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Speaker 1 (00:00):
So Trump gets into office, he fires all these government employees,
then rehires them because it turns out they need them
or they've been stopped. But that's okay because now he's
the hero because now there's all these new hires.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Was this part of all a plan?
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Unfortunately I can't react to the talk bag because we
have something big to do. Jimmy Singenberger here with you
in for Michael Brown, and what's the situation. The situation
is that it is time for the recitation of the
Declaration of Independence. Pull up your copy on your phone,
on your computer, or open it up if you've got
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a pocket copy of the Declaration of Independence, because we
are going to read it together.
Speaker 4 (00:55):
Wake up your kids quick. It's time.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Ungress July fourth, seventeen seventy six, the Unanimous Declaration of
the thirteen United States of America, When in the course
of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to
dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another,
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and to assume among the powers of the earth the
separate and equal station to which the laws of nature
and of Nature's God entitle them. A decent respect to
the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the
causes which impel them to the separation. We hold these
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truths to be self evident, that all men are created equal,
that they are endowed by their creator with certain unalienable rights,
that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
That to secure the these rights, governments are instituted among men,
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deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed.
That whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends,
it is the right of the people to alter or
abolish it, and to institute a new government, laying its
foundation on such principles, and organizing its powers in such
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form as to them shall seem most likely to affect
their safety and happiness. Prudence indeed, will dictate that governments
long established should not be changed for light and transient causes.
And accordingly, all experience hath shown that mankind are more
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disposed to suffer while evils are sufferable, than to right
themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed.
But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing
invariably the same object, evinces a design to reduce them
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under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their
duty to throw off such government, and to provide new
guards for their future security. Such has been the patients
sufferance of these colonies, and such is now the necessity
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which constrains them to alter their former systems of government.
The history of the present King of Great Britain is
a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having a
direct object the establishment of an absolute tyranny over these states.
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To prove this, let facts be submitted to a candid world.
He has refused his assent to laws the most wholesome
and necessary for the public good. He has forbidden his
governors to pass laws of immediate and pressing importance unless
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suspended in their operation till his assent should be obtained,
and when so suspended, he is utterly neglected to attend
to them. He has refused to pass other laws for
the accommodation of large districts of people unless those people
would relinquish the right of representation in the legislature, a right.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
Inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable,
and distant from the depository of their public records, for
the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.
Has dissolved representative houses repeatedly for opposing with manly firmness
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his invasions on the rights of the people. He has refused,
for a long time, after such dissolutions to cause others
to be elected, whereby the legislative powers incapable of annihilation
have returned to the people at large for their exercise.
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The state remaining in the meantime exposed to all the
dangers of invasion from without and convulsions within, he has
endeavored to prevent the population of these states. For that purpose,
obstructing the laws of naturalization of foreigners, refusing to pass
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others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions
of new appropriations of lands. He has obstructed the administration
of justice by refusing his assent to laws for establishing
judiciary powers. He has made judges dependent on his will
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alone for the tenure of their offices and the amounted
payment of their salaries. He has erected a multitude of
new offices and sent hither swarms of officers to harass
our people and eat.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
Out their substance.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
He has kept among us, in times of peace, standing
armies without the consent of our legislatures. He has effected
to render the military independent of and superior to, the
civil power. He has combined with others to subject us
to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution and unacknowledged by
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our laws, giving his assent to them, the acts of
pretended legislation, for quartering large bodies of armed troops among us,
for protecting them by a mock trial from punishment for
any murders which they should commit on the inhabitants of
these states, For cutting off our trade with all parts
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of the world, for imposing taxes on us without our consent,
for depriving us, in many cases of the benefits of
trial by jury, for transporting us beyond seas to be
tried for pretended offenses, for abolishing the free system of
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English laws in a neighboring province, establishing therein an arbitrary government,
and enlarging its boundaries, so as to render it at
once an example and fit instrument, for introducing the same
absolute rule.
Speaker 4 (07:59):
In these colonies.
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For taking away our charters, abolishing our most valuable laws,
and altering fundamentally the forms of our governments, for suspending
our own legislatures, declaring them invested with power to legislate
for us in all cases whatsoever. He has abdicated government
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here by declaring us out of his protection and waging
war against us. He has plundered our seas, ravaged our coasts,
burnt our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people.
