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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Brannie, I'm one of the founding members of the White Honkies.
We sure could use a prominent member like yourself in
our club. I'll send you an application. Uh, I'll fill
it out because I'm a White Honky. But I'd like
to know what the is there like an initiation fee?
And then is there a monthly fee? Can you buy
(00:21):
a lifetime membership? It's gonna yeah. If there's any hazing
going on, I'm just not involved. I just I you know,
I got I got my neck issues, I got my
you know, I got my Rocky Mountain men's issues. I
got issues, and so I side down to a telephone pole. Huh.
You don't want to be tied upside down to a
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telephone pole, you know, today, considering everything in some of
the news I looked up earlier and now we're uh,
these Raelis are preparing for all out war with Iram.
We got the n K, you know, crashing. I don't
know what the market's gonna do when they open here.
We got really bad economic numbers. We're probably into a recession.
So hey, yeah, you know what, time me upside down
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on the telephone bowl and just leave me for a
while because it might be better than doing this. This
might be a little bit better than doing this. I
want to address a text message that I agree with you,
but I disagree with you. Guba number forty six thirty two.
Mike Trump is totally blowing it, attacking Governor Kemp and Georgia.
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I must win state now. He says he has to
back electric cars because Musk endorsed him, calling Harris black
dumb moves. Attack Turkey neck, Harris, not people in your
own party. You better get back on track. Well, just relax,
just relax. Yes, I do believe, sincerely this race is
Trump's to lose. And honestly, the race really they're they're
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kind of like they're you know how before a basketball game,
or for that matter, even a football game, the players
come out on the field, they come out on the
and they just you know, they're doing they're doing some
shots and they're jumping around. They're they're dribbling a little bit,
or maybe you know, the quarterback's out throwing some passes.
The place kickers, you know, out kicking his leg up.
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You know, like somebody at the Radio City Music Hall,
the whatever they're called, and they're kicking their legs. We're
in that kind of phase of the game. The official
race has not has not actually started yet. I don't
know why, but I've got and maybe he'll be misplaced,
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but right now it's not. I've got confidence that Trump's
going to get focused on that, and I think that's
because of the new team around him. Now. The new
team is very disciplined, They're very structured, they're very organized,
and we've seen that in most of Trump's appearances. When
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I heard him attacking Kemp in Georgia Google number forty
six thirty two, I completely agreed with you. I yelled myself,
shut up, stop it. You lost Georgia last time because
you told people not to go vote because the system
was corrupt, that their election system was corrupt. I think
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there are times when he just can't help himself. But
I would bet you a dollar to a donut. Honestly,
I'd bet you my kingdom that when he got back
to mar Alogo that night, that his new campaign manager
read him the Riot Act, because she can do that.
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Trump in this regard is a lot like George W. Bush.
George W. Bush, if there were I mean, he listened
to Don't get me wrong, he listened to all of
his camp members. He listened to me, He listened, He
listened to everybody. But he had this knack for surrounding
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himself in his inner inner circle with really strong women
Condalize Rice, Ashley Kavanaugh, the wife of Justice Kavanaugh, obviously
his wife Laura. But as I watched Condoleize Rise and
Ashley Kavanaugh interact with him, he was very deferential. There
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are those of us, Dragon and I both who have
married very strong willed women, and we I can't tell
psychologically why we do that, but I think it's because
we we want someone that is to some degree like
we are. I can't well, I can't speak for my
interaction with Dragon. He is a very.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Strong willed in the.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
That's been shown by his weight loss, in his in
his absolute devotion to his physical fitness. And I think
I've shown it in my tenacity dealing with the lack
of light bulbs in the studio, but dealing with things
like Katrina, dealing with really nine to eleven, the stuff
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that I had to deal with, and quite frankly, even
though I shouldn't call it tenacity, but the willingness to
get up at you know, four four thirty every morning
and come in here well prepared to present, to present
all of you information, stories, sometimes comic relief. That is
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that honestly takes a lot of work. Takes a lot
of work. Trump will always jump off the railroad tracks.
It's his nature. The question in this race is will
he stay on the tracks more often than not? And
I think, so far before the race has actually gotten
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really serious, he's done that. I think he has something
else going for him. But I would if he were listening,
I wouldn't say this, but I know he's not listening.
He's doing whatever he's doing right now. He knows how
to do this, and he knows when he is actually
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going after the economy that that is his sweet spot,
as is illegal immigration. And the reason I believe that
is if you watch him closely. When he talks about
those things, he talks about the effect that it's having
a working men and women. And for all of his
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bombastic nature, for all of his New York big tough
guy roe, he truly does care about average Joe's, average Sally,
average Sally's. And he'll continue to get back on track
with that. We're in a sugar high right now. Well
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I shouldn't say we the Harris campaign isn't a sugar high.
I don't think it's sustainable. Have you heard from the
cabal any of her speeches? Now, I know she's spoken
to a couple of organizations, but have you heard them. No?
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Has she sat down and done a press conference?
Speaker 3 (07:42):
No?
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Has she sat down with Leslie Stall of sixty minutes
and done an in depth interview? No? Has she sat
down with George Stephanopolis and done that.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
No.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
So what's happened is the Democrats were abed absolutely in
the toilet, and they were despondent, truly despondent after that debate,
and they knew that they had to do something. They
were just because they're so consumed with hatred of Donald Trump.
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And when Biden came out and absolutely showed how horribly
Inepty was, they went into a severe depression. They were suicidal,
that's how bad it was. So they do everything they
can to get rid of him. They get rid of him.
