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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Good night.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Michael Brown joins me here, the former FEMA director of talk.
Speaker 3 (00:03):
Show host Michael Brown. Brownie, no, Brownie, You're doing a
heck of a job.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
The Weekend with Michael Brown.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Hey broadcasting life from Denver, Colorado. Weather broadcasting live from Denver, Colorado,
where the weather is colder that a well digger's ass.
Now you try to say that we're now forty six
hours away from senile old Joe Biden exiting stage left
and Donald Trump entering stage right. You know the rules.
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me on X at Michael Brown USA. I wouldn't you
hear Congressman Clyburn, because there are several things all happening
simultaneously right now. The New York Times is out starting
to report on just how bad the Biden's health condition
has been not just for the past few months, but
for the past four or more years. At the same
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time that friends like James Clyburn are desperately trying to
rehabilitate Joe Biden and make him out something into something
that he's not. He's really you know, I I know
old people. I don't mean old disrespectfully. I just mean
(01:42):
you're older in age. My mom's ninety four years old
and she is beginning to decline. I know people who
are in their nineties who are who have yet to
start to decline, but my mom's kind of starting to
do it. And I know people who are in their
eighties that you would think they're fifty years old. Joe
Biden is in horrible health, physical and mental. If you
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if you watch him speak, he really has a difficult
time getting the words out, and then you listen to
some of the things he said. We started the program
now with the speech that he gave yesterday about how
he hereby affirms that the equal rights of himent is
now the law of the land. Well that's bull crap.
So you've got what we see what some of those
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who have been trying to cover up with him for
the past several years are now starting to come out
and admit. And then you have those who are what
I would call the revisionists. They're going to try to
revise the history. They're going to try to make sure
that they plant a flag that no Joe Biden had
all his faculties. And James Clyburn, who's a good friend
with Joe Biden, which I find fascinating because I sincerely
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believe that Joe Biden is a racist. I really do
believe that he is. And here's James Clyburn, a civil
rights active as a black congressman, and somehow they're good friends.
I don't get it.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
This is what he is talking about, an opportunity to
society allows everybody, irrespective what zip code you may have
been born in, to have an opportunity to make it
in America. That is what this is all about. And
so I applaud Joe Biden for and I.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Would argue and to make it equally difficult for everybody
to make it in this society by creating extraordinary the
highest inflation in forty years, over regulation by the EPA
and you know the Green New Deal that you know
we're gonna limit how you can you know, drive yourself
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around or move yourself from point A to point B,
the kind of house you can live, and what you're
gonna eat, what you can't eat, I mean the over
regulation imposed by this administration. We don't yet full know
the full depths.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
Of sounding that warning. As much like Eisenhower did when
he left the presidency and saw that we were threatening
to be overcome by the military industrial complex. The country
responded then. I hope we will respond now and make
sure that this country stays the kind of country of
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opportunity for everybody.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
I'm sure you know that there's a new poll that
shows Joe Biden's final approval rating matches the lowest of
his presidency. It's at thirty six percent. And I want
to play what President Biden said last night about how
he feels his accomplishments will be received.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
It will take time to feel the full impact of
all we've done together. But the seeds are planted.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
And they'll grow and they'll blown for decades to come.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Give it everything that was in place when he took office,
COVID the economic challenges. Do you think that this was
in some ways inevitable? And how do you know?
Speaker 2 (05:13):
I can't let that slip by the economic challenges when
he took over. Yes, COVID was and I think Trump
made a huge mistake with COVID, both on Operation warp speed,
with the vaccines which were now finding out are actually
fairly dangerous, and with the lockdowns just shutting down the economy.
But before that occurred, we had one of the We
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had the strongest economy in the world. It was growing
at a rapid GDP was just skyrocketing. We had super
low inflation, low gas prices, low energy prices, we were
the world's largest any energy producer. Everything was humming along,
just great. And then once COVID hit, and then Biden
wins the twenty twenty election, he just exacerbates everything and
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just turns it popsy turvy.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
You think history will judge this presidency.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
I think that he will go down as one of
the greatest presidents we ever had.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
You can I know, you just spewed your coffee. You
just spit out your dight coke. Clean it up, don't leave.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
It to dry. I think the same thing about Jimmy Carter,
who we just funeralized.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
We funeralized, We funeralized Jimmy Carter so when you die,
we're going to funeralize you.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Jim Carlo left the presidency the very very low ratings.
