April 29, 2026 • 27 mins
On the Monsters Attorney "Friendly" Ray Traendly of TK Law discusses addiction problems in marriage and the OpenAI lawsuit between Elon Musk and Sam Altman.
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Yeah.
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And then my favorite part, you know, I love the
people part of the brew Bus. You know so many
times that when I meet people and specifically listeners, it's
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Speaker 1 (02:21):
Yeah, they go to see a lawyer. Usually it's not
for good.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
They're getting sued, or they're suing somebody, they're getting divorced,
or it's usually not great fun stuff. So it's kind
of cool to see people in their natural habitat, yeah,
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I've was a listener for on the radio for a
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with other fans. So I love that part.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
So let's talk about divorce and gambling. Yeah, talk about it.
It's come up a lot this week. It's kind up
a lot for me too. So so let me question,
like you do a lot of divorces, how many years
you've been doing divorce.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
It would be fifteen years of September fifteen years.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Like, how many of those divorces do you think gambling
was brought up? You know, like it was a part
of the issue.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
I say, probably a good third. You know it's probably third. Really, Yeah,
that's a lot. It is a lot.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
You know.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
It underlines I think the most common issue that I hear,
which is inability to communicate effectively. Ah, and so I
get that. And so when people are talking about the
gambling issue, a lot of times it's we don't see
eye to eye on how we should be spending our money.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
And you know, Ray, it's funny that you bring that up,
because in this whole conversation it seems as if men
look at it one way and women seem to look
at another. Work this whole thing with Ryan, whether he
should cash out today and take the fifteen thousand dollars
and get his house fixed like his wife wants him
to do, or you know, let it ride. It only
cost him one hundred and fifty bucks before this to
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even start. Let it ride. And if they win one
more game, he gets thirty four thousand dollars. Most dudes
are on that side let it ride, and most women
are being logical and saying, oh no, no, you need
you need to get the house fixed. If you cash
up right now, it's all of course, that makes sense.
Have you found that that's the communication problem usually is
that men look at things differently than women.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
I think that's a that's a very big component of it,
because I think we could all agree that men and
women do see the world a little bit differently.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Yeah, we're not insane.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Your words, I definitely my wife. My wife may be listening.
My wife is definitely not insane.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
Chef's single, you got nobody answered to and voluntarily yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
Ray.
Speaker 5 (04:45):
Since gambling has gone like mainstream though, I mean like
pretty much available in everybody's pocket at this point, has
the divorce rate for gambling for you gone?
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Good question?
Speaker 2 (04:56):
I don't know if I could say so. I mean,
overall over the over the country, we see divorce rates
going down, but we're also seeing marriage.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Rates going Yeah, less people getting married.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
I think people are being a little bit more selective.
But I will say there's a correlation in my mind
of from a business standpoint, I think we are getting
busier as gambling has gone up, and so maybe there
is some data there that kind of, you know, tracks
on a similar It's.
Speaker 5 (05:26):
Funny to me to think about like the kids behind me,
right like, because I got addicted to all the cool things,
like i'll call them cigarettes, and the kids behind me
they're addicted to gambling and porn. So like, I like, so,
I mean, when you have a gambling addiction, are there
other ones that come with it, Like if you had
a porn addiction one as well.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Yeah, so porn addiction. I'm trying to think of cases
where I you know, I think when I have cases
that involve porn addiction, the porn addiction seems to like
overwhelm everything else I have seen somewhere. So that's the
worst thing to have. I don't know if it's the
worst addiction, but like when that is the addiction, it
is all consuming. Like I feel like maybe maybe this
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is the degenerate gambler in me. I feel like a
lot of times with the gambling, it's like, uh, I'll
do this on you know, the weekends, or I'll you know,
I'll make it one or two trips to Vegas type
of thing. It's not like all consuming for the porn
addiction specifically. Yeah, I mean it seems like I don't
know how people going to get any jobs done because
it seems like they're always you know.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
And when it comes to whether you're to get divorce
or not, it's when whether it like the porn addiction,
it's like it's like cheating. So that's like you really
can't forgive that. If it's like let's say gambling or
heroin or something, you're like, oh, well, we're gonna get
you to rehab, well, you know I can forgive you
for that. Let's just get over it. I don't think
the porn addition thing is easy for you know, a
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partner to get over well.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
And I think you know, we we we tie emotional
feelings to the porn addiction, right, like when am I
not giving you that you're getting from uh eva elfie online?
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Right?
Speaker 2 (07:03):
And so there's only fans for that, but so I
think that there's some some some emotional connection there. But
you know, for gambling, you know, here's the hard part.
And I think we could all agree with this that
you know, money is getting tighter every single day and
and people work really hard for their money and to
not have a say and where that money goes. I
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think it's a big deal for people.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
But if you have a couple, right, a married couple,
and they both have famously said that our money is
all separate, we keep our separate money. And he's decided
to do the gambling, it's with his money.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
But one person makes more money. So if they fall
on hard financial times, that person is going to have
to carry the majority of the weight and and maybe
she's tired of carrying all that weight.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
There's a possibility. And just so you know, I, because
Ryan's talked about it, I went ahead and bet two
hundred dollars that the Miami Dolphins are going to make
the playoffs next year.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
I'm gonna once I get back into my app, I'm
gonna hop on that absolutely.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
So if we win, we get twenty six hundred.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Bucks and we'll have a nice part.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
What did you think?
Speaker 2 (08:14):
What did you think about the draft? I was actually
pretty happy with the draft?
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Are you are you? Are you okay with that? The
fact that they've passed on the kid from um so
for Reuben Bain specifically because he's in Tampa now, I've
been following him since he was a freshman in high school,
and so I've been following him his entire career.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
How do you follow someone in high school Instagram? Dude?
