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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, can you guys, Michael and Dragon, can you guys
announce who we can contact about the lame, lame lame
traffic reports on iHeartRadio because they are so wrong, so wrong,
and I am pissed off because I'm sitting in freaking
traffic that wasn't supposed to be there. That whoever dumb
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bach is who.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Reports, well, uh, Susan can kick either of our asses easily.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
So yes, However, having said that, I have on numerous
occasions asked for I don't know how far I can
go with this. Dragon, do you know how there's this
statement somewhere it's a requirement that we play once in
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a while that portions of the following program may be
pre recorded. Let's just say that portions of the following
program may be pre recorded.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
And if.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Something is pre recorded and that is and then is
not updated frequently or is not done, say just before
it's you know, put into what we call a cart,
so that at let's say at six fifty nine am,
a new recorded something is loaded into a cart, then
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it might be out of date.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
It could be five minutes, could be half an hour.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
And sometimes we found that it has updated at all,
could be last week.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
It could be last week, or it could be last week.
So yes, there are there are many things that when
you're the stepchild, you just get the hand me down.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
And I try. All you need to know is this, I.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Bang my head on the wall more than you can
possibly imagine about our circumstances.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
That's why you look the way you look.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Yeah, many people think it's just because Tambera beats me
to death every single day. Well that's only half the story.
And the other half of the story is it's just
me banging my head against that stupid door over there
because I.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
Just can't get things changed or done. You got light bulbs,
don't even start with me on that. Yeah, I got
light bulbs.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
I I take what I know.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
What I do is not.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Like physical labor, I know, but I but I take
pride in what I do and I wanted to do.
I want it to be good, and I want everything
about everything that occurs when I'm not talking to be
good too. And it's just it's so damn frustrating sometimes
because it just doesn't It just doesn't happen. It just
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doesn't happen. And there are ways to I'm not sure
how you do it. But I think on the website
Michael says go here dot com, isn't there a way
to contact I'm looking at you, traffic, No a way
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to contact year, Because occasionally I get emails from one
of the two of them that says, can you respond
to this email? Like somebody might they find a contact
form somewhere on the website, and it goes somehow ends
up on one of the manager's desk. And I don't
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see most of them because most of them are about
well whatever. But oftentimes it'll be like, oh, what's the
name of that or what's the phone number of that
sponsor that does bathroom remodels, and so they'll ask me
to respond to that. All the others I don't see.
All I know is that those emails end up on
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one of those two desks.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Yes, when you go to Michael says go here dot com,
at the near the bottom of the page, there's a
little button that says contact you scroll down to the bottom.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
Of that page.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Then there's a little email US section. Okay, and I
believe that goes to them over there.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
Yeah, So I would, I would. I would strongly encourage
anytime there's something like this that you don't like or
is wrong or is substandard, because I think the best
word for it is its substandard, then use that. Use
it often be you know, just like I would advise
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you when you write a member of Congress, be succinct,
professional to the point, yet adamant about your concerns, and
maybe like you right now, stuck somewhere, give a real
world example.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
Give a real world example.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
I want to go back to the Hegsith hearing, and
I'm you know, unless you're living under rock, I know
you've heard this, but nonetheless there's something about it that
maybe you haven't quite thought about. He continued his commentary. Thus,
this is Mark Wayne Mullen, the I think junior senator
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from Oklahoma. I don't really know anything about him. What
I do know is that a lot of people that
follow me on X don't trust this guy. He's a Republican.
That's pretty much all I know about him. He's a
member I think of either the Cherokee or the Chickasaw tribe,
something like that.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
I really just don't know.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
I just know a lot of people don't trust him.
Speaker 5 (06:04):
If you have served in the US Army Forces, and
I've been in the service, for UH, you have to
be retired for at least seven years and Congress can
can weigh that. And then there's questions that the that
the senator from UH from Massachusetts brought up about serving
on a on a board inside the military industry, and
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yet your own secretaries you all voted for Secretary of Austin.
We had to vote on a waiver because he stepped
out the border raytheon. But I guess that's okay because
that's a Democrat secretary of Defense. But you so quickly
forget about that. And then Senator Kane or I guess
I better use the senator from Virginia starts bringing up
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the fact that what if you showed up drunk to
your job? How many senators have showed up drunk to
vote at night? Have any of you guys asked them
to step down and resign for their job? And don't
tell me you haven't seen it, because I know you have.
And then how many senators do you know have got
a divorce before cheating on their wives? Did you ask
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them to step down? No? But it's for show, you guys.
