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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Main downside for being half awake when the show starts
at four am up here is that I now have
no context to a conversation involving Bennett Polis and sperm racing.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Thanks, guys, we aim to confuse if it's four am
when the show starts with this man is he in Alaska?
He is in Alaska? Girl dad and he yeah, Alaska, yep. Yeah,
Well John Caldera started it. I'm just gonna blame him,
the previous substitute teacher that was yesterday. Michael Brown's your
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normal professor here, and you tune in and you're part
of the class and he instructs you, and he's a
good teacher, and I guess Dragon would be his graduate.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Assistant that you would serve in that.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Role that everybody loves more than the Yeah, they want
to go to your recitation sessions for those that went
to college and know what that is.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
So there'd be these breakout sessions, right. So you go
to the main lecture hall class and there's Michael Brown
who and you just what you should think, don't do
this and do that, and then you ah, I don't
know about any of that, and you buy the textbook
and of course, Michael Brown.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Wrote it because I'm not gonna teach anything. Anybody else
wrote this is the Constitution.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
But then dragon in a separate classroom, you know, you
break down like a lecture hall class at two hundred
into like maybe twenty, and then he would go over
the details with you and being a good teacher, which
I know, the dragon is Oh okay, and now that
makes more sense and you have a chance to kind
of figure things out. I think we need a recitation
session for Alaskandebt because yeah, there's a lot that goes
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on here, and if you're not here with your head
on a swivel ready to go, you're gonna get lost.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
You're gonna miss a whole lot, gonna miss a lot.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
So John John caldera Independence Institute, he gets a little
uneasy when I I think I called him like the founder.
Oh no, wow, Ryan, I am simply the.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
President holding down the fort.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
And usually I can get John to go off on
tangents on one of the following things. Pop culture television,
which would mean Star Trek, Star Trek or Gilligan's Island
or anything from like the sixties through mid seventies, or similarly,
that era of music. He's a big Beatles fan, for instance.
I'll come back and he'll have like a whole story
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to tell. John's one of those guys you kind of
wind him up and let him go, and he's full
of very interesting anecdotes and I love tapping into those
when he fills in, sometimes for Dan and sometimes here
Ryan schuling midweek for you.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
I got you into the nine o'clock hour.
Speaker 4 (02:45):
I'm doing my part, and I hate to pat myself
on the back, but nice job, Ry, good job.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
We're almost there. Michael Brown be back tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (02:56):
Now you gotta figure who was the bigger draw for
a speech and hit cago yesterday because there were two
to choose from. Was it Michael Brown or Joe Biden?
Now who is more coherent? That would be another one.
You can submit your vote thirty three one oh three,
and we will welcome back Michael upon his return. I
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know he's always very grateful and thankful and even wistful
when he talks about me filling in for him when
he comes back. If he talks about me at all, now,
well I know what happens a lot of time. Not
my first rodeo, the talkbackers, the texters, they'll all say, oh, Michael,
we're so glad you're back, or they'll give him a
hard time that goober's shooling he was better.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
Than you, and be like, I don't think he was accurate.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
I appreciate you guys texting in and calling on the
talkback feature. I love that Dragon's so good at turning
those around, so be sure to utilize that function as well.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
I love this text because this goes to my main point.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
And if I were advising somebody running for state wide
office in Colorado or as a Republican basically anywhere else,
this is where I would go with it. Textas says Ryan,
that's the difference between the illegals and legal The legal
aliens follow the law of which I am one.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Thank you, yes, And that's the thing.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
As the son of an immigrant, first generation American, there
is nobody who has more reverence for that, or takes
that more seriously, or does not take that for granted
to the degree that I do. I love legal immigration.
It's a beautiful thing about this country. We are a
melting pot, all kinds of cultures coming together to form
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the American culture, to live the American dream.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
And for those who come here legally, that want.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
To pursue that, that want to roll up their sleeves
and get to work and contribute to our economy and
to our society, and speak English and become part of
the American culture, embrace our customs, our values, become Americans.
That was the dream. That was the dream. Not to
bring whatever baggage you were leaving behind with you bring
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foreign flags to this country and wave them and then
go back if you're waving that flag, go back. If
you come here and you're like, I can't stand Venezuela,
it's a communist dictatorship. I want to be an American.
I want to do it the right way. Show me
how to do it. Believe me, I would provide the roadmap.
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They're all kinds of tremendous, inspiring, uplifting immigrant stories in
this country. But what it has turned into, unfortunately, is
a system where people kirk flowing across the border, unvetted, unchecked,
without any steak in the game, any skin in the game.
There's got to be something in it for you. Sure,
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you're coming here, you're coming here to be an American,
but you've got to give something in return. This is
a compact this is a contract. This isn't a cord
that you are making. Read to be an American citizen,
to live the American dream, to contribute.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
What I can my skills. You have to give something
to get someone to know.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
We have several that are many that are coming over
here hand out, aided and embedded by Democrats. Here are
your government programs that you do not pay into that
American taxpayers are paying for Medicare, Medicaid. How are these
illegals so many of them getting Social Security numbers. They're
not filing taxes legally, they're not on W two's. They're
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being paid under the table at cut rate wages that
undermine the American worker. Anybody that's part of a labor
union that might have been traditionally a Democrat.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
Should be infuriated by that.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
And the immigrants themselves are being abused and used by
the Democratic Party, and the Left taken advantage of put
into these menial task labor jobs that only they can
fill there beneath the average American. That's how the left feels,
that's how they talk of it. They diminish and denigrate
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and disrespect.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
And condescend to.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
These people that are coming into this country illegally and
have no other recourse.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
They can't join a union, theory illegal.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
Their very status shackles them in this country, prevents them
from truly living out the American dream. And it all
starts by how they cross the border. And yeah, if
you didn't come here legally, it's time to go. So
when I see on CNN the left the story that
continues about Kilmar Abrago Garcia, this is maddening. Scott Jennings
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commented about this the other night on CNN. Here is
Senator Chris van Holland, Maryland. He was nowhere to be
found when Rachel Morn was raped and murdered by a
Venezuelan illegal in this country. Not a peep from this guy.
But now he's going to El Salvador.
Speaker 5 (07:59):
I'm here the airport. I'm about to board my flight
for San Salvador. The goal of this mission is to
let the Trump administration, to let the government of Al
Salvador know that we are going to keep fighting to
bring Albrego Garcia home until he returns to his family.
I hope to meet with representatives of the government. I
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hope to have the chance to actually see Kilmark.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
And see what his condition is.
Speaker 5 (08:26):
But we are going to keep fighting because this is
a miscarriage of justice. This Supreme Court has ruled nine
to zero, nine to zero that he was illegally taken
out of the country. No put in a prison in
Al Salvador. And this is about due process, This is
about rule of law. What bullies do is they begin
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by picking on the most vulnerable.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
But if we get rid of the rule of law.
Speaker 5 (08:53):
Due process the United States, it's a short road from
there to tyranny.
Speaker 6 (08:58):
Okay, hm, wow, Chris van Holland, there the Senator from Maryland,
was Rachel morn vulnerable?
Speaker 4 (09:12):
Did she need to die? A person who was in
this country illegally raped and murdered her. He did not care,
Senator Chris van Holland. At least he didn't go on
public records talking about it. And now he is so
committed to this cause of killar Abrego Garcia, a native
of l Salvador, who was in this country illegally, who
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had reputed ties to MS thirteen, who was a citizen
of El Salvador and El Salvador alone. Buddy, you buy
the ticket, you take the ride, you come here illegally,
you run that risk. You roll those dice, you could
come up snake eyes. If you're found out, you get
got and you have to leave. I don't care what
brought you here, what your sob story was. Why didn't
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kill mar Abrego Garcia enter this country legally? That's the question.
