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January 14, 2025 • 35 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The first story I saw regarding what happened Saturday night
in downtown Denver was just that a flight attendant on
a layover had died in a senseless crime. It did
not mention that her throat was slit and that there
were two other stabbings. And this happened between five and
six pm on Saturday night. Why was a DPD warning

(00:21):
us that there was a killer out there could have
prevented what happened Sunday night, and the Mayor's office was silent.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
Then I really do have deep, serious, legitimate concerns about
that young lady's Do we know whether or not she
works for the NSA? Do we know whether or not
she is indeed eavesdropping on not just the studio. I

(00:51):
guess I need to call an independent because I can't
rely on my buddies in the NSA. I need to
call an independent surveillance expert to come in and check
both my home, my laptops, my desktops, my phones, everything,
because I think somebody's listening in and tapping into and
therefore trying to get the most relevant talkbacks before we

(01:13):
start the program. And it's starting to really kind of
piss me off.

Speaker 3 (01:16):
She has come to the studio, so she may have
placed a microphone somewhere.

Speaker 2 (01:20):
Well, I need I need this studio swept, like.

Speaker 3 (01:23):
There are five microphones in that studio right now, right.

Speaker 2 (01:26):
But I think my larger concern is so the story
I want to start off with today has to do
with that and steamboat springs. And but I so yesterday,
at some point during the program, I forget when it was,
Dragon whispered in my ear something about the top of
the hour news, which I rarely listen to because I'm

(01:47):
busy doing other things, like, you know, taking a sip
of dite coke or taking a whiz or doing something,
you know, really important things that are necessary scratch to
the integrity of the program. But he mentioned to me
that the Ron Johnson, who is the run Ron Johnson,
let's see, I'm going to here somewhere. Ron Thomas, the

(02:10):
chief of police for the city in County of Denver,
had made a statement or he had been quoted as
making a statement at the top of the hour news
about not going to Denver, downtown Denver because of uh, well,
don't go to Denver except under these special circumstances. I
want to tell you about Yah I'll tell yeah, I'll
tell you about that in a seconds. So so Dragon

(02:31):
tells me that I look at Dragon like, God, that's stupid,
and I make a mental note that I've got to
go find that story later. So here's where my paranoia
steps in. I go home, I do some other things,
and then later in the afternoon, I sit down and
I'm I'm drafting my Michael Brown minute, and I'm thinking, oh,

(02:53):
you know, that would make that would probably make a
good minute. So I find the story and I read
through it, and another friend of mine has sent me
a couple of other news stories that tie into the
stabbings in downtown Denver, and so I think, oh, I
think that's how I'll start the program out today. Uh,
we just recorded the Michael Brown Minute, which you'll be

(03:13):
able to hear over on Freedom when you turn over
to listen to Freedom after you finished listening to me,
And and then we get this talk back. It talks
about that, and I want to know how it happens.
There are no coincidences at khow there may be coincidences
in Washington, d C. But there are not here. And

(03:34):
now my paranoia level is kind of really exacerbated, kind
of it's kind of boiling over, so h so let
me do the story. Well, you'll just get get her
on the line and just let her do the story.
You know, I need to go pee anyway, so just
let her do the story and I'll go. You know,

(03:54):
I asked somebody over there on the on the printer, if,
assuming the printer is working today, it's usually out of paper.
But if the printer's working, I got some papers I
need to pick up. Yesterday, as I said, the top
of the Hour news ran a cover story about stabbings
in downtown Denver. It's an amazing story. And what's amazing

(04:16):
about it is I could not find a video. And
now this morning, when I go back to the KDVR
website to find the original story, the original story has
been replaced by an updated story, and it doesn't contain
all the details. But yes, indeed, a flight attendant on
a layover works with American Airlines, had decided that since

