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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, Michael, they're talking about physical access to those servers.
That's Blowney, They've got to be on a network somewhere.
You can't just physically walk up to a box and
sign into it. It's on a network. People can access it.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Morning Brown and Dragon.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Yeah, funny thing, paper ballots don't require passwords.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Have a great day. Both points are great points, but
let's go back to the first point. I'm trying to
think I can connect to I can turn on my laptop,
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and I can I'm just using laptop as an example.
I can turn on my laptop without it being connected
to a network, and I can access soft where that
is installed on the hard drive. I still have to
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have I have a password or access code, whatever you
want to call it to unlock my laptop. And again
I can do that without being connected to the network.
But for anything, For example, if I want to access
(01:29):
Adobe's Creative Cloud, because those that software as a service
is not on my hard drive. It's in the cloud,
so I have to be connected to the internet in
order to access those programs. If I want to download
email off the server, I have to be connected to
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the network somewhere. So to your point about the machines.
I do believe the machines could be disconnected from any network,
including their local area network. So so their land inside
the Secretary of State's office, the machines could be disconnected
from that. They could walk into a machine, turn the
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machine on, and it require a password, much like I
require a password to boot my system up the bios.
I've got to do that, and I can do that
without it being connected to the network. So I would
think the same thing would be true with the machines. However,
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for the machines to function to do what they're supposed
to do, which is to you know, read ballance, yet
they have to be they have to be connected somehow.
But that well, I think that's an important point to distinguish.
That does not distract at all from the fact that
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you had passwords, words that would allow you access to
the hardware on the Internet on a spreadsheet. I mean,
let's quit calling a spreadsheet, let's call it a sticky note.
You had the password for the machines on a sticky note,
and then you hit the sticky note by putting another
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sticky note on top of that sticky note to hide
the password that you had on the back sticky note.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
No one will ever find it there.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
That's right, That'll never look behind that one sticky note
that you've lifted up so many times that it doesn't
really fold down, It just hangs up there. How do
I know that? Because I can walk through this building
and I can show you places where that occurs. People.
It's stupid. It's just stupid. Oh my gosh. The other
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thing I want to address before we move on to
the to the topics I had at hand. I walk
in this.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
Morning the garbage topics.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Garbage you mean the topics And I'm gonna talk about
the garbage topics or the topics that I'm going to
talk about now there are the garbage topics. What are
you referring to there? Yes, God, I hate you, bald
headed a hole anything. Anyway, I walk in it again.
People are trying to convince me. Uh. There are two examples,
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actually there are three examples. The first and this has
more to do with our side of the political spectrum
that it does with the other side. Last hour is them,
this hour is us, and that is YouTube is trying
to bury, and YouTube's trying to de platform, YouTube's trying
to shadow band, YouTube's doing all these things, and I
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can't find the Trump Rogan interview. So I come in.
I go to YouTube dot com. And at YouTube dot
com there's a search bar at the very top. There's
a drop down menu over here. Let's see what's going
to go. The menu home, short, subscriptions, history, blah blah blah. Okay,
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Then there's the little YouTube, the little YouTube symbol, and
then there's a search bar. Now I type in Joe
Rogan Trump. Everybody tells me. If I do that, I
get all sorts of other bs. No, right at the
very top, Dragon, you looked at it, right, you'll you
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you will actually confirm what I'm saying for once.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
Right, unfortunately, Yes, okay, thank you.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Joe Rogan experienced number twenty two to nineteen Donald Trump.
Thirty nine million views occurred four days ago.
Speaker 5 (05:39):
Which is two million more than yesterday. Yesterday brought it right,
two million more. And just as a friendly reminder, sorry
to jump on here, Michael, that the average Joe Rogan
podcast alone got five hundred thousand to a million views.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
Right, So this is this is.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
This is almost forty times what the average.
Speaker 5 (05:59):
Is and and count and double in one day.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
In one day, right and double in one day. So
let's let's stop with YouTube. Now. I don't care whether
you like YouTube or not, it doesn't make any difference
to me. But stop spreading the false information that YouTube
is somehow trying to bury the Joe Rogan interview. They're not.
It's right there. Then the next thing I hear is
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that Google is trying to do it. So I open
a browser, I open Safari. I make sure that my sir,
because my default search engine is Go, I change it
to Google, and so I type in these four search
terms Joe Rogan, Donald Trump. The number one hit is
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a link back to the YouTube with thirty nine point
four million views. That's number one. And then there are,
of course, are the top stories. Let's see Fox News,
National Review, MSNBC, CNN. The next story is CNN fact
Check thirty two false claims Trump made it show Rogan. Well,
(07:14):
of course they're gonna do that. The third hit is Spotify.
The fourth hit is New York Times, NBC News, Apple, Instagram, Newsweek, Spotify.
Come on, everybody, please just stop it.
Speaker 5 (07:29):
Then the next one, I think it stemmed from an
actual post tweet whatever you want to call him. Today
on X where Joe Rogan put out since there's an
issue with searching for this episode on YouTube. Here's the
full podcast with Trump, and gave the full two hours,
fifty eight minutes and fifty seconds on x on Twitter,
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so I'll posted it there. So I think that may
have started from Joe himself. So maybe he was seeing
some back end numbers that felt made him feel like
he wasn't getting everything that he was Okay.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Well, then then then maybe I should put a disclaimer
in here that says, perhaps yesterday, YouTube and Google, we're
trying to do something, and he made this.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
He made this post on the twenty eighth.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Okay, well, okay, so as of what five point thirty
this morning, when we checked it as a five thirty
this morning, it was perfectly fine. So we need to
stop spreading that kind of stuff. Now. The third point
that I want to make, I'm not in I don't
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have all the facts, So I want that disclaimer right
up front. I don't have all the facts. Your mileage
may vary, and if it does, send me a text
message or an email and show me some evidence. But
in Bucks County, Pennsylvania, I keep hearing that voters are
not being allowed to vote during while the polls are open,
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you know, between the hours of what whatever their hours are.
