what actually happened. I'm gonna show you
some of the highlights of Charlie Kirk's funeral. First of all,
there's this which when it's the lyrics to how Great
Thou Art? And the video is them singing how great

(12:48):
Thou Art. I'm not gonna play it because I don't
want to get copies struck or copyright struck, but it's
them singing how great thou Art? It's really good. It's
a really good performance. And then they posted the lyrics
when christ shall come with shots of acclamation and take
me home? What joy shall fill? My heart. Then I
shall balow in humble adoration, and there proclaim my God,
how great thou art. Let me remind you that this

(13:10):
is an official White House account. See that is that
right there up in the top corner. If you're listening,
you can't see it, but that's their official government verification
tag at the top, that little gray check mark. This
is an official White House government account tweeting out the
lyrics to a classic hymn. Don't tell me elections don't matter.

(13:32):
Don't tell me you didn't want to vote for Trump
because you know he's not a real question. Be that
as it may. Even if he isn't, which I think
the jury's out, nobody can really know that. But at
the very least he has staffed his administration and his
White House with true believers. And even if he hasn't,
even if these are people just tweeting this out for

(13:54):
the optics, almost a million people have seen this tweet
of a classic him. People are seeing the gospel because
of this, huge amounts of people who maybe would not
have seen it before. So praise God for that. Speaking
of here is the Secretary of State, the Secretary of

(14:16):
State for all of you, saying separation of church and state. No,
we have to keep religion and government separate. Shut the
hell up. No we don't. We have never done that
in the history of this country until maybe thirty forty
years ago. It's a lie. And here is the Secretary
of State actively preaching the Gospel to at least one

(14:37):
hundred thousand people, if not a hundred million.

Speaker 4 (14:41):
Take a listen his deep belief that we were all created,
every single one of us, before the beginning of time,
by the hands of the God of the universe and
all powerful God, who loved us and created us for the.

Speaker 5 (14:55):
Purpose of living with him in eternity. But then sin
entered the world and separated us.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
From our creator.

Speaker 5 (15:01):
And so God took on the form of a man
and came down and lived among us, and he suffered
like men, and he died like a man.

Speaker 2 (15:11):
But on the third day he rose unlike any mortal
man then years.

Speaker 5 (15:20):
And to prove any doubters wrong, he ate with his
disciples so they could see, and they touched his wounds.
He didn't rise as a ghost or as a spirit,
but his flesh.

Speaker 2 (15:29):
And then he rose to the heaven. But he promised
he would.

Speaker 5 (15:32):
Return, and he will and when he returns, because he
took on that death, because he carried that cross, we
were freed from the.

Speaker 2 (15:40):
Sin that separated us from him.

Speaker 5 (15:41):
And when he returns, there will be a new heaven
and a new earth, and we will all be together,
and we are going to have a great reunion there again.

Speaker 2 (15:50):
With Charlie and all the people we love. Thank you
with God bless you.

Speaker 6 (15:56):
All.

Speaker 2 (15:56):
Right. So, just in case you weren't fully aware of
what you just watched or listen to, that is the
sitting secretary of State preaching a fantastic summary of the
Gospel to one hundred thousand people inside of a football
stadium live stream before millions. Don't tell me elections don't matter.

(16:19):
Don't tell me you can't vote for Trump because of
his moral past, because of some of his character flaws,
which is something I've heard from a lot of folks
in evangelical circles. Oh but look at all these things
he did wrong. I don't care. Are they good?

Speaker 7 (16:37):
No?

Speaker 2 (16:38):
Is Donald Trump a perfect moral example?

Speaker 7 (16:40):
No?

Speaker 2 (16:40):
But you know what Donald Trump did do? He gave
us a secretary of state that will preach the gospel
to millions of people. You think we would have gotten
that with Kamala Harris. This is why elections matter. This
is why Christians cannot sit on the sidelines. You have
no excuse. I don't want to hear any of this

(17:01):
nonsense that we hear all the time from religious folks
sitting here saying, oh, there are no good options, so
I just won't vote. There are honest to God people
out there who if Jesus Christ himself doesn't return and
run on the Republican Party, they will shit out an election.

(17:24):
I'm not kidding. Those people are out there. I've met them,
I know them. I'm sick of them. We had this Sunday,
probably the greatest display of Christian nationalism that has occurred
since the writing of the Declaration of Independence. This is amazing,
and we're just getting started. I got a lot more
to show you. This continued throughout the entire day, and

(17:46):
I'm really fired up about it. I'm excited and I'm
happy for it. So stay tuned. We're gonna be right
back with a whole lot more of this. All right,

(18:16):
Continuing with our discussion of Charlie Kirk's memorial service, I
want to play you a couple more clips from some
administration officials and then we'll talk about Erica Kirk's speech,
which was also unbelievable, like truly unbelievable. I want to
encourage you to go listen to all of these I'm

(18:39):
playing you clips and cuts. If you go to this
rapid Response forty seven Twitter account, you can find basically
each administration official who spoke. You can find their full remarks.
Go listen to them because they're all very good. But
I want to play you before anything else. Pete Hegseeth's remarks,

(19:01):
which were just unbelievable. Even in the first minute. He
started out really strong. So take a listen to this.
Charlie Kirk.