And the Supreme Court did not rule on the merits.
They were ruling on the process, this whole due process thing.
I'll get into that in just a second. Mark Levin
made a great point about this last night. He was
living in Maryland as an illegal alien resident of that state.
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He is not a marilynd manned as he's being portrayed
in the media. Apparently he has a mother of his children,
et cetera.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
That's tough.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
But when the responsibility lies at the feet of kilmar
Abrago Garcia, if he wanted to be an American, there
was a way to do that.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
He didn't do that. He dropped the ball.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
It's his fault, it's his responsibility, nobody else's. Plus the
Mark Levin point, there are two outcomes to this so
called due process that are abused all the time by
illegals in this country.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
And the first one is.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
You are given this kind of perfunctory court of apparents. Ah,
you know, it's a go ahead and enter the country.
This is the Joe Biden policy, and ya go wherever
you want. But here we're going to hand you this
this court date, show up, and then we'll adjudicate your
asylum claim. First of all, there is no asylum from
El Salvador. That's not a thing. That is not a
hostile country from which we are granting asylum to assi
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lees pursuing that here in the United States fleeing from L.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
Salvador.
Speaker 4 (11:23):
They have a democratically elected leader who is, by the way,
doing a very good job of cleaning up crime in
that country. But it's not a hostile communist dictatorial regime.
Asylum from El Salvador is not a thing unless Kilmara
Bregel Garcia has a criminal record in L. Salvador, which
is none of our business. When in Rome, if he
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committed crimes there as an L. Salvador native according to
their laws, even if we don't agree.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
With them, so be it.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
We don't go around dictating terms of how other countries
can rule on their own citizens.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
Nor should we. But then you have this court hearing
that an.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
Illegal alien never shows up for if it never is adjudicated,
and they just live permanently in the United States with
illegal status as long as they can get away with it.
That's point one point two. And this one is even
more mind numbing. They are assigned to court date, they
do show up for the asylum hearing, they're denied their
asylum claim, and they just stay anyway.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
They don't leave.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
They're not forced to leave, they're not escorted out of
the country. They're told to leave, and they don't to
say that there's no due process here, buddy, you skip
due process when you entered this country illegally.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
There was no adjudication.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
There's been several pursuits of this individual, and in two
separate courts they ruled that he had plausible ties to.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
MS thirteen plus.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
Again on top of it, I'll forget all that sideline,
all that he is here in this country illegally.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
That's the end of the game. Do not pass. Go
go back to l SA Albador. That's it. Here's Tom Cotton.
Speaker 4 (13:03):
In a post on x and he quote tweets this
Senator Chris van Holland ridiculous propaganda video. I'm going to
stay there for a while see what President Bukeley tells you.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
I'm sure, I'm sure. Oh you know what you talked
me into it. Here you go, here's Kilmar take them away.
Speaker 4 (13:21):
Senator Cotton says, to be clear, he is talking about
an illegal alien from El Salvador. This illegal alien is
now in his home country, El Salvador, where he belongs,
and Senate Democrats want to bring the illegal alien back
to America.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
Incredible.
Speaker 4 (13:36):
Well, it's very credible because this is what the Democrats
stand for now. They are open borders. They do not
want to enforce the border. Now, there are some that
are talking out of both sides of their mouths now
because they know it's such a wildly unpopular issue. Here's
the thing, and Dan talked about this on his show yesterday.
It's not just criminal illegal aliens. According to polling CBS
and others, not just right wing polling either, mind you.
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Polling shows that sixty three percent of Americans favor the
deportation of all illegal aliens, whether they've committed an extra
crime here or not.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
They're here illegally.
Speaker 4 (14:13):
According to that CBS U Go poll, nearly two thirds
of Americans favor the deportation of anyone here illegally, much
broader definition. If their Democrat stance, at least the plausible
one from the center left. We go, well, they're here illegally,
but they haven't broken any other laws.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
No harm, no fault.
Speaker 4 (14:32):
No, you cannot open the door to that. Once you
say it's okay to green light that type of behavior,
then there's no disincentive to cross the border illegally. Come
on over, get your benefits, have your hands out, don't
contribute anything, be a leech on society. You just live
off the government dime and vote Democrat. Let's go to
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the text thirty three one zero three more of those.
This one says the best speaker in Chicago yesterday was Brownie,
and he was more coherent. We made the joke that
both Michael Brown and Joe Biden were scheduled to speak
in Chicago at separate conferences yesterday. I had joked that
Brownie was going to be opening for Joe Biden. But
I have to imagine it went better for Michael Brown
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than Joe Biden. We played those highlights earlier, they weren't
exactly highlights.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Only one of them pooped their pants. It's for you
to determine which one.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
Oh boy, Michael having issues lately. He's an old man.
He did have all Zilda's biden But you know.
Speaker 4 (15:34):
Well he posted Michael Brown did on his Facebook about
having a pizza from this place where he talked to
Mate or d into getting them a table ahead of
every body. Aye? What makes him think he can skip
ahead of the line, not make a reservation, just show
up like.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
That former mister undersecretary. He just threw that ved around.
He dropped that. Don't you know who I am? Now?
Speaker 4 (15:54):
I like it when you do the impression. Kelly, do
you have a Michael Brown impression? Can you impersonate Michael Dane?
Speaker 7 (16:00):
Oh my gosh, no, how come I give it a shot?
Speaker 3 (16:07):
Michael mac that's your impression?
Speaker 7 (16:11):
I don't know. That's what I usually call him.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
You call him that, yeah, Michael, Michael?
Speaker 7 (16:18):
Now, but I can see him talking himself into a
piece of lax.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
And he did. He did.
Speaker 4 (16:27):
I always trying to envision and I get no joy
from this, believe me. The conversation that he must have
had with George W.
Speaker 8 (16:34):
Bush. You're doing a heck of job, Brownie. But somebody's
got to take the fall for hur Kane. Katrina we
need you to fall in that grenade. I want to
know exactly how that went.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
I know it's maybe a sore subject, but this is
how I bonded with Michael Brown right out of the
gate when I started producing this program, when it was
two to four. I remember distinctly in the mid two
thousands watching his testimony about Katrina in the aftermath, the
handling of that, and just how on point and prepared
he was. This is not a guy who didn't have
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things under control. You got to read his book, too,
Deadly Indifference. I believe it's called if I'm not mistaken,
And as Kelly has a signed book thanks to somebody
in this room.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
His initials are Ryan Schuling.
Speaker 7 (17:20):
Excuse me, yes, yes, oh God, excuse the hell out
right now? Do we have to revisit this story?
Speaker 3 (17:28):
Wait, is a great story. It is the origin story
for you on this very station and the Lord.
Speaker 7 (17:36):
Yeah, yeah, it wasn't you.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
It was all me.
Speaker 7 (17:40):
It was not you.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
I take full credit. And the music's playing us out.
But I'm not backing down from this. I will I
will die on this hill. But yeah, you got to
read the book. And the Governor Louisiana at the time
school Bus Ray Nagan remember him from the Rush Limbaugh program.
They weren't listening. They were not listening to Michael Brown.
There's nothing that he could have done. The book is
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Deadly Indifference, The Perfect Political Storm, Hurricane Katrina, The Bush,
White House, and Beyond.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
Find it on Amazon, written by Michael D.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
Brown.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
Ryan hot take. The Beatles were totally overrated.
