May 4, 2026 • 16 mins
On the Jim Colbert Show Attorney "Friendly" Ray Traendly of TK Law discusses the class action lawsuit against SpaceX alleging damages to homes due to sonic booms from the rocket launches and the Sony settlement of a lawsuit over digital game sales.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back. I'm Jindre's deb Hell Jack Yo and Ross
as well. Believe in yourself every single money Around this time,
this gentleman joins us to talk about things happening in
the legal world. You can always find him right there
in his office and out Tom you guys give it
up a good loud mister rag TK Law one firm
for life at dot com offices right there in Longwood
(00:20):
and in the land. What's up, buddy, Just living the dream,
living your dream? Huh.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
I'm now rethinking all my decisions though, I think we
should try to do I know Ross likes to do
stuff for fringe festival. Maybe we do a cabaret style
like legal Oh my God segment and.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
Every time you lose an argument, you gonna take something off.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
I think i'd be a good way to do it.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
You don't lose a lot of arguments though, I don't
lose a lot.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Ross.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
You might be going out, uh, wearing a lot less clothing.
I'm sorry, it's not my first road. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
I do weird stuff on Wednesday midnight. You really nice?
That's good?
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Is a Wednesday weird night? Is that what it is?
Speaker 4 (00:58):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (00:58):
I just mainly do it for a Ray drops by
on Mondays to talk about legal things happening out there
you may have heard of or maybe not have heard of,
and some of these decisions actually could affect your life.
So we like to talk about things like that, and
of course if you have a situation where you need
a good attorney. My family has used Ray over and
over and over for the last ten years and he's
come through for us like a billion ways. No way
to explain, you know. We talk about this with home
(01:20):
improvement stuff. How important it is to have somebody that
knows what they're doing that you can call in any moment.
I would say that equally or maybe even more so
when it comes to your legal matters in your life.
It's great and very comforting to know that I can
give you a call and get some great advice for
things that need to happen in my life that I
don't know how to deal with. So you've been a
great asset to the family and we appreciate that very much.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
I appreciate you saying that.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Yeah, you got it, and it's true one hundred percent.
I mean, you know, I'm in your office a bunch.
We've been on the phone about stupid stuff and about
serious stuff. A cool thing is you look at all
all things the same, whether it's dumb or whether it's
super serious. You get the same amount of attention from
the firm. And I love that. You know.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
The problem is there's not a lot of good information
out there. There's a lot of people that are afraid
of asking those questions enough. And so you know, really,
what I've tried to do since I've been on the
air and just in general in my career is just
present an opportunity for people.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
To talk to somebody and have a voice and get
a voice.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Absolutely, Man, I gotta tell you just you don't feel
you know, you feel so unempowered or disempowered or disenfranchised
when you're out there on your own and you don't
have a voice. You don't know what to say, you
don't know who to say it to. And the very
thing is like a simple call and that gets that
sums that up, which is always very nice.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Yeah. Best.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
You know, we were texting this morning and talking about
a case that's out in Houston and then I was like, hey, man,
that's wild because the same kind of thing is happening
in Orlando. What did you see today.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Yeah, so or so Starlink in Texas has a lawsuit
filed against it.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
It's it's brand new.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
I wasn't able to pull a lawsuit for today, but
brand new as of this morning. Where the homeowners in
and around the port area where the launch facility is
at our filing lawsuits alleging the sonic boom are causing
damages to their homes.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Also the launches and the rumbling of the ground, also
the rumbling.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
Of the ground.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Now when I so, I was recently in this part
of southeast Texas, and so there are communities. I mean
it almost it almost looks like it's like a SpaceX.
You know, neighborhood everybody has a cyber truck or one
of the Tesla Model X is everybody. And then you know,
(03:29):
but there's these all these neighborhoods that lead down to
where the launch facility is, and they're complaining about lots
of issues with their properties and and they're filing right now.
