11-8-24 - 7am - Results Taking So Long and The Real World

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Born Michael and Dragon Michael.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
As usual, you're spot on with your analysis, in particular
on Trump's first term and the craziness of his staff.
If he recalled, not only was he looking to look
at a second term, but he was trying to gain
the support of the never trumpers, and he was very
accommodating to that crew and compromise what he would have

(00:23):
wanted to do.

Speaker 1 (00:25):
Good job, I'm a great we can guess.

Speaker 3 (00:27):
Thanks, and yeah, that's not going to happen again. There is.
First of all, think about this historically, only one other
time in US history have we had this time. You know,
it's kind of interesting. Dragon and I are both old
enough that we've lived through two members of the same

(00:51):
family being president. We had the Adams and we had
the Bushes, and now we've lived through something else that's
unique in presidential history, and that's one person serving two
separate terms as president, separated by an intervening period. Grover Cleveland,

(01:13):
I think have to double check that one. I was
just curious because I wanted to talk about the US
Senate for a moment, but I wasn't quite sure about
Colorado's congressional race in the eighth district. So I just
pulled up the Denver Gazette, just refreshed the page eighty

(01:38):
eight percent of votes counted. Caraveo is at forty nine
percent with one hundred and forty two thousand, three hundred
and eighty two votes, and Gabe Evans is at forty
eight point two percent, so a point eight percent difference
at one hundred forty twenty three votes, so slightly over

(02:01):
twenty three hundred votes separating them. On X yesterday, I
let me pull my profile up on X yesterday, I
made some comment about that was pretty cheesy. Dragon. I
pull up over my ex account and balloons go flying up.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
That's because it's a happy day.

Speaker 3 (02:25):
But seriously, does Elon have anything better to do than
have his people program.

Speaker 1 (02:31):
To do that happy day?

Speaker 3 (02:34):
Seriously? I had tweeted out something to the effect about
Arizona and Maricopa County. How is it that Florida I
still use Florida as the as the gold standard? How
is it that Florida is able to count tens of

(02:55):
millions of votes and get that done and there's else
within two hours? And here we are on Friday, November eight,
and we're still waiting for Maricopa county in Arizona, you know,
the largest county in Arizona, Phoenix, Scottsdale, Tampe, all of
that right there, and they're still trying to figure out

(03:17):
who won their US Senate race. And here we are
in Colorado in the eighth Congressional district, still going on
about what the hell's going on there? So I had
tweeted out earlier about you know, what is it about
Arizona and Maricopa County? Is it some third world country?
And then I thought to myself, hm, let's see what's
going on in Colorado's eighth So I tweeted out later

(03:41):
my apologies from my earlier tweet about Arizona and in
particular Americopa County. I failed to include Colorado and our
eighth Congressional district, which includes parts of Adams, Larimernwell Counties,
just as in apt as Arizona Americopa County. Now Elk Hunter,
who elk Hunter is elk Hunter? I assume elk Hunter

(04:04):
follows me hunting ghosts, uh something. Since a buck with
silver got a couple of American flags a bald eagle,
I think this is a good old boy, uh, he
commented Weld County is claiming that signature match calls are

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very high number, meaning a huge amount of ballots that
have no signature or a signature on the envelope that
nowhere near matches.

Speaker 1 (04:38):
Hmm.

Speaker 3 (04:40):
If that's the case, then why don't we just go where?
Walk up, show your ID? Oh hello, mister Brown, let
me find you on the rolls. Yes, here you are.
Let me check you off as I hand you your ballot,
Go mark your ballot and bring it back to me
and and we'll count it. Or because now, let me

(05:07):
pull up the Wall Street Journal. Let me see where
we are in terms of the Wall Street Journal. What
do they have to say? Yes, let's see. Hey, here's
what kills me about. Arizona. Trump leads by five point
nine percent with seventy six percent of votes counted. Nevada
Trump leads by three point four percent with ninety six percent.

