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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Good morning. Hey.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Did you see where Tim Waltz is pushing for the
elimination of the electoral college.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
Well, there we go, so.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
We have that, and we have I'm sure what's gonna
be then trying to kill the filibuster impact the Supreme Court.
Just him saying that on the campaign trail yesterday is
enough for a no vote. I wish this country understood this,
but they don't have a good day.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Everybody. Yes, Hello, this is Donald Trump from mister Cohne.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Thank you so much, joy Combe, nice to meet you.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Be a roy cone.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
You're brutal, guilty at choice.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
How do you always win? Rules?
Speaker 4 (00:56):
The first rule is attack, attack, Attack.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Is pulling in the city. Maybe maybe the country in
the world.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Will too. I admit nothing, deny everything.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
There's never been anything like this.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
If this magnetude dis quality, can oh cheese balls over here?
Speaker 1 (01:14):
What do you do if you want no? It looks
totally discussed balls well three, No.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
Matter what happens, you claim victory.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
I've never admit the feat.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
You have to be willing to do anything anyone to
win a big guess you gotta work on the.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
Attack attack.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
I admit nothing. You ever admit your three what if
you lost your fortune today, Well then maybe I'll run
for president. I don't know if I say, if you're indicted,
you're invited.
Speaker 5 (01:54):
The trailer from the Apprentice that is coming out in
theaters nature wide October eleventh, that's this Friday. I had
a chance to watch an advanced screening of this with
my good friend Christian Toto just last night.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
He joins us now.
Speaker 5 (02:07):
Hollywoodintoto dot com is where you can find his review
of this and many other films that we'll be discussing
during this segment included, and you can listen to his
Hollywood in Toto podcast on your favorite podcast platform. Find
him on x at Hollywood in Toto Christian, Welcome back.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Good to be back now.
Speaker 5 (02:26):
As you hear the trailer and you reconcile that with
what we watched last night, the portrayal of Donald Trump
by Sebastian Stan the portrayal of Roy Kohene, that's the
voice that listeners hear there is the guiding mentor of
Donald Trump, a man I knew next to nothing about,
and Jeremy Strong with a strong performance in my opinion,
(02:47):
in that regard of that character. But the character actors
aside Christian, take us through what we watched and what
your response was to it.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
Yeah, I mean, I think it's a really fascinating story.
You put aside politics of this this frash mogul, how
he you know, ran rough shot over in New York City,
great success and of course the failures too, and how
he burnished his brand this you know, Bragdoccio style, this
optimistic pro capitalism guy, and how he also had lots
(03:19):
of appetites lots of women. You know, we know the story,
but I think kind of getting behind under the skin
is fascinating, and the film does it just in bits
and pieces until it really turns into the hit piece
you expect, and you fear in a sense because you know, listen,
Hollywood hates Trump and they want to make sure he
doesn't you know, the president again, and so it's not
a surprise that, you know, I think the film has
(03:41):
some redeeming qualities for a while that I think just
gets squandered that the film seemingly finds his groove.
Speaker 5 (03:48):
And this is where I try to buifi kate it
in my viewing Experienced Christian, because I think the typical
person in our audience who supports and likes Donald Trump.
There are going to be moments in this movie where
you're very add and I think angry on behalf of
the former president. But in the beginning, I would say
about the first half, there was an interesting narrative in
character arc in which Donald Trump kind of learned the
(04:10):
ropes from this Roy Cone. And this figure is a
factual member of American history who was also had ties
to Senator McCarthy and Roger Stone, who's portrayed in this
film as well. But I tried to separate that from
what I thought were two really outstanding individual performances that
I just mentioned Sebastian stand with the look, the mannerisms.