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Now they're stuck with Kamala Harris. Now, they, as I
talked about many times in this program, they really didn't
want Kamala Harris. That is really not their candidate because
they know she has a zero track record. When it
comes to national politics, and there is a huge difference. Look,
I think state politics, running as a governor, running as
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attorney general, I think that's a great proving ground and
training ground for national politics. Because to win a statewide office,
you have to take Colorado, for example, you have to
attract voters not just from the front range the population centers,
but you also have to track voters from you know,
the boonies. And that's exactly how Jared Puli looks at
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rural Colorado as the boonies. Kamala Harris has done that,
but she did it in a state that was already Marxist.
So now that's why when she went to the national
stage and nationally people got a view of her, they
were like, oh my god, this woman's awful, so bad
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that she had to withdraw from the twenty twenty presidential race,
never got one delegate. So this sugar high is because
they were so low with Joe Biden that once they decide, oh,
we got to get rid of him, then they faced
another hurdle, and that is, well, we don't really want her,
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but she fits all the boxes. She's already the vice president.
And as you've heard, capitalists promote. I don't necessarily agree
with this, but some people do believe that Joe Biden
will resign and that will make Kamala Harris the new president,
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and so now she'll have access to Air Force One,
she'll have access to all the accouterments of being the
president of the United States of America. In fact, she
can then claimed to be the first female president, and
that will give her a leg up. But I don't
think Biden. I think it took them. It took so
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much energy out of the Democrats to get Biden pushed
aside that this is in fact, I think it was yesterday.
Yesterday was anniversary of the resignation of Richard Nixon, the
only president in the history of the country to have
ever resigned from office. Joe Biden is just tough enough
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and just self centered enough that he will not be
known as the second only president to have ever resigned
and put him in the same club as Richard Nixon.
So I don't think that Biden will do that. Biden
will stick it out until January twentieth, if for no
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other reason than he simply wants to be on that
podium when the next president, which he believes will be
Kamala Harris. He wants to be up there when she's
sworn in. So no, I don't think that I don't
think that Biden's going to leave. So now let's go
back to the sugar high. Once the sugar high wears
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off after the convention, what next week or the week after,
after the Democrat convention and just before Labor Day? When
the when the national campaign? We're what ninety four day,
ninety three whatever? We are ninety three days, No, actually
ninety days. Day's the fifth, so we're ninety days away
from the election. It hasn't really started yet. Oh, I
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know Trump's out campaigning, Kamala Harris is out doing stuff,
but there's not this national focus. People. Now, you're different.
In fact, everybody in this audience is different because we
tend to pay attention to this stuff twenty four hours
a day, seven days a week, three hundred and sixty
five days a year. Most people are not like us.
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They're just kind of paying attention. They know what's coming about,
they know that Trump's the nominee. Here he comes again.
They're still busy dealing with a really lousy economy, and
they're worried about inflation. They're worried about you know, illegal
aliens taking their jobs. They're worried about all of those things.
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And then come Labor Day, when the so called summer
vacation season is over, there will be this laser focus.
We will have a debate. Now, Trump's arguing he wants to.
He does not want to agree to the same format
that they had before. I will understand that. But Trump
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also knows he needs to debate her. And Trump plays
three dimensional chess. So while he's out there and the
media is talking about, oh, Trump's trying to avoid debates.
He will only debate under these circumstances, YadA, YadA, YadA. No,
he will eventually debate Kamala Harris, even if it means
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going back and doing a CNN debate. He's just the
master negotiator. He's reaching for the absolute perfect scenario in
which to have a debate with Kamala Harris, knowing that
eventually he will fall back to a position somewhere in
the middle because the Democrats, while they're you know, oh, look,
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he's a check them. He's afraid to debate. He knows
very well he's willing to debate, and he knows he
will do that, and they know he will do that.
This is all jockeying for position. This is all them
just playing all the bull crap that goes on before
you really get down to the serious campaign. And Trump
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joking about having to back electric cars because Musk condorsed him.
You know what, I don't care about that. First of all,
it's not entirely true. Second, it's a joke. And three,
even if he does say, hey, you know what, In fact,
I heard him say at one point, you know, if
you want to drive an electric car, that's fine, but
I don't want to mandate them. That's a completely reasonable position.
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As I've said a bazillion times in this program, I
don't care if you drive an electric vehicle. Just don't
tell me you're saving the planet. Just don't tell me
how you are. You know, you're reducing emissions. You might
have all you does, you've transferred to your mission. You
know you for me, say, you know what, The point is,
Trump's not endorsing electric cars. Trump's simply saying, if you
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want to drive an electric car, I don't care, but
I'm not going to mandate it. So I think you're
selectively hearing, and I think you're you're putting on to
him the things that you don't like when you shouldn't
be doing that. Calling Harris black dumb, well, I don't know.
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I really didn't intend to go down that path right now,
but why don't we do it right now? Kamala Harris
has campaigned throughout her entire career as a first woman
of South Asian descent. She was raised as South Asian. Now,
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I'm not completely prepared for this, but maybe during the
break I'll have time to find it. But I've heard
all sorts of sound bites of her talking about being
the first South Asian, being the first, this being the first,
but it's always about South Asian. And then suddenly she
decided to turn black, So what is she Well, stay tuned,
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I'll find a couple of sound bites during the break
and you'll hear why I think this actually is an issue.