Speaker 3 (08:38):
In a city like Miami, some of these cities, even
Orlando to a certain extent, high school football is a
big to my nephew.
Speaker 5 (08:46):
Xander's playing varsity football this year for Lake Brandley, and
there's websites that track all of his stats.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Really.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Yeah, he's a three time state champion football player. And
when you look at all the kids that he played
football with, a lot of them are in the NFL
or playing college. But so, I do really like him
as as a prospect. I was kind of bummed that
they traded back with the Cowboys because I like Caleb Downs.
Speaker 5 (09:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Yeah, I liked his attitude. I thought that that would
be something we could really use on the back end.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
Are you still feeling confident with this new coaching uh,
and this new group running the team right now?
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Yeah? I think so. I love the linebacker they got
out of Texas Tech. I think they're going to run
the ball and be a hard nosed team. And I think, uh,
I think we're going to the playoffs next year, so
I'll be down for that bet.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
All right, there you go. So now I got the
betting app on on my phone. So that's the.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Dangerous part is you know, like you have to like
set boundaries.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
Rust and a commercial break. I swear to god. We
talked about it like, well, let me say I don't
have it on my phone, Yett's how easy to say.
Within three minutes, I was on the app and I
made a two hundred dollars bet like that.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
That's intentionally.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
I know it's intentional. There was no hurdle bumps.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
We'll take your money as quickly as we can other.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Apps, it takes you forever to get signed up. This
not with a gambling app. Oh man, I was right there.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Fans, you got to take a picture of your driver's license,
do you really? I mean, I think that's true. I
don't know that's all.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Right, That's what.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
I don't know how it works for people that sign up.
But if you're a content creator and you have to
pay taxes, then yes, see, I think they have because
I think they do age verification for the only fans because.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
You ought to try the one I'm on, Lonely fans, We.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Have we really have one fan. Yeah, yeah, that's a
good day. But yeah, they make it very easy and
I've done historically, I've done pretty well. Last year, I
did not do very well with gambling. With gambling I had.
I had really high hopes for the Dolphins last year
and uh, not so good. There are a lot of
(10:48):
interceptions las year. I should have bet on that. You
should have taken over on that for sure.
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Speaker 2 (11:03):
AI, We've got a big tech boss that we got
to talk about.
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you that, uh, we're gonna hear a keyword here in
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Speaker 3 (11:15):
Angel I'm now I'm on on Ryan's side. I think
that they're actively kind of suppressing our votes.
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Yeah, there's something wrong.
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Able conspiracy theory on that.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
Yeah, because every time that we've don't you know, we
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then all of a sudden while our guys start winning.
So I think they they've kind of uh suppressed us
all right off the rip.
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Welcome back. I'm Russ Jeff Hall here today. Jeff you
are you playing somewhere this?
Speaker 3 (11:51):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (11:51):
Actually I am, but playing first. Casey Howell will be
playing Rocket rev on Thursday in Occoy from six to nine,
and Saturday he'll be at Blue Rings Brewing and uh
de Berry over there, you know what is from four
to seven, and Sunday I'll be at field Good Farms
in o Ste from two to five.
Speaker 6 (12:09):
Some feel good farms. Yeah, what is that? Well, it's
it's kind of close. Oh who are you thinking? It's
not like a no, no, no, it's a winery.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
Oh, it's a winery and the guy is just killing
it over He had a big he's country boy, got
a big old bunch of land out there. He said,
I think I'm gonna grow Florida grapes and he's killing it.
But he's got great music out there. So it's a
covered thing besides rope. And but it's yeah, baby, uh
lonely fans.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
What be there Sunday? Yeah, I'll be there Sunday from
two to five. Ambernova here today, of course, Angel and
Ryan and we got our Mondy friendly Ray Trandley here. Hey, Ray,
Before we go into the Ai story, I was gonna
ask you about this because this was something that came up.
I do the The four oh seven on Fox thirty
five every Monday and Wednesday. I'll be on today with
mart Lisa Goldsmith. One of the stories they talked about
(13:00):
other day was the trend with gen zers, and the
trend is instead of getting wedding rings, they're doing the
wedding tattoo a tattoo ring because like it's cheaper, why
not just do that?
Speaker 6 (13:13):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (13:14):
And of course they asked, you know, that's my opinion
on what would you think about do instead of getting,
you know, a wedding ring, getting a tattoo, you wouldn't
even have any skin.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
I mean you have one finger. Yeah, it would be
doing black face at this point on your hand.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Exactly What would your advice be to a gens zeer?
And because you're a divorce attorney, the reason I'm asking
it is, you know, with the wedding ring tattoo, I
do kind of like.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
The idea of like, you know, the number of bands
around your fingers, kind of like you know, how you
age a tree age in relationships. Yeah, so I kind
of like that idea. I've seen it. I also see
it in the context of I'm meeting this person for
their divorce and I see they've got a tattoo on
their hands?
Speaker 1 (13:58):
What does one do? That would my question here? What
does one do if you get a divorced but you
got a ring, you know, tattoo and and and then
Ryan the reason he says he doesn't wear his, it's
because it makes him uncomfortable. So I'm curious, Ryan, would
you get a a ring tattoo around your your finger?
Speaker 2 (14:16):
I got no tattoos now, I'm definitely not getting a
tattoo on my finger. So no, because you're anti tattoo.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Oh, you're right.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
He doesn't wear his ring on. I only wear my rings.
Speaker 5 (14:28):
I only wear my ring if I'm like dressed up.
But I but again, it's a tactile thing for me.
I just sit there to mess with it the whole time.
I've lost three of them at this point, I don't
so I do you understand that I don't like it.
I'm very married. If I'm walking around with a pickle dog,
I will shout I'm a married man, so that's all
I need to do.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
It also makes it harder for you to pick up
ladies at the uh. The the wedding ring attracts though
you have a wedding.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
I feel weird if I don't have a wedding ring on.
