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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Because you're waking up with the morning.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Hi, good morning. If you have signed Pete Rose merch
or if you've got just Pete Rose cards or hats,
or if you've been cleaning out your parents' basement like
I have in the last couple of months, and you
will eventually come across anything signed by Pete Rose. Is
that worth anything? Is it something that you should sell?
(00:25):
Is it something that you should hang on to for
forever and ever and ever? I have Chris Costa, who
is the co founder of card Vault, on the phone
this morning, and I said, Chris, what is this Pete
Rose merchandise?
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Like?
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Have you started seeing people come forward with it? Good morning, Chris, Hey,
good morning, Tis. I appreciate you jumping on. So you
found some really interesting sports memorabilia. I didn't even by
the way, I didn't even know that baseball cards and
cards in general were such a big thing. Is it
making a comeback? Has it always been big? What's the
(01:01):
latest with cards and such?
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Yeah? So cards have been huge for over one hundred years, right,
and the market's gone up, it's gone down, popularity's gone up,
it's gone down, and it's certainly back up over the
last call it ten years. We've seen our business grow
exponentially up here in the New England area, and we've
seen foot traffic growing and interest growing, and in certain
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cases like Pete Rose, like you mentioned, the market is up.
And his market has always been strong when it comes
to memorabilia and his trading cards, but obviously since his passing,
people are looking for Pete Rose stuff. So I've got
a couple of interesting stats here because there's some pretty
impressive sales going on. If you want to hear.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Them, I would love to, Chris, I'm soaking up all
this info.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Okay, perfect, So Pete Rose cards are certainly up since
his passing. A couple of examples that I think are
important to call out that there's there's probably four or
five what you would consider it rows most important cards
if we're talking just specifically baseball cards. His nineteen sixty
four tops in a PSA nine, which is a grade condition, right,
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it goes from one to ten in a PSA nine.
His nineteen sixty four tops just sold for sixty thousand
dollars and that is up from twenty two thousand dollars
in April, so almost three x his market. Oh my god,
Now his nineteen sixty three TOPS, which is widely considered
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his true rookie card, in a PSA nine that just
sold for one hundred thousand dollars, and that is up
from seventy thousand. Now, keep in mind there's only thirty
of a PSA nine in his true rookie card, and
there's only one PSA ten which is perfect condition that
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PSA ten. If it surfaced it, I would suspect that
card would do a million dollars or more.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
That's crazy from a baseball card. Okay, Now, does this
mean that he's what if he signed it? Does sign
Memorabiley have? Is there any value to anything it's signed?
Or would you rather not signed?
Speaker 1 (03:15):
No? There is two different markets, right, his license trading
cards from TOPS over his playing career, and his rookie
cards and his second year cards. Those don't have to
be signed, and in his case, none of them are
signed when they come out of the packs back in
the sixties seventies, or if you find a pack now
and open it up, it's not physically signed by Pete. Now,
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Pete is notorious for signing a lot of stuff. He's
always at card shows and trade shows and public signings.
So he's always been a big signer and he's always
been out there in the community. However, his stuff's still valuable.
So sign jerseys, signed eight x ten, signed hats, signed
gloves still carry value couple hundred bucks, a few thousand bucks,
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depending on the item. Now, if you had a game
warn Pete Rose uniform, we're talking you know, six figures,
seven figures. So it all depends on what the item is.
But when it comes to sports cards, there's always an
active market and it's one that you can really easily tracked,
and that's the market that's going to tell us where
Pete Rose values are, and they're certainly up three x
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two x in most cases.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Okay, so you have mentioned mostly just like cards, cards, cards, cards,
but if there was a signed baseball or something, there's
definitely value in it. But the cards are where there's
a lot of value.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Well, yeah, inherently the cards carry a whole another level
of a nostalgia Americana and rarity, right because the condition
of these cards is so important. You know, most people
that might be listening to this, if they have Pete
Rose cards in their parents' basement, they're probably in a
bin somewhere and they might be dinged up and shoot up,
and that's okay, But the real big numbers that we're
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seeing come with, you know, really high grade condition cards
that have been meticulously kept. With that said, you know
a PSA five nineteen sixty three Pete Rose Rookie, which
is probably the condition of a card that might be
sitting in somebody's closet. That's still a two thousand dollars card.
So cards, yes, the value is there, but no Baseball's
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are absolutely value. Signed Pete Rose, baseball, signed Pete Rose, game,
used Baseball's, signed jersey, signed eight x ten, signed hats.
All that stuff still has value. But the cards are
where the big numbers lie.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Okay, this is super helpful. So if I am cleaning
out my dad's basement and I find a Pete Rose card,
what would be the first step? What would you want
me to do with that thing?
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Yeah? Great question. So you can do a couple of
different things. Number One, you can go on PSA's website
PSA card dot com. They're one of the major grading
and authenticating services, okay, and you can look up their
dealer directory and you can look for any dealer in
the Ohio area in the Cincinnati area, and you can
decide who you want to bring your cards to to
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then send out to get graded. PSA will look at
your card under a microscope, they will encapsulate it, and
they will certify it with a condition grade, and then
they will send it back to you. Once you get
it back, then you have a few different options as
far as where you can sell it if you want
to sell it. One is eBay. eBay has always been
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and still is the largest marketplace for trading cards and collectibles,
So you can sell it yourself on eBay, or you
can use what they call eBay auction houses who will
take your card for you. They'll list it for you,
they'll take images of it, and they'll market it for you.
A great example of one of those is MC sports
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Cards the letters MC Sports Cards. He's a great eBay consigner.
Or final option is you can use a private auction
house like a Golden Auctions, who most people might know
from Netflix series King of Collectibles, or the private auction
house Fanatics collect So those are really your main options.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Would you recommend someone selling it like right now or
is this something that you pass on generation and generation
and generation and hang on to it forever.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Well, that comes down to the human, right, what are
you trying to do with your items and your collectibles?
You know, certainly the Pete Rose market is as hot
as it's ever been. I just mentioned a couple of
his cards just sold for all time highs. Pete Rose
arguably the greatest hitter of all time. His stuff will
always have value, but right now it's certainly hot and
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it's top of mind. So if you're trying to use
those collectibles, or use those items that you found, or
use those items that you've been holding on to to
pay for something in particular or save some money, there's
nothing wrong with selling those items now. But if you
find the nostalgia or the sentimental value in an item
or you want to pass it down, there's nothing better.
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And I wouldn't fall for choosing a Pete Rose card
or collectible to be that item.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Okay, Wow, this fascinating that someone could get a million
dollars off of a card like that. That's crazy.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Well, CHRISI wow.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Chris Costa the car is it card vault or the
card vault?
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Both, but it's card vault card vault on social.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Yeah, folks want to find us. You can find us
on Instagram at card vault us that's our main Instagram handle,
at card vault us on Twitter or x, and our website,
thecard vault dot com.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Well, Chris, I really appreciate you joining the show. Thank
you so much. I don't know if I have a
million dollars worth of Pete Rose merch, but if I do,
you'll be the first that I tell you.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Never know, I'll talk to you soon. Tip. Awesome. That
was