(04:32):
I even made the comment about how he kind of
pursed his mouth and how he spoke, and in particular
in that sit down interview that's re enacted that we
heard in the trailer, I believe it was supposed to
be with a social lite about whether or not he
would run for president. I thought that was pitch perfect,
and then I was blown away, but truly when I
reflected upon it both last night and this morning, by
(04:53):
the portrayal of Roy Cone by Jeremy Strong, who just
immersed himself in this character. Can you take us through
what you thought of those two pertent trails specifically.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Yeah, I think his character has more depth, more nuanced,
because by most accounts I've read, it was not a
kind felt it was rather despicable. But the way he
maneuvered through the movie. You know, sometimes when an actor
is very charismatic, even when they're evil, even than when
they're wrong, even when they the villain, part of you
(05:22):
can't help but identify with them, or cure them on
or just somehow connect with them. You know, We've seen
that with Tony Soprano and Walter White. These are bad
people in a sense, but there's something magnetic about the performance,
something unique, and I think Strong has that. And I
think that the fact that conees arc captured here was
so tragic, was so colorful, it was so hympnotizing. So
(05:42):
I think they had that in their favor. But I
think the movie wanted to use the cone figure as
a pawn as a way to kind of say, hey,
Trump's a monster, this is how he became a monster,
and by doing that, they really did deprive some of
the humanity.
Speaker 5 (05:56):
You know.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
I saw a scene, Christine where it looked like you
would see something positive about Trump or something real or
raw or authentic, and it would almost like just dissolve
before your eyes. I joked to my review it almost
like a drinking game every time, every time you pivot
from a decent person to a monster, you know, take
a slug. It felt that way again and again and again.
And I just thought, you know, Trump is so larger
(06:20):
than life. If you really depicted him warts and all
and showed the humor and showed the deal making and
showed the fact that he was generous at times, and
showed the ego and the bruising persona, I think that
would be fascinating. And you can do it from a
negative point of view. You could said that these are
negative attributes. Let's get that's perfectly fine. Taking away as humanity,
it just made it a lesser experience.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
Couldn't agree more.
Speaker 5 (06:42):
Christian Toto, my guess, Hollywood intoto dot com was where
you can find this review and many others. I thought
this story had potential and maybe it will again at
some point they had. I thought the cinematic depiction down
of the seventies and eighties New York City, and it
was dark, and it was dreary and Donald Trump had
this idea. He wanted to bring Trump Tower to the
middle of New York City and rejuvenate and revitalize what
(07:06):
was a dead district which was dirty and dingy, and
Mayor Koch comes in and they kind of use him
as a clownish figure. There was a story to be told.
And what that story is, Christian is what I've said
on the show many times. What people forget and maybe
many people remember. Donald Trump helped revitalize the city in
much the same way that Rudy Giuliani did his mayor
except Donald Trump did it from a businessman's perspective.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
And you could tell that story as a cautionary tale, like, oh, yes,
he did have this vision. He did succeed, how wonderful.
But he became arrogant, he became all powerful, and maybe
that's the warning of this that he was unchecked. I mean,
that's an angle. You could agree, you could disagree, but
that's a compelling way to kind of frame this story.
(07:49):
But to me, later in the film, as a mild spoiler,
I think you've seen it in other reviews. I think
you'll still hear about it. There are scenes that show
him undergoing liposuction, and getting and declaring that he has
a rectile dysfunction or alluding to it, And I thought,
that really doesn't show anything of character building, doesn't really
(08:11):
kind of push the story forward. It was just in something.
It was just like a cheap shot. And I thought, oh,
you know, you're undermining your own cause I think it
hurts I think it arms the film's critics like myself.
But also it just that's not the way you tell
the story. There are so many facets and so many
fascinating things about Trump. To go there just felt cheap.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
It was cheap, It was gratuitous.
Speaker 5 (08:32):
It didn't drive the storyline, the narrative, like you say that,
the arc of the characters, any of that. And I
just think I agree with you, Christian, it fell flat
in a way where it had a chance to succeed.
That's The Apprentice, and it comes out in theaters this Friday,
October eleventh. Let's turn now to a favorite subject of
Christians in mind, and.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
That's Saturday Night Live.