Harry Truman, the same thing. People who do big things,
people who break with the status quote these the I.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Mean, did Biden break with the status quot? No, he
took whatever it was the progressive Marxist wing of the
Democrat Party wanted to do, and he totally he didn't
keep Did he keep anything in the status quo in place? No,
he fell in line totally with the progressive Marxist wing
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of the Democrat Party and that got us to where
we are today. So it's really no surprise that Clyburn
really does gaslight us that Biden wasn't awful. Biden is
more responsible, or Clyburn is more responsible than anybody for
Biden's presence in the White House. Remember, he was losing.
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You go back to twenty twenty, he was losing all
of the primaries and the South Carolina primary where James
Clyburn finally stood up and said I want Joe Biden
to win. That's what launched Joe Biden's presidency. Barack Obama
didn't want him back in twenty sixteen and Apparently the
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American voters didn't want him in twenty twenty. I should
say the Democrat voters didn't want him in twenty twenty
until James Clyburn stepped in. Unbelievable. They had to find
somebody to replace Bernie Sanders, the socialist, and what did
they give us? They gave us a Democrat that was
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So I told you about how I think things are
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already beginning to change, even though we're not quite we're
still you know, but forty six hours away from Trump
taking office, Well, the International Monetary Fund, the IMF revises
forecast for our economy. They're now anticipating faster growth in
twenty twenty five than they had originally estimated. The World
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Economic Outlook Report, which is where they put out all
their data, the IMF is predicting a growth rate of
two point seven percent for the United States. Now that's
an increase from an earlier estimate a two point five percent,
and they attribute that to a robe US labor market,
the dynamics in the labor market, and an increase in
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investment activities following Trump's twenty twenty four victory. When I
read that, the thing that struck me the most was
not just the labor. I mean, that's great, but the
increase in investment activities, that means that both the capital,
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whether that's capital from foreign institutions, foreign investors, or the
sovereign funds of foreign countries, or even you know, just
individual investors like you and me in this country, that
we believe in what Trump wants to do, and we
believe that America is going to turn itself around, and
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that capital naturally flows to where it can be best
utilized and get the greatest return on investment. That's one
of the best signals I've seen for the election of
Trump in a long time. In contrast with all the
crap going on in Europe. The IMF lowered decreased its
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growth projections for Europe. Why because they got all of
these political uncertainties. Do you look at the grooming controversy
going on in the United Kingdom right now, that's freaking
unbelievable to me. I really should put that as a
topic to discuss someday. But there's been this institutional is
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probably the best word, this institutional sexual abuse of children
in the United Kingdom, and the current Prime Minister, Keir Starmer,
held a position similar to not exactly equivalent but similar
to the Attorney General and at one time when all
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of this was going on, and this has been going
on since the nineteen seventies, refused to prosecute the cases.
The United Kingdom between that and their censorship every the
United Kingdom is falling up, Europe's falling apart, and a
lot of that's attributable to mass migration, illegal aliens coming
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in from the Middle East and elsewhere, and they're just
allowing it to continue. And of course then you have
challenges in the manufacturing sector. You look at Germany, a
manufacturing behemoth, and Volkswagen laying people off, cutting production. I mean,
Germany is really struggling anyway. The chief economists for the
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IMF highlighted a significant divergence and economic trajectories between where
we appear to be headed and other regions of the world.
He said, the big story is the divergence between the
US and the rest of the world. We have stronger
potential output growth in the United States compared to pre pandemic,
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and we have weaker potential growth in other areas like
the euro Area or China. Ooh, China is in deep doody. Now.
These revised forecasts from the IMF are based on their
October analysis, and I emphasize October because that suggests that
although global growth is not returned to pre pandemic levels,
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fears of a significant post pandemic contraction have largely kind
of dissipated. So this updated report anticipates global output that's
going to grow by about three point three percent this
next year and beyond that. So that's slightly above earlier forecasts.
And in addition to that, the IMF is warning that
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economic policy uncertainty, particularly from other foreign newly elected governments,
could impact the global economic trends, and that we are
countering that. Now. They go on to dubiously claim that
Trump's push for tax cuts, his push for deregulation, his
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push for tariffs, his push for immigration restrictions could potentially
lead to increased inflation. But I seriously doubt that tax
cuts this has been proven. You know, anytime anybody mentions
the laugh or curve, then people automatically assume, oh, no,
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that's been disproven. No, it has not. Anytime that there
have been cuts in taxes, there has been an increase
in revenues to the US Treasury. So why do we
keep ending up with larger and larger budget deficits and
greater and greater national debt because the dumbasses in Congress. See,
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it's like suddenly, Mom and Dad give you an increase.
