2-28-25 - 8am - Epstein Binder Blunder and Tapper Book

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Typical government, they do one of two things.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
They either don't do what they say, or they do
something and screw it up and raised nobody thought was imaginable.
So therefore, never believe what you hear and only believe
half of what you see when it comes to the government.

Speaker 3 (00:19):
Now, let's reset this topic. We're talking about the Epstein files,
but not in a way that I think that you
would expect, because this fiasco, this cluster screw up that
occurred yesterday really bothers me. Now, somebody on the text

(00:39):
lines goober number forty four to sixty seven, says Michael,
I don't think Bongino was naive. That's why they're so
afraid of him. I don't think that any of them
are naive in the sense that they they know what
they're doing. And I think that both Cash Patel and

(01:03):
Dan Bongino, those two in particular, do understand the deep state,
the administrative state, because in both of their cases, they
have been actively involved in it. It's it's why you
had a conversation with a listener on Wednesday. We happen

(01:26):
to be at an event at an event together, and
she was, you know, she's being very flattering and it
was all, you know, causing my ego to inflate. And
she made the comment that I love the fact that
you've kind of been in that stuff and so you're
able to explain what it's really like and why things

(01:49):
do or do not happen. Well, that's what I want
to do here, Bongino and Cash Battel, and I would
say even particularly Patel, even more so than Bongino, because Bongino,
guess New York Cop I get that that's that's a
great qualification. Uh US Secret Service does expose you to

(02:14):
the deep State, but not in the sense of someone
like Cash Patil. I want to do a compare and
contrast here, because in the Secret Service, while it's part
of the administrative state, it's it's you know, and so
called independent agency within the executive branch of Service. It

(02:37):
doesn't interact in a way it interacts with other Look.
I interact with the Secret Service all the time. I
had to coordinate many things with the Secret Service all
the time, but that did not expose the Secret Service

(02:58):
to the stuff internally, other than maybe the exception of
some of the black Ops programs that would involve the
executive branch. But even then those programs operated on an
entirely different level, including the people that worked on those programs,

(03:21):
because they were of such high skill and they knew
that the nationals and the geopolitical implications of those programs
having to work efficiently and effectively in order to keep
continuity of government, continuity of operations, protection of the president,
and all the line of succession.

Speaker 1 (03:43):
All of that.

Speaker 3 (03:44):
So it was an entirely different kind of atmosphere, if
that makes any sense to you. Whereas programmatically all that
kind of other stuff that I had to deal with,
Secret Service really never kind of interacted with it. Cash
Betel on the other hand, in doing the work for
the House Oversight Committee in the House Intel Committee, really

(04:06):
had to. I mean, he was dealing and uncovering all
of the Russia hoax activity, and that meant he had
to literally fight the deep state. So I don't think
it's I think fighting it and then overseeing it or

(04:32):
gives you two different perspectives. Fighting it, you're on the
outside fighting it, but then when you become the FBI director,
now you're on the inside having to maneuver it, fight it,
overcome it, destroy it, fix it, you know, reclaim your territory,
all of that stuff. Pambandi. On the other hand, now,

(04:56):
don't get me wrong, deep states, administrative states exist at
state and local level too, so as the attorney general
and as a prosecutor, yes, she had to deal with it,
but I think there's a little bit of naivety in
thinking that, oh, I've asked for this stuff, It's on
my desk, I'm going to review it. And I think, honestly,

(05:20):
I honestly don't think and I freely I may be
one wrong about this. I don't think she looked at
what she had because how could you make or she
was naive or she was orally excited about it, because
how can you make the statement that I've got I've
got the Epstein files.

Speaker 1 (05:42):
If I told you.

Speaker 3 (05:45):
That I've got the Epstein files, I would think that
if somebody told me they've got the Epstein files. Now
I'm cynicle enough that I would ask, what do you have?
But the implication is I've got I've got everything. I
don't see how she could have possibly thought she had everything,

(06:06):
because if you have two hundred and fifty four victims,
you have one hundred and fifty billion dollar. Was it
over the lifetime of the business or every year. I
forget whatever it is. It's one hundred and fifty billion
dollar business, that's not one, that's not one three ring binder.
That can't possibly. I mean, I think is some of

(06:29):
the cases I've been involved in that are at minuscule
compared to that, And I have volumes of bankers boxes
of evidenciary material.

