November 17, 2025 • 39 mins
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The longest government shutdown in U.S. history is finally over, and the polling seems to show that the Democrats are being blamed for it. So how big of a hit will they end up taking?
With illegal immigration well on its way to being handled, and the border secure, questions are now being asked about how much and what kinds of legal immigration should be allowed.
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The longest government shutdown in U.S. history is finally over, and the polling seems to show that the Democrats are being blamed for it. So how big of a hit will they end up taking?
With illegal immigration well on its way to being handled, and the border secure, questions are now being asked about how much and what kinds of legal immigration should be allowed.
For the latest news, follow me on Instagram and X:
@the.ethanbuchanan
@_ethanbuchanan
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https://youtu.be/Y9QcIiod7F0
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
From the heart of the Space City to the heart
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Speaker 2 (00:12):
Ethan talks to you about the issues and events that
matters to our generation.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
This is the Next Gen Report.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
What's Ethan?
Speaker 4 (00:21):
You can't in that?
Speaker 5 (00:25):
Hey?
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Everybody welcome?
Speaker 4 (00:28):
Ah?
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Righty? What do we got today? What don't we have?
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Trump is in trouble again with his base. A bunch
of people on the right are pissed off. I'm just
gonna come out and say it. I think this is
much adoe about nothing, and we'll explain why a little
bit later in the show.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
So stay tuned.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
We're gonna be talking about all of that. What exactly
Donald Trump said to aggravate his base. We're gonna be
talking about housing because why not, the deficit, immigration, how
all of that kind of comes together and makes life horrible.
Before we do all that, I want to talk about
Michelle Obama because she, I think, is the perfect example
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of victim mentality. She is, by no stretch of the
imagination a victim at all. The Obamas are rich, very rich.
She was the first Lady of the United States. That's
kind of a big deal, and yet she still always
has some sort of metric by which she has been victimized.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
I don't understand it.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
I don't understand how Michelle Obama, of all people, still
has all of these things to complain about it. Take
a listen to this clip. She's on, I believe, some
sort of book tour, and she's now upset because of
white people and how they make her fix her hair.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
I'm not kidding. Take a listen to this.
Speaker 6 (01:53):
Worry about it. Let me explain something to white people.
Our hair comes out of our head now actually in
a curly pattern. So when we're straightening it to follow
your beauty standards, we are trapped by the straightness.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
That's why so many of us.
Speaker 6 (02:10):
Can't swim and we run away from the water.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
People want to go to the gym because we're trying.
Speaker 6 (02:17):
To keep our hair straight for y'all.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Right, So that's what it is.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
All the ales that African American people face here in
the United States come from the fact that white people
are making y'all straighten your hair. We're no, we're not.
We're just not. You're the former First Lady of the
United States. In that clip, you've got your hair straightened.
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Who made you do that. Nobody who's putting a.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Gun to Michelle Obama's head and saying straighten your hair. Nobody, nobody.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
She could walk out on stage with an afro tomorrow
and she would be worshiped like a goddess for it.
Nobody is making you straighten your hair.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
You're choosing to do that.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
Nobody is making black people straighten their hair.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
It's just not happening.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
It just isn't and especially you, Michelle Obama, go Lee.
I mean, the things that she manages to be victimized by.
It baffles me to my court. Anyway, let's talk about
the shutdown.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Enough of that.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
We've made fun of Michelle Obama for long enough. She's
an oppressed black woman. Guys, we have to leave her beat.
Let's talk about the shutdown. I think this article in
Fox is interesting. It's by Representative Brian mass and he's
basically calling out the fact that Democrats have completely screwed.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Themselves on this shutdown.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
He says in this article, for the last forty days,
the term government shutdown became interchangeable for Democrats with words
like leverage or to make a point.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
And that's obviously true.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
We've played you the clips on this show of Democrats
using all of those words to describe this shutdown. But
for millions of Americans, this shutdown wasn't political theater.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
It was a gut punch.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
It meant misspaychecks, putting unpaid bills on credit cards with
mounting interests, delayed travel, national security risks, and uncertainty about
whether the people who protect and serve this nation will
get paid on time, if at all.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
When the government funding ran out due to.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
A Democrat temper tantrum, it wasn't they who immediately felt
the pain. It was the air traffic controllers and TSA
officers that kept our sky safe. It was the Coast
Guard members who patrol our shores, and the border patrol
agents defending our border, and the soldiers and sailors standing
to watch overseas. They were asked to keep showing up
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and doing their job. While Washington argued over talking points,
this is not leadership, it's portrayal.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
And I think that's a really good point.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
At the end of the day, Democrats did use the
American people as leverage. Now, I was blessed to not
really be affected by this. I don't travel by plane
ever at all. I never will Lord Willing and the
create don't rise. And I'm not a government employee, so
these particular things didn't bother me that much. I'm not
on SNAP, I'm not on EBT, I'm not on any
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welfare program, so these things didn't bother me that much.
But there are a lot of people out there who
tend to vote Democrat, frankly, who were affected by this.
That's gonna hurt the Democrat Party.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
It is.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
It already is. The polling Dad is showing this. Here's
real clear politics. The Democrat Party has a fifty eight
percent unfavorability rating right now.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
That's not good.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
If you're fifty eight percent unfavorable heading into a midterm
election that you, frankly have to win, that's gonna hurt you.
I mean, you don't just walk away from that. You've
got to start working those numbers back up real day quick.
And the thing that you had going was the shutdown. Like,
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make no mistake, their favorability rating didn't just get bad,
it got worse, but the shutdown was their plan to
make it better. That was what they had in mind.
Hey we're unpopular, we have nothing to run on. Let's
just shut down the government. We're say we're opposing Donald
Trump and fighting for healthcare and then making this big
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tough stand will make us popular again.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
No it won't. No, it won't because the entire.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
American populace could clearly see that you're doing that just
to do it, just to show off. The American people
do not enjoy being political pawns. They definitely want you
to fight for them if you're a politician, for sure,
they want you to be very clearly taking a stand
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for issues that they care about. But if you're just
taking a stand, to take a stand to keep yourself
in office, and your political ammunition is the American people,
that's not gonna go over.
Speaker 7 (07:06):
Well.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
This government shutdown has proven that.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
And just to show you that this is a Democrat problem,
here's the Republican Party favorability fifty unfavorable. It's not much better,
but it is better, notably better, fifty versus fifty eight percent.
That's a big difference in politics. The Democrats, I'm predicting
it now, are going to take a hit on this.
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The polling is showing that. All right, stay tuned, we
got a lot to talk about this evening. We're gonna
be talking about housing Jade Vance had some very interesting
things to say about that, So stay tuned.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
That's gonna be in the next segment.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
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Speaker 1 (08:18):
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All right, real quick, continuing with the government shut down
talk for just a minute, I think one thing that
is a major positive about the shutdown is this did
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put for the first time a real serious national spotlight
on a lot of the benefit and entitlement programs that
we have here in the United States. Mainly snap. And
here's the thing. We know there's a lot of abuse here.
We do because it's a federal program. Of course there's abuse.
Every federal program has abuse. Because it's the federal government.