They haven't certified as a class action. But when you
see multiple lawsuits like this, the terminology is called numerosity, right,
(03:50):
you see a bunch of plaintfs with similar damages from
the similar cause it is usually the sign of an
early class action lawsuit. Lawyers to start posting ads and saying, hey,
you two might be affected by this, come give us
a call.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
And I've seen that before. We've seen those ads before.
And it's so funny that you mentioned that, because in
February of this year, we actually read a story that
the Cape Canaveral and the surrounding areas are dealing with
the exact same thing. The unique part of this Cape
Canaveral story that differs from the Houston story is is
that at Cape Canaveral, it's city leaders over there wondering
if they can create like a slush fund with state
(04:23):
and federal grants that in case some of these launches.
We have more coming out of Cape Canaval than anywhere.
I mean sometimes to a day, and they're worried about
the same thing. Matter of fact, there are a couple
of people already that women that have already come out
and said that, look, man, you know this is causing
my house to shake, It's causing me to knee repairs,
foundation issues. When you start cracking slabs, you start having
(04:44):
water issues. Maybe these are tens of thousands of dollars
these repairs and they don't feel that they should have
to pay for that because they moved in long before
the launch pad was there, and they feel they should
not have to deal with this. And it's weird that
the city is creating that. And the one thing I
wanted to ask you about this ring is you mentioned
the class action thing. We hear that all the time,
(05:05):
like almost every day there's a suit about a class
matter of fact, there's one today or the other day.
I told Jack about It's like if you have a
city card, you know, they just settled a class action
lawsuit they have to distributed like you know, twenty four
million dollars or something, and you hear about that all
the time. How does that begin? Like, how do people
who have a collective problem like that, like a neighborhood,
how would they get together and say, you know what,
(05:25):
we need to get an attorney on this is everybody
in on it type thing? Is that what happens like
a petition?
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Honestly, a lot of times it's the lawyers, and you know,
say all kinds of good things and bad things about lawyers.
But you know, I've actually been when I was very
young in my career, I had the opportunity to be
at the very beginning of a class action lawsuit, and
so we had a plan of coming in and I
don't really want we had a confidential settlement for the
class and so I don't want to talk too much
about this specific details, but conceptually speaking, the person came
(05:53):
to me. Nobody thought it was a lawsuit. She had
talked to ten lawyers in town, all the big names,
all the big billboards, and I said, this is interesting
to me. I think that there's something here. So we
sat down, we probably twelve hours of going through the story,
the backs from everybody, absolutely just making sure that the
story made sense. And so we ended up filing our
(06:16):
own individual lawsuit with those facts, and in doing that,
we had another person reach out to us and said
we had a very similar experience with a very similar
procedure and that they wanted to know if I could
represent them. And you know, as we got involved and
more and more people came to us, we started to see, Okay,
(06:40):
there's some very common themes that are going on. Similar
things are being said, some similar things are being done,
similar damages and results.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Experiences were similar enough where you could kind of wrap
it up under one umbrella.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
That's right, And so we ended up running an advertising
campaign and say you may have been impacted and I
don't know. So once it went to class action, kind
of left my hands. I was a baby lawyer. They
were not gonna let me run with this thing. But
I think we had up to like one hundred and
fourteen plaintiffs that joined our class action lawsuit.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
And uh, is.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
There a number that determines that word being used or
does that is that just a term do say where
a bunch of people have the same issue. Is is
it ten? Is it fifteen? Is it four? Is it
one hundred?
Speaker 2 (07:23):
I think probably fifty to seventy five is pretty calm.
So when you start paying attention, it's probably pretty common
because part of it, too is judicial economy. Right to
have fifty trials of the exact same trial with the
exact same issues, that becomes a drain on the legal system.