Speaker 9 (18:18):
So were the Stones. The music of that era was
nowhere near as great as the music of the seventies
like Boston and Journey.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
Just saying that is a take.
Speaker 4 (18:36):
It is a hot one, and it's from one of
our talkbackers. I love the Beatles, but I can completely
understand the viewpoint that they are overrated.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
I mean, how could they not be.
Speaker 4 (18:47):
They are one of the most celebrated rock music bands
of all times, so it's a very highly established bar.
There was a deleted scene, I think it was a
deleted scene from Pulp Fiction where umu Ihrman's character asks
John Travolta's character if he's an Elvis guy or a
Beatles guy, which one are you?
Speaker 3 (19:07):
Dragon?
Speaker 10 (19:07):
Go?
Speaker 4 (19:07):
You only get to pick one. I know, I know,
Oh Kelly, I'll go to you first. I'll liket dragon
think about Elvis or Beatles? Which one are you?
Speaker 7 (19:17):
Elvis?
Speaker 3 (19:17):
Okay, it's Elvis? And why why would you say Elvis?
Speaker 7 (19:20):
Because I don't like the Beatles, so.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
It's a default choice. No, I like you do you
like Elvis? Okay? What it is about Elvis? What makes
the king of rock and roll stand out to you?
Speaker 7 (19:30):
First of all, the young Elvis was hot, Oh.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
Yeah, gorgeous man.
Speaker 7 (19:35):
And uh I do like you know hound Dog and
some of the earlier songs. But he was also very
well in his flatter years.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
Suspicious Minds is my favorite.
Speaker 7 (19:51):
Suspicious everything. Well, you know, well, when your mother was passing,
he often played.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
His the Hens Well.
Speaker 7 (20:08):
Yes, sported.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
I'm glad you brought that up. My mom was the
biggest all of his fan ever was.
Speaker 7 (20:13):
And those were some of the best songs he ever
has recorded.
Speaker 4 (20:18):
The last This is tough for me, but my mom
passed in November of twenty twenty two, and I saw
her in this sterile hospital room that was gray and
dark and silent, and you know, she was still somewhat
coherent at that time, Like, I'm not letting her go
out like this, So I went and got her a
little boombox and her favorite, as Kelly just put it
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Elvis Presley gospel songs. That was her favorite was when
Elvis sang gospel songs and piquet Your podcast co host
Kelly recently interviewed a police officer who knew Elvis Presley
personally and well, oh, he had some great stories, including
a ride along that Elvis did as they were pulling
over a drug dealer. The guy, the cop tells, Elvis,
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we brought you along for this, but it's a high
security situation. You're Elvis Presley, you got to stay in
the car. Elvis not only got out of the car,
he comes up to the drug dealer who's pulled over
that carcase.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
Get out of the car right now, you know.
Speaker 4 (21:21):
And the drug dealer obviously recognized Elvis Presley was so
excited he immediately like de escalated. It's like, I just
had my picture taken with Elvis Presley. I need your autograph, Elvis.
Here's another part of that story. Elvis was packing heat.
He had a gun on him at the time. Elvis
was a big gun enthusiast. As many people know. Remember
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he shot his TV because he do you remember why
he shot his TV?
Speaker 7 (21:46):
Because he couldn't change his channel.
Speaker 4 (21:48):
Now, I'm sure Elvis had the state of the art
remote control as it existed in.
Speaker 7 (21:52):
The No, there wasn't any remote control. We were the
remote Have.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
You seen Graceland? Have you been there? His entertainment center
for the mid seventies was way ahead of its time. Anyway.
Speaker 4 (22:05):
It was Bob Goolay who was on the TV. I
think he was on Carson. He just couldn't stand him
for summery. I think he had, I don't know, had
an affair with a woman that made Elvis mad. It
was something like that, but no, Elvis had a gun
on it. He wanted to be a cop, kind of
like you know Shaquille O'Neal wanted to be a sheriff
at one point.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
And Elvis was just thrilled.
Speaker 4 (22:25):
This is the throw of his life that he could
go on this actual kind of arrest chase with this
police officer who worked right here in the Denver Metro
and Elvis another thing that he did with this cop
who would also work I think security on the road
with Elvis for some of his appearances. He asked Elvis,
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if you could do anything here, Elvis Presley, right, you can,
what would you want to do other than you know,
obviously be a cop.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
That was one of them.
Speaker 4 (22:52):
Just go to a restaurant, That's what he said. Think
about it. You're Elvis Presley. He could not go to
a restaurant be a woman pawing at him, pulling his
hair out, like I'm sorry, Kelly, but these women your
kind were unhinged in Elvis's presence.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
They couldn't control themselves.
Speaker 4 (23:10):
I mean, he was literally in danger because they were
so like amorous toward him. He couldn't just sit down
at a restaurant, order a steak and have a meal.
And so he finally got a chance to do that here.
And when he did it, he dressed up as a
police officer. So he's there and he goes to the
bathroom a couple times, and these women at another table
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are looking at him like he looks familiar that cop.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
Doesn't he look like something?
Speaker 4 (23:34):
They couldn't figure it out, and Elvis saw them kind
of their wheels turning, and finally he couldn't handle it anymore.
Like the third time he goes by to him, he gives,
you know, the Elvis kind of sneer smiles, like how
you ladies do it? And oh my god, it's Elvis Presley.
So even in that moment, he's like, oh, wait a minute,
they don't recognize me. I gotta let him know to
so many great stories. If you want to find that podcast,
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I'll I'll put it up. I'll send that out.
Speaker 7 (23:57):
But in the same respect, not you know women. Also,
before we were throwing bras at poison in the eighties, right,
we were like falling all over the Beatles. Yea, and
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I my sister is a huge Beetles.
Speaker 4 (24:24):
As am I as you are, as is John Caldera.
Speaker 7 (24:29):
Yes, John Caldera is another. I just I don't get it.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
I'm you didn't get Beatlemania.
Speaker 7 (24:36):
I did not see.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
My mom was Elvis.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
My dad was certainly Beatles. My mom also preferred the
Rolling Stones.
Speaker 7 (24:41):
Was different. Your dad did everything, he listened to a
lot of difference.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
Well, he liked the Beatles, Jimmy Hendrix, Eric Clapton.
Speaker 7 (24:50):
Yeah, definitely, Jimmy Hendricks, Zeppelin.
Speaker 4 (24:53):
And he's still alive. So I still talked to him
about these things. But he liked Elvis like I do.
But he loved the Beatles, and my mom preferred the
Rolling Stones to the Beatles. My dad preferred the Beatles
to the Rolling Stones. So Dragon, you've had time to
think about it, Elvis or Beatles and why Beatles?
Speaker 3 (25:07):
Okay, so you're with me on that one.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
Yeah, not to give a slight to Elvis for dying,
but most of.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
The Beatles are still alive. We haven't and still working.
Speaker 4 (25:23):
Have you? Ringo Star, This guy is what eighty four
got to be close up there, yet he looks amazing.
Ringo Star looks like sixty four, Widow's sixty four and
Paul's still rocking to your point, that's a yeah, he's
up there.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
He's past eighty now.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
And not that I think that Elvis couldn't continue to work,
but he did, so there there's more funness for a
dead guy. Like when you think of Nirvana and Kurt
Cobain and Jimmy Hendrix and you think those guys were great.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
Well, were they great because they.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
Died young and you know, burned out quickly or would
they continue to be great for the longevity of their lives?