(04:39):
she had never been in Denver before, that she might
just take, you know, let's take a cabern uber or
something and go downtown Denver and let's you know, let's
have I'll have dinner somewhere and then I'll go back
to the hotel near the airport where they do their layovers,
and then I'll go back to work next morning. Except
she never showed back up. And she didn't show back
up because this idiot whose name will go un mentioned,

(05:02):
had decided that it was time to stab and kill
two people and injure two more, including slitting her throat.
So it's not like any other Democrat run city, any
other large city in America. And the headline at KDVR
yesterday blared this suspect arrested in sixteenth Street mall stabbings

(05:26):
that killed two, injured two. Now the stupid part, yet,
the part that matters the most, particularly if you're a
downtown resident, you're a downtown worker, or you're a downtown
business owner, was this classic quote from Denver's Chief of Police,
Ron Thomas, who warned people to be vigilant in the

(05:48):
downtown area. Is I'd like to speak to the Denver
Chamber of Commerce, for that matter, the Colorado State Chamber
of Commerce, or any chamber of commerce in Colorado. Is
that now your motto? Hey, tourists, come to Denver, but
be vigilant. She said this quote, I would say that

(06:11):
if like the word if I would say that, if
you're going to be in the downtown area or really
anywhere in the city. So he would say that, if
you're stupid enough to go to downtown Denver, or if
you're really stupid enough to go anywhere in Denver, I

(06:32):
think it's best that you be with somebody. Now, when
I read that quote as dragon stole the thunder from me,
that's what we used to call the buddy system. You know,
if you're going to go hiking in the Indian Peaks wilderness,
you need to let people know, you know your trail,
your path, where you're headed, what campground you're going to,

(06:53):
maybe have a SAT phone with you, some means of communication.
Or if you're going to go swimming, you know, if
you're swinging I mean out in the Pacific Ocean trying
to escape the fires as they swoop down into Malibu,
that you might want to, you know, use the buddy system.
If you're going into a dangerous area, you might want
to use the buddy system. And that's pretty much what

(07:13):
the chief told you. So I would just say say
it out loud, chief, just don't go to downtown Denver.
Don't go to Denver, unless you've got a buddy with you,
use a buddy system if you're going into downtown Denver,
jimminy Christmas. Do these people ever stop and think about
what they're saying? Now? I firmly believe that if you

(07:34):
go anywhere, I don't care, I don't care. If you're
in the Vatican, you ought to, you know, be aware
of your surroundings, situational aware. So many people go through
not just tourists, not just going to and from work,
but I mean everywhere. People just totally lack situational awareness.

(07:57):
They're just just in the little world. You know. I
get the radio on, I'm listening to Michael Brown rant
and rave about crime. And you know what's what's really
funny is here I am ranting and raving about crime
in a Democrat run city as you drive to work,
or you're putting around your house or listening, and then
you're gonna get in your car, you're going to go,
and you're not gonna pay any attention to your surroundings.

(08:18):
As I sit here and tell you, hey, they're slashing
the throats of flight attendants in downtown Denver, and the
police Chief Ron Thomas says that if you're if that,
if you're going to go to downtown Denver. Now, if
you live in downtown Denver, you know, if you're one
of the cool people that live in one of the
high rides, if you're in Low High or Lie Ho

(08:40):
or lie somewhere, or you know, Low Do or wherever
you might be, don't go outside. Don't go to Starbucks,
you know, because now you've got to buy something at Starbucks.
You can't just you know, loiter around. You've actually got
to buy something, and you can't use the resturing. But
whatever you're going to do, you're working, you're working downtown,
you're a tourist. Whatever, be sure and use the buddies system.