Speaker 8 (19:11):
A patriot, a conservative, a leader, a builder, an advocate,
an author, a lover of freedom, a husband, a father,
a Christian, and a warrior. You see, Charlie Kirk was
a true believer for the cause of freedom, for the

(19:32):
power of young people, belief in our republic and our
founding principles in America first and make America great again.
But more importantly, he was a true believer. Only Christ
is King, our Lord and Savior. Our sins are washed

(20:02):
away by the blood of Jesus. Fear God and fear
no man.

Speaker 2 (20:10):
And then the crowd goes bananas. That is again, I
can't tell you how cool that is. There is no
limit to how cool that is. Do you have any
idea what you just saw? The United States Secretary of
War just declared before one hundred thousand people that Christ
is Lord, Fear God, and fear no man, God bless it.

(20:35):
That is the country I want to live in. I
want to live in a country where the Secretary of
War gets up before one hundred thousand people and says,
you can kill us, but we're not afraid of you
because we serve Christ. And that's what we've got in
this administration. That's what we have. We have, I believe,

(20:57):
truly flawed men, because every man truly is very flawed,
but they are being used by Christ and they know that.
It's just awesome. It's really cool it is. And that's why, Like,
if you are the type of person that just say, oh, well,
all of these canons have all these issues that I

(21:18):
don't like, so I'm not going to vote at all,
You're an idiot. Anyway, here's Robert F. Kennedy Junior. He actually,
I think had a very very good speech. Just because
I was surprised to hear it come from him. He
didn't exactly strike me as the type of guy that
would be as religious as he at least appeared to

(21:41):
be in this speech. So take a listen to this,
and then we're going to talk about it.

Speaker 6 (21:46):
Charlie's overarching passion was his Christianity and his devotion to
his God. He believed what Saint Francis taught us almost
a thousand years ago. We should strive to live our
lives in perfect imitation of Christ. We should turn every

(22:09):
day and every moment and every interaction into a prayer.
And Charlie understood the great paradox, and it's only by
surrender to God that God's power can flow into our
lives and make us effective human beings. Charlie Christ died

(22:30):
at thirty three years old, but he changed the trajectory
of history. Charlie died at thirty one years old because
he had surrendered. He also now has changed the trajectory
of history.

Speaker 2 (22:47):
And I think that's true. I think Charlie Kirk really
has and I think most people can kind of feel this.
There has been a shift, right. I mean, I'm not
crazy for saying this. I'm not the only one who
feels this there's been a major somewhere switch that has flipped,
and we'll get into that a little bit with JD.

(23:08):
But before we dig into that, I want to talk
real quick about rfk's comments there. He actually did a
very good job of, I think, kind of summarizing almost
or explaining a little bit a more complicated Bible passage.
So I'm gonna show to you real quick this was

(23:29):
I think what's at the heart of what Robert F.
Kennedy Junior said. This is first Thessalonians five sixteen through eighteen.
Rejoice always pray without ceasing, Give thanks in all circumstances,
for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus
for you. So that's a little bit complicated, right, What
does that mean? Rejoice always pray without ceasing? How do

(23:51):
you do that? There's a lot of different interpretations of that.
When people say pray without ceasing, there are those that
would say that means you should like literally constantly be
like physically, you know, kneeling on the ground, saying a
prayer constantly twenty four to seven as much as you can,
and you should do that as much as you can.

(24:12):
But I don't think that's what this passage is telling
you to literally do. I think what it says, rejoice
always and pray without ceasing it. It's more of it's
less of a literal prayer and more of you should
be serving Christ and working towards Christ at every given moment.
It kind of goes back to you know, all that

(24:33):
you do, do it for the Lord, that kind of philosophy.
I think this is just another way of saying that,
and I think RFK Junior does a good job of
kind of saying like, yeah, that's kind of what this means,
and that's what Charlie Kirk was doing. That's what I
got out of that. It's a little bit more theologically
deep when you actually look at it, which I think

(24:53):
again is very neat, because yeah, is that gonna just
kind of hit some people and gloss right over, for sure.
But there are also those out there that are going
to see elected officials actually kind of touching on and
dancing around some complicated theological topics. And I think that's
a great thing to see. I really do. All Right,

(25:14):
let's talk a little bit about Vice President JD. Vancy speech,
because again we talked about the switch flipping and I'm
not the only one who's kind of felt that switch flip.
You may have noticed. I've mentioned my Christian faith and
Christ in the Gospel more times in the several episodes
since Kirk was murdered than I think and probably the

(25:35):
rest of the show combined. And it's not that I've
tried to steer away from my Christian faith by no means.
It's just, for whatever reason, it just hasn't come up.
But now it feels like something I have to talk about.
And I think a lot of people feel the same way,
and JD. Vance does too. Here he is saying that
at Charlie Kirk's funeral, I.

