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February 14, 2025 • 35 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The night, Michael Brown joins me here.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
He's a former FAMA director of talk show host Michael Brown.

Speaker 1 (00:04):
Brownie, No, Brownie, You're doing a heck of a job
the situation with Michael Brown.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
You're a political express. On six point thirty K how
Denver's talk station.

Speaker 3 (00:22):
Morning Boys, Hey, Mike heard the Joe Peg show last night.
He felt like you put a lot more effort into
that interview than you do your daily show here. But
I still appreciate the infro and it was a good
listen you boys, have a great day and a great weekend.

Speaker 1 (00:39):
Now let's get to those textpay of relief shots. Bang
bang bang bang.

Speaker 4 (00:45):
You know what, you damn want to put more effort
into that because I actually liked Joe Peg.

Speaker 1 (00:52):
You, on the other.

Speaker 4 (00:53):
Hand, who cares. I'm just here occupying space. I'm just
here tolect to paycheck. I'm not here trying to do anything.
I'm trying to get by with a minimal amount of
effort that I can possibly can. Jimmy Christmas, you know,
considering what we pay you to listen to us, sit

(01:14):
down and shut up.

Speaker 1 (01:17):
So all of this stems from.

Speaker 4 (01:19):
An email I received overnight which I didn't read until
this morning about this guy that called in looking for
advice on how to start a new business or looking
for another job, and he obviously works in the government,
and his job's about to be eliminated, and he wants
a job where he doesn't really have any responsibilities like

(01:40):
he has now. Jimminy and the listener's point was, this
is the kind of culture that we've created where everybody
wants something for nothing. Now, I freely admit that if
somebody walked up and offered something to me free, my

(02:02):
first instinct would be, yeah, I'd like that. But then
my second instinct is, what's the catch?

Speaker 3 (02:09):
What?

Speaker 4 (02:10):
Because as you and I know, in terms of economics,
there is nothing free.

Speaker 1 (02:16):
But there is a cultural attitude in.

Speaker 4 (02:18):
The country that, for example, why do people buy lottery tickets.
Now I'm not saying I've never buy a lottery ticket,
that we've had pools around here that when you know,
when the lotto or the whatever they call the power ball,
whenever it's reached you know, like, you know, twenty bazillion

(02:39):
dollars and somebody in this building comes around and says, hey,
we're putting together a pool. Yeah, I'll throw a couple
of bucks in. I've also every time I've thrown a
couple of bucks in, I've wanted to say, and where's
the contract? Where's the contract that says for my two
dollars if we win that I get x percent of
whatever those winnings are? And who makes the decision whether

(03:01):
we take the payout or we take the cash? But
I you know, I you know, if it was Jesse
walking around asking, hey, do you want to chip in
on the pool, I would demand the contract.

Speaker 2 (03:13):
Yeah, it's a good idea. I would not be here.

Speaker 4 (03:16):
You would never show back up. I mean we you
know you, you change your name, passport and everything. We
never see you again. There are some people in the
building that, for some foolish reason, I might actually trust
that they would come back the next day and say, okay,
we won. Let's take a vote. Do you want to
take out? You want to take the cash? Do you
want to take the payout? What do you want to do?
And here's what everybody gets. Now, let's figure out how

(03:37):
we're going to go to the lottery office and collect it.
But Jesse ain't one of those people that I would
trust to do that. But we all want something for free.
And when and when you look at you know, and
of course the lottery people, their response is, well, you
got to play to win, and if you if you
don't play, you have zero chance of winning. Well, zero

(04:00):
chance of winning is almost the same, not quite, but
almost the same as having won in a bazillion chances
of winning. The ads are just not in your favor.
I know someone might win, but have you ever knowed
how many times somebody doesn't win? But we've we've been

(04:20):
and what I think what flabbergasts mean. I've used the
word flabbergas twice now in this program, at least today.
I think what flabbergas me is when I'm in a
convenience store, for that matter, in a grocery line at
King Soupers because it's more convenient.

Speaker 1 (04:37):
I am always amazed at the people.

Speaker 4 (04:40):
And I know you can't judge a book by its cover,
but I look at someone and I look at what
they're purchasing, and then look at I know, but shame
on me, I'm freely omitting this. And then I look
at how they're dressed, and they appear to be, you know,
probably not as fortunate as I I am. We're as

(05:01):
fortunate as you are, and they're probably scraping by to
buy what groceries they are. And then what do they do.
They throw in a couple of lotto tickets and I
just think that three dollars. I mean, I don't know,
can of soup, something something other than And I know
it's a dream, but it's a.