(05:29):
So why are we calling Arizona and Nevada? By the way,
once those are counted, that's eighteen electoral votes. That brings
Trump up to three hundred and thirteen or something that
that's an electoral landslide. But the House it's still two

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hundred and eleven Republicans. So we're seven short of the majority.
Democrats have one hundred and ninety nine. Let's see if
we have any new results on those. Let's see house races,
house races. Just hang on, hang on, now, I'd have

(06:13):
to dig in to it further. Do you now I'm
just speculating here. I'm not I'm not making accusations. I'm
not trying to get conspiracy theorists all wound up or
anything else. But if we're at the stage where we
have seven shy of being in the majority or retaining

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the majority in the House, are some states slow walking?
Are they searching for ballance or you know, try to
try to be fair? Are they trying to be doubly
careful because the races are so close that look, Colorado
eighth is close if you're only separated by a couple

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of thousand votes out of you know, what was the
total number cast? Out of almost three thousand votes cast,
one hundred and forty and forty so two hundred eighty
two thousand votes cast. Are they just trying to be
extraordinarily careful or are they searching? And by searching, I

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mean do we need do we need some more do
we need some more votes?

Speaker 1 (07:29):
Over here.

Speaker 3 (07:30):
Now, I'm not making that allegation. I'm just but why,
this is why we need to figure out how to
fix this system. I consider myself don't laugh when I
say this. I consider myself to be a rational human
being that relies predominantly well I've got I've got a
strong emotional side, while I rely on logic, rational thinking,

(07:56):
critical thinking. When you look at a place like Colorado's
eighth and we're still counting votes and it's now three
days if seventy two hours later, come on, what's going on?
Any rational person has to ask the question what's going on? Now?

(08:20):
Asking what's going on does not imply anything the farious
is going on. But again, I'm really curious about the
lack of curiosity. I'm really curious about the lack of concern.
I'm really curious about the lack of any any sort
of inquisitiveness on the part of local media about what's

(08:43):
going on in Colorado eighth. We know it's close when
it's only separated by eight tenths of a percent. Yes,
that's a close race, and yes you want to be
extraordinarily careful in a close race like that. But still,
when we have all mail in balloting when we have

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all these tabulation machines that you know, it's it's like
scoring your act exam. They run it through, and I
know it's more that voting is more important than an
act exam or an SAT or whatever they'll they take. Now,
I know that's more important.

Speaker 1 (09:23):
Voting.

Speaker 3 (09:24):
Is why is it so damn difficult to tabulate? And
if the problem is signatures, maybe we ought to address
that problem. If the problem is go back to what
el Hunter said, Weld County claiming signature match calls are

(09:45):
very high. Are a very high number, meaning a huge
amounts of ballots that have no signature or a signature
on the envelope that nowhere near matches. Uh sock socrat ratus.
I've been refreshing NBC news all day and not a
single vote counted.

Speaker 4 (10:05):
D L.

Speaker 3 (10:05):
Smith of course. And this is where we get This
is why when you can't tell people, just tell us
the effing truth about what's going on, that's when you
get posts like this. Well, Michael, to be fair, the
cheat has to look legit, and that takes time. That's
my point. Or as idk Anymore says, they got a

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cheat where they can it's if we learn anything, and
this is the time to do it. When we have OSTENSIB,
we'll have control of the legislative branch and the executive branch.
This would be the time that we do something like

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we figure out a way to standardize a few things. Now,
I'm not trying to destroy federalism here. States still need
to conduct their elections, but should there not be some standards?
Should there not be something like Look in twenty twenty,
because of the Cares Act, states you go to mail imballoting.