They double your allowance. Instead of a bucket a dollar
a week, you get two dollars a week. But you
go out and because they stupidly gave you a credit card,
even though you now get two dollars a week, you
spend three dollars a week. And that's what Congress has done.
Every time there's been a tax cut, revenues increase, and
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spending is outpaced the revenue increase. But think about this.
Immigration restrictions and tariffs are generally deflationary because it puts
downward pressure on consumption. And that's been pointed out by
Scott Descent, who is Trump's nominee to be the Secretary
of the Treasurer. And of course, any economy, well I
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shouldn't say any economists, but most rational economists will tell
you that deregulation usually results in lower costs. Lower costs
usually result in lower prices. So if you run small
business making widgets and they deregulate your business partially or holy,
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that means your cost of production goes down, which means
that you could actually lower your prices and smell and
sell even more widgets. And so you can manufacture more
widgets and then increase your volume, increase your market share
at a lower price, and not just maintain your existing
profit margin and your existing prot net profits, but actually
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increase them. Basic economics which I think most members of
Congress simply don't understand, but the IMF does, and the
IMF is seeing, Oh, we think that he's going to
do all of these things. And he now has majorities
in the House and the Senate. So while it may
take a while to get some of these these things done,
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if he's able to accomplish what he wants to accomplish,
then yes, boom, we're off. We're off to the races.
And I think that we are and I think this
is an indication of the Trump effect. We're already seeing
some people getting to self deport We're also seeing like ALCOHOLM,
which is located in San Diego County. They're on the
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verge of retracting their sanctuary status ahead of Trump's inauguration
on Monday. Now, the residence of ALCOHOLM, which is known
for its pretty significant foreign population forced the postponement of
the measure repealing the sanctuary city law earlier this week
during a pretty contentious city council meeting Alcohol Mayor Bill
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Wells I think is his name. This is not about
taking our police force and turning them into border agents.
This is about just cooperating with the federal government and
actually following the law. Wow, what a concept. Let's follow
the law regarding immigration. Hang tight, I'll be right back. Hey,
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X at Michael Brown USA. So here we are. Let's
see it's we're now forty six hours or so from
the inauguration of Donald Trump. Get ready, you know when
when Biden took office on January twentieth of twenty twenty one. Now,
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I think he did it that day, but he did
over course of several days. I think he reversed a
lot of Donald Trump's executive orders which to put us
in a tail spin, particularly regarding immigration. Well, here's what
I think. Susie Wiles, who is Trump's She was part
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of the co chair of the Trump campaigns co managers.
She is a Now I'm gonna use the phrase DC insider,
but I don't use that in any sort of pejoraty
of way. Susie Wylee is a practical, super smart political advisor,
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and I think that she her fingerprints are all over
the Trump campaign. And I think Trump a lot like
my old boss, George W. Bush, has a lot of
respect for strong willed women. It's why Trump, for example,
and Condaleza Rice got along so well. And I think
this is why Trump and Susie Lyles get along so well.
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They respect each other, and I think they know how
to deal with each other, which is really important for
a chief of staff because the chief of staff needs
to bring order and discipline to the West Wing. And
regards what you may think about George W. Bush, there
was order and there was discipline in the West Wing.
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You can disagree, as I do did still do with
a lot of things that George W. Bush did. That
West Wing was run like a well oiled machine. And
I think this time the next four years, we'll see
the same thing as long as Susie Wiles or someone
like her is in charge and is the chief of staff.
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So what's been going on since election day? The transition
team now they have there's there's a transition office in
DC because all of these nominees have to have uh
they have advisors, they have coaches, they have policy wonks,
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They've got all sorts of staff that are helping them
prepare for their confirmation hearings. And there are staffers that
are preparing policy positions and are now are in place
already in the agencies. So for example, there is one,
maybe two or more people already in the Department of Justice,
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already in the Department of Defense, already, the Department of
Home Land Security. And what they're doing is the outgoing
administration is preparing these briefing books. The one that I
got was gigantic and it had obviously had to do
with FEMA, and it was everything that was current policy
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policies that were being looked at, recommended changes, problems they
were dealing with. It was just the whole game. It
was a snapshot of the agency at that moment, and
that's being done throughout the federal government as we speak.