Speaker 9 (25:53):
Was telling somebody backstage that I always felt a little
uncomfortable talking about my faith in public. As much as
I loved the Lord and as much as it was
an important part of my life, I have talked more
about Jesus Christ in the past two weeks than I
have my entire time in public life.

Speaker 2 (26:18):
And one hundred thousand people.

Speaker 9 (26:21):
Sure, and that is an undeniable legacy of the great
Charlie Kirk. You know, he loved God, and because he

(26:44):
loved God, he wanted to understand God's creation and the
men and women made in his image.

Speaker 1 (26:51):
I was.

Speaker 2 (26:54):
It's amazing to see it really is. Because again I
cannot say this enough.

Speaker 7 (27:01):
JD.

Speaker 2 (27:01):
Vance is not the only person that feels that way
right now, Lord Willing, that feeling will never go away,
and that is, like JD points out, that is a
powerful testimony to who Charlie Kirk was, to what his
legacy will be. He will be known as a martyr

(27:21):
for the Christian faith. He will because at the very
center of everything that he did was he was just
speaking objective Christian truths and he was assassinated for it
while doing it. A lot of people don't understand this.
A lot of these social issues they're not just social issues,
they're faith issues. A lot of these political issues they're

(27:44):
not just political issues, they're faith issues. Things like the
you know, the Texas Ten Commandments law. I'm sure we'll
talk about that in detail in the future, but that's
been up for debate recently. People have been talking about that,
the fact that Texas public schools now require you to
display the Ten Commandments in every single classroom. That's a

(28:06):
faith issue. Things like hey, men are men and women
are women, that's a faith issue. It isn't just political
the fact that hey, people have a right to defend
themselves and a right to speak freely. Those aren't just
political issues. Those are faith issues. We've kind of gotten
to this point where we look at faith in politics

(28:29):
like there's a disconnect, and we kind of close our
mind and misinterpret I think oftentimes intentionally passages by the
Founding Fathers to try to make it out like that's
what they wanted. No, it's not. It's not it's not
what the Founding Fathers wanted. It's not what God wants.
Get rid of that divide. There is no faith and

(28:51):
political issues. There's only faith issues and how they work
out in the political world. All Right, we're gonna talk
about Erica's Kirk's speech in this last segment, so it
stay tuned. All right, let's close things out strong. I'm

(29:21):
gonna try to get through as much as I can
here in this segment, but there's a lot I need
to talk about before we close out, And there's a
lot of things on other topics that I just didn't
get to. I ended up spending way more time on
this memorial service than I originally planned to, just because
there's so much that's so good. And if you haven't
seen all of it, if you haven't watched every single

(29:41):
moment of this service, you are missing out quite a bit.
So I encourage you to do that. It's still on YouTube,
it's still on x Go watch it. Take the time.
Maybe you feel like you need to skip through the
four hours of worship music that's in there, fair enough,
Go listen to the speeches. They're meaningful, they're impactful, they're amazing.
None is more amazing than this one. This is Erica

(30:05):
Kirk getting up and speaking. This is her just a
baffling moment where she forgives live on national television the
man who just eleven days prior assassinated her husband. And

(30:28):
we'll get into what exactly that means in a minute,
but first I want you to see it that young man.
For context, she's talking about how Charlie Kirk was going
out to basically minister to people exactly like the one
who killed him. So context, there you go. That young

(30:48):
man on the cross.

Speaker 7 (30:50):
Our Savior said, Father, forgive them for they not know
what they do.

Speaker 10 (31:04):
That man, that young man, I forgive.

Speaker 2 (31:13):
Him, and she almost breaks down. She does break down,
and it's amazing. If you're just listening, you can't really
get the full effect. So go watch it. Go pull
this up on the on the YouTube. It's it's amazing

(31:36):
to watch it. You can see it in her eyes,
how difficult it is for her. You can see the
anger and the sadness boil up inside of her, and
then you can see her in real time. It's the
most amazing thing I've ever seen in my entire life.
You can see her in real time confront that anger

(31:57):
and that hatred and the sadness and the grief and
defeat all of it and be able to go out
there and say I forgive him, and then break down
in tears. I cannot expressed you enough how amazed I
was watching that. When I tell you my jaw hit

(32:18):
the desk, I'm being one hundred percent serious. She's crying,
dabbing her eyes. The crowd is going bananas, because of
course they are. You can see they're all in tears

(32:41):
just as much as she is.

