8-5-25 - 7am - Russiagate What Was Known and When

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road from where I live in no northern New York,
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Beautiful in the middle of New York, in the middle
of almost nowheares firs our map. Michael, Yeah, I know,
I know.

Speaker 1 (01:56):
It is interesting though that ABCS, NBC, MPR, PBS, if
they're still around, CNN, MSNBC. Some may mentioned in the
text line where's Woodburden Bernstein, because this is that kind
of story, Because they've manipulated at the direction of a president,

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They've manipulated intelligence, they've concealed documents they were trying to
prevent the election of a president.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
It really is damning documentation.

Speaker 5 (02:36):
To the president. He would have forced this monster to
publicly explain why he chose to steal these innocent souls.
May God bless and watch over everyone affected by this
unimaginable tragedy, especially the parents who lost their children. Let
me begin with a few scheduling items off the top.
Later this afternoon, President Trump will deliver the keynote address

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at the Winning the Aira Summit here in Washington, d C.
President Trump believes it is non negotiable. They will continue
to face tariffs and pay a steep prep to secure
our southern border. Hey, he has ended Biden's illegal degree
and undermine the democratic Trump and his first administration. Allies

(03:19):
of the President, including his own son, Donald Trump Junior,
were disgustingly smeared as Russian assets and some even had
their lives destroyed because of this vicious lie. The President's
first two years in office had this fake distraction hanging
over it. In Endless resources, time and political capital were
spent having to debunk these lies from the highest levels

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of our government. Now, nearly ten years later, thanks to
the declassification of documents by Director Gabbard, the truth has
finally come to light, and this truth vindicates President Trump,
his family, and his many allies and associates who were
smeared with defammatory lies. President Trump was right from the
beginning about all of this, and we are grateful that

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justice can be served.

Speaker 6 (04:04):
Now.

Speaker 5 (04:04):
We have even more damning evidence implicating those who tried
to sabotage a duly elected president and did grave material
harm to our republic. Thanks to additional important work done
by CIA Director Ratcliffe Committee Chairman Crawford over the past
few months, a newly declassified twenty twenty report prepared by
the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, which GNI Director

(04:25):
Gabert has declassified, found that the intel community did not
have any direct information that Russian President Vladimir Putin wan
to help wanted to help elect President Trump in twenty sixteen,
and in fact, Russia was actively preparing for a Hillary
Clinton victory, but at the unusual direction of Barack Obama.

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At the time, the Intel community published implausible intelligence suggesting
otherwise why to sabotage the incoming president. This is truly
one of the greatest political scandals in American history. And
reporters at legacy, the outlets, some of which are sitting
in this room today, like The New York Times.

Speaker 2 (05:04):
BAM, some of you sitting in this room today in.

Speaker 5 (05:08):
The Washington Post, we're ridiculously awarded Politzer prizes for their
perpetuation of this poax. It's well pastime for those awards
to be stripped from the journalists who receive them. It
is not journalism to propagate political disinformation and service of
the Democrat Party and those in the intelligence community who
hand over out of context and fake intelligence to push

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a false political narrative.

Speaker 1 (05:32):
Bam, there you have it. You know, she really is good,
She really is good. So let's start with the Clinton campaign.

Speaker 2 (05:41):
What do they know? When do they know it? Now?

Speaker 1 (05:45):
Thanks to the director of the CIA and the declassification
release of what's I'll refer to it as the Durham
annex or the Clinton Plan intelligence, Clinton's involvements beyond dispute.
Over at just the News, they report that it's now
a matter of public record that the Clinton campaign team

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engaged in a lengthy and coordinated effort to tie Trump
to Russia during the twenty sixteen election. But how they
do it, Well, there was a comprehensive media strategy. Now
think about this. You are knowingly as a campaign and

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with the not just tacit, but the direct approval of
the then sitting President Barack Obama. You're now engaging in
a coordinated media strategy, using the FBI and the CIA
and the dn I for that matter, to try to
tie Trump to Russia. During that twenty sixteen election, you

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had the secretive commissioning of, and the delivery to the
FBI of that discredited Steel nossier, and then a series
of other.