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Colorado goes to all male imballoting. I don't care how
secure they say it is, and I don't care how
secure they say. Let me make the argument this way.
I told you about the story that I forget which
local news station ran it. But they were showing us
the sorting machines and the signature verification process that they use,

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which seemed to me to be incredibly time consuming, and
they were only matching signatures to your most recent signature,
and then if it didn't match the most recent signature,
then it got sent to another level of review, and
then if they couldn't side, then it got to a
third level of review. Well how about you just get

(12:00):
of all of that everybody just shows up at the
same time and votes. I think we're one of only
a few countries in the world that votes on the
day other than Sunday. And I know that many people
might have religious objection to a voting on a Sunday,
because many people actually do try to keep the Sabbath holy.
But why don't we make it a national holiday? Hell's malls,

(12:23):
we got a national holiday for everything else, let's make it.
Let's make a national holiday for voting. Why don't we
do that? Just of course, dragon and I'd still be
in here having to work anyway.

Speaker 1 (12:33):
But you know, they're even closing schools the day after
the election just because.

Speaker 3 (12:39):
Yeah exactly, I mean, good grief, We've got safe spaces
at the Ivy League schools so they can go in
cry and whimper and curl up in a fetal position.

Speaker 1 (12:48):
Arguably, days off from school are different than having a
national holiday and whatnot. But do you know, apples oranges
still fruits?

Speaker 3 (12:55):
Yeah, still fruit, And we're all fruity about all of
this in my opinion. Oh yeah, I failed. I'm sorry.
I was just looking at my at my x feed. Yes,
Susie Wiles is pat Summerle's daughter, and yes, that is

(13:21):
why she's smart and tough. Anyway, back, so back to
the Senate, that's where ibis head. It had to think
for a moment where I was going. So Dave McCormick
just headed is headed to d C. Pennsylvania has gone red.
He defeated an incumbent US Senator Bob Casey, who's been

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I think he was seeking either his third or fourth term.
Now they serve six year terms, so this is a
guy who's been in the Senate for at least twelve
if not eighteen years, I forget which he had three
or four terms, and Bob Casey is the sky on
of a powerful Democrat political dynasty in Pennsylvania. This was

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a wipeout with ninety nine percent of the vote. Count of
McCormick is currently at forty nine percent. Casey has garnered
forty eight point five percent. Before the batch of votes,
the final batch of votes was counted, the race had
been far closer, with under zero point five percent separating
the two candidates, but under Pennsylvania law, any race under

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half a percent heads to an automatic recount. But you know,
recounts rarely, if ever, overturn an election, So McCormick, Dave
McCormick will join a new generation of America First lawmakers
who rode Trump's coattails to victory. That's an important statement

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to consider, because Trump's coattails. If you go look at
California now California, the interior of California has kind of like,
other than the front range of Colorado, those internal areas
of California, almost right down the middle have almost always

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been predominantly read. But it's bleeding over into the coastal
areas and over into the Nevada border. Trump had coattails
in California. Trump had coattails in New York. And the
point I want to make is there is, indeed this
new generation of America First. In footnote, I hate the

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phrase America First for historical reasons because it goes back
to Charles Lindbergh and the America First Committee, which was
determined to keep us out of World War One, which
I think would have been a huge mistake, which also
led to a whole bunch of other stuff. But America

(16:08):
First kind of like homeland security. I hate the name
homeland security. It just has kind of this kind of
germanesque you know, kind of just the homeland Yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:22):
The father land security. Yeah, that doesn't.

Speaker 3 (16:26):
Sound fatherland security, motherland security, internal security. That's what we need,
the Department of Homeland or the Department of Internal Security. Anyway,
we're going to have a new majority leader in the
US Senate. It's going to be probably John Thune, John Cornyan,

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or Rick Scott. Who are those three? Would you pick? Well,
let me tell you who I'd first eliminate, John Cornyan
of Texas, go away Thoon? Okay, Rick Scott? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (17:02):
A national holiday for voting? Am I wrong? But wouldn't
government officials be off that day? Who would count the ballots?
Who would work? And not very many of us get
national holidays off.

Speaker 3 (17:19):
Just to point upon her, Well, I didn't say I
was for it or that it would work. I'm just
trying to figure out a way to clean up the system.

Speaker 1 (17:32):
Just spitballing ideas here.

