April 15, 2026 • 25 mins
On the Monsters Attorney "Friendly" Ray Traendly of TK Law offers Russ advice on mediation when it comes to working with a group of people trying to organize an event.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I didn't know how that was going to turn out.
That was a random phone call that came to Uh,
they came to my I don't know how people call
him Facebook. I thought I blocked all that.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
I thought I did too. And then when he called
and I even told me, oh, he called me yesterday
and he called me this morning, I don't know who
this is, so I'm not answering. And I told him
on the walkout, I said, hey, man, sorry, I don't
answer phone calls from there. I didn't even know it
could come through my phone like that. Like you, I
thought I had blocked all of that.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
I did too.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
I wish that will be happening.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
Maybe that was one of those things that with all
my wackage, with all these updates that happens on your programs,
on your phones and everything, sometimes you have to go
back and redo that.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Yeah, well, maybe that was meant to happen to help
the guy out. You know, he seemed like a nice guy.
He's trying to turn his life around, very respectful. I
thought he could sing very well for country music that
you know, they sounded great. Uh so, uh, yeah, did
you did you hear any of that?
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Ray? I did?
Speaker 5 (00:55):
I was listening on the iHeartRadio app and uh, he
is a he's got a good star.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
I like it. Yeah, it is a lot of people
are like, oh, he's trying to be jelly Roll. But
I mean, if you've been arrested and you're trying to
turn your life around, I mean it's a it is
a similar story. But I mean whatever, I do feel bad.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
First thing I asked him was did Jelly Roll inspire him?
Speaker 1 (01:14):
And he's like, everybody asked me that question.
Speaker 5 (01:16):
Uh, but he did kind of talk about the country
music difference. But you know what, here's what I'll say.
I think a lot of people get mad and say, oh,
you're you're being inspired by this person.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
You're trying to copy that person.
Speaker 5 (01:26):
But we're all just trying to come up with our
own little variation of something that has happened already.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Yeah, and you.
Speaker 5 (01:33):
Know, I think jally Roll also has a great story. So,
you know, good for him. I hope, I hope it
all works out for him.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Yeah, and he's got he's got some hustle. That's one thing.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Yeah, he does have some hustle.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
I like that for sure. Uh that's how you've been, man, I've.
Speaker 5 (01:46):
Been I've been well, I've been. I was in mediation
back to back yesterday. In the day before. I don't
I don't do much. I don't associally do much lawyering.
I don't do much of that kind of laying. Most
of what I do is usually in the courtroom these days.
But I had a couple of is that I've been
trying to wrap up for some friends, and so I
was back to back mediation Monday and Tuesday got two
(02:08):
cases resolved.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
So I'm good. I like.
Speaker 5 (02:12):
I like it when I feel like I'm able to win,
and normally when I walk into mediation it's hard because
like you're talking about compromise, right.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
I crushed both those mediations.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (02:22):
The lawyer yesterday was it was like four forty five
and I had my daughter had a music thing at school.
I was like, I've got a hard stop at five
point fifteen. It's like four forty five. The lawyers, whatever
you want to add to the contract, just add it.
And I was like, okay, uh so we added what
I wanted that I signed it and I was like,
you're a bad lawyer.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
I just crushed you.
Speaker 5 (02:43):
So you know what, that might be my money favorite
thing is crushing somebody's spirit at the end of mediation.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Well, there you go.
Speaker 5 (02:51):
Are as long as it's not my client, you know,
pretty of my client are.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Do you feel like you're good at mediation? That's a
that's you're you know what.
Speaker 5 (02:59):
I I think that if everybody walks into mediation prepared,
I can come up with really creative solutions that solve
any problem. I hate when people walk into mediation unprepared.
They never talk to their clients, they haven't set any expectations.
That That's the most probably mentally and physically draining.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Thing that I do as a lawyer.
Speaker 5 (03:20):
Right, So you know, I tell people I think my
skill set is best for the courtroom because it.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
Doesn't matter if the other side is prepared or not.
We've got our mission, we've got our plan. We're going
to execute flawlessly.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
But in mediation, the man in charge, absolutely, yeah, I'm
going to talk to you about that. So this is
this is adjacent. It's not the same as what you're
talking about, because mediation. Mediation is sort of like talking
to people on a committee.
Speaker 6 (03:51):
Right.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
I am so bad at being on a committee of people,
and I got to talk today to these these Ryan
the Ryan con people, the Ryan thing and and the
one being the one Ryan talking is great. I come
up with an idea. Oh that's a great idea, and
like you know, I kind of like we can run
with it and we can make it.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
This But is he really great or is he just
acquiescing to you?
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Yeah, which great?
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Yeah, because I know what I'm doing, angel I believe
it or not, how it comes to events like this,
I know what I'm doing.
Speaker 4 (04:21):
But so we warned that. We warned this guy last
time he was at the hotel him. Guys like you
do you You're about to lose your event? Are you
prepared for that?
Speaker 5 (04:29):
No?
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Or your event is actually going to be successful because
you got the man who knows how to make it happen.
You can look at it that way too. But now
I got to talk to a committee of Ryan's today,
And the last time I talked to a committee of Ryan's,
everybody's got a pinion, and you get nowhere, right, everybody's
got a different opinion and this and that, And I
am so bad at a committee of people because it's like,
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because some of these stupid people, they have dumb ideas
they worry about stuptisfication.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
That's well, I'm telling and Ray that is a private conversation, you.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Guys, guys, I'm trying to get advice from Ray.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
This is a private conversation.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
What do you do when you're talking to a committee
of people and you know they don't know what the
hell they're talking about? Uh, and you know how it
should be done?
Speaker 5 (05:12):
So I'll tell you here's this is a secret. Okay, okay,
but this is like nine out of ten it works
every time.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Okay, good, good.
Speaker 5 (05:19):
I need this so whenever I have a situation like
that and I want to be able to control the room,
but I don't want to seem like I'm controlling the room.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
I want to control the room. And write that down.
Speaker 5 (05:29):
The first thing I The first thing I do is
I I and you can use chat GPT for this.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
Just talk to your phone and have chat GPT.
Speaker 5 (05:36):
Put it together, create an agenda for exactly how the
meeting is going to go. And you're gonna says, hey, listen, guys,
I want to have the most productive meeting possible. So
what I did is I put together an agenda. I
want to have open for opening comments. And then here's
the five things I want to accomplish, and then we're
going to have a conclusion. Anybody wants to any feedback,
we'll have a conclusion, and then we'll set an agenda
(05:57):
for the next meeting.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Gotcha, that's what you're controlling this and your narrative. You're
controlling the entire meeting. But you're letting them know, Hey,
we're gonna let you, and.