Speaker 2 (07:02):
Lies about Trump's ties to Russia.

Speaker 1 (07:05):
All of that was cooked up and proposed by a
Clinton foreign policy advisor by the name of Julianne Smith.

Speaker 2 (07:12):
And all of that was done to draw.

Speaker 1 (07:14):
Your attention away from the Clinton's home Brew email server
scandal and her wilfully negligent communication of classified material through
unsecured email channels. Another diversion, another shiny object. And the
Russians knew about this from the jump, from the very beginning. Indeed,

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as Fox News reported last week, quote US intelligence had
credible foreign sources indicating that the FBI would play a
role in spreading the salacious Trump russiacclusion narrative before the
Bureau ever launched its controversial crossfire Hurricane pro Even the
Russians predicted the FBA eyes involvement, and they did so

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with what can only be described, at least over just
the news as alarming specificity. So much for the hard
work of senior intelligence officers. The career professionals who told
CIA Director John Brennan that there was no real connection
between Trump and Russia, they got pushed aside. They got buried.

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The deep state buried them the way that the current
CIA director puts it and is recently reviewed a recent
released review of the Intelligence Community assessment Brennan and D
and I, James Clapper, and FBI Director James Comby manipulated

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and silenced all the career professionals and railroad of the process.
This was Obama, Comy, Clapper, and Brennan deciding, quote, we're
going to screw Trumps. What's the problem. Well, when you
get all the Hatch Act problems, where you know political

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appointees are not to be involved in partisan politics, you
have the actual denigration of the entire intelligence apparatus. You
had analysts within the CIA saying, wait a minute, this
stuff is not true. Shut up in sit down, we're
doing it anyway. So from there, Comy and the FBI

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picked up the fake story and worked as the accelerant
they launched crossfire, Hurricane what that allowed them to do.
It allowed them to spy on the Trump campaign. And
by spying on the Trump campaign, that created this fake
although presented to us as a real need for the

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Mueller investigation. And then and that did what that generally
plagued the entirety of Donald Trump's first term, including resulting
in the impeachment attempts. Now, did Russia try to interfere
in the tent in the twenty sixteen election? Well, duh,

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Russia tries to interfere in every election, and not just
in this country. Russia has always tried to interfere in
our elections. Did the russians twenty sixteen hack of the
Democrat National Committee Chairman John Padessa's email account have any
noticeable effect on the twenty sixteen election?

Speaker 2 (10:38):
No? Probably not.

Speaker 1 (10:41):
And remember it was Donald Trump who ultimately launched a
cyber attack on the Russian based.

Speaker 2 (10:47):
Trolls who were actually responsible.

Speaker 1 (10:51):
For that embarrassing hack on Podesta and his fellow Democrats.
So you're welcome, Democrats. Trump and his team are the
ones that took the counter offensive to stop the cyber
attacks they were occurring from the Russian bots. Now, let's
let me jump around for a moment. The Supreme Court

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decision in twenty twenty four Trump versus United States, that's
the case where they affirmed presidential immunity from prosecution for
official acts. I think that is probably going to preclude
any successful prosecution of either Obama or Biden. But so
what the Department of Justice criminal referral question as it

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pertains to Obama and Biden is this, does their role
or their roles in this fabrication conspiracy fall under official acts?
I think that's a great legal question. It's the question
of if you know, it's not entirely an analogous, but

(12:01):
is the murder of somebody an official act while you're
a president. Well, we have Barauck Obama murdering or having
the CIA use a drone and kill an American citizen.
It happened to be standing somewhere, and I think I
think you might have been standing in Yemen at the time.

Speaker 2 (12:23):
I forget where he was.