Speaker 3 (17:34):
Balling, We're just spitballing, just spitting, spitting, spitting. I was
just looking through what the the morning shows were talking about.
Jill Scarborough had this to say on a show a

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little while ago.

Speaker 1 (17:57):
And then not bad today that we're going.

Speaker 4 (17:58):
To be talking about, and he also talks about what
Democrats missed. And we talked about how Democrats would see
the shocking things that Donald Trump would say on the
campaign trail and they would think that was going to
be what made the difference. Him rambling about Hannibal Lecter,
him rambling about electric boats, him rambling about sharks, him
rambling about going after Nancy Pelosi, going after Liz Cheney,

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all of.

Speaker 1 (18:22):
These other things.

Speaker 4 (18:23):
And what Frank Bruney said is they weren't paying attention.

Speaker 1 (18:26):
To it, even the big things. They were paying attention
to the debates. Yeah, said that a lot of.

Speaker 4 (18:33):
People, and a lot of Democrats looked at those big
media events, those big political events, thinking that that would
smudge over the reality of inflation and how much grocharies
cost and how much gas costs, and how hard it
was to get into a home. And Frank Bruney says, democrats.

Speaker 1 (18:51):
Never got it.

Speaker 4 (18:53):
Well, we were looking at all of the crazy things
Donald Trump was saying on the campaign trail, all of
the frightening things Donald Trump was saying on the campaign trail.
They were looking at their wallet. They were looking what
groceries cost, what gas costs, what went costs, and none
of that really penetrated their conscious when they went to
vote right.

Speaker 6 (19:14):
It's I think hard for a hard working American who's busy,
who's got kids, who's got a lot of things to
worry about, to even take a moment to comprehend enemy
from within or Hitler's generals.

Speaker 5 (19:25):
Or.

Speaker 3 (19:28):
Do you want proof that they live in a bubble?
That's it. We know that, first of all, the enemy
within taken out of contact.

Speaker 1 (19:41):
I'm surprised they didn't bring up very fine people.

Speaker 3 (19:43):
Very fine people.

Speaker 6 (19:45):
You know.

Speaker 3 (19:45):
I'm sure that if we if I had a longer clip,
they probably mentioned that somewhere. Or putting Nancy Pelosi in jail.
We all know that that's Trump hyperbole.

Speaker 1 (19:55):
Pointing guns that Liz Yes, pointing the gun that Liz.

Speaker 3 (19:59):
Let's put Liz out there with twelve guns pointing at
her face and see if she still wants to go
to war. These people are so disconnected and it's and
it's not just let me emphasize, it's not just the
national people that that that live in a bubble. I
think that all media people live in a bubble. You say, well, Michael,

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do you live in a bubble? No, because I live
in the real world. I live in the real world
every single day. The bubble I'm talking about is because
outside of Dragon, outside of I'm trying to say, I
gotta be outside of Dragon. Other than business meetings and Dragon,

(20:40):
I don't do it that often. We do it well,
once a year, twice a year, we socialize. We'll go
to lunch or something. These people, this is they're the
only ones they talk to. The only people out there
I'm pointing out here to the rest of my building,
of this building. The only people out there that I

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ever really interact with is when we're at a client meeting,
or we've gone to visit one of my sponsors, or
they're asking me about would you be willing to endorse
this or this or this? Or passing in the hallway,
Hey Michael, how are you doing today? All right, Dave,
how are you doing today?

Speaker 5 (21:19):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (21:19):
Blah, that's it. I don't socialize with them. I don't
golf with them, I don't go hiking with them. I
don't take vacations with them. These people are all incestuous,
and you can take that however you want to. They're
all incestuous, and so they don't really and you think
about I don't know, for a fact how much Mika

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Brazienski or Joe Scarborough make. But I guarantee you it's
more than Probably it's I would I would probably bet
my kingdom that it's at a minimum five million dollars
a year, probably more than that, because I'm not quite
I'm sure they get paid a salary plus you know,

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a bonus on ratings and blah blah blah blah. So
they have an entire compensation package. So they don't live
like middle class America. They don't. There was a SoundBite
from yes I should, I should go find it work.
Did I play the sound bite yesterday Dragon where they
were talking about the price of butter?