Speaker 6 (14:56):
Yah.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Yeah, but the wedding ring. I've noticed like the wedding ring.
Speaker 5 (14:59):
If I'm in the wedding ring and saying just like
at the alehouse, like by myself, like maybe eating some
meat loaf, I will have more people.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
Talk to me. Why are you going to an alehouse
by yourself? You know that's my favorite place in the plane. Well,
come on down next time we can eat. Not talk
to lady?
Speaker 1 (15:14):
What does one normally do then if they'd got a
you know, a tattoo around their ring finger and they
get divorced.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
So I had I had a couple who both had
the tattoos. He also had her name tattooed on his chest. Yeah,
so he got the tattoo removal thing, and so they
could do the tattoo removal.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
That that one, the tattoo on the chest, that's a real,
real big commitment it would do that.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
It wasn't small either, Yeah, it was.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
I can't those pieces like kind of take up your
whole chest.
Speaker 6 (15:41):
Like.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Yeah, there was a.
Speaker 4 (15:43):
Former host on this show came in one time and
showed me he had it from one side on his
stomach all the way to the other side, and they
broke up like three months later.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Yeah, the belly tattoo is not a smart move. Yeah,
it's hard to do a cover up on something like that.
You'd have to kind of pivot and make it into
something else. You can put kiss makeup on her face.
That seems very specific, russ I say, you get like
a monster's wrestling.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Just put just put kids makeup on her. I never
I never saw a concert with her.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
That's that's one of the new characters. Uh so what
was it? What was the AI story? Yes, so here's
the AI story for those who are following or maybe
are not following. Elon Musk is suing Sam Altman. Uh
and and and it's all over what the initial idea
was behind chet GPT and open ai as a company
(16:38):
and a nonprofit charity.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Right yeah?
Speaker 2 (16:40):
So so, uh for those who don't know, Elon Musk
is a fairly wealthy guy.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Yeah, got almost a trillion dollars, right.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
And people like to ask him for money, especially in
the tech field. And so the story goes based off
of Elon Musk's testimony money that Sam Altman approached him
said Hey, I want to rate this thing that's going
to basically replace Google, and I want it to be
available to everybody. And so according to Elon Musk, this
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was supposed to be a non profit organization and it
was supposed to basically to be designed to enrich and
benefit everybody. According to open Ai and some of their bleedings,
what their impression of the understanding was is that, sure,
this money is going to go to feed our nonprofit side,
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but also we need money to fuel this machine, and
so we're also going to put in the for profit side,
as Sam Outman recruited billions of dollars in VC money,
including money from Elon Musk and so you know, people,
investors and so and so what's interesting is and this
(17:53):
is a strategy used by lots of lawyers. Uh. You know,
there's twenty six counts of all the things that Elon
Musk has said that Sam Altman did. Two days before trial,
twenty four of those disappear. And now we're really focused
on unjustin Richmond and this this breach of this nonprofit
trust issue. And so you know what makes these things
(18:16):
very difficult to litigate in articulating in the courtroom is
a lot of this stuff is not going to be
in writing, or at least I don't expect it to
be heavily and right, it's just like a billion dollars.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
So this is suit over money. It's not the impact
of AI. It's a two billionaires and they're pissed off
of one's claiming you owe me a billion.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
The other ones like, no, it's a nonprofit dude. Well,
and uh, I actually don't know what happened with Johnny Depp,
because I think John Depp did the same thing where
he said like he's going to give the money away
after the case was over. I don't know if that
actually happened or not, but according to what Elon Musk
has posted on x, he plans on donating whatever he
(18:58):
wins to So in a.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Court case like this, right if if it's hey, this
guy said this, this guy said that, but nothing is
in writing, how do you make a decision? How does
the judge answer?
Speaker 2 (19:11):
So it's going to be a jury in this case,
and and really what you're looking at is all the
other corroborating evidence that would reinforce one side story. You know,
you know, sure he'd be hard to sit on. It's
too very unlikable, you know, like who do you root for?
And the first witness for Elon Musk's side was Elon Musk,
which I don't know if it's like an ego thing
(19:32):
where it's like I have to be first.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
So he would he went on, understand he.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
Was the very first witness.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
You'd like somebody to talk about torpedoing your case, You
like somebody who's like more but yeah, sympathetic, Yeah, absolutely, So.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
You see how the jury's reacting and then you can
reframe your question.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Imagine being on the jury and you're talking and you're
trying to decide between two billionaires, I mean, the unlikable billionaires.
I mean, people automatically are not gonna like them because
they're so filthy wealthy.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
I think, well, yeah, I think that's I think that's
a real problem. Yeah, I mean I think that you know,
we talked so much in the legal space about being
presentable and being likable and not ostracizing anybody on the
judge or the jury side of things, and from the rip,
neither client is gonna be super popular, right.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
Do you think most like, let's say the one, are
the chances that because so we're familiar with these guys
because of the nature of what we do, and we're
talking about these kind of things all the time. Uh,
you know, we are told that the juries are supposed
to be made up of people of your peers. We
know that there are no other intellectuals on the jury pool, right,
So do you think for their peers.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Yeah, those people.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
Do you think for the most part that those people
like in that in that scenario, I think more people
are gonna be familiar with Elon Musk than Altman.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Yeah, Yeah, that could be and it's just so clear.
This is happening in the heart of the tech space.