Speaker 5 (06:05):
You're gonna give them opportunity to have to Yeah, you
don't have to, but you're gonna give them an opportunity
to provide feedback through your agenda.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Way, I appreciate your feedback.
Speaker 5 (06:16):
That's right, that's a really great idea. Let's let's, you know,
think about that. We'll talk about the next agenda. And
then when you and then when you prepare the next agenda,
you leave those items off. Yea, yeah, because it's stupid,
because they're stupid ideas, and you continue the pattern this way.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
This is good.
Speaker 5 (06:32):
So that way you run the whole thing and they
might be a little butt hurt about it, but when
they get was it five thousand ryans?
Speaker 3 (06:38):
How many you want to put together?
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Twenty? No, we need more than twenty three hundred and fifty, all.
Speaker 5 (06:43):
Right, So when you get twenty five hundred Ryans in
a room, they're gonna be like, they're gonna forget all
of this, and they're gonna say Russ was the man,
he ran the show, and uh, that's how you do it.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
And I can't and you know what I'm gonna say,
And you know what I'm gonna say, Ryan, I can't
even tell you about. I want to say it on
the air. But one of the things they are worried
about that is so stupid and you know what I'm
talking about, It's so stupid. And I'm like, oh my god.
And you get like five or six people, and I
think sometimes in a committee like that, everyone just wants
to feel like they've heard and they'll say.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
Them they want to say something.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
They're worried about the dumbest little thing. It's like, you
guys are just being speed bumps and we got somewhere
to get Ray.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
What would you say? Because in this context, though, and
then the and the high or the way that this
is set up, Russ is the guest.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
He's the one coming to Well. I invited that said
I can help.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
You, Ryan.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
But what I'm saying that that entity existed for the
last few years.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
We saw this on TV.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
Then you got all fired up because you want to
do another event for Ryan, and Ryan is going to
do minimal effort here. Look, just kind him a banner.
Exactly how do you do exactly what you just said.
But in this in the sense of not off putting
everyone on the board, because he like, instantly, what's going
(08:02):
to become It's going to become adversarial. They're going to
be like, and you rush again, not taking any I
think away from your accomplishments and what you can do.
But it can become adversarial with you really quick, and
they'll be like, you know what, this guy is not
worth the time. We'll figure out another way and they
might concede and do a less successful event, but at
least they feel like they did what they wanted to do.
Speaker 5 (08:25):
They need you, though, so it's not the other way around.
They need you, and so I would lean into it
if they get offended, right, they get adversarial with you, say, listen, guys, listen,
I'm not trysteping Ma's toes.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
I want to make this a great event.
Speaker 5 (08:39):
And you came to me because you think I could
help make this a great event, right, he.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Went to them, but now they're coming to me. Now
they're there. We're not going back and forth here.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
The process was, you saw this on television and story
little mixed up. Yeah, he saw this on television and
then he wanted to do something for Ryean home.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Yeah, and he thought even better that way. Actually, actually
he thought right.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
Holmes would get up off the bench and participate.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
And he's doing nothing. Russ come hell or.
Speaker 4 (09:09):
Russ come hell or high water is going to make
this event successful. This is what they don't understand. But
they're still on the outside. Look, he's on the outside
looking in, and they don't know me, and they don't
know So I'm saying, how do you accomplish what you're
saying to him? But without turning them off from the
get go.
Speaker 5 (09:24):
It's actually, actually it's actually even better that you reached
out to them.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Okay, I care about Ryan's I had.
Speaker 5 (09:32):
A Ryan, I adopted a Ry. This means a lot
to me, guys, and I'm sorry if I'm stepping on
anybody's toes.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Apologize first, But I want to make.
Speaker 5 (09:43):
Sure that this is the best possible event, and I
know I can do this.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Here's my track record.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
I've done.
Speaker 5 (09:48):
I can do this for you if you guys believe
in me. And if you don't believe me, that's okay.
I don't mind giving back some power. But if you
do believe in me, I want to do it.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
That's good. That's good.
Speaker 5 (10:00):
It's because most people are conflicted. Verse they're gonna say,
you take the power. Ah, you gotta be careful. So
the only thing you have to be careful for is
the past.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
The power go to my head.
Speaker 5 (10:09):
No, you do that. You have to be careful about
the passive aggressive people. So then what you gotta do
is you got to pull each individual Ryan in the committee,
and you guys say like.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
Hurt them against each other.
Speaker 5 (10:20):
No, not turn to gainst each other, but turn him
towards you and say, hey, listen, you're my favorite Ryan
of the group.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
I got the favorite Miami Ryan and him or buddies,
he's like, I already like him.
Speaker 4 (10:35):
Yeah, there's a female Ryan. It's already antagonistic Ryan. There's
an Asian Ryan Ryan, Asian Ryan or girl. Right.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
And when I tell an audience trust me, I wish,
I wish I could tell you the issue that the
biggest issue, but I just can't say anything I'm gonna
tell you to wait a year. I'm gonna tell Ry
Trendley and tell Angela during the break when you hear this,
what the but it's like it's like they just want
to come up with reasons to make it difficult, right,
And it's like, come on, guys.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
I've got a good one for that too. Okay, are
you ready for it?
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Can we do it after the break? I will do
it after the break. Okay, we're getting I've got a
good answer for that. We're getting class from Ray Trendley
on how to deal with a committee of people. And
all of us probably have to deal with the committee
of people sometimes. And look, I've always engineered it from
the time I graduated from high school. I've always engineered
it to where I'm just the boss because I can't
deal with a bunch of people that are stupid. It
(11:26):
drives me crazy. All right. For you, all right, don't
go anywhere. You're listening to the Monster of the morning.
This is perfect having Ray Tranley here. By the way,
Friendly Ray Trendley is an attorney and he deals with
family law, deals with divorce, deals with all kinds of
family law. You know, it has to go to court
all the time and also has mediation and mediation is
a skill that you have to learn if you work
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with a committee of people. And I'm really bad at that.
I've always been. I'd just like to take charge and like, hey, listen,
we're gonna do it this way. And I've been pretty
gave you some solid points, but you're giving me some
solid points that I can work through because I have
a meeting today with the Committee of Ryan's and basically
it will be one of those, you know, because they're
from all over the country, right like ones in Philadelphia,
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ones in Chicago. They're all over the place and and
putting this Ryan Khan together for those who are just
listening and you don't know what Ryan Khan is. They've
been doing this for three years and they want to
break the Guinness Book of World Records for getting the
most Ryan's in one area. Since we have a Ryan here,
I've got a son named Ryan. I know a lot
of people named Ryan. I thought it'd be a fun gimmick,
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you know, because it makes national news. I'm doing it
for the promotion. I'm doing it for the attention. I'm
doing it for the show. You know, it'd be fun,
but begin And I thought if we did it for
you know, for Ryan, he'd be all on top of
it and want to help out. But look at have
you met Ryan.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
Participating?