(09:00):
Now what does that have to do with Steamboat Springs. Well,
I'm having dinner with a friend on Saturday night and she,
excuse me, at my throat's really bugging me this morning,
and she starts telling me about a couple of cases
up in Route County, now Route County, Steamboat Springs, Route County. All,
that's that's the area we're talking about, another place where

(09:23):
all the hoyity toys go. You know. It's it's it's
like the it's like the Aspen, you know, just slightly
below aspro it's pretty cool, but not it's not Aspen,
and it's you know, and tell your ride it's too
far away. But Steamboat, well, I guess you can get
flights to tell your ride. And now you of course
you have flights to Aspen. And now I think we
have flights that's steamboat too. But to prove that it's

(09:48):
not just the front range, listen to this story. This
comes from uh steamboat radio, which congratulations, I didn't know
steamboat had boat radio. Stephen O'Brien was sentenced in Route
County Court Thursday in the en the vehicular homicide death

(10:09):
of thirty four year old Emily Tin trip Daley and
the aggravated vehicular unlawful termination of a pregnancy. In other words,
he killed the kid too, he killed the baby. Those
are the two charges of the original thirteen filed. O'Brien

(10:29):
was sentenced to ten years You think in prison, right, No,
he killed a pregnant thirty four year old mother and
he got ninety days in jail and ninety six hours
of public service. Then the story goes on to say

(10:52):
this now ten years of supervised probation. Well, whoop pooped
to do put his ass in prison. But I guess
in Route County we have liberal das and liberal judges,
and we have a bunch of liberal do gooders that
don't think that you You you're drunk, and you kill

(11:13):
a thirty four year old mother, Emily Tintrip Daley and
her baby, and you give them ninety days in jail
in ninety six hours of public service. The District Attorney's office,
according to the story, says the plea offer and the
resolution of the case came after quote serious and ongoing

(11:33):
conversations with Dealey's husband, Mikey Michael Dealey, and her family,
who wished to see the matter resolve short of trial. Well,
I understand that, but sometimes the job of the DA,
you know, you want to take into consideration the victims' families.

(11:55):
But that does not mean that if you're going to
enter into a plea deal that it has to be Okay,
we'll give you, you know, three months in jail. So
let's see, today is Tuesday, January fourteenth, as we're broadcasting,
So January to February to March to April, so springtime. Oh,
it'll be springtime, just before tax day. Well, he's been

(12:17):
sentenced before this, but it'll be you know, springtime. So
as the flowers start to bloom, you know, as the
wild flowers in the fields, you know, in the in
the foothills around the steamboat begin to bloom, as the
rivers saw and begin to flow, as the you know,
the as the animals come down to you know, feed

(12:37):
in the pastures and everything, this guy will be let
out of prison. The crash happened on July twenty third
of twenty twenty three on the Highway forty, just west
of Steamboat. But one factor that doesn't seem to be
taking into consideration is that the Deallely's dog, named Gracie,

(12:58):
was also killed. So he played guilty of December thirty.
First Judge O'Hara was prepared to sentence him that day,
but O'Brien gave short notice of the upcoming plea, so
the DA's office asked to wait until January nine so
the family could attend and speak. They gave impact statements.

(13:18):
They did all this by blah blah blah blah. But
I don't care. If the family wanted to avoid a trial,
that's fine. You go to the defense council and you say, look,
you the guy, the guy killed somebody and killed a
baby and killed a dog. We'll give you ten years. Yeah,

(13:43):
and then you know after that ninety days probation. No,
they gave ninety six days of probation. I mean ninety
six days in jail and ten years of probation, the
exact opposite. But now let's do this. Let's also go
to Route County again. From the fourteenth Judicial District today.

(14:05):
This was posted on Facebook again, sent to me by
my friend who used to live in Steamboat from the
fourteenth Judicial District today in the court room of Judge
Michael O'Hara, the third. Well, Michael O'Hara, the third. Yes,
let's see the same Michael O'Hare that did the other one. Yes.
Jessica Lear sentenced to community corrections for delivering fentanyl that

(14:29):
caused death. Oh so, now you're a drug dealer and
you deliver fentanyl and it causes the death of somebody,
and you get community service. Jessica Lear, age thirty four,
was sentenced today to five years of community corrections after
a sentencing hearing in Route County District Court. The sentence