This is happening in Silicon Valley. Everybody's aware of this.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Thank goodness.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
So people are going to be aware of both. I
think of them. Most people don't know enough about sam Altman.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
Got to read again. I can't stress enough people. You
gotta read that article that Ronan Pharaoh wrote. It is
an incredibly sobering moment for the guy that's supposed to
be our savior, our ai savior.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
We obviously we know Elon Musk's political you know, views
and everything, the same thing with him.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
This is okay, this is apart from political. This is
the guy is a compulsive liar. The guy does have
a Jesus complex. The guy like there's there's uh Jewish,
there is a development of of just the deceit that's
in him. He can't help but lie, and he's lied
to everybody across the board.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
I heard the gonna name it to.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
I Uh.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
I did see one of the the exhibits for this
trial is going to be some some posts on x
uh some post on X from Elon Musk calling him
scam Altman, and so what I imagine we haven't seen
it yet. I'll be interested on the cross examination how
much they try to, like you said, make Elon Musk
(22:28):
look bad on the stand because he's not a super
likable guy. And then you start reading through all these tweets.
Do you still call him tweets if it's x now
post hosts whatever they're called. Uh, his post on on
social media where he he talks asked about everybody, and
he doesn't seem like he's super friendly and super likable.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
So do you think the jury will see jury probably
already sees that.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
Well, I mean they're gonna it's gonna be in their face, right,
I mean, whether they've got monitors or they got the
big screen.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
So they they'll show them. These are the things Elon
Musk says on his platform.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
Yeah, because I think you know, if i'm if I'm
say Maltman's attorney, part of what I'm gonna say is, like,
this isn't really a dispute about you know, breach of
contractor unjustin Richmond. Really what this is is you want
to tear this guy down because you want to be
president of all things. Yes, and saw Maltman sees it differently.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
So to prove their case is basically is going to
come down to a popularity contest between the two.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
I think, I think, I think that's how it's gonna Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
You have to decide which one is the liar and
which one is telling the truth. And here's the reason
we think he's the liar. Look at all the horrible things.
He said, Well here's this guy and was in uh, man,
So it's down to the basics of popularity contests.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
So I so I ran an AI prompt through chat
GPT last night. Yeah, and said, who do you think
is gonna win? Then first it said like it can't
predict the future or whatever, yeah, and then said then
he said it couldn't give me gambling advice, and I
was like, oh hey, but I was able to figure
out a way to a back door and get the
prompt entered where he gave you. And it says that
(24:01):
Sam Altman's going to win the trial. So we'll see
if AI gets it right on this one. But speaking
of AI.
Speaker 5 (24:07):
Asked grownk if who is gonna win? And then it
showed me my own photo nude speaking.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
Of the A and uh and uh, you know the
law and everything. Now I'm in Tampa, and this story
maybe here. I just I don't know. But in Tampa
there's a big story where there's a guy that that
killed a couple of guy, a couple of people or whatever.
And he went to his CI. He went to his
AI and hey, how long if they're in a plastic
(24:31):
bag for so long? You know what's going to happen?
And how do I kill and and they're talking about
finding a way to sue AI for giving this kid
advice on how to kill somebody. Uh, that's gotta be a.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Couple of those kind of lossits across the lawsuit like like, uh,
good luck with that, I mean work, No, I don't
think so. We've seen this with Google, We've seen this
with social media, and how you're going to hold these
companies accountable for what us submit and provide. I just
don't see it being a very viable lawsuits.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
Well, I guess AI answered and said what would happen
to the human body? How it would decompose? And they
and they asked, well, how do I get rid of
the body and the police not find out? And it
gave some sort of an answer.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
So these lawsuits trust they're using the information that they
find on their on the AI, on the on the
the legend the bad person in this to cooperate their
charges against them. Now, out of that group of people,
there's only been a couple other lawsuits where they're going
after chat GPT or whatever the.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
Jets this one in Tampa that they're wanting to go
after the chat GPT for answering the questions on how
to get rid of a body.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
Yeah, and I think maybe there's some I think maybe
there could be some legal argument over whether or not
there should be safeguards and guardrails and stuff like that,
Like maybe they're negligent in not providing the.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
Check out the details of that lawsuit that Facebook is
facing in Europe. They're about to get their asses hand.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
Europe is a completely different animal though with the EU
in their privacy laws.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
I don't know the other one. And they have this
on the record, and this is why again I think
sometimes people are frustrated. So they have the Digital Services
Act that's in place there, and there's a clear language
for the protection of kids thirteen fourteen and under, and
they they've put this assembled this case specifically, and they
can show where this company has not followed what their
(26:23):
rules were for Europe, and I think you know a
lot of people here Stateside would like as semblance of
that kind of template when it comes to these social
media platforms.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Yeah, well I think that that. I mean, I think
it's we all can agree that Facebook and these these
companies that own these AI platforms and these social media platforms,
they want you to use them, and so they're incentivized
to skirt the lines of what they should and shouldn't
be doing.
Speaker 6 (26:50):
Well.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
I wonder if we ask, if we ask a chat
TIVT what they would would they would they cash out
right now? Or would they let it ride on the
magic oo? You should ask. We got to take a break.
I want to thank a friendly rate Trently for coming in.
If you need to get hold of him. It's a
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one firm for Life dot com. Thank you, right, I
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What is what is it with a piece of advice
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for the first time and your favorite part of of
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So for my secret one is to bring lots of
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So usually I'll bring like a like a twenty four
pack for the bus and then you know, a marathon
six six pack of water, so that way.
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It's a marathon not a spring. Yeah, that's a good
thing because people will they'll lose their minds. They'll get
on the bus and they're doing shots at tequila and
I'm usually the one giving them to them and then
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All day long, well because you panic because you're like, wow,
everyone's too quiet and no one one's having any fun,
and and then you're like handing out double fisting shots
before we get to play.
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Linda, He's accurate about that. I'm like, I want everyone
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Now.
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I was gonna say, I think the last time I
did the Brew bus with you guys, we had even
left the parking lot. Yeah, and everybody chat sounds about it, right,
but you know, it's always a great time for that.