Speaker 1 (22:23):
No, I don't think so, because I don't recall it.

Speaker 3 (22:25):
So there was a SoundBite that I I was going
to use yesterday where they Joe Scarborough was shocked that
butter was seven dollars a pound or seven dollars a
package or whatever it is, and Meegor chimes in and goes, oh, no,
it's actually more than that. Now they don't have a clue.

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Now they may go, look, they're real people. They probably
do go to the grocery store or they maybe have
their groceries delivered.

Speaker 1 (22:55):
Well, we talked about it a few weeks ago. There's
nine dollars baloney.

Speaker 3 (22:59):
Yes, but the difference is DRAGON and I are price sensitive.
We we understand that there is a point at which,
you know what, I can probably afford the nine dollars baloney,
but on principle, I'm not gonna buy the nine dollars baloney. They,

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on the other hand, just want blooney. So they're just
gonna buy it. And they and they eat a lot
of blooney because that's what they feed us. They just
I just can't emphasize enough. You know, probably the And
I know that if Tammer's listening, I know that she

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she loved Washington, d c. She loved she loved she
loved living in northern Virginia. She loved the area. She
thought it was wonderful. I hated it. I I just
I couldn't stand it. But we also lived in a bubble.
We lived in a bubble. Where does the traffic suck? Yeah,
but we don't care because we're sitting in the back

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seat of a suburban. We're sitting in the backseat of,
you know, of a Cadillac. We're sitting in the back
seat that you know. They they got the lights and
siren going and and we're going wherever you want to go.
We don't care about traffic. Oh we can't get a table.
Oh oh we want a table at a particular restaurant. Well,
I'll have my schedule to make sure that we got

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a table at a restaurant at a certain time. It's
an entirely different world. I don't want to go back
to that world because it's not real. It's just and
it results in people's brains deteriorating to where they believe
that that is the real world and it's not. And

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that's why the founding father so desperately wanted us to
have a citizen legislature. Serve, serve a couple of terms,
go back to farming, serve a couple of couple of terms,
go back to doing whatever you were doing. But we
don't have that anymore. What we have now is we
have a ruling political class, we have a ruling media class,

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we have a ruling tech class. And they are completely
separate and apart. They're divorced from reality. When I think,
when I think about the wealthy people that I know,
the as I've said, I know a few billionaires. I
know a lot of and I don't and I don't

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mean like a millionaire, like they've got a home that's
worth a million dollar. I'm talking about people that have
you know, they're they're worth a hundred million dollars. They
just have a different perspective on what the real world is.
Like they want something, they just get it. They they're

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they may be shocked, you know, Warren Buffett probably you know,
if if if Warren Buffett still goes to Dairy Queen,
and excuse me, if he still eats lunch at Dairy Queen,
to still go to get a chocolate covered ice cream cone,
he probably analyzes the price. He probably analyzes what's going

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in this ice cream that used to this ice cream
cone used to cost me a dollar, is now costing
me a dollar ninety nine or two twenty five. And
he's probably in his head wondering, okay, now what's going
into that price. But he's not sensitive to the price
in the sense that he's still gonna he's still gonna
get the ice cream cone. And and if he took

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all of his grandkids, he's still buy his grandkids all
the ice cream cones they wanted. They're just not price sensitive.
It's gotten for me, even though I can afford it,
It's gotten to me where I look, you know, my
big bug. But you know, I know every day I

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stop and get a diet cone and I know it Circlekay.
They've gone from you know, ninety nine cents to it's
the dollar six cents whatever it was. It used to
be like seventy four cents. Anyway, it's going to a
dollar six cents. Well, I'm cognizant of it, but I
still buy it. But what I've started doing is, and
of course it also has to do with I'm trying

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to drink not quite as much. A diet coke. You
go to a restaurant, and while they'll still give you
free refills one of our favorite Mexican restaurants, do you
know what a diet coke now costs three dollars and
seventy five cents. So just for Tamer and I to
have two diet cokes is like seven dollars and fifty cents. Seriously,

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for for two glasses of chemicals that you'll, oh, you'll
put it, you'll give me extra ice, and you'll refill it.
You'll refill it three or four times if I want
you to. But I don't want to spend seven dollars
and fifty cents on diet coke. No, I can just
drink water or better yet, I'll just have I'll just
have just bring me couple of shots at tequila tmos.