It shows that when when jd Vance calls her a chameleon,
as he did with respect to Donald Trump, saying that
she was black, you know what, He's exactly right.
Speaker 5 (16:53):
Well, Crazy Nancy was on CBS Sunday Morning yesterday, and
she had the audacity to say that Biden should be
up on Mount Rushmore. I think what happened was she
was drinking and she meant to say, Brandon needs to
be on Mount Rushmore.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
Well, as a matter of fact, I happened to watch that,
and that was the only stupid thing that she said.
She said a lot of really dumb.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
The consequential president of the United States mountain, the.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
Most consequential president ever in the United States.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
Joe Biden, seriously Rushmore kind of president of the United States,
wants to know what's comes next.
Speaker 4 (17:37):
That he belongs up there on Mount Rushmore. Lincoln and
Joe Biden.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Leslie stalls even, like what you think that Joe Biden
belongs on Mount Rushmore.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
But you got Teddy Roosevelt up there and he's wonderful.
I don't say take him.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
Down, but you can add the consequential president of the
United States, a Mount Rushmore kind of president.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Of the United States, want to know what comes next.
Speaker 4 (18:06):
That he belongs up there on Mount Rushmore. Lincoln and
Joe Biden.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
Well, you got Teddy Roosevelt up there and he's wonderful.
I don't say take him down, but you can add.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
You can add Biden. I don't say take him down,
but you could add Biden. Leslie Stall also asked about
the whole coup that took place.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
And made light of it.
Speaker 6 (18:33):
I've decided the best way forward because it passed the
torch for a new generation.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
That's the best waiting a nine our nation.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
There have been reports that it was Nancy Pelosi who
orchestrated a coordinated effort to squeeze President Biden to drop out.
Please tell us what you told President Biden to persuade
him to step aside.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
Well, I've never come I've never shared any conversations with
the President of the United States publicly.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
Now I have said that he's furious at you, is he? Well,
he knows that I love him very much, I understand.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
Didn't answer the question, Well, he knows I love him
very much.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
You don't want to own this, but it is so
well reported that you were the leader of a pressure campaign.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
Now I wasn't a leader of any pressure s Purty.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Well, now this you know. When I heard this yesterday,
I think I was talking out loud to term or
whether she was listening to me or not, probably not
listening to me. But I made a comment about what
Nancy Pelosi is about to say and It says a
lot about understanding how Washington works. Listen to what she
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says here.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
But it is so well reported that you were the
leader of a pressure campaign.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
Now I wasn't a leader of any pressure s Purty. Well,
let me say things that I didn't do.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
Let me tell you things that I did not do.
Let me tell you then, you know, let me prove
the negative here, so to speak.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
I didn't call one person.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
I didn't call one person. And at that point I said, well,
of course not. You didn't have to. You don't have
to call anybody. You're sitting with your chief of staff,
you're sitting with Chuck Schumer, You're sitting there with whomever
it might be, maybe even Hunter Biden for all we know.
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I don't think so. But anything's possible. In DC. She
doesn't have to call a single person. All she has
know is, all she has to do is let it
be known that she wants X to happen, and then
her minions, like in the movie the Midions, just go
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out and make it happen. That's how DC works. She
is totally her hands are clean. She never had to
call anybody. There's not an email, there's not a memo.
There's not a hand scritching chicken scratch note to anybody.
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She doesn't have to do that.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
I did not call one person I could always say
to him.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
I never called anybody.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
I could say to him. I never called anybody, and
Biden would know. Well, Nancy, I know you didn't because
you didn't have to. You just told other people. And
I got the message.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
I'm saying is I had confidence that the president would
make the proper choice for whatever that would be.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
And I said that whatever that is will go with.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Oh interestingly, so now she's saying she's proving my point.
You need to let Biden know that he needs to
make a decision that's in the best interest of the country.
Oh you want me to leave, don't you. Well she
didn't say that, but yeah, that's what she wants.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
Had you seen a decline and Joe.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
Biden, Well, what a stupid question. What do you think?
What do you think the answer to this is going
to be? Well, of course not.
Speaker 4 (22:27):
Did you think he needed to step aside?
Speaker 3 (22:33):
You know, my whole point was, whatever he decides, but
we have to have a more aggressive campaign.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
She mentioned.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
Oh, so she also said we have to have a
more aggressive campaign. See she gave you, She gives the signals,
but you have to understand how DC works to understand
what the signals are. I didn't call anybody, but I
made known that you can't keep doing what you're doing.
It's got to be a more aggressive campaign. You need
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to make a decision that's in the best interest of
the nation, which means in the best interests of the
Democrat Party, which means that you need to withdraw from
the race. She never picked up a phone, she never
sent an email, she never wrote a note, she never
did anybody. She just let it be known if that's
what she wanted, and that's what she's going to get.
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The woman. I don't care unless, in fact, even if
Hakeem Jeffries were to become You know, she's running for
reelection and she's as older, if not older than Biden,
and she's running for reelection to the House. Again she
has and again I compare her to Sam Rayburn. She
probably is will probably go down as a much more
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even stronger and more influential speaker than Sam Rabern because
she's so powerful, she's so manipulative. She makes Lyndon Johnson
and Sam Rayburn look like pikers. That's how look not
saying I agree with anything that she does. I'm talking
about pure political power. This woman personifies the absolute, quintessential, perfect,
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excellent exercise of political power. It's just too bad that
she's on the wrong side of the aisle. It's just
too bad that she has the absolute opposite belief that
I do, that you and I do about what's good
for this country. So yeah, I watched the same thing
yesterday and quite frankly, was upolled by all of it,
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because holy crap, Pola, this woman is backcrap crazy. Well,
let's go back for a moment to the whole race
about Kamala Harris don Lemon.