So that that would be my bit of advice is
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Yeah.
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Uh.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
And then my favorite part, you know, I love the
people part of the brew Bus. You know so many
times that when I meet people and specifically listeners, it's
in my professional capacity and they're usually not having a
great time when they come to see me.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Yeah, they go to see a lawyer. Usually it's not
for good.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
They're getting sued, or they're suing somebody, they're getting divorced,
or it's usually not great fun stuff. So it's kind
of cool to see people in their natural habitat, yeah,
having fun and getting along with people. And you know,
I've was a listener for on the radio for a
long time before I ever came on the show, and
so for me, it's like a fan thing for me
(02:44):
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with other fans. So I love that part.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
So let's talk about divorce and gambling. Yeah, talk about it.
It's come up a lot this week. It's kind up
a lot for me too. So so let me question,
like you do a lot of divorces, how many years
you've been doing divorce.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
It would be fifteen years of September fifteen years.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Like, how many of those divorces do you think gambling
was brought up? You know, like it was a part
of the issue.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
I say, probably a good third. You know it's probably third. Really, Yeah,
that's a lot. It is a lot.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
You know.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
It underlines I think the most common issue that I hear,
which is inability to communicate effectively. Ah, and so I
get that. And so when people are talking about the
gambling issue, a lot of times it's we don't see
eye to eye on how we should be spending our money.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
And you know, Ray, it's funny that you bring that up,
because in this whole conversation it seems as if men
look at it one way and women seem to look
at another. Work this whole thing with Ryan, whether he
should cash out today and take the fifteen thousand dollars
and get his house fixed like his wife wants him
to do, or you know, let it ride. It only
cost him one hundred and fifty bucks before this to
(04:00):
even start. Let it ride. And if they win one
more game, he gets thirty four thousand dollars. Most dudes
are on that side let it ride, and most women
are being logical and saying, oh no, no, you need
you need to get the house fixed. If you cash
up right now, it's all of course, that makes sense.
Have you found that that's the communication problem usually is
that men look at things differently than women.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
I think that's a that's a very big component of it,
because I think we could all agree that men and
women do see the world a little bit differently.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Yeah, we're not insane.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Your words, I definitely my wife. My wife may be listening.
My wife is definitely not insane.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
Chef's single, you got nobody answered to and voluntarily yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
Ray.
Speaker 5 (04:45):
Since gambling has gone like mainstream though, I mean like
pretty much available in everybody's pocket at this point, has
the divorce rate for gambling for you gone?
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Good question?
Speaker 2 (04:56):
I don't know if I could say so. I mean,
overall over the over the country, we see divorce rates
going down, but we're also seeing marriage.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Rates going Yeah, less people getting married.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
I think people are being a little bit more selective.
But I will say there's a correlation in my mind
of from a business standpoint, I think we are getting
busier as gambling has gone up, and so maybe there
is some data there that kind of, you know, tracks
on a similar It's.
Speaker 5 (05:26):
Funny to me to think about like the kids behind me,
right like, because I got addicted to all the cool things,
like i'll call them cigarettes, and the kids behind me
they're addicted to gambling and porn. So like, I like, so,
I mean, when you have a gambling addiction, are there
other ones that come with it, Like if you had
a porn addiction one as well.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Yeah, so porn addiction. I'm trying to think of cases
where I you know, I think when I have cases
that involve porn addiction, the porn addiction seems to like
overwhelm everything else I have seen somewhere. So that's the
worst thing to have. I don't know if it's the
worst addiction, but like when that is the addiction, it
is all consuming. Like I feel like maybe maybe this
(06:09):
is the degenerate gambler in me. I feel like a
lot of times with the gambling, it's like, uh, I'll
do this on you know, the weekends, or I'll you know,
I'll make it one or two trips to Vegas type
of thing. It's not like all consuming for the porn
addiction specifically. Yeah, I mean it seems like I don't
know how people going to get any jobs done because
it seems like they're always you know.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
And when it comes to whether you're to get divorce
or not, it's when whether it like the porn addiction,
it's like it's like cheating. So that's like you really
can't forgive that. If it's like let's say gambling or
heroin or something, you're like, oh, well, we're gonna get
you to rehab, well, you know I can forgive you
for that. Let's just get over it. I don't think
the porn addition thing is easy for you know, a
(06:49):
partner to get over well.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
And I think you know, we we we tie emotional
feelings to the porn addiction, right, like when am I
not giving you that you're getting from uh eva elfie online?
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Right?
Speaker 2 (07:03):
And so there's only fans for that, but so I
think that there's some some some emotional connection there. But
you know, for gambling, you know, here's the hard part.
And I think we could all agree with this that
you know, money is getting tighter every single day and
and people work really hard for their money and to
not have a say and where that money goes. I
(07:26):
think it's a big deal for people.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
But if you have a couple, right, a married couple,
and they both have famously said that our money is
all separate, we keep our separate money. And he's decided
to do the gambling, it's with his money.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
But one person makes more money. So if they fall
on hard financial times, that person is going to have
to carry the majority of the weight and and maybe
she's tired of carrying all that weight.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
There's a possibility. And just so you know, I, because
Ryan's talked about it, I went ahead and bet two
hundred dollars that the Miami Dolphins are going to make
the playoffs next year.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
I'm gonna once I get back into my app, I'm
gonna hop on that absolutely.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
So if we win, we get twenty six hundred.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Bucks and we'll have a nice part.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
What did you think?
Speaker 2 (08:14):
What did you think about the draft? I was actually
pretty happy with the draft?
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Are you are you? Are you okay with that? The
fact that they've passed on the kid from um so
for Reuben Bain specifically because he's in Tampa now, I've
been following him since he was a freshman in high school,
and so I've been following him his entire career.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
How do you follow someone in high school Instagram? Dude?