Speaker 4 (06:40):
So I don't know.

Speaker 3 (06:40):
I think she was just over zealous and over anxious
to get something out. But I think that's a huge mistake.
It's a huge mistake because then that becomes once again
a reinforcement, just like the talk back that says, you know,
I don't believe half of what I say say or
ninety percent of what I see, or whatever your phrase

(07:03):
was that you used. It now enters the popular culture
that uh oh, we've been had again. So because only
because he's been covering it, probably more than anybody else.
Let's go back to Jesse Waters again.

Speaker 5 (07:21):
Last night on Jesse Water's primetime, Attorney General Pam Bondi
said this, what.

Speaker 6 (07:26):
You're going to see, hopefully tomorrow is a lot of
flight logs, a lot of names at a lot of information, but.

Speaker 5 (07:37):
Pretty sick What that man did, so we were looking
today to find out more about why the government's been
so suspiciously protective of Jeffrey Epstein. This afternoon, a bunch
of conservative influencers left a meeting at the White House
with binders that said the Epstein Files Phase one. Once
the binders were opened, people were able to see flight

(07:59):
recks in Epstein's Rolodex and a list of messuses.

Speaker 4 (08:04):
The messuses names.

Speaker 5 (08:05):
Were blacked out, and the information from the flight logs
wasn't new.

Speaker 4 (08:09):
Neither was the rolodex.

Speaker 5 (08:11):
When we began to feel duped, Pam Bondi released a
letter that says basically I was duped to. In the letter,
addressed to FBI Director Cash Mattel, Bondi basically says, I
asked you for the full and complete files related to
Jeffrey Epstein. I received two hundred pages of documents. I
asked if these were all the documents, and the FBI

(08:32):
said yes. Late yesterday I learned from a source at
the FBI Field office in New York was in possession
of thousands of pages of documents related to the investigation
and the indictment of Epstein. Despite my repeated requests, the
FBI never disclosed the evidence of these files. Bondi's demanding
by eight am tomorrow morning that the FBI deliver everything

(08:55):
to her office, including all records, audio, video recordings, all
materials related to Epstein, and she ENSURESDJ will disclose everything.
And she's directing Patel to begin an immediate investigation into
why the FBI isn't following orders. So who's in charge
at the New York FBI Field office, who's withholding Epstein

(09:18):
docks from the Attorney General? James Denahe is running the
show there there he is.

Speaker 4 (09:24):
This is the guy who emailed.

Speaker 5 (09:25):
His whole staff to dig in after Trump took office.
And don't forget that James Comey's daughter is an assistant
US attorney for the Southern District.

Speaker 1 (09:33):
Of New York.

Speaker 5 (09:34):
She worked on the Epstein and Maxwell cases. She's kind
of knee deep in this. Epstein was facing sex trafficking
charges in Lower Manhattan.

Speaker 4 (09:43):
Where's all that paperwork?

Speaker 5 (09:45):
The FBI sees computers, surveillance videos, banking records, file cabinets,
and photographs from all of Epstein's properties in New Mexico,
the Virgin Islands, Palm Beach, and in New York. The
Justice Department also gave Epstein a sweetheart non prosecution deal
seventeen years ago. Where are those files the Bureau of Prisons?

(10:08):
Where are those files? You remember where Epstein killed himself?

Speaker 4 (10:13):
I asked Bill Barr about that.

Speaker 5 (10:15):
Why everything seemed to go wrong that night?

Speaker 7 (10:20):
When I first heard all the information and all the
coincidences here, I was suspicions.

Speaker 4 (10:24):
What were the coincidences?

Speaker 5 (10:25):
I mean, those were a lot of coincidences.

Speaker 7 (10:28):
Well, one of the cameras was out right. He was
supposed to have a cellmate. Cellmate left, They didn't replace
the cell mate, and the guards who were supposed to
check them every half hour didn't check them.