Speaker 1 (26:06):
Well?
Speaker 3 (26:06):
Who's to say?
Speaker 4 (26:07):
Both members of the twenty seven club, these musicians, who
all these musicians? Amy Winehouse has another one died at
the age of twenty seven Jim Morrison. Another one, Elvis,
if he were alive, would have just turned ninety January eighth,
nineteen thirty five with his birth year. Now, fight to
guess I might know the answer to this, because I
think I might have asked Michael Brown this question before.
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If you asked him Elvis or Beatles, he say Elvis, right,
I would, And Kelly's shaking her head.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
Yes, Maybe ask him that tomorrow. Yeah, we'll do good.
Lead in.
Speaker 4 (26:36):
He seems like an Elvis guy. But I could be wrong,
but I think I'm right. I know he's a Yankees fan,
and I still like him. Anyway, Let's go to your
text three to three one zero three.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
Two things.
Speaker 4 (26:50):
First, One, I would love for Dan Kaplis to run,
but his wife is on the opposite side of the
aisle from him, and I don't know if that would
go over well with voters or his wife. I think
it would actually be a tremendous asset to Dan in
a political campaign to say, hey, look, the woman of
my dreams, the love of my life is a lifelong
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Democrat and she loves me. You know, I can't be
that bad. So if they try to demonize Dan Kaplis, First,
of all, good luck with that. He's a good guy,
but they're going to try to marginalize him because of
his conservative views on marijuana and on abortion. Those would
be two in particular, I think that stand out that
would not be popular overall in the state of Colorado.
But the job that Dan would have to do politically
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is to just acknowledge those. He's not going to do
an about face on either one of those, that's fine,
but just say that he respects the laws that are
on the books of the state as they are right now,
that he would work to overturn them. But he's got
to win hearts and minds, and it starts with his
scubmentatorial race, and he wants to do what's best for
Coloraden's and focus on those bread and butter kitchen table
eighty twenty issues that a lot of unaffiliateds are disaffected
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with a Democratic Party on that includes illegal immigration, and
they're continuing CNN this morning to try to carry water
for Kilmar Abragel Garcia, the El Salvador Native they had
a union president on I was having this conversation off
the air with Caitlin, a listener. This union apparently allowed
an illegal immigrant to their ranks, which I would then say,
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if I'm a unionized American citizen worker in that union,
go well, wait a minute, what's going on here? I
bet a lot of them didn't even know he was illegal.
Second part of that is, if he was a member
of a union as an illegal alien, was there any
kind of accountability as to well, you know, Kilmar, we
want to bring you in, we want to pay you
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fair wages, we want to represent you, but you got
to get on this track to being a legal American citizen?
Are you willing to do that? I don't know that
that conversation was ever had it should have been. Why
was he not on that track? Why did he not
apply to become an American citizen. I would have a
lot more sympathy if he, let's say he was just
in process. We know that that takes a long time,
but that he was working on it. He was trying
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to become I'm a legal American citizen. He was going
through the proper channels and it just hadn't happened yet.
That's a totally different ballgame. That's not what happened here.
He was living as an illegal alien in this country,
having entered this country without legal authorization, and that's a problem.
Or if he was legal at one point, had legal status, paperwork,
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it expired, and when it expires, you either have to
renew it or you have to leave. You can't just
stay because you decide to do so, and that behavior,
that action cannot be rewarded. We'll take a break, we'll
come back, we'll close out the show. You're texts thirty
three one to oh three. Are you elvis or Beatles?
Tell me why our last Talkbacker was talking about how
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you like the rock of the seventies.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
More's talk more about.
Speaker 4 (29:44):
That when we close out the show after this, the
situation without Michael Brown with Ryan Shuling.
Speaker 10 (29:49):
Good morning, Ryan, Good morning Dragon.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
Ryan.
Speaker 10 (29:53):
You are the most versatile man in all of radio,
kind of like a utility infielder. You can play any position,
any chance you could play.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
For the Rockies. Those guys suck.
Speaker 4 (30:10):
It's a tough time and that's been virtually every year
for the Rockies.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
Of what somebody's got to come in last place and.
Speaker 4 (30:16):
They're three and fourteen, and I got to tell you
they could only be three wins fewer if I was
in the lineup. I'm just saying, and I did play
baseball one time. I'm fifty now, so I was holding
onto Charlie Blackman because he was the oldest Rocky and
he was twelve years younger than me. So when Charlie retired,
I'm like, you know, I loved his walk up music,
which was your Love by the Outfield and we'd all.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
Sing along Josie's on a Vacation fu Way. Yeah, I
love it, but thank you, thank you for that comment.
Speaker 4 (30:45):
And yeah, I'm a lot like a utility infielder and
I was one when I played baseball way back in
the day high.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
School in Juco. Turn into an outfielder, though.
Speaker 4 (30:55):
This Texter says, as you know, I have a PhD
and can speak right, but I'm still proud of being
a Mari and I still favor Elvis over the Beatles.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
I don't know why I just turned in a W
right there, but it did.
Speaker 4 (31:05):
It happened, and the same text Elvis because he's American,
and I'm American and proud of it. That's why I
think Michael Brown will favorite Elvis over the Beatles. And
speaking of the Beatles, that song you just heard, end
of the line. Travin Wilbery's George Harrison Beatle. He wrote it,
and that's the voice you hear, at least in the
beginning of it. I had to reverse engineer this email
(31:26):
from a text number and I didn't recognize it.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
I don't recognize any numbers anymore.
Speaker 4 (31:31):
Let's I punch him into my phone and when it
came up, it said Tom Martino. Great segue here is
We're going to go to him in about thirteen minutes,
and he said, no one is a bigger Beatles fan
than me.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
That's Tom Martine.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
But MARKA Major would always like to point out the
fact that the Monkeys outsold the Beatles at one point
in time.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
Well, here's a bit of trivia for you.
Speaker 4 (31:54):
I believe the only concert the Beatles did not sell
out was that Red oh right here, Yeah, because I
think it was either poorly promoted or it might be
some weather something went on there.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
Tom might know better than I do.
Speaker 7 (32:08):
Okay, So I do have an update on this, okay, Kelly.
Tom Martino did text me no one is a bigger
Beatles fan than me.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
Uh huh.
Speaker 7 (32:21):
I did an emoji of the rolling eyes, and so
he texted me back. Over one hundred and eighty songs
credited to Lennon McCartney, were recorded by the Beatles between
sixty two and seventy twenty Beatles number one hits in
the US were written by Lennon McCartney. Still a record
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for a songwriting team. But to Dragon's credit, the Monkeys
have more wow.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
I wonder if this is going to be a topic
on the Tom Martino Show. Come out. It's always a topic,
is it now? Okay? Yeah, I would say over all
of Beadles.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
Guy, I love and appreciate Elvis, and he owes a
special place in my heart because he sang my mother
into eternity with his gospel songs, and I know she
was much happier for that experience. So I'll never forget that.
I'll never forget Elvis. I'll never forget all of you,
or Dragon or Kelly. Appreciate you putting up with me
for today. Guess what I got you through the morning?
(33:21):
Mission accomplished. I'm gonna have a George W. Bush press
conference and a battle carrier. But Michael D. Brown he's
supposed to be back tomorrow. We'll wait and see on
that one. You can tune into my show today at
two right here on six point thirty k
Main downside for being half awake when the show starts
at four am up here is that I now have
no context to a conversation involving Bennett Polis and sperm racing.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Thanks, guys, we aim to confuse if it's four am
when the show starts with this man is he in Alaska?