Make sure you make a big show and point out
to hypocrisy because a man's made a mistake, and you
want to sit there and say that he's not qualified.
Speaker 4 (07:28):
Give me a joke.
Speaker 5 (07:29):
It is so ridiculous that you guys hold yourself as
this higher standard and you forget you got a big
plank in your eye.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
We've all made mistakes.
Speaker 5 (07:37):
I've made mistakes, and Jennifer, thank you for loving him
through that mistake. Because the only reason why I'm here
and not in prison is because my wife loved me too.
I have changed.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
It really goes to the heart that and this is
true just not for confirmation hearing. This is true for
almost any kind of hearing. I've sat there on that
witness table being asked questions that you know, the lawyer
brain in me is kicking in, and I'm thinking about
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the premise of the question, and I'm thinking, you know,
you really are some kind of stupid. You truly are
some kind of stupid. Now, Pete Hegseeth can't say that,
And I would never have said that, but I certainly
thought it. And then there were times, particularly post Katrina,
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in many of the Katrina hearings, in which.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
They would ask me questions.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
Or I remember one person in particular, Coleman I forget
the he was from Minnesota, but he came in during
while the hearing is going on, said he had to
vote on something and he couldn't really stay. He said
this to either Susan Collins or Joe Lieberman and then
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proceeded to just drag me over the coals about how
stupid and competent and how I was. I had no
leadership skills, no skills whatsoever. Just berated me. And then
it wasn't even a question, it was just a statement.
And then he swung around and told Lieberman and Collins
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that he needed to go vote and started to leave
the hearing room. And since I was no longer a
part of the administration, I was free, free at last
to say what I damn well please, And I said, Senator,
turn around, sit down and listen to what I have
to say, because if you're going to attack me, then
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I have the right to defend myself. And I'm going
to defend myself against these scurless attacks as you've made
on my character. And the room you could have heard
a pendra, primarily because nobody ever does that, nobody ever
calls these people out. Now. I believe they're due respect,
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their due respect because they have they've put they've thrown
their hat in the ring, and they've gotten, you know,
fifty percent plus one or more to vote for them.
So they've become indicate in my case, they were US
senators like they are here, but they're just American citizens,
and we have somehow lost track of the fact that
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we the people have hired them through our vote to
go represent us. And so they're no better than the
woman that just left the talk back that's pissed off
about the lousy traffic reports because she's somewhere and the
traffic report is one hundred and eighty degrees different from
what the traffic really is. And I have no qualms
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whatsoever with her leaving a talkback like that. I have
no qualms whatsoever about what I did to that senator.
I have no qualms whatsoever about saying to a governor
hick and Looper and I have had knock down dragouts
before I had I can't. I can no longer do
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it legitimately. But I used to refer to Michael Bennett
as the accidental Senator. Here's a guy can who completely
efft up the Denver school system as if I mean
and that's actually a major accomplishment because of the Denver
public schools are pretty apt up to begin with, but
he was able to take it to the next level
of aft up. And so what did Governor Ritter do, Well, Oh,
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we got to take care of him. So he resigns
as superintendent and boy, let's let's let's appoint him to
a vacant Senate post. Michael Bennett really failing upwards really
fascinates me. So at the same time that I believe
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that we ought to show the office respect, and I
think just on a human level, we ought to show
these individuals respect.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
That's not what was going on in these hearings at
all yesterday. It was.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
An attempted assassination, character assassination. Now they missed, They totally
missed because they took on someone who freely admits and
owns up to his mistakes, is publicly and has publicly
been willing to say so, has from whatever you know,
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Here's a guy who quite honestly probably had serious PTSD
problems and has overcome those and has risen in a
separate career, which nothing wrong with that whatsoever. Remember, the
attack at one point was going to be well he's
just a morning TV host. Really well, if he's seen Battle,
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if he has seen how.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
Yeah, it's It's like.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
I had a conversation with one of my bosses the
other day and we were talking about some corporate finance stuff.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
I don't know how we got off of that, and.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
I made the comment, but you know, it really drives
me crazy because having managed a you know, thirty billion
dollar budget and you know, thirty thousand plus employees or more,
or actually as one of five that managed one hundred
and eighty four thousand, initially one hundred eighty four thousand employees,
So I look at kind of sudden things that different
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corporations do and I think to myself, what the hell
are you thinking?
Speaker 4 (13:44):
What are you doing?