Speaker 5 (10:41):
My EMT source said he was on the scene immediately
to pull Epstein's body out to the morgue, and when
he got to the cell he saw seven people there
touching Epstein's body and moving stuff around. Trump did say
during the campaign he'd released these files, so it's not
like this came out of the blue. Jeffrey Epstein did
act as an informant to the FBI.

Speaker 4 (11:02):
Is the Bureau embarrassed?

Speaker 5 (11:04):
Is the Bureau embarrassed that they let hundreds of young
victims down? This was all happening right under everyone's noses.
Epstein was probably an intelligence asset, rumored to be working
with the Israelis, maybe this country, probably other countries. Was
he a double agent? He had dirt on everyone and

(11:25):
an act for making cash.

Speaker 4 (11:27):
And he's dead.

Speaker 5 (11:28):
So the government has no one to protect but themselves.

Speaker 3 (11:32):
Bingo, they have no one to protect but themselves and
the people that prop up the administrative state or the
deep state. Either way, I don't care which one you
call it. This is a huge blunder, A huge blunder.
Now if if you're listening and you think that my obsession,

(12:00):
which it has becomeing it, you know, the Epstein files,
I really didn't give a ratsass about. I was always curious.
I wanted to see the names. I wanted to find
out who we were protecting. But it was it was
never on the top of my list. They've now put
it on the top of my list. Because this is
a huge blunder. This is a major misstep by the

(12:22):
Attorney General in her first few weeks in office, and
it shows a naivety or an ability to be dooped
that really bugs me.

Speaker 1 (12:34):
You know, she claims to.

Speaker 3 (12:35):
Have been you know, obviously the Attorney General of Florida,
and she's been a you know, a prosecutor.

Speaker 1 (12:41):
All of those things she.

Speaker 3 (12:42):
Should she should have known when you looked over the
corner of your desk and you saw one three ring
binder that said these are the Epstein files. And then
she made a big deal about it. That was politically naive,
that was not very media savvy, and just as a
I think a first year baby lawyer, you look at

(13:03):
that and go two hundred and fifty four victims and
all we got was one three ring binder. Now you've
got my radar up, Now you've got my dander up,
and now you've got me wondering what the hell is
the FBI doing? And it's not just what the FBI
is doing in terms of who they're trying to protect,
including themselves. But if you want an example, a pure, unadulterated,

(13:31):
pristine example of what and I'm don't get me wrong,
I'm more than willing to forget Pam bondy Man unless
she hasn't learned her lesson. But I think she's learned
her lesson. But now she and Patel. We can't include
Bongino in yet because he hasn't been he hasn't been confirmed,

(13:54):
but I think, now this is like a bitch slap.
Suddenly you realize, oh, this is actually worse than we
even thought it was. Because now what really pisses me
off is that some special agent in charge in the
Southern District of New York thinks that he is the
one to make the decision about what's going to be

(14:15):
released or not released. That's not the way it works.
If I had found out now, I'm not going to
try to beat my chest here and be mister tough guy.
I'm going to tell you exactly what I think. If
I had asked when I was the Undersecretary for documents
about a particular program, and I had found out that

(14:38):
they had utterly failed to get me what I had
asked for. They were withholding documents from me, I would
have done two things. First, now hear me out before
you jumped any conclusions. The first thing I would have
done was I would have found the culprit, the one
individual that was responsible for withholding those documents, and I
would have reassigned them. I would have taken them out

(14:59):
of the position they were currently in where they would
not have the ability to do that again.

Speaker 2 (15:05):
And then.

Speaker 3 (15:08):
Don Caxoti here would have then started the proceedings to
have that federal civil servant terminated. Now, I might never
That's why I call myself a don Quixote. Might not
ever have accomplished that, but I would have started the
process because until you do that, there will never be
any accountability. How has this entered the popular culture? And

(15:35):
how's this given m to those deep state supporters that
want to see Trump fail? They give you Jimmy Kimmel.

Speaker 8 (15:44):
And then we have the Jeffrey Epstein list, which Trump
kina sorder promised to release. Attorney General Pambondi yesterday made
a big announcement. She announced the list of Epstein clients
and his flight logs would be released today at noon.