He is in Alaska? Girl dad and he yeah, Alaska, yep. Yeah,
Well John Caldera started it. I'm just gonna blame him,
the previous substitute teacher that was yesterday. Michael Brown's your
(00:35):
normal professor here, and you tune in and you're part
of the class and he instructs you, and he's a
good teacher, and I guess Dragon would be his graduate.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Assistant that you would serve in that.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Role that everybody loves more than the Yeah, they want
to go to your recitation sessions for those that went
to college and know what that is.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
So there'd be these breakout sessions, right. So you go
to the main lecture hall class and there's Michael Brown
who and you just what you should think, don't do
this and do that, and then you ah, I don't
know about any of that, and you buy the textbook
and of course, Michael Brown.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Wrote it because I'm not gonna teach anything. Anybody else
wrote this is the Constitution.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
But then dragon in a separate classroom, you know, you
break down like a lecture hall class at two hundred
into like maybe twenty, and then he would go over
the details with you and being a good teacher, which
I know, the dragon is Oh okay, and now that
makes more sense and you have a chance to kind
of figure things out. I think we need a recitation
session for Alaskandebt because yeah, there's a lot that goes
(01:38):
on here, and if you're not here with your head
on a swivel ready to go, you're gonna get lost.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
You're gonna miss a whole lot, gonna miss a lot.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
So John John caldera Independence Institute, he gets a little
uneasy when I I think I called him like the founder.
Oh no, wow, Ryan, I am simply the.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
President holding down the fort.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
And usually I can get John to go off on
tangents on one of the following things. Pop culture television,
which would mean Star Trek, Star Trek or Gilligan's Island
or anything from like the sixties through mid seventies, or similarly,
that era of music. He's a big Beatles fan, for instance.
I'll come back and he'll have like a whole story
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to tell. John's one of those guys you kind of
wind him up and let him go, and he's full
of very interesting anecdotes and I love tapping into those
when he fills in, sometimes for Dan and sometimes here
Ryan schuling midweek for you.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
I got you into the nine o'clock hour.
Speaker 4 (02:45):
I'm doing my part, and I hate to pat myself
on the back, but nice job, Ry, good job.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
We're almost there. Michael Brown be back tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (02:56):
Now you gotta figure who was the bigger draw for
a speech and hit cago yesterday because there were two
to choose from. Was it Michael Brown or Joe Biden?
Now who is more coherent? That would be another one.
You can submit your vote thirty three one oh three,
and we will welcome back Michael upon his return. I
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know he's always very grateful and thankful and even wistful
when he talks about me filling in for him when
he comes back. If he talks about me at all, now,
well I know what happens a lot of time. Not
my first rodeo, the talkbackers, the texters, they'll all say, oh, Michael,
we're so glad you're back, or they'll give him a
hard time that goober's shooling he was better.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
Than you, and be like, I don't think he was accurate.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
I appreciate you guys texting in and calling on the
talkback feature. I love that Dragon's so good at turning
those around, so be sure to utilize that function as well.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
I love this text because this goes to my main point.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
And if I were advising somebody running for state wide
office in Colorado or as a Republican basically anywhere else,
this is where I would go with it. Textas says Ryan,
that's the difference between the illegals and legal The legal
aliens follow the law of which I am one.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Thank you, yes, And that's the thing.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
As the son of an immigrant, first generation American, there
is nobody who has more reverence for that, or takes
that more seriously, or does not take that for granted
to the degree that I do. I love legal immigration.
It's a beautiful thing about this country. We are a
melting pot, all kinds of cultures coming together to form
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the American culture, to live the American dream.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
And for those who come here legally, that want.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
To pursue that, that want to roll up their sleeves
and get to work and contribute to our economy and
to our society, and speak English and become part of
the American culture, embrace our customs, our values, become Americans.
That was the dream. That was the dream. Not to
bring whatever baggage you were leaving behind with you bring
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foreign flags to this country and wave them and then
go back if you're waving that flag, go back. If
you come here and you're like, I can't stand Venezuela,
it's a communist dictatorship. I want to be an American.
I want to do it the right way. Show me
how to do it. Believe me, I would provide the roadmap.
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They're all kinds of tremendous, inspiring, uplifting immigrant stories in
this country. But what it has turned into, unfortunately, is
a system where people kirk flowing across the border, unvetted, unchecked,
without any steak in the game, any skin in the game.
There's got to be something in it for you. Sure,
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you're coming here, you're coming here to be an American,
but you've got to give something in return. This is
a compact this is a contract. This isn't a cord
that you are making. Read to be an American citizen,
to live the American dream, to contribute.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
What I can my skills. You have to give something
to get someone to know.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
We have several that are many that are coming over
here hand out, aided and embedded by Democrats. Here are
your government programs that you do not pay into that
American taxpayers are paying for Medicare, Medicaid. How are these
illegals so many of them getting Social Security numbers. They're
not filing taxes legally, they're not on W two's. They're
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being paid under the table at cut rate wages that
undermine the American worker. Anybody that's part of a labor
union that might have been traditionally a Democrat.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
Should be infuriated by that.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
And the immigrants themselves are being abused and used by
the Democratic Party, and the Left taken advantage of put
into these menial task labor jobs that only they can
fill there beneath the average American. That's how the left feels,
that's how they talk of it. They diminish and denigrate
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and disrespect.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
And condescend to.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
These people that are coming into this country illegally and
have no other recourse.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
They can't join a union, theory illegal.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
Their very status shackles them in this country, prevents them
from truly living out the American dream. And it all
starts by how they cross the border. And yeah, if
you didn't come here legally, it's time to go. So
when I see on CNN the left the story that
continues about Kilmar Abrago Garcia, this is maddening. Scott Jennings
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commented about this the other night on CNN. Here is
Senator Chris van Holland, Maryland. He was nowhere to be
found when Rachel Morn was raped and murdered by a
Venezuelan illegal in this country. Not a peep from this guy.
But now he's going to El Salvador.
Speaker 5 (07:59):
I'm here the airport. I'm about to board my flight
for San Salvador. The goal of this mission is to
let the Trump administration, to let the government of Al
Salvador know that we are going to keep fighting to
bring Albrego Garcia home until he returns to his family.
I hope to meet with representatives of the government. I
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hope to have the chance to actually see Kilmark.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
And see what his condition is.
Speaker 5 (08:26):
But we are going to keep fighting because this is
a miscarriage of justice. This Supreme Court has ruled nine
to zero, nine to zero that he was illegally taken
out of the country. No put in a prison in
Al Salvador. And this is about due process, This is
about rule of law. What bullies do is they begin
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by picking on the most vulnerable.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
But if we get rid of the rule of law.
Speaker 5 (08:53):
Due process the United States, it's a short road from
there to tyranny.
Speaker 6 (08:58):
Okay, hm, wow, Chris van Holland, there the Senator from Maryland,
was Rachel morn vulnerable?
Speaker 4 (09:12):
Did she need to die? A person who was in
this country illegally raped and murdered her. He did not care,
Senator Chris van Holland. At least he didn't go on
public records talking about it. And now he is so
committed to this cause of killar Abrego Garcia, a native
of l Salvador, who was in this country illegally, who
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had reputed ties to MS thirteen, who was a citizen
of El Salvador and El Salvador alone. Buddy, you buy
the ticket, you take the ride, you come here illegally,
you run that risk. You roll those dice, you could
come up snake eyes. If you're found out, you get
got and you have to leave. I don't care what
brought you here, what your sob story was. Why didn't
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kill mar Abrego Garcia enter this country legally? That's the question.