Let's just say it's seven am to seven pm, and
that uniform police officers are preventing people from entering the building.
So I went through it and I dug around and
to see what I could find. And it appears that
that is not true, that there are no I could
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not find. I found a couple of photographs of a
couple of emergency services personnel in you know, kind of
the blue like cop blue shirts, standing out front, and
there were people that were facing them. But they may
or may not be let in. Now there may be
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and yes, I'm trying to rationalize this because I simply
don't believe it. There may be a limited number of
people that they can allow in the building to cast
their balance at any one time. It's like when you
line up to vote. You know, if you line up
to vote and you're standing outside, that's not because they're
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preventing you from voting. It's because there's no room inside.
It's because your turn to move inside the door. It's
like wait. It's like waiting in line for rolling Stones tickets.
It's like waiting in line to get the you know,
pick up your Apple, your iPhone sixteen or whatever, whatever
the current number is. It's like waiting in line to
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It's like waiting in line to come into the studio
to meet yours. Truly, why that line would be all
the way out to the interstate.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
Imaginary?
Speaker 2 (10:40):
I don't I don't see anybody wondering. I've ain't seen
anybody loitering.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
If pat's not even walking around, that's right.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
There's not a soul out there. There's not anybody looking
to get in here. So can we just stop with
that stuff?
Speaker 4 (10:54):
Please?
Speaker 2 (10:56):
We have an election to win, and if there is
some legitimate thing going on, but I think this is
the if. If you want to know one bad thing
about the Internet, it's this, and it's just somebody says
one thing and it gets amplified, it gets magnified, and
it just gets blown out of proportion, and there's just
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there's just no reason for that. Kamala Harris spoke yesterday.
I was just in Georgia.
Speaker 6 (11:26):
You know they passed along that makes it illegal to
get people food and water for standing in line to vote.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
Not gasp, what gasp?
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Uh No, that's exactly not true. She just can't handle
the truth. They made it easier to vote harder to
cheat in Georgia. In fact, as a result.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
Wasn't it the Jim Crow two point on?
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Jim Crow? This is this is now because now we're
getting closer to the election. This is now jumped. This
is now Jim Crow four point two.
Speaker 5 (12:01):
And remember that's why the course field got an All
Star Game and not Atlanta rights exact.
Speaker 6 (12:12):
So yeah, I was just in Georgia. You know, they
passed along that makes it illegal to get people food
and water for standing in line. The boat hypocrisy, it bounds.
Whatever happened to love thy neighbor? Right?
Speaker 2 (12:31):
What does that have to do? You think? What does
love my neighbor have to do with giving water, you know,
out to people. Uh. The other thing that happened yesterday
was she went to the Ellipse to talk about how
Donald Trump is a threat to democracy. So she thought
it would be pretty fun to go out there and
campaign the same place that he did. Make her closing
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argument so to speak about how you know Trump bad,
hairs good and that he is going to put people
in jail and heat you know, blah blah. Well, while
she was doing that, think about this now, have you
ever been to the Ellipse. So the Ellipse is on
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the It is just off the south lawn of the
White House. Now there's a street that separates the two,
but that street is now blocked off. But anyway, anyways,
it's it's access to the White House. But the the
south Portico, it overlooks the Ellipse. So Joe Biden, who
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is the current President of the United State, this is
just so funny to me. The current President of the
United States of America could walk out into the south portico,
the balcony, the upper balcony on the Residents. He could
walk out on the balcony and he and doctor Jill
Biden could pull up a couple of chaise lounge chairs
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and and sit there with I don't know, a glass
of bourbon or something, a little sip of tequila or
maybe for Joe, some ice cream, you know, some chocolate
chip ice cream, and they could sit there and they
could watch her give her closing argument. Yes, and so
what's the best part about that visual is this Kamala
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Harris wouldn't see him because her back would be to
the White House. Because she has it set up rightfully,
so so that the White House is in the background.
But that means that everybody facing Kamala Harris and looking
at the White House would see the current president sitting
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up on the balcony. I'm not saying he did this.
I'm just saying he could have done this. He actually
did something better. They can all look up and say, oh,
look there's the guy that they booted out. She's talking
about Trump being a threat to democracy. And while she's
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doing that, the guy that they took the nomination away
from forced him to decide, No, I'm not going to
run again. I really want to, but I'm not going
to because Nancy doesn't want me to run again. They
told me I can't, told me I can't. So I'm
just gonna sit up here and I'm gonna pout, and
then I'm going to do this.
Speaker 4 (15:23):
Where's my ice cream?
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Report? Where's my ice cream? Have the butler bring me
some ice cream?
Speaker 3 (15:29):
Jill or Puerto Rico, where I'm in my home state
of Delaware. They're good, decent, honorable people.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
No, but you just listen to it.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
Listen to it. It sounds like exactly what I just
told you.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Just listen to the whole thing.
Speaker 5 (15:44):
Oh I want to listen just that beginning part Puerto Rico,
where I'm from, I mean from a lot of people
I know.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
He shut up.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
Or Puerto Rico, where I'm in my home state of Delaware.
They're good and honorable people. The only garbage I see
flowing down there is his supporters. His demonizational scene is unconstable,
and it's on American.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Oh, Puerto Rican. So all of you that support Trump
are garbage. Donald Trump's apostrophe s supporters. Now you know
what the cleanup was on Aisle twelve apostrophe. Yes, Kareem
Abdul Jabbar says, well, the White House transcript put the
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apostrophe in the wrong place and an s we needed
to it's Trump apostrophe s. So Trump's supporter trying to
refer back to the comedian, He didn't really say that
all Trump's supporters are garbage. Now, Actually he did, because
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we just listened to him for Puerto Rican.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
I'm in my home state of Delaware for good, decent,
honorable people. Johnny garbage actually slowed down there is his supporters,
his his his demonization is unconsciable.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
And yes, he did sound like he started to say.
Speaker 6 (17:16):
Where I'm from Michael, didn't you hear in President Biden's
speech where the apostrophe was?