Speaker 3 (08:38):
In a city like Miami, some of these cities, even
Orlando to a certain extent, high school football is a
big to my nephew.
Speaker 5 (08:46):
Xander's playing varsity football this year for Lake Brandley, and
there's websites that track all of his stats.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Really.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Yeah, he's a three time state champion football player. And
when you look at all the kids that he played
football with, a lot of them are in the NFL
or playing college. But so, I do really like him
as as a prospect. I was kind of bummed that
they traded back with the Cowboys because I like Caleb Downs.
Speaker 5 (09:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Yeah, I liked his attitude. I thought that that would
be something we could really use on the back end.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
Are you still feeling confident with this new coaching uh,
and this new group running the team right now?
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Yeah? I think so. I love the linebacker they got
out of Texas Tech. I think they're going to run
the ball and be a hard nosed team. And I think, uh,
I think we're going to the playoffs next year, so
I'll be down for that bet.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
All right, there you go. So now I got the
betting app on on my phone. So that's the.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Dangerous part is you know, like you have to like
set boundaries.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
Rust and a commercial break. I swear to god. We
talked about it like, well, let me say I don't
have it on my phone, Yett's how easy to say.
Within three minutes, I was on the app and I
made a two hundred dollars bet like that.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
That's intentionally.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
I know it's intentional. There was no hurdle bumps.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
We'll take your money as quickly as we can other.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Apps, it takes you forever to get signed up. This
not with a gambling app. Oh man, I was right there.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Fans, you got to take a picture of your driver's license,
do you really? I mean, I think that's true. I
don't know that's all.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Right, That's what.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
I don't know how it works for people that sign up.
But if you're a content creator and you have to
pay taxes, then yes, see, I think they have because
I think they do age verification for the only fans because.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
You ought to try the one I'm on, Lonely fans, We.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Have we really have one fan. Yeah, yeah, that's a
good day. But yeah, they make it very easy and
I've done historically, I've done pretty well. Last year, I
did not do very well with gambling. With gambling I had.
I had really high hopes for the Dolphins last year
and uh, not so good. There are a lot of
(10:48):
interceptions las year. I should have bet on that. You
should have taken over on that for sure.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
If you if you need any help with family law, divorced,
anything like that, you need to get a hold of
Friendly Ray Trendy. It's a one firm for life dot com.
That's one firm for to come. I know you have
some stuff you wanted to talk to us about with
the with.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
AI, We've got a big tech boss that we got
to talk about.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Okay, we'll talk about that when we come back. Reminding
you that, uh, we're gonna hear a keyword here in
a minute or two. That keyword could win you one
thousand dollars. We've not had a winner yet. Now that
is weird.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Angel I'm now I'm on on Ryan's side. I think
that they're actively kind of suppressing our votes.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Yeah, there's something wrong.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Able conspiracy theory on that.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
Yeah, because every time that we've don't you know, we
jump out to a strong lead, then uh you know,
then all of a sudden while our guys start winning.
So I think they they've kind of uh suppressed us
all right off the rip.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
I believe that one hundred percent because we know we
normally always at least get you one. Yeah, we haven't
had one winner yet, So listen for the keyword and
try to be that winner that gets a thousand dollars
is coming up here in a minute or two. Don't
go anywhere. You're listening to the matches of the morning.
Welcome back. I'm Russ Jeff Hall here today. Jeff you
are you playing somewhere this?
Speaker 3 (11:51):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (11:51):
Actually I am, but playing first. Casey Howell will be
playing Rocket rev on Thursday in Occoy from six to nine,
and Saturday he'll be at Blue Rings Brewing and uh
de Berry over there, you know what is from four
to seven, and Sunday I'll be at field Good Farms
in o Ste from two to five.
Speaker 6 (12:09):
Some feel good farms. Yeah, what is that? Well, it's
it's kind of close. Oh who are you thinking? It's
not like a no, no, no, it's a winery.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
Oh, it's a winery and the guy is just killing
it over He had a big he's country boy, got
a big old bunch of land out there. He said,
I think I'm gonna grow Florida grapes and he's killing it.
But he's got great music out there. So it's a
covered thing besides rope. And but it's yeah, baby, uh
lonely fans.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
What be there Sunday? Yeah, I'll be there Sunday from
two to five. Ambernova here today, of course, Angel and
Ryan and we got our Mondy friendly Ray Trandley here. Hey, Ray,
Before we go into the Ai story, I was gonna
ask you about this because this was something that came up.
I do the The four oh seven on Fox thirty
five every Monday and Wednesday. I'll be on today with
mart Lisa Goldsmith. One of the stories they talked about
(13:00):
other day was the trend with gen zers, and the
trend is instead of getting wedding rings, they're doing the
wedding tattoo a tattoo ring because like it's cheaper, why
not just do that?
Speaker 6 (13:13):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (13:14):
And of course they asked, you know, that's my opinion
on what would you think about do instead of getting,
you know, a wedding ring, getting a tattoo, you wouldn't
even have any skin.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
I mean you have one finger. Yeah, it would be
doing black face at this point on your hand.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Exactly What would your advice be to a gens zeer?
And because you're a divorce attorney, the reason I'm asking
it is, you know, with the wedding ring tattoo, I
do kind of like.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
The idea of like, you know, the number of bands
around your fingers, kind of like you know, how you
age a tree age in relationships. Yeah, so I kind
of like that idea. I've seen it. I also see
it in the context of I'm meeting this person for
their divorce and I see they've got a tattoo on
their hands?
Speaker 1 (13:58):
What does one do? That would my question here? What
does one do if you get a divorced but you
got a ring, you know, tattoo and and and then
Ryan the reason he says he doesn't wear his, it's
because it makes him uncomfortable. So I'm curious, Ryan, would
you get a a ring tattoo around your your finger?