Speaker 3 (13:46):
And if human capital is so important, you ought to
be taking care of human capital first, because without that
human capital, whether you produce radio programs or you make widgets.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
Or you're a the sec deaf.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
Or whatever you are, without human capital, you cannot do
what you do.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
Now.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
Some might argue parenthetically that well, we're moving away from
that and we're gonna have robots to do everything, but
even then you're gonna have to have a company that
manufactures the robots, and that's gonna take human capital to
do so. I think what's happening in this country is
a recognition that they really do put their pants on
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just like we do. They really do go to the
bathroom just like we do. They really do. And this
is the culture of d C. The culture of d
C is that they are and I'm telling you from
personal experience, it's it's an opiate. It is it's ketamine,
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it's fetanyl, it's heroin, it's it's whatever, and if you're
not careful, it will kill you, destroy your soul, truly
destroy your soul. I was able to escape it, but
I got to tell you, while I was on it,
it was amazing. It was truly amazing, the power, the perks,
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the deference, everything that you get. I was a misfit.
I was truly a misfit. I got to levels that
I had always aspired to get to. Yet I was
a misfit. And I was a misfit because I really
did believe that we have a country where citizens go
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to serve their country, and you serve your country in
whatever capacity that the president of the country might ask
you to serve in, and you do your best, and
you do what you think is right. And no matter
what you do that you think is right, there are critics.
Theodore Roosevelt was absolutely correct about the man in the
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man in the arena. That that's who counts. And that's
why I have respect for even the Democrats who run
for office, because they are the man or the woman
in the arena. They're engaged in the battle. Now, I
think the way they fight the battle is nasty and
dirty and awful. And I think sometimes that they get
into the arenas by simply I don't know, by their
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own charisma, but by if it's by it, if it
was by an IQ test, they wouldn't be They wouldn't
be a dog sitter for me. Yeah, you're asking some
Pete Heggser. Well, I know he thinks he knows what
he's walking into. He truly does, because until you are there,
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until you realize the enormous responsibility that you're taking on,
and I know in some respects he does.
Speaker 4 (16:52):
But still, when you walk in and you sit down.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
At that desk and suddenly all of this stuff comes
flying at you, it's only it's only then that you
realize that holy piece is Batman.
Speaker 4 (17:07):
This is serious stuff, Mike.
Speaker 6 (17:09):
Women have proven themselves to be effective as a fighter
pilots in combat and as apache helicopter pilots in the army.
So in the roles where they're flying attack aircraft, they
can absolutely do the job.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
Yeah, all right, So go back for a moment to
the Mark Wayne Mullen questioning about how many of you
in here have seen somebody show up drunk to cast
a vote, how many of you have gotten a divorce
because of infidelity or something That, in a nutshell represents
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the hearing, and I think it represents American politics because
Mark Wayne Mullen is absolutely correct, But his defense of
peat Hagesath isn't necessarily a vindication of the nominee either,
if you're on the other side. That is to say,
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I think that both sides have a point, but neither
has an answer. So while Tim Kane and Christian Jillibrand
and Mark Kelly and all these other Democrats can be
all be sanctimonious about character and qualifications, that's just a
fake concern. And it appears to I think most Americans
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like a defense of a broken system. I have since
these fires broke out in California, and yes, I do
believe these are two topics that are tied together. I've
been talking about, you know, the collapse of compact complex societies,
and I think what we're going through is that Donald Trump,
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and I think most Americans realize that our institutions are
either broken or they're breaking, they're ineffective, they're they're overlords,
and that they're suddenly, sometimes outright blatantly taking away our freedoms.
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So we have a broken system. So Republicans that shout
about you know, drunk senators or for that matter, of
military military drag shows or women on the battlefield, they're
probably right on those counts, and I think most Americans
probably know it. But on the other side, the efforts
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by the Democrats to take Pete Hagsith as an outsider
and paint him as an outsider, I think that's what
people voted for. That's the base, and that's what Republicans
want now, Probably not all Republicans, because I would venture
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to say that while there are probably, as I said
at the very beginning of this program, Republicans have coalesced
around this nomination because they're coalescing around Trump because they
feel they literally feel the undertow that is going on
and this shift in American politics, and it is the
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system is broken. We need change agents, we need disruptors,
and so therefore that's what we want to because just
like a surfer, they want to ride that wave because
if they ride the wave, they can stay in power.
Democrats are they don't understand the wave. They don't get
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it yet. And I think this hearing yesterday showed that,
and that's the trap that we're now in because I
believe wholeheartedly that the system is in need of disruption.
But I think it was this week. I think it
was Monday. That Dragon, just at the beginning of the program.
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I think maybe even before I even said a word,
made some comment about okay, now you wanted this, but
it's not all going to happen on day one.