(14:50):
was imposed after missus Lear entered a guilty plead to
the distribution of a controlled substance fentanyl, a Class two
drug felony, for acts that caused the death of Serena
and Nichols on March five and Steamboat. During sentencing, the
DA's office recommended the court's sentence miss Lear two between
four and a half and five years of prison for

(15:10):
her actions that caused the death of Serena Nichols. Per
the Colorado Office of Community Corrections website, Community Corrections provides
a sentence replacement alternative in lieu of prison incarceration for
criminal defendants convicted of felony offenses. The investigation was led
by Detective Christian and Barnett of the Steamboat Springs Police Department,
and the prosecution of the case was handled by Chief

(15:31):
Deputy District Attorney Joseph Bucci. So I would say that
all you homeless people in Denver that are stabbing and
slitting throats of airline attendants and flight attendants and you know,
creating other having in downtown Denver, go to Steamboat. Go
to Steamboat, because if you go to Steamboat, you'll get

(15:52):
community service. Then she told me the story about and
I don't remember the name of the guy. But the
guy is a long term I mean, like his entire
life living in Steamboat. He's lived there. Everybody in town
knows this guy. Let's just say this. Let's just say
his name is Willie, and so will He's lived in

(16:14):
the Steamboat forever and everybody knows Willy. And Willy has
lots of money, I mean, like millionaire status money. But
Willy doesn't flaunt his money. And Willy doesn't run around,
you know, you know, in flashy cars and do anything.
But will he can't make direct deposits to his stage
Coach Bank account because of some we don't really know

(16:39):
the reason why. There may be some reason, but I
don't know why. But he can't make a direct He
can't make a deposit. I don't mean direct deposit. I
mean he cannot make a He can't walk in with
cash and even under ten thousand dollars and make that
deposit into his account. So he told the stage Coach
Bank that he wants to he's going to move his account,

(17:00):
and he's at the he's at the drive up window
and he's wanting to close out his account, and the
teller makes a joke about Willie. Well, at least you're
not robbing us today? You know, he could be worse,
couldn't it? And will He responds about, yeah, well, I
can't rob you today because I don't have my gun

(17:21):
with me or something, because will you know, usually conceals
carriers whatever. The Route County sheriff knocks on his door
because they made a joke that was initiated by the
teller about robbing the bank. Route County seems to me

(17:41):
that it's kind of been taken over. It's kind of
like a mini Denver. You see Colorado, rural Colorado we
tend to think of, at least I do. I tend
to think mostly of the eastern plains. But in spots
of rural Colorado, the dumbass read that's fully infected. It's

(18:03):
much more dangerous, much more deadly than sarsgo V two
has infected places like Aspen and Tell Your Ride and
now Steamboat Spring. So I think that we ought to
take all of the homeless and the illegal aliens, and
we ought to move them to Steamboat Tell you Ride, Aspen,
and let's clean up Denver. I mean, after all, it'll

(18:26):
save it'll save the mayorson money, and he'll save all
of you that are paying for Denver, because I'll tell
you about that next.

Speaker 4 (18:35):
Hey Mike, why take a buddy. If you do anything
proactive to protect yourself or to protect your body and
the perpetrator dies, you're going to be charged with manslaughter
or even worse, first degree murder.

Speaker 2 (18:49):
That's the Daniel Penny effect. And I've always said that
I don't know if any conceal carry owner, and I
know a lot of concealed carry owners, I don't know
of a one that is actively looking for an opportunity
to use their weapon in defense of themselves or others.

(19:12):
And now that we've seen the whole Daniel Penny escapade, look,
conviction non conviction, it doesn't make any difference. It's I mean,
obviously conviction does make a difference, but the whole process
of the arrest, all of the trial preparation, the trial itself,

(19:34):
and then waiting on a verdict, and even if you
are acquitted of the charges, you still have all of
those expenses, you still have all of that trauma that.

Speaker 3 (19:43):
You've gone through. So unless, of course, your name is
Jordan Williams.

