12-6-25 The Weekend Hour 3: Who’s Moving Where and Why?

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
To night. Michael Brown joins me here the former FEMA
director talk show host Michael Brown.

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Michael Brown USA, at Michael Brown USA for years now,
Ken you know, having dinner with friends last night and
bringing the story came up, and then I went home
last night I started digging around trying to find out
more information about it. But conservative Californians have just been
leaving the state in droves because they went to escape

(00:47):
all the radical and of course the social and economic
policies of Governor Newsom, and all this fellows socialists and
Marxists in the California State Assembly. Likewise, New York City
elect O fram Mom Donnie promising socialism for the Big Apple.
He's still out there talking about how he wants to
implement a rent freeze, which will just destroy the rental

(01:10):
market in New York. But you know, residents are considering
moving out of New York because they want to find
a place where they can actually afford to make a living.
You ever thought about that phrase, they want to afford
to make a living. So across the country, Americans are
voting with their feet because they want to avoid politicians

(01:33):
that don't represent their core values, or for that matter,
politicians who don't care about their economic well being. But
it's not only conservatives that are picking up you hauls
and heading into the heartland in search of the American dream.
And this is what bugs me. Democrats in Republican states

(01:57):
are putting up for sale signs and moving to places
where they can congregate with their neighbors who share their worldview.
At the beginning of the program, I forget what the
context was because I've since moved on from the first hour.
Oh you're talking about Henry Quayar on that pardon, But
I mentioned Texas, and Texas is a great example of this.

(02:21):
Texas is the holy grail for Democrats because with all
of their electoral votes, if they could turn Texas blue,
then they could own the presidency for the rest of
our lifetimes. However, what they're doing is when and I'll

(02:44):
get into more details in just a minute. They're picking
up and they may be moving, say from a rural part,
you know, maybe they're moving from Amarillo, Texas out in
the panandle and instead they're moving down to Dallas, Fort
Worth or San Antonio or Waco or Austin or Harris County, Texas,
which includes all of Houston, and so they're turning those

(03:05):
areas purple and then blue. The same thing happened in
Colorado twenty years ago. Three three leading Democrats, a big
tech giant, our current governor who used to be a congressman,
and a heiress to a medical device fortune got together

(03:26):
and created what was called the Blueprint, and they used
that blueprint as their way. They were going to pretty
much invade the front range of Colorado. If you look
at a map of Colorado, many people think, for example,
that Denver is up in the mountains. Denver is not
in the mountains. The mountains are, I mean, they're close
to us, but we're pretty much flat landers. If you've

(03:48):
ever been to Calgary, Canada, we're not quite as far
away from the Rocky Mountains as Calgary is, say getting
up into the bamf area, but where you know. You
get out to Golden Colorado suburb of Denver and you
start heading up I seventy, you're in the mountains, but
everything else is flatland. Same as true if you're looking

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again looking at a map of Colorado, say from Fort
Collins down through Loveland, Longmont, Boulders up against the mountains,
the People's Republic of Boulder, and then Denver, Lakewood, Broomfield.
I'm gonna leave out different places. But then you get
into Littleton, the Highlands, ranch into the Castle Rock, get
down into Colorado Springs. That's the Front Range. And it's

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called the Front Range because we're up against the Rocky Mountains.
That area has turned Colorado blue. Now there's still pockets
of blue. You get to some of the hoity toy
places like Aspen or Vale or tell your Ride, and
they're definitely blue counties. But the rest of the state,

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just in terms of square miles, we should be a
red state. But the problem is most of the population
is in the Front Range. All in all, though it's
conservative leaning residents. Going back to the general topic, it's
conservative leaning residents who think that their quality of life

(05:16):
in these Democrats strongholds is bad enough to break ties
with communities where sometimes they and their families have lived
for generations. The New York Times had a story where
they found that nine million more people moved from blue
states to red states over the past twenty years than

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the other way around. David Brooks, who is the putitive
the so called conservative calumnists for the New York Times,
elaborates this way. He says the quote. Between twenty ten
and twenty twenty, the fastest growing states were mostly red
places like Texas, Georgia, Florida, Tennessee, South Carolina, and during