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Since if I'm going to spend seven dollars on something
to drink on out eating dinner, it's going to be something,
you know, tequila. Joe Scarborough and Miriky Brazinski. Voters were
looking at their wallet, not Trump's frightening rhetoric. No Feci Sherlock.

(28:23):
That's why you lost because you refuse to admit that
Democrat policies are destroying the economy. Do you think the
economy's good? Hangtight, Happy Friday.

Speaker 7 (28:36):
Well, with all this talk, I know we got four
years to get there. But what about JD. Tulsi twenty
twenty eight? That sounds pretty good. Have a great day.

Speaker 3 (28:50):
They didn't take long dragon seventy two hours. We got
our first talk back about twenty twenty eight. Think about JD. Vans.
So here's the guy that drove grows up in Appalachia.
He's got a crackhead mom, raised by his grandmother, that.

(29:10):
If you've seen the movie, it's it really is worth watching.
Raised by a grandmother that's tough as nails, I mean
tough old woman, and makes it into Yale, at least
according to the movie. His first clerkship during law school,

(29:33):
he almost loses because of trying to take care of
his mom, bringing back to Ohio. And now he's going
to be sworn in as the vice President of the
United States of America. Before we get too excited about JD. Now,
don't get me wrong, don't misread that. I love JD. Vans.

(29:55):
I thought he he he prosecuted himself incredibly well. During
every single interview that he did, he was brilliant. How
many vice presidents become presidents? How many Vice President Quail

(30:22):
remember him? Remember Vice President Quail? Remember Vice President Nance?

Speaker 1 (30:30):
Well, the current president was a vice president.

Speaker 3 (30:35):
Yes, but it took him a while to get there.

Speaker 7 (30:40):
True.

Speaker 3 (30:40):
Yeah, I don't think the rate of vice presidents going
on to become presidents, I don't even think it's I
don't think it's even fifty percent. Dragons looking up here.

Speaker 1 (30:54):
A QUICKUS Senate dot gov. Of the fifteen vice presidents
who went on to become president, eight succeeded the office
the death of the president, and four of these were
later elected to president.

Speaker 3 (31:06):
So eight upon a death, and those eight four were
eventually elected in their own right. Correct, and then that's it.
That's it out of forty seven. Yeah, it's not exactly
a great percentage. I down five leaders of doctor pepper

(31:27):
a day, and don't drink water. Here's out wreck my body,
speaking of my diet coke habit. At least mind's diet
coke dr pepper Man by his friends. The father of
two spent thirty pounds on the drink over the last decade.
Guzzling nearly five leaders two and a quarter giant bottles
per day sent them back about two hundred and fifty

(31:49):
pounds per month. He refused to give up. His increasing
wasteline trouble sleeping, terrible oral health eventually proved be the
motivation he needed to change his ways. For a while,
my teeth weren't too bad. Well, you start out bad
because you're brit So you're British and you got bad teeth.
But then I went to the dentist and he said

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the level of acid erosion was very similar to what
he would expect in this seventy year old Britain. I
basically got the teeth of a pensioner. Five leaders of
Sugary Soda Dragon. I looked at a at a bowl
of Halloween candy out in the pit during the last break,

(32:31):
and we both just looked at.

Speaker 1 (32:32):
It and went shuddered.

Speaker 3 (32:36):
And on the empty stomach. Right now, oh my god,
we'll talk about the economy coming back.