Speaker 2 (19:48):
Yeah, I keep hearing that name. You've got this fattish
about Jordan Williams. I don't understand one.

Speaker 3 (19:54):
Search for it yourself, Jordan Williams, New York subway.

Speaker 2 (19:59):
And he was is I recall black?

Speaker 3 (20:05):
Yes, yes he was? Or is I mean he's right
still a lot?

Speaker 2 (20:09):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (20:10):
Yeah, no, no no charges all charges would drop dropped on.

Speaker 2 (20:16):
And he didn't is are recalled to? He didn't use
his uh arms and fists and legs. He used something
called yeah, canniffy, coniffy, Yeah, caniffy use the conniffer.

Speaker 3 (20:31):
Right, which he wasn't allowed to have, right, right.

Speaker 2 (20:35):
I don't even have a concealed Coniffee permit, so you
know I got concealed permits for everything except for Coniffee.

Speaker 3 (20:42):
Well, no, that happened a month apart from the penny thing.

Speaker 2 (20:50):
To you know, there are certain things that get inside
Dragon's head that will never escape. True that it will
it will never leave the day that Dragon dies. If
they had some way to just put you know, some
sort of like X ray machine, that will be the

(21:12):
only point that we'll see that that his fettish about this,
which is don't get me wrong, I'm not I don't
mean fetish in a bad way. That will kind of.

Speaker 3 (21:23):
Float off into the ether and I am.

Speaker 2 (21:25):
Not dragon will finally be free of that contradiction.

Speaker 3 (21:28):
I am not condemning Jordan Williams's actions. No, no, not
at all actions.

Speaker 2 (21:35):
No, but no, I think you're condemning.

Speaker 3 (21:38):
Then have you ever heard the word hypocrisy, inconsistent, inconsistency
of Do any.

Speaker 2 (21:47):
Of those words me anything to you?

Speaker 3 (21:48):
A young man treated very differently than Daniel Penny, and
the difference was nothing that I could not see.

Speaker 2 (21:57):
Right, both were men in.

Speaker 3 (22:00):
Their youths, you know, eighteen to twenty something range who protected.

Speaker 2 (22:06):
But if you were a liberal, you might notice that, oh,
one was black and one was white. The black was
not prosecuted in.

Speaker 3 (22:16):
The white was Michael Justice is blind?

Speaker 2 (22:20):
Yes, yes, but not color blind. Continuing on in our
little tirade about Colorado right now, you know, Corey Games
does a Colorado accountability project. So I get these updates
from him in the email all the time, and I

(22:40):
read through it, and every once in a while there's
one that just really slaps me. And this one slapped me,
and it's headlined a tale of two bills our state,
meaning you paying about twenty four and a half million
dollars to Denver for homelessness. So whenever we speak about
homelessness Denver, and you live, say in Greenwood Village, or

(23:04):
you live in you know, Fort Collins, or you live
in Yuma, or you live in Montrose, you think, well,
thank goodness, I'm not having a deal with that. Well,
you would be wrong. So Corey files a Colorado Open
Records Act request that came back recently. He says that

(23:28):
a reader had asked how much money Denver has spent
on homelessness. He says, I'm not even going to pretend
that I can find or relate a full accounting to you.
Not only are there different streams of money, but how
you do the counting matters. In other words, here's a
guy who is really in tune with Colorado appropriations, the

(23:51):
Colorado legislature, all the different city councils, how they all interrelate,
how they spend money, how they do everything. And he's
admitting that not only are there different streams of money,
but how you do the counting money, how you do
the counting of the money matters. So I'm not really
sure that I can tell you. And he cites the
number that I have cited numerous times, the one hundred

(24:11):
and fifty five million dollars is spent by Denver, and
he says, okay, personal experience making repeated requests to Denver
officials for information on the topic have gone unanswered, So
let's just go with that number, he says. So let's
just go with one hundred and fifty five million dollars.
But then he says this, and I'll just answer this
for Corey. He says, let's just go with that number. Though,

(24:35):
I wonder whether the lack of responsiveness is more a
function of me being small fry or Denver's reticence to
give a number and thus casting some down on the
one hundred and fifty five million dollar figure. Now, which
do you think it is? Because if you take the
Colorado Open Records Act at face value, because after all,

(24:59):
it is the law, and we're supposed to treat everyone
equally under the law, it doesn't make any difference whether
Corey Games makes a core request, or Michael Brown makes
a request, or iHeartMedia makes a request, or the Denver
Post of the Denver Gazette or anybody else makes a request.