Speaker 1 (15:59):
Guess what They weren't released.

Speaker 8 (16:00):
Today and now instead they released binders full of information
everyone already had. Everything these people do is screwed up.
Last night Twitter listen. This was listened at top of
the Twitter homepage. Epstein files to unveil names on February
twenty ninth.

Speaker 3 (16:16):
This up.

Speaker 8 (16:19):
Just enough time for Trump to ban all future leap years.
It's we're going to release the list on March thirty six.
So not only didn't what they released contain any new information.
Instead of the real news meeting, instead of journalists, they
released these binders to a small group of obscure right
wing influencers. One of them is some former Miss Universe juss.

(16:42):
Another one is a former host from one American news
who was not happy with what she got.

Speaker 4 (16:47):
I share your frustration.

Speaker 6 (16:48):
You should have seen how pissed Attorney General Bondi and
FBI Director Cash Betel were in this meeting when they
were explaining to us what happened. The story here is
incredibly important that not only is Trump administration trying to
give you transparency, but that the deep state agents are.

Speaker 4 (17:04):
Trying to hide it.

Speaker 8 (17:05):
That's right, the deep state agents are trying to hide it. Well.

Speaker 3 (17:08):
First, see he just blows it off as if it's
some figment of our imagination. No, it's very real, mister Kimmel,
It's very real.

Speaker 8 (17:16):
First, the deep state agents need to go through the
documents to make sure they dot every eye and cross
out every DJT, and then they can release the documents.
You know, the fact that he's louding to is keep
conveniently forgetting that Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein.

Speaker 4 (17:31):
Were good friends.

Speaker 1 (17:32):
Is unbelievable.

Speaker 8 (17:33):
New York Magazines their profile Jeffrey Epstein back in two
thousand and two.

Speaker 1 (17:36):
This is a quote from Donald Trump.

Speaker 8 (17:38):
I know jeff for fifteen years.

Speaker 4 (17:39):
Terrific guy. He's a lot of fun to be with.

Speaker 8 (17:42):
It's even said that he likes beautiful women as much
as I do. And many of them are on the
younger side, no doubt about it. Jeffrey enjoys his social
life and they're running around with binders. Donald Trump and
Jeffrey Epstein.

Speaker 4 (17:55):
Had a party at Maro a Lago.

Speaker 1 (17:56):
They called it damn super maga.

Speaker 9 (17:58):
But if you're gonna tout that you have the Epstein
client list or whatever and then you come up empty handed,
it just makes me distrust even Trump's government. So, you know,
either s or get off the pot, man, because I'm
tired of hearing it. And if you're not going to
do things that implicate people high empower, then just forget it.

Speaker 3 (18:21):
Man.

Speaker 1 (18:22):
I'm over it.

Speaker 3 (18:28):
I don't know what to say. That's kind of what
I'm saying, except I'm still giving them the benefit of
the doubt.

Speaker 1 (18:36):
We feel the frustration for sure.

Speaker 3 (18:38):
Yeah, I just I think that I think they were dooped.
I don't think there is a deliberate effort on the
part of Bondy or Patel, or for that matter, of
the President to.

Speaker 1 (18:52):
Not release this.

Speaker 3 (18:54):
I look at it instead, and primarily because of personal experience,
because of how bad the administrative slash deep state is,
and I just think it shows a naivety on the
part of Pam Bondy about what she's up against.

Speaker 1 (19:13):
Patel.

Speaker 3 (19:16):
You see, I don't know what role he played in this,
in this particular binder, because he's obviously, you know, just
sworn into office just last week, so I don't know,
but but it shows that you can't just you can't

(19:37):
pussy foot around with them at all. You've got to
be stern, strong, adamant. You've got to you've got to
be able to walk in there like a bull in
the China closet and really break things up. Now, the
downside to this entire story is that whole Jimmy Kimmel clip,

(19:58):
because what do they do. While I don't agree with
anything he said, nonetheless he gives them the gunpowder they
need to go fire off shots at who the president
and to laugh at us. And we don't need that

(20:21):
good but number eighty six O nine, Mike. Good morning, Mike.
I'm disappointed that you're so hard on a Trump administration
so early in the game. Pam Bonny has not been
in charge less than two months something point. Give them
a chance. Ex it's doing Yeah, I see what you're doing. Uh,
Pam Bondy has not been in charge less than two months.