Speaker 7 (25:02):
Black woman, Okay, that's why I agree with that.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
I agree with that. But is she African American?
Speaker 7 (25:07):
No, no, no, no, no, But is.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
She African American? There's a difference. There's nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
No one is trying to take anything away from her.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
I think you're falling.
Speaker 6 (25:15):
I think all she had to do was say I
am black, but I'm not African American.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
That see, don Lemon is trying to make the the
distinction that I was mentioning earlier. See, black has become
this kind of amorphous I'm not quite sure what it
means to certain people, but it is different and distinct
from African American. African American means that or includes Ados
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African defendant, UH African dependent African descendants of slaves. I
always thought that was black, but black has morphed away
from that. And they've morphed away from that because they
want to distinguish people who are actual descendants of slavery,
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because that's now a new special category of the identity
politics of the Democrats. So you can be a dose
that's a kind of black African descendants of slaves, but
you could also be not a dose, which is black,
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by the way, but you can also be black but
not a doos. You can be a dose but not black.
You see, they so put themselves into pretzels trying to
create all these different identity politics. That's it.
Speaker 7 (26:47):
I'm not falling in let me finish hold on, I'm
not falling into a trap by that. When when she
throws down her lineage, many Africans landed in Jamaica and
all these other ribbian so she could not American American.
It's with others.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
But she is not American, but she.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
Is a black.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
She was.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
Tach cruise, tach cruising about cruise, about cruise.
Speaker 7 (27:14):
But you know what we cannot it was hypocrisy. I'm
not changing the subject.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Yes, cruise. So don Lemon, the master does the master
class in race here. Uh, she's not African American? Okay? Uh?
Is she black? Was she Indian? Or she both?
Speaker 8 (27:38):
Michael, isn't Harris Adoso adult descendant of slave owner.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Yeah, she's that too, She's absolutely that too. I didn't
even thought about that. You're you're you're right. Uh. Let's
go back to this whole thing about uh a doos uh.
For example, there is a discussion over on M S N.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
I tend to agree.
Speaker 6 (28:02):
So, first of all, it's great to be back on
the weekend again and see both of you.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
I think, I think. I think, by the way, this
is a Princeton professor by the name of Eddie Gloud.
Speaker 6 (28:10):
I think that's absolutely right.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
On a certain level.
Speaker 6 (28:12):
There are those who call themselves ados Americans of African
descendants of slavery, and they are questioning whether or not
she's black or not. And I think at the heart
of that argument, and at the heart of what Donald
Trump is doing is a basic misunderstanding. Donald Trump is
a little bit more sinister, right. There is this understanding
of race in the United States that is very that's
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very structure that has goes back to the one drop rule.
There's there's a conflation here of racial hierarchy and ethnicity
that's going.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
On here to this crap neil the one drop rule.
And there's all this conflation of this and that does
any just make any sense to any of you? In
so many ways.
Speaker 6 (28:51):
I want to just say that this is a distraction
and it reveals not only how insidious Donald Trump is,
but how dumb it insidious.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
She's the one that makes a case about you know,
not just female, but I'm black too, so elect me
although I used to be Indian all the time he is.
Speaker 6 (29:12):
This is a clown show on so many ways, and
I don't want the campaign to get caught up in it.
I want the campaign to continue to continue to pursue
its message. We're not going back, We're going forward.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
We don't want to go back.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
To that mess.
Speaker 5 (29:26):
But those of us who have to address it, we
need to have to.
Speaker 6 (29:29):
We need to address it with the seriousness of history
and the seriousness of our moment, I think, but I
think you're absolutely right that he's trying to appeal to
those atos people.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
Some moment he absolutely is.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
Let's listen to This is MICHAELA. Montgomery. She's the founder
of Conserve the Culture.
Speaker 8 (29:46):
A few days ago, President Trump said he didn't know
Vice President Harris was a black woman. I'm trying to
figure out what all the outrages about because she's only
black when it's time to get elected, I lie, the
same black people who are mad at Trump for being
confused about her race, ethnicity, nationality, whatever, are seemingly forgetting
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that while you're touting her as a savior for black people.
She identifies as an Asian woman. She chose her side,
and it wasn't ours.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
When asked her she.
Speaker 8 (30:20):
Would ever do anything specifically for black.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
People, she said no.
Speaker 8 (30:24):
Whereas Trump gave us the Platinum Plan, which specifically uplifted
the black community by increasing capital by almost five hundred
billion dollars, creating five hundred thousand.
Speaker 7 (30:35):
New black businesses, and would give black churches the ability.
Speaker 8 (30:38):
To fight for federal resources for their communities.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
Good for her and Pamala twelve, I'm I go play it.
I have a TikTok video of her talking about her
South Asian descent and just when she was running I
Think for AG and she's on the California radio station
talking about, Yeah, I'll be the first South Asian Attorney General.
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See
Brannie, I'm one of the founding members of the White Honkies.
We sure could use a prominent member like yourself in
our club. I'll send you an application. Uh, I'll fill
it out because I'm a White Honky. But I'd like
to know what the is there like an initiation fee?