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the pandemic that trend accelerated, and once again most of
the big population gaining states are governed by Republicans. If
you go back farther, you see decade after decade of
migration toward the more conservative South. But they're not moving
in search of warmer weather or simply because they don't

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like having a Democrat governor. It has to do with
what has I would say, over the past six weeks
has become the buzzword affordability. At dinner last night, I
heard my wife say to a friend of hers that

(06:43):
she had bought chicken breass and they seem to be
slightly less expensive. I wasn't really they were talking. The
girls were talking about something else, and I didn't hear
a lot about it, but I heard her say that
chicken breas seemed to be a little cheaper. And then
we got to gas, and I said, well, gas, I
paid two dollars seventy seven cents a gallon for premium

(07:06):
unleaded just a few days ago, which shocked them because
they live in another suburb. And the cheapest they found
that four was three sixteen. Prices for many things have
come down, and the rate of inflation is obviously dropped
from the highs of you know, down to a reasonable,

(07:28):
you know, what's pretty normal two percent. But we still
have an affordability problem because that increased inflation, particularly during
COVID Inflation Reduction Act, and you know, all of those
brillions of dollars spent by some by Trump and mostly
by Biden established a new baseline. And that baseline means

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that even though prices may have come down, and my
wife recognizes that chicken breast costs have them down, it's
only down from the newly established higher baseline. A few
years back, the American Enterprise Institute analyzed data from the
Census Bureau trying to answer a question, are there any

(08:18):
significant differences between the top ten inbound and top ten
outbound states when they are compared on a variety of
measures of political party control, business climate, business and individual taxes,
physical health, electricity, housing costs, economic performance and outlook, and

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labor market dynamists dynamism. What did the aae AEI American
Enterprise Institute find out? That's next, I'll be right back.
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Who's moving where and why? Well, here's what the American
Enterprise Institute found the evidence suggests that Americans are moving
from blue states that are more economically stagnant, fiscally unhealthy

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states with higher tax burdens and unfriendly business climates with
higher energy and housing costs and few economic and job opportunities,
from there too, to fiscally sound red states that are
more economically vibrant, dynamic, and business friendly, with lower attacks
and regulatory burdens, lower energy and housing costs, and more

(10:04):
economic and job opportunities. Does it take a rocket scientist
to figure out that one of those two is a
good thing and one is a bad thing. Now, before
I get into more details about what this study shows,
I want you to stop for a moment and instead

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just put the idea about who moves where and why
aside for just a moment.

Speaker 1 (10:32):
Can you do it?

Speaker 2 (10:32):
Come on, come on, you guys can do this now.
I want you to think about this. The politicians like
I have here in Colorado, Governor Jared Polis, a billionaire
dumbass who likes to focus on importing gray wolves into
the state or forcing the public utilities to comply with

(10:57):
a Public Utilities Commission rule that everything has to become
electrified by a certain date in order to reduce our emissions,
and wants to create more affordable housing, but does so
by a bunch of grifting and corruption involving all these
developers and getting housing vouchers and payments from taxpayers for

(11:20):
bonds and bul I mean, it's horrific. Colorado is one
of the most expensive places to live. It's horrible. I
actually despise it. I love my state. My grandparents settled
in this state back during the dust Bowl. They would
look at it today and go, what the hell happened

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to you guys, And I'd say, well, twenty years ago,
Republicans were asleep with the switch. Somebody came up with
a roadmap about how they were going to turn this
state into a Democrat hello, and Republicans just were whistling
dicks against and let it happen. And here we are.
And truthfully, I really don't. I mean, I suppose if

(12:03):
I were really going to move, I would move, you know,
I might move where. You know, well, one of my
children is still here, my adult kids. One's down in Arizona.
I've got the house down in New Mexico. But I
like Colorado. I like the climate, I like the amenities
and things, But holy cow, it's crazy. So think about

(12:30):
the politicians when we see the data that says, oh,
you're a blue state governor, and people are now a
lot of people still move into Colorado simply because of
our climate and geography, because of our sports team's heritages,
because it's a beautiful state, so we have a natural draw.