Speaker 4 (17:25):
Why? I heard it clear as a bell, didn't you?
Dragon just saying or tight.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
Because it really is funny, and I really do hate,
I really hate giving Dragon any sort of credit whatsoever.
But listen closely to the beginning. It's it's it's not
the point of the soundbind but nonetheless it's hilarious. He
almost says.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
Or Puerto Rico where I'm.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
Puerto Rico, where I'm from, from, Puerto Rico, where I'm
going to church every Sunday, Puerto Rico where I'm working,
Puerto Rico where I'm sleeping tonight, Puerto Rico where I'm
having dinner Colleen.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
Or Puerto Rico where I'm in my home state of Delaware.
They're good, decent, honorable people. The only garbage I see
flowing down there is his supporters. Let's Puerto Rico, where
I'm in my home state of Delaware. They're good, decent,
honorable people. The only garbage I see flowing down there
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is his supporters.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
The only garbage I see out there are his supporters.
And yet they have to change the transcript to Donald
Trump's supporters. Oh okay, got it. Uh. Tomu delivered her
closing remarks or closing argument yesterday. She'll still be campaigning.
They're still campaigning.
Speaker 5 (18:52):
Sorry, I want to jump back here relatively quickly about
the Joe Biden garbage.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Oh my god, seriousness, is.
Speaker 4 (18:58):
This the last thing for the moment? I swear?
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Uh?
Speaker 5 (19:01):
He did clarify on Twitter earlier today, I referred to
the hateful rhetoric about Puerto Rico spewed by Trump's supporter
at the Madison Square Guardian Joe you're talking about Joe
Rogan Joe Biden. Oh, Joe Biden? Did I say Rogan?
I apologize if I said Brogan Joe Biden. My apology.
So Joe Biden on Twitter posted that the earlier today,
I referred to the hateful rhetoric about Puerto Rico spewed
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by a Trump supporter at Madison Square Garden rally as garbage,
which is the only word I can think of to
describe it. He demonized the Latinos, of excuse me. His
demonization of Latinos is unconscionable. That's all I meant to say.
The comments at the rally don't reflect who we are
as a nation. I find this interesting because I'm not
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sure everybody knows, but there are two Joe Biden accounts
right now floating on right.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
There's a police account and there's Joe Biden.
Speaker 5 (19:57):
Which one do you think this one came from?
Speaker 2 (20:02):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (20:03):
This is the Joe Biden account, oh, not the Potus account.
So he is speaking as Joe Biden, not ass Oh.
I just find that interesting as all.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Yeah, and it is interesting because it was an official
White House statement, So why would you not correct it
on the official White House? That's great, I agree anyway.
So so Kamala delivers her so called closing argument, and
the closing argument, of course, is delivered from the ellipse,
because that's where democracy, where the demise of democracy almost started.
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It culminated in that way. You know, have they finished
rebuilding the Capitol building yet it's been like three years.
I don't know, is it done.
Speaker 4 (20:48):
I think they've got another five or six years ago.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Okay, So you know, so that crowd that was that
was encouraged by Donald Trump. You know, now let's go,
let's go march forcefully, and then let's get our sledgehammers
and our jackhammers and our bazookahs and our flash bang grenades,
and let's do everything we can to destroy that building.
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Get up there and destroy that building. And you get
Mike Pence and you go, hang Mike Pence. You do
all of that. Remember all that? Remember him saying all
those things. Oh you don't remember that, Well, then you
weren't paying attention. Well, Commala reminded us of that in
her closing argument yesterday. But listen to just there are
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two things to listen here, her words and the background.
Speaker 6 (21:38):
Look, we know who Donald Trump is. He is the
person who stood at this very spot nearly four years ago.
Speaker 7 (21:49):
And sent an armed mob to.
Speaker 6 (21:51):
The United States Capital to overturn the will of the
people in a.
Speaker 7 (21:57):
Free and fair election, an election that he knew he lost.
Speaker 6 (22:06):
Americans died as a result of that attack. One hundred
and forty law enforcement officers were injured because of that attack.
And while Donald Trump sat in the White House watching
as the violence unfolded on television, he was told by
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his staff that the mob wanted to kill his own
vice president, and Donald Trump responded with two words, So what, America.
That's who Donald Trump is, and that's who is asking
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you to give him another four years in the Oval office.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
I have no clue what she said, none whatsoever, because
that sound by that one't men in fifteen seconds. For
me is a flashback that brings back so many memories of,
for example, me telling my security detail, hey, you know what,
let me out here. I want to walk the rest
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of the way back to the office.
Speaker 4 (23:15):
I was far too distracted as to what the hell she.
Speaker 5 (23:17):
Was saying by the siren, he'll let me finish.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
So it's a flashback of me saying to my security detail,
let me out of the car because I want to
walk the rest away. It's a nice day, yuh. And
they would be like, well, okay, so they'd stop the car,
let me out. But then one or sometimes two of them,
depending on how many cars were with me, we'll get
out and walk behind me. And why because did you
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hear the siren? Yes? Now, my curiosity is really distracted
by where is that cop car going. Is it going
to Capitol Hill northeast because there's been a shooting. Is
it going to Capitol Hill southwest because there's been a robbery.
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Is it going to oh, I don't know, up to
DuPont Circle because there's been uh, you know, a smash
and grab. What are they doing? All I can think
of is it was such reminder to me. You've been
in New York City and you know, you just hear
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all the sounds of the city, and one of the
sounds of the city is the background noise. And in
the background noise of places like Washington and Chicago and Washington,
DC is the constant den of sirens. Sometimes it's fire trucks,
sometimes it's ambulances. Most of the time it's cop cars.
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So here she is trying to talk about how dangerous
Donald Trump is while in the background all we hear
are police sirens.
Speaker 5 (25:00):
I also got a little concern because those sirens got louder,
meaning they're getting closer to the source.
Speaker 4 (25:05):
Of the microphone. So it's like, uh, we know, who,
don't anybody they're in danger.
Speaker 6 (25:11):
He is the person who stood at this very spot
nearly four years.