And then is there a monthly fee? Can you buy
(00:21):
a lifetime membership? It's gonna yeah. If there's any hazing
going on, I'm just not involved. I just I you know,
I got I got my neck issues, I got my
you know, I got my Rocky Mountain men's issues. I
got issues, and so I side down to a telephone pole. Huh.
You don't want to be tied upside down to a
(00:42):
telephone pole, you know, today, considering everything in some of
the news I looked up earlier and now we're uh,
these Raelis are preparing for all out war with Iram.
We got the n K, you know, crashing. I don't
know what the market's gonna do when they open here.
We got really bad economic numbers. We're probably into a recession.
So hey, yeah, you know what, time me upside down
(01:04):
on the telephone bowl and just leave me for a
while because it might be better than doing this. This
might be a little bit better than doing this. I
want to address a text message that I agree with you,
but I disagree with you. Guba number forty six thirty two.
Mike Trump is totally blowing it, attacking Governor Kemp and Georgia.
(01:26):
I must win state now. He says he has to
back electric cars because Musk endorsed him, calling Harris black
dumb moves. Attack Turkey neck, Harris, not people in your
own party. You better get back on track. Well, just relax,
just relax. Yes, I do believe, sincerely this race is
Trump's to lose. And honestly, the race really they're they're
(01:52):
kind of like they're you know how before a basketball game,
or for that matter, even a football game, the players
come out on the field, they come out on the
and they just you know, they're doing they're doing some
shots and they're jumping around. They're they're dribbling a little bit,
or maybe you know, the quarterback's out throwing some passes.
The place kickers, you know, out kicking his leg up.
(02:12):
You know, like somebody at the Radio City Music Hall,
the whatever they're called, and they're kicking their legs. We're
in that kind of phase of the game. The official
race has not has not actually started yet. I don't
know why, but I've got and maybe he'll be misplaced,
(02:35):
but right now it's not. I've got confidence that Trump's
going to get focused on that, and I think that's
because of the new team around him. Now. The new
team is very disciplined, They're very structured, they're very organized,
and we've seen that in most of Trump's appearances. When
(02:59):
I heard him attacking Kemp in Georgia Google number forty
six thirty two, I completely agreed with you. I yelled myself,
shut up, stop it. You lost Georgia last time because
you told people not to go vote because the system
was corrupt, that their election system was corrupt. I think
(03:23):
there are times when he just can't help himself. But
I would bet you a dollar to a donut. Honestly,
I'd bet you my kingdom that when he got back
to mar Alogo that night, that his new campaign manager
read him the Riot Act, because she can do that.
(03:46):
Trump in this regard is a lot like George W. Bush.
George W. Bush, if there were I mean, he listened
to Don't get me wrong, he listened to all of
his camp members. He listened to me, He listened, He
listened to everybody. But he had this knack for surrounding
(04:09):
himself in his inner inner circle with really strong women
Condalize Rice, Ashley Kavanaugh, the wife of Justice Kavanaugh, obviously
his wife Laura. But as I watched Condoleize Rise and
Ashley Kavanaugh interact with him, he was very deferential. There
(04:37):
are those of us, Dragon and I both who have
married very strong willed women, and we I can't tell
psychologically why we do that, but I think it's because
we we want someone that is to some degree like
we are. I can't well, I can't speak for my
interaction with Dragon. He is a very.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Strong willed in the.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
That's been shown by his weight loss, in his in
his absolute devotion to his physical fitness. And I think
I've shown it in my tenacity dealing with the lack
of light bulbs in the studio, but dealing with things
like Katrina, dealing with really nine to eleven, the stuff
(05:22):
that I had to deal with, and quite frankly, even
though I shouldn't call it tenacity, but the willingness to
get up at you know, four four thirty every morning
and come in here well prepared to present, to present
all of you information, stories, sometimes comic relief. That is
(05:45):
that honestly takes a lot of work. Takes a lot
of work. Trump will always jump off the railroad tracks.
It's his nature. The question in this race is will
he stay on the tracks more often than not? And
I think, so far before the race has actually gotten
(06:06):
really serious, he's done that. I think he has something
else going for him. But I would if he were listening,
I wouldn't say this, but I know he's not listening.
He's doing whatever he's doing right now. He knows how
to do this, and he knows when he is actually
(06:31):
going after the economy that that is his sweet spot,
as is illegal immigration. And the reason I believe that
is if you watch him closely. When he talks about
those things, he talks about the effect that it's having
a working men and women. And for all of his
(06:53):
bombastic nature, for all of his New York big tough
guy roe, he truly does care about average Joe's, average Sally,
average Sally's. And he'll continue to get back on track
with that. We're in a sugar high right now. Well
(07:19):
I shouldn't say we the Harris campaign isn't a sugar high.
I don't think it's sustainable. Have you heard from the
cabal any of her speeches? Now, I know she's spoken
to a couple of organizations, but have you heard them. No?
(07:39):
Has she sat down and done a press conference?
Speaker 3 (07:42):
No?
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Has she sat down with Leslie Stall of sixty minutes
and done an in depth interview? No? Has she sat
down with George Stephanopolis and done that.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
No.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
So what's happened is the Democrats were abed absolutely in
the toilet, and they were despondent, truly despondent after that debate,
and they knew that they had to do something. They
were just because they're so consumed with hatred of Donald Trump.
(08:18):
And when Biden came out and absolutely showed how horribly
Inepty was, they went into a severe depression. They were suicidal,
that's how bad it was. So they do everything they
can to get rid of him. They get rid of him.