Speaker 5 (08:54):
And they went there on this weekend's edition with Maya
Rudolph portraying Kamala Harris and Jim Gaffigan as Tim Walls.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
With this kind of disarming debate moment. Okay, he's out there,
he's doing this thing, whatever.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
That may be.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Come on, just relax.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
You know you haven't had a night off in three months.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
Do you want to watch something less stressful like The
Menandez Brothers show.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
I don't know, Dougie. I kind of wish I had
picked Josh right now. Oh, Josh Shapiro. No Josh, but
Tim will be fine.
Speaker 5 (09:31):
It's not like he's gonna say something crazy.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
I've become friends with school Shooters.
Speaker 5 (09:39):
She crushes the wine glass in her hand. She makes
a joke about Josh wine that I thought was very
well executed and done.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Christian. Are you surprised they went there at all with this?
Speaker 3 (09:49):
Well, a very surprised. A good sign perhaps of the
show maybe trying to reclaim its roots. But you know
that's what you should be doing. Those are low hanging
fruit done well. I mean, if you're a saphirical show
and you're looking at the political scene, and if if
Vance had said I'm trying to do School Shooters accidentally,
(10:13):
that's everywhere that's across the culture, and it should be.
It's it's a gas and so the fact they did
that is just it's been doing their duty. It can
be sick show. But we've you know, the show has
fallen so far and we expect so little from it.
We stand a gaate watching that moment. That should be
oh to be a home run, that should be what
(10:33):
they do every week, but they don't. So why do
to see if they keep this up. But even just
having kam La Harris, as you know, gulping wine, that
kind of plays into a negative stereotype about her, not
she's fun that maybe maybe she's a little bit tipsy,
And that explained some of the word solid proclamations. I'm
not accusing her of anything. That's just kind of in
the culture and the zeitgey some people have said that,
and it's a little riff you can do and kind
(10:54):
of a wing quink, nudge nudge that it's funny. So
you know, that's again on the table.
Speaker 5 (10:58):
And speaking of culture theegeist, we go back now for
Saturday Night Live fifty years to nineteen seventy five. Lauren
Michaels portrayed by Gabriel LaBelle and Rachel Sennett, who portrays
Rosie Schuster, one of the early writers for SNL, and
Louren Michael's wife at the time. This movie comes out
October eleventh, simply titled Saturday Night Hi, Free Commerce Show,
(11:21):
twenty seats, funny tickets left guys, free show, Say.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
So Big Night. Look, my name is Lauren Michaels. I'm
Crusher's Saturday Night, the whole night, Yeah, the whole night.
Speaker 4 (11:40):
Chevy Jay, skilled arader, Dan, I go, how do you
pronounce this?
Speaker 3 (11:47):
Roy?
Speaker 6 (11:50):
You know?
Speaker 4 (11:50):
I was thinking, why don't we punt? We should run
the dress arssel and claw back a win next Saturday.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
We can't. It's a lot show, just not right.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Doesn't matter that we're ready.
Speaker 5 (12:01):
It matters at eleven thirty, that's when we go on.
Speaker 6 (12:06):
On Chin to just give you advice. It's in everyone's
best interest mainly the worse.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Sorry, was that a threat around?
Speaker 3 (12:13):
You're don't locked the script? Your crew is in open rebellion.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
You you definitely.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
The writers on the seventeenth floor. Ti Day felt around
Big Bird's neck and hung him from my dressing room door.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
Oh something to fit into this ensembled? What is this?
Speaker 6 (12:34):
NBC makes more money playing rooms of the Tonight Show.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
NBC is lucky to have something as relevant as a show,
and they don't even want bad logicals make That's why
they're paying us all to be here.
Speaker 7 (12:43):
I mean more.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
Ninety minutes of live television.
Speaker 4 (12:45):
Biker who's twenty year old but never made anything.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
You ever stopped and wonder why they said yes, a.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
Counter culture show so in total unknown.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Was zero narrative and even lest.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
They want you to fail, we just have to make
it to air.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Am I still in the show? Jesus nice? Sorry tripped
over my penis Christian. We've had so many conversations about
this show.