Speaker 1 (05:22):
It's a.

Speaker 4 (05:24):
It's a wet dream. It's not real. It's just not real.
So here's here are the Democrats opposing what we all
elected someone to come in and be a disruptor. And
you know how much I love disruptors. And they now

(05:45):
claim that Trump is causing a constitutional crisis by eliminating USAID.
As I pointed out yesterday, we had or maybe it
was the day before yesterday. Remember the woman in Thailand,
she was a refugee from MEMR and she died for
lack of oxygen. Well I double checked that story last night,

(06:06):
and yes they have a port for that. Non government
organization has a stock portfolio worth ninety eight million dollars
and the CEO makes one point two or one point
nine million, I forget per year, and most of the
c suite, in other words, the CEO, the CFO, the

(06:29):
chief operating officer, the chief information technologist, all of the
muckety MUCKs in that NGO are pulling down six and
seven figures in salary, and then you're telling me you
let a what You let one woman die for lack
of oxygen because Elon Musk cut off your fund or
didn't cut off your funding, but Frozer funding. They rely

(06:53):
They democrats, and for that matter of the cabal are
relying on your ignorance of how things actually operate.

Speaker 1 (07:00):
In the real world.

Speaker 4 (07:01):
To think that one seventy one year old woman died
in Thailand because she didn't get oxygen, I still, to
this day, the more I dig into that story, think
you purposely let that woman die, Because you can't tell
me in all of Bangkok, in all a bank, and

(07:22):
I've been to Bangkok, I've been all over Bangkok, you couldn't.
You can't tell me you couldn't have found an oxygen
supply someplace from someone else, or you couldn't have found
a concentrator to at least put that woman on temporary
a on a concentrator to give her the oxygen she
needed for a temp on a temporary basis. You did
it on purpose? I believe they did it on purpose,

(07:45):
or the story is completely fabricated because they just wanted
a story so you would be like, oh my gosh, look,
Elon Musk and Donald troub are killing people. But let
me just remind you there is no constitutional crisis. We
elected Trump as president, and he, Donald Trump, not Congress,
exercises all authority over the executive Branch, including USAID, the

(08:08):
Department of Education, the Department of Defense, the Treasury, Department,
the Internal Revenue Service, everything that's under the executive branch.
Donald Trump exercises all authority over them. He has clear
constitutional authority to audit the finances overseen by the Treasury
and every other agency, and that includes assigning that audit
to whoever he chooses. The Constitution grants Congress oversight duties,

(08:37):
but those powers do not include members of Congress being
allowed to enter any executive branch building whenever they please,
just like you and I cannot. Now, you and I
can walk into the Department of Education. You can walk
into my old stomping grounds. You can walk into DHS.
You can walk into the fame offices at DHS. You

(08:59):
can walk in and you'll be greeted by three or
four things you'll be greeted by a reception desk, you'll
be greeted by at least two security guards, and you'll
be greeted by a magnetometer. You know why, because there
are crazy people out there. You can't walk in. This

(09:21):
is a private building, this is the private sector, and
you can't just willing nelly walk into these studios. Thank god,
you can't, because many of you would like to shoot me.
So you can't walk into a federal courthouse without showing
an ID and going through a magnet that. You may

(09:41):
not show an ID in a federal courthouse, but you
have to check in, sign in, and you've got to
go through a magnetometer. So for members of Congress to
stand and pound on a door at the Department of
Education and scream and scream and scream, that's that's all
you got.

Speaker 1 (10:00):
Now, this doesn't.

Speaker 4 (10:01):
Mean that as they go through this effort that they should.

Speaker 1 (10:06):
Ignore court orders.

Speaker 4 (10:09):
For example, I firmly believe that children under the age
of eighteen should not be permitted to go through transgender
surgeries or be given puberty blockers, even with the consent
of the parents. There are lots of things we don't
allow parents to do children to do even with the

(10:29):
consent of their parents now in the home, and maybe
something different, But we don't allow children in the age
of twenty one to drink. Now at home, parents may
give them you want some wine with dinner, you want
to beer with daddy. You can't control that, unless, of course,
it spills out into a school system or out into

(10:52):
the public. But drinking, in other words, which is harmful,
even in moderation, it's still we know it's harmful. Smoking,
we know, even in moderation is harmful, but it doesn't
spill over into well it could. It could be life altering.