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They can't do their jobs right to save their lives,
all right, no part of the federal government can, except
maybe the Marine Corps. But that's just because their only
job is break things. But we know there's a lot
of abuse and fraud and issues with these programs, but
you're never allowed to talk about it because if you do,
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you're a mean person who doesn't want to feed the homeless. Thankfully,
it seems like we've kind of moved past that and
now we're actually allowed to discuss the fact that, like, hey,
we got a bunch of illegal aliens and just fat,
lazy people that are taking advantage of all this and
we need to do something about that. Here is Brooke Rowlins,
she is the Agriculture Secretary, she's in charge of all
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these programs, saying, hey, I think the Democrats messed up
here because these programs that they've arguably intentionally left a
bunch of holes in, we now have kind of the
political capital that we need to actually fix some of
these problems here she is saying that take a listen.
Speaker 8 (10:39):
But the Democrats did not include in their calculation and
their insane government shut down was the fact that this
spotlight was going to be shined upon one of their
favorite government welfare programs that under Joe Biden increased forty percent,
where all that money went trying.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
To buy elections.
Speaker 8 (10:56):
We're not one hundred percent sure, but we're rolling it
back now. On day one back in February for me,
we send a letter to every governor saying, send us
your snap data. All of this money that the federal government,
the taxpayers are paying for food stamps, we don't even
know where it goes, what happens, what they're doing with it.
And we said no more. So twenty nine states complied
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and twenty other twenty plus others did not, and we're suing.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
We're in a litigation right now.
Speaker 8 (11:22):
But of the twenty nine that complied, what we have
found is staggering half a million people getting benefits two
times under the same name, five thousand dead people, eighty
percent of the able bodied Americans, meaning they can work,
they don't have small children at home, they're not taking
care of an elderly parent they can work, and they
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choose not to work, of course, because they're getting significant
benefits from the taxpayer. So this light Laura that has
now been shined on what is perhaps one of the
most corrupt, dysfunctional programs in American history, that we are
working now, very big announcements coming next week on this
cracking down. We now have a plan to fix it,
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and we're really really excited about doing that for the
American people.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
How much money do y'all think that is, because I
guarantee you it's a lot. Half a million people are
getting benefits twice eighty percent of able bodied Americans that
could be working just choosing not to.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
That's a lot of money. That's a lot of money.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
You want to complain about inflation, where do you think
that's coming from.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
It's coming from the.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Fact that we have these massive federal programs that cost
a lot of money, so we're printing money to pay
for them. If you really want to make some progress
on inflation, start tackling things like this, these you know,
multi billion dollars at a time waste. Let's cut down
on that. Let's cut that out of the budget. I
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think that'll make everybody happy in the long run. I mean,
not the lazy people who don't want to.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
Have to work.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
They're not gonna like it. But for everybody else who
now are our paychecks feel like they're more. They might
not be more, but they feel like they're more because
you can buy more, because inflation slow down, because we
don't have to print as much money, because our federal
budget is smaller. I mean, this isn't controversial, but it'll
become controversial the moment some bleeding heart leftist says, Oh,
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but what about the poor people, What about them? That's
not what we're talking about here. There's a time to
talk about that, and believe me, we will right now.
We're talking about the people who could be working, but
aren't the five thousand dead people. And that's just the
ones we know about. I've said this time and time again.
That's just the ones we know about. There are a
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lot more. Remember, only twenty nine states gave us this information,
only twenty nine. In just those twenty nine states we
found so far five thousand. You might say, oh, just
five thousand, that's not that many. This is a country
of hundreds of millions of people. Five thousand, Well, that's
barely a drop.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
In the bucket. Frankly, I don't care. One is too many.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
And that's my argument of why we shouldn't have these
programs at all. They cannot be administered properly at a
scale this big.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
It's just not possible.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
There will always be fraud, and I don't think any
amount of fraud should be accepted. If you can't do
this without it being wasted on people who are dead
or shouldn't have it, then don't do it. That shouldn't
be as controversial as it is. But whatever, All right,
let's talk about immigration. This story out of Kansas.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Blew my mind.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
Kansas mayor mayor charged with illegally voting just days after
winning re election. The mayor of a small Kansas town
who cruised to reelection this week has been charged with
voting illegally. Well, you might ask yourself, how did the
mayor get to a point where he's voting illegally? Does
he have some sort of felony or something on his
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record that would prevent him from voting? Jose Cabellus fifty
four one reelection in Coldwater, Kansas on Tuesday. The next day,
Kansas Attorney General Chris Koboc charged Cabellos with voting in
multiple elections illegally.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
Saying he's not a US citizen. What are you talking about.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
Cabellos, who was first elected mayor in twenty twenty one,
that's four years ago, was charged with three counts of
voting without being qualified and three counts of election perjury
for three elections in November twenty twenty two, November twenty
twenty three, in August twenty twenty four. In Kansas, it
is against the law to vote if you are not
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a US citizen. We allege that mister Cabellos did it
multiple times. Cabellos is a legal permanent resident of the
United States.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
According to the Attorney General.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
Legal permanent resident and US citizen are very different things,
all right, completely different. Actually, one is just hey, you're
allowed to stay here. You can stick around. We're not
even gonna put a time limit. But you are not
a US citizen. You do not have full rights and
privileges of US citizens. You cannot vote in our elections.
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You are a foreign national. You are a citizen of
another country. You are not an American. You cannot vote
in our elections. This guy not only allegedly voted three times,
but he somehow managed to be an elected official in
this town.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Do you understand what has happened here? Americans are being
governed by foreigners? Why? How have we gotten to this point?
Is this what our founding fathers died? I would argue that, no,
it's not.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
My ancestors did not fight war after war after war
just for American citizens to be governed at home by foreigners.
And this guy is a foreigner. That's not racist or
mean to say that is a legal fact. He is
a foreigner. How does this happen? How did the people
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of this Kansas town elect a foreigner to govern them?
Speaker 1 (17:29):
How is that allowed?
Speaker 3 (17:32):
We have got to take some serious, long looks about
immigration and why we're doing it, and whether or not
it's actually benefiting us, because.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
There's a strong case to be made that it's not.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
It could be we could use it, right, That's what
we're gonna talk about in the next segment, but right
now we haven't been stated.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
We'll be our back, all right, welcome back. I think
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it's fair to say that.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
Mass immigration as we've seen it worked out over the
last several years is obviously not in the best interests
of the United States of America and the American people.
For example, American citizens being governed by foreigners, literal, honest
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to God foreigners, as we've talked about in the last segment.
If you missed it, if you're just tuning in now,
check back at the podcast tomorrow morning. We'll dig into that.
Are we dug into that? And you can re listen
to it. But that's obviously not in our interest. And
I could talk for hours about how that's obvious not
in our interest. But another reason this sort of mass
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migration that we've seen is not in our interests is
it makes it difficult for Americans to live our lives.
