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Speaker 1 (00:00):
An ICE agent shot and killed a thirty seven year
old woman during a federal immigration enforcement operation in Minneapolis.
The woman was identified as Renee Nicole Good, a Minneapolis
resident and mother and a US citizen. And this is
how it apparently happened. You had an suv in an
area where ICE agents and vehicles were present, kind of
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blocking the road. An agent approached the driver's side window.
The suv begins to move, multiple shots are fired into
the vehicle. Good was struck in the head. The vehicle
continued a short distance and crashed into a park car.
She was unarmed and was not the target of the
enforcement operation, according to Minneapolis police, Here's what it sounded
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like the moment had happened. Es god Department of Homeland
Securities Terry Christy Nomes said Good weaponize to her vehicle.
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She said the incident was an act of self defense
and claimed the victim was basically a domestic terrorist.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
It was an active domestic terrorism. What happened was our
ICE officers were out in an enforcement action. They got
stuck in the snow because of the adverse weather that
is in Minneapolis. They were attempting to push out their
vehicle and a woman attacked them and those surrounding them
and attempted to run them over and ram them with
her vehicle.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Minneapolis Mayor and Jacob Frye had a bit of a
different take.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
They are already trying to spin this as an action
of self defense. Having seen the video of myself, I
want to tell everybody directly.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
That is bullet He went on to add this.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
To ICE, get the out of the apolis. We do
not want you here. Your stated reason for being in
this city is to create some kind of safety, and
you are doing exactly the.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Opposite of things. And we want to get your take
on this as well. If you're listening in South Florida,
pull up w IOD on your iHeartRadio app. If you're
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that microphone icon you hit that you can record up
to thirty seconds of your thoughts on this situation. I
don't know what the woman was thinking, just parking the
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suv in the middle of the road, thinking you can
block an ICE Immigration enforcement operation. Yeah, can't be doing that. No,
you can't. Like, if you want to stand on the
sidewalk and protest, you want to you know, videotape, what's
going down something like that. That's fine, but there's a
narrative that, you know, she was just expressing her First
Amendment rights. No, she was trying to She.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
Was interrupting what they were doing. She was antagonizing them.
She was putting herself in harm's way by.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Doing it right right now. Something else I want to
make sure is set the idea that that was some
form of domestic terrorism. I mean, give me a freaking break.
And the idea that she was attempting to kill the
ICE agent. I do not get that from the video.
It looked like once the ICE agents were approaching the
vehicle and she knew she was in big trouble, yeah,
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trying to back up and get the hell out of there. Yeah,
she panicked.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
She tried to back up, get the hell out of there.
She she didn't probably think about that she could hit
someone or anything like that. I don't think she cared
whether or not she hit someone or not. But yeah,
I mean, a terrible situation. I think two things can
be true. At the time tensions are so high. Put
yourself in a situation like that where you're thinking you're
being the tough girl and you're gonna block these ICE agents,
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you know, like stuff's gonna go down.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
And this is what happens when you have part of
the country trying to frame ICE agents and the border
patrol as like Nazis. And also when you have ICE
officials going into cities and acting like we've seen them
act in certain instances. You know, they got the masks on,
they're pulling up in vehicles that they're not intimidating, they're
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not marked like you know, what the hell is going on.
So it's created this environment in this country and this
is the result of that. Well, let's bring in our
national correspondent Rory O'Neil, who supports brought to you by
Mark Spain real Estate. So Rory, let's start in Minneapolis
with this ICE shooting. Give us an overview of what
we know this morning.
Speaker 5 (04:20):
Well, it's been remarkable to see how everyone interprets these
videos so very, very differently. But it's also been very
different because of the response here. You know, I appreciate
the borders are Tom Holman, he was on CBS News
last side, Yeah, and he was asked about this and
his response was, quote, it would be unprofessional to comment
on what I think happened in that situation. Let the
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investigation play out.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Isn't that refreshing. Yeah, Well, it's also much different from
how Department of Homeland Security Secretary Christy Nome put it.
You know, she labeled the victim, the thirty seven year
old woman domestic terrorist and said that she was trying
to go after the officers to essentially kill them. So
a much different take from Borders are Tom Homan and
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we have heard reports there's there's some friction between the
two of them, and clearly this is another instance where
they're not on the same page. Yeah, it seems to be.