And the Supreme Court did not rule on the merits.
They were ruling on the process, this whole due process thing.
I'll get into that in just a second. Mark Levin
made a great point about this last night. He was
living in Maryland as an illegal alien resident of that state.
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He is not a marilynd manned as he's being portrayed
in the media. Apparently he has a mother of his children,
et cetera.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
That's tough.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
But when the responsibility lies at the feet of kilmar
Abrago Garcia, if he wanted to be an American, there
was a way to do that.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
He didn't do that. He dropped the ball.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
It's his fault, it's his responsibility, nobody else's. Plus the
Mark Levin point, there are two outcomes to this so
called due process that are abused all the time by
illegals in this country.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
And the first one is.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
You are given this kind of perfunctory court of apparents. Ah,
you know, it's a go ahead and enter the country.
This is the Joe Biden policy, and ya go wherever
you want. But here we're going to hand you this
this court date, show up, and then we'll adjudicate your
asylum claim. First of all, there is no asylum from
El Salvador. That's not a thing. That is not a
hostile country from which we are granting asylum to assi
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lees pursuing that here in the United States fleeing from L.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
Salvador.
Speaker 4 (11:23):
They have a democratically elected leader who is, by the way,
doing a very good job of cleaning up crime in
that country. But it's not a hostile communist dictatorial regime.
Asylum from El Salvador is not a thing unless Kilmara
Bregel Garcia has a criminal record in L. Salvador, which
is none of our business. When in Rome, if he
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committed crimes there as an L. Salvador native according to
their laws, even if we don't agree.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
With them, so be it.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
We don't go around dictating terms of how other countries
can rule on their own citizens.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
Nor should we. But then you have this court hearing
that an.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
Illegal alien never shows up for if it never is adjudicated,
and they just live permanently in the United States with
illegal status as long as they can get away with it.
That's point one point two. And this one is even
more mind numbing. They are assigned to court date, they
do show up for the asylum hearing, they're denied their
asylum claim, and they just stay anyway.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
They don't leave.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
They're not forced to leave, they're not escorted out of
the country. They're told to leave, and they don't to
say that there's no due process here, buddy, you skip
due process when you entered this country illegally.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
There was no adjudication.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
There's been several pursuits of this individual, and in two
separate courts they ruled that he had plausible ties to.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
MS thirteen plus.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
Again on top of it, I'll forget all that sideline,
all that he is here in this country illegally.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
That's the end of the game. Do not pass. Go
go back to l SA Albador. That's it. Here's Tom Cotton.
Speaker 4 (13:03):
In a post on x and he quote tweets this
Senator Chris van Holland ridiculous propaganda video. I'm going to
stay there for a while see what President Bukeley tells you.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
I'm sure, I'm sure. Oh you know what you talked
me into it. Here you go, here's Kilmar take them away.
Speaker 4 (13:21):
Senator Cotton says, to be clear, he is talking about
an illegal alien from El Salvador. This illegal alien is
now in his home country, El Salvador, where he belongs,
and Senate Democrats want to bring the illegal alien back
to America.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
Incredible.
Speaker 4 (13:36):
Well, it's very credible because this is what the Democrats
stand for now. They are open borders. They do not
want to enforce the border. Now, there are some that
are talking out of both sides of their mouths now
because they know it's such a wildly unpopular issue. Here's
the thing, and Dan talked about this on his show yesterday.
It's not just criminal illegal aliens. According to polling CBS
and others, not just right wing polling either, mind you.
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Polling shows that sixty three percent of Americans favor the
deportation of all illegal aliens, whether they've committed an extra
crime here or not.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
They're here illegally.
Speaker 4 (14:13):
According to that CBS U Go poll, nearly two thirds
of Americans favor the deportation of anyone here illegally, much
broader definition. If their Democrat stance, at least the plausible
one from the center left. We go, well, they're here illegally,
but they haven't broken any other laws.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
No harm, no fault.
Speaker 4 (14:32):
No, you cannot open the door to that. Once you
say it's okay to green light that type of behavior,
then there's no disincentive to cross the border illegally. Come
on over, get your benefits, have your hands out, don't
contribute anything, be a leech on society. You just live
off the government dime and vote Democrat. Let's go to
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the text thirty three one zero three more of those.
This one says the best speaker in Chicago yesterday was Brownie,
and he was more coherent. We made the joke that
both Michael Brown and Joe Biden were scheduled to speak
in Chicago at separate conferences yesterday. I had joked that
Brownie was going to be opening for Joe Biden. But
I have to imagine it went better for Michael Brown
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than Joe Biden. We played those highlights earlier, they weren't
exactly highlights.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Only one of them pooped their pants. It's for you
to determine which one.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
Oh boy, Michael having issues lately. He's an old man.
He did have all Zilda's biden But you know.
Speaker 4 (15:34):
Well he posted Michael Brown did on his Facebook about
having a pizza from this place where he talked to
Mate or d into getting them a table ahead of
every body. Aye? What makes him think he can skip
ahead of the line, not make a reservation, just show
up like.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
That former mister undersecretary. He just threw that ved around.
He dropped that. Don't you know who I am? Now?
Speaker 4 (15:54):
I like it when you do the impression. Kelly, do
you have a Michael Brown impression? Can you impersonate Michael Dane?
Speaker 7 (16:00):
Oh my gosh, no, how come I give it a shot?
Speaker 3 (16:07):
Michael mac that's your impression?
Speaker 7 (16:11):
I don't know. That's what I usually call him.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
You call him that, yeah, Michael, Michael?
Speaker 7 (16:18):
Now, but I can see him talking himself into a
piece of lax.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
And he did. He did.
Speaker 4 (16:27):
I always trying to envision and I get no joy
from this, believe me. The conversation that he must have
had with George W.
Speaker 8 (16:34):
Bush. You're doing a heck of job, Brownie. But somebody's
got to take the fall for hur Kane. Katrina we
need you to fall in that grenade. I want to
know exactly how that went.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
I know it's maybe a sore subject, but this is
how I bonded with Michael Brown right out of the
gate when I started producing this program, when it was
two to four. I remember distinctly in the mid two
thousands watching his testimony about Katrina in the aftermath, the
handling of that, and just how on point and prepared
he was. This is not a guy who didn't have
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things under control. You got to read his book, too,
Deadly Indifference. I believe it's called if I'm not mistaken,
And as Kelly has a signed book thanks to somebody
in this room.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
His initials are Ryan Schuling.
Speaker 7 (17:20):
Excuse me, yes, yes, oh God, excuse the hell out
right now? Do we have to revisit this story?
Speaker 3 (17:28):
Wait, is a great story. It is the origin story
for you on this very station and the Lord.
Speaker 7 (17:36):
Yeah, yeah, it wasn't you.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
It was all me.
Speaker 7 (17:40):
It was not you.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
I take full credit. And the music's playing us out.
But I'm not backing down from this. I will I
will die on this hill. But yeah, you got to
read the book. And the Governor Louisiana at the time
school Bus Ray Nagan remember him from the Rush Limbaugh program.
They weren't listening. They were not listening to Michael Brown.
There's nothing that he could have done. The book is
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Deadly Indifference, The Perfect Political Storm, Hurricane Katrina, The Bush,
White House, and Beyond.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
Find it on Amazon, written by Michael D.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
Brown.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
Ryan hot take. The Beatles were totally overrated.