As much as you want to sit and say, oh,
this doesn't affect me, I live in so and so,
or I live wherever, or I just have an open
heart and want all the cultures to come experience America,
at the end of the day, it is going to
affect you, and probably when you go to buy a house.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
That's what we're going to talk about again.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
I've talked about this several times, but I have to
keep talking about it because, for whatever reason, a bunch
of people my age don't have the mental capacity to
connect these two obviously connected dots between mass immigration and
housing prices. So once again I'm going to cite the
same data from the Chamber of Commerce. This is from
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updated September third, twenty twenty five, originally published in March,
so this is recent.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
This is this year from the us JA Member of Commerce.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
Housing has long been a cornerstone of the American dream
and a vital component of the nation's economy.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
That's obviously true. We all have heard the old cliche.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
About the American dream is the nice house, the white
pick of fan s lighted Dodi da and the economy.
A big part of being able to build up a
net worth and have plenty of money is the ability
to buy an asset that just appreciates really well, like
a house, and pay that off and have your housing
situation handled for the rest of your life. That's a
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big part of, you know, moving up financially. Yet, the
US housing market is severely strained due to a fundamental
imbalance between supply and demand. So just in case I
have a bunch of economically illiterate people listening right now,
and I don't think that's the case, I thank you.
My listeners are the smartest listeners and the great listeners.
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Everybody always says the next gen report has the best listeners.
But on the off chance that you're not a regular
listener and you're economically literate, supply and demand, supply demand.
Wherever those two lines cross, that's where your price is,
all right, So what is the demand in the housing market?
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A severe shortage of over four point seven million homes.
That's where the demand is. Right now, we have four
point seven million fewer homes than what we need, which
has created a cascading economic and social challenge from skyrocketing
prices to reduced workforce mobility. That's obviously true. Hey, I
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want to go get a better job. There's a really
good job in another town. There's nowhere to live there.
That's out of the question. You can't go work somewhere
where you can't live unless you want to have a
four and a half hour commute. If I'm working in
X industry and four towns over, there's a great job
opportunity in my industry, but there's nowhere in that town
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to live because of the housing deficit.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
That's a problem.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
So there's obviously multiple causes to this, right, I mean,
one the big one or a big one. They're both
big ones. There's two big ones. One regulation. It's really
expensive and it takes a really long time to build housing,
primarily because of regulation. You have to jump through a
whole lot of hoops in order to get a house built.
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Some of that regulation is good, right, There is some
need to say, hey, if you're building a house and
putting it on the market, you've got to meet these
basic liveability standards. You have to be able to make
sure that this house isn't just going to cave in
on itself after a year and a half the first
time a sour wind blows through. If this house just
falls over because you built a piece of crap house,
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that's a problem. Some regulation is needed there. But also
there's a lot of regulation that's probably not needed.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
We don't need to do an.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
Environmental survey about what type of mouse is going to
be killed when you build a house in a field.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
It's just not necessary. Make it or it won't. It's
called natural selection. Look it up. Rest in peace to
the mouse. I don't care.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
We need houses. The other big one is mass migration.
When we have Americans competing with ten million illegal aliens,
for housing, and we're already short on housing.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
What do you think that does to the prices? It
shoots them up. These people shouldn't even be in this country,
and now they're significantly negatively impacting that price of housing. Jd.
Vance is calling this out here. He is saying this.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
This is an interview with Fox and he's sitting here saying, hey,
we've got thirty million illegal aliens in this country. I
don't know where exactly he's getting that thirty million number.
It's really hard to nail down exactly how many illegal
aliens are here. I'm confident in saying there's at least
eleven million. Again, even that number, if we deported just
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ten million, that would solve the housing deaths, I think
to a certain degree. But he's saying thirty million. That's
even worse. Take a listen to him calling this out.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
I know that there are a lot of people out
there Sean who are saying things are expensive, and we
have to remember they're expensive because we inherited this terrible
inflation crisis from the Biden administration. But you've already seen
signs that things are getting better. The price of eggs
has gone way down, the price of energy has gone
way down. The price of gasoline has gone way down,
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and as we know, when the price of energy goes down,
that starts to filter out into the entire economy. But
that also takes a little bit of time. There's another
component of this Sean, which to me is maybe the
most important, because I care so much about our young
people being able to afford a good life. A lot
of young people are saying housing is way too expensive.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
Why is that?
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Because we flooded the country with thirty million illegal immigrants
who were taking houses that ought by right go to
American citizens. And at the same time, we weren't building
enough new houses to begin with, even for the population
that we had. So what we're doing is trying to
make it easier to build houses, trying to make it
easier to build factories and things like that so that
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people have good jobs. We're also getting all of those
illegal aliens out of our country, and you're already seeing
it start to pay some dividends.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
All right, So he's being fairly reasonable. I think, like, hey,
these houses should be going to Americans. Americans are having
to compete with a whole bunch of illegal aliens for
them that's not a healthy system. Now, we could just
build a bunch more houses. Okay, that's going to take
a long time. It's going to take a very long
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time to build almost five million, if not more, units
of housing. That's not an easy thing to do, especially
with the regulation, which is what Jadman's is calling out there.
Alex tabaruck I don't know who this guy is, he says,
jd Vance thinks like a kami.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
Look at the language.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
Legal immigrants are taking houses that buy right up to
go to Americans if homes are fixed pot that the
government allocates to a deserving class, and the US sellers
blank out zero sum central planner thinking, no, that's not
what this is at all.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
This is a complete misread of what jd Vance is
saying here.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
Jd Vance isn't saying these houses by right ought to
go to Americans because it's a centralized resource that the
government gets to allocate. He's saying these houses ought to
go to Americans because they're in America, right. I mean,
this didn't used to be controversial. This is the United
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States of America. These houses are in America. These houses
should belong to Americans. Now if by the time every
American that can afford one through their own hard labor
gets one and is ready to go and set, and
we have a bunch left over. Then let's say, hey,
maybe can we can we bring in some immigrants that
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are gonna be beneficial to the United States and assimilate
and become American citizens and let them.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
Through the fruits of their own labor by some of
these houses. But that's gotta be after.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
If American citizens can't afford to buy houses in the
country that their ancestors fought and died for because they're
having to fight with ten million illegal aliens who should
not be here, that's a problem. It's not communists to
say that. There's an argument to be made that it's
a little bit nationalist. That's fine, that's fine. We should
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be putting Americans and the American people first. How do
we make sure America is the most proper sperius nation
to the benefit of American people.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
I'm not talking about just abstract GDP.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
I'm talking about making sure Americans can and live a
good life if they work hard. This doesn't necessitate government handouts,
but it does necessitate the government do their job and
protect us from an invasion of illegal immigrants who aren't
gonna assimilate, who shouldn't be in this country, who frankly
don't like this country very much, but recognize we're a
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better economy. So they're gonna come here and they're gonna
suck us drive, which is what's happening. Objectively, that's what's happening.
And they're taking up housing that American citizens should get.
That's obviously true. It takes a significant level of cognitive dissonance,
intentional cognitive dissonance to deny that objective reality.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
I'm glad the Vice President is calling this out.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
We're gonna be talking a lot more about this in
our last segment, so stay tuned. We'll be right back
with more than next gener report in just a minute.