Speaker 5 (13:26):
It spans my entire life, basically going back to nineteen
seventy five. It still survives all these years later, albeit
I think in a diminished form.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
What can we look forward to? Do you think of
this film?
Speaker 3 (13:37):
A lot of laughs, a lot of insights into the
creative mind, and a lot of Oh man, and the
show was really cool back in the day. Now I
get you can't be counterculture forever in the show's on
literally fifty seasons now, and to be as irreverent and
crazy and wacky as the beginning, it's just not possible.
But just the fact that the show is so formulaic,
(13:58):
so predictable, reasonably apparently is said but this is a
celebration of the creative spirit. It also happens back to
a time when aggressives and I all assume that the
original cast members were left of center. They loved free speech,
they loved comminated, they loved being able to tell jokes
their way, and they hated the scolds who were saying, oh,
(14:19):
you can't tell that joke, and that's too dirty, and
that's too naughty. You know, First of all, it was
eleven thirty at night on a Saturday, and we couldn't
t bow it or record it or watch it on YouTube,
so you know, it was a bit of a state
haveent of sorts for content. But yeah, how far the
culture has changed. I really enjoy this. It's one of
the probably one of the best movies of twenty twenty four,
and it's funny and cool and you're sweet Christian Toto.
Speaker 5 (14:43):
Hollywood Intoto dot com is where you can find them online,
and don't forget to subscribe to download and listen to
is Hollywood in Toto podcast Always great information reviews there
as well. Following up on the casting for this Christian
there's so many big.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
Names and there's only so much you can do.
Speaker 5 (15:01):
To replicate what they were fifty years ago, the names
that you've heard, Chevy Chase, Gilda Radner, dan Aykroyd of
course leading up to these minutes before the very first episode,
which is what this movie is focused on. As far
as the casting goes, what do you think was the
motive in who they cast and how do you think
that all worked out.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
I suspect the plan was to find people who were
not very familiar and have them pain point way, but
just to sound enough alike and look enough like where
it kind of carries you forward. I think it works perfectly.
Dylan O'Brien might be one of the only actress I recognized.
He plays dan Akrod and nails it. So I just
(15:43):
think it was a very smart approach. It wasn't like
a mimicry. It was kind of conveying essence of these
characters with people you just don't know that well, and
that kind of creates that suspension of disbelief that you
could think, oh that guy's John Blush.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
You get it.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
So I it was a great idea. I think it
worked perfectly, and it ain't easy. I mean, these are
really iconic figure sometimes, but I think the mostly Get
to Find John.
Speaker 5 (16:05):
You know the Saturday Night Lives that I remember first.
I was around the age of ten. My parents were
a little bit lenient and let me.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Watch such a show.
Speaker 5 (16:12):
I even watched one episode where Eddie Murphy portrayed mister
Robinson's neighborhood with my grandmother, my dad's mom, and she
was pretty open to comedy.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
She was going to let me experience that at a
very young age.
Speaker 5 (16:24):
And then we watched it transform throughout the eighties, Christian
with the rotating tasks and Dana Carvey, Mike Myers, Phil Hartman,
Jan Hooks, some really talented individuals that came through, and
then in the nineties with that Iam Sadler and David
Spade and Chris Farley. Where did it all go wrong?
Do you think for Saturday Night Live? Where did it turn?
(16:44):
Why did it turn? And are we beyond the point
of no return?
Speaker 1 (16:48):
Well?
Speaker 3 (16:48):
I think I had mentioned the Obama years were the blame,
and it's not President Obama's fault, it just the show
dialed back on the comedy I can actually that was
a little quicker back because I think it was about
Sarah Palin when Tina Fey portrayed Sarah Palen ONSNL. It
was a sensation in part because it was funny and
part because a was very good in the role. But
it also had an impact in the culture. And I
(17:09):
think that the people behind the scene that SNL said, Hey,
we aren't just telling jokes. We're actually impacting the conversation.