Speaker 9 (18:18):
So were the Stones. The music of that era was
nowhere near as great as the music of the seventies
like Boston and Journey.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
Just saying that is a take.
Speaker 4 (18:36):
It is a hot one, and it's from one of
our talkbackers. I love the Beatles, but I can completely
understand the viewpoint that they are overrated.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
I mean, how could they not be.
Speaker 4 (18:47):
They are one of the most celebrated rock music bands
of all times, so it's a very highly established bar.
There was a deleted scene, I think it was a
deleted scene from Pulp Fiction where umu Ihrman's character asks
John Travolta's character if he's an Elvis guy or a
Beatles guy, which one are you?
Speaker 3 (19:07):
Dragon?
Speaker 10 (19:07):
Go?
Speaker 4 (19:07):
You only get to pick one. I know, I know,
Oh Kelly, I'll go to you first. I'll liket dragon
think about Elvis or Beatles? Which one are you?
Speaker 7 (19:17):
Elvis?
Speaker 3 (19:17):
Okay, it's Elvis? And why why would you say Elvis?
Speaker 7 (19:20):
Because I don't like the Beatles, so.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
It's a default choice. No, I like you do you
like Elvis? Okay? What it is about Elvis? What makes
the king of rock and roll stand out to you?
Speaker 7 (19:30):
First of all, the young Elvis was hot, Oh.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
Yeah, gorgeous man.
Speaker 7 (19:35):
And uh I do like you know hound Dog and
some of the earlier songs. But he was also very
well in his flatter years.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
Suspicious Minds is my favorite.
Speaker 7 (19:51):
Suspicious everything. Well, you know, well, when your mother was passing,
he often played.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
His the Hens Well.
Speaker 7 (20:08):
Yes, sported.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
I'm glad you brought that up. My mom was the
biggest all of his fan ever was.
Speaker 7 (20:13):
And those were some of the best songs he ever
has recorded.
Speaker 4 (20:18):
The last This is tough for me, but my mom
passed in November of twenty twenty two, and I saw
her in this sterile hospital room that was gray and
dark and silent, and you know, she was still somewhat
coherent at that time, Like, I'm not letting her go
out like this, So I went and got her a
little boombox and her favorite, as Kelly just put it
(20:42):
Elvis Presley gospel songs. That was her favorite was when
Elvis sang gospel songs and piquet Your podcast co host
Kelly recently interviewed a police officer who knew Elvis Presley
personally and well, oh, he had some great stories, including
a ride along that Elvis did as they were pulling
over a drug dealer. The guy, the cop tells, Elvis,
(21:04):
we brought you along for this, but it's a high
security situation. You're Elvis Presley, you got to stay in
the car. Elvis not only got out of the car,
he comes up to the drug dealer who's pulled over
that carcase.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
Get out of the car right now, you know.
Speaker 4 (21:21):
And the drug dealer obviously recognized Elvis Presley was so
excited he immediately like de escalated. It's like, I just
had my picture taken with Elvis Presley. I need your autograph, Elvis.
Here's another part of that story. Elvis was packing heat.
He had a gun on him at the time. Elvis
was a big gun enthusiast. As many people know. Remember
(21:41):
he shot his TV because he do you remember why
he shot his TV?
Speaker 7 (21:46):
Because he couldn't change his channel.
Speaker 4 (21:48):
Now, I'm sure Elvis had the state of the art
remote control as it existed in.
Speaker 7 (21:52):
The No, there wasn't any remote control. We were the
remote Have.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
You seen Graceland? Have you been there? His entertainment center
for the mid seventies was way ahead of its time. Anyway.
Speaker 4 (22:05):
It was Bob Goolay who was on the TV. I
think he was on Carson. He just couldn't stand him
for summery. I think he had, I don't know, had
an affair with a woman that made Elvis mad. It
was something like that, but no, Elvis had a gun
on it. He wanted to be a cop, kind of
like you know Shaquille O'Neal wanted to be a sheriff
at one point.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
And Elvis was just thrilled.
Speaker 4 (22:25):
This is the throw of his life that he could
go on this actual kind of arrest chase with this
police officer who worked right here in the Denver Metro
and Elvis another thing that he did with this cop
who would also work I think security on the road
with Elvis for some of his appearances. He asked Elvis,
(22:45):
if you could do anything here, Elvis Presley, right, you can,
what would you want to do other than you know,
obviously be a cop.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
That was one of them.
Speaker 4 (22:52):
Just go to a restaurant, That's what he said. Think
about it. You're Elvis Presley. He could not go to
a restaurant be a woman pawing at him, pulling his
hair out, like I'm sorry, Kelly, but these women your
kind were unhinged in Elvis's presence.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
They couldn't control themselves.
Speaker 4 (23:10):
I mean, he was literally in danger because they were
so like amorous toward him. He couldn't just sit down
at a restaurant, order a steak and have a meal.
And so he finally got a chance to do that here.
And when he did it, he dressed up as a
police officer. So he's there and he goes to the
bathroom a couple times, and these women at another table
(23:31):
are looking at him like he looks familiar that cop.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
Doesn't he look like something?
Speaker 4 (23:34):
They couldn't figure it out, and Elvis saw them kind
of their wheels turning, and finally he couldn't handle it anymore.
Like the third time he goes by to him, he gives,
you know, the Elvis kind of sneer smiles, like how
you ladies do it? And oh my god, it's Elvis Presley.
So even in that moment, he's like, oh, wait a minute,
they don't recognize me. I gotta let him know to
so many great stories. If you want to find that podcast,
(23:55):
I'll I'll put it up. I'll send that out.
Speaker 7 (23:57):
But in the same respect, not you know women. Also,
before we were throwing bras at poison in the eighties, right,
we were like falling all over the Beatles. Yea, and
(24:18):
I my sister is a huge Beetles.
Speaker 4 (24:24):
As am I as you are, as is John Caldera.
Speaker 7 (24:29):
Yes, John Caldera is another. I just I don't get it.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
I'm you didn't get Beatlemania.
Speaker 7 (24:36):
I did not see.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
My mom was Elvis.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
My dad was certainly Beatles. My mom also preferred the
Rolling Stones.
Speaker 7 (24:41):
Was different. Your dad did everything, he listened to a
lot of difference.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
Well, he liked the Beatles, Jimmy Hendrix, Eric Clapton.
Speaker 7 (24:50):
Yeah, definitely, Jimmy Hendricks, Zeppelin.
Speaker 4 (24:53):
And he's still alive. So I still talked to him
about these things. But he liked Elvis like I do.
But he loved the Beatles, and my mom preferred the
Rolling Stones to the Beatles. My dad preferred the Beatles
to the Rolling Stones. So Dragon, you've had time to
think about it, Elvis or Beatles and why Beatles?
Speaker 3 (25:07):
Okay, so you're with me on that one.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
Yeah, not to give a slight to Elvis for dying,
but most of.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
The Beatles are still alive. We haven't and still working.
Speaker 4 (25:23):
Have you? Ringo Star, This guy is what eighty four
got to be close up there, yet he looks amazing.
Ringo Star looks like sixty four, Widow's sixty four and
Paul's still rocking to your point, that's a yeah, he's
up there.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
He's past eighty now.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
And not that I think that Elvis couldn't continue to work,
but he did, so there there's more funness for a
dead guy. Like when you think of Nirvana and Kurt
Cobain and Jimmy Hendrix and you think those guys were great.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
Well, were they great because they.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
Died young and you know, burned out quickly or would
they continue to be great for the longevity of their lives?