Speaker 1 (12:27):
But the real question becomes, I mean, set aside for
a moment that legal issue, because there'll be a lot
of smoke about presidential immunity for both Obama and Trump.
Now I've read some articles. Some no, I wouldn't say
law review articles, but some review some articles by some
lawyers who believe that Obama could be prosecuted. But I

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really have made up my mind about that. Yet part
of me says yes, part of me says no. I
still I just need to study it further. But the
real question comes what can be done with the other conspirators,
Hillary Clinton, CIA director John Brennan, d and I Director
James Clapper, FBI Director James Comy. Now, generally speaking, Brennan, Clapper,

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and Comy, will it be protected by statutes of limitation
despite their guilt? At the time limits to file charges
expired under the Biden administration. You know how convenient is
it to have a prosecution firewall provided by both Biden
and his corrupt Attorney General Merrick Garland. And you combine

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that with the cabal's media cover up. It's the it's
the perfect cover up. And now statue limitations has expired,
and so now boom, at least as the Brennan and
Clapper and probably Commie are concerned, statue limitations has expired.

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But here's what's interesting. The Department of Justice seems to
be investigating this case as a grand conspiracy. Well, there's
a five year statue limitations for most federal conspiracy charges,
but any act in furtherance of the conspiracy restarts the

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statue limitations. Clock that would include perjury, which it appears
to me that Clinton, Brennan, Clapper, and Comy have committed
perjury when they testified before Congress. And beyond those four
the investigation which will be if it ultimately be presented

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to a grand jury, to reach a lot of co
conspirators in the Deep state cabal under the direction of
Brennan and Comy, and that would open a floodgate of prosecutions.
There have got to be for example, Susan Rice, Jake Sullivan,
all of those people in both the Obama and the

(15:09):
Biden administration that may have done any acts in furtherance
of the original conspiracy might have told the statue limitations,
meaning that oh, it's been extended, and now they've opened
themselves up also, and they've opened up Clinton, Brennan, Clapper,

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and Comy to perhaps prosecution under the grand conspiracy charges.
Because again, for most federal conspiracy charges, any act in
furtherance of a conspiracy, let's say you started a conspiracy,
you get by with it simply because the statue limitations expired.

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But then let's say, you know, one month before the
statue limitations expires, other people or even those original conspirators,
do something in furtherance of the original conspiracy that extends
the statue limitations. So if you then go testify before

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Congress once you know Trump's out of office and you're
still in the Biden administration, or you testify before Congress
when the Republicans take over and you commit perjury or
you do anything to mislead Congress, you've now extended statue limitations.
And I think that's where we're really at with why

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they're going to the grand jury. So sometime in twenty sixteen,
presumably early, but Durham's classified annex doesn't really give a
specific date Dutch intelligence started sending materials that it was
intercepting from the Russian intelligence services. Now I've read elsewhere,

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but I don't know for sure that the Dutch intelligence
services were actually being helped in that exercise by an
anti Russian hacking group. That may or may not be important,
but I think it's worth at least worth noting. Now
the classified NX to John Durham's report that state of
May of twenty twenty three, Durham describes this material from

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the Dutch as special intelligence. Let's refer to it as
Dutch special intelligence to make sure we remember that came
from the Dutch, as opposed to any intelligence that was
made up or cooked up by Brendan Clapper and Komi.
Dutch special intelligence. The Durham annex seems to describe, without

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being very specific, three dispatches of Dutch special intelligence from
the Netherlands to our intel community, presumably coming in through
the CIA, although I don't know for sure. We know
the second dispatch those are the ones that included allegations
about Attorney General Loretta Lynch providing information to the Clinton

(18:14):
campaign about the status of the FBI investigations into her
email service. That was back in March of twenty sixteen.
That was when the FBI took steps late in March
to evaluate what should be done, including meeting with the
senior most career official in the Department of Justice Management

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of March thirty one.

Speaker 2 (18:37):
I mean, this is all on the Durham report.

Speaker 1 (18:40):
The information about Lynch came out of a Russian language
memorandum that summarized the material that it claimed was taken
from different sources. Now, among the attributions were Debbie Wasserman Schultz, yes,
the congresswoman from Florida, and this guy that you may
have heard about, Leonardo Bernardo. Both were the subject of

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Russian hacking back in the spring of twenty sixteen. Now,
what I found particularly interesting for purposes of Part two
of the Durham Annex is what appears to be the
third release of the Dutch intelligence the CIA in late
twenty sixteen. Included in that Dutch special intelligence was this

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notation Richall, I'll tell you what it says next.

Speaker 2 (19:38):
You're right, Mike.