(25:23):
So I'm going to fall on the side that I
just think that it's a reticence to give a number
because that might cast doubt on the number that's now
widely spread around Colorado that Denver spent about one hundred
and fifty five million dollars of homelessness. So then he says,
I also sent a corper request to the State of

(25:43):
Colorado's Department of Local Affairs, which returned three different disbursements
from state coffers to the city and county at Denver
last year. In total, they were twenty four million, five
hundred and sixteen thousand, three hundred and fifty one dollars

(26:07):
that state money that was sent to Denver. But, as
he says in a Paul Harvey voice, maybe there's more
to the story, and here's the rest of the story.
So he has to it. He has. He has several
examples here. Let's go to the first one. The first
one he's got Colorado Department of Local Affairs, located at

(26:31):
thirteen thirteen Sherman Street, Room three twenty. Then for Colorado,
the case name is called the Navigation Campus. It's under
the Housing and Housing Development Preservation Program. The grantee is
set up for electronic transfer of funds and a fantastic

(26:52):
so just boom. Both of these payouts were in response
to twenty twenty two laws, which he explains further below,
which I'll get to in just a minute. One of
the bills, House Bill twenty two thirteen seventy eight specifically
references what you see or what I just described in

(27:14):
those screenshots navigation campuses. Now, the Lion's share of the
twenty four and a half million dollars that Denver spent
went to Denver's navigation campus. You know what a navigation
campus is. That's where if you're going to be a mariner,
like you're going to be, you want to go into

(27:34):
the navy. You want to be a submariner. You want
to be maybe a surveyor. You want to be able
to read a map. You want to be able to
get you know, you want to be able to avoid
downtown Denver as you're traveling, you know, around the Front Range.
So there are campuses where you can go to learn
how to navigate. And they call those navigation campuses. Yeah

(27:57):
that's what they are. Yeah you think that's what they are.
If you think that's what they are, you really are,
You really are some kind of dummy. Then there was
a see, there was a second disbursement. Let me find
this one. The expensure was for a Regional Navigation Campus CF.

(28:19):
Well whatever CF means, I don't know what it means,
but that amounted to in let's see, that was a
fifty million dollar appropriation twenty three twenty twenty four fiscal year.
It was seventy four seventy or this in thousands or millions.

(28:40):
I think it's in thousands, So seventy four thousand, thirty
eight thousand, so about one hundred thousand dollars out of
a fifty million dollar appropriation. And then there's another table
with more expenditures for affordable housing and ownership, local Investment
and Affordable Housing Fund, and Infrastructure and Strong Communities Program,
all of which amount to respectively, one hundred and seventy

(29:01):
eight million, one hundred and thirty eight million, forty million dollars.
You know, you still have been think about these numbers
for things like affordable housing and home ownership, local investment
in affordable housing. This is all these are all state appropriations,
This is all state money being spent on these things.
Why are we spending state moneys? I mean a serious question.