He is at this time transporting large armies of foreign
mercenaries to complete the works of death, desolation, and tyranny
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already begun, with circumstances of cruelty and perfidy scarcely paralleled
in the most barbarous as ages, and totally unworthy of
the head of a civilized nation. He has constrained our
fellow citizens, taken captive on the high seas, to bear
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arms against their country, to become the executioners of their
friends and brethren, or to fall themselves by their hands.
He has excited domestic insurrections among us, and has endeavored
to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless
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Indian savages, whose known rule of warfare is an undistinguished
destruction of all ages, sexes, and conditions in every stage
of these oppressions we have petitioned for redress in the
most humble terms. Are repeated petitions have been answered only
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by repeated injuries. A prince whose character is thus marked
by every the act which may define a tyrant, is
unfit to be the ruler of a free people. Nor
have we been wanting in attentions to our British brethren.
We have warned them from time to time of attempts
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by their legislature to extend an unwarrantable jurisdiction among over us.
We have reminded them of the circumstances of our emigration
and settlement here. We have appealed to their native justice
and magnanimity, and we have conjured them, by the ties
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of our common kindred to disavow these usurpations, which would
inevitably interrupt our connections and correspondence. They too, have been
deaf to the voice of justice and of consanguinity. We
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must therefore, oh yes in the necessity which denounces our separation,
and hold them as we hold the rest of mankind,
enemies in.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
War in peace. Friends.
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We therefore, the representatives of the United States of America
in General Congress assembled appealing to the Supreme Judge of
the World for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in
the name and by authority of the good people of
these colonies, solemnly publish and declare that these United Colonies are,
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and of right ought to be free and independent states,
That they are absolved from all allegiance to the British Crown,
and that all political connections between them and the State
of Great Britain is and ought to be totally dissolved.
And that as free and independent states, they have full
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power to levy war, conclude peace, contract alliances, establish commerce,
and to do all other acts and things which independent
states may of right do. And for the support of
this declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of
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Divine providence, we mutually pledge to each other our lives,
our fortunes, and our sacred honor. The Declaration of the
Continental Congress the United States of America, July fourth, seventeen
seventy six, two hundred and forty nine years ago tomorrow
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remarkable words. And I think when Jefferson and the other
authors of the declaration and the signers when they wrote this,
when they approved it on July tewod seventeen seventy six.
I really do believe that they did so in a
way that was meant to be read. And we know
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this in part as well, because it was read all
across the country. Allowed they knew that this was something
that had to be shared by the spoken word. Of course,
they would know that almost two hundred and fifty years
later this would be read on the radio by Jimmy
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Sangenberger filling in for Michael Brown. But they knew that
it would be read, and they hoped it would be
and that the celebrations would continue. But the thing about
the Declaration of Independence that is so profound to me,
and we will talk about this with doctor Thomas Kranawitter,
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Tom Crano Witnter, senior lecturer of Leadership Program of the
Rockies and a fantastic constitutional scholar and scholar of the
Declaration of Independence. The brilliant thing here is how they
lay it out. And this is what I'm writing about.
What I've written about for my Denver Gazette column. Tomorrow
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happens to be that my second day of the week
for my twice weekly column is on Independence Day, So
of course I'm going to write about the Declaration of Independence,
as I have, and it's really divided into four key parts,
and that's what's phenomenal about it is the articulation of principles,
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of facts, and of consequences. First, the declaration opens with
a bold assertion sometimes that people must break away from
their government. But when they do, they owe the world
a candidate and clear explanation. And of course then comes
one of the most iconic lines in all of history.
Speaker 4 (15:07):
We hold these truths to be self.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
Evident, that all men are created equal, that they're endowed
by their creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these
are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. In just
that sentence, Jefferson and his colleagues affirm a truth so
obvious its proof is contained within the statement itself. That's
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the idea of a self evident truth. Our rights don't
come from government. They are natural, unalienable, god given birthright
of all human beings. Although that understanding would evolve over time,
that is the.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
Message that we are to take from it today.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
Government's sole purpose is to secure these rights.