Speaker 10 (32:56):
I forgive him because it was what Christ did and
is what Charlie would do. The answer to hate is
not hate. The answer we know from the Gospel is
love and always love, love for our enemies and love

(33:18):
for those who persecute us.

Speaker 2 (33:22):
That is amazing to see her be able to say that,
just because again I cannot stress this enough. Watch it
Ethan Buchanan or the Next Gen Report on YouTube, search
it up or go on the X page. I'll upload
this whole video on X as well. You can watch
it there. It is amazing to see her do that. Truly,

(33:44):
I cannot say that enough. And then to point out
the objective, Yes, this is what Christ calls us to do.
We are called to forgive, and we are called to
overcome the sort of hatred that we might be inclined
to to feel and actually pray for it and love
our enemies. Now, I want to this juncture point you

(34:06):
back to what we had talked about a couple of
seconds ago, that idiot Destiny who said he saw this
and he thought this was a Nazi rally. Am I
missing something? Can someone tell me? In which one of
his speeches, Hitler goes, I forgive the Jews. It never happened. Ever,
So that to me is why I get so fired

(34:29):
up when I see tweets like that, Oh this was
so hateful, this was a Nazi rally. You're an idiot
You're just a damn fool. That's what you are if
you say things like that. But there's something else I
want to talk about. So she very clearly says, I
forgive him. We're called to love. The answer to hatred

(34:53):
is not hatred. We're called to love our enemies and
pray for them and forgive them. And she's right, we
are called to do that. So what is that mean?
Hold on, We've got this guy in prison. The state
of Utah is seeking the death penalty. Do we need
to undo that? Do we need to not have him
get the death penalty? What's going on here? Does this
mean we don't seek full justice? No, it does not

(35:15):
mean that. The widow is called to grieve, to love
and forgive. The magistrate is called to seek justice. She
can forgive him, she can love him, she can pray
for him. We can all do that too. This shooter.
We can pray for him and love him as well.
But we are also required to seek justice. Those two

(35:35):
things might seem to be in conflict, they're not. Michael
Knowles at the first TPUSA event after this, speaking to
a crowd that Charlie Kirk was supposed to be speaking
in front of Michael Knowles doing his best to fill
those shoes. He explains how these two things are not
in conflict, how we can love and forgive but also
still punish, and how those things are biblical and righteous.

(35:58):
Take a listen.

Speaker 11 (36:00):
Erica Kirk forgave her husband's killer. The state of Utah
will inject poison into that killer's veins until he's dead.
There is no contradiction between those two things. Christian forgiveness
does not demand that we allow the cruel to ravage

(36:23):
the whole earth. It demands that we love our enemies,
and sometimes love is tough. In our personal lives, love
means praying for those who persecute us. In politics, love
usually means punishing the guilty, both for the protection of
the innocent as well as for the good of the criminals.

(36:44):
No one benefits from crime, decay, and disorder, not the
rest of us, and not the criminals themselves. We cherish
what we call the marketplace of ideas in America.

Speaker 2 (36:57):
And then he goes on to talk about the marketplace
of ideas in America. But what he says there is
very profound. We are called to punish those who break
the law that is righteous, even in the Book of Romans,
Paul makes it clear the government has been given the
sword to wield against the wicked. That's very important. We

(37:18):
cannot forget that. There are a lot of Christians out
there that will say, no, we can't have the death penalty. No,
we must have the death penalty. We must have justice.
If you take a life, your life is forfeit. We
can pray for you, we can love on you, we
can forgive you, but there still must be punishment. And remember,

(37:38):
even when Christians die and are forgiven by the Lord
and accepted into Heaven, there is not an absence of punishment.
It's very important to point this out. You are not
the one that is punished, but there is still punishment
for your sins. Jesus took that punishment for you. It

(38:01):
isn't hey, there's no more punishment. You're forgiven. It's you
are forgiven and you don't have to be punished because I, Jesus,
have already been punished for you. I paid the debt
for your sins on the cross. So that is the
spiritual punishment. It has still been doled out. It has

(38:22):
just not been doled out on you. God demands justice.
Our legal system should expect no less. Eric or Kirk
can say I love you and I forgive you. We
as a culture need to see God bless you. That's
very strong. Thank you for doing that. We're still going
to kill this man because he has committed a crime
and we must send a message that that is not

(38:43):
allowed in this country anyway. Thank you all very much
for listening. Again, go back listen to that full or
go watch that full memorial service. It was very good
and I will see the rest of you Sunday, seven
pm on AM nine to fifty KPRC. Thank you very
much for listening to the next report to
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