What we do and say, the jokes we share, they
could maybe sway from hearts and minds. We have to
act accordingly. We can't just tell jokes that we used
to tell jokes. We have to tailor them a certain way.
We have to hold back at a certain time. We
have to make sure that we're not hitting the left
(17:31):
too hard and maybe hitting the right harder. So I
think when that sentiment creeped in crept In, that's when
the show changed. Now, listen, Lorden michaels As in his
late seventies, maybe the early eighties. Now, it's really hard
to keep picking these comics superstars who did it for decades.
I think there's no one else quite like them. It's, oh,
you know, you got to fit it into finding all
these people, the diamonds and the rough. But I think
(17:51):
the later cast members in recent years, I just don't
see any breakout performers. I don't see any new superstars.
And you combine that with the real bio of the
show and the fact that it's let woke take over,
where you're just not go in for the funny. You're
going for different reasons. You're trying to make people think
a certain way as opposed to just laugh. And I
think that's where I went to Rye and I don't
(18:11):
think they could reclaim it. I think it's been gone
too far. They that they tried. I think a lot
of people.
Speaker 5 (18:16):
Have tuned out more with Christian Toto Hollywood Intoto dot com.
When we come back, Ryan Shuling filling in the situation
without Michael Brown.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
Draggin please please please New Geckos, thank you.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
He's changed everybody's life.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
Now everyone is watching.
Speaker 6 (18:47):
Hopefully Arthur Blacks to be some kind of mark.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
It is a monster.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Any exactly what he was doing. How time.
Speaker 7 (19:03):
Witnesses enter to the room's person.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
We're gonna call you walk Jo. Don't I speaking to you now?
Which gonna use here?
Speaker 6 (19:28):
I'd do anything for you.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
Anything. It's a little too much. I want to walk here.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
You can do anything you want.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
You're joker.
Speaker 5 (19:57):
That is Joker fully Ado, I believe, and it is
the sequel to the original starring Joaquin Phoenix. Robert de
Niro was in that first installment Joaquin Phoenix as Arthur
Fleck aka Joker, and this one features Lady Gaga as
Lee Quinzell later to be known as Harley Quinn. I
(20:17):
don't think I'm spoiling anything there. For those that are
familiar with the DC Comics universe, we bring back Christian
Toto for his assessment. Hollywood intoto dot com is where
you can find it and read all about it.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Christian, did this sequel need to be made?
Speaker 3 (20:32):
I think we can say that about a lot of sequels,
So it's not the death nail for any particular movie.
But then if you watch it, you think, oh no,
it really didn't need you remade. It's actually one of
the films where you watch it and you're so disappointing
you think less of the original film. Because I love
the twenty nineteen joke. I thought it was brilliant, and
people are very divided about that one is obviously a
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huge hit. This new one is a musical. I'm not
going to even go there because I don't think that's
the root of the problem. It seems like an odd
choice for sure, but you watch it and you think,
I don't know what they're trying to say. The first
film I had a message about alienation, about how society
often doesn't help people, that when you're false to crack,
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sometimes violence will break out. I mean, it had some
interesting themes in addition to the great performance by Joaquin Phoenix.
A new film, I just I don't know where to
come from. It's a courtroom drama without a real gravitas
or excitement. It's a love story that doesn't really have
any sort of depth. It's you know, you're watching two
very charismatic stars in Phoenix and Lady Gaga as Roley
(21:36):
Quinn with the DC comics Canton, and that's okay. The
first one didn't either. It's a different beast, But gosh,
I just don't know what they were going for because
it just left me bored, frustrated, and exasperated at times.
Speaker 5 (21:51):
Not a great review, and you could read more details
at Hollywood intoto dot com. I know you got time
is short for Christians, so I want to get here.