Speaker 1 (26:06):
Well?
Speaker 3 (26:06):
Who's to say?
Speaker 4 (26:07):
Both members of the twenty seven club, these musicians, who
all these musicians? Amy Winehouse has another one died at
the age of twenty seven Jim Morrison. Another one, Elvis,
if he were alive, would have just turned ninety January eighth,
nineteen thirty five with his birth year. Now, fight to
guess I might know the answer to this, because I
think I might have asked Michael Brown this question before.
(26:27):
If you asked him Elvis or Beatles, he say Elvis, right,
I would, And Kelly's shaking her head.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
Yes, Maybe ask him that tomorrow. Yeah, we'll do good.
Lead in.
Speaker 4 (26:36):
He seems like an Elvis guy. But I could be wrong,
but I think I'm right. I know he's a Yankees fan,
and I still like him. Anyway, Let's go to your
text three to three one zero three.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
Two things.
Speaker 4 (26:50):
First, One, I would love for Dan Kaplis to run,
but his wife is on the opposite side of the
aisle from him, and I don't know if that would
go over well with voters or his wife. I think
it would actually be a tremendous asset to Dan in
a political campaign to say, hey, look, the woman of
my dreams, the love of my life is a lifelong
(27:12):
Democrat and she loves me. You know, I can't be
that bad. So if they try to demonize Dan Kaplis, First,
of all, good luck with that. He's a good guy,
but they're going to try to marginalize him because of
his conservative views on marijuana and on abortion. Those would
be two in particular, I think that stand out that
would not be popular overall in the state of Colorado.
But the job that Dan would have to do politically
(27:33):
is to just acknowledge those. He's not going to do
an about face on either one of those, that's fine,
but just say that he respects the laws that are
on the books of the state as they are right now,
that he would work to overturn them. But he's got
to win hearts and minds, and it starts with his
scubmentatorial race, and he wants to do what's best for
Coloraden's and focus on those bread and butter kitchen table
eighty twenty issues that a lot of unaffiliateds are disaffected
(27:56):
with a Democratic Party on that includes illegal immigration, and
they're continuing CNN this morning to try to carry water
for Kilmar Abragel Garcia, the El Salvador Native they had
a union president on I was having this conversation off
the air with Caitlin, a listener. This union apparently allowed
an illegal immigrant to their ranks, which I would then say,
(28:16):
if I'm a unionized American citizen worker in that union,
go well, wait a minute, what's going on here? I
bet a lot of them didn't even know he was illegal.
Second part of that is, if he was a member
of a union as an illegal alien, was there any
kind of accountability as to well, you know, Kilmar, we
want to bring you in, we want to pay you
(28:37):
fair wages, we want to represent you, but you got
to get on this track to being a legal American citizen?
Are you willing to do that? I don't know that
that conversation was ever had it should have been. Why
was he not on that track? Why did he not
apply to become an American citizen. I would have a
lot more sympathy if he, let's say he was just
in process. We know that that takes a long time,
but that he was working on it. He was trying
(28:59):
to become I'm a legal American citizen. He was going
through the proper channels and it just hadn't happened yet.
That's a totally different ballgame. That's not what happened here.
He was living as an illegal alien in this country,
having entered this country without legal authorization, and that's a problem.
Or if he was legal at one point, had legal status, paperwork,
(29:21):
it expired, and when it expires, you either have to
renew it or you have to leave. You can't just
stay because you decide to do so, and that behavior,
that action cannot be rewarded. We'll take a break, we'll
come back, we'll close out the show. You're texts thirty
three one to oh three. Are you elvis or Beatles?
Tell me why our last Talkbacker was talking about how
(29:42):
you like the rock of the seventies.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
More's talk more about.
Speaker 4 (29:44):
That when we close out the show after this, the
situation without Michael Brown with Ryan Shuling.
Speaker 10 (29:49):
Good morning, Ryan, Good morning Dragon.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
Ryan.
Speaker 10 (29:53):
You are the most versatile man in all of radio,
kind of like a utility infielder. You can play any position,
any chance you could play.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
For the Rockies. Those guys suck.
Speaker 4 (30:10):
It's a tough time and that's been virtually every year
for the Rockies.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
Of what somebody's got to come in last place and.
Speaker 4 (30:16):
They're three and fourteen, and I got to tell you
they could only be three wins fewer if I was
in the lineup. I'm just saying, and I did play
baseball one time. I'm fifty now, so I was holding
onto Charlie Blackman because he was the oldest Rocky and
he was twelve years younger than me. So when Charlie retired,
I'm like, you know, I loved his walk up music,
which was your Love by the Outfield and we'd all.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
Sing along Josie's on a Vacation fu Way. Yeah, I
love it, but thank you, thank you for that comment.
Speaker 4 (30:45):
And yeah, I'm a lot like a utility infielder and
I was one when I played baseball way back in
the day high.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
School in Juco. Turn into an outfielder, though.
Speaker 4 (30:55):
This Texter says, as you know, I have a PhD
and can speak right, but I'm still proud of being
a Mari and I still favor Elvis over the Beatles.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
I don't know why I just turned in a W
right there, but it did.
Speaker 4 (31:05):
It happened, and the same text Elvis because he's American,
and I'm American and proud of it. That's why I
think Michael Brown will favorite Elvis over the Beatles. And
speaking of the Beatles, that song you just heard, end
of the line. Travin Wilbery's George Harrison Beatle. He wrote it,
and that's the voice you hear, at least in the
beginning of it. I had to reverse engineer this email
(31:26):
from a text number and I didn't recognize it.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
I don't recognize any numbers anymore.
Speaker 4 (31:31):
Let's I punch him into my phone and when it
came up, it said Tom Martino. Great segue here is
We're going to go to him in about thirteen minutes,
and he said, no one is a bigger Beatles fan
than me.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
That's Tom Martine.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
But MARKA Major would always like to point out the
fact that the Monkeys outsold the Beatles at one point
in time.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
Well, here's a bit of trivia for you.
Speaker 4 (31:54):
I believe the only concert the Beatles did not sell
out was that Red oh right here, Yeah, because I
think it was either poorly promoted or it might be
some weather something went on there.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
Tom might know better than I do.
Speaker 7 (32:08):
Okay, So I do have an update on this, okay, Kelly.
Tom Martino did text me no one is a bigger
Beatles fan than me.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
Uh huh.
Speaker 7 (32:21):
I did an emoji of the rolling eyes, and so
he texted me back. Over one hundred and eighty songs
credited to Lennon McCartney, were recorded by the Beatles between
sixty two and seventy twenty Beatles number one hits in
the US were written by Lennon McCartney. Still a record
(32:42):
for a songwriting team. But to Dragon's credit, the Monkeys
have more wow.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
I wonder if this is going to be a topic
on the Tom Martino Show. Come out. It's always a topic,
is it now? Okay? Yeah, I would say over all
of Beadles.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
Guy, I love and appreciate Elvis, and he owes a
special place in my heart because he sang my mother
into eternity with his gospel songs, and I know she
was much happier for that experience. So I'll never forget that.
I'll never forget Elvis. I'll never forget all of you,
or Dragon or Kelly. Appreciate you putting up with me
for today. Guess what I got you through the morning?
(33:21):
Mission accomplished. I'm gonna have a George W. Bush press
conference and a battle carrier. But Michael D. Brown he's
supposed to be back tomorrow. We'll wait and see on
that one. You can tune into my show today at
two right here on six point thirty k
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