(11:15):
That first cigarette and those continued cigarettes could almost ultimately
lead to lung cancer, and you could end up dying
of lung cancer. So we don't we tell parents you
can't lay your kids to smoke. We'd allow them to
drive now out on the farm, out on the ranch.
I kind of got it, but it's still illegal, but
we still do it. But when you do something that

(11:38):
says life altering and irreversible, as cutting some boy's penisa
or giving some young teenage girl a double mask, stect
to me, when she doesn't have cancer, she doesn't up
the bracket. Jean but said we're gonna go cut both
of her boobs off simply because she's confused as she
goes through puberty. It's in saying, you know, this is

(12:07):
not new. I probably cided Ecclesiastes more than anything else,
there is nothing new under the sun. Do you recall
that under Obama's administration that USAID was caught using an
HIV program to try to foment rebellion in Cuba. They
used Eco Health Alliance. Does that sound familiar as a

(12:29):
path through organization to funnel more than one million dollars
to Wuhan Institute of Virology, which was conducting illegally risky
gain a function experiment that, in my opinion, caused the
COVID pandemic. I think that one of the major reasons
that Trump was elected was precisely because we believed that

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he really would reform government, and that meant rooting out abuse, fraud, waste,
trying to make it more effective, more efficient. And there's
a large body of evidence, not just USAID, but our
beloved Department of Defense and the no so beloved Department
of Education, the EPA, for example. We'll get to lee

(13:18):
Zelden in a minute. Leez Elden uncovered, well, I forget
the number twenty billion, fifty billion dollars. At some point,
it's real money that the Biden administration was pushing out
the door to their preferred constituents that ran in goos
in hopes that the Trump administration wouldn't be able to
find it. Leez Elden found it.

Speaker 1 (13:41):
So the.

Speaker 4 (13:44):
Point that Peggs was asking me last night, that I
want to emphasize to you is yes, I saw this,
and anytime I made it at I shouldn't say anytime,
but most of the time, when I made an effort
to cut what I thought was wasteful spending, unnecessary spending,

(14:07):
or spending that was completely outside the bounds of the
enabling legislation of FEMA, many times I was spurned. And
many times, now oftentimes it wasn't the White House. The
White House Mitch Daniel, who was the director of OMB
at the time went on to be Governor of Indiana,

(14:28):
I think actually the president of Notre Dame for a while,
or some university in the Indiana almost always supported my efforts.
If I went to Mitch Daniels, if I walked into
the White House and said, Mitch, look Congress wants me
to spend X number of millions of dollars on this,
and I think is a total waste of money because

(14:48):
of X y Z. He say, okay, well, then don't
spend it, and they would rescind that appropriations. For me, oftentimes,
I would have to go to Congress and sit down
in front of you know, I would sit down with
whoever the chairman was of that particular appropriations committee, and
I'd say, look, this is money that we don't need,
this is money that we shouldn't be spending. And Republicans

(15:09):
would say to me, why can't I can't support you
on that because I and of course you know, because
and I think this is why I wasn't well liked
in DC. I'd ask, well, why not? Now I knew
why not, but I wanted them to tell me. I
knew why they didn't want to cut that spending because

(15:30):
some of that money was going to be spent in
their congressional district and they didn't want to hear the
bitching and moaning from some NGO about the money that
you know, I went to Congress and said we shouldn't
be spending this money. So they couldn't agree to it
because then that NGO was going to bitch at them,
and that NGO probably controlled you know, he either had
a union behind them or they had some you know,

(15:51):
constituency constituency behind them that they wanted to make sure
that they still got their vote come election time. But
something has changed, and I firmly believe this that Trump's
four years in the wilderness showed him that if you're

(16:11):
going to do what voters want, which is you know,
and quite honestly, I think the COVID spending, which established
a new baseline for just our general budget. Instead of
you know, having a four trillion dollar budget, we had
a seven to eight trillion dollar budget. That's insanity, that's
true fiscal insanity. And then the inflation that came with it,

(16:35):
now that's going to take time to reverse, but the
inflation that came with it, and the doting old fool
it was Joe Biden. We all looked at that and said,
we cannot sustain this, we cannot keep doing this, and
so we voted in overwhelming numbers, not quite Reaganesque numbers,
but close enough. And now he's doing what we ask

(16:59):
and the Democrats are absolutely apoplectic about it. As recently
as twenty twenty one, the media acknowledged the obvious. That year,
The New York Times, the New York Times, not the Post,
published an article that was headlined, usaid to Central America

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has not slowed migration. Can Kamala Harris and The Times
acknowledged that quote. Experts say the reasons that years of
eight have not curbed migration is in part because much
of the money is handed over to American companies, which
swallow a lot of it for salaries, expenses, and profits,
often before any services are actually delivered, precisely the reason

(17:45):
that Trump shot down USAID. The Times continued from twenty
sixteen to twenty twenty, eighty percent of the American finance
development projects in Central America were entrusted to American contractors,
according to data provided by the USAID. It's the same
story even in education. The National Assessment of Education Progress

(18:08):
we talked about some of the test scores yesterday showing
yet another decline in reading and continuing flatline in math
for eighth graders.