Speaker 5 (05:21):
And yeah, so you're right, I've heard those similar reports
that the two don't work well together. Have certainly different
approaches to these kinds of things. But because Holman is,
you know, he's known to be sort of gruff and
and buy the book.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
I also think Homan is I think he's concerned about
the safety of his ICE agents all across the.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
Contrast situations like this. That's his concern is that sometimes
the rhetoric or things are putting them in more danger.
They're doing a tough job there are they've been vilified
and all that.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Yeah, he doesn't like that. No, that's why he didn't
like Alligator, alcatraz or Deportation. He didn't like the names
of those places. So he's been very consistent in that way.
Well right, Well, and Governor I always call her governor.
Speaker 5 (06:10):
Noam just out of habit And you know, she was
a politician and a governor and a member of Congress
and doesn't really have a law enforcement background, I guess
is the head of the there's South Dakota, the Dakota
National Guard. Yeah, but otherwise doesn't really have much of
a background specifically in this field.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
She did say so. She said the agent fired their
shots in self defense. And she also said this, which
I thought was interesting.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
The very same officer who was attacked today had previously
been dragged by an anti ice rider who had rammed
him with a car and drug him back in June.
He sustained injuries at that time as well.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
So I said, a few minutes ago, I don't know
what this thirty seven year old woman was thinking. You've
got kids, you've got a family. I don't know why
you would interject yourself into an ice operation like that,
blocking the road, which is an escalatory move. That's not
just Yeah, that's not just expressing your First Amendment rights.
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I also don't understand if that's the case. If the
ICE agent had been hit and dragged and injured previously,
why was he so close to the vehicle and why
did he get in front of the vehicle. That would
be a question I would have for him. And it
does sound like because you know, we're trying to be
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fair here, and multiple things can be true at the
same time, despite the fact this country can't handle that anymore,
it doesn't appear that these agents were operating based on
their training, despite I think Christy Nome kind of said
that they were. But there's clear guidelines not to engage
in vehicles, you know, like they did in this incident, right.
Speaker 5 (07:56):
And they are not police officers, right, and the rules
for them are different as ice officers. You know, we
get we use the blanket term law enforcement, but they
have different rules. They're only supposed to be enforcing immigration laws.
This was not a traffic stop. They can't they're not
supposed to be doing traffic stops. Well, last question two
is does the June incident make this guy more trigger happy?
Speaker 1 (08:19):
This This wasn't a traffic stop. I mean, she was
blocking the road.
Speaker 6 (08:23):
Road.
Speaker 4 (08:23):
Yeah, but he approached the vehicle and went to the
door exactly, so you can understand how the woman in
the vehicle, she probably panicked exactly.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
That's what I think. I don't think she was intentionally
looking to kill anybody. She backed up and started to
try to turn away. But also from that ice officer's
perspective at that moment, he's right there in front of
the vehicle or just to the side of it, and
so you could understand where he would think that his
life was potentially in danger, and maybe.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
He didn't realize that she was going to try to go.
He was probably coming over to help the other officer
who had approached her vehicle, and then when she started
to move, Yeah, he panicked.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
He pulled out his gun. Now this idea. I got
a talk back a moment ago saying the guy was
taken to the hospital and he was injured. I mean,
come on, you could see the guy walking up and
down the block after it happened. He might have gotten
brushed by the vehicle, but he wasn't seriously injured in
this incident. But just a freaking mess. And what the
hell is it with Minneapolis, Like seriously this happens not
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far from the George Floyd and stalks or walks.
Speaker 4 (09:28):
I think it's like terrible leadership and just ex escalate.
And yeah, people getting each other inflamed all the time
and it hasn't stopped.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
No, and the mayor's language doesn't help. No, no, no,
he looked like an He didn't look ready for prime
time the way he was talking last night. All right,
let me get to another story you're covering this morning.
We're joined by our national correspondent Rory O'Neil. You've got
the US seizing two oil tankers linked to Venezuela. This
was quite an operation involving the Navy, seals.
Speaker 5 (10:00):
And the Coast Guard actually taking the lead in this
as well. They had been pursuing this tanker halfway around
the world. You know. It was approaching Venezuela empty to
fill up on oil. We think is part of a
black market transaction. Saw the blockade and turned around in scatattle,
but was pursued by US forces. Finally they captured the ship.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
Yesterday.