Speaker 6 (19:39):
It does completely depend on how much you like or
dislike the person of what kind of good nickname you
give them, especially if you cannot pronounce their name.

Speaker 2 (19:46):
So unlike Oh.

Speaker 6 (19:49):
Dragoon back there for you, Michelle, h Brownie doesn't always
say cupcake more. But this guy in New York McDaniels
because he doesn't call via the McDonald's. And don't forget
booty juicelare guys.

Speaker 2 (20:07):
Cupcake? That's what I got out.

Speaker 3 (20:09):
Of the.

Speaker 2 (20:11):
Juice. Huh, good old booty juice.

Speaker 1 (20:14):
Booty juice. Yeah, booty juice and cupcakes. So here here's
what was in part of the annex. It's redacted, so
it's not really make any sense when I just read it.
The FBI received additional information from T one regarding a
Possibook campaign clan plan after receiving the initial intelligence in

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twenty sixteen, FBI subsequently received additional intelligence from T one,
In particular, in late July twenty sixteen, received a report
that summarized certain hacked emails allegedly sent by Leonard Bernardo
of the Open Society Foundations. Now, keep in mind that
was written by John Durham's team, not wasn't written by

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the Russians, it wasn't written by Dutch intelligence. I think
the redactive portion is a description of this production between a.

Speaker 2 (21:07):
And the report that was summarized.

Speaker 1 (21:09):
And my guess, it's just a guess, is that under
the redaction is the identity or the description of the
Russian intelligence service or office that produced this report that
was being passed on. I think it's important to keep
in mind that what this material is fairly characterized as

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it's not evidence like you would use in a court
of law.

Speaker 2 (21:34):
It's intelligence.

Speaker 1 (21:37):
Now, both of which are useful sources of information, but
they're not synonymous. The only reason to set the Dutch
intelligence reports aside and ignore it is if there's a
compelling reason to conclude that the intelligence is a fabrication
that was meant to deceive. So if so, if that's

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the case, then relying on for any purpose introduces uncertainty
and a miscalculation into any conclusions that any judge, lawyer,
grand jury, or anybody else might make.

Speaker 2 (22:12):
But if the only concern.

Speaker 1 (22:14):
Has to do with the irregularities that come along with
understanding all aspects of it, that's what.

Speaker 2 (22:21):
An intelligence analyst does.

Speaker 1 (22:24):
They deconstruct the content based on its different subjects. They
make analytical judgments about what that might mean, both in
isolation and in relation to other reports than other factors
they have, as well as in relationship to all the
other materials that an analysis is using to make their

(22:47):
reports about. And then you know that goes into a briefing,
for example, So when I would read the Presidential Daily Brief,
the intelligence is what the analysts conclude from taking all
these different sources into consideration, and they would put that
in a paragraph or two, or maybe you know, an

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entire report, and they would attach an ANX. I would
never go into the ANX unless there was something in
particular that caught my attention or that I asked the
briefer about, Well, explain to me why, and he might say, well,
go to the ANX and on page you know, twenty seven,

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paragraph two you're going to find you know why. We
believe that that to be true. Now, the Dutch Special Intelligence,
going back to the very first production, really did reflect
near time monitoring of the Clinton campaign by the Russian
intelligence services. Will Part two of the Durham ANX focuses

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on the Dutch special intelligence that was sent back in
late July. That's got to be evaluated as part of
their special intelligence provided earlier in the year on subjects
other than the Clinton Plan. So earlier indications of accuracy

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are a basis upon which you can assume the accuracy
of later productions until you get it established. Otherwise, you
build on each of those components and you come to
a conclusion that is your established conclusion until something comes
along that says, no, it's not true. So the late

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July production of the Dutch Special Intelligence seems to be
only a memo that kind of summarizes all the other
documents that are not in the NX. So the memo
includes the following, which I see everything I just said
because what I'm about to read you is from the

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memo the durham ANX And until somebody proves otherwise, you've
got to assume this is true. On twenty six July
twenty sixteen, Clinton approved a plan by her policy advisor
Julianna Smith to smear Donald Trump by magnifying the scandal

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tied to intrusion by Russian special services in the pre
election process to benefit the Republican candidate. Okay, so that's
the opposite of what we were being told. Remember this
is from the classified NX that was just released. Now,

(25:43):
Cash Battel knew this, which is why cash Battel and
the FBI director came out. That's why cash Battel, the
FBI director, came out when he was still on the
House Intelligence Select Committee and said, look, this whole that's
the thing is fake. Remember Devin Nunez was on the

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steps of the White House saying exactly the same thing.