Speaker 1 (18:16):
What is the billions of.

Speaker 4 (18:18):
Dollars that we have spent on the Department of Education
done to improve the education of youth in this country
not a damn thing. So we've kind of reached, as
I've always said we would at some point, we've reached
that tipping point. Just mention a text message and then
kind of tell you what we're going to do, probably

(18:38):
in the next hour. And because we have taxpayer relief
shots today, I want you to tune it in on
Saturday because I'll probably go in more depth on this
topic on Saturday. But Gooba number zel two three eight rites, Michael,
I can understand President Trump going along with these rulings
for now, but not forever. Court rulings, these injunctions, timporary

(19:02):
restraining orders that have been imposed preventing him from enforcing
some of the executive orders. The text continues, this is
the fourth branch of government that he was elected to
get rid of, these unelected federal judges. How you can
judge shop is beyond me, But that needs to be
brought under control immediately, even if it requires ignoring court

(19:23):
orders Seventy seven eleven rites. What happens if two separate
district court judges issue conflicting orders, say one stops Potus's
executive order and another says it's within his authority. Can
one judge throw out another's ruling. Those are all complicated
yet simple answers that will take a while to explain.

(19:48):
And I say they're simple because from a lawyer's point
of view, it's pretty easy to understand the process by
which this is going to play out. From a layman's
point of view, it's difficult to understand. Why does it
take so long and why do we have to go
through all this rigamaro. I'm going to try to explain
that partly in the next hour and in depth on Saturday.

(20:10):
But right now I'm gonna go back to Bobby Kennedy,
or go to Bobby Kennedy, because with his confirmation as
the new Secretary of Health and Human Services, Trump has
done something dramatic here. You think about I'm trying to
think of everyone. I think every RUSS vote at omb

(20:33):
Pete Hagesath at Defense, Tulca Gabbard as d and I
Linda McMahon at at Education, assuming she gets approved, which
I think she will. You got Bergmann at Interior, Chris
Wright over at at Energy. Chris Wright is gonna be fascinating,

(20:57):
wholes Elden at E p A Am Bondi as Attorney General,
Cash Btel who should be confirmed at FBI.

Speaker 1 (21:08):
Who am I leaving out?

Speaker 4 (21:10):
But anyway, you get the drift that every single one
of those individuals is a disruptor. Every single one of
those individuals is coming in with the idea that it's
not going to be business as usual. We're going to
have to break some of the China. We're gonna have
to buy some new china. We're going to have to

(21:32):
And I hate the phrase, but I think it's applicable here.
We're going to have to think outside the box about
how we approach some of these issues. And we're going
to have to I think, most importantly question everything, which
just as a parenthetical, I think that many Americans are

(21:55):
uncomfortable asking questions. We've become so enamored and I think
brain dead by this amazing society that we live in.
You know, it's cold out, uh, And yeah, it's cold
when I go walk the dogs.

Speaker 2 (22:17):
But through.

Speaker 1 (22:20):
Fossil fuels, I can.

Speaker 4 (22:23):
I can dress up and stay as warm as an eskimo.
And and and the cold may still bother me because
I just don't like the cold, but I can. I
can obviously deal with it.

Speaker 2 (22:37):
I can.

Speaker 1 (22:37):
I can.

Speaker 4 (22:39):
I can jump in a car that has heated seats,
and here heated steering wheels.

Speaker 3 (22:45):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (22:45):
Come on, I'm I'm sitting here with all these electrics out.
Jesse's computer crashed earlier, but you know my laptop hasn't crashed.

Speaker 1 (22:57):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (22:57):
I just wait for one of the iHeart computeraders to crash.
They're a bazillion years old. And we go to the
grocery store. You know, timer need's one thing at the store.
I can run to a grocery store, boom in and out,
get it as easy as pie.