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But then they get here and then they realize, holy cow,
my car insurance is what, my home insurance is.

Speaker 1 (13:02):
What I know.

Speaker 2 (13:05):
My sales tax is somewhat high. But when I look
at all the fees I pay that are truly taxes,
but you call them fees. And we have a flat
income tax, but you want to convert it to a
progressive income tax. Why am I here? Why am I here? Yes,
Purple Mountains, majesties, But oh I could take a vacation instead.

(13:28):
I just for the life of me, cannot understand what
I do understand. And I'm gonna tell you why. It
amazes me how blue state politicians continue to pursue their
ideology because they are truly so dogmatic in their beliefs
that they cannot see that what they are doing is
killing the goose that lays the golden egg. And that's

(13:51):
what's happening in these blue states. But they're so blinded
by their desire for power, for control, for turning, you know,
for being the first to successfully turn a democratic, constitutional
republic into a socialist or Marxist utopia, that they're not

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going to change. And it drives me backcrab crazy. The
decision to move to another state with a friendly, er
political environment. I understand that that's pretty easy to understand,
but still, economic conditions should not be so different, so

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divergent from state to state to cause people to pick
up their kids out of schools, or to break important
bonds with their neighbors, their churches, their work. To move
from one town to another's one thing, but there's certainly
a clear segment of our society that feels the American
dream is simply not possible where they live, so they're
just going to uproot everything and go somewhere else. Now,

(14:53):
we've always been a mobile society, and I think will
always be a mobile society. But what fascinates me and
discuss me are the politicians in the Blue states that
continue to destroy their states all to try to achieve
their socialist Marxist goals. Well, the very people that fund

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that are leaving in droves. See if I can find it.
Real quickly, I had a text message that, uh here
it is from Guber number thirty one to fifteen, Mike.
Washington State has become a hell hole. People are leaving
along with businesses due to our high record to our

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record high tax budget that our imbecilic governor approved. Meta
Facebook just pulled five building leases out of the state.
Amazon and Meta just let go of a bunch of
corporate employees. Our stupid government answer more taxes. It's awful
and we're stuck. That's what boggles my mind that the

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data is right in front of these governors and for
that matter, of the legislators to see that they're destroying
their own states, and yet they don't do it. That's
the economic side of it. And I, as I said,
the decision to move to another state with a friendly
or political environment, that's certainly understandable. I mean, I can

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tell you it's absolute hell living in Colorado and listening
to some of the dumb ass rey coming out of
the Colorado polit Bureau or the governor's mouth. It's amazing.
What I wouldn't give for even a at this point
I'd be happy with a moderate governor, just somebody that
understood basic economies, that understood the whole Laffer curve, that

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understood that growth has to come from the private sector,
not from more government employees or more government programs. But
here's the kicker from this study. It's not all about
identity with a political party or a certain political movement.
Axio says that politics isn't the main reason people consider

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moving to another state. The biggest drivers are more likely
to be economic reasons, the cost of living in jobs,
or personal or family reasons. Now that may be true,
the political ideology has a direct impact on all of
those other things, the economic reasons, the cost of living, jobs,

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personal and family reasons. Of course, political ideology affects that,
and they don't get it. They absolutely don't get it.
But at some point I don't necessarily want to be around.
It'll all go to hell in a handbasket and some
wady all wake up and go, oh, there's a different

(17:51):
way of doing things. It's the weekend of Michael Brown.
Hang tight, I'll be.

Speaker 1 (17:54):
Right back tonight. Michael Brown joins me here. The former
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Speaker 2 (18:09):
Brown broadcasting life from Denver, Colorado. It's the Weekend of
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a favor. Go follow me on x at Michael Brown USA.
So I'm we were talking about everybody moving from state state,
but one of the reasons that people move is obviously
because of costs, and costs of living in any particular
place can be prohibiting. And I find it fascinating that

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politicians don't understand that in pursuit of their idealistic yet
unrealistic goals, whether that be because of so called climate change,
or it's because they have a secret, kind of subliminal
desire to control every aspect of your life. And I'll
give you an example. I really want to talk about electricity.