Speaker 4 (15:57):
And only with the consent of the governed.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
But when a government casts aside that purpose and becomes
quote destructive of these ends. The people have both a
right and a responsibility a duty to change it. Here
the declaration really offers what you could call a sort
of sober reflection.
Speaker 4 (16:24):
That shouldn't be taken lightly.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
This is not for light and transient causes, but it's
reached only after a long train of abuses and usurpations.
That the founders argue is precisely where the colonies now
find themselves again. Jefferson writing the history of the present
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King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries
and usurpations undertaken with one goal, by the way, absolute
tyranny over these states. And Jefferson has the receipts twenty
seven detailed grievances against the king, each reinforcing the case
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for revolution.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
And finally you get to the thunderous.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
Chriscendo of the declaration that reaches the inevitable conclusion. They
appeal to God. They do so in the name of
the people of the colonies. The signers here solemnly publish
and declare that the colonies are and of right ought
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to be free and independent states, and to have all
of the powers and abilities of a free and independent state.
No more allegiance to the crown, no more political bonds
with England. From now on, they will do quote all
acts and things which independent states may of right do.
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And at that defining moment, the founders knew exactly what.
Speaker 4 (18:05):
They were doing. They didn't flinch.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
They pledged their lives, their fortunes, and their sacred honor,
putting everything on the line so that we could be
free today two hundred and forty nine years later. Remarkable.
I'm Jimmy Sangenberger in for Michael Brown. Keep the talkbacks
and texts coming, We'll get to them on the other side.
Speaker 4 (18:24):
Six point thirty. K out, Jimmy.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
I heard you announced that your sister would be doing
some vocals for your group. Also noticed that her last
name was Johnson. Does that mean that she's given up
all ease for all time?
Speaker 4 (18:43):
Wow?
Speaker 3 (18:44):
Jimmy Sangenberger here, Wow, I have not thought of it
that way. First of all, brilliant. That is the talk
back of the day to me, because it's wonderful play
because we got to remind folks dragon. Of course, Jimmy
Sangenberger dot Com the website to go the last name.
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There's no a I or you in Sangenburger. It's all
ease all the time. Once you know that Sangenburger is easy,
so all ease all the time, giving up all ease
for all time. Yes, she is married and went from
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Sangenberger to Johnson.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
Go go figure.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
Yes, Katie Johnson will be sitting in for a few
tunes to sing with the Jimmy Junior Blues Band this
coming Saturday on the fifth of July seven to eleven
pm at in the Zone Bar in Grail Sports Bar
and Grail in Golden We will be playing on the patio,
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beautiful place, Golden outside should be knock on wood, beautiful
weather like.
Speaker 4 (20:02):
Let's have a great time Saturday night. Join us then.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
Our text line, of course, if you want to join
into the festivities three to three one zero three, make
sure to put Mike or Mike up front and keep
the talkbacks coming. We're very grateful for the talkbacks because well,
we want to hear from you, but we mostly want
to avoid the cackle, don't we, So just just keep
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them coming otherwise dragon will indeed unleash it. So the
so called Big Beautiful Bill is still being debated in Congress.
Hakeem Jeffries, the Senate of the House minority leader, is ongoing.
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I think he's in our number four of his diatribe
against the bill. Now, let me be clear about something.
I'm with Elon Musk on something about this bill.
Speaker 4 (21:03):
I hate. I hate. I hate the name Big Beautiful Bill.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
There is no such thing as a big bill in
Congress that is beautiful.
Speaker 4 (21:14):
But it's so Trump though. I know it is so Trump,
but I know I completely agree with you. It's a
terrible name. It's horrible, it's so stupid. But it screams Trump. Wait, yes,
it does scream Trump. I mean.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
I might, I might be tard and feathered for this
at the next Boston tea party. But I saw the
news that Chuck Schumer got Big Beautiful Bill stripped from
the title, and I'm glad he did, because I do
not think. Okay, fine, if you want to give it
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the nickname, all right, go for it. But there is
no way in hell that Congress should pass a bill
that's as it is.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
Beautiful. Legislation is not beautiful. Government is not beautiful.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
We just read the Declaration of Independence about a corrupt,
overreaching government. We're not that bad and far gone like
they have that they had back in seventeen seventy six.