Speaker 4 (12:52):
So I have a committee much like Ryan kind of
knew that. Uh you know this is a roll of
the dice with this banner, right. I told you. I
was like, hey, this is he's not going to dig
this the way that you're digging this.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
I dig it.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
If you got me in banner, I be in more.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
I'll make you a banner. Oh, don't worry. Your banner's
trumbing buddy instead of friends. Anyway. Okay, so I make
its debut at the golf we diagree, Oh yeah, I
can't get that quickly on anyway, So okay the audience, Okay,
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so I want to help him break the record I've
had I've already had a conversation with a committee of
Ryan's and then they have to and then and then
they uh and so you guys know the one thing
that one of the things that so ridiculous, right, dulous?
Speaker 5 (13:46):
Isn't that like that something from a lawyer who is
fairly conflicted?
Speaker 3 (13:50):
Verse uh, somebody told of themselves, right, yes?
Speaker 1 (13:55):
Yeah, So so and I realized, Man, I'm gonna have
to work with a committee of people and I'm not
really in charge. I don't do well in this situation.
So I thought I would ask Ray, since you do mediation,
help me through this, because I have a meeting with
these guys today and I want to make it happen.
I want to help them make, you know, break the
record or whatever. But if it gets too crazy, like
with that thing, and then I'll just say, Okay, you can
(14:17):
do it on your own, guys, But I'd like to
make this. I'd like to make it set this world record,
and it would be January of twenty twenty seven, so
the next our next January, right.
Speaker 5 (14:28):
So a couple of other things. So one agenda always
a good idea if you want to control the meeting.
Second thing, when you get a lot of people that
are just going to be negative.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
Here, I like to I like to use metaphors.
Speaker 5 (14:39):
You make up any story from your childhood that you want,
but you know, I like to use metaphors, and I
would use a metaphor to end with the point that
my goal here is to start solving problems and not
making problems. Because what you what you don't want to say,
is you're making problems.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
Shut up. But I'm here to solve problems and not
make problems. Here's my solution.
Speaker 5 (15:02):
Do you have any other ideas for solutions, make them,
put it on the table. Solution is not the problems right,
and then everybody else in the room will will gather
to you because everybody wants a problem solver.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
Nobody wants problem makers. Nobody wants that.
Speaker 5 (15:17):
Whether they want to admit they don't want that is
another issue. But everybody wants a problem solver. That's why
people need leaders. So use that to your advantage. Find
some story from your childhood where you're like, here's where
I learned a lesson that we need to solve problems.
You know, maybe it's something your dad challenged you with
and you solve the problem. I've got my own personal
story I like to use for that. I'm gonna give
you one more tip, which I think we'll kind of
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seal the deal for you.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
Bring Ryan Holmes into the meeting. Okay, all right, he's
your ringer.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
All right, you can be a part of the meeting today.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
Do you want to today?
Speaker 1 (15:49):
Yeah? Today?
Speaker 4 (15:51):
Today, Man, he's probably got something booked to look another
cruise or something.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Two o'clock today, I can you don't have a life,
stop it.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
They had nothing going on two o'clock.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
You know what you should you know what I should
have included? Yeah, all these meetings. You got to be
there from now on two o'clock today. You need to
be there. I can't do today? Why not?
Speaker 3 (16:11):
And I got doctors? Oh my god, you can do
it from the doctor's appointment.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Yeah, I thought.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
Yesterday, I go to multiple doctors high become member. He's
getting getting ready for the old Oh.
Speaker 5 (16:20):
Yeah, yeah, I gotta do That's that's like my worst nightmare.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
Actually, have you had one?
Speaker 5 (16:24):
No, I probably won't go until I, you know, need
to for what.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
You do need Ryan though, Russ, because this is the
other point I was going to ask Ray about this. Yeah,
the age disparity here is old man.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
No, no, no, no, I'm not doing that.
Speaker 4 (16:41):
But but I mean it's.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Passive aggressive because what.
Speaker 4 (16:49):
Doesn't know If I was going to call him on boomer,
i'd call him boomer to his face. But these kids
that you're talking to, they're gonna be like, oh this
boom Er, what does he know?
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Right? See what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (16:58):
So you need him to kind of co sign you
that you are the best way to do this.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
And I think you actually did just call me olding.
Let me be honest with you. I said, you're good
at what you do. Do you have your hearing aids
in this meeting? I do? I am.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
Are you familiar with the concept of a fluffer? Yeah,
all right, so if you want to show up, if
you want to show up and perform and have a fluffer, yeah,
that's gonna be Ryan.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
Ryan's a fluffer. You're not Ryan's gonna go in there. Yeah,
you gotta hype me up, hype you up? You ready,
like this guy's this guy plays the best events.
Speaker 6 (17:35):
Fluffer first off, it's like a biker gang. That's how
we ryanus like to look at. Okay, you got your
prospect and I got to bring you in to see if.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
You're coming some way?
Speaker 3 (17:43):
Too cool?
Speaker 1 (17:44):
No, no cool.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
You're really his fluffer and you're gonna hype him up.
You're a fluffer teaching around.
Speaker 6 (17:50):
Um, you're absolutely right, though, I should be in these meetings.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
Okay, from now on, I'm including you in the meetings. Okay,
you gotta be there.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
I can't today that why I.
Speaker 5 (18:02):
Have a doctor you need to be there for thirty seconds.
I'm Ryan Holmes, I'm one of the message I'm one
of the ansars in the morning and and uh, and
I've seen Russ do really incredible things, guys, and I'm
so thankful. I'm so thankful that he brought me in
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to this meeting. I have a doctor's appointment, but it
was really important that I'm here because I want you
guys to know we got a plan.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
He's right about that, and and they.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
I would go a long way.
Speaker 5 (18:34):
And that's like social it's like social proof that Russ
knows what he's doing.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
Because if if Rush just says.
Speaker 5 (18:39):
Like, hey, guys, I know what I'm doing right now,
like swing and you know what, Uh, they're not going
to listen to that.