Speaker 1 (23:15):
And so I think we we somehow.

Speaker 4 (23:17):
And we get fed so much stuff from the cabal
that when somebody questions something, uh oh. Which is why
you listen to this program, which is why you're a
consumer of conservative talk radio, because we ask questions. We
want to know the who want rare, when and why
about issues that are going on around us, and we

(23:39):
address those head on. You know, when when Doris kerns
a good one who is an excellent writer, but is
a liberal, when she popularized the concept of Abraham Lincoln's
cabinet as a team of rivals, that's the name of
the book, Team of Rivals. Trump has assembled a team

(24:05):
of brokennesss a team of disruptors.

Speaker 1 (24:12):
Along a new house.

Speaker 4 (24:14):
In a twenty twenty two essay, divided American politics into
status quois those who believe that our institutions are essentially
functional and that they're doing exactly what we want them
to do.

Speaker 1 (24:30):
And then there are the brokenness.

Speaker 4 (24:33):
Those are people like me who hold that our current institutions,
the elites, the intellectual and cultural life, and the quality
of services that many people depend upon, have been hollowed out,
that they've gone off the rails, that they've expanded way beyond.
I mean, Mission Creep is no longer Mission Creep. It's
mission on an eight lane expressway with no speed limit. So,

(24:59):
more than any other ideology, a sense of radical critique
is what has brought together a team that when you
think about those names that I just listed, how much
more disparate can you get than you know, a billionaire
and then a couple of Democrats turned Republicans or someone

(25:24):
who comes from the rank and file of the military
like Pete Haggs's, and you say, look, you know how
things work at the worker B level. Now I want
you to go in and I want you to manage
to that worker B level. I want you to go
in there and make warriors out of the Department of Defense.

(25:50):
Think about Bobby Kennedy Junior, Robert F. Kennedy Junior. There's
not a more monarchical family and American politics, with maybe
the exceptions of the Bushes, than the Kennedy's. You know,

(26:12):
his his his life starting out as an environmental, environmental activist,
which is where I first got to know Bobby Kennedy Jr.
His Riverkeeper group, that kind of environmental activism. While I

(26:34):
may not have liked it, you know what was going
on in his head. It grew into a suspicion of
American healthcare. It grew into suspicion about our food supply,
our food chain. Now he's always tilted against the windmill

(26:54):
of the military industrial complex. He's always tilted against the
windmill of corporate America. And he has mused that somehow
that the CIA was involved in the assassinations of his
uncle and his father, and he's wrapped himself in these
outsider themes. Okay, I'll accept that, aren't you. I mean, anytime,

(27:17):
as I've said before, anytime you think about a conspiracy theory,
there's always at least one element of truth in any
conspiracy theory, because you have to have some element of
truth to build around that one little spark of truth
in order to develop the rest of the conspiracy. So
while I think some conspiracy in fact, I think some
of his conspiracy theories are absolutely nuts, I recognize that

(27:41):
it's the mindset, it's the way of thinking, it's the
way of analyzing when when you push the Republican Senate,
the Republican controlled Senate, when you push them to vot
for these nominees because you've won the popular vote, you've

(28:04):
won by a good majority the electoral college, and you
have looked at, as politicians will do, you've looked at
the tabs of those voting results, and you realize that,
oh my gosh, he got the youth vote. He got
thirty five percent of the youth vote, more than any
of the Republican in the history of the country. He

(28:25):
pulled more blacks in Hispanics, more Asians, he pulled more
minorities in ethnics, ethnicities into his coalition, He pulled Democrats
into his coalition. He turned all of the battleground states
to him. If you're an elected senator, you got to
stand up and take notice and That's why as much

(28:48):
as I've criticized John Thune for sitting on some of
these or letting Democrats delay some of these, nonetheless he's
accomplished more than other majority leaders. Mitch McCollum, we're looking
at you and getting his previous nominees in the first
administration confirmed.

Speaker 1 (29:06):
And what's amazing about it is you look.

Speaker 4 (29:09):
Back at all of those original nominees in Trump one
point oh, those are all establishment figures. Trump two point oh,
those are all anti establishment figures. Those are all disruptors.
So this, this new approach that Trump is putting in

(29:31):
and that Congress is putting in, is going to cause
a lot of handwringing inside the Beltway because all of
the sacred cows are now subject to being butchered. And
I say, hmm, even if hold me to this, even

(29:53):
if one of my sacred cows I'm not sure that
I have any, But even if I have a sacred
cow and he gets butchered, if that means that as
a whole we fundamentally transform the way we're doing business now, then.