But there's also a transition team down in mar Lago,
down in Florida, and that team is working on in
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conjunction with the team up in d See. They're working
on all of the U for example, executive orders that
are about to be signed, so that when they're they're
being drafted, they're being put in all the formal language
that they need to be in. They're probably being discussed
with the future president himself, and Susie Wiles is also
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looking at how do we string these out because some
are going to be controversial, some are going to be
pretty easy, and some some will be totally ignored. And
by ignored, I don't mean by the agencies of the
departments or by the West Wing, but ignored by the
media because they're just too minute. They're not that earth shattering.
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Others are going to That's all you're going to hear
about next week. Are some of these major executive orders? Well,
She's also smart in timing those Do you do them
all at once, do you spread them out? Do you
do it over a week, do you do over a
couple of weeks. You know, that's all being discussed right now.
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But for us as the observers, those who voted for
him and are looking forward to these changes, is kind
of on your mark. Get set, here we go. So
what's going to happen. Let's walk through. Since I won't
talk to you until next Saturday, unless, of course, you
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listen to me this coming week, I want to kind
of describe what's going on. So Trump's going to be
sworn into office on Monday from inside the Capitol Rotunda,
just like Ronald Reagan was back in nineteen eighty five. Now,
the official reason from moving it inside is because of
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the weather, and I think it's I think there's truth
to that. It was I couldn't think of the name earlier,
but it was William Henry Harrison, who he wanted to avoid.
I think the seventy eight year old president elect may
want to avoid the fate of William Henry Harrison because
he was sworn in on a bitterly cold March. I
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think it was March at that time, and he died
a few months later, got pneumonia and died. Although I
think there's some speculation, I don't think. I know, there's
some speculation that the president's security is the real factor,
and that may be true. But Trump, in the benevolent
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mood that he seems to be in, also doesn't want
the poor, you know, horses to freeze to death in
that big day. It's kind of funny what goes on
in his head. I think he's also probably thinking about people,
all of the you know, the mag of people that
will show up in their hats and everything that will
be there, you know, to appear on the steps of
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the Capitol or actually on the National Mall itself, not
on the step. And I think he's thinking about his fans.
So he'll make an appearance at Capitol one arena before
going onto the White House, so that he can, as
he promised yet seriously last year, be that dictator for
a day. Remember that I'm going to be I'm not
gonna be a dictator. Well maybe for one day. Here's
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how I think he might actually be a dictator for
a day. He will do so by signing perhaps as
many as one hundred executive orders. It would be so
quintessential Donald Trump to have added a few more executive
orders just so he can reach that nice round number.
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And then you can expect the growing legion of Trump
loyals to begin a course in the media. He's done
one morning and one day the most presidents do in
the first one hundred. So we're back to etc. At
infinite and blah blah blah. There'll be all this hubbaloo
over you know, what did he do? They wan'ts the
effect of them and what's going to happen.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
Now.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
Reporters, almost always with any president, it's not new with Trump,
usually talk about this flurry of presidential executive orders. Well,
I think this time it's not going to be a flurry.
It might be like, you know, it's snowing right here
in Colorado right now. It might be like an avalanche
or a commander in chief. It might be a barrage
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of orders. Senator John Brosso has called it a blizzard
and a shakanawe approach. Whatever it is, here's what you
have to remember. There's two things that are going to happen.
He's going to try to undo the Biden agenda as
much as he can to executive orders, and he's going
to try and impose Trump Version two point zero at
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a breakneck speed, and the cabal is going to go
ba listic and it's going to be a wonderful thing
to watch, to listen to, and to see. Now Trump
understands that cheap power fuels financial success, and so he
wants lots and lots of it. He's going to end
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I think he'll end all of Biden's environmental restrictions. He'll
do what he can to block and stop the Green
New Deal, and he'll do whatever he can to begin
to start the beginning at least of much more drilling
and frighting projects across America. Now we need to understand
that that's not going to happen overnight. He may, you know,
eliminate some of the regulations. He may you know, reverse
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some of the bands on drilling, but that doesn't mean
you're going to see oil wells starting to pop up everywhere.
It just means that he's unleashed that industry to start
doing what it can do. When it comes to immigration,
I think he will sign back into effect the remain
in Mexico policy and then whatever other measures they have
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on the table to so call air quote here seal
the border. And then Tom Holman has promised that starting
in Chicago and in some other cities around the country,
they will begin the program of deportations. You can expect
ICE and this is going to be fun. You can
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expect ICE to probably do some high profile arrests. Now,
they're not going to arrest the guy that's working in
some convenience store somewhere and haul his ass out and
leave the mother and the children back crying at the doorstep.