Speaker 4 (21:21):
Do you remember saying that dragon? Yeah, pretty close to that. Yeah.
You don't know just.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
How insightful that was, because this really is where we are.
And I think all of those who voted for Trump
are looking for that change agent, and they're looking for
that disruption. And like I say, not every disruptor is
going to work, Not every disrupt is going to be qualified.
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And then you're going to have the ugliness of disruption.
The problem for the Democrats is that I think the
majority of Americans are so desperate for change that people
are willing to err on the side of the disruptor
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more than they are the status quo. Well, that's not
to say that Pete Haiggs's is not qualified and that
he won't or that he can't do a good job.
I think that he can, and in fact, I think
he is the kind of disruptor that is necessary to
disrupt things. But you know the way DC works. Let
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me give you a completely unrelated example of how DC works.
So you know that Joe Biden blocked the sale of
US Steel to Nippon Steel, the Japanese company. Well, now
there's an American company that has a bid for a
US steel that is less than the bid for that
Nippon Steel has made for US steel.
Speaker 4 (22:59):
And it may or may not get done.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
That sale US Steel, meanwhile, is foundering, while there are
at least now two bidders trying to get it.
Speaker 4 (23:15):
And I can't and I haven't and I don't really
want to.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
Take the time to judge which of the two bids
is good or bad, best or better, worse or worse.
I don't know, and I'm not fully convinced that the
sale of US steel to nip On steal is a
national security problem. Obviously Trump and his team probably think
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that it is, and others think that it is not.
I'm kind of ambivalent about it because I haven't studied
it that closely. But here's what I do know is
that the way DC works is that now that Biden's
made the decision that he's going to block the sale
to nip On and another bidder has shown up, there
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is a tsunami, an absolute tsunami of money from lobbyists
flowing into d C right now. Why because now that
decision to block or not block is really kind of influx.
Is it a national security concern? Is it not a
national security concern? Is this is the Nipon steel bid
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the best bid?
Speaker 4 (24:24):
Or is this alternate bid the best bid?
Speaker 3 (24:27):
And now now the consultants and the lobbyists and the
lawyers are all just I mean, the money is pouring in,
and by pouring in, I mean the K Street consultants
and lobbyists and the lawyers. They're all making a boatload
of money right now, and campaign contributions are starting to
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flow to decision makers, to the DNC, to the RNC
and the two members of the House and to the Senate.
So it's that kind of of eCos system that has
now been is coming alive because of one company. Now
I'm not trying to be little US Steel, but just
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one company out of all the companies in the country
has caused this disruption. And now we're going to be
forced to or we won't be because they'll make that decision.
Speaker 4 (25:24):
We won't. We can influence it, of course, but we
won't make the decision.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
So take that idea and now think about what's happening
in terms of the military industrial complex. You don't think
that Lockheed Martin and Raytheon and North Grumman and all
the consulting firms, Boozel and everybody else that they're not
all in panic mode. So now they're busy doing the
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same thing that these two bidders for US Steel are doing.
They're now lobbying everything. So while you and I as
the owners of the country, have said that we want
a disruptor, we want things to change, We.
Speaker 4 (26:07):
Want the institutions to change.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
We want them to get lean, mean focused and quit
doing things with DEI and all this other crap. Well,
that's why Republicans aren't going to waver on Hegesas, that's
why they've coalesced around him. But behind closed doors, I
bet Joni Ernst still has doubts about Pete Hegsath, whether
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it's his pledged up in the Pentagon bureaucracy, his treatment
of women, his lack of large scale management experience, whatever
it is. But the problem is not the problem, but
the reality is that Trump has forced Republicans to reckon
with institutional distrust. So the Republican Party is at least
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more willing to publicly back the attacks and the changes
that we won in these institutions. But while Republicans are
doing that to the rest of the DC establishment, not
just the elected elites and all the others, that sounds
like backcrap craziness. To you and me, it sounds like
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common sense. This hearing doesn't bode well for the Democrats
because it's unlikely that most Americans will base any future
votes on what occurred yesterday. But if the Republican strategy,
or if the Democrats strategy of the hearing reflects their
blueprint for this second election of Trump, then the Democrats
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are in serious do do and that's fine with me,
Don't get me wrong, That's absolutely fine with me. It's
not easy to question disruptions without at the same time
defending a broken system. It may be possible, but I
don't think Democrats have the ability to do so. And
that's you know what they did yesterday. So now we've
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got Cash Battel, We've got Tulsea Gabbert, we got Bobby Kennedy,
Junior Russ Vott, we got all of these new nominees,
all disruptors, all wanting to come in and change things,
and the Democrats are left just kind of bumming around
a bunch of idiots. Well, you drink too much, you
cheated on your wife, you got too many girlfriends, you
don't know how to do an audit.