(29:26):
Is it the role of federal, state or local government
to build affordable housing? I don't think that it is.
And I guess maybe that's the libertarian part of me,
but I don't think that's an inherently governmental function that
we've talked about this week an inherently governmental function. So

(29:50):
then there's also a disbursement to the Denver host Encampment
Resolution e S. Twenty three one twenty nine h. When
you read about Carrel's budget problems, it's these bills. This
is money that's going for. Now, what's a navigation campus. Well,

(30:11):
a navigation campus is money that goes to a that
goes to the city in County of Denver, which then
spends money by hiring a NGO, and the NGO then
helps homeless people navigate the bureaucracy so that they're paid
to navigate them the bureaucracy so that homeless people can

(30:32):
get the money and the services and the things that
they need. So we pay people to navigate the bureaucracy.
If you're homeless, Now, if you have a bureaucratic morass
that you're trying to get through a building permit or
any sort of problem you have, well sucks to be

(30:53):
you because you're on your own. Jagged that bomber music
was highly an appropriate yet I wasn't paying attention. What'd
you do?

Speaker 3 (31:04):
Uh, Brian Adams? Yeah, cuts like a knife. I'm not
sure I quite understand.

Speaker 2 (31:13):
I don't either. I don't either.

Speaker 3 (31:14):
Random Bumper music.

Speaker 2 (31:15):
Random Bumper Music. And we were talking about a knifing
on the New York City subway, so.

Speaker 3 (31:21):
Or the sixteenth Street Madel.

Speaker 2 (31:24):
Well, maybe that's could have been, but I don't know
there was any correlation between the two. In addition to
the to the dumb assery about it's not one hundred
and fifty five million dollars, And I want you to
be aware that it's not just City and County of
Denver taxes they're going to pay for homelessness. You're paying

(31:45):
for it too, regardless of where you live. If you
pay Colorado income tax for that matter, almost any tax,
you're paying for it also. And so it's much more
than one hundred and fifty five million dollars because I'm
sure they'd don't want to count money they're getting from
the state. But in addition to doing everything they can
for the homelessness, listen to this headline again from the

(32:09):
Denver Compost. See I have to rely on these from
the Denver Compost because I refuse to subscribe to it,
so I let Dragon bring me these stories. Denver City
Council approves expansion of needle exchange law, allowing more sites.
And the subhead is I love this. Only three needle
exchanges exist now, but if the mayor signs the policy,

(32:33):
an unlimited number would be allowed. Why that's fantastic because
that means not only will you be stepping around you know,
first of all, you got to have a buddy system
to go to downtown Denver or anywhere in Denver, according
to the police chief. And now you will not only
be stepping over homeless people and drug addicts and meth

(32:53):
heads and everybody else, you also have to be worried
about the crazies that are going to be trying to
stab you. So you got to watch out for the homeless,
You got to watch out for the criminals. And then
of course there are all the illegal aliens. And then
be careful when you turn the corner because you might
just stumble into a needle exchange because there will be
a limitless number of them. In explaining in explaining his

(33:19):
yes vote, Councilman Paul Cashman said that the existing distancing
requirements don't help in needed addiction recovery efforts. So I'm
going to assume that what he means is that a
needle exchange program is part of Denver's addiction recovery efforts.

(33:39):
Think about that. So you're injecting math fentanyl, however, what
your drug choice is, you're using needles and syringes to
inject the drug into your body. And Denver and Denver
taxpayers are now going to have a limitless number of
places where you can go to get your needles exchange. Now,

(34:03):
I've always found these needle exchanges fascinating. And here's why.
Do you think the person who is willingly laying in
the gutter, you know, or they got their fire burning,
it hasn't quite burned down the city block yet, is
sitting there injecting the needle. And before they you know,
how like you know, I'll do my testosterone injections, and

(34:24):
you know, I opened the little packet and you know,
and then I you know, take the thing off the
vial and insert it and pull it out. And that's
the I use one needle to pull the stuff into
the syringe, and then I put that needle into the
little red box and then I put another sterile needle
on to inject it into into my leg, and I

(34:46):
don't worry about the sterilization, because well, I know it's
sterile because it's it's in a little package. Who do
you think the people out on the street that are
already high on meth or coke or ventnel or anything else.
Do you think worried about whether or not their needles
are sterile and they're thinking, oops, I can't inject this yet,
I need to go around the block and find a

(35:06):
needle exchange. I don't think they think about the
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