Speaker 1 (30:07):
Count me in.

Speaker 4 (30:10):
Well, no one, thank you, I never mind. I can't
talk about it. What PAGs that we're talking about off
air because we pre recorded that last night. Uh, while
we were talking about our frustrations with some of the
things that we have to deal with. It's always nice
to hear that, you know, your frustrations are the same
as somebody else's frustrations, and so it's like, you.

Speaker 2 (30:30):
Know, industry universal, Yes, it's the.

Speaker 4 (30:32):
Universal misery loves company. Right, what are you talking about?
You lead the easy life.

Speaker 2 (30:43):
I get out of this building. I do you get
all those.

Speaker 4 (30:46):
Giant pay raises, you get to go, you know, just
living the life around all glitz and glamour. You know,
the best way I like about your job is at
the end of the season when I see everything on
Facebook about you're out of there and you're going fishing, hunting,
your You've hit the mountains, You've disappeared into the wilderness.

Speaker 2 (31:08):
I am off the grid for at least three and
a half weeks.

Speaker 1 (31:11):
It's hilarious because you you pretty much man off.

Speaker 4 (31:14):
You do you kind of announced on Facebook, like, you know, hey,
I'm history, I'll see you, y'a, I'll see you when
I get back.

Speaker 2 (31:20):
I'll be back a little bit before Thanksgiving, right, which
makes up for.

Speaker 4 (31:26):
The you know, for the one hundred and eighty What
what do'll be up to now? One hundred and eighty.

Speaker 2 (31:29):
Eight games, one sixty two, one sixty two lost spring training?

Speaker 1 (31:33):
But oh yeah, he counts those. You know I should come.

Speaker 4 (31:36):
I need to come down for a spring training. I
need to go see my daughter. Anyways, Yeah, do it.

Speaker 1 (31:40):
I'll do that. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (31:40):
Those are your stomping grounds down there.

Speaker 1 (31:42):
Yep, yep, i'll do that.

Speaker 4 (31:44):
I thought about you when I was down there over Christmas,
drove by walking stick, talking stick, bumping stick, old man stick,
whatever it is.

Speaker 2 (31:52):
It's talking stick.

Speaker 1 (31:53):
Yeah. All right.

Speaker 4 (31:56):
So one last thing I want to make about these disruptors.
When you disrupt, you also have to replace. And so
this is going to be the challenge that I think
they're going to face. Is it's easy to go in
and break things, and it's easy to go in and
say this doesn't work. But what you have to do then,

(32:19):
and this is why we you know, whether this is
divine intervention or not, I'll leave to you, but I
think this is why, for at least the next two years,
we have Republican majorities. As slim as they may be,
nonetheless they are Republican majorities. And so in that two
year period. You have to break things and show that

(32:43):
you are on the path. Even if you can't get
everything done in terms of replacing or remaking or redoing
or reinventing something, you've got to show that you're on
that pathway. Because as these cabinet secretaries as they go in,
they're going to face exactactly the same thing that I faced.
You go in and there are ten objectives that you

(33:04):
want to accomplish, and then you're going to realize that,
uh oh, the bureaucracy is so embedded that I'm going
to have to whittle that down and I'm going to
have to try to accomplish five, six, seven or eight
of those things. And so now I've got to prioritize them.
And while you're prioritizing them and going to the chopping
block on those five sixty seven or eight things that

(33:24):
you want to get rid of, what do you do
over here on the positive side to then make it
work better. That's the biggest challenge they're going to face,
and I think Kennedy's appointment, I think he faces the
biggest challenge of all. It's easy to walk into USAID
and to point out all the bad things there, But

(33:47):
I forget how many thousands and thousands of employees that
HHS has. I mean, when you think about it, you've
got Social Security, Medicare or Medicaid, You've got nih you
got into the n I A I D. And that's
just the start of everything that's under him. And if
you want to fix those institutions at the same time

(34:11):
that you're adopting the make America Healthy Again agenda, that's
going to take an awful lot of effort. A lot
of effort. Now, the good thing I heard Kennedy say
yesterday is that he has put around him, and Trump
has put around him as the head of the FDA,
the n I H, the NI AI D, people that

(34:33):
agree with this disruptor attitude. But Kennedy's already put together
advisory committees that are that are going to help him
navigate through this behemoth called HHS. All I guess I'm
saying to all of you is get ready, and don't
keep your expectations reasonable and keep moving forward.
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