Speaker 5 (10:21):
They had repainted their flag, going from the Bella one
to now a Russian flag tanker called Marinera. But yeah,
now that boat is seized by the US and it's
going to be brought back, we believe, to the Gulf
of America, Yeah, very soon.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
Russia, they tried to make it like it was their tanker,
and even if that were the case, I do think
it's interesting that Russia would be mad at someone for
taking something that isn't theirs by force, right, kind of ironic. Actually, yeah,
but they described this as a cat and mouse game
that was being played, and it's just hard to visualize
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because it's an oil tanker, like when you think a
cattl No, no, but luckily go ahead.
Speaker 5 (11:08):
Well yeah, and the fact this was captured off Iceland. Yeah, wow,
you know, this was ninety miles off Iceland, So I
mean that's how far they really kind of followed this
thing halfway around the world.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Yeah. Well, maybe they were thinking, we're going to take
Greenland any day now, so we could just bring it
to their Yeah, just talking. But luckily, all of our
service members they were okay in this mission. Rory O'Neill
our national correspondent with US this morning. Rory, thanks so much. Thanks. Ryan,
back to the hotline and bring in our White House correspondent.
Speaker 6 (11:39):
Now.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
John Decker is back with US. So, John, we learned
that Secretary of State Mark Or Rubio is going to
meet with Denmark's foreign minister next week in Washington. This
whole issue of Greenland is back in the news following
what's unfolded in Venezuela. What can you tell us about
what the administration wants here?
Speaker 6 (12:02):
Well, I think that what the administration wants is something
that's very gettable. And the reason I say that is
because the US and Denmark signed an agreement more than
half a century ago, back in nineteen fifty one, and
that agreement essentially gives the United States carte blanche to
establish as many military installations and military bases on the
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island of Greenland, the world's largest island, as it wants.
So to me, it's a head scratcher in terms of
what the President is saying about wanting that territory.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
Essentially, they have that territory.
Speaker 6 (12:37):
They have that territory to do what they want in
terms of the strategic importance of that. So Marc Rubio,
the Secretary of State, I think is a very good diplomat,
and I think his job really is to lower the
temperature between the US and Denmark, which controls Greenland. From
the place where it is right now.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Ryan, Now you've got a very difficult job these days.
He's basically running Venezuela. He's got to figure out this
Greenland situation. I mean, it's one thing after another for
Marco Rubik. Yeah, that's true. Now with Greenland, can you
give us just a brief overview why it's of such
strategic importance?
Speaker 6 (13:19):
You just need to look at it on the map
and see how strategically important it is when you view
on the map its place, how close it is to Russia,
how important the Arctic region is to establish military superiority.
And it's not anything new. The US actually had dozens
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of military installations and bases on Greenland during World War Two,
so we've always seen the strategic importance of Greenland. President
Trump also sees the importance of Greenland because of the
minerals that are on.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
That you'd like to develop.
Speaker 6 (13:56):
So I think that that is a big part of
the conversation. The President sometimes leaves out that is something
that he very much desires. But here's the thing there.
The Denmark government and the government of Greenland says, have said,
come on in, we will work with you to develop
the resources that we have here, So I think it's
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just a matter of lowering the temperature to get what
it is that the President wants out of that very
strategic island.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
And final question for you on this, has there been
any indication that sounds like based on your comments, this
hasn't been the case. But has there been any indication
that Denmark or Greenland won't go along with what we
want to do there?
Speaker 6 (14:42):
Well, it's not for sale. So if Mark Ruby.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
Has everything's for sale. John, come on now.
Speaker 6 (14:49):
Now, it's not like the other presidents that tried to
purchase Greenland and they have said Denmark has said thanks,
but no thanks, We're good, but you're welcome to come
in here an establish military basis. So it's not for sale.
So if it is that that President Trump wants, he's
not going to be successful there. And John Thune, one
of the President's top allies in the US Senate, has
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said on the record, look, military action to acquire Greenland
is off the table. That is not something that we
support here in the Senate.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
All right, Our White House correspondent John Decker with us
this morning. John, thanks so much, thank you, and don't
forget you can get more from John Decker on the
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