Speaker 4 (28:23):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
Now the next big question is are we willing and
are we capable of going through all the disruption?
Speaker 7 (28:34):
Hey, Michael James Carvill kind of nailed it when he
said there are way too many preachy female Democrats. And
I would add screechy female Democrats who there or at
least four of them, who viciously attacked Pete Hesith yesterday,
And I would say the emptiest spots cars make the
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most noise. Hey, you and Dragon have a great day.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
I will too that analogy, the emptiest box cars make
the most noise. That's true, that's really true. Banging around yesterday.
I didn't see it live, but in doing show prep
in the clipping service is Jesse Waters on What show
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was this on?
Speaker 4 (29:25):
I don't know, No, it was. It was The Five.
It wasn't his show. It's the Five in which he
said this, if you met with Democrats, they would all
love you.
Speaker 8 (29:35):
It's called the charm offensive.
Speaker 4 (29:36):
Yeah, and I would be laying.
Speaker 8 (29:37):
It on sick. He was probably trying to shore up
the votes on the Republican side. Maybe didn't have time
for the Democrats. And to answer Greg's question, no, Greg,
you are not confirmable at all.
Speaker 4 (29:54):
Trump could not have had a.
Speaker 8 (29:55):
Better leadoff hitter for these cabinet confirmations. And this guy
had a walk off home run, and he was eloquent,
he was passionate, and the youth factor was huge because
if you see that guy that's spirited framed up against
these disheveled old guys that really are just looks like
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they needed a cup of coffee just to even walk
in there that late in the morning. This is what
this generation is there for, to take the reins of
this old generation who's really run.
Speaker 4 (30:28):
This Pentagon into the ground.
Speaker 8 (30:29):
They can't pass them on it twenty years in Afghanistan.
The Army can't recruit, the Navy can't build ships. The
Democrats were stuck defending the.
Speaker 4 (30:38):
Status quo today.
Speaker 8 (30:40):
And you need a guy who's not status quo, who's
outside the box, to come in and change things. Because
they voted to confirm all of the guys at the
Pentagon who are obviously not qualified for the job, and
then they're getting lectured on character by guys that lied
about serving in Vietnam to get elected or lied about
their race to get a job.
Speaker 4 (31:00):
Give me a break, Pete never.
Speaker 8 (31:03):
Drank on the job. There's no evidence of that. Congress
just opened up their own canteena They have now pages
delivering beer, liquor, and wine to the offices of the politicians.
Pete settled a lawsuit falsely accusing him of sexual harassment.
Congress has a secret slush fund to settle sexual harassment
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allegations against them, and you're not even allowed to look
at it. And they're saying that Pete is injecting politics.
Democrats injected politics of the Pentagon. They're the ones that
introduced grace and gender. They're the ones that that drag
Queen's story hour at military basis. Pete's trying to bring
it out of there. Thregmitted analogy. I like to see
your analogy and raise you one. Pete is like hydrogen peroxide.
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The Democrats have shot themselves in the foot. The Pentagon
is an open wound. You need someone like Pete to
treat the wound. Stings a little bit, sounds a little
sometimes out out, but you know what, it's cleansing, and
it's their fault. You need someone like Pete to bring
it home.
Speaker 4 (32:08):
I think that is brilliant. But you and I have
a role in this.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
Too, because when Pete pours the hydrogen peroxide, the H
two O two into the.
Speaker 4 (32:23):
Wound, it is going to steam. And who's gonna scream?
Speaker 3 (32:28):
As the talk back says, all those empty box cars,
all the empty box cars are going to scream. And
then who's going to amplify that screaming box car? The
cabal is going to and then you and I are
going to start at some point, we're all we're all
going to do it. Don't deny it. We're all going
to do it. We're gonna go, oh gee, maybe we
didn't maybe we bit off more than we can chew,
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or maybe maybe he wasn't quite the right guy, or ooh,
I don't like that. Don't lose sight of the larger picture,
and that is we wanted disruptor, We got a disruptor.
Our institutions do need to change. Never forget that, these
institutions do need cleansing. Remember the failure of complex societies.
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We're on the verge of that failure, if not in
that failure right now, and we're trying.
Speaker 4 (33:22):
To fix it. It's not going to be.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
Pretty at all. It's going to be really ugly. You
what a fascinating time to be alive, right, Keep that attitude.