Speaker 2 (14:16):
I got no tattoos now, I'm definitely not getting a
tattoo on my finger. So no, because you're anti tattoo.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Oh, you're right.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
He doesn't wear his ring on. I only wear my rings.
Speaker 5 (14:28):
I only wear my ring if I'm like dressed up.
But I but again, it's a tactile thing for me.
I just sit there to mess with it the whole time.
I've lost three of them at this point, I don't
so I do you understand that I don't like it.
I'm very married. If I'm walking around with a pickle dog,
I will shout I'm a married man, so that's all
I need to do.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
It also makes it harder for you to pick up
ladies at the uh. The the wedding ring attracts though
you have a wedding.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
I feel weird if I don't have a wedding ring on.
Speaker 6 (14:56):
Yah.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Yeah, but the wedding ring. I've noticed like the wedding ring.
Speaker 5 (14:59):
If I'm in the wedding ring and saying just like
at the alehouse, like by myself, like maybe eating some
meat loaf, I will have more people.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
Talk to me. Why are you going to an alehouse
by yourself? You know that's my favorite place in the plane. Well,
come on down next time we can eat. Not talk
to lady?
Speaker 1 (15:14):
What does one normally do then if they'd got a
you know, a tattoo around their ring finger and they
get divorced.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
So I had I had a couple who both had
the tattoos. He also had her name tattooed on his chest. Yeah,
so he got the tattoo removal thing, and so they
could do the tattoo removal.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
That that one, the tattoo on the chest, that's a real,
real big commitment it would do that.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
It wasn't small either, Yeah, it was.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
I can't those pieces like kind of take up your
whole chest.
Speaker 6 (15:41):
Like.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Yeah, there was a.
Speaker 4 (15:43):
Former host on this show came in one time and
showed me he had it from one side on his
stomach all the way to the other side, and they
broke up like three months later.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Yeah, the belly tattoo is not a smart move. Yeah,
it's hard to do a cover up on something like that.
You'd have to kind of pivot and make it into
something else. You can put kiss makeup on her face.
That seems very specific, russ I say, you get like
a monster's wrestling.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Just put just put kids makeup on her. I never
I never saw a concert with her.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
That's that's one of the new characters. Uh so what
was it? What was the AI story? Yes, so here's
the AI story for those who are following or maybe
are not following. Elon Musk is suing Sam Altman. Uh
and and and it's all over what the initial idea
was behind chet GPT and open ai as a company
(16:38):
and a nonprofit charity.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Right yeah?
Speaker 2 (16:40):
So so, uh for those who don't know, Elon Musk
is a fairly wealthy guy.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Yeah, got almost a trillion dollars, right.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
And people like to ask him for money, especially in
the tech field. And so the story goes based off
of Elon Musk's testimony money that Sam Altman approached him
said Hey, I want to rate this thing that's going
to basically replace Google, and I want it to be
available to everybody. And so according to Elon Musk, this
(17:08):
was supposed to be a non profit organization and it
was supposed to basically to be designed to enrich and
benefit everybody. According to open Ai and some of their bleedings,
what their impression of the understanding was is that, sure,
this money is going to go to feed our nonprofit side,
(17:29):
but also we need money to fuel this machine, and
so we're also going to put in the for profit side,
as Sam Outman recruited billions of dollars in VC money,
including money from Elon Musk and so you know, people,
investors and so and so what's interesting is and this
(17:53):
is a strategy used by lots of lawyers. Uh. You know,
there's twenty six counts of all the things that Elon
Musk has said that Sam Altman did. Two days before trial,
twenty four of those disappear. And now we're really focused
on unjustin Richmond and this this breach of this nonprofit
trust issue. And so you know what makes these things
(18:16):
very difficult to litigate in articulating in the courtroom is
a lot of this stuff is not going to be
in writing, or at least I don't expect it to
be heavily and right, it's just like a billion dollars.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
So this is suit over money. It's not the impact
of AI. It's a two billionaires and they're pissed off
of one's claiming you owe me a billion.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
The other ones like, no, it's a nonprofit dude. Well,
and uh, I actually don't know what happened with Johnny Depp,
because I think John Depp did the same thing where
he said like he's going to give the money away
after the case was over. I don't know if that
actually happened or not, but according to what Elon Musk
has posted on x, he plans on donating whatever he
(18:58):
wins to So in a.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Court case like this, right if if it's hey, this
guy said this, this guy said that, but nothing is
in writing, how do you make a decision? How does
the judge answer?
Speaker 2 (19:11):
So it's going to be a jury in this case,
and and really what you're looking at is all the
other corroborating evidence that would reinforce one side story. You know,
you know, sure he'd be hard to sit on. It's
too very unlikable, you know, like who do you root for?
And the first witness for Elon Musk's side was Elon Musk,
which I don't know if it's like an ego thing
(19:32):
where it's like I have to be first.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
So he would he went on, understand he.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
Was the very first witness.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
You'd like somebody to talk about torpedoing your case, You
like somebody who's like more but yeah, sympathetic, Yeah, absolutely, So.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
You see how the jury's reacting and then you can
reframe your question.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Imagine being on the jury and you're talking and you're
trying to decide between two billionaires, I mean, the unlikable billionaires.
I mean, people automatically are not gonna like them because
they're so filthy wealthy.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
I think, well, yeah, I think that's I think that's
a real problem. Yeah, I mean I think that you know,
we talked so much in the legal space about being
presentable and being likable and not ostracizing anybody on the
judge or the jury side of things, and from the rip,
neither client is gonna be super popular, right.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
Do you think most like, let's say the one, are
the chances that because so we're familiar with these guys
because of the nature of what we do, and we're
talking about these kind of things all the time. Uh,
you know, we are told that the juries are supposed
to be made up of people of your peers. We
know that there are no other intellectuals on the jury pool, right,
So do you think for their peers.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Yeah, those people.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
Do you think for the most part that those people
like in that in that scenario, I think more people
are gonna be familiar with Elon Musk than Altman.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Yeah, Yeah, that could be and it's just so clear.