Speaker 7 (25:17):
Ago and sent an armed mob.
Speaker 6 (25:20):
To the United States Capital to overturn the will of
the people in a.
Speaker 7 (25:26):
Free and fair election, an election that he knew he lost.
Speaker 6 (25:35):
Americans died as a result of that attack.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
I think somebody may have just died while she's giving
a speech. Yeah, I'm not quite sure whether that's an eight.
I think that's that sounds more like a cop car
than does an ambulance man just has slightly different sirens
than that. It's not a fire truck, and there's a
distinctive sound that that's that's a cop car. So they're
they're headed somewhere, And based on the fact that the
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sound is not traveling away but toward, means they're probably
going down Constitution Avenue, Independence Avenue. They're somewhere pretty close
on the Ellipse, there's somewhere on the National Mall. They
could even be up on K Street somewhere, but they
are going east. It sounds to me, based on the
fact that this audio is probably facing her, that they're
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going from west to east, which means they're going to
work Capitol Hill, which means they're probably going up to
you know, Capitol Hill northeast or southwest, you know, on
the Green Line, for example, which is a somewhat dangerous territory.
It's not I mean, it's it's it's gentrifying. It's where
the new Natz Stadium is, but it's still kind of
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a rough area of town. And while she's telling us
about a threat to democracy that he is. That's going
on in the background.
Speaker 6 (26:54):
One hundred and forty law enforcement officers were injured because
of that at.
Speaker 7 (27:01):
And while Donald.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
Trump's maybe those cars are still going trying to find
those cops. Maybe they're going to look for the killer
of Ashley Babbitt. Maybe that's what they're.
Speaker 4 (27:12):
Doing that in the White House watching.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
Well, you know, that's kind of interesting because the White
House right now or last night was watching. Yeah, Joe
Biden was sitting up there watching. He was probably, you know,
I gotta say something because that could be me down there,
That could have been you know, Jill, that could have
been us down there doing that. They pushed me out.
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I got to do something to take away from all
of her attention. What should I do? Well, you know
Trump Trump, Trump himself called everybody garbage, So why don't
you go and call everybody garbage?
Speaker 6 (27:47):
And the violence unfolded on television. He was told by
his staff that the mom wanted to kill his own
vice president, and Donald Trump responded with two words, So what.
Speaker 7 (28:08):
America.
Speaker 6 (28:08):
That's who Donald Trump is and that's what's asking you.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
I wonder who the victim is that the police are
going after?
Speaker 4 (28:16):
Nie Maybe I'm the only one noticing this morning.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
All the Harris ads I'm hearing on the radio today,
they all got a Puerto Rican accent. I haven't heard
any Harris ads this morning, so I don't know switch
gears the next hour. I want to go back to
Harris's speech, and I want to go back to this
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whole idea that the newspapers are not endorsing candidates, or
at least a couple of the major newspapers are not,
because I think that says a lot about what's happening
to the media, and I think the media probably learned
a lesson from the Joe Rogan podcast with Donald Trump.
It's really fascinating. But before we do, I ran across
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this story yesterday which is totally shifteen years here for
a month. Do you know how California suffers from brownouts
and blackouts all the time. Well, the Colorado Sun had
a story yesterday and they the language they used in
the story was just like orgasmic. They were so excited
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because Tri State Generation, which is a private power company.
It's a municipally I shouldn't say them meansily owned, but
it's a private power company. They provide a lot of
electricity to it. It's a kind of like a real
electric co op. In fact that it may be a
real electric co op. But they're winning kudos and praise
(29:52):
from a bunch of greeny weenies, a bunch of environmentalists,
because they've announced a plan to aggressive go after renewable energy. Now,
if they were doing this on their own, I'd say, well,
stupid to be you, But have at it. They want
to expand their wind and energy and they want to
(30:13):
shut down their coal fired power plants. So how are
they going to do it? They got two point five
billion dollars. Yeah, you know where this is going in
taxpayer money, in loans and grants from the federal government
to retire their existing coal fired plants and to start
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the acquisition of new what they call reliable renewable energy
sources wind and solar. You know that don't work when
there's no wind or there's no sun. And the story
struck me as why, and I would say, it's because
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the keyese in the mouse trap is there, and the
keys and the mouse trap, the keys is the federal money,
and the mouse trap is convert to wind and solar.
And then there was this little comment Tri State claims
that this move to wind and energy is going to
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reduce your electric rates by the year twenty thirty four. Now,
what'd you stop and think for a moment, why are
we paying for this? If Tri State Generation wants to,
you know, close down their coal fired power plants, a
reliable source of power and exchange those for unreliable sources
(31:42):
of power, then tell their ratepayers, tell their consumers, Tell
all the people in the in the in the Tri
State region that buy power from Tri State Generation. Hey,
we want to go to wind and solar. See how
that works out for them. So we're paying for them
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to shut down the power plants, the coal fires, and
to start building wind and solar, and they're telling us that, hey,
your rates will go down by the year twenty thirty four.
Do you believe that for once? I don't believe that
for one second. And I'd like to know why are
we paying for it? Why why should federal tax dollars
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go to for them to convert? And then my other
question would be this, if the federal tax dollars were
not there, if the Green New Deal money was not there,
then would they be doing this. My guess is they
probably wouldn't because don't we don't you and I want
at least I do. I want when I flip the
(32:48):
light switch on, when I push the garage door opener,
when when I open the refrigerator or I go out
to the freezer, I tar on. You know, give my
computer I expected to charge, I expected to be power
tri State generation. Use your own money and quit lying
(33:10):
to us about how it's going to be just electric rates.
But you're twenty thirty four. You want to bet whether
it really does or not. Yeah, I'll bet that it doesn't.
Hey, Michael, they're talking about physical access to those servers.
That's Blowney, They've got to be on a network somewhere.
You can't just physically walk up to a box and
sign into it. It's on a network. People can access it.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Morning Brown and Dragon.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Yeah, funny thing, paper ballots don't require passwords.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Have a great day. Both points are great points, but
let's go back to the first point. I'm trying to
think I can connect to I can turn on my laptop,
(00:44):
and I can I'm just using laptop as an example.