(08:39):
Now they're stuck with Kamala Harris. Now, they, as I
talked about many times in this program, they really didn't
want Kamala Harris. That is really not their candidate because
they know she has a zero track record. When it
comes to national politics, and there is a huge difference. Look,
I think state politics, running as a governor, running as
(09:01):
attorney general, I think that's a great proving ground and
training ground for national politics. Because to win a statewide office,
you have to take Colorado, for example, you have to
attract voters not just from the front range the population centers,
but you also have to track voters from you know,
the boonies. And that's exactly how Jared Puli looks at
(09:25):
rural Colorado as the boonies. Kamala Harris has done that,
but she did it in a state that was already Marxist.
So now that's why when she went to the national
stage and nationally people got a view of her, they
were like, oh my god, this woman's awful, so bad
(09:46):
that she had to withdraw from the twenty twenty presidential race,
never got one delegate. So this sugar high is because
they were so low with Joe Biden that once they decide, oh,
we got to get rid of him, then they faced
another hurdle, and that is, well, we don't really want her,
(10:07):
but she fits all the boxes. She's already the vice president.
And as you've heard, capitalists promote. I don't necessarily agree
with this, but some people do believe that Joe Biden
will resign and that will make Kamala Harris the new president,
(10:27):
and so now she'll have access to Air Force One,
she'll have access to all the accouterments of being the
president of the United States of America. In fact, she
can then claimed to be the first female president, and
that will give her a leg up. But I don't
think Biden. I think it took them. It took so
(10:48):
much energy out of the Democrats to get Biden pushed
aside that this is in fact, I think it was yesterday.
Yesterday was anniversary of the resignation of Richard Nixon, the
only president in the history of the country to have
ever resigned from office. Joe Biden is just tough enough
(11:13):
and just self centered enough that he will not be
known as the second only president to have ever resigned
and put him in the same club as Richard Nixon.
So I don't think that Biden will do that. Biden
will stick it out until January twentieth, if for no
(11:33):
other reason than he simply wants to be on that
podium when the next president, which he believes will be
Kamala Harris. He wants to be up there when she's
sworn in. So no, I don't think that I don't
think that Biden's going to leave. So now let's go
back to the sugar high. Once the sugar high wears
(11:55):
off after the convention, what next week or the week after,
after the Democrat convention and just before Labor Day? When
the when the national campaign? We're what ninety four day,
ninety three whatever? We are ninety three days, No, actually
ninety days. Day's the fifth, so we're ninety days away
from the election. It hasn't really started yet. Oh, I
(12:19):
know Trump's out campaigning, Kamala Harris is out doing stuff,
but there's not this national focus. People. Now, you're different.
In fact, everybody in this audience is different because we
tend to pay attention to this stuff twenty four hours
a day, seven days a week, three hundred and sixty
five days a year. Most people are not like us.
(12:43):
They're just kind of paying attention. They know what's coming about,
they know that Trump's the nominee. Here he comes again.
They're still busy dealing with a really lousy economy, and
they're worried about inflation. They're worried about you know, illegal
aliens taking their jobs. They're worried about all of those things.
(13:04):
And then come Labor Day, when the so called summer
vacation season is over, there will be this laser focus.
We will have a debate. Now, Trump's arguing he wants to.
He does not want to agree to the same format
that they had before. I will understand that. But Trump
(13:24):
also knows he needs to debate her. And Trump plays
three dimensional chess. So while he's out there and the
media is talking about, oh, Trump's trying to avoid debates.
He will only debate under these circumstances, YadA, YadA, YadA. No,
he will eventually debate Kamala Harris, even if it means
(13:45):
going back and doing a CNN debate. He's just the
master negotiator. He's reaching for the absolute perfect scenario in
which to have a debate with Kamala Harris, knowing that
eventually he will fall back to a position somewhere in
the middle because the Democrats, while they're you know, oh, look,
(14:06):
he's a check them. He's afraid to debate. He knows
very well he's willing to debate, and he knows he
will do that, and they know he will do that.
This is all jockeying for position. This is all them
just playing all the bull crap that goes on before
you really get down to the serious campaign. And Trump
(14:29):
joking about having to back electric cars because Musk condorsed him.
You know what, I don't care about that. First of all,
it's not entirely true. Second, it's a joke. And three,
even if he does say, hey, you know what, In fact,
I heard him say at one point, you know, if
you want to drive an electric car, that's fine, but
I don't want to mandate them. That's a completely reasonable position.
(14:55):
As I've said a bazillion times in this program, I
don't care if you drive an electric vehicle. Just don't
tell me you're saving the planet. Just don't tell me
how you are. You know, you're reducing emissions. You might
have all you does, you've transferred to your mission. You
know you for me, say, you know what, The point is,
Trump's not endorsing electric cars. Trump's simply saying, if you
(15:19):
want to drive an electric car, I don't care, but
I'm not going to mandate it. So I think you're
selectively hearing, and I think you're you're putting on to
him the things that you don't like when you shouldn't
be doing that. Calling Harris black dumb, well, I don't know.
(15:41):
I really didn't intend to go down that path right now,
but why don't we do it right now? Kamala Harris
has campaigned throughout her entire career as a first woman
of South Asian descent. She was raised as South Asian. Now,
(16:04):
I'm not completely prepared for this, but maybe during the
break I'll have time to find it. But I've heard
all sorts of sound bites of her talking about being
the first South Asian, being the first, this being the first,
but it's always about South Asian. And then suddenly she
decided to turn black, So what is she Well, stay tuned,
(16:30):
I'll find a couple of sound bites during the break
and you'll hear why I think this actually is an issue.