I don't know. You're not going to see that, but
you very well may see a bunch of trend of
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Rogua gang members from Venezuela who have already committed crimes
in their home country. Or you may see some of
the people who have gotten through the CBP APP who
are here, who have already committed crimes but have been
released haven't seen a trial yet. You may see them
rounded up and then put on a white painted plane
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with just a tail number and flown back to Caracas
or Mexico City, or Guatemala or wherever. Now, we're not
meant to be governed by FIA, but some of these
things that have been put in place are well within
the power of the executive to do. It's just taking,
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for example, the power of the presidency under the Immigration
and Naturalization Act of nineteen forty two or whatever it is,
and saying, here's what we're going to start doing right now.
Hold on to your hats, because it's going to be
you're going to get blasted by the cabal. Oh my gosh,
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he's overreaching, and then you're going to have the spinmeisters. Oh,
he's doing exactly what you wanted him to do. I'll
be right back. You have stumbled onto the weekend with
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that I want to make comes from this has to
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do with the Trump effect. Comes from all places, the
Washington Post, because at six o'clock this morning, I read
the posts, so you don't have to. They published a
story with this headline, Trump has already conquered DC even
before taking office, and the subhead says his triumphant return
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to power stands in the stark contrast to his divisive
entry in twenty seventeen and departure in twenty twenty one.
And here's the first paragraph. President elect Donald Trump is
returning to Washington triumphant his legal cases are behind him.
Corporate executives are flocking Tomorrowlogo to meet with him. His
inaugural committee has raised record sums of money for Monday ceremony,
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and the Republican Party is now fully in his control.
And of course they then have to compare it in
contrast to the twenty seventeen inauguration. They point out that
many of his cabinet picks appear poised to sail through
the Republican controlled Senate, including what they describe as the
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controversial pick for Defense Secretary, Pete Hagesith, whose nomination actually
did and they're right, his nomination did seem in danger
just a month ago, and as we just talked about,
the Post says they expect Trump to sign scores of
executive orders as he takes office, especially on the border,
a central issue to his campaign. In this which I
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think is pretty unusually insightful for The Washington Post, he
is personally closer to his proposed cabinet and other top
aides compared with eight years ago, and is enjoying some
of the highest favorability ratings of his political career. That's
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my point about the time out. He has chosen people
that he knows that he knows more than just Oh,
I've heard that Rex Tillerman was really good at running
what was it, excellent mobile or something. I know these
are people that he has heard seen in action and
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that he thinks will be a good part of a team.
I think he's actually putting a team together this time.
And we The Post points out too that Israel Hamas
have agreed to this cease fire and hostage release. As
I've said before, I think that that is a bad deal,
but I understand why the Israelis are doing it. I
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understand why Trump's doing it, and it's because they know
the long term that this deal is going to fall apart,
and that when it falls apart, the Israelis can do
what they intended to do, and that is that their
country will never have peace until Hamas has been obliterated
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from the face of the earth and Hasblaw has been decimated.
They can't do that right now, but they can with
a cease fire that's in place that inevitably, mark my words,
inevitably Hamas or has belaw will violate this ceasefire green.
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So they're playing I think Net and Yahoo and Trump
are playing three D chess here and they know that
while this is not a good deal in the short term,
it gets some of the hostages back, which is very
important to the Israelis, and it will eventually be violated,
and then with Trump in office, they can do what
they need to do. You know, my mother in law
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used to have a saying that when my wife and
I first got married, drove me crazy, But it's true.
Sometimes you just got to do what you got to do.
And I think that's what this is, the ceasefire agreement,
and we got this. Corporate America is embracing Trump. Eight
years ago, think about this. Eight years ago, there were
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millions of people protesting against Trump. Now, I'm sure there'll
be protests. The Democrats just can't they can't resist, you know,
the left cannot resist a good protest. But what have
you heard. There are none of these dire warnings, none
of this. You know that BLM and that you know,
Occupy Wall Street and all of these people are going
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to be, you know, trying to disrupt. And now I
would caution everybody to be you know, if you're in
d C, keep your head on a swivel because there
will be troublemakers. But there's not this wide spread fear
of all of these people showing up. I think it's
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really truly the dawn of a new America. We'll see right,
and we'll see together. Because I'm gonna sign off now,
but i'll see you next weekend. Everybody, take care,