If we're disappointed and live and where it went, we're
more disappointed infinitely so Christian and I as former fans
of Howard Stern in his dissent. This is from just
over thirty years ago, the now deceased Sherman Hemsley portraying
(22:13):
Whoope Goldberg after the controversial blackface incident and a rose
that Ted Danson showed up in. Howard Stern portraying Ted Danson.
This was Howard Stern in nineteen ninety three.
Speaker 4 (22:26):
Whoopy Done wrote everything I'm going to say here tonight.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
So it's all right, Ain't that right? Your smelling? I
didn't write that? Where he is this smelling?
Speaker 4 (22:37):
I got some more jokes for your New York's Eve.
Part of that.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
You're not tired of this and don't.
Speaker 4 (22:41):
Be racially offended because Whoopy Done wrote him for me? Okay,
black hole, black hole?
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Who loved it?
Speaker 4 (22:48):
Tuna? What do I loves most about the Whoopies? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (22:54):
Ted?
Speaker 2 (22:55):
Great timing?
Speaker 4 (22:56):
Hey, Robin, what does you call a black rocket scientist?
Speaker 3 (22:59):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
Whoopy road It wrote it?
Speaker 6 (23:03):
Hey?
Speaker 1 (23:03):
Did you have to notice this?
Speaker 3 (23:04):
Nos?
Speaker 4 (23:05):
My mother mama dancing, She done work in black face too.
She must be very proud.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
Yeah, No, I know you really love you, Ted, You
the man.
Speaker 4 (23:15):
I'll tell you, you know you the man. What don't happen
in Sherman's career.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
It's really over the end.
Speaker 4 (23:24):
I want you to give us a kissous smelly cock
had I love it?
Speaker 3 (23:28):
Say something here?
Speaker 4 (23:30):
Mm hmm oh, you can say whatever you want.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
You smelling whoopy road Dad ted you didn't.
Speaker 4 (23:37):
Know I was going to say that Whoopy had no
chance to write it.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
I don't accept that.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
Kind of language.
Speaker 4 (23:41):
You can call her whatever you want, but you don't
talk to me that way or I'll leave. Well, don't
let the door hit you on your big black ass,
Mama on the way out of here. Now where was I?
Speaker 3 (23:50):
Oh? Yes?
Speaker 4 (23:51):
Now, whoop it? You is a filthy now.
Speaker 5 (23:55):
Kamal Harris is going to appear with Howard Stern tomorrow
Christian And my question is how is this accept and
how is Howard Stern able to avoid being canceled?
Speaker 3 (24:04):
Well, Howard Stern took a severe lurch to the left
in the last five ten years, and that's how he
is culturally protected. It's similar to Jimmy Kimmel, who did
black face repeatedly in his past and had a misogynist
show called The Man Show. And again he is protected
because he picked the right political positioning and he's been
(24:25):
a warrior for the left. And Howard gets a similar
pass what you played I was. I mean, I grew
up in Howard Stern. I probably listened to everything you
just played and it was so shocking given the twenty
twenty four lens that we're in right now. And let
me tell you as a fan, that was the tip
of the outrageous Iceberg. But again, that's where Howard Stern
(24:46):
has evolved, devolved, language changes, culture changes. You couldn't say
almost any of that today. But he's going to throw
lob softballs at Kamala Harrison. That's why he's granted some
time with her.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
He's atoned for his sins.
Speaker 5 (25:03):
In other words, of this past Howard Stern that no
longer exists, but it's out there and you just heard it,
n words and all. You can follow everything Hollywood at
hollywoodintoto dot com and follow him on x at Hollywood
in Toto.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
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Speaker 5 (25:18):
To his podcast, Hollywood in Toto Christian Toto always thankful
for your time, Oh my pleasure, So Christian Toto Hollywood
Intoto dot com. And it made me wonder because I
was having this conversation with Dan Kaplis yesterday. You know
Howard Stern sits down. He genu flex for Kamala Harris
much in the same way that he did for Joe Biden.