But we've got to have a lot of problems ourselves,
and so much of it, most of it, much of it,
I don't know, you decide, is at the foot of government,
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especially the all knowing, all powerful federal government that is
striving to pass a bill they wanted to call on
the right Conservatives Republicans wanted to call a big beautiful
bill they find pass it. There's a lot of good
things in it. I'm very hesitating and reticent about it.
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But there is a lot of good things in it.
We'll get to one of them in just a moment.
But all of that, you said a precedent. The Democrats
can just say, well, we have one big beautiful bill, or.
Speaker 4 (23:06):
Just we have a really beautiful bill. This is just
so beautiful.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
They're the ones who love government and think that things
government does and passes are beautiful.
Speaker 4 (23:17):
We're not supposed to.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
On the other hand, there is something pretty nice about
this bill, especially because it's pissed off AOC.
Speaker 5 (23:27):
President Trump had issued some statements throughout this process saying
and urging insisting that this bill does not cut medicaid.
He's also said some things. You know, he says, he
doesn't think I'm too much of a smart person.
Speaker 4 (23:42):
And I'll tell you one thing.
Speaker 5 (23:45):
It doesn't take a smart person to know if you're
being lied to. All right, President Trump, You're either being
lied to or you are lying to the American people.
Because this bill represents, in the text of this bill,
the largest and greatest loss of healthcare in American history.
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Seventeen million Americans will lose their healthcare on this bill.
Not undocumented people, not quote unquote the disgusting term illegal,
but seventeen million Americans will have their healthcare cut from
this bill.
Speaker 4 (24:25):
Hair on fire, hair on fire.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
Alexandria Casio Cortes has their hair on fire, telling the
alarms Medicaid cuts.
Speaker 4 (24:35):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
How about we're just kind of applying welfare reform under
Democrat Bill Clinton in the nineteen nineties to Medicaid, that
is to say, work requirements for able bodied Americans who
are on Medicaid. Wall Street Journal last week sort of
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summed it up here. Center Republicans have to rework provisions
and their big budget bill to pass muster with esoteric
parliamentary rules. The tune out the Democratic wish casting that
the entire project is in jeopardy. On the other hand,
here's some Capitol Hill news worth knowing. The GOP bill
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isn't throwing all and sundry off their health insurance, no
matter the media claims to the contrary. A Congressional Budget
Office letter.
Speaker 4 (25:34):
This week this was last week adds.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
Important explanatory explanatory details to the claim that seven point
eight million more Americans won't have health insurance in twenty
thirty four because of GOP Medicaid changes. Democrats broadcast this
CBO estimate to frighten voters that Republicans are locking vulnerable
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Americans out of hospitals. But here are the facts CBO
offered to the GOP House Budget Committee. Of that seven
point eight million, some four point eight million are uninsured
because they don't comply with the bill's part time work requirement.
This is a torpedo in the hall for the Democratic
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talking point that everyone on Medicaid already works. The bill
asks able bodied, prime age adults without children to work
or volunteer roughly.
Speaker 4 (26:33):
Twenty hours a week.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
The serious academic evidence suggests perhaps half of that able
bodied population isn't clearing that basic work bar. A recent
report for the American Enterprise Institute is sobering.
Speaker 4 (26:51):
Quote.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
For Medicaid recipients who do not report working, the most
common activity after sleeping is watching television and playing video games.
They spend four point two hours per day watching television
and playing video games, or one hundred twenty five hours
during a thirty day month. In a healthier political culture,
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writs to Wall Street Journal, even Democrats would agree that
men who decline to work shouldn't get free health insurance
to check out of life. The real call of duty
is getting a job. Another one point four million of
the uninsured, CBO says, quote would be people who do
not meet citizenship and immigration status requirements for Medicaid enrollment.
Speaker 4 (27:39):
God forbid.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
Start a nationwide search for the media and voter who
wants free Medicaid for illegal immigrants. The budget letter also
says the seven point eight million figure includes one point
six million who have access to other forms of subsidized coverage,
such as the Obamacare exchanges. And one last little nugget,
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CBO says, even under the GOP bill, the health programs
spending will grow by more than two hundred billion dollars
over ten years. Only in Washington's funhouse. Does the bill
somehow constitute a cut to Medicaid? Now, this is one
of the best parts of the bill. This is something
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that should be in it, that should be a requirement,
and that has long been an agenda item for Republicans.