(20:43):
Give them a chance. Remember what it was like when
you were in charge at Katrina. So many people blamed you,
criticized you when you were trying to do your best.

Speaker 1 (20:52):
Yes, and I.

Speaker 3 (20:53):
Learned from that and other people should have learned from
that too, and for someone And this is why I'm
separating Cash Betel from Pam Bondy. Although Pam Bondi came
with Look, she's a as a former Pam Bondy as

(21:13):
a former attorney general of one of the largest states
in the country, which has a lot of criminal activity
that they have to deal with that involves the cartels,
international drug trafficking, sex trafficking, everything. Florida is a hotbed
for that kind of stuff. She was a freaking attorney general,
so she should know from a pure I guess I'm

(21:37):
saying too a first year lawyer.

Speaker 1 (21:42):
If he said, if he was told, look, you're going to.

Speaker 3 (21:49):
You're going to prosecute a case that has two hundred
and fifty four victims of sexual abuse, rape molestation. I mean,
every possible sex striving can think of two hundred and
fifty four victims. My first thought, if you had to
meet one three ring binder would be where are the
other two hundred and fifty three binders? Because even as

(22:15):
a first year lawyer, baby lawyer, and you told me
you had two hundred and fifty four victims, you had
to be one three ring binder, I would be like,
where are the other two hundred and fifty three for
the other two and fifty three victims? And I also
look at that one binder and say, for one victim,
you've got one binder? What the hell's in there? Where

(22:38):
is where's the box that contains the hard drives? Where's
the box that contains the bank records? Where's the box
that contains you know, everything? Unless you're gonna show me
that in three ring binder, there are you know, twenty
five thund drives that contain all of everything. It's horribly disappointing.

(23:01):
Now the fact that you're disappointed, I'm being so hard
I'm being hard because you can't start out this way, not.

Speaker 1 (23:09):
After all of the promises that have been made.

Speaker 3 (23:13):
Instead, instead of telling me that you're disappointed about me
being hard, you ought to be upset that, hey you
can you cannot play this game this way.

Speaker 10 (23:24):
You know.

Speaker 3 (23:25):
Part of me thinks too that Pam BONDI. You know,
and this is the problem with so called influencers. I
know that you want to get your message out on
X and all the other social media platforms, and I
completely understand that. Look, I was trying to get my
message out during Katrina on every outlet that I can
possibly fine, But at the same time, you've got to

(23:49):
be damn sure you're right. And they totally blew that.
And that's probably the most frustrating thing to me is they.

Speaker 1 (24:01):
Just blew it.

Speaker 3 (24:02):
So anyway, you can be mad at me for being critical,
But if we're gonna put if if you and I
are going to bury our heads in the sand because
we don't want to be seen as being critical, then
you're not giving them, and by them, I mean this
current administration. You're not giving them enough credit to say, hey,

(24:27):
we fed it up and we're going to fix it.

Speaker 1 (24:31):
And that's what I'm doing.

Speaker 3 (24:33):
But I'm trying to explain to all of.

Speaker 1 (24:34):
You that this is much bigger than just who was
on that list.

Speaker 3 (24:41):
In fact, to me, it's become more important now that
they clean up the Southern District of New York, and
that FBI office is located in Lower Manhattan, and that
they get rid of that special agent in charge and
they start cleaning house.

Speaker 1 (24:56):
I still want the files. I still want to know who.

Speaker 3 (24:59):
The governments covering up for all these years. I still
want to know what all that, all those dirty little
things going on. I still want all that exposed. But
the more important thing now is you need to wake
up and see how bad it is.

Speaker 2 (25:17):
Now.

Speaker 3 (25:17):
Remember yesterday when I talked about the Jake Tapper book. Uh,
I forget what the title of it was, but it
was something about, you know, the hiding of Biden's cognitive decline.