This is happening in the heart of the tech space.
This is happening in Silicon Valley. Everybody's aware of this.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Thank goodness.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
So people are going to be aware of both. I
think of them. Most people don't know enough about sam Altman.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
Got to read again. I can't stress enough people. You
gotta read that article that Ronan Pharaoh wrote. It is
an incredibly sobering moment for the guy that's supposed to
be our savior, our ai savior.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
We obviously we know Elon Musk's political you know, views
and everything, the same thing with him.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
This is okay, this is apart from political. This is
the guy is a compulsive liar. The guy does have
a Jesus complex. The guy like there's there's uh Jewish,
there is a development of of just the deceit that's
in him. He can't help but lie, and he's lied
to everybody across the board.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
I heard the gonna name it to.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
I Uh.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
I did see one of the the exhibits for this
trial is going to be some some posts on x
uh some post on X from Elon Musk calling him
scam Altman, and so what I imagine we haven't seen
it yet. I'll be interested on the cross examination how
much they try to, like you said, make Elon Musk
(22:28):
look bad on the stand because he's not a super
likable guy. And then you start reading through all these tweets.
Do you still call him tweets if it's x now
post hosts whatever they're called. Uh, his post on on
social media where he he talks asked about everybody, and
he doesn't seem like he's super friendly and super likable.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
So do you think the jury will see jury probably
already sees that.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
Well, I mean they're gonna it's gonna be in their face, right,
I mean, whether they've got monitors or they got the
big screen.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
So they they'll show them. These are the things Elon
Musk says on his platform.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
Yeah, because I think you know, if i'm if I'm
say Maltman's attorney, part of what I'm gonna say is, like,
this isn't really a dispute about you know, breach of
contractor unjustin Richmond. Really what this is is you want
to tear this guy down because you want to be
president of all things. Yes, and saw Maltman sees it differently.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
So to prove their case is basically is going to
come down to a popularity contest between the two.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
I think, I think, I think that's how it's gonna Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
You have to decide which one is the liar and
which one is telling the truth. And here's the reason
we think he's the liar. Look at all the horrible things.
He said, Well here's this guy and was in uh, man,
So it's down to the basics of popularity contests.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
So I so I ran an AI prompt through chat
GPT last night. Yeah, and said, who do you think
is gonna win? Then first it said like it can't
predict the future or whatever, yeah, and then said then
he said it couldn't give me gambling advice, and I
was like, oh hey, but I was able to figure
out a way to a back door and get the
prompt entered where he gave you. And it says that
(24:01):
Sam Altman's going to win the trial. So we'll see
if AI gets it right on this one. But speaking
of AI.
Speaker 5 (24:07):
Asked grownk if who is gonna win? And then it
showed me my own photo nude speaking.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
Of the A and uh and uh, you know the
law and everything. Now I'm in Tampa, and this story
maybe here. I just I don't know. But in Tampa
there's a big story where there's a guy that that
killed a couple of guy, a couple of people or whatever.
And he went to his CI. He went to his
AI and hey, how long if they're in a plastic
(24:31):
bag for so long? You know what's going to happen?
And how do I kill and and they're talking about
finding a way to sue AI for giving this kid
advice on how to kill somebody. Uh, that's gotta be a.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Couple of those kind of lossits across the lawsuit like like, uh,
good luck with that, I mean work, No, I don't
think so. We've seen this with Google, We've seen this
with social media, and how you're going to hold these
companies accountable for what us submit and provide. I just
don't see it being a very viable lawsuits.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
Well, I guess AI answered and said what would happen
to the human body? How it would decompose? And they
and they asked, well, how do I get rid of
the body and the police not find out? And it
gave some sort of an answer.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
So these lawsuits trust they're using the information that they
find on their on the AI, on the on the
the legend the bad person in this to cooperate their
charges against them. Now, out of that group of people,
there's only been a couple other lawsuits where they're going
after chat GPT or whatever the.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
Jets this one in Tampa that they're wanting to go
after the chat GPT for answering the questions on how
to get rid of a body.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
Yeah, and I think maybe there's some I think maybe
there could be some legal argument over whether or not
there should be safeguards and guardrails and stuff like that,
Like maybe they're negligent in not providing the.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
Check out the details of that lawsuit that Facebook is
facing in Europe. They're about to get their asses hand.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
Europe is a completely different animal though with the EU
in their privacy laws.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
I don't know the other one. And they have this
on the record, and this is why again I think
sometimes people are frustrated. So they have the Digital Services
Act that's in place there, and there's a clear language
for the protection of kids thirteen fourteen and under, and
they they've put this assembled this case specifically, and they
can show where this company has not followed what their
(26:23):
rules were for Europe, and I think you know a
lot of people here Stateside would like as semblance of
that kind of template when it comes to these social
media platforms.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Yeah, well I think that that. I mean, I think
it's we all can agree that Facebook and these these
companies that own these AI platforms and these social media platforms,
they want you to use them, and so they're incentivized
to skirt the lines of what they should and shouldn't
be doing.
Speaker 6 (26:50):
Well.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
I wonder if we ask, if we ask a chat
TIVT what they would would they would they cash out
right now? Or would they let it ride on the
magic oo? You should ask. We got to take a break.
I want to thank a friendly rate Trently for coming in.
If you need to get hold of him. It's a
t K Law, one firm for Life dot com. That's
one firm for Life dot com. Thank you, right, I
(27:11):
appreciate you. Guys. All right, don't go anywhere. You're listening
to the manch of the morning.
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