(29:14):
All right, let's continue with our little chat here about
housing and immigration. I had seen someone on Twitter but
point out the to of his credit, obviously true fact
that you know, illegal immigrants aren't going and buying up massive,
you know, two to four hundred thousand dollars homes.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
That's true.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
That that's clearly true, and credit to this guy for
pointing that out. He tried to use that as an
argument that like, oh, clearly because legal immigrants aren't buying
up you know, three bad two bath houses. That means
that they're not really a strain on the housing supply.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
No, you've missed the point.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
They are a strain on thing like apartments, really small
starter homes, things like that, you know, too bad one
and a half bath, teeny tiny starter homes and you know, apartments,
even low income housing Section eight type housing, they are
a strain on that supply, right, and so that complicates things.
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It does when people can't get a starter home, they
start looking at, you know, higher homes that you're increasing
the demand of higher level, not starter homes, but maybe
mid level to even nicer homes.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
There's more demand for that. We can't build those fast enough.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
And then of course, you know, if you're just starting out,
if you're just looking for a decent apartment, there's not
as much of that around because the illegal aliens are
grabbing them up. If you're really low income and you're
looking for Section eight housing, you might be having a
harder time getting that because the illegal immigrants are using
Section eight housing. Here is Scott Turner talking about this.
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You know, illegal immigrants are obviously strained on the housing supply.
They're also a strain on government programs like Section eight
other welfare type programs.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
They are using them.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
They're not supposed to be. The left will tell you
they aren't. Here's Scott Turner, he would know. He's the
Housing and Urban Development Secretary. He's saying, yeah, actually, fifty
eight percent, fifty nine percent of these legal alien households
are taking advantage of these programs tagalism.
Speaker 5 (31:31):
Over twelve million illegal aliens came into our country, which
has put a great strain on our housing supply and affordability.
During the Biden administration, Sandra and John, the housing policies,
the open border policies, the economic policies were weak and
really just deflated housing in our country. And so we've
been working very hard at HUD to help with affordability.
(31:54):
Number one, taking down burden some regulations that have crippled
development and crippled building and country. And you talk about
illegal aliens in our country, fifty nine percent of illegal
alien households use one or more welfare programs in our
country and that costs US about forty two billion dollars.
And so just doubt alone is a tremendous strength. But
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there's good news on the horizon. As you've seen and reported,
regulations are coming down, inflation is coming down, mortgage rates
are coming down. I believe right now mortgage rates are
about six percent or a little bit above, which is
twelve percent lower than the president when he came into office.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
So obviously they're straining here. Now does that mean that
all immigration is bad? No, not necessarily. Here's my position
on this, and I've had several conversations with a lot
of different folks about this. We need to, at least
for the time being, essentially stop all in migration, with
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maybe some key exceptions, because we got to get handled,
we got to deport a lot lot of people, and
we got to slow down the inflow, even of legal immigrants,
just because we don't have the housing supply. If for
no other reason than that one, we don't have the
housing supply. So let's shut the door for a little bit,
figure this situation out, and then, like I said earlier,
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once we've got Americans taken care of, we can look at,
you know, can we bring in some people that are
advantageous to us and will benefit and become Americans.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
Donald Trump has been making this point.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
He thinks that you know, maybe we should be doing
some of that, bringing some key people in.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
Now.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
There's an argument to be made for that, there's an
argument to be made against it. Here he is saying,
and it got a little contentious with this Fox News host, uh,
Laura Ingram. He's saying, Hey, we we actually do need
some H one b's, some H one B visa holders
to come in and do some work for us. I
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want you to play what he says. He kind of
gets in, well, I'm gonna play it for you. I'm
gonna let you listen to it. He gets into a
little bit of a spat with Laura Ingram. And this
has caused a lot of people on the hard right
to be very upset with Donald Trump. I think a
lot of that is overblown. We've talked a lot about
the bad immigration. There is bad immigration. We need to
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stop it. Now we're going to dig into a little
bit some of the good immigration. And to kick that
off here, Donald Trump, there's.
Speaker 7 (34:27):
Never going to be a country like what we have
right now. And does that the Republicans have to talk
about it?
Speaker 4 (34:31):
And does that mean the H one B visa thing
will not be a big priority for your administration? Because
if you want to raise wages for American workers, you
can't flood the country with tens of thousands or hundreds
of hours.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
And also do have to bring in talent when.
Speaker 4 (34:45):
We're done talent, We don't have talent.
Speaker 7 (34:49):
No, you don't have you don't have certain talents, and
you have to people have to learn. You can't take
people off.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
Now, a lot of people on the right are taking
that one clip and going bananas that Donald trum Beer.
I want you to pay very close attention to what
he said. We don't have certain types of talent. That's
obviously true, all right, There's certain things that we just
don't do in the United States or haven't done for
a long time.
Speaker 7 (35:16):
Continue for an unemployment like an unemployment line is say
I'm going to put you into a factory who we're
going to make missiles or I'm gonna.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
Put do we ever do it before? Well, I'll give
you an example.
Speaker 7 (35:26):
In Georgia, they rated because they wanted illegal immigrants out.
They had people from from South Korea that made batteries
all their lives. You know, making batteries are very complicated.
It's not an easy thing and a very dangerous. A lot
of explosions, a lot of problems. They add like five
or six hundred people early stages to make batteries and
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to teach people how to do it.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
All right, So that's the point that he's making.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
We're trying to get into building things that are global resources,
things like micro trips, things like battery these electric car
batteries is a big one. He cites that case of
the Hyundai plant in Georgia where they had a bunch
of illegal immigrants from South Korea that we're working in
this factory here in the United States.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
Now, he's completely correct.
Speaker 3 (36:14):
There is certain levels of precision manufacturing for specific products
that we in the United States want to get into.
That we should get into, but we just don't have
the skill set the average American worker just because we
haven't done it. Microships have for a long time, very
vast majority of microships have been made in other countries,
not by Americans. And that's precision manufacturing. That's not just
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your standard manufacturing where you can put a guy on
the line and say, hey, as the part comes, you
twist that night and send it down the line. We
just haven't done precision manufacturing like this in the United States.
We haven't. We want to get into that, but that's
going to require skill sets we don't have. So what
do we do.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
We bring in small numbers of H one b VSAs
that's a temporary work visa to teach Americans how to
do that job so that Americans can get those good
paying jobs. And then we send the H one b's back.
We bring the H one b's in for a little bit,
have them teach Americans to do something we haven't done.
And when Donald Trump says we don't have that talent,
(37:18):
he's right, we don't. We can get it, we can
learn it, but we've got to learn it first. We
need teachers for that. That's true.
Speaker 3 (37:26):
Now people have been taking that clip and saying, oh,
Donald Trump is no longer maga. He says America doesn't
have any talent and we need to bring in H
one b's to do manufacturing. That's not what he's saying.
He's saying we don't have specific talents, which is obviously true.
And Laura Ingram says, well, how did we do it before?
When you and I were growing up. The good question, Laura,
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we didn't you think there was massive amounts of electric
vehicle manufacturing in the forties and fifties when you and
Donald Trump were going up, there wasn't we have never
done those things here in the United States. Done manufacturing
in the United States that got offshore. It was offshore
fifty years ago. That's a long time. There's obviously going
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to have to be some relearning of skills. I think
H one b's could be used in small numbers to
actually benefit the United States of America, and we shouldn't
shun that.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
Now.
Speaker 3 (38:19):
There's fatigue because the system has been abused, that's obviously true.