(19:16):
You tuned, didn't talk about electricity. Yeah, well that's what
you're gonna get. But before I talk about electricity. I
want to I want to mention roads because in Colorado,
in fact, I'm in the process of trading cars, and
I'm doing it with an out of state dealer, and
the out of state dealer even even from a state

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that is well, I'm guessing twelve hundred miles from me.
Maybe not quite that far, but far enough away that
I didn't want to go drive to pick up the car.
So they're going to transport. He said, oh, yeah, you
guys have really bad roads. How do you know that?
And he goes, well, you have bad roads because of putation.

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You have bad roads because we've sold cars in your
state before and people have had bitch and moaned about
you know, blah blah blah blah. And he says, and
of course I've been to Colorado. Oh, so now we
get to the real truth. So you've actually driven here.
So whether you were coming along I seventy or coming
down the twenty five, you hit the state line and
the first thing you hit was a bothole. Yes, that's

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exactly right. Do you know why we have bad roads
in Colorado? Now, to be objective, I will first say
it's because of our climate. For example, today is a
gorgeous state. Let me look at my watch and see
what the temps. It's forty five degrees outside right now. Now,
if you live in a really cold climate, you may think, what,

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that's balmy, that's really good. Well I think it's good too,
because earlier this week we were in the zeros and
the teens, we had a cold front moved through. So
when you think about whether it's a concrete road, an
asphalt road, or anything, the melting and the thawing, the
melting in the thawing, of course, tears up the asphalt,
tears up the concrete, and we have bad roads because

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of that. But I don't believe that's the primary reason
because other states, let me look over my shoulder to
the north. Oh yeah, look at Wyoming. They've got it
even worse than we do. And their roads are one
hundred percent better than Colorado. So what's the difference. The
difference is in Colorado we have a governor and a

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state legislature and a Department of Transportation that is more focused.
And I believe, I don't just believe this, I can
qualify it. They want us out of our cars, and
part of that insanity is they don't recognize again if

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you look at a map of Colorado, I forget how
many square miles we are, but you know we're kind
of a square state, and we've got the eastern plains,
We've got the Cotton Old Divide coming down across the
you know, the what would be the western one third

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of the state. And then on the western slope you
get back into a plains where you can grow wine
and all sorts of fruit and things. And then in
southern Colorado you've got a little mixture of both plains
and mountains. Getting people out of their cars, say on
the eastern plains, where driving from in these towns won't

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mean anything to you unless you live in Colorado. If
you want to drive from Sterling in the northeast corner
down to Campo, which is a little, tiny, tiny town
barely I don't think even has a stop sign, let
alone a stop light in it anymore, we'll take you
all day long, all day long to drive that. And

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they want they. When I say they, I'm referring to
Governor Jared Polus, the Democrat governor of the state, the
legislator in the Colorado Pullet Bureau, and the bureaucrats around
the color of Colorado Department of Transportation. They don't think
about those people because those people out on the eastern Plains, well,
they're just the you know, they're the plebs out there.

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And while they provide all the oil and natural gas
and the wheat and soybeans and the corn and the
pheasant hunting and the quail hunting and everything else that
we need, no, no, we don't care about them. We
only care about the cool people that live in Denver
and it's environs, and we want to get them out
of their cars because well, we have traffic jams like

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you're you're driving the five in California, the four oh
five we got, we now have traffic jams like that,
or if you're driving a ninety five on the East coast,
we have traffic jams like you'd have going around three
ninety five in Washington, d C. We now have that
in Denver. Maybe not quite as bad, but eighty ninety
percent as bad as what they are in those areas.