Speaker 4 (25:28):
It was something similar to OJ's book.

Speaker 3 (25:30):
If I did it, yeah, yeah, if I were mentally ill,
if I had to mensor Alzheimer's. There's a guy named
Michael E. Rossa who was Joe Biden's press secretary.

Speaker 1 (25:42):
He was, but he was more than that. He was
actually a close confidant of the entire family. He was
speaking with.

Speaker 3 (25:53):
Tara Palmarriot at American University's signed Institute of Policy and
Politics on Jake tap new book, and he says, well,
hang on, let me just start first with some audio
about what he said. Let me where did I have
it here? It is Nope, it's over on YouTube. Take

(26:14):
a listen. We'll break this up a little bit.

Speaker 11 (26:17):
Listen to this video. There's a new book that just
came out. It is called and he laughs, Original Sin.
It's by Jake Tapper and Alex Thompson. And the book
premise is that it's an unsparing look at Biden's quote decline,
it's cover up and his disastrous choice to run again

(26:40):
that led to a campaign of quote gaslighting and denial.
Because you work so closely with the family and Jill Biden,
do you think this is an accurate representation of what
happened in twenty twenty four?

Speaker 4 (26:52):
Cover up, to me is a little hard, a little harsh.

Speaker 10 (26:59):
Every politician, everybody, every human being tries to cover up age.
We were always from day one cognizant that age was
going to age was an issue. Well, would say, there
are some things that aren't true. I mean like the
gas lighting. There was a lot of denial of the polling.

(27:19):
And I will use the term gaslight because that's what
they were doing the campaign. Former colleagues, the message to
everybody was to make sure that you tell people.

Speaker 4 (27:29):
It's too early.

Speaker 10 (27:29):
It's too early. These polls don't mean anything. Well, it
became too early, and these poles don't mean anything for
about a year and a half.

Speaker 4 (27:36):
The polls, so the numbers never moved.

Speaker 10 (27:39):
And by denying the data that was at there publicly,
by denying the really insightful journalism that you know, they
were actually demeaning a lot of the people.

Speaker 3 (27:51):
And but they were actually demeaning the people that were
trying to report. Now who were those people? Oh yes,
that was conservative media trying to point a look right
in front of your eyes. All you have to do
is look at it, if you'll just open your eyes
and just see with your own eyes. Now. He later

(28:12):
claims in this video that he was most bothered by
the data denial, rather than being upset about the machinations
of a handful of senior White House staff that were
deliberately trying to hide Biden's cognitive decline from you and me.
White House Debuty Chief of staff, Annie Thomasini, Anthony Bernall,

(28:33):
and Ashley Williams, all staffers had close ties to Jill Biden,
but working for the president, they literally formed a protective
bubble around Joe Biden and they shielded him even from
his own cabinet secretaries. Now, in this video, Paul Mary
goes on to press Lorosa if he was concerned about

(28:53):
Biden about his advanced age about him running for reelection
in twenty twenty four, to which he very just bluntly
and simply responds.

Speaker 1 (29:04):
Uh, yeah, yes, it was.

Speaker 2 (29:07):
It was.

Speaker 10 (29:08):
It was the data denial that really bothered me, because
we loved pulling when we were running because we were
always ahead all of a sudden because they're always behind,
the polls are meaningless.

Speaker 4 (29:20):
And they were attacking The New York Times.

Speaker 10 (29:24):
They did do a lot of gaslighting of people, and
I think if you were watching MSNBC, you probably believed them, and.

Speaker 4 (29:33):
We're probably pretty shocked.

Speaker 10 (29:35):
But if you were, if you were consuming information, consuming
data and looking at it objectively and trying to interpret
it and process it objectively, then none of it was surprising.

Speaker 3 (29:50):
Wow, quite in admission inside they knew. Now I am
I still don't want to buy Jake Tipper's book because
he was complicit in doing the cover up too. So
I'll probably wait. I'll read excerpts, I'll read reviews of

(30:10):
the book.

Speaker 1 (30:11):
But I want it. I wanted someone from the inside.
I want him.