You have one trial, you need one plaintiff to be
kind of the face person of the lawsuit.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
You know, in Roe v. Wade we had that right.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Aaron Brock story against PG and same type thing. That's right.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
You just need one person to kind of be the
face of the lawsuit and then all the other plainiffs
sign off and say that we're you know, we agree
that we're going to follow whatever. The outcome is usually
an opt out period, so people can say, oh, I
want to do my own lawsuit if I want to, But.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
Does the judge have any say in that? Or is
that something where you have to go to the judge
and say, hey, judge, look, we have one hundred and
fourteen cases. They're similar enough that we think this is
a class action. Do you have to get permission from
the court.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Yeah, that's a sore subject for me on this because
that's when I got pushed out. So you actually do
have to go in front of the judge and get
certified as a class action?
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Is that an argument as if you're pitching a case
as well, Like you really have to commence this guy
to take these cases because of the of the power
of the fact that one decision is gonna affect so
many people.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
That's right, it's exactly because for the lawyer it becomes
sometimes a windfall for the lawyer. Now, I didn't do
this case all by myself. We brought it into lawyer
and law firm to handle the case with us who
had some experience doing class actions. But yeah, you have
to really pitch it to them that this is something
that is not only good for the judiciary and judicial economy,
(08:57):
but also for the class And so it becomes, like
you said, kind of like a pitch, so to speak. Now,
a lot of times you can sell it to the
judge is saying, hey, judge, you could hear this case
fifty times over the course of fifty weeks or one
time of the course of one week, and usually that's enough.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
But yeah, because the dockets in Florida already slammed as
it is, right, I mean, every single circuit court in
the Florida is a month behind or if not more.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
But what makes this interesting, you know, specifically with respect
to the space launches, is the damages might be a
little bit different. You know, it might be you know,
cracked foundations. For some people, it might be one busted
windows or a busted window. And so when your damages
start to kind of spread out and like spiderweb a
(09:45):
little bit out, sometimes it becomes harder for a judge
because it might be like there might be a different
cause and effect.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
But is there a is there a case manager that
divvy's that out, Like does the judge or the law
firm say, we're assigning this particular associate to be the
case manager so that when the when the when the
decision comes down and the judge says, yes, these people
are liable for that, I'm going to award ten million
dollars for everybody was affected. You will have a case
(10:12):
manager within the firm that will divvy that money out
case by case as each person pitches their need.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
So I change it a little bit. Instead of case manager,
you might have a subclass, right, you might have a
subclass within the big class of like these are all
people whose windows got cracked, and these are all the
people who'se you know, foundation got super interesting.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
But over in the Cape Canaveral are looking at it different.
It's not like a lawsuit. It's like the city is
assuming the responsibility of that, right. I mean, it's kind
of wild that I've never heard of anything like this
is a private companies doing business on NASA federal property
and possibly causing damage to homes around there. Like where
do you even start with that? Like, I mean, people
are Mary and Island are probably like glued over Cape
(10:50):
Canaveral glued to the radio right now, going yeah, how
is that going to happen?
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Well, and it may not completely eliminate the possibility of
a lawsuit, right, gotcha. You know a little bit of
a difference is you know, when we had NASA, NASA
was the only person shooting off rockets. It was one
rocket every I don't know what. Yeah, And it's the
(11:14):
cycle which they're shooting these things off, which I think
has really changed the complexion of the damages that people
are sustaining and so you know.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
And really we have yet to see the environment environmental
impact of this either with all of the rocket the
fuels and the chemicals being used that as they're burning
will eventually settle back down into the waterways and onto
the residents and the flora of the area. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
and then to a wildlife refuge. Yeah, you're right.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
I've been at that wildlife refuge. It's got a lot
of animals.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Yeah, that eagles nests that you get to see all
the times, the size of a sofa.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Man, those eagles are awesome.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Yeah. But yeah, well that's interesting.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
I do think it'll be interesting because that's a little
bit more of like it's more like an impact issue, right, like,
you know, the city impacted by the uh the launches
as opposed to individual houses.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Yeah so, and again that story was in February. I mean,
we're gonna eventually hear more about that, as as the
city kind of does that. And there was another thing
you said this morning. I did want to talk about
because it's in the gaming world, because you know anything
about the Sony settlement, guys, for gamers.