But just because the system has been abused doesn't mean
that we can't look at this. Okay, this program is
designed to help American manufacturing, American business. Let's see if
we could actually use it to do that. Donald Trump
is correct here. Could he have said it better? Probably,
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But hey, there's many such cases.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
All Right.
Speaker 3 (38:41):
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Speaker 4 (00:28):
Ah?
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Righty? What do we got today? What don't we have?
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Trump is in trouble again with his base. A bunch
of people on the right are pissed off. I'm just
gonna come out and say it. I think this is
much adoe about nothing, and we'll explain why a little
bit later in the show.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
So stay tuned.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
We're gonna be talking about all of that. What exactly
Donald Trump said to aggravate his base. We're gonna be
talking about housing because why not, the deficit, immigration, how
all of that kind of comes together and makes life horrible.
Before we do all that, I want to talk about
Michelle Obama because she, I think, is the perfect example
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of victim mentality. She is, by no stretch of the
imagination a victim at all. The Obamas are rich, very rich.
She was the first Lady of the United States. That's
kind of a big deal, and yet she still always
has some sort of metric by which she has been victimized.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
I don't understand it.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
I don't understand how Michelle Obama, of all people, still
has all of these things to complain about it. Take
a listen to this clip. She's on, I believe, some
sort of book tour, and she's now upset because of
white people and how they make her fix her hair.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
I'm not kidding. Take a listen to this.
Speaker 6 (01:53):
Worry about it. Let me explain something to white people.
Our hair comes out of our head now actually in
a curly pattern. So when we're straightening it to follow
your beauty standards, we are trapped by the straightness.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
That's why so many of us.
Speaker 6 (02:10):
Can't swim and we run away from the water.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
People want to go to the gym because we're trying.
Speaker 6 (02:17):
To keep our hair straight for y'all.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Right, So that's what it is.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
All the ales that African American people face here in
the United States come from the fact that white people
are making y'all straighten your hair. We're no, we're not.
We're just not. You're the former First Lady of the
United States. In that clip, you've got your hair straightened.
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Who made you do that. Nobody who's putting a.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Gun to Michelle Obama's head and saying straighten your hair. Nobody, nobody.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
She could walk out on stage with an afro tomorrow
and she would be worshiped like a goddess for it.
Nobody is making you straighten your hair.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
You're choosing to do that.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
Nobody is making black people straighten their hair.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
It's just not happening.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
It just isn't and especially you, Michelle Obama, go Lee.
I mean, the things that she manages to be victimized by.
It baffles me to my court. Anyway, let's talk about
the shutdown.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Enough of that.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
We've made fun of Michelle Obama for long enough. She's
an oppressed black woman. Guys, we have to leave her beat.
Let's talk about the shutdown. I think this article in
Fox is interesting. It's by Representative Brian mass and he's
basically calling out the fact that Democrats have completely screwed.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Themselves on this shutdown.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
He says in this article, for the last forty days,
the term government shutdown became interchangeable for Democrats with words
like leverage or to make a point.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
And that's obviously true.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
We've played you the clips on this show of Democrats
using all of those words to describe this shutdown. But
for millions of Americans, this shutdown wasn't political theater.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
It was a gut punch.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
It meant misspaychecks, putting unpaid bills on credit cards with
mounting interests, delayed travel, national security risks, and uncertainty about
whether the people who protect and serve this nation will
get paid on time, if at all.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
When the government funding ran out due to.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
A Democrat temper tantrum, it wasn't they who immediately felt
the pain. It was the air traffic controllers and TSA
officers that kept our sky safe. It was the Coast
Guard members who patrol our shores, and the border patrol
agents defending our border, and the soldiers and sailors standing
to watch overseas. They were asked to keep showing up
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and doing their job. While Washington argued over talking points,
this is not leadership, it's portrayal.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
And I think that's a really good point.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
At the end of the day, Democrats did use the
American people as leverage. Now, I was blessed to not
really be affected by this. I don't travel by plane
ever at all. I never will Lord Willing and the
create don't rise. And I'm not a government employee, so
these particular things didn't bother me that much. I'm not
on SNAP, I'm not on EBT, I'm not on any
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welfare program, so these things didn't bother me that much.
But there are a lot of people out there who
tend to vote Democrat, frankly, who were affected by this.
That's gonna hurt the Democrat Party.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
It is.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
It already is. The polling Dad is showing this. Here's
real clear politics. The Democrat Party has a fifty eight
percent unfavorability rating right now.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
That's not good.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
If you're fifty eight percent unfavorable heading into a midterm
election that you, frankly have to win, that's gonna hurt you.
I mean, you don't just walk away from that. You've
got to start working those numbers back up real day quick.
And the thing that you had going was the shutdown. Like,
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make no mistake, their favorability rating didn't just get bad,
it got worse, but the shutdown was their plan to
make it better. That was what they had in mind.
Hey we're unpopular, we have nothing to run on. Let's
just shut down the government. We're say we're opposing Donald
Trump and fighting for healthcare and then making this big
(06:27):
tough stand will make us popular again.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
No it won't. No, it won't because the entire.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
American populace could clearly see that you're doing that just
to do it, just to show off. The American people
do not enjoy being political pawns. They definitely want you
to fight for them if you're a politician, for sure,
they want you to be very clearly taking a stand
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for issues that they care about. But if you're just
taking a stand, to take a stand to keep yourself
in office, and your political ammunition is the American people,
that's not gonna go over.
Speaker 7 (07:06):
Well.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
This government shutdown has proven that.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
And just to show you that this is a Democrat problem,
here's the Republican Party favorability fifty unfavorable. It's not much better,
but it is better, notably better, fifty versus fifty eight percent.
That's a big difference in politics. The Democrats, I'm predicting
it now, are going to take a hit on this.
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The polling is showing that. All right, stay tuned, we
got a lot to talk about this evening. We're gonna
be talking about housing Jade Vance had some very interesting
things to say about that, So stay tuned.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
That's gonna be in the next segment.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
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All right, real quick, continuing with the government shut down
talk for just a minute, I think one thing that
is a major positive about the shutdown is this did
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put for the first time a real serious national spotlight
on a lot of the benefit and entitlement programs that
we have here in the United States. Mainly snap. And
here's the thing. We know there's a lot of abuse here.
We do because it's a federal program. Of course there's abuse.
Every federal program has abuse. Because it's the federal government.
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They can't do their jobs right to save their lives,
all right, no part of the federal government can, except
maybe the Marine Corps. But that's just because their only
job is break things. But we know there's a lot
of abuse and fraud and issues with these programs, but
you're never allowed to talk about it because if you do,
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you're a mean person who doesn't want to feed the homeless. Thankfully,
it seems like we've kind of moved past that and
now we're actually allowed to discuss the fact that, like, hey,
we got a bunch of illegal aliens and just fat,
lazy people that are taking advantage of all this and
we need to do something about that. Here is Brooke Rowlins,
she is the Agriculture Secretary, she's in charge of all
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these programs, saying, hey, I think the Democrats messed up
here because these programs that they've arguably intentionally left a
bunch of holes in, we now have kind of the
political capital that we need to actually fix some of
these problems here she is saying that take a listen.