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And so they want to get us out of our
car cars, and they want to reduce emissions. They are
still hell bent on climate change. Now the rest of
the state, the rural areas need cars to get from
point A to point B. But here they'll take a
four lane broadway a four lane parkway, and they'll reduce

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it down to two lanes, jamming up traffic. And they'll
create bike lanes where there are no bikers. Well, they'll
create pedestrian walkways where there are no pads, all in
an attempt to try to get you out of your cars.
They won't approve development unless there happens to be a
light rail station nearby, because they're trying to get you

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on light rail, because nobody will ride the light rail
system or use public transportation, which doesn't make any sense
to me. It's impractical for me to use. I wouldn't
use it anyway. I like the freedom and independence of
my own vehicle and coming and going when I damn
well please. That's the American way. But that's not the

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communist way. The communist way is to jam you into
a train, jam you into a bus, jam you where
it's difficult to drive because we got too many bike
bike lanes but no bikers. That's why we have lousy roads.
The money doesn't go into maintaining and rebuilding or expanding
the roadways. It goes into all that other bull crap,

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and the consequence of that is you reduce the standard
of living, you increase the cost of transportation. It costs
you more in time, energy, and resources to go from
home to work than it would if you actually spend
the money, the tax dollars that we pay for roadbuilding

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on road building. That's what's wrong with the country is
these left blue states like Colorado and whatever's blue state
you may live in, spends money on all all the
wrong things. Now, let's swerve from that to electricity. Because
last winter, and I'm sure we're to hear it again

(26:09):
this winter, that complain about surging electric bills that people
were having difficulty keeping up with was prevalent up in
the Northeast, including in Delaware and other states, leading to
demands that state and local governments do something about the problem.
But what they do. They just shrugged their shoulders and
blamed the cold weather. But with a chilly start to

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winter already on taps for different parts of the country,
including a significant winter storm that occurred over the Thanksgiving
weekend the Midwest, I think that concern about electricity is real,
and now it is back. So what do they do?
In a state like Colorado where we already have exorbitant
electric rates. Stay tuned, I'll be right back. Thanks for

(27:03):
listening to the Weekend with Michael Brown. I know you
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I do want to always take an opportunity to tell

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you how much I appreciate you listening. So we've been
talking about this phenomenon, which I think is just greater
than it has been in the past because we've always
been in mobile society and we've always moved from place
to place. I know a lot of people never leave
their home state, but other people tend to move, you know,
halfway around the country, halfway around the world. But in Colorado,

(27:48):
the insanity of why things are more expensive here is
because of the absolute ignorance and I think blind eye
that our political leaders turned when it comes to basic economies.
On December two, just four days ago, the Colorado Public

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Utilities Commission finalized a regulatory framework that I think exemplifies
a fundamental logical contradiction in energy policy. They went to
simultaneously force utilities to dramatically reduce natural gas consumption because
of those evil emissions its fossil fuels, while mandating total

(28:32):
electrification of residential and commercial buildings and homes. Now, if
you understand anything at all, that approach ignores basic economics.
It ignores technological realities and the actual preferences and the
financial circumstances of consumers in Colorado. Their whole purpose is

(28:54):
to reduce greenhouse gas emissions from their systems, the utility
systems by forty one percent compared to a baseline established
in twenty fifteen and an implicit target of complete elimination
of natural gas emissions by twenty fifty. So to do that,
there's only two ways easier. Either reduce methane leaks in

(29:17):
existing pipelines, or you've got to remove customers from the
gas system entirely. And since methane recovery and pipeline repairs
alone would never achieve a forty one percent reduction, let
alone one hundred percent, the mandate is truly just trying
to require forced electrification of most residential and commercial buildings.

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And the logical problem is start because our grid relies
significantly on natural gas generation to balance intermittent renewable sources
are you know, because the wind and solar is not permanent.
It's intermittent and it can't meet the peak demand. The
state maintains that the Comanche coal facility we have down

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in southern Colorado and Pueblo typically because the Public Utilities
Commission recognize that eliminating natural gas consumption while simultaneously electrifying
buildings would create dangerous supply gaps. Yet they are simultaneously
pushing utilities and rate payers to abandon natural gas while

(30:18):
demands for electricity continues to surge. It's insane. The financial impact,
and this gets to the whole idea about why people move.
The financial impact on people living in Colorado will be staggering.
Let me emphasize that staggering because Colorado residential electric rates

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currently average about fourteen zero point ninety two cents per
kilabate hour. Natural gas costs about ten dollars per thousand
cubic feet. Now, when you convert those numbers to a
common energy unit. You'll find a brutal math. Electricity is
more than four times more expensive than natural gas on