I can turn on my laptop without it being connected
to a network, and I can access soft where that
is installed on the hard drive. I still have to
(01:05):
have I have a password or access code, whatever you
want to call it to unlock my laptop. And again
I can do that without being connected to the network.
But for anything, For example, if I want to access
(01:29):
Adobe's Creative Cloud, because those that software as a service
is not on my hard drive. It's in the cloud,
so I have to be connected to the internet in
order to access those programs. If I want to download
email off the server, I have to be connected to
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the network somewhere. So to your point about the machines.
I do believe the machines could be disconnected from any network,
including their local area network. So so their land inside
the Secretary of State's office, the machines could be disconnected
from that. They could walk into a machine, turn the
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machine on, and it require a password, much like I
require a password to boot my system up the bios.
I've got to do that, and I can do that
without it being connected to the network. So I would
think the same thing would be true with the machines. However,
(02:37):
for the machines to function to do what they're supposed
to do, which is to you know, read ballance, yet
they have to be they have to be connected somehow.
But that well, I think that's an important point to distinguish.
That does not distract at all from the fact that
(02:58):
you had passwords, words that would allow you access to
the hardware on the Internet on a spreadsheet. I mean,
let's quit calling a spreadsheet, let's call it a sticky note.
You had the password for the machines on a sticky note,
and then you hit the sticky note by putting another
(03:21):
sticky note on top of that sticky note to hide
the password that you had on the back sticky note.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
No one will ever find it there.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
That's right, That'll never look behind that one sticky note
that you've lifted up so many times that it doesn't
really fold down, It just hangs up there. How do
I know that? Because I can walk through this building
and I can show you places where that occurs. People.
It's stupid. It's just stupid. Oh my gosh. The other
(03:52):
thing I want to address before we move on to
the to the topics I had at hand. I walk
in this.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
Morning the garbage topics.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Garbage you mean the topics And I'm gonna talk about
the garbage topics or the topics that I'm going to
talk about now there are the garbage topics. What are
you referring to there? Yes, God, I hate you, bald
headed a hole anything. Anyway, I walk in it again.
People are trying to convince me. Uh. There are two examples,
(04:22):
actually there are three examples. The first and this has
more to do with our side of the political spectrum
that it does with the other side. Last hour is them,
this hour is us, and that is YouTube is trying
to bury, and YouTube's trying to de platform, YouTube's trying
to shadow band, YouTube's doing all these things, and I
(04:43):
can't find the Trump Rogan interview. So I come in.
I go to YouTube dot com. And at YouTube dot
com there's a search bar at the very top. There's
a drop down menu over here. Let's see what's going
to go. The menu home, short, subscriptions, history, blah blah blah. Okay,
(05:04):
Then there's the little YouTube, the little YouTube symbol, and
then there's a search bar. Now I type in Joe
Rogan Trump. Everybody tells me. If I do that, I
get all sorts of other bs. No, right at the
very top, Dragon, you looked at it, right, you'll you
(05:26):
you will actually confirm what I'm saying for once.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
Right, unfortunately, Yes, okay, thank you.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Joe Rogan experienced number twenty two to nineteen Donald Trump.
Thirty nine million views occurred four days ago.
Speaker 5 (05:39):
Which is two million more than yesterday. Yesterday brought it right,
two million more. And just as a friendly reminder, sorry
to jump on here, Michael, that the average Joe Rogan
podcast alone got five hundred thousand to a million views.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
Right, So this is this is.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
This is almost forty times what the average.
Speaker 5 (05:59):
Is and and count and double in one day.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
In one day, right and double in one day. So
let's let's stop with YouTube. Now. I don't care whether
you like YouTube or not, it doesn't make any difference
to me. But stop spreading the false information that YouTube
is somehow trying to bury the Joe Rogan interview. They're not.
It's right there. Then the next thing I hear is
(06:26):
that Google is trying to do it. So I open
a browser, I open Safari. I make sure that my sir,
because my default search engine is Go, I change it
to Google, and so I type in these four search
terms Joe Rogan, Donald Trump. The number one hit is
(06:53):
a link back to the YouTube with thirty nine point
four million views. That's number one. And then there are,
of course, are the top stories. Let's see Fox News,
National Review, MSNBC, CNN. The next story is CNN fact
Check thirty two false claims Trump made it show Rogan. Well,
(07:14):
of course they're gonna do that. The third hit is Spotify.
The fourth hit is New York Times, NBC News, Apple, Instagram, Newsweek, Spotify.
Come on, everybody, please just stop it.
Speaker 5 (07:29):
Then the next one, I think it stemmed from an
actual post tweet whatever you want to call him. Today
on X where Joe Rogan put out since there's an
issue with searching for this episode on YouTube. Here's the
full podcast with Trump, and gave the full two hours,
fifty eight minutes and fifty seconds on x on Twitter,
(07:50):
so I'll posted it there. So I think that may
have started from Joe himself. So maybe he was seeing
some back end numbers that felt made him feel like
he wasn't getting everything that he was Okay.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Well, then then then maybe I should put a disclaimer
in here that says, perhaps yesterday, YouTube and Google, we're
trying to do something, and he made this.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
He made this post on the twenty eighth.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Okay, well, okay, so as of what five point thirty
this morning, when we checked it as a five thirty
this morning, it was perfectly fine. So we need to
stop spreading that kind of stuff. Now. The third point
that I want to make, I'm not in I don't
(08:37):
have all the facts, So I want that disclaimer right
up front. I don't have all the facts. Your mileage
may vary, and if it does, send me a text
message or an email and show me some evidence. But
in Bucks County, Pennsylvania, I keep hearing that voters are
not being allowed to vote during while the polls are open,
(08:58):
you know, between the hours of what whatever their hours are.
Let's just say it's seven am to seven pm, and
that uniform police officers are preventing people from entering the building.