Speaker 8 (10:39):
But the Democrats did not include in their calculation and
their insane government shut down was the fact that this
spotlight was going to be shined upon one of their
favorite government welfare programs that under Joe Biden increased forty percent,
where all that money went trying.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
To buy elections.
Speaker 8 (10:56):
We're not one hundred percent sure, but we're rolling it
back now. On day one back in February for me,
we send a letter to every governor saying, send us
your snap data. All of this money that the federal government,
the taxpayers are paying for food stamps, we don't even
know where it goes, what happens, what they're doing with it.
And we said no more. So twenty nine states complied
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and twenty other twenty plus others did not, and we're suing.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
We're in a litigation right now.
Speaker 8 (11:22):
But of the twenty nine that complied, what we have
found is staggering half a million people getting benefits two
times under the same name, five thousand dead people, eighty
percent of the able bodied Americans, meaning they can work,
they don't have small children at home, they're not taking
care of an elderly parent they can work, and they
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choose not to work, of course, because they're getting significant
benefits from the taxpayer. So this light Laura that has
now been shined on what is perhaps one of the
most corrupt, dysfunctional programs in American history, that we are
working now, very big announcements coming next week on this
cracking down. We now have a plan to fix it,
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and we're really really excited about doing that for the
American people.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
How much money do y'all think that is, because I
guarantee you it's a lot. Half a million people are
getting benefits twice eighty percent of able bodied Americans that
could be working just choosing not to.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
That's a lot of money. That's a lot of money.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
You want to complain about inflation, where do you think
that's coming from.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
It's coming from the.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Fact that we have these massive federal programs that cost
a lot of money, so we're printing money to pay
for them. If you really want to make some progress
on inflation, start tackling things like this, these you know,
multi billion dollars at a time waste. Let's cut down
on that. Let's cut that out of the budget. I
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think that'll make everybody happy in the long run. I mean,
not the lazy people who don't want to.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
Have to work.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
They're not gonna like it. But for everybody else who
now are our paychecks feel like they're more. They might
not be more, but they feel like they're more because
you can buy more, because inflation slow down, because we
don't have to print as much money, because our federal
budget is smaller. I mean, this isn't controversial, but it'll
become controversial the moment some bleeding heart leftist says, Oh,
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but what about the poor people, What about them? That's
not what we're talking about here. There's a time to
talk about that, and believe me, we will right now.
We're talking about the people who could be working, but
aren't the five thousand dead people. And that's just the
ones we know about. I've said this time and time again.
That's just the ones we know about. There are a
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lot more. Remember, only twenty nine states gave us this information,
only twenty nine. In just those twenty nine states we
found so far five thousand. You might say, oh, just
five thousand, that's not that many. This is a country
of hundreds of millions of people. Five thousand, Well, that's
barely a drop.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
In the bucket. Frankly, I don't care. One is too many.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
And that's my argument of why we shouldn't have these
programs at all. They cannot be administered properly at a
scale this big.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
It's just not possible.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
There will always be fraud, and I don't think any
amount of fraud should be accepted. If you can't do
this without it being wasted on people who are dead
or shouldn't have it, then don't do it. That shouldn't
be as controversial as it is. But whatever, All right,
let's talk about immigration. This story out of Kansas.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Blew my mind.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
Kansas mayor mayor charged with illegally voting just days after
winning re election. The mayor of a small Kansas town
who cruised to reelection this week has been charged with
voting illegally. Well, you might ask yourself, how did the
mayor get to a point where he's voting illegally? Does
he have some sort of felony or something on his
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record that would prevent him from voting? Jose Cabellus fifty
four one reelection in Coldwater, Kansas on Tuesday. The next day,
Kansas Attorney General Chris Koboc charged Cabellos with voting in
multiple elections illegally.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
Saying he's not a US citizen. What are you talking about.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
Cabellos, who was first elected mayor in twenty twenty one,
that's four years ago, was charged with three counts of
voting without being qualified and three counts of election perjury
for three elections in November twenty twenty two, November twenty
twenty three, in August twenty twenty four. In Kansas, it
is against the law to vote if you are not
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a US citizen. We allege that mister Cabellos did it
multiple times. Cabellos is a legal permanent resident of the
United States.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
According to the Attorney General.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
Legal permanent resident and US citizen are very different things,
all right, completely different. Actually, one is just hey, you're
allowed to stay here. You can stick around. We're not
even gonna put a time limit. But you are not
a US citizen. You do not have full rights and
privileges of US citizens. You cannot vote in our elections.
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You are a foreign national. You are a citizen of
another country. You are not an American. You cannot vote
in our elections. This guy not only allegedly voted three times,
but he somehow managed to be an elected official in
this town.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Do you understand what has happened here? Americans are being
governed by foreigners? Why? How have we gotten to this point?
Is this what our founding fathers died? I would argue that, no,
it's not.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
My ancestors did not fight war after war after war
just for American citizens to be governed at home by foreigners.
And this guy is a foreigner. That's not racist or
mean to say that is a legal fact. He is
a foreigner. How does this happen? How did the people
(17:26):
of this Kansas town elect a foreigner to govern them?
Speaker 1 (17:29):
How is that allowed?
Speaker 3 (17:32):
We have got to take some serious, long looks about
immigration and why we're doing it, and whether or not
it's actually benefiting us, because.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
There's a strong case to be made that it's not.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
It could be we could use it, right, That's what
we're gonna talk about in the next segment, but right
now we haven't been stated.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
We'll be our back, all right, welcome back. I think
(18:16):
it's fair to say that.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
Mass immigration as we've seen it worked out over the
last several years is obviously not in the best interests
of the United States of America and the American people.
For example, American citizens being governed by foreigners, literal, honest
(18:40):
to God foreigners, as we've talked about in the last segment.
If you missed it, if you're just tuning in now,
check back at the podcast tomorrow morning. We'll dig into that.
Are we dug into that? And you can re listen
to it. But that's obviously not in our interest. And
I could talk for hours about how that's obvious not
in our interest. But another reason this sort of mass
(19:04):
migration that we've seen is not in our interests is
it makes it difficult for Americans to live our lives.
As much as you want to sit and say, oh,
this doesn't affect me, I live in so and so,
or I live wherever, or I just have an open
heart and want all the cultures to come experience America,
at the end of the day, it is going to
affect you, and probably when you go to buy a house.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
That's what we're going to talk about again.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
I've talked about this several times, but I have to
keep talking about it because, for whatever reason, a bunch
of people my age don't have the mental capacity to
connect these two obviously connected dots between mass immigration and
housing prices. So once again I'm going to cite the
same data from the Chamber of Commerce. This is from
(19:51):
updated September third, twenty twenty five, originally published in March,
so this is recent.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
This is this year from the us JA Member of Commerce.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
Housing has long been a cornerstone of the American dream
and a vital component of the nation's economy.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
That's obviously true. We all have heard the old cliche.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
About the American dream is the nice house, the white
pick of fan s lighted Dodi da and the economy.
A big part of being able to build up a
net worth and have plenty of money is the ability
to buy an asset that just appreciates really well, like
a house, and pay that off and have your housing
situation handled for the rest of your life. That's a
(20:29):
big part of, you know, moving up financially. Yet, the
US housing market is severely strained due to a fundamental
imbalance between supply and demand. So just in case I
have a bunch of economically illiterate people listening right now,
and I don't think that's the case, I thank you.