But in which way was it more egregious that Stern
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would be chosen out of everyone else that's out there
for the Kamala Harris and her campaign. The misogyny that
he's shown with women over the years. And I'm just
going to call balls and strikes here. Like Christian I
admired Howard Stern as the king of all media. Is
a guy who took chance, as a guy that broke barriers,
a guy that didn't the rules, a guy that was
anti establishment. He is none of those things anyway. He
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plays by the rules. He is the establishment. He advocates
for you to get the shot for COVID. He is
completely afraid of the virus. He won't leave his home.
This is notorious now since COVID hit. He has been
broken by that virus. And he is not a guy
anymore that'll push back on powerful figures that are on
the left.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
He used to do that to everybody.
Speaker 5 (26:26):
He also used to have Donald Trump as a regular
guest and would get some of his best ratings when
The Orange Man was on his show, but he had
strippers in the studio. Go back and watch the movie
Private Parts from nineteen ninety seven, based on a true story.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
He's in it, he wrote it.
Speaker 5 (26:45):
And all kinds of language that was disparaging toward women,
toward those that are mentally challenged, the whack pack. There's
another one, this sketch with Ted Danson dropping the N
word left and right, dropping the sword and not the
one you're thinking about, but the environment that's used as
a double entendre is a slam on black people. So
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was it more egregious for Kamala Harris to sit down
with Howard Stern because of his insensitivity to Black Americans
that you just heard, or towards women in general?
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Or is it both. He's just one walking.
Speaker 5 (27:21):
Toxic cocktail that's trying to undo his entire past, all
of which is on audio archives everywhere. But he was
willing to bend the knee to the woke mob, to
give in, to surrender all of his principles, whatever he
stood for, if he stood for anything. He is weak,
He has emaciated, He has denigrated himself.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
He's embarrassed himself.
Speaker 5 (27:46):
He doesn't stand on any principle, and he's the one guy,
Howard Stern that could have stuck with what he was doing. Said,
you know what, I'm Howard ef and Stern. I'm going
to do whatever the f I want and that I
would have had a lot more respect for than whatever
this is that he's turned into a break. We're back
to wrap it all up the situation without Michael Brown,
your guest host right here, Ryan Sholing.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
I know not everything's all right, I tell you here
go Ryan and Dragon.
Speaker 6 (28:16):
As the former and current producer of the Situation with
Michael Brown, do you guys get benefits that cover your
counseling having to deal with Michael D.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
Brown.
Speaker 6 (28:30):
Maybe do some group counseling for the PTSD and hostile
work environment. Yeah, you both deserve it.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
Well.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
I think we should have meetings and that would be Angie,
you me, Jesse. We all should get too hot once
a week.
Speaker 5 (28:46):
That's quite a gang right there that you just described there,
because really the only people that can relate to what
we each went through are each other. I mean, maybe
Tamra I would love to hear some stories from her
about and from back in the day, and maybe from
just yesterday, maybe from Hawaii, maybe from Taos. But how
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would you sum up the experienced dragon of working with for.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
Kneeling toward the king Michael Brown?
Speaker 4 (29:17):
You know, there are nightmares and then there are night terrors.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
Oh yeah, that's true. This is above that. It's above that. Okay, yeah,
so yeah. Michael Brown is a unique individual.
Speaker 5 (29:31):
He brings a very specialized perspective on the government, having
been in it and now being outside of it and
having been spurned by it. And I feel he was
extremely unfairly treated in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina, which
is topical today with Milton bearing down on the Florida
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Gulf Coast. And again I would encourage you to read
his book on the matter. He finally kind of put
it all in the writing. Have you read that, by
the way, I know you.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
He hasn't given me a copy. He wants me to
buy one. Oh no, come on, don't have to do that.
It's on Amazon. He's not a doctor.
Speaker 5 (30:10):
Deadly indifference, the perfect hype in a parentheses political storm,
Hurricane Katrina, the Bush, White House, and beyond.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
There's a lot of beyond in the book.
Speaker 5 (30:24):
But he tells his diet side of the story, and
I believe it's worth reading, especially for you listeners out there.