Speaker 5 (12:19):
I know something that a huge change just happened. And
I'm quoting the internet here and I glossed by it,
but I'm pretty sure it has something to do with
the digital sale of video games and how they basically
redefine the word by Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
So I was thinking about Ross when I saw this story. Actually, sorry, Jack,
but you know, I think when I think of video games,
that's fine.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
I'm good for that.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
But so conceptually you're spot on Ross. So the idea
is there's usually two ways that you can buy games,
and now I think more often than not, it's the
digital way, as opposed to like a buying a CD.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Or downloading instead of walking into a store.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Right, and so, what the lawsuit was about was basically
an anti trust type lawsuit. Basically PlayStation and Sony I
created a monopoly over how you could buy these digital downloads.
So you know, for your phone or whatever, you want
to download Candy Crush. I don't know if it's a
still game anymore, but you have like options on where
(13:21):
you can download it from. And I don't know if
it's paid for it, but whatever. When you're buying a
Sony PlayStation game for a digital download, you had to
go through the Sony PlayStation Store and I don't know
exactly what the store is called, but their PlayStations think
it's store PS store. And so the problem was is
nobody else had access to be able to sell that.
So you couldn't go to game stop and buy these
(13:43):
digital downloads. You couldn't go to Amazon buy these digital downloads.
It's very similar. It's very similar. And that's actually where
my mind when I first read it was, you know,
when you've got a license and you can grant the
limited license, but you know the problem is is these
games are almost solely run out of these these platforms
and these applications. And so the court came down and
(14:07):
there ended up being a fairly large settlement where as
a as an anti trust violation that people who have
been using the Sony store, you know, because there's not
an open market for these things. The prices stay are
officially high, and people are gonna be entitled to money back.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Wow, like for all of their purchases, a portion of
their purchases.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
I think, Yeah, there were digital purchases, so yeah, I'm
sure you had to have receipts over a period of time.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
And then other news today like game Stop didn't game
Stop just make a pitch for eBay for fifty five
billion dollars.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
I did see something about game Stop today, but I
didn't see exactly what the store was.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
I thought that was a mean coin just what even
like a like a year ago. And now they're making
a pitch to buy the biggest online retailer, not the
biggest online retail biggest online auction system out there. Yeah
that's wild, dude.
Speaker 5 (14:51):
Well I don't even understand how that can happen. I
don't understand the stock market.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Yeah, well, somebody invested a lot of money and game Stop,
I'm assuming, and now game Stop wants to go buy
something else.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Yeah, they want to buy eBay and actually turn all
that into a I read the story today they want
to kind of transform eBay into a different kind of
retailer to kind of go after Amazon because they already
have the database for it. Right, that's the thing. Because
Walmart wanted to do this years ago and they were
they were two years too late, and I know internally
it eats them alive.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
The values in the data. Yeah, you guys have talked
about it for years that if it's something is free,
you are you are the product, you know. And so
that's the craziest headline for all the game.
Speaker 5 (15:28):
It says game Stop offers fifty six billion to buy eBay,
and every gamer is like, game Stop ain't got that.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
Well, you were just about to close six months ago.
Speaker 5 (15:39):
That's why we joke bought their stock.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
Exactly. What is happening?
Speaker 1 (15:44):
My spirit airlines? Somebody reads it goes we were fun
and we were just having the fun.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
All right.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
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Welcome back. I'm Jindre's deb Hell Jack Yo and Ross
as well. Believe in yourself every single money Around this time,
this gentleman joins us to talk about things happening in
the legal world. You can always find him right there
in his office and out Tom you guys give it
up a good loud mister rag TK Law one firm
for life at dot com offices right there in Longwood
(00:20):
and in the land. What's up, buddy, Just living the dream,
living your dream? Huh.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
I'm now rethinking all my decisions though, I think we
should try to do I know Ross likes to do
stuff for fringe festival. Maybe we do a cabaret style
like legal Oh my God segment and.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
Every time you lose an argument, you gonna take something off.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
I think i'd be a good way to do it.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
You don't lose a lot of arguments though, I don't
lose a lot.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Ross.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
You might be going out, uh, wearing a lot less clothing.