My listeners are the smartest listeners and the great listeners.
(20:52):
Everybody always says the next gen report has the best listeners.
But on the off chance that you're not a regular
listener and you're economically literate, supply and demand, supply demand.
Wherever those two lines cross, that's where your price is,
all right, So what is the demand in the housing market?
(21:12):
A severe shortage of over four point seven million homes.
That's where the demand is. Right now, we have four
point seven million fewer homes than what we need, which
has created a cascading economic and social challenge from skyrocketing
prices to reduced workforce mobility. That's obviously true. Hey, I
(21:33):
want to go get a better job. There's a really
good job in another town. There's nowhere to live there.
That's out of the question. You can't go work somewhere
where you can't live unless you want to have a
four and a half hour commute. If I'm working in
X industry and four towns over, there's a great job
opportunity in my industry, but there's nowhere in that town
(21:57):
to live because of the housing deficit.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
That's a problem.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
So there's obviously multiple causes to this, right, I mean,
one the big one or a big one. They're both
big ones. There's two big ones. One regulation. It's really
expensive and it takes a really long time to build housing,
primarily because of regulation. You have to jump through a
whole lot of hoops in order to get a house built.
(22:22):
Some of that regulation is good, right, There is some
need to say, hey, if you're building a house and
putting it on the market, you've got to meet these
basic liveability standards. You have to be able to make
sure that this house isn't just going to cave in
on itself after a year and a half the first
time a sour wind blows through. If this house just
falls over because you built a piece of crap house,
(22:43):
that's a problem. Some regulation is needed there. But also
there's a lot of regulation that's probably not needed.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
We don't need to do an.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
Environmental survey about what type of mouse is going to
be killed when you build a house in a field.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
It's just not necessary. Make it or it won't. It's
called natural selection. Look it up. Rest in peace to
the mouse. I don't care.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
We need houses. The other big one is mass migration.
When we have Americans competing with ten million illegal aliens,
for housing, and we're already short on housing.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
What do you think that does to the prices? It
shoots them up. These people shouldn't even be in this country,
and now they're significantly negatively impacting that price of housing. Jd.
Vance is calling this out here. He is saying this.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
This is an interview with Fox and he's sitting here saying, hey,
we've got thirty million illegal aliens in this country. I
don't know where exactly he's getting that thirty million number.
It's really hard to nail down exactly how many illegal
aliens are here. I'm confident in saying there's at least
eleven million. Again, even that number, if we deported just
(23:56):
ten million, that would solve the housing deaths, I think
to a certain degree. But he's saying thirty million. That's
even worse. Take a listen to him calling this out.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
I know that there are a lot of people out
there Sean who are saying things are expensive, and we
have to remember they're expensive because we inherited this terrible
inflation crisis from the Biden administration. But you've already seen
signs that things are getting better. The price of eggs
has gone way down, the price of energy has gone
way down. The price of gasoline has gone way down,
(24:29):
and as we know, when the price of energy goes down,
that starts to filter out into the entire economy. But
that also takes a little bit of time. There's another
component of this Sean, which to me is maybe the
most important, because I care so much about our young
people being able to afford a good life. A lot
of young people are saying housing is way too expensive.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
Why is that?
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Because we flooded the country with thirty million illegal immigrants
who were taking houses that ought by right go to
American citizens. And at the same time, we weren't building
enough new houses to begin with, even for the population
that we had. So what we're doing is trying to
make it easier to build houses, trying to make it
easier to build factories and things like that so that
(25:10):
people have good jobs. We're also getting all of those
illegal aliens out of our country, and you're already seeing
it start to pay some dividends.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
All right, So he's being fairly reasonable. I think, like, hey,
these houses should be going to Americans. Americans are having
to compete with a whole bunch of illegal aliens for
them that's not a healthy system. Now, we could just
build a bunch more houses. Okay, that's going to take
a long time. It's going to take a very long
(25:38):
time to build almost five million, if not more, units
of housing. That's not an easy thing to do, especially
with the regulation, which is what Jadman's is calling out there.
Alex tabaruck I don't know who this guy is, he says,
jd Vance thinks like a kami.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
Look at the language.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
Legal immigrants are taking houses that buy right up to
go to Americans if homes are fixed pot that the
government allocates to a deserving class, and the US sellers
blank out zero sum central planner thinking, no, that's not
what this is at all.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
This is a complete misread of what jd Vance is
saying here.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
Jd Vance isn't saying these houses by right ought to
go to Americans because it's a centralized resource that the
government gets to allocate. He's saying these houses ought to
go to Americans because they're in America, right. I mean,
this didn't used to be controversial. This is the United
(26:39):
States of America. These houses are in America. These houses
should belong to Americans. Now if by the time every
American that can afford one through their own hard labor
gets one and is ready to go and set, and
we have a bunch left over. Then let's say, hey,
maybe can we can we bring in some immigrants that
(27:01):
are gonna be beneficial to the United States and assimilate
and become American citizens and let them.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
Through the fruits of their own labor by some of
these houses. But that's gotta be after.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
If American citizens can't afford to buy houses in the
country that their ancestors fought and died for because they're
having to fight with ten million illegal aliens who should
not be here, that's a problem. It's not communists to
say that. There's an argument to be made that it's
a little bit nationalist. That's fine, that's fine. We should
(27:41):
be putting Americans and the American people first. How do
we make sure America is the most proper sperius nation
to the benefit of American people.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
I'm not talking about just abstract GDP.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
I'm talking about making sure Americans can and live a
good life if they work hard. This doesn't necessitate government handouts,
but it does necessitate the government do their job and
protect us from an invasion of illegal immigrants who aren't
gonna assimilate, who shouldn't be in this country, who frankly
don't like this country very much, but recognize we're a
(28:17):
better economy. So they're gonna come here and they're gonna
suck us drive, which is what's happening. Objectively, that's what's happening.
And they're taking up housing that American citizens should get.
That's obviously true. It takes a significant level of cognitive dissonance,
intentional cognitive dissonance to deny that objective reality.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
I'm glad the Vice President is calling this out.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
We're gonna be talking a lot more about this in
our last segment, so stay tuned. We'll be right back
with more than next gener report in just a minute.
(29:14):
All right, let's continue with our little chat here about
housing and immigration. I had seen someone on Twitter but
point out the to of his credit, obviously true fact
that you know, illegal immigrants aren't going and buying up massive,
you know, two to four hundred thousand dollars homes.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
That's true.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
That that's clearly true, and credit to this guy for
pointing that out. He tried to use that as an
argument that like, oh, clearly because legal immigrants aren't buying
up you know, three bad two bath houses. That means
that they're not really a strain on the housing supply.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
No, you've missed the point.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
They are a strain on thing like apartments, really small
starter homes, things like that, you know, too bad one
and a half bath, teeny tiny starter homes and you know, apartments,
even low income housing Section eight type housing, they are
a strain on that supply, right, and so that complicates things.