Speaker 3 (30:18):
I want the Rosa or one of these other staffers
to write the definitive book about here's what we observed,
here's what we saw, because I think it's one of
the hugest, one of the largest scandals in US history.

Speaker 1 (30:35):
Good morning, goobers. Well how about that disappointment yesterday.

Speaker 3 (30:41):
What are you gonna do? Well?

Speaker 4 (30:45):
I mean we could dress up like Indians and start
throwing things in the harbor.

Speaker 1 (30:50):
Yeah, anyway, Happy Friday.

Speaker 3 (30:54):
Worked at one point in time. Hit By work Again.
Depends on what we're throwing in the heart. Maybe we
need to I better not say that, Better not say
what's on my mind.

Speaker 1 (31:08):
Bow the hell with it.

Speaker 3 (31:10):
Maybe we just need to tie some people up and
throw them in the harbor. I just want to see
dragging back their cringe.

Speaker 10 (31:18):
Everybody knew you were going there, but yeah, you just
had to make it completely obvious by saying it.

Speaker 3 (31:27):
I would never do that. Well, I don't know looking
up across the top of my computer. I might do
it someday, but then i'd have help, because Missus Redbeard
would help me do it too. She'll do the heavy
lifting for you. She'll she'll have you tied up and
ready to go. All I gotta do is just throw
you in the back of the jeep and back up
to the dock and just boom, push you over. You'll

(31:50):
already be dead anyway, so it's not like I'm doing
the killing. I'm just I'm just disposing of the body.
That's all I would be doing.

Speaker 11 (31:57):
So back to mister Macrosa, Okay, can I just ask
you bluntly?

Speaker 4 (32:03):
Sorry, I'm not goin.

Speaker 11 (32:05):
Are you concerned about him running for reelection in twenty twenty?

Speaker 3 (32:09):
Let me can't ask you, Blundy. You know you're you're
you're a part of the inner circle. Were you concerned
about Joe Biden running again? Yes?

Speaker 1 (32:16):
And I'll say this, yes, Oh yeah.

Speaker 3 (32:22):
I think what fascinates me is how quickly, and I
think there's a reason for this is how quickly this
is all coming to light. And you know why, because
it's not like his decline just started. Say in, oh,
I don't know. June when he had that first debate
June of twenty twenty four. No, this started back in

(32:44):
twenty twenty. They just they this is a this is
a release of a pent up desire to tell the truth.

Speaker 4 (32:53):
When I got to the White House on day one,
it became pretty clear to me.

Speaker 3 (32:59):
You know.

Speaker 10 (32:59):
I think I went in first of all, I was
just happy to be there, excited, and I used to
drive my boss home every night, my chief is staff,
because we lived just in the same building. And I
remember him saying something that, well, that's after the re
elect that's after that's a second term thing.

Speaker 4 (33:16):
I said, wait, what, I think you believed the bridge?
I think, well, it wasn't that I believed the bridge.

Speaker 10 (33:22):
It was just that I just assumed, kind of like
Barack Obama probably assumed he was picking Biden knowing he
or thinking he wasn't going to run again. I kind
of thought, you know, in twenty twenty point one, that
this was going to be like, Okay, We're going to
pass the torch to another generation of Democrats and let
them handle a Trump two point zero campaign. But I was,

(33:46):
I was, you know, brought to reality pretty fast, like
why not, why wouldn't he.

Speaker 4 (33:53):
Run yeah, why why not? It was why wouldn't he?

Speaker 10 (33:55):
I'm like, well, because it felt like in twenty twenty
that we barely won the nomination, that Democrats were kind
of not yearning for Joe Biden.

Speaker 4 (34:06):
They were kind of either stuck with.

Speaker 10 (34:08):
Him or they were eating their vegetables and saying, he's
our best shot. Not a socialist from Vermont, he's our
best shot. We're comfortable with him.

Speaker 1 (34:15):
He's kin see it goes back.

Speaker 3 (34:19):
Even before he gets the nomination, they all had questions.
We wasted four years of this nation's history. Although I
think in hindsight, I think it was good for Trump.
I really do. I think we have a version two
point zero that would have been much better than a

(34:41):
version one point one