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a per unit of energy basis. Consider some specific costs
that families will face. Oh, they keep telling us, install
a heat pump, a cold climate heat pump like you
need in suitable for Colorado costs between twelve and fifteen
thousand dollars out of pocket. That's just for an average

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twoth or three thousand square foot home. For many Colorado
families they're struggling with just housing affordability. Or if you're
a builder and you're going to put that into a
new home, you've just added at least fifteen thousand dollars
to the cost of a new home, all because of
a stupid regulation. And then politicians wonder why people leave

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the state or leave your state, because I know this
is the kind of dumb assy that goes on in
blue states all over the country. Two, there's a twenty
twenty three cost comparison analysis that compares efficient gas to
all electric homes, and that study found the switching from

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natural gas to electric heat pumps would increase annual energy
costs by one hundred and twelve percent. That accounts or
converts to an additional one thousand, seven hundred dollars per
year just to maintain your home. There's another study that
found that high efficiency gas heating costs eight hundred and

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fifteen dollars on an annual basis compared to more than
thirteen hundred dollars for electrified homes, a seventy percent increase. Now,
if you're living on the margins or you're living paycheck
to paycheck, that may not seem like, oh, Michael, eight
hundred dollars annually to thirteen hundred dollars, that's five hundred bucks.

(32:55):
It's still a seventy percent increase. And you're telling me that, oh,
people can just absorb that. No, and think about this,
the older the house that you live in, the worst
of the economics, because older homes electrified would cost at
least fifteen hundred dollars a month, and that's a ninety
two percent increase. The Colorado Public Utilities Commission has also

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approved extending the operation of the Commanche cold plant, the
one down in southern Colorado I just mentioned, but at
the same time requiring utilities to invest in completely overhauling
the transmission lines to harden against wildfires, and so they
can connect the new transmission lines to new solar and
wind farms. Now, those are unavoidable fixed costs that amount

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to hundreds of millions of dollars. They're going to be
passed on to consumers whether the demand grows or doesn't grow.
So the policy in Colorado creates a destructive spiral for
those least able to afford it. Now, if you're at
least able to afford it, you either end up homeless

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or you pack up and go somewhere else. Now what
does that do to the average cost of a home?
You pack up and leave, so somebody you know runs in,
picks up that house, turns it into a rent property
or an airbnb. So affluent coloradins well, they can afford that.
So that's going to drive up housing costs, and you'll

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have fewer tax people to spread the tax burden around
because those people went to a state that doesn't do
this kind of insanity. And I know I'm picking on Colorado,
and I know it applies to your state too. It's
just that you know, I can't do all fifty seven states.
By the way, somebody said, you keep mentioning fifty seven states.
We only have fifty?

Speaker 1 (34:48):
Is that right?

Speaker 2 (34:49):
Because Barack Obama told us back in twenty thirteen that
he had visited all fifty seven states. I've got seven
more to go. I've just got to find them. Lower
income families in Colorado that can't afford to install a
heat pump, They'll remain on the gas system, and they'll
end up paying increasingly higher bills to cover both the

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stranded costs of maintaining the pipelines that are now serving
fewer customers and the utility subsidies for their wealthier neighbors
getting electrified. So that will start a cycle, and as
that cycle continues, the gas rates will continue to increase
for the remaining customers, accelerating the exit of the next

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tier of affordability. So the ultimate outcome, do I have
to spell it out? A regressive transfer of wealth from
poor to affluent households, all justified in the name of
climate policy. There's one Colorado community that illustrates this clearly.

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Atmost Energy projected that a town called Gunnison. It's a
beautiful city in the southwestern all around beautiful town. The
residents would face more than twelve hundred dollars annual increases
from forced electrification, and then in smaller communities with limited scale,
the per household cost burden becomes even more severe. It

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becomes even worse. So when we look at people moving
from state to state, Yes, it's economics. But why don't
the politicians recognize that. Oh, because they still want to
impose their socialist utopia. That's why stop and thinking about
that for a while. See what's going on in your state. Hey,

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thanks for tuning into the weekend. Everybody, have a great weekend.
I'll see you next weekend.