It shows that when when jd Vance calls her a chameleon,
as he did with respect to Donald Trump, saying that
she was black, you know what, He's exactly right.
Speaker 5 (16:53):
Well, Crazy Nancy was on CBS Sunday Morning yesterday, and
she had the audacity to say that Biden should be
up on Mount Rushmore. I think what happened was she
was drinking and she meant to say, Brandon needs to
be on Mount Rushmore.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
Well, as a matter of fact, I happened to watch that,
and that was the only stupid thing that she said.
She said a lot of really dumb.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
The consequential president of the United States mountain, the.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
Most consequential president ever in the United States.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
Joe Biden, seriously Rushmore kind of president of the United States,
wants to know what's comes next.
Speaker 4 (17:37):
That he belongs up there on Mount Rushmore. Lincoln and
Joe Biden.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Leslie stalls even, like what you think that Joe Biden
belongs on Mount Rushmore.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
But you got Teddy Roosevelt up there and he's wonderful.
I don't say take him.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
Down, but you can add the consequential president of the
United States, a Mount Rushmore kind of president.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Of the United States, want to know what comes next.
Speaker 4 (18:06):
That he belongs up there on Mount Rushmore. Lincoln and
Joe Biden.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
Well, you got Teddy Roosevelt up there and he's wonderful.
I don't say take him down, but you can add.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
You can add Biden. I don't say take him down,
but you could add Biden. Leslie Stall also asked about
the whole coup that took place.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
And made light of it.
Speaker 6 (18:33):
I've decided the best way forward because it passed the
torch for a new generation.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
That's the best waiting a nine our nation.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
There have been reports that it was Nancy Pelosi who
orchestrated a coordinated effort to squeeze President Biden to drop out.
Please tell us what you told President Biden to persuade
him to step aside.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
Well, I've never come I've never shared any conversations with
the President of the United States publicly.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
Now I have said that he's furious at you, is he? Well,
he knows that I love him very much, I understand.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
Didn't answer the question, Well, he knows I love him
very much.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
You don't want to own this, but it is so
well reported that you were the leader of a pressure campaign.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
Now I wasn't a leader of any pressure s Purty.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Well, now this you know. When I heard this yesterday,
I think I was talking out loud to term or
whether she was listening to me or not, probably not
listening to me. But I made a comment about what
Nancy Pelosi is about to say and It says a
lot about understanding how Washington works. Listen to what she
(19:50):
says here.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
But it is so well reported that you were the
leader of a pressure campaign.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
Now I wasn't a leader of any pressure s Purty. Well,
let me say things that I didn't do.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
Let me tell you things that I did not do.
Let me tell you then, you know, let me prove
the negative here, so to speak.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
I didn't call one person.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
I didn't call one person. And at that point I said, well,
of course not. You didn't have to. You don't have
to call anybody. You're sitting with your chief of staff,
you're sitting with Chuck Schumer, You're sitting there with whomever
it might be, maybe even Hunter Biden for all we know.
(20:37):
I don't think so. But anything's possible. In DC. She
doesn't have to call a single person. All she has
know is, all she has to do is let it
be known that she wants X to happen, and then
her minions, like in the movie the Midions, just go
(20:59):
out and make it happen. That's how DC works. She
is totally her hands are clean. She never had to
call anybody. There's not an email, there's not a memo.
There's not a hand scritching chicken scratch note to anybody.
(21:21):
She doesn't have to do that.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
I did not call one person I could always say
to him.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
I never called anybody.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
I could say to him. I never called anybody, and
Biden would know. Well, Nancy, I know you didn't because
you didn't have to. You just told other people. And
I got the message.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
I'm saying is I had confidence that the president would
make the proper choice for whatever that would be.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
And I said that whatever that is will go with.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Oh interestingly, so now she's saying she's proving my point.
You need to let Biden know that he needs to
make a decision that's in the best interest of the country.
Oh you want me to leave, don't you. Well she
didn't say that, but yeah, that's what she wants.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
Had you seen a decline and Joe.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
Biden, Well, what a stupid question. What do you think?
What do you think the answer to this is going
to be? Well, of course not.
Speaker 4 (22:27):
Did you think he needed to step aside?
Speaker 3 (22:33):
You know, my whole point was, whatever he decides, but
we have to have a more aggressive campaign.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
She mentioned.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
Oh, so she also said we have to have a
more aggressive campaign. See she gave you, She gives the signals,
but you have to understand how DC works to understand
what the signals are. I didn't call anybody, but I
made known that you can't keep doing what you're doing.
It's got to be a more aggressive campaign. You need
(23:06):
to make a decision that's in the best interest of
the nation, which means in the best interests of the
Democrat Party, which means that you need to withdraw from
the race. She never picked up a phone, she never
sent an email, she never wrote a note, she never
did anybody. She just let it be known if that's
what she wanted, and that's what she's going to get.