And they're in this bill, this bill that has some
nice things in it. I will say they're finally achieving
this under President Trump. That's good news, good news. I'm
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Jimmy Sangenberger. You're listening to the Situation Room, filling in
for Michael Brown right here on Denver stock Station six
point thirty KA.
Speaker 6 (28:57):
One of the things I hate about politicians our government
is we're told one thing and then all of a sudden,
it's not true. We didn't have five billion to spend
on the border wall under Trump's first term, but how
many billions upon billions have was sent to Ukraine? And
now Colorado is in a short fall, but the governor
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of Colorado seems be pulling money out of the hat.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
He wants his dark pedestrian bridge.
Speaker 4 (29:29):
That's it. That that is what he wants.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
Is his legacy, the Polish legacy, the pedestrian bridge, Polish's
pedestrian bridge. Nonsense, Jimmy Sangenberger in for Michael Brown right
here on six thirty k how and great selection there,
dragging with the bumper. I have not heard Larry McCray
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do that fun and funky cover of the Rolling Stones
Midnight Ramble, which at some point, by the way, the
Jimmy Junior Blues Band will be incorporating in the setlist.
We're not there yet from the original, you know, covering
the original Stones version. But I will say this, I
just interviewed Larry McCrae last month for my Blues Business podcast,
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which you can access you can subscribe to.
Speaker 4 (30:22):
And enjoy on the iHeartRadio.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
App Blues Business with Jimmy sangen Berger, All Ease, all
the Time in sang and Burger. Check it out there.
Bo I interviewed him. It was a great conversation. And
I also interviewed Kim Wilson of the Fabulous Thunderbirds, who
at the Blues from the Top festival this past weekend
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at nine thousand feet Dragon did a harmonica solo that
was instrumental, basically that the bass player and the guitarist
left the stage. It was just the drummer there and
hint for like six minutes and he's not.
Speaker 4 (31:01):
From Colorado, and I was hurt a little bit. Oh
my gosh.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
When I interviewed him for Blues Business, he was like,
it's hard to.
Speaker 4 (31:12):
Breathe when I asked him what it's like playing in that.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
But if I could just do a fraction of what
he could do there, I'd really be doing something with harmonica.
Kim Wilson, one of the great badasses of the blues harmonica,
of the harmonica period. That's for darn shore. Three three
one three excuse me? Three three one zero three is
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the text line. Put Michael or Mike ahead of the
line there to make sure I see it. Texts coming
in from goobers like nine seven nine eight, Jimmy, I
am sick of working to pay taxes for other able
bodied people to not work and also pay for their
health care.
Speaker 4 (31:53):
There you go.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
This bill, the so called big beautiful Bill, will address
that concern. Jimmy, how absurd this comes from Goober nine
seven nine eight, again adding on how absurd is it
to pay taxes to a government that is representing foreigners
instead of Americans. Isn't that taxation without representation? Maybe in
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a manner of speaking, I had to ponder that one
a little bit. Do you mean that well? I mean
it's like if foreigners are paying and they can't vote,
then that would be you know, you're legally working here,
you're paying taxes. That is actually the example of taxation
without representation. But you've chose to come here into work here,
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so you're kind of representing yourself in that equation. But
I don't think that's what you're getting at. I'd have
to ponder that a little bit more. But it is
important to keep in mind Medicaid work requirements an objective
of Republicans for many, many years, and Donald Trump is
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delivering on that. And I will say kudos in terms
of the bill and that aspect of it.
Speaker 4 (33:08):
And we'll see how.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
Long Hakeem Jeffries continues his can we call it a
filibuster if it's in the house. Doctor Tom Cranowinner, Senior
lecturer at the Leadership Program of the Rockies, author, recovering academic,
an expert on the Declaration of Independence, will join us
to reflect on this very important document that we celebrate
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tomorrow with Independence State.
Speaker 4 (33:33):
Final Hour three hours through. Already, chimmy in for Michael,
don't go anywhere