So I went through it and I dug around and
to see what I could find. And it appears that
that is not true, that there are no I could
(09:21):
not find. I found a couple of photographs of a
couple of emergency services personnel in you know, kind of
the blue like cop blue shirts, standing out front, and
there were people that were facing them. But they may
or may not be let in. Now there may be
(09:44):
and yes, I'm trying to rationalize this because I simply
don't believe it. There may be a limited number of
people that they can allow in the building to cast
their balance at any one time. It's like when you
line up to vote. You know, if you line up
to vote and you're standing outside, that's not because they're
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preventing you from voting. It's because there's no room inside.
It's because your turn to move inside the door. It's
like wait. It's like waiting in line for rolling Stones tickets.
It's like waiting in line to get the you know,
pick up your Apple, your iPhone sixteen or whatever, whatever
the current number is. It's like waiting in line to
(10:29):
It's like waiting in line to come into the studio
to meet yours. Truly, why that line would be all
the way out to the interstate.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
Imaginary?
Speaker 2 (10:40):
I don't I don't see anybody wondering. I've ain't seen
anybody loitering.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
If pat's not even walking around, that's right.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
There's not a soul out there. There's not anybody looking
to get in here. So can we just stop with
that stuff?
Speaker 4 (10:54):
Please?
Speaker 2 (10:56):
We have an election to win, and if there is
some legitimate thing going on, but I think this is
the if. If you want to know one bad thing
about the Internet, it's this, and it's just somebody says
one thing and it gets amplified, it gets magnified, and
it just gets blown out of proportion, and there's just
(11:18):
there's just no reason for that. Kamala Harris spoke yesterday.
I was just in Georgia.
Speaker 6 (11:26):
You know they passed along that makes it illegal to
get people food and water for standing in line to vote.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
Not gasp, what gasp?
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Uh No, that's exactly not true. She just can't handle
the truth. They made it easier to vote harder to
cheat in Georgia. In fact, as a result.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
Wasn't it the Jim Crow two point on?
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Jim Crow? This is this is now because now we're
getting closer to the election. This is now jumped. This
is now Jim Crow four point two.
Speaker 5 (12:01):
And remember that's why the course field got an All
Star Game and not Atlanta rights exact.
Speaker 6 (12:12):
So yeah, I was just in Georgia. You know, they
passed along that makes it illegal to get people food
and water for standing in line. The boat hypocrisy, it bounds.
Whatever happened to love thy neighbor? Right?
Speaker 2 (12:31):
What does that have to do? You think? What does
love my neighbor have to do with giving water, you know,
out to people. Uh. The other thing that happened yesterday
was she went to the Ellipse to talk about how
Donald Trump is a threat to democracy. So she thought
it would be pretty fun to go out there and
campaign the same place that he did. Make her closing
(12:54):
argument so to speak about how you know Trump bad,
hairs good and that he is going to put people
in jail and heat you know, blah blah. Well, while
she was doing that, think about this now, have you
ever been to the Ellipse. So the Ellipse is on
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the It is just off the south lawn of the
White House. Now there's a street that separates the two,
but that street is now blocked off. But anyway, anyways,
it's it's access to the White House. But the the
south Portico, it overlooks the Ellipse. So Joe Biden, who
(13:37):
is the current President of the United State, this is
just so funny to me. The current President of the
United States of America could walk out into the south portico,
the balcony, the upper balcony on the Residents. He could
walk out on the balcony and he and doctor Jill
Biden could pull up a couple of chaise lounge chairs
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and and sit there with I don't know, a glass
of bourbon or something, a little sip of tequila or
maybe for Joe, some ice cream, you know, some chocolate
chip ice cream, and they could sit there and they
could watch her give her closing argument. Yes, and so
what's the best part about that visual is this Kamala
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Harris wouldn't see him because her back would be to
the White House. Because she has it set up rightfully,
so so that the White House is in the background.
But that means that everybody facing Kamala Harris and looking
at the White House would see the current president sitting
(14:43):
up on the balcony. I'm not saying he did this.
I'm just saying he could have done this. He actually
did something better. They can all look up and say, oh,
look there's the guy that they booted out. She's talking
about Trump being a threat to democracy. And while she's
(15:04):
doing that, the guy that they took the nomination away
from forced him to decide, No, I'm not going to
run again. I really want to, but I'm not going
to because Nancy doesn't want me to run again. They
told me I can't, told me I can't. So I'm
just gonna sit up here and I'm gonna pout, and
then I'm going to do this.
Speaker 4 (15:23):
Where's my ice cream?
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Report? Where's my ice cream? Have the butler bring me
some ice cream?
Speaker 3 (15:29):
Jill or Puerto Rico, where I'm in my home state
of Delaware. They're good, decent, honorable people.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
No, but you just listen to it.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
Listen to it. It sounds like exactly what I just
told you.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Just listen to the whole thing.
Speaker 5 (15:44):
Oh I want to listen just that beginning part Puerto Rico,
where I'm from, I mean from a lot of people
I know.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
He shut up.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
Or Puerto Rico, where I'm in my home state of Delaware.
They're good and honorable people. The only garbage I see
flowing down there is his supporters. His demonizational scene is unconstable,
and it's on American.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Oh, Puerto Rican. So all of you that support Trump
are garbage. Donald Trump's apostrophe s supporters. Now you know
what the cleanup was on Aisle twelve apostrophe. Yes, Kareem
Abdul Jabbar says, well, the White House transcript put the
(16:36):
apostrophe in the wrong place and an s we needed
to it's Trump apostrophe s. So Trump's supporter trying to
refer back to the comedian, He didn't really say that
all Trump's supporters are garbage. Now, Actually he did, because
(16:57):
we just listened to him for Puerto Rican.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
I'm in my home state of Delaware for good, decent,
honorable people. Johnny garbage actually slowed down there is his supporters,
his his his demonization is unconsciable.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
And yes, he did sound like he started to say.
Speaker 6 (17:16):
Where I'm from Michael, didn't you hear in President Biden's
speech where the apostrophe was?