Speaker 2 (26:06):
But this.

Speaker 1 (26:09):
Memo also says this as envisioned by Smith. That's the
Clinton advisor, as envisioned by Smith, raising the theme of
Putin's support for Trump to the level of the Olympic
scandal that's referring to the Russian doping scandal, would divert
the constituent's attention from the investigation of Clinton's compromised electronic correspondence.

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This is what Durham knew. This is what he was
classifying and trying to keep from the public, subsequently steering
public opinion towards the notion that the public needs to
equate Putin's efforts to influence political processes in the United
States via cyberspace to act against a crucially important infrastructure resembling,

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for example, the National Power Supply Network, would force the
White House to use more confrontational scenarios visa the Moscow
that as.

Speaker 2 (27:09):
A whole suits Clinton's line of conduct.

Speaker 1 (27:16):
With other words, Durham's acknowledging that the Dutch Special Intelligence
they knowingly altered that so that they could what it
suits Clinton's line of conduct of diverting attention away from
her email scandal, focusing that oh, Russia really thinks Clinton's

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going to win to Russia wants Trump to win. This
memo continued last paragraph. During the first stage of the campaign,
due to lack of direct evidence, it was decided to
disseminate the necessary information through the FBI affiliated entities involved

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in cybersecurity, namely CrowdStrike and Threat connect, from where the
information would then be disseminated through leading US publications. Durham confirms,
he confirms that they altered the intelligence at the direction
of Barack Obama and Susan Rice in that Oval Office meeting.

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They went back, the analysts objected, said no, no, no, no,
you can't do that. That's that's incorrect, that's that's not
based on any legitimate analysis. We've done. Shut up and
say down, and that's what we're doing anyway. And now
Durham is confirming in the annex that it was done
because it was done on behalf of the Clinton campaign
to divert attention away from the email server and to

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direct that the Russians are really focused on Trump, trying
to help Trump win. Now, I understand that what somewhat
Durham writes is under reduction action, but it does seem
that it's a list of US institutions like Soros, Carnegie,
both of which were hacked, and confirms that references to
documents from those institutions are found in part of that memo.

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This still remains redacted. I think it first needs to
be acknowledged that unless Russian intelligence has you know, Nocerodonomus
on their payroll or somebody else who possesses the powers
of clairvoyance, what the plan was set to include is
a decently close description of exactly what happened between July

(29:39):
and November eighth, the election day in twenty sixteen. You know,
the one part that doesn't align with how things actually
played out was the expectation that CrowdStrike or threat connect
that they would be used to spread the misinformation about
Trump and put into the media. The reason that doesn't
align is because it it turned out not to be

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necessary because, unbeknownst to most campaign staff, Fusion, GPS and
Christopher Steele had already covered that issue. They had already
at the direction of Komy, realized that, oh yeah, we're
going to put all of this disinformation together and Komy
will use it as intelligence to do two things. One,

(30:23):
go to the PIS at court Lie to get a
warrant so that they can actually spy on the Trump campaign,
to use Trump to brief it. And then when he's
asked about what do you brief the president about? Then
he could tell the story. It is, well, I guess
it's to many of us who believed this, it's anti climactic.

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But when you set aside that, oh well I knew
all this anyway, or I believe all of this anyway,
the difference is, now you got the receipts, got the information,
and now you got the proof. And so what was
really going on was an absolute abuse of the intel community.

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It was using the Oval Office, it was using all
of the intel apparatus to do what initially tried to
defeat Donald Trump. When that didn't work, it was then
used to try to portray Trump as a Russian agent.
And what lead to an impeachment. This is I mean,

(31:38):
it does. It makes Watergate look like, well, it makes
it look like the second rate burglary that initially that
it was. And the parallel is and then you had
to cover up. You had to cover up by Clapper, Brennan, Comy,
by Susan Rice, by Jake Sullivan, by Barack Obama, by
Joe Biden, all of them covering up. Oh no, no, no,

(31:59):
none of this. And well, let me take a break
here and I'll tell you one more thing.