Speaker 6 (18:46):
But now, like Russ has a friend named Ryan, but
he goes to a different school, and you wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
Know, Yes, exactly, that's exactly what it is.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
And you're one in them.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
So what happens is then it's like, okay, hold on,
we're speaking to him, but eight a minute, there's one
of us here.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
They want to do the secret handshake, though we can't have.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
Ryan handshake, Like I've created a Ryan like I have
a Ryan.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
I got left his body and was formed into a
human being.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
I mean half a ride.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
He had a Rye, his soul became a Ryan.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
Yeah, what what do you do if you're in a
meeting like this, committee meeting like this, and you're like, Okay,
you know I'm going to take control. But then there's
another person think they're going to do all the same
tricks that you're just trying to do, and they think
they're going to take control.
Speaker 5 (19:39):
So then you have to get creative and you got
to get another Ryan in the group to give you
that control. So like the Ryan you like say, hey, listen, dude,
I don't think that we're being as productive as we
can be. I've put together an agenda. I want to
bring my Ryan in and and.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
Here's what I want to do.
Speaker 5 (19:57):
I need I need to know that you've got my back,
because now you've got one of the Ryans who's also
going to get your back.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
So this is like survivor.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
And now you've got a coalition of Ryan's.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Okay, that's gonna support you, gotcha, okay, And then other.
Speaker 5 (20:10):
Guy is gonna go fall fly in his face because
he's never done this before. But this is exactly how
business gets done.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
Okay, there you go.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
This is going to cause a breakup of the Ryans
and they're going to.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Wins.
Speaker 5 (20:22):
I can't promise that long term this is going to
be successful, but.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
You will run the meeting and you will get what
you want.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
It's Ruskhan, not a lot of Russes. Not a lot
of Russes, but Ryan Khan. We can make happen.
Speaker 5 (20:37):
I think you can make it happen. All you need
is Ryan Holmes to participate and get you going.
Speaker 4 (20:43):
To wait for you to Obviously you can't replay the
actual conversation the meeting, but is there a wait that
we can get it recorded, transcribed, transcribed, and then maybe
through the creative process of radio Ryan, I can recreate
if it's just if it goes as sideways as is,
I think it's gonna go. Do you think it's again,
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understand what I am saying to you. I've been a
huge advocate of you this whole conversation.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
I will properly.
Speaker 4 (21:09):
I think I don't think that you're the problem here.
The thing that problem is is the age separation. And
I think the fact that again they're gonna view you
as hostile because it's like, hey, this is our thing.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
What's this guy know? I'm only being hostile with you guys.
I'm gonna be very cool and calm and none.
Speaker 4 (21:24):
Of those words that you just used to describe yourself.
You have not never, not in negotiations.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
Okay, So what do I do? And I know we
got time and everything. What do I do if somebody
says something really stupid like that, like the idea that
and I'm and I'm so flabbergasted that the stupidity of
what they say just hang out? How should I handle it?
Should like you just try to be calm and say,
well that's interesting, or like what's the best way to
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handle dumb thing that was at idea?
Speaker 3 (21:56):
I'm gonna write it down.
Speaker 6 (21:57):
I'm gonna write it down, I think to write how old?
Speaker 3 (22:01):
How old are the people that you're speaking to? Roughly twelve?
Speaker 1 (22:03):
They were in their thirties and forty.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
That's problem, I guess.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
But everybody's invited, like anyone with the name Ryan, and
they wanted to make sure kids could.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
Come in this meeting.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
They were all about thirty to forty.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
Okay, So you just say I heard what you said,
and I appreciate you bringing that to our attention.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
This is oh god, I'm hanging up already. What you
understand at that point?
Speaker 4 (22:27):
Restaurantands, they come off some of the sideways like that.
You just look at them, stare at all of them.
You are not serious people. Well that's how I normally ask.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
I don't know people.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
I hate you.
Speaker 5 (22:39):
I think you take a point from Angelique. I think
you say, listen, I'm going to write it down. Let's
add it to the agenda for next time, and and
then just don't add it to the agenda next time.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
There's no idea. So if it's a really dumb day,
say you know, I don't want to lie. Yeah, that's
a good idea. Say oh I heard that's interesting. Let
me write that down.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
Yeah, exactly. And it's what you do under no patal anyway.
Speaker 5 (22:59):
Just do the same thing, stupid idea.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
Make sure they can't help.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
And move on.
Speaker 6 (23:06):
You just look at me and go, we're gonna add
that to my amende and then that's it and you
move on to what my amendy?
Speaker 1 (23:11):
What's amdy amendys? No?
Speaker 3 (23:18):
I like that one. That was a good one.
Speaker 6 (23:21):
Guys, get your symbol in my thank you right, mental symbol,
mental symbol.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
I was waiting for it. I was like, thank you,
thank you for giving me a class meeting that was
basically mediation class. Right.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
Yeah, man, you gotta know how to work the people.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
You got this rush, You're gonna rush this. We got it.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
We needed your fluffer show off.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
And so two o'clock today you gotta bends ninety?
Speaker 3 (23:46):
Can you push it to two fifteen?
Speaker 1 (23:48):
And I already moved it once. I can't move it again. Well,
he can't move it too fifteen. They're gonna think he's
not serious.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
Yeah, you can't get that. He's in charge of the meeting.
What Jack Bradshaw does You changed the time and locations?
Speaker 1 (24:00):
Power move So what do you do? Are you just
checking in it too? Checking in the doctors and too?
I don't know are they Are they doing the doctor's appointment?
Speaker 6 (24:07):
And I know my doctor's appointments at one forty five,
so I'll be well into it at two o'clock.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
Waiting, will still be waiting.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
Come on, let's be.
Speaker 4 (24:15):
Around, zoom manor you tell your doctor hold on, sir,
I got it to do this phone.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
Call, all right?
Speaker 6 (24:20):
Yeah, I be doing my butt ass out while somebody's
back there.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
Don't do a white please do that.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
You should that's the power move.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
What are you doing? I'm buctology exam got a super zoom.
That's how serious I take it.
Speaker 6 (24:39):
This meeting was a pain in the ass.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
Ray Trandly, thank you so much.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
I appreciate you, guys.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
I will take all that advice to heart. I will
use that today.
Speaker 5 (24:49):
I also think you should have the image of your
new hummer as like your your profile picture. That way
they know, like this guy's legit.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
Yeah I got yeah, I think so too.
Speaker 3 (24:59):
No, or do it from the cockplit of the hummer.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
I could do that.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
Oh yeah, sorry, my new hummer's driving me home.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
I could sit. I could sit out in front of
my house late in front of the hummer. It'll be
behind me. I love that. Okay, good, thank you, thank you, Ray,
I appreciate it. All right, don't go anywhere you're listening
to the manch of the Morning.
I didn't know how that was going to turn out.
That was a random phone call that came to Uh,
they came to my I don't know how people call
him Facebook. I thought I blocked all that.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
I thought I did too. And then when he called
and I even told me, oh, he called me yesterday
and he called me this morning, I don't know who
this is, so I'm not answering. And I told him
on the walkout, I said, hey, man, sorry, I don't
answer phone calls from there. I didn't even know it
could come through my phone like that. Like you, I
thought I had blocked all of that.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
I did too.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
I wish that will be happening.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
Maybe that was one of those things that with all
my wackage, with all these updates that happens on your programs,
on your phones and everything, sometimes you have to go
back and redo that.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Yeah, well, maybe that was meant to happen to help
the guy out. You know, he seemed like a nice guy.
He's trying to turn his life around, very respectful. I
thought he could sing very well for country music that
you know, they sounded great. Uh so, uh, yeah, did
you did you hear any of that?
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Ray? I did?
Speaker 5 (00:55):
I was listening on the iHeartRadio app and uh, he
is a he's got a good star.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
I like it. Yeah, it is a lot of people
are like, oh, he's trying to be jelly Roll. But
I mean, if you've been arrested and you're trying to
turn your life around, I mean it's a it is
a similar story. But I mean whatever, I do feel bad.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
First thing I asked him was did Jelly Roll inspire him?
Speaker 1 (01:14):
And he's like, everybody asked me that question.
Speaker 5 (01:16):
Uh, but he did kind of talk about the country
music difference. But you know what, here's what I'll say.
I think a lot of people get mad and say, oh,
you're you're being inspired by this person.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
You're trying to copy that person.
Speaker 5 (01:26):
But we're all just trying to come up with our
own little variation of something that has happened already.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Yeah, and you.
Speaker 5 (01:33):
Know, I think jally Roll also has a great story. So,
you know, good for him. I hope, I hope it
all works out for him.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Yeah, and he's got he's got some hustle. That's one thing.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Yeah, he does have some hustle.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
I like that for sure. Uh that's how you've been, man, I've.
Speaker 5 (01:46):
Been I've been well, I've been. I was in mediation
back to back yesterday. In the day before. I don't
I don't do much. I don't associally do much lawyering.
I don't do much of that kind of laying. Most
of what I do is usually in the courtroom these days.
But I had a couple of is that I've been
trying to wrap up for some friends, and so I
was back to back mediation Monday and Tuesday got two
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cases resolved.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
So I'm good. I like.
Speaker 5 (02:12):
I like it when I feel like I'm able to win,
and normally when I walk into mediation it's hard because
like you're talking about compromise, right.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
I crushed both those mediations.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (02:22):
The lawyer yesterday was it was like four forty five
and I had my daughter had a music thing at school.
I was like, I've got a hard stop at five
point fifteen. It's like four forty five. The lawyers, whatever
you want to add to the contract, just add it.
And I was like, okay, uh so we added what
I wanted that I signed it and I was like,
you're a bad lawyer.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
I just crushed you.
Speaker 5 (02:43):
So you know what, that might be my money favorite
thing is crushing somebody's spirit at the end of mediation.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Well, there you go.
Speaker 5 (02:51):
Are as long as it's not my client, you know,
pretty of my client are.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Do you feel like you're good at mediation? That's a
that's you're you know what.
Speaker 5 (02:59):
I I think that if everybody walks into mediation prepared,
I can come up with really creative solutions that solve
any problem. I hate when people walk into mediation unprepared.
They never talk to their clients, they haven't set any expectations.
That That's the most probably mentally and physically draining.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Thing that I do as a lawyer.
Speaker 5 (03:20):
Right, So you know, I tell people I think my
skill set is best for the courtroom because it.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
Doesn't matter if the other side is prepared or not.
We've got our mission, we've got our plan. We're going
to execute flawlessly.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
But in mediation, the man in charge, absolutely, yeah, I'm
going to talk to you about that. So this is
this is adjacent. It's not the same as what you're
talking about, because mediation. Mediation is sort of like talking
to people on a committee.
Speaker 6 (03:51):
Right.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
I am so bad at being on a committee of people,
and I got to talk today to these these Ryan
the Ryan con people, the Ryan thing and and the
one being the one Ryan talking is great. I come
up with an idea. Oh that's a great idea, and
like you know, I kind of like we can run
with it and we can make it.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
This But is he really great or is he just
acquiescing to you?
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Yeah, which great?
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Yeah, because I know what I'm doing, angel I believe
it or not, how it comes to events like this,
I know what I'm doing.
Speaker 4 (04:21):
But so we warned that. We warned this guy last
time he was at the hotel him. Guys like you
do you You're about to lose your event? Are you
prepared for that?
Speaker 5 (04:29):
No?
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Or your event is actually going to be successful because
you got the man who knows how to make it happen.
You can look at it that way too. But now
I got to talk to a committee of Ryan's today,
And the last time I talked to a committee of Ryan's,
everybody's got a pinion, and you get nowhere, right, everybody's
got a different opinion and this and that, And I
am so bad at a committee of people because it's like,
(04:53):
because some of these stupid people, they have dumb ideas
they worry about stuptisfication.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
That's well, I'm telling and Ray that is a private conversation, you.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Guys, guys, I'm trying to get advice from Ray.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
This is a private conversation.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
What do you do when you're talking to a committee
of people and you know they don't know what the
hell they're talking about? Uh, and you know how it
should be done?
Speaker 5 (05:12):
So I'll tell you here's this is a secret. Okay, okay,
but this is like nine out of ten it works
every time.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Okay, good, good.
Speaker 5 (05:19):
I need this so whenever I have a situation like
that and I want to be able to control the room,
but I don't want to seem like I'm controlling the room.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
I want to control the room. And write that down.
Speaker 5 (05:29):
The first thing I The first thing I do is
I I and you can use chat GPT for this.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
Just talk to your phone and have chat GPT.
Speaker 5 (05:36):
Put it together, create an agenda for exactly how the
meeting is going to go. And you're gonna says, hey, listen, guys,
I want to have the most productive meeting possible. So
what I did is I put together an agenda. I
want to have open for opening comments. And then here's
the five things I want to accomplish, and then we're
going to have a conclusion. Anybody wants to any feedback,
we'll have a conclusion, and then we'll set an agenda
(05:57):
for the next meeting.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Gotcha, that's what you're controlling this and your narrative. You're
controlling the entire meeting. But you're letting them know, Hey,
we're gonna let you, and.
Speaker 5 (06:05):
You're gonna give them opportunity to have to Yeah, you
don't have to, but you're gonna give them an opportunity
to provide feedback through your agenda.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Way, I appreciate your feedback.
Speaker 5 (06:16):
That's right, that's a really great idea. Let's let's, you know,
think about that. We'll talk about the next agenda. And
then when you and then when you prepare the next agenda,
you leave those items off. Yea, yeah, because it's stupid,
because they're stupid ideas, and you continue the pattern this way.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
This is good.
Speaker 5 (06:32):
So that way you run the whole thing and they
might be a little butt hurt about it, but when
they get was it five thousand ryans?
Speaker 3 (06:38):
How many you want to put together?
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Twenty? No, we need more than twenty three hundred and fifty, all.
Speaker 5 (06:43):
Right, So when you get twenty five hundred Ryans in
a room, they're gonna be like, they're gonna forget all
of this, and they're gonna say Russ was the man,
he ran the show, and uh, that's how you do it.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
And I can't and you know what I'm gonna say,
And you know what I'm gonna say, Ryan, I can't
even tell you about. I want to say it on
the air. But one of the things they are worried
about that is so stupid and you know what I'm
talking about, It's so stupid. And I'm like, oh my god.
And you get like five or six people, and I
think sometimes in a committee like that, everyone just wants
to feel like they've heard and they'll say.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
Them they want to say something.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
They're worried about the dumbest little thing. It's like, you
guys are just being speed bumps and we got somewhere
to get Ray.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
What would you say? Because in this context, though, and
then the and the high or the way that this
is set up, Russ is the guest.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
He's the one coming to Well. I invited that said
I can help.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
You, Ryan.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
But what I'm saying that that entity existed for the
last few years.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
We saw this on TV.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
Then you got all fired up because you want to
do another event for Ryan, and Ryan is going to
do minimal effort here. Look, just kind him a banner.
Exactly how do you do exactly what you just said.
But in this in the sense of not off putting
everyone on the board, because he like, instantly, what's going
(08:02):
to become It's going to become adversarial. They're going to
be like, and you rush again, not taking any I
think away from your accomplishments and what you can do.
But it can become adversarial with you really quick, and
they'll be like, you know what, this guy is not
worth the time. We'll figure out another way and they
might concede and do a less successful event, but at
least they feel like they did what they wanted to do.
Speaker 5 (08:25):
They need you, though, so it's not the other way around.
They need you, and so I would lean into it
if they get offended, right, they get adversarial with you, say, listen, guys, listen,
I'm not trysteping Ma's toes.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
I want to make this a great event.
Speaker 5 (08:39):
And you came to me because you think I could
help make this a great event, right, he.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Went to them, but now they're coming to me. Now
they're there. We're not going back and forth here.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
The process was, you saw this on television and story
little mixed up. Yeah, he saw this on television and
then he wanted to do something for Ryean home.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Yeah, and he thought even better that way. Actually, actually
he thought right.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
Holmes would get up off the bench and participate.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
And he's doing nothing. Russ come hell or.
Speaker 4 (09:09):
Russ come hell or high water is going to make
this event successful. This is what they don't understand. But
they're still on the outside. Look, he's on the outside
looking in, and they don't know me, and they don't
know So I'm saying, how do you accomplish what you're
saying to him? But without turning them off from the
get go.
Speaker 5 (09:24):
It's actually, actually it's actually even better that you reached
out to them.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Okay, I care about Ryan's I had.
Speaker 5 (09:32):
A Ryan, I adopted a Ry. This means a lot
to me, guys, and I'm sorry if I'm stepping on
anybody's toes.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Apologize first, But I want to make.
Speaker 5 (09:43):
Sure that this is the best possible event, and I
know I can do this.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Here's my track record.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
I've done.
Speaker 5 (09:48):
I can do this for you if you guys believe
in me. And if you don't believe me, that's okay.
I don't mind giving back some power. But if you
do believe in me, I want to do it.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
That's good. That's good.
Speaker 5 (10:00):
It's because most people are conflicted. Verse they're gonna say,
you take the power. Ah, you gotta be careful. So
the only thing you have to be careful for is
the past.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
The power go to my head.
Speaker 5 (10:09):
No, you do that. You have to be careful about
the passive aggressive people. So then what you gotta do
is you got to pull each individual Ryan in the committee,
and you guys say like.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
Hurt them against each other.
Speaker 5 (10:20):
No, not turn to gainst each other, but turn him
towards you and say, hey, listen, you're my favorite Ryan
of the group.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
I got the favorite Miami Ryan and him or buddies,
he's like, I already like him.
Speaker 4 (10:35):
Yeah, there's a female Ryan. It's already antagonistic Ryan. There's
an Asian Ryan Ryan, Asian Ryan or girl. Right.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
And when I tell an audience trust me, I wish,
I wish I could tell you the issue that the
biggest issue, but I just can't say anything I'm gonna
tell you to wait a year. I'm gonna tell Ry
Trendley and tell Angela during the break when you hear this,
what the but it's like it's like they just want
to come up with reasons to make it difficult, right,
And it's like, come on, guys.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
I've got a good one for that too. Okay, are
you ready for it?
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Can we do it after the break? I will do
it after the break. Okay, we're getting I've got a
good answer for that. We're getting class from Ray Trendley
on how to deal with a committee of people. And
all of us probably have to deal with the committee
of people sometimes. And look, I've always engineered it from
the time I graduated from high school. I've always engineered
it to where I'm just the boss because I can't
deal with a bunch of people that are stupid. It
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drives me crazy. All right. For you, all right, don't
go anywhere. You're listening to the Monster of the morning.
This is perfect having Ray Tranley here. By the way,
Friendly Ray Trendley is an attorney and he deals with
family law, deals with divorce, deals with all kinds of
family law. You know, it has to go to court
all the time and also has mediation and mediation is
a skill that you have to learn if you work
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with a committee of people. And I'm really bad at that.
I've always been. I'd just like to take charge and like, hey, listen,
we're gonna do it this way. And I've been pretty
gave you some solid points, but you're giving me some
solid points that I can work through because I have
a meeting today with the Committee of Ryan's and basically
it will be one of those, you know, because they're
from all over the country, right like ones in Philadelphia,
(12:09):
ones in Chicago. They're all over the place and and
putting this Ryan Khan together for those who are just
listening and you don't know what Ryan Khan is. They've
been doing this for three years and they want to
break the Guinness Book of World Records for getting the
most Ryan's in one area. Since we have a Ryan here,
I've got a son named Ryan. I know a lot
of people named Ryan. I thought it'd be a fun gimmick,
(12:30):
you know, because it makes national news. I'm doing it
for the promotion. I'm doing it for the attention. I'm
doing it for the show. You know, it'd be fun,
but begin And I thought if we did it for
you know, for Ryan, he'd be all on top of
it and want to help out. But look at have
you met Ryan.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
Participating?
Speaker 4 (12:52):
So I have a committee much like Ryan kind of
knew that. Uh you know this is a roll of
the dice with this banner, right. I told you. I
was like, hey, this is he's not going to dig
this the way that you're digging this.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
I dig it.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
If you got me in banner, I be in more.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
I'll make you a banner. Oh, don't worry. Your banner's
trumbing buddy instead of friends. Anyway. Okay, so I make
its debut at the golf we diagree, Oh yeah, I
can't get that quickly on anyway, So okay the audience, Okay,
(13:31):
so I want to help him break the record I've
had I've already had a conversation with a committee of
Ryan's and then they have to and then and then
they uh and so you guys know the one thing
that one of the things that so ridiculous, right, dulous?
Speaker 5 (13:46):
Isn't that like that something from a lawyer who is
fairly conflicted?
Speaker 3 (13:50):
Verse uh, somebody told of themselves, right, yes?
Speaker 1 (13:55):
Yeah, So so and I realized, Man, I'm gonna have
to work with a committee of people and I'm not
really in charge. I don't do well in this situation.
So I thought I would ask Ray, since you do mediation,
help me through this, because I have a meeting with
these guys today and I want to make it happen.
I want to help them make, you know, break the
record or whatever. But if it gets too crazy, like
with that thing, and then I'll just say, Okay, you can
(14:17):
do it on your own, guys, But I'd like to
make this. I'd like to make it set this world record,
and it would be January of twenty twenty seven, so
the next our next January, right.
Speaker 5 (14:28):
So a couple of other things. So one agenda always
a good idea if you want to control the meeting.
Second thing, when you get a lot of people that
are just going to be negative.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
Here, I like to I like to use metaphors.
Speaker 5 (14:39):
You make up any story from your childhood that you want,
but you know, I like to use metaphors, and I
would use a metaphor to end with the point that
my goal here is to start solving problems and not
making problems. Because what you what you don't want to say,
is you're making problems.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
Shut up. But I'm here to solve problems and not
make problems. Here's my solution.
Speaker 5 (15:02):
Do you have any other ideas for solutions, make them,
put it on the table. Solution is not the problems right,
and then everybody else in the room will will gather
to you because everybody wants a problem solver.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
Nobody wants problem makers. Nobody wants that.
Speaker 5 (15:17):
Whether they want to admit they don't want that is
another issue. But everybody wants a problem solver. That's why
people need leaders. So use that to your advantage. Find
some story from your childhood where you're like, here's where
I learned a lesson that we need to solve problems.
You know, maybe it's something your dad challenged you with
and you solve the problem. I've got my own personal
story I like to use for that. I'm gonna give
you one more tip, which I think we'll kind of
(15:39):
seal the deal for you.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
Bring Ryan Holmes into the meeting. Okay, all right, he's
your ringer.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
All right, you can be a part of the meeting today.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
Do you want to today?
Speaker 1 (15:49):
Yeah? Today?
Speaker 4 (15:51):
Today, Man, he's probably got something booked to look another
cruise or something.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Two o'clock today, I can you don't have a life,
stop it.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
They had nothing going on two o'clock.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
You know what you should you know what I should
have included? Yeah, all these meetings. You got to be
there from now on two o'clock today. You need to
be there. I can't do today? Why not?
Speaker 3 (16:11):
And I got doctors? Oh my god, you can do
it from the doctor's appointment.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Yeah, I thought.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
Yesterday, I go to multiple doctors high become member. He's
getting getting ready for the old Oh.
Speaker 5 (16:20):
Yeah, yeah, I gotta do That's that's like my worst nightmare.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
Actually, have you had one?
Speaker 5 (16:24):
No, I probably won't go until I, you know, need
to for what.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
You do need Ryan though, Russ, because this is the
other point I was going to ask Ray about this. Yeah,
the age disparity here is old man.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
No, no, no, no, I'm not doing that.
Speaker 4 (16:41):
But but I mean it's.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Passive aggressive because what.
Speaker 4 (16:49):
Doesn't know If I was going to call him on boomer,
i'd call him boomer to his face. But these kids
that you're talking to, they're gonna be like, oh this
boom Er, what does he know?
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Right? See what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (16:58):
So you need him to kind of co sign you
that you are the best way to do this.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
And I think you actually did just call me olding.
Let me be honest with you. I said, you're good
at what you do. Do you have your hearing aids
in this meeting? I do? I am.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
Are you familiar with the concept of a fluffer? Yeah,
all right, so if you want to show up, if
you want to show up and perform and have a fluffer, yeah,
that's gonna be Ryan.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
Ryan's a fluffer. You're not Ryan's gonna go in there. Yeah,
you gotta hype me up, hype you up? You ready,
like this guy's this guy plays the best events.
Speaker 6 (17:35):
Fluffer first off, it's like a biker gang. That's how
we ryanus like to look at. Okay, you got your
prospect and I got to bring you in to see if.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
You're coming some way?
Speaker 3 (17:43):
Too cool?
Speaker 1 (17:44):
No, no cool.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
You're really his fluffer and you're gonna hype him up.
You're a fluffer teaching around.
Speaker 6 (17:50):
Um, you're absolutely right, though, I should be in these meetings.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
Okay, from now on, I'm including you in the meetings. Okay,
you gotta be there.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
I can't today that why I.
Speaker 5 (18:02):
Have a doctor you need to be there for thirty seconds.
I'm Ryan Holmes, I'm one of the message I'm one
of the ansars in the morning and and uh, and
I've seen Russ do really incredible things, guys, and I'm
so thankful. I'm so thankful that he brought me in
(18:23):
to this meeting. I have a doctor's appointment, but it
was really important that I'm here because I want you
guys to know we got a plan.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
He's right about that, and and they.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
I would go a long way.
Speaker 5 (18:34):
And that's like social it's like social proof that Russ
knows what he's doing.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
Because if if Rush just says.
Speaker 5 (18:39):
Like, hey, guys, I know what I'm doing right now,
like swing and you know what, Uh, they're not going
to listen to that.
Speaker 6 (18:46):
But now, like Russ has a friend named Ryan, but
he goes to a different school, and you wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
Know, Yes, exactly, that's exactly what it is.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
And you're one in them.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
So what happens is then it's like, okay, hold on,
we're speaking to him, but eight a minute, there's one
of us here.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
They want to do the secret handshake, though we can't have.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
Ryan handshake, Like I've created a Ryan like I have
a Ryan.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
I got left his body and was formed into a
human being.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
I mean half a ride.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
He had a Rye, his soul became a Ryan.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
Yeah, what what do you do if you're in a
meeting like this, committee meeting like this, and you're like, Okay,
you know I'm going to take control. But then there's
another person think they're going to do all the same
tricks that you're just trying to do, and they think
they're going to take control.
Speaker 5 (19:39):
So then you have to get creative and you got
to get another Ryan in the group to give you
that control. So like the Ryan you like say, hey, listen, dude,
I don't think that we're being as productive as we
can be. I've put together an agenda. I want to
bring my Ryan in and and.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
Here's what I want to do.
Speaker 5 (19:57):
I need I need to know that you've got my back,
because now you've got one of the Ryans who's also
going to get your back.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
So this is like survivor.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
And now you've got a coalition of Ryan's.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Okay, that's gonna support you, gotcha, okay, And then other.
Speaker 5 (20:10):
Guy is gonna go fall fly in his face because
he's never done this before. But this is exactly how
business gets done.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
Okay, there you go.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
This is going to cause a breakup of the Ryans
and they're going to.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Wins.
Speaker 5 (20:22):
I can't promise that long term this is going to
be successful, but.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
You will run the meeting and you will get what
you want.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
It's Ruskhan, not a lot of Russes. Not a lot
of Russes, but Ryan Khan. We can make happen.
Speaker 5 (20:37):
I think you can make it happen. All you need
is Ryan Holmes to participate and get you going.
Speaker 4 (20:43):
To wait for you to Obviously you can't replay the
actual conversation the meeting, but is there a wait that
we can get it recorded, transcribed, transcribed, and then maybe
through the creative process of radio Ryan, I can recreate
if it's just if it goes as sideways as is,
I think it's gonna go. Do you think it's again,
(21:04):
understand what I am saying to you. I've been a
huge advocate of you this whole conversation.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
I will properly.
Speaker 4 (21:09):
I think I don't think that you're the problem here.
The thing that problem is is the age separation. And
I think the fact that again they're gonna view you
as hostile because it's like, hey, this is our thing.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
What's this guy know? I'm only being hostile with you guys.
I'm gonna be very cool and calm and none.
Speaker 4 (21:24):
Of those words that you just used to describe yourself.
You have not never, not in negotiations.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
Okay, So what do I do? And I know we
got time and everything. What do I do if somebody
says something really stupid like that, like the idea that
and I'm and I'm so flabbergasted that the stupidity of
what they say just hang out? How should I handle it?
Should like you just try to be calm and say,
well that's interesting, or like what's the best way to
(21:52):
handle dumb thing that was at idea?
Speaker 3 (21:56):
I'm gonna write it down.
Speaker 6 (21:57):
I'm gonna write it down, I think to write how old?
Speaker 3 (22:01):
How old are the people that you're speaking to? Roughly twelve?
Speaker 1 (22:03):
They were in their thirties and forty.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
That's problem, I guess.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
But everybody's invited, like anyone with the name Ryan, and
they wanted to make sure kids could.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
Come in this meeting.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
They were all about thirty to forty.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
Okay, So you just say I heard what you said,
and I appreciate you bringing that to our attention.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
This is oh god, I'm hanging up already. What you
understand at that point?
Speaker 4 (22:27):
Restaurantands, they come off some of the sideways like that.
You just look at them, stare at all of them.
You are not serious people. Well that's how I normally ask.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
I don't know people.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
I hate you.
Speaker 5 (22:39):
I think you take a point from Angelique. I think
you say, listen, I'm going to write it down. Let's
add it to the agenda for next time, and and
then just don't add it to the agenda next time.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
There's no idea. So if it's a really dumb day,
say you know, I don't want to lie. Yeah, that's
a good idea. Say oh I heard that's interesting. Let
me write that down.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
Yeah, exactly. And it's what you do under no patal anyway.
Speaker 5 (22:59):
Just do the same thing, stupid idea.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
Make sure they can't help.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
And move on.
Speaker 6 (23:06):
You just look at me and go, we're gonna add
that to my amende and then that's it and you
move on to what my amendy?
Speaker 1 (23:11):
What's amdy amendys? No?
Speaker 3 (23:18):
I like that one. That was a good one.
Speaker 6 (23:21):
Guys, get your symbol in my thank you right, mental symbol,
mental symbol.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
I was waiting for it. I was like, thank you,
thank you for giving me a class meeting that was
basically mediation class. Right.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
Yeah, man, you gotta know how to work the people.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
You got this rush, You're gonna rush this. We got it.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
We needed your fluffer show off.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
And so two o'clock today you gotta bends ninety?
Speaker 3 (23:46):
Can you push it to two fifteen?
Speaker 1 (23:48):
And I already moved it once. I can't move it again. Well,
he can't move it too fifteen. They're gonna think he's
not serious.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
Yeah, you can't get that. He's in charge of the meeting.
What Jack Bradshaw does You changed the time and locations?
Speaker 1 (24:00):
Power move So what do you do? Are you just
checking in it too? Checking in the doctors and too?
I don't know are they Are they doing the doctor's appointment?
Speaker 6 (24:07):
And I know my doctor's appointments at one forty five,
so I'll be well into it at two o'clock.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
Waiting, will still be waiting.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
Come on, let's be.
Speaker 4 (24:15):
Around, zoom manor you tell your doctor hold on, sir,
I got it to do this phone.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
Call, all right?
Speaker 6 (24:20):
Yeah, I be doing my butt ass out while somebody's
back there.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
Don't do a white please do that.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
You should that's the power move.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
What are you doing? I'm buctology exam got a super zoom.
That's how serious I take it.
Speaker 6 (24:39):
This meeting was a pain in the ass.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
Ray Trandly, thank you so much.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
I appreciate you, guys.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
I will take all that advice to heart. I will
use that today.
Speaker 5 (24:49):
I also think you should have the image of your
new hummer as like your your profile picture. That way
they know, like this guy's legit.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
Yeah I got yeah, I think so too.
Speaker 3 (24:59):
No, or do it from the cockplit of the hummer.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
I could do that.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
Oh yeah, sorry, my new hummer's driving me home.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
I could sit. I could sit out in front of
my house late in front of the hummer. It'll be
behind me. I love that. Okay, good, thank you, thank you, Ray,
I appreciate it. All right, don't go anywhere you're listening
to the manch of the Morning.
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