(23:29):
The woman. I don't care unless, in fact, even if
Hakeem Jeffries were to become You know, she's running for
reelection and she's as older, if not older than Biden,
and she's running for reelection to the House. Again she
has and again I compare her to Sam Rayburn. She
probably is will probably go down as a much more
(23:52):
even stronger and more influential speaker than Sam Rabern because
she's so powerful, she's so manipulative. She makes Lyndon Johnson
and Sam Rayburn look like pikers. That's how look not
saying I agree with anything that she does. I'm talking
about pure political power. This woman personifies the absolute, quintessential, perfect,
(24:21):
excellent exercise of political power. It's just too bad that
she's on the wrong side of the aisle. It's just
too bad that she has the absolute opposite belief that
I do, that you and I do about what's good
for this country. So yeah, I watched the same thing
yesterday and quite frankly, was upolled by all of it,
(24:44):
because holy crap, Pola, this woman is backcrap crazy. Well,
let's go back for a moment to the whole race
about Kamala Harris don Lemon.
Speaker 7 (25:02):
Black woman, Okay, that's why I agree with that.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
I agree with that. But is she African American?
Speaker 7 (25:07):
No, no, no, no, no, But is.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
She African American? There's a difference. There's nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
No one is trying to take anything away from her.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
I think you're falling.
Speaker 6 (25:15):
I think all she had to do was say I
am black, but I'm not African American.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
That see, don Lemon is trying to make the the
distinction that I was mentioning earlier. See, black has become
this kind of amorphous I'm not quite sure what it
means to certain people, but it is different and distinct
from African American. African American means that or includes Ados
(25:47):
African defendant, UH African dependent African descendants of slaves. I
always thought that was black, but black has morphed away
from that. And they've morphed away from that because they
want to distinguish people who are actual descendants of slavery,
(26:09):
because that's now a new special category of the identity
politics of the Democrats. So you can be a dose
that's a kind of black African descendants of slaves, but
you could also be not a dose, which is black,
(26:30):
by the way, but you can also be black but
not a doos. You can be a dose but not black.
You see, they so put themselves into pretzels trying to
create all these different identity politics. That's it.
Speaker 7 (26:47):
I'm not falling in let me finish hold on, I'm
not falling into a trap by that. When when she
throws down her lineage, many Africans landed in Jamaica and
all these other ribbian so she could not American American.
It's with others.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
But she is not American, but she.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
Is a black.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
She was.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
Tach cruise, tach cruising about cruise, about cruise.
Speaker 7 (27:14):
But you know what we cannot it was hypocrisy. I'm
not changing the subject.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Yes, cruise. So don Lemon, the master does the master
class in race here. Uh, she's not African American? Okay? Uh?
Is she black? Was she Indian? Or she both?
Speaker 8 (27:38):
Michael, isn't Harris Adoso adult descendant of slave owner.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Yeah, she's that too, She's absolutely that too. I didn't
even thought about that. You're you're you're right. Uh. Let's
go back to this whole thing about uh a doos uh.
For example, there is a discussion over on M S N.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
I tend to agree.
Speaker 6 (28:02):
So, first of all, it's great to be back on
the weekend again and see both of you.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
I think, I think. I think, by the way, this
is a Princeton professor by the name of Eddie Gloud.
Speaker 6 (28:10):
I think that's absolutely right.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
On a certain level.
Speaker 6 (28:12):
There are those who call themselves ados Americans of African
descendants of slavery, and they are questioning whether or not
she's black or not. And I think at the heart
of that argument, and at the heart of what Donald
Trump is doing is a basic misunderstanding. Donald Trump is
a little bit more sinister, right. There is this understanding
of race in the United States that is very that's
(28:34):
very structure that has goes back to the one drop rule.
There's there's a conflation here of racial hierarchy and ethnicity
that's going.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
On here to this crap neil the one drop rule.
And there's all this conflation of this and that does
any just make any sense to any of you? In
so many ways.
Speaker 6 (28:51):
I want to just say that this is a distraction
and it reveals not only how insidious Donald Trump is,
but how dumb it insidious.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
She's the one that makes a case about you know,
not just female, but I'm black too, so elect me
although I used to be Indian all the time he is.
Speaker 6 (29:12):
This is a clown show on so many ways, and
I don't want the campaign to get caught up in it.
I want the campaign to continue to continue to pursue
its message. We're not going back, We're going forward.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
We don't want to go back.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
To that mess.
Speaker 5 (29:26):
But those of us who have to address it, we
need to have to.
Speaker 6 (29:29):
We need to address it with the seriousness of history
and the seriousness of our moment, I think, but I
think you're absolutely right that he's trying to appeal to
those atos people.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
Some moment he absolutely is.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
Let's listen to This is MICHAELA. Montgomery. She's the founder
of Conserve the Culture.
Speaker 8 (29:46):
A few days ago, President Trump said he didn't know
Vice President Harris was a black woman. I'm trying to
figure out what all the outrages about because she's only
black when it's time to get elected, I lie, the
same black people who are mad at Trump for being
confused about her race, ethnicity, nationality, whatever, are seemingly forgetting
(30:10):
that while you're touting her as a savior for black people.
She identifies as an Asian woman. She chose her side,
and it wasn't ours.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
When asked her she.
Speaker 8 (30:20):
Would ever do anything specifically for black.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
People, she said no.
Speaker 8 (30:24):
Whereas Trump gave us the Platinum Plan, which specifically uplifted
the black community by increasing capital by almost five hundred
billion dollars, creating five hundred thousand.
Speaker 7 (30:35):
New black businesses, and would give black churches the ability.
Speaker 8 (30:38):
To fight for federal resources for their communities.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
Good for her and Pamala twelve, I'm I go play it.
I have a TikTok video of her talking about her
South Asian descent and just when she was running I
Think for AG and she's on the California radio station
talking about, Yeah, I'll be the first South Asian Attorney General.
(31:10):
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