Speaker 4 (17:25):
Why? I heard it clear as a bell, didn't you?
Dragon just saying or tight.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
Because it really is funny, and I really do hate,
I really hate giving Dragon any sort of credit whatsoever.
But listen closely to the beginning. It's it's it's not
the point of the soundbind but nonetheless it's hilarious. He
almost says.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
Or Puerto Rico where I'm.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
Puerto Rico, where I'm from, from, Puerto Rico, where I'm
going to church every Sunday, Puerto Rico where I'm working,
Puerto Rico where I'm sleeping tonight, Puerto Rico where I'm
having dinner Colleen.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
Or Puerto Rico where I'm in my home state of Delaware.
They're good, decent, honorable people. The only garbage I see
flowing down there is his supporters. Let's Puerto Rico, where
I'm in my home state of Delaware. They're good, decent,
honorable people. The only garbage I see flowing down there
(18:30):
is his supporters.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
The only garbage I see out there are his supporters.
And yet they have to change the transcript to Donald
Trump's supporters. Oh okay, got it. Uh. Tomu delivered her
closing remarks or closing argument yesterday. She'll still be campaigning.
They're still campaigning.
Speaker 5 (18:52):
Sorry, I want to jump back here relatively quickly about
the Joe Biden garbage.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Oh my god, seriousness, is.
Speaker 4 (18:58):
This the last thing for the moment? I swear?
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Uh?
Speaker 5 (19:01):
He did clarify on Twitter earlier today, I referred to
the hateful rhetoric about Puerto Rico spewed by Trump's supporter
at the Madison Square Guardian Joe you're talking about Joe
Rogan Joe Biden. Oh, Joe Biden? Did I say Rogan?
I apologize if I said Brogan Joe Biden. My apology.
So Joe Biden on Twitter posted that the earlier today,
I referred to the hateful rhetoric about Puerto Rico spewed
(19:23):
by a Trump supporter at Madison Square Garden rally as garbage,
which is the only word I can think of to
describe it. He demonized the Latinos, of excuse me. His
demonization of Latinos is unconscionable. That's all I meant to say.
The comments at the rally don't reflect who we are
as a nation. I find this interesting because I'm not
(19:47):
sure everybody knows, but there are two Joe Biden accounts
right now floating on right.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
There's a police account and there's Joe Biden.
Speaker 5 (19:57):
Which one do you think this one came from?
Speaker 2 (20:02):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (20:03):
This is the Joe Biden account, oh, not the Potus account.
So he is speaking as Joe Biden, not ass Oh.
I just find that interesting as all.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Yeah, and it is interesting because it was an official
White House statement, So why would you not correct it
on the official White House? That's great, I agree anyway.
So so Kamala delivers her so called closing argument, and
the closing argument, of course, is delivered from the ellipse,
because that's where democracy, where the demise of democracy almost started.
(20:40):
It culminated in that way. You know, have they finished
rebuilding the Capitol building yet it's been like three years.
I don't know, is it done.
Speaker 4 (20:48):
I think they've got another five or six years ago.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Okay, So you know, so that crowd that was that
was encouraged by Donald Trump. You know, now let's go,
let's go march forcefully, and then let's get our sledgehammers
and our jackhammers and our bazookahs and our flash bang grenades,
and let's do everything we can to destroy that building.
(21:10):
Get up there and destroy that building. And you get
Mike Pence and you go, hang Mike Pence. You do
all of that. Remember all that? Remember him saying all
those things. Oh you don't remember that, Well, then you
weren't paying attention. Well, Commala reminded us of that in
her closing argument yesterday. But listen to just there are
(21:31):
two things to listen here, her words and the background.
Speaker 6 (21:38):
Look, we know who Donald Trump is. He is the
person who stood at this very spot nearly four years ago.
Speaker 7 (21:49):
And sent an armed mob to.
Speaker 6 (21:51):
The United States Capital to overturn the will of the
people in a.
Speaker 7 (21:57):
Free and fair election, an election that he knew he lost.
Speaker 6 (22:06):
Americans died as a result of that attack. One hundred
and forty law enforcement officers were injured because of that attack.
And while Donald Trump sat in the White House watching
as the violence unfolded on television, he was told by
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his staff that the mob wanted to kill his own
vice president, and Donald Trump responded with two words, So what, America.
That's who Donald Trump is, and that's who is asking
(22:48):
you to give him another four years in the Oval office.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
I have no clue what she said, none whatsoever, because
that sound by that one't men in fifteen seconds. For
me is a flashback that brings back so many memories of,
for example, me telling my security detail, hey, you know what,
let me out here. I want to walk the rest
(23:13):
of the way back to the office.
Speaker 4 (23:15):
I was far too distracted as to what the hell she.
Speaker 5 (23:17):
Was saying by the siren, he'll let me finish.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
So it's a flashback of me saying to my security detail,
let me out of the car because I want to
walk the rest away. It's a nice day, yuh. And
they would be like, well, okay, so they'd stop the car,
let me out. But then one or sometimes two of them,
depending on how many cars were with me, we'll get
out and walk behind me. And why because did you
(23:42):
hear the siren? Yes? Now, my curiosity is really distracted
by where is that cop car going. Is it going
to Capitol Hill northeast because there's been a shooting. Is
it going to Capitol Hill southwest because there's been a robbery.
(24:04):
Is it going to oh, I don't know, up to
DuPont Circle because there's been uh, you know, a smash
and grab. What are they doing? All I can think
of is it was such reminder to me. You've been
in New York City and you know, you just hear
(24:25):
all the sounds of the city, and one of the
sounds of the city is the background noise. And in
the background noise of places like Washington and Chicago and Washington,
DC is the constant den of sirens. Sometimes it's fire trucks,
sometimes it's ambulances. Most of the time it's cop cars.
(24:50):
So here she is trying to talk about how dangerous
Donald Trump is while in the background all we hear
are police sirens.
Speaker 5 (25:00):
I also got a little concern because those sirens got louder,
meaning they're getting closer to the source.