Speaker 2 (32:07):
When you get that.

Speaker 3 (32:07):
Good morning, from the banks of the Missouri River in Yankton,
South Dakota.

Speaker 2 (32:11):
And I'm on vacation. Again, I didn't think you wanted
to hear about that.

Speaker 3 (32:14):
So everyone have a great day.

Speaker 2 (32:19):
Every day is a vacation for you, my friend exactly.

Speaker 1 (32:23):
And I'm on vacation. I'm on vacation at such and
such spot. But I don't think you want to hear
about that, or may have a great.

Speaker 2 (32:29):
Day, lucky. They are absolutely a reflection of how we act.

Speaker 1 (32:40):
The FBI has never provided any explanation for doing nothing,
literally nothing, after receiving information that well Crossfire Hurricane may
in fact be a downstream result of false information that
was deliberately injected into US and intelligence and law enforcement.

Speaker 2 (33:01):
By the Clinton campaign.

Speaker 1 (33:04):
And the Durham Annex makes clear that when the Crossfire
Hurricane analysts were first briefed on the content of the
July Dutch Special Intelligence, and when they first saw the
actual text of the Dutch Special Intelligence, none of their
superiors gave them any tasks, any metrics, no tasking, nothing.

(33:32):
Nobody did anything because the plan had been put in place.
Why did it, For example, why did the FBI react
as it did the information from a single meeting in
a London bar that occurred between an Australian diplomat and
a Trump campaign official that no one had ever even
heard of, information that was nearly two months old. Why

(33:57):
do they react as it did to that information while
doing literally nothing in response to the Dutch special intelligence
receive over a period of months, which was very specific
as to individuals, specific plans, specific actions. These are all

(34:18):
the things that I know. It's convoluted, it's confusing, it's complicated,
and in our ADHD world, it's difficult for people to
follow along. I would sum it up.

Speaker 2 (34:31):
This way, and when I do the summation, I know
you're going to think, well, Michael, we already knew this.

Speaker 1 (34:41):
Well, there's the difference between you knowing something in your
gut that intuitively you know that X y Z is true.
There's a difference between that feeling and then having someone say, oh,
you feel like strawberry ice cream is the best? Well,

(35:03):
look at this scientific study that shows that most human
beings have an inclination to think that strawberry ice cream
is the best. It validates, it proves, it shows you
that your intuition was correct. And the sad part is
people don't take the next step. Oh, not only was

(35:25):
my intuition correct, but all of these falsehoods, the lies
and everything that Trump keeps, you know, bitching and moaning
about that was done back in twenty sixteen was actually
true and was part of a conspiracy to prevent him
from governing as much as possible for four years up

(35:47):
to and including impeaching him three times. Because you just
can't imagine when a white house and the staff in
that White House are fighting for their lives to make
sure that the boss is protected or survives, that that
becomes a focus. Meanwhile, the secretary's the cabinet is left

(36:12):
just hanging out there. There's no leadership, there's the culture
is one. Oh, the white House is hunkered down. I
really need to talk to the president about, you know,
some policy issue, but it's hard to get in to
see the president because he's so focused on the stupid impeachment.
So he's spending all the time with the lawyers and
the consultants and everybody else. So you end up just

(36:34):
kind of doing what you think is best, but you
really don't know if it is or not, or you
end up not doing much of anything. Well, mission accomplished.
If you here the Democrats, absolutely mission accomplished. For your Democrats,
now compare and contrast those days to these days. He's
having none of that, absolutely none of it. So for

(36:57):
this to be referred to a grand jury is absolutely
the right thing to do, even.

Speaker 2 (37:03):
If it doesn't result in the prosecution of Barack Obama.

Speaker 1 (37:07):
History and knowing that this is how dirty the Democrats play,
and hopefully some people will actually be indicted because they've
engaged in further into the conspiracy