(30:20):
It does when people can't get a starter home, they
start looking at, you know, higher homes that you're increasing
the demand of higher level, not starter homes, but maybe
mid level to even nicer homes.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
There's more demand for that. We can't build those fast enough.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
And then of course, you know, if you're just starting out,
if you're just looking for a decent apartment, there's not
as much of that around because the illegal aliens are
grabbing them up. If you're really low income and you're
looking for Section eight housing, you might be having a
harder time getting that because the illegal immigrants are using
Section eight housing. Here is Scott Turner talking about this.
(31:04):
You know, illegal immigrants are obviously strained on the housing supply.
They're also a strain on government programs like Section eight
other welfare type programs.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
They are using them.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
They're not supposed to be. The left will tell you
they aren't. Here's Scott Turner, he would know. He's the
Housing and Urban Development Secretary. He's saying, yeah, actually, fifty
eight percent, fifty nine percent of these legal alien households
are taking advantage of these programs tagalism.
Speaker 5 (31:31):
Over twelve million illegal aliens came into our country, which
has put a great strain on our housing supply and affordability.
During the Biden administration, Sandra and John, the housing policies,
the open border policies, the economic policies were weak and
really just deflated housing in our country. And so we've
been working very hard at HUD to help with affordability.
(31:54):
Number one, taking down burden some regulations that have crippled
development and crippled building and country. And you talk about
illegal aliens in our country, fifty nine percent of illegal
alien households use one or more welfare programs in our
country and that costs US about forty two billion dollars.
And so just doubt alone is a tremendous strength. But
(32:16):
there's good news on the horizon. As you've seen and reported,
regulations are coming down, inflation is coming down, mortgage rates
are coming down. I believe right now mortgage rates are
about six percent or a little bit above, which is
twelve percent lower than the president when he came into office.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
So obviously they're straining here. Now does that mean that
all immigration is bad? No, not necessarily. Here's my position
on this, and I've had several conversations with a lot
of different folks about this. We need to, at least
for the time being, essentially stop all in migration, with
(32:56):
maybe some key exceptions, because we got to get handled,
we got to deport a lot lot of people, and
we got to slow down the inflow, even of legal immigrants,
just because we don't have the housing supply. If for
no other reason than that one, we don't have the
housing supply. So let's shut the door for a little bit,
figure this situation out, and then, like I said earlier,
(33:18):
once we've got Americans taken care of, we can look at,
you know, can we bring in some people that are
advantageous to us and will benefit and become Americans.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
Donald Trump has been making this point.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
He thinks that you know, maybe we should be doing
some of that, bringing some key people in.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
Now.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
There's an argument to be made for that, there's an
argument to be made against it. Here he is saying,
and it got a little contentious with this Fox News host, uh,
Laura Ingram. He's saying, Hey, we we actually do need
some H one b's, some H one B visa holders
to come in and do some work for us. I
(33:58):
want you to play what he says. He kind of
gets in, well, I'm gonna play it for you. I'm
gonna let you listen to it. He gets into a
little bit of a spat with Laura Ingram. And this
has caused a lot of people on the hard right
to be very upset with Donald Trump. I think a
lot of that is overblown. We've talked a lot about
the bad immigration. There is bad immigration. We need to
(34:19):
stop it. Now we're going to dig into a little
bit some of the good immigration. And to kick that
off here, Donald Trump, there's.
Speaker 7 (34:27):
Never going to be a country like what we have
right now. And does that the Republicans have to talk
about it?
Speaker 4 (34:31):
And does that mean the H one B visa thing
will not be a big priority for your administration? Because
if you want to raise wages for American workers, you
can't flood the country with tens of thousands or hundreds
of hours.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
And also do have to bring in talent when.
Speaker 4 (34:45):
We're done talent, We don't have talent.
Speaker 7 (34:49):
No, you don't have you don't have certain talents, and
you have to people have to learn. You can't take
people off.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
Now, a lot of people on the right are taking
that one clip and going bananas that Donald trum Beer.
I want you to pay very close attention to what
he said. We don't have certain types of talent. That's
obviously true, all right, There's certain things that we just
don't do in the United States or haven't done for
a long time.
Speaker 7 (35:16):
Continue for an unemployment like an unemployment line is say
I'm going to put you into a factory who we're
going to make missiles or I'm gonna.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
Put do we ever do it before? Well, I'll give
you an example.
Speaker 7 (35:26):
In Georgia, they rated because they wanted illegal immigrants out.
They had people from from South Korea that made batteries
all their lives. You know, making batteries are very complicated.
It's not an easy thing and a very dangerous. A lot
of explosions, a lot of problems. They add like five
or six hundred people early stages to make batteries and
(35:48):
to teach people how to do it.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
All right, So that's the point that he's making.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
We're trying to get into building things that are global resources,
things like micro trips, things like battery these electric car
batteries is a big one. He cites that case of
the Hyundai plant in Georgia where they had a bunch
of illegal immigrants from South Korea that we're working in
this factory here in the United States.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
Now, he's completely correct.
Speaker 3 (36:14):
There is certain levels of precision manufacturing for specific products
that we in the United States want to get into.
That we should get into, but we just don't have
the skill set the average American worker just because we
haven't done it. Microships have for a long time, very
vast majority of microships have been made in other countries,
not by Americans. And that's precision manufacturing. That's not just
(36:37):
your standard manufacturing where you can put a guy on
the line and say, hey, as the part comes, you
twist that night and send it down the line. We
just haven't done precision manufacturing like this in the United States.
We haven't. We want to get into that, but that's
going to require skill sets we don't have. So what
do we do.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
We bring in small numbers of H one b VSAs
that's a temporary work visa to teach Americans how to
do that job so that Americans can get those good
paying jobs. And then we send the H one b's back.
We bring the H one b's in for a little bit,
have them teach Americans to do something we haven't done.
And when Donald Trump says we don't have that talent,
(37:18):
he's right, we don't. We can get it, we can
learn it, but we've got to learn it first. We
need teachers for that. That's true.
Speaker 3 (37:26):
Now people have been taking that clip and saying, oh,
Donald Trump is no longer maga. He says America doesn't
have any talent and we need to bring in H
one b's to do manufacturing. That's not what he's saying.
He's saying we don't have specific talents, which is obviously true.
And Laura Ingram says, well, how did we do it before?
When you and I were growing up. The good question, Laura,
(37:48):
we didn't you think there was massive amounts of electric
vehicle manufacturing in the forties and fifties when you and
Donald Trump were going up, there wasn't we have never
done those things here in the United States. Done manufacturing
in the United States that got offshore. It was offshore
fifty years ago. That's a long time. There's obviously going
(38:08):
to have to be some relearning of skills. I think
H one b's could be used in small numbers to
actually benefit the United States of America, and we shouldn't
shun that.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
Now.
Speaker 3 (38:19):
There's fatigue because the system has been abused, that's obviously true.
But just because the system has been abused doesn't mean
that we can't look at this. Okay, this program is
designed to help American manufacturing, American business. Let's see if
we could actually use it to do that. Donald Trump
is correct here. Could he have said it better? Probably,
(38:39):
But hey, there's many such cases.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
All Right.
Speaker 3 (38:41):
We'll be back on Wednesday with the podcast. Give us
a listen there and follow me on x Underscore. Ethan
Buchanan thank you very much for listening to the Next
Gen Report.
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