I'm sorry, it's not my first road. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
I do weird stuff on Wednesday midnight. You really nice?
That's good?
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Is a Wednesday weird night? Is that what it is?
Speaker 4 (00:58):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (00:58):
I just mainly do it for a Ray drops by
on Mondays to talk about legal things happening out there
you may have heard of or maybe not have heard of,
and some of these decisions actually could affect your life.
So we like to talk about things like that, and
of course if you have a situation where you need
a good attorney. My family has used Ray over and
over and over for the last ten years and he's
come through for us like a billion ways. No way
to explain, you know. We talk about this with home
(01:20):
improvement stuff. How important it is to have somebody that
knows what they're doing that you can call in any moment.
I would say that equally or maybe even more so
when it comes to your legal matters in your life.
It's great and very comforting to know that I can
give you a call and get some great advice for
things that need to happen in my life that I
don't know how to deal with. So you've been a
great asset to the family and we appreciate that very much.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
I appreciate you saying that.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Yeah, you got it, and it's true one hundred percent.
I mean, you know, I'm in your office a bunch.
We've been on the phone about stupid stuff and about
serious stuff. A cool thing is you look at all
all things the same, whether it's dumb or whether it's
super serious. You get the same amount of attention from
the firm. And I love that. You know.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
The problem is there's not a lot of good information
out there. There's a lot of people that are afraid
of asking those questions enough. And so you know, really,
what I've tried to do since I've been on the
air and just in general in my career is just
present an opportunity for people.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
To talk to somebody and have a voice and get
a voice.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Absolutely, Man, I gotta tell you just you don't feel
you know, you feel so unempowered or disempowered or disenfranchised
when you're out there on your own and you don't
have a voice. You don't know what to say, you
don't know who to say it to. And the very
thing is like a simple call and that gets that
sums that up, which is always very nice.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Yeah. Best.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
You know, we were texting this morning and talking about
a case that's out in Houston and then I was like, hey, man,
that's wild because the same kind of thing is happening
in Orlando. What did you see today.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Yeah, so or so Starlink in Texas has a lawsuit
filed against it.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
It's it's brand new.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
I wasn't able to pull a lawsuit for today, but
brand new as of this morning. Where the homeowners in
and around the port area where the launch facility is
at our filing lawsuits alleging the sonic boom are causing
damages to their homes.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Also the launches and the rumbling of the ground, also
the rumbling.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
Of the ground.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Now when I so, I was recently in this part
of southeast Texas, and so there are communities. I mean
it almost it almost looks like it's like a SpaceX.
You know, neighborhood everybody has a cyber truck or one
of the Tesla Model X is everybody. And then you know,
(03:29):
but there's these all these neighborhoods that lead down to
where the launch facility is, and they're complaining about lots
of issues with their properties and and they're filing right now.
They haven't certified as a class action. But when you
see multiple lawsuits like this, the terminology is called numerosity, right,
(03:50):
you see a bunch of plaintfs with similar damages from
the similar cause it is usually the sign of an
early class action lawsuit. Lawyers to start posting ads and saying, hey,
you two might be affected by this, come give us
a call.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
And I've seen that before. We've seen those ads before.
And it's so funny that you mentioned that, because in
February of this year, we actually read a story that
the Cape Canaveral and the surrounding areas are dealing with
the exact same thing. The unique part of this Cape
Canaveral story that differs from the Houston story is is
that at Cape Canaveral, it's city leaders over there wondering
if they can create like a slush fund with state
(04:23):
and federal grants that in case some of these launches.
We have more coming out of Cape Canaval than anywhere.