I'm really gonna look inside of Michael Brown's head. I
know that sounds scary, and it can be be very scary.
And Dragon just shuddered, speaking of I know when Michael's gone.
Guess what, it's not Michael. All right, you got a
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substitute teacher, you got a backup bartender who's not going
to make the drinks the same way that he does.
You're gonna have to deal with you at Jimmy Sangenberger
for two days, You've got me for three.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
I know. John Caldera is another alternative. Christa Kaefer's an effort.
Speaker 5 (31:00):
We got our for that one, mostly because she tried
to remove Donald Trump from the ballot.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
What the hell? Yeah? How about no? Never again?
Speaker 5 (31:10):
So you're stuck with me, all right, Just grin and
Barrett make the best of it. I do what I can.
I'm not Michael. I'm not going to try to be Michael.
I can't tell Michael Brown's stories from his time in FEMA,
or with his time with NSSA, or how much he
hates Michael chert Off and why those are great stories,
by the way.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
Or his conversations with W.
Speaker 5 (31:32):
You know, I can impersonate W and sometimes I've had
that conversation and it's been pretty funny and spectacular where
I played W and Brown's just himself.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
You can do both. You can play Brown and W. Yeah.
What was it you said about when I in person
sounds like beetlejuice.
Speaker 5 (31:48):
Yeah, I'll just a bass how in the front row
the front portry life.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
You come to me for advice, I'll give it to you.
Let's go down tass undisclosed location.
Speaker 5 (32:01):
We will be doing taxpayer relief shots on Friday. That
much I can promise you. But this Texter is mad
Mike or Michael? Are you kidding me? With everything going
on in the world, twenty seven days away from the election,
this is what we are wasting our time on. Bring
Michael back? What a snooze fest? My question, did you listen?
Did you listen to the show at the entire eight
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o'clock hour? I had John Fabricatory, full hour conversation with him,
very topical, very local, the Aurora TRENDI Aragua gang situation,
his take on that candidate for Congress, many living in
the sixth Congressional District, Donald Trump coming to Aurora on Friday?
Speaker 1 (32:39):
What are you talking about now?
Speaker 5 (32:40):
If you caught the Christian Toto stuff, did you listen
to that segment. There's a film coming out about Donald Trump.
The Apprentice's designed to kind of take pot shots at him.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
We talked about that.
Speaker 5 (32:52):
You know, the pop culture is something that we follow
as kind of a mirror as to what's happening in
society and why has it changed. That's an important conversation
to have. What are you watching out there? Why has
Saturday Night Live become a shell of its former self?
Why has Howard Stern become a shell of its former self?
There are reasons for that, and Christian was right and
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I agree with him. Barack Obama changed and broke everything
because everybody felt like they couldn't take on Barack Obama.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
He was the exalted one.
Speaker 5 (33:22):
He was from on high, he was Messianic, and so
Saturday Night Live checked out. They took a break, and
Fred Armison occasionally portrayed him, but was never in a
very negative light, not the way that they covered George W.
Bush or even Bill Clinton. SNL was relentless against Bill
Clinton with Phil Hartman portraying him, or even Darryl Hammond
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after Phil Hartman passed away. But why are we experiencing
things in our culture that we are right now in
which the media is just all in on denigrating Trump
by any means necessary and carrying the water without even
hiding anymore for Joe Biden, for Kamala Harris, the entire left.
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It is far worse now in the Year of Our
Lord twenty twenty four than it was even twenty years
ago in terms of the fairness or lack thereof in
the comparison of journalism between then and now. We are
so much worse off now. That's why shows like this
one are important, and Michael provides his perspective on those.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
He'll be back on Monday.
Speaker 5 (34:26):
Take a break, all right, Just breathe, dragon, and I
are going to take you through the rest of the week.
I promise we're going to have the best time that
we can. Super duper times. Hold on in Florida for
Hurricane Milton. We're sending our thoughts and prayers to everyone
in the path of that storm.