Speaker 4 (25:05):
Of the microphone. So it's like, uh, we know, who,
don't anybody they're in danger.
Speaker 6 (25:11):
He is the person who stood at this very spot
nearly four years.
Speaker 7 (25:17):
Ago and sent an armed mob.
Speaker 6 (25:20):
To the United States Capital to overturn the will of
the people in a.
Speaker 7 (25:26):
Free and fair election, an election that he knew he lost.
Speaker 6 (25:35):
Americans died as a result of that attack.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
I think somebody may have just died while she's giving
a speech. Yeah, I'm not quite sure whether that's an eight.
I think that's that sounds more like a cop car
than does an ambulance man just has slightly different sirens
than that. It's not a fire truck, and there's a
distinctive sound that that's that's a cop car. So they're
they're headed somewhere, And based on the fact that the
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sound is not traveling away but toward, means they're probably
going down Constitution Avenue, Independence Avenue. They're somewhere pretty close
on the Ellipse, there's somewhere on the National Mall. They
could even be up on K Street somewhere, but they
are going east. It sounds to me, based on the
fact that this audio is probably facing her, that they're
(26:24):
going from west to east, which means they're going to
work Capitol Hill, which means they're probably going up to
you know, Capitol Hill northeast or southwest, you know, on
the Green Line, for example, which is a somewhat dangerous territory.
It's not I mean, it's it's it's gentrifying. It's where
the new Natz Stadium is, but it's still kind of
(26:45):
a rough area of town. And while she's telling us
about a threat to democracy that he is. That's going
on in the background.
Speaker 6 (26:54):
One hundred and forty law enforcement officers were injured because
of that at.
Speaker 7 (27:01):
And while Donald.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
Trump's maybe those cars are still going trying to find
those cops. Maybe they're going to look for the killer
of Ashley Babbitt. Maybe that's what they're.
Speaker 4 (27:12):
Doing that in the White House watching.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
Well, you know, that's kind of interesting because the White
House right now or last night was watching. Yeah, Joe
Biden was sitting up there watching. He was probably, you know,
I gotta say something because that could be me down there,
That could have been you know, Jill, that could have
been us down there doing that. They pushed me out.
(27:36):
I got to do something to take away from all
of her attention. What should I do? Well, you know
Trump Trump, Trump himself called everybody garbage, So why don't
you go and call everybody garbage?
Speaker 6 (27:47):
And the violence unfolded on television. He was told by
his staff that the mom wanted to kill his own
vice president, and Donald Trump responded with two words, So what.
Speaker 7 (28:08):
America.
Speaker 6 (28:08):
That's who Donald Trump is and that's what's asking you.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
I wonder who the victim is that the police are
going after?
Speaker 4 (28:16):
Nie Maybe I'm the only one noticing this morning.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
All the Harris ads I'm hearing on the radio today,
they all got a Puerto Rican accent. I haven't heard
any Harris ads this morning, so I don't know switch
gears the next hour. I want to go back to
Harris's speech, and I want to go back to this
(28:42):
whole idea that the newspapers are not endorsing candidates, or
at least a couple of the major newspapers are not,
because I think that says a lot about what's happening
to the media, and I think the media probably learned
a lesson from the Joe Rogan podcast with Donald Trump.
It's really fascinating. But before we do, I ran across
(29:04):
this story yesterday which is totally shifteen years here for
a month. Do you know how California suffers from brownouts
and blackouts all the time. Well, the Colorado Sun had
a story yesterday and they the language they used in
the story was just like orgasmic. They were so excited
(29:25):
because Tri State Generation, which is a private power company.
It's a municipally I shouldn't say them meansily owned, but
it's a private power company. They provide a lot of
electricity to it. It's a kind of like a real
electric co op. In fact that it may be a
real electric co op. But they're winning kudos and praise
(29:52):
from a bunch of greeny weenies, a bunch of environmentalists,
because they've announced a plan to aggressive go after renewable energy. Now,
if they were doing this on their own, I'd say, well,
stupid to be you, But have at it. They want
to expand their wind and energy and they want to
(30:13):
shut down their coal fired power plants. So how are
they going to do it? They got two point five
billion dollars. Yeah, you know where this is going in
taxpayer money, in loans and grants from the federal government
to retire their existing coal fired plants and to start
(30:36):
the acquisition of new what they call reliable renewable energy
sources wind and solar. You know that don't work when
there's no wind or there's no sun. And the story
struck me as why, and I would say, it's because
(30:58):
the keyese in the mouse trap is there, and the
keys and the mouse trap, the keys is the federal money,
and the mouse trap is convert to wind and solar.
And then there was this little comment Tri State claims
that this move to wind and energy is going to
(31:19):
reduce your electric rates by the year twenty thirty four. Now,
what'd you stop and think for a moment, why are
we paying for this? If Tri State Generation wants to,
you know, close down their coal fired power plants, a
reliable source of power and exchange those for unreliable sources
(31:42):
of power, then tell their ratepayers, tell their consumers, Tell
all the people in the in the in the Tri
State region that buy power from Tri State Generation. Hey,
we want to go to wind and solar. See how
that works out for them. So we're paying for them
(32:03):
to shut down the power plants, the coal fires, and
to start building wind and solar, and they're telling us that, hey,
your rates will go down by the year twenty thirty four.
Do you believe that for once? I don't believe that
for one second. And I'd like to know why are
we paying for it? Why why should federal tax dollars
(32:25):
go to for them to convert? And then my other
question would be this, if the federal tax dollars were
not there, if the Green New Deal money was not there,
then would they be doing this. My guess is they
probably wouldn't because don't we don't you and I want
at least I do. I want when I flip the
(32:48):
light switch on, when I push the garage door opener,
when when I open the refrigerator or I go out
to the freezer, I tar on. You know, give my
computer I expected to charge, I expected to be power
tri State generation. Use your own money and quit lying
(33:10):
to us about how it's going to be just electric rates.
But you're twenty thirty four. You want to bet whether
it really does or not. Yeah, I'll bet that it doesn't.
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