I mean sometimes to a day, and they're worried about
the same thing. Matter of fact, there are a couple
of people already that women that have already come out
and said that, look, man, you know this is causing
my house to shake, It's causing me to knee repairs,
foundation issues. When you start cracking slabs, you start having
(04:44):
water issues. Maybe these are tens of thousands of dollars
these repairs and they don't feel that they should have
to pay for that because they moved in long before
the launch pad was there, and they feel they should
not have to deal with this. And it's weird that
the city is creating that. And the one thing I
wanted to ask you about this ring is you mentioned
the class action thing. We hear that all the time,
(05:05):
like almost every day there's a suit about a class
matter of fact, there's one today or the other day.
I told Jack about It's like if you have a
city card, you know, they just settled a class action
lawsuit they have to distributed like you know, twenty four
million dollars or something, and you hear about that all
the time. How does that begin? Like, how do people
who have a collective problem like that, like a neighborhood,
how would they get together and say, you know what,
(05:25):
we need to get an attorney on this is everybody
in on it type thing? Is that what happens like
a petition?
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Honestly, a lot of times it's the lawyers, and you know,
say all kinds of good things and bad things about lawyers.
But you know, I've actually been when I was very
young in my career, I had the opportunity to be
at the very beginning of a class action lawsuit, and
so we had a plan of coming in and I
don't really want we had a confidential settlement for the
class and so I don't want to talk too much
about this specific details, but conceptually speaking, the person came
(05:53):
to me. Nobody thought it was a lawsuit. She had
talked to ten lawyers in town, all the big names,
all the big billboards, and I said, this is interesting
to me. I think that there's something here. So we
sat down, we probably twelve hours of going through the story,
the backs from everybody, absolutely just making sure that the
story made sense. And so we ended up filing our
(06:16):
own individual lawsuit with those facts, and in doing that,
we had another person reach out to us and said
we had a very similar experience with a very similar
procedure and that they wanted to know if I could
represent them. And you know, as we got involved and
more and more people came to us, we started to see, Okay,
(06:40):
there's some very common themes that are going on. Similar
things are being said, some similar things are being done,
similar damages and results.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Experiences were similar enough where you could kind of wrap
it up under one umbrella.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
That's right, And so we ended up running an advertising
campaign and say you may have been impacted and I
don't know. So once it went to class action, kind
of left my hands. I was a baby lawyer. They
were not gonna let me run with this thing. But
I think we had up to like one hundred and
fourteen plaintiffs that joined our class action lawsuit.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
And uh, is.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
There a number that determines that word being used or
does that is that just a term do say where
a bunch of people have the same issue. Is is
it ten? Is it fifteen? Is it four? Is it
one hundred?
Speaker 2 (07:23):
I think probably fifty to seventy five is pretty calm.
So when you start paying attention, it's probably pretty common
because part of it, too is judicial economy. Right to
have fifty trials of the exact same trial with the
exact same issues, that becomes a drain on the legal system.
You have one trial, you need one plaintiff to be
kind of the face person of the lawsuit.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
You know, in Roe v. Wade we had that right.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Aaron Brock story against PG and same type thing. That's right.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
You just need one person to kind of be the
face of the lawsuit and then all the other plainiffs
sign off and say that we're you know, we agree
that we're going to follow whatever. The outcome is usually
an opt out period, so people can say, oh, I
want to do my own lawsuit if I want to, But.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
Does the judge have any say in that? Or is
that something where you have to go to the judge
and say, hey, judge, look, we have one hundred and
fourteen cases. They're similar enough that we think this is
a class action. Do you have to get permission from
the court.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Yeah, that's a sore subject for me on this because
that's when I got pushed out. So you actually do
have to go in front of the judge and get
certified as a class action?
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Is that an argument as if you're pitching a case
as well, Like you really have to commence this guy
to take these cases because of the of the power
of the fact that one decision is gonna affect so
many people.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
That's right, it's exactly because for the lawyer it becomes
sometimes a windfall for the lawyer. Now, I didn't do
this case all by myself. We brought it into lawