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Speaker 3 (01:07):
Dragon, Good morning and welcome. I'm John Kelderic give me
a call. Three oh three seven one three eight two
five five. No, I don't know where Michael is. No
one knows where Michael is. I asked his wife, where's Michael,
and she said, who cares? Oh, she didn't do that.
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So just let me throw this one out again because
it's so important. A grandmother of twelve fifty nine year
old lady broke the world's push up record.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Yes, she did.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
One thousand, five hundred seventy five push ups in one hour.
We we can't let this stand, gentlemen. Fifteen hundred push ups,
fifteen fifteen hundred push ups. No, just just no upper
(02:20):
body strength. It's our thing, it is our thing. They
take this from us. All we have left is parallel parking, peeing,
standing up.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
And spatial acuity. No, that's not gonna fit in the tupperware.
That that's it. That's what we got.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
They they've already got better pain tolerance than us. We
have to maintain the advantage on upper body strength. We
realize that they have the same upper body strength. They're
they're gonna take over. They're gonna they're gonna want to vote.
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They're gonna want to drive. Nothing good happens from this.
How many push ups can you do?
Speaker 1 (03:06):
How many?
Speaker 3 (03:07):
How many pull ups can you do? Remember as a kid,
I could do yeah, I could. I could do enough
pull ups to to fake myself out of gym class.
And I was smart enough to know. You know, when
they first test you at the beginning of of of
the semester at gym class, you know how many situps
you can do?
Speaker 1 (03:26):
You struggle do I could do two?
Speaker 3 (03:31):
And then you know a few months later, when you
do four, you're like, well, see what what incredible, incredible
advancement you're making? Oh, thanks coach, Thanks coach. Whereas you know,
a woman would probably actually do as many sit ups
as you could do the first time around, and then
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get this, get this, see if she can honestly improve.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
That number.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Are these type of people we want in society, people
who want to improve their health, who do records honestly?
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Is that the example you want for your children? There?
There you have it? Three or three seven, one, three, eight,
two five five. She also she also.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Has the record for doing the longest abdominal plank just
holding yourself in the flat push up position. Four hours,
thirty minutes, eleven seconds, which is about four hours, thirty
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minutes and seven seconds longer than what I can do. Remember,
there are are two ways to succeed, one improving yourself
or two dragging the other person down so that by
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comparison you look better. And we all know which one's
the right one, All right? Three or three seven to
one to three, eight, two, five five. I don't know
if you saw this at the end of last week.
It was just spectacular where Mayor Mike Johnson puts out
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this this quote to Denver Right. Denverright is one of
the oh liberal news organizations. I think NPR now owns it,
and he was talking about how when when Trump is
going to try to going to try to take away
all the illegals, how we in Denver are going to
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stand up and stop them. Here's the quote he gave
more than having DPD Denver Police Department stationed at the
county line to keep them out, them being Donald Trump's
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awful uniform people to deport people, instead of having the cops.
More than just having the cops stationed at the county
line to keep them out, you would have fifty thousand
Denver Rights there This is what Mayor Johnson told Denveright
News Service. It's like Tenneman's Square moment with the rose
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and the gun. Right, you'd have one of those Highland
moms who came out for the migrants, and you do
not want to mess with them. That's right, because if
the army comes, it's those Highlands moms who will be
able to take them on. Why because they can do
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fifteen hundred pushups, that's why, and no one in our
army can anymore. But back to this, so he says this,
this ridiculous thing. I've made a living saying stupid things,
so I get it. Sometimes the words is out of
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your mouth and you're like, all right, that was not
the right way to put it. That's why you have
somebody on staff who says what the Mayor meant to
say was the people of Colorado do not support Donald
Trump's plans for deportation.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
But I don't know if that's true.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
More than us having police stationed at the county line
to keep them out.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
So think about this for a second. Our peace, love
and happiness.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Mayor loves illegal immigrants so much he's going to set
the cops out to do armed battle with soldiers federal
employees to stop deportations. Really, and you wonder why you
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lost the tax increase for more money for homes, for
shelter for the how did they say it, those currently
experiencing unhousing ness. All right, so you've got migrants here,
nine million streamed across the border when Biden did nothing
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to secure the border, and so they come to towns
like Denver, and now it's time to get rid of them.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
But no, we're going to spend not only are resources.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
Housing them, clothing them, feeding them, medical services, education, But
now we're going to put our police out to do
armed battle with the Feds, and we're gonna have fifty
thousand citizens out there like Tenemen Square so that they
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can get massacred in order to protect them.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
That's the image are inarticulate mayor put out? All right,
I get it.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
He screwed up. He walked it back. He walked it back.
Would I have taken it back if I could, Yes,
I probably wouldn't have used that image. The mayor says,
that's an image I hope we can avoid. What I
was trying to say, is is this an outcome I
hope we can avoid in this country. I think none
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of us want that, which was a squishy way of saying.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
What exactly?
Speaker 3 (09:58):
Yes, of course none of us want our conflict on
our city streets while liberal mayors protect protect illegal immigrants
over tax paying citizens. Yeah, I get that, But is
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that really what you want? Do you really want to
use Denver's police to battle the Feds if they actually
come to enforce immigration law?
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Just a just a quick question, is that what you want? Three?
Speaker 3 (10:40):
Or three? Seven one, three eight two five five hm
Reading from nine News, Johnson believes that Denver residents will
participate in civil disobedience if Trump moves forward with his
campaign promises to deport illegal immigrants. In cases where Johnson
believes the future commander in chief is wrong or performing
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something that is illegal, the mayor says he's willing to
go to jail to stand up against it. He said,
I would go to jail if I believe that our
residents are having their rights violated. I think things are
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happening that are illegal or a moral or un American
in our city, I would certainly protest it, and I
would expect other residents to do the same. Really, really,
your city is going broke, Mayor, because you're spending hundreds
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of millions of dollars housing people who are here illegally.
And these are not bad people, I would say overwhelmingly,
they're good. They're good people, many of whom would probably
make fine, fine additions to our country. But here's the problem.
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There's a problem with good intentions. How many would you
let into the country just to walk over the border.
There's what seven eight billion people on the planet. I
would think half of them would love to live here
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instead of where they are living. Let me say it again,
I think I think billions of people would love to
come to America to live in the most prosperous nation
man has ever known, where even the poor are rich
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by historic and worldwide standards. So of course they want
to come. How many do you want here? You cannot
have them all come. It doesn't work.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Now.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
There was time when immigrants came, but there was no
government safety net. There was nobody here to help them.
Sorry about that, folks. There was nobody here to help them.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
And with nobody there to help them, they had to work.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
They had to find family, they had to find their
own community. So they'd come over on the boat and
they'd go find their ethnic group in New York City,
and they would work because there was no handout. There
was no housing, there was no food, there was no shelter,
there was no education. You had to pull your weight.
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So it's not really the state of immigration that people
are set with. It's the welfare state that people are
upset with. So either Mayor Johnson, we keep the people out,
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or you stop giving them free stuff. Nothing else is
going to work.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Now.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
Personally, I would prefer I would prefer the don't give
them free stuff. Yeah, I'm pretty liberal when it comes
to immigration if it's done legally. I think we need
more good people. I think we need more hardworking people.
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I think we need more people to do the jobs
that a lot of Americans don't want to do. But
let me see if I understand the mayor's policy. Here,
we welcome people with open arms. We take the tax
money stolen from hard working people transferred to the people
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who've come here illegally, and then when the federal government
finally gets around to enforcing the law and putting them
back to their country of origin, we're going to spend
more money and our own precious policeman's blood protecting their
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stay here.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
His quote, he's his quote.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
More than us having police stationed at the county line
to keep them out, you would have fifty thousand Denver
rights there. It's like Tenements Square moment with a rose
and the gun. Right, you'd have every one of those
Highland moms who came out for the migrants, and you
don't want to mess with them, he says, pandering to women.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Do you agree with this?
Speaker 3 (16:03):
How would you feel if Denver's mayor took the cops
who are already not enforcing homeless laws and vagrant laws
and car theft laws and instead took them put them
on the border to try to do arm battle with
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federal agents. Is that what you're calling for? And by
the way, the Tenements Square with roses and the gun?
What Tenements Square moment were you watching, Mayor Johnston? The
Tenement Square moment that I watched, maybe because I'm older
than you, was a massacre. There was a man standing
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in front of a row of tanks, a very iconic
moment caught on film. But you're getting that confused with
some sort of college protest in the sixties over Vietnam,
where protesters put flowers into the barrels of rifles that
the National Guard was pointing at them. I'm pretty sure
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there were no roses going into the barrels of those
tanks on Tenements Square. By the way, Teneman Square is
probably pretty good, pretty good description. So you want fifty
thousand Denver rights to be massacred at city Park as
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they stand up for their desire to continue to pay
to house and feed illegals?
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Is that what I get? How would you feel about that?
I'm just really curious. How do you take that quote?
Speaker 3 (17:52):
Do you think it's the right use of police resources
to put station them on the county line to keep
federal agents out of Denver who are here to arrest
and deport illegals? Three or three seven one three eight
two five five seven one three?
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Talk?
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Is that?
Speaker 1 (18:12):
Is that what you what you want? Now? I don't.
I don't think so. How about this one, mister Caldera.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
Didn't hear the mayor of Denver commit insert inciting insurrection
when he stated the city of Denver would physically block
federal government from enforcing the letter of the law.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
Hmm, true?
Speaker 3 (18:38):
John, the mayor said he's willing to stand up and
go to jail for the constitution to protect free speech
or Second Amendment rights. He also lacks much self awareness
that he doesn't realize that him and his party are
guilty of everything he vowed to stand up against.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Thank you, mister Galton.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
That one. Hmmm, John, and I keep hearing news stories
that Aurora is going to impound your car if the
tags are expired. You can't provide your license a proof
of insurance. They're using civil forfeiture to accomplish this. Just
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curious how they can take the vehicle so quickly.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
That's a good question. We'll have to look into that one,
all right. The mayor, the mayor's going to use.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
Force to protect the people who are here illegally. Does
that just sound crazy? And when Trump talks about force,
the media goes ballistic.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
They lose it.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Notice that they.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
Didn't lose it on this one. When the mayor misspoke,
and he did misspeak. That's that's cutting a little slack
on that. But it does show where he's at and
what his priority is illegals over citizens.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
That's Denver. That's a sanctuary city.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
Back after this.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
Thirty three minutes after good morning, I'm John Kelder and
Michael Brown.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Give me a call. Three three seven one, three eight
two five five. Don't be scared. Just pick up your phone,
you dial those numbers and then we talk.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
I know, I know, crazy, Just give it a whirl.
Three O three seven one three eight two five five.
Mayor Johnson misspeaks. All right, let's just be really clear.
He definitely misspoke on this one. He he said, if
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if Trump comes to to port the illegal migrants in Denver,
he's gonna have to get through the police at the
at the county line, and he's gonna have to deal
with fifty thousand, fifty thousand Denver rights protesting a lah
Tianeman's Square. For those of you too young to remember
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or too old to remember, that was a massacre. The
people stood up to the government and got killed. Not
what you're not what I think you signed your citizens
up for. How do you feel about the mayor using
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your police tax dollars to fight federal agents so that
that the migrants can stay here and continue to be
an expense on us. YEP, this is the problem when
they came in the first time, When they come in,
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that's that's the problem.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
What what are we supposed to do?
Speaker 3 (22:16):
The question I want to ask these well meeting beautiful
people who want to help those people coming into the country.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
Is simple. The question is how many, exactly how many
would you allow in? Is there any point that you
would say no, that's too many.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
At what point would you say, yeah, you can come here,
but we're not paying for your food, shelter, medical, anything.
And if you're living on the street, we will arrest
you and send you back. So if you're going to
come here, you better have a job and a place
to stay.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
That would be that would be reasonable.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
But the mayor is saying that that it would be
okay to use police violence to keep this system, this
system of.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
Of welfare for lawbreakers.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
How do you explain, how do you explain to the
people who've come in here legally waited that, Oh no,
these people get all this free stuff. They just walked
across the border. Three h three seven one three eight
two five five seven one three talk. Let's see there's
a text. So he's going to use force to protect
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the illegal aliens, but not to protect the tax payer
voting systems.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
Oh, I love that. I love that.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
This is when John the delicious Irony is Suddenly the
leftists are afraid of big government overreach.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
Oh, that is so true. So so the left.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
Doesn't want the federal government to come in here and
enforce federal law. Now, they don't want federal interference with
what goes on. What I love about the so called resistance,
And you see.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
This from.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
Our governor, who, along with Illinois Governor Pritzker, have made
this new organization to protect Democracy under the Trump Rain. Well,
the whole protecting democracy under the Trump Rain is a
pr move. I've gone to the website of this new organization.
There's no there there, but it's a couple very, very
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wealthy governors who are personally multimillionaires in Pritzker's case, billionaires, and.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
They're going to.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
Exercise their Tenth Amendment rights to protect from the Trump,
the Trump authoritarianism. All of a sudden, progressives have found
the Tenth Amendment the state's rights amendment. They say, no, no, no,
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forget Washington, Washington bad. Local state government's good.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
That's what we want.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
We want, we want the state to resist the feds.
So now they're afraid of big government overreach. It's really
it's really pretty delicious. Let's grab a phone call here,
let's talk to Vince. Good morning, Vince. You're with John Caldera.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
Good morning John. Look, Mike Johnston didn't misspeak. And I
love that term because he was very careful to use
the word Denveright. This is the same man who called
illegal aliens in a sanctuary city his newcomers, So he's
very careful with his words, and he's counting on those
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newcomers to get him to fifty thousand. He's hoping for
the Highlands mommies, and that's an interesting term as well,
because they have a Facebook page that daily decries their
potential loss of nannies, gardeners, and landscapers. But in any event,
he's counting on a few actual citizens to come to
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the rally or the defense of the city at the
county line. But really what he's doing is recruiting rioters,
and he's recruiting the very people that real citizens are
concerned about committing violence.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
It's actually quite.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
Ironic that he's asking them to behave in the way
that we expect them too in defense of their new city.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
That's an interesting that's an interesting thought, and you've got
a great point.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
So the mayor is expecting fifty thousand Highland moms to
come out and support his vision of a sanctuary city. One,
he's high, that's not going to happen. Two and two
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is he if he was Trump, if he was a
Republican and said this, every media outlet would be jumping
on him because he would be calling for violence. This
is the violence that Trump promised. This is the danger
of the insurrection. He is calling for fifty thousand Denver
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rights to stand up and do battle with federal forces.
But the media isn't calling him an insurrectionist. They're not
saying he's a threat to democracy. He's it's not a
threat to the rule of law. And by the way,
the rule of law says these people cannot be here.
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That's the rule of law. But the double standard in
the media is, well, that's the reason why Trump won.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
This.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
If you do the one to eighty test, if you
switch things around and it was Trump who said something
like this, they would only fan the flames of what
a violent insurrectionist authoritarian he is that he wants. He's
calling on his followers to engage in violent insurrection. That's
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what that's what the governor, that's what the mayor's doing here.
But it's not being called that.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
Well, you can tell the reaction of the media is
consistent with, you know, slinking away. Let's shy away from
the Denver mayor. Even they know it's absurd and they've
left it just sit there, and if you react to it,
they can now say, look at the extreme right wing
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reacting to the Denver mayor. Rather than cover what the
mayor said and how absurd it is, well, let's.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
Let's get care.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
I mean, nine News sat down with the mayor and
the mayor walked back. He didn't retract it, he walked
it back. I should have said it differently, all right. Fine,
And as a guy, as a guy who's been is
living shooting his mouth off, I understand sometimes stuff falls
out of your head and you regret it, get it,
and I get it.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
You know.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
I know Mike Johnson, he's personally a wonderful guy, but
he's just so very wrong on this and this slip
of the tongue really shows it.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
It's kind of like when Obama
To night, Michael Brown joins me. Here's a former director
at talk show host Michael Brown.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Brownie, no Brownie, You're doing a heck of a job.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
Just Situation with Michael Brown.
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You're a Politigo Express on six thirty k how Denver's talkstation.
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What he's worth.
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And now a talk back, then let's welcome our guest commentator.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Dragon, Good morning and welcome. I'm John Kelderic give me
a call. Three oh three seven one three eight two
five five. No, I don't know where Michael is. No
one knows where Michael is. I asked his wife, where's Michael,
and she said, who cares? Oh, she didn't do that.
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So just let me throw this one out again because
it's so important. A grandmother of twelve fifty nine year
old lady broke the world's push up record.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Yes, she did.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
One thousand, five hundred seventy five push ups in one hour.
We we can't let this stand, gentlemen. Fifteen hundred push ups,
fifteen fifteen hundred push ups. No, just just no upper
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body strength. It's our thing, it is our thing. They
take this from us. All we have left is parallel parking, peeing,
standing up.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
And spatial acuity. No, that's not gonna fit in the tupperware.
That that's it. That's what we got.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
They they've already got better pain tolerance than us. We
have to maintain the advantage on upper body strength. We
realize that they have the same upper body strength. They're
they're gonna take over. They're gonna they're gonna want to vote.
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They're gonna want to drive. Nothing good happens from this.
How many push ups can you do?
Speaker 1 (03:06):
How many?
Speaker 3 (03:07):
How many pull ups can you do? Remember as a kid,
I could do yeah, I could. I could do enough
pull ups to to fake myself out of gym class.
And I was smart enough to know. You know, when
they first test you at the beginning of of of
the semester at gym class, you know how many situps
you can do?
Speaker 1 (03:26):
You struggle do I could do two?
Speaker 3 (03:31):
And then you know a few months later, when you
do four, you're like, well, see what what incredible, incredible
advancement you're making? Oh, thanks coach, Thanks coach. Whereas you know,
a woman would probably actually do as many sit ups
as you could do the first time around, and then
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get this, get this, see if she can honestly improve.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
That number.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Are these type of people we want in society, people
who want to improve their health, who do records honestly?
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Is that the example you want for your children? There?
There you have it? Three or three seven, one, three, eight,
two five five. She also she also.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Has the record for doing the longest abdominal plank just
holding yourself in the flat push up position. Four hours,
thirty minutes, eleven seconds, which is about four hours, thirty
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minutes and seven seconds longer than what I can do. Remember,
there are are two ways to succeed, one improving yourself
or two dragging the other person down so that by
(05:12):
comparison you look better. And we all know which one's
the right one, All right? Three or three seven to
one to three, eight, two, five five. I don't know
if you saw this at the end of last week.
It was just spectacular where Mayor Mike Johnson puts out
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this this quote to Denver Right. Denverright is one of
the oh liberal news organizations. I think NPR now owns it,
and he was talking about how when when Trump is
going to try to going to try to take away
all the illegals, how we in Denver are going to
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stand up and stop them. Here's the quote he gave
more than having DPD Denver Police Department stationed at the
county line to keep them out, them being Donald Trump's
(06:17):
awful uniform people to deport people, instead of having the cops.
More than just having the cops stationed at the county
line to keep them out, you would have fifty thousand
Denver Rights there This is what Mayor Johnson told Denveright
News Service. It's like Tenneman's Square moment with the rose
(06:39):
and the gun. Right, you'd have one of those Highland
moms who came out for the migrants, and you do
not want to mess with them. That's right, because if
the army comes, it's those Highlands moms who will be
able to take them on. Why because they can do
(07:02):
fifteen hundred pushups, that's why, and no one in our
army can anymore. But back to this, so he says this,
this ridiculous thing. I've made a living saying stupid things,
so I get it. Sometimes the words is out of
(07:23):
your mouth and you're like, all right, that was not
the right way to put it. That's why you have
somebody on staff who says what the Mayor meant to
say was the people of Colorado do not support Donald
Trump's plans for deportation.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
But I don't know if that's true.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
More than us having police stationed at the county line
to keep them out.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
So think about this for a second. Our peace, love
and happiness.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Mayor loves illegal immigrants so much he's going to set
the cops out to do armed battle with soldiers federal
employees to stop deportations. Really, and you wonder why you
(08:21):
lost the tax increase for more money for homes, for
shelter for the how did they say it, those currently
experiencing unhousing ness. All right, so you've got migrants here,
nine million streamed across the border when Biden did nothing
(08:46):
to secure the border, and so they come to towns
like Denver, and now it's time to get rid of them.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
But no, we're going to spend not only are resources.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
Housing them, clothing them, feeding them, medical services, education, But
now we're going to put our police out to do
armed battle with the Feds, and we're gonna have fifty
thousand citizens out there like Tenemen Square so that they
(09:18):
can get massacred in order to protect them.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
That's the image are inarticulate mayor put out? All right,
I get it.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
He screwed up. He walked it back. He walked it back.
Would I have taken it back if I could, Yes,
I probably wouldn't have used that image. The mayor says,
that's an image I hope we can avoid. What I
was trying to say, is is this an outcome I
hope we can avoid in this country. I think none
(09:51):
of us want that, which was a squishy way of saying.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
What exactly?
Speaker 3 (09:58):
Yes, of course none of us want our conflict on
our city streets while liberal mayors protect protect illegal immigrants
over tax paying citizens. Yeah, I get that, But is
(10:18):
that really what you want? Do you really want to
use Denver's police to battle the Feds if they actually
come to enforce immigration law?
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Just a just a quick question, is that what you want? Three?
Speaker 3 (10:40):
Or three? Seven one, three eight two five five hm
Reading from nine News, Johnson believes that Denver residents will
participate in civil disobedience if Trump moves forward with his
campaign promises to deport illegal immigrants. In cases where Johnson
believes the future commander in chief is wrong or performing
(11:04):
something that is illegal, the mayor says he's willing to
go to jail to stand up against it. He said,
I would go to jail if I believe that our
residents are having their rights violated. I think things are
(11:25):
happening that are illegal or a moral or un American
in our city, I would certainly protest it, and I
would expect other residents to do the same. Really, really,
your city is going broke, Mayor, because you're spending hundreds
(11:47):
of millions of dollars housing people who are here illegally.
And these are not bad people, I would say overwhelmingly,
they're good. They're good people, many of whom would probably
make fine, fine additions to our country. But here's the problem.
(12:07):
There's a problem with good intentions. How many would you
let into the country just to walk over the border.
There's what seven eight billion people on the planet. I
would think half of them would love to live here
(12:27):
instead of where they are living. Let me say it again,
I think I think billions of people would love to
come to America to live in the most prosperous nation
man has ever known, where even the poor are rich
(12:51):
by historic and worldwide standards. So of course they want
to come. How many do you want here? You cannot
have them all come. It doesn't work.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Now.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
There was time when immigrants came, but there was no
government safety net. There was nobody here to help them.
Sorry about that, folks. There was nobody here to help them.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
And with nobody there to help them, they had to work.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
They had to find family, they had to find their
own community. So they'd come over on the boat and
they'd go find their ethnic group in New York City,
and they would work because there was no handout. There
was no housing, there was no food, there was no shelter,
there was no education. You had to pull your weight.
(13:55):
So it's not really the state of immigration that people
are set with. It's the welfare state that people are
upset with. So either Mayor Johnson, we keep the people out,
(14:16):
or you stop giving them free stuff. Nothing else is
going to work.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Now.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
Personally, I would prefer I would prefer the don't give
them free stuff. Yeah, I'm pretty liberal when it comes
to immigration if it's done legally. I think we need
more good people. I think we need more hardworking people.
(14:44):
I think we need more people to do the jobs
that a lot of Americans don't want to do. But
let me see if I understand the mayor's policy. Here,
we welcome people with open arms. We take the tax
money stolen from hard working people transferred to the people
(15:05):
who've come here illegally, and then when the federal government
finally gets around to enforcing the law and putting them
back to their country of origin, we're going to spend
more money and our own precious policeman's blood protecting their
(15:29):
stay here.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
His quote, he's his quote.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
More than us having police stationed at the county line
to keep them out, you would have fifty thousand Denver
rights there. It's like Tenements Square moment with a rose
and the gun. Right, you'd have every one of those
Highland moms who came out for the migrants, and you
don't want to mess with them, he says, pandering to women.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Do you agree with this?
Speaker 3 (16:03):
How would you feel if Denver's mayor took the cops
who are already not enforcing homeless laws and vagrant laws
and car theft laws and instead took them put them
on the border to try to do arm battle with
(16:25):
federal agents. Is that what you're calling for? And by
the way, the Tenements Square with roses and the gun?
What Tenements Square moment were you watching, Mayor Johnston? The
Tenement Square moment that I watched, maybe because I'm older
than you, was a massacre. There was a man standing
(16:51):
in front of a row of tanks, a very iconic
moment caught on film. But you're getting that confused with
some sort of college protest in the sixties over Vietnam,
where protesters put flowers into the barrels of rifles that
the National Guard was pointing at them. I'm pretty sure
(17:14):
there were no roses going into the barrels of those
tanks on Tenements Square. By the way, Teneman Square is
probably pretty good, pretty good description. So you want fifty
thousand Denver rights to be massacred at city Park as
(17:35):
they stand up for their desire to continue to pay
to house and feed illegals?
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Is that what I get? How would you feel about that?
I'm just really curious. How do you take that quote?
Speaker 3 (17:52):
Do you think it's the right use of police resources
to put station them on the county line to keep
federal agents out of Denver who are here to arrest
and deport illegals? Three or three seven one three eight
two five five seven one three?
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Talk?
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Is that?
Speaker 1 (18:12):
Is that what you what you want? Now? I don't.
I don't think so. How about this one, mister Caldera.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
Didn't hear the mayor of Denver commit insert inciting insurrection
when he stated the city of Denver would physically block
federal government from enforcing the letter of the law.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
Hmm, true?
Speaker 3 (18:38):
John, the mayor said he's willing to stand up and
go to jail for the constitution to protect free speech
or Second Amendment rights. He also lacks much self awareness
that he doesn't realize that him and his party are
guilty of everything he vowed to stand up against.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Thank you, mister Galton.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
That one. Hmmm, John, and I keep hearing news stories
that Aurora is going to impound your car if the
tags are expired. You can't provide your license a proof
of insurance. They're using civil forfeiture to accomplish this. Just
(19:22):
curious how they can take the vehicle so quickly.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
That's a good question. We'll have to look into that one,
all right. The mayor, the mayor's going to use.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
Force to protect the people who are here illegally. Does
that just sound crazy? And when Trump talks about force,
the media goes ballistic.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
They lose it.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Notice that they.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
Didn't lose it on this one. When the mayor misspoke,
and he did misspeak. That's that's cutting a little slack
on that. But it does show where he's at and
what his priority is illegals over citizens.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
That's Denver. That's a sanctuary city.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
Back after this.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
Thirty three minutes after good morning, I'm John Kelder and
Michael Brown.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Give me a call. Three three seven one, three eight
two five five. Don't be scared. Just pick up your phone,
you dial those numbers and then we talk.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
I know, I know, crazy, Just give it a whirl.
Three O three seven one three eight two five five.
Mayor Johnson misspeaks. All right, let's just be really clear.
He definitely misspoke on this one. He he said, if
(20:59):
if Trump comes to to port the illegal migrants in Denver,
he's gonna have to get through the police at the
at the county line, and he's gonna have to deal
with fifty thousand, fifty thousand Denver rights protesting a lah
Tianeman's Square. For those of you too young to remember
(21:25):
or too old to remember, that was a massacre. The
people stood up to the government and got killed. Not
what you're not what I think you signed your citizens
up for. How do you feel about the mayor using
(21:46):
your police tax dollars to fight federal agents so that
that the migrants can stay here and continue to be
an expense on us. YEP, this is the problem when
they came in the first time, When they come in,
(22:07):
that's that's the problem.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
What what are we supposed to do?
Speaker 3 (22:16):
The question I want to ask these well meeting beautiful
people who want to help those people coming into the country.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
Is simple. The question is how many, exactly how many
would you allow in? Is there any point that you
would say no, that's too many.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
At what point would you say, yeah, you can come here,
but we're not paying for your food, shelter, medical, anything.
And if you're living on the street, we will arrest
you and send you back. So if you're going to
come here, you better have a job and a place
to stay.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
That would be that would be reasonable.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
But the mayor is saying that that it would be
okay to use police violence to keep this system, this
system of.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
Of welfare for lawbreakers.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
How do you explain, how do you explain to the
people who've come in here legally waited that, Oh no,
these people get all this free stuff. They just walked
across the border. Three h three seven one three eight
two five five seven one three talk. Let's see there's
a text. So he's going to use force to protect
(23:54):
the illegal aliens, but not to protect the tax payer
voting systems.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
Oh, I love that. I love that.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
This is when John the delicious Irony is Suddenly the
leftists are afraid of big government overreach.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
Oh, that is so true. So so the left.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
Doesn't want the federal government to come in here and
enforce federal law. Now, they don't want federal interference with
what goes on. What I love about the so called resistance,
And you see.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
This from.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
Our governor, who, along with Illinois Governor Pritzker, have made
this new organization to protect Democracy under the Trump Rain. Well,
the whole protecting democracy under the Trump Rain is a
pr move. I've gone to the website of this new organization.
There's no there there, but it's a couple very, very
(25:00):
wealthy governors who are personally multimillionaires in Pritzker's case, billionaires, and.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
They're going to.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
Exercise their Tenth Amendment rights to protect from the Trump,
the Trump authoritarianism. All of a sudden, progressives have found
the Tenth Amendment the state's rights amendment. They say, no, no, no,
(25:36):
forget Washington, Washington bad. Local state government's good.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
That's what we want.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
We want, we want the state to resist the feds.
So now they're afraid of big government overreach. It's really
it's really pretty delicious. Let's grab a phone call here,
let's talk to Vince. Good morning, Vince. You're with John Caldera.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
Good morning John. Look, Mike Johnston didn't misspeak. And I
love that term because he was very careful to use
the word Denveright. This is the same man who called
illegal aliens in a sanctuary city his newcomers, So he's
very careful with his words, and he's counting on those
(26:25):
newcomers to get him to fifty thousand. He's hoping for
the Highlands mommies, and that's an interesting term as well,
because they have a Facebook page that daily decries their
potential loss of nannies, gardeners, and landscapers. But in any event,
he's counting on a few actual citizens to come to
(26:46):
the rally or the defense of the city at the
county line. But really what he's doing is recruiting rioters,
and he's recruiting the very people that real citizens are
concerned about committing violence.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
It's actually quite.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
Ironic that he's asking them to behave in the way
that we expect them too in defense of their new city.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
That's an interesting that's an interesting thought, and you've got
a great point.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
So the mayor is expecting fifty thousand Highland moms to
come out and support his vision of a sanctuary city. One,
he's high, that's not going to happen. Two and two
(27:39):
is he if he was Trump, if he was a
Republican and said this, every media outlet would be jumping
on him because he would be calling for violence. This
is the violence that Trump promised. This is the danger
of the insurrection. He is calling for fifty thousand Denver
(28:03):
rights to stand up and do battle with federal forces.
But the media isn't calling him an insurrectionist. They're not
saying he's a threat to democracy. He's it's not a
threat to the rule of law. And by the way,
the rule of law says these people cannot be here.
(28:24):
That's the rule of law. But the double standard in
the media is, well, that's the reason why Trump won.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
This.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
If you do the one to eighty test, if you
switch things around and it was Trump who said something
like this, they would only fan the flames of what
a violent insurrectionist authoritarian he is that he wants. He's
calling on his followers to engage in violent insurrection. That's
(28:57):
what that's what the governor, that's what the mayor's doing here.
But it's not being called that.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
Well, you can tell the reaction of the media is
consistent with, you know, slinking away. Let's shy away from
the Denver mayor. Even they know it's absurd and they've
left it just sit there, and if you react to it,
they can now say, look at the extreme right wing
(29:28):
reacting to the Denver mayor. Rather than cover what the
mayor said and how absurd it is, well, let's.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
Let's get care.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
I mean, nine News sat down with the mayor and
the mayor walked back. He didn't retract it, he walked
it back. I should have said it differently, all right. Fine,
And as a guy, as a guy who's been is
living shooting his mouth off, I understand sometimes stuff falls
out of your head and you regret it, get it,
and I get it.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
You know.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
I know Mike Johnson, he's personally a wonderful guy, but
he's just so very wrong on this and this slip
of the tongue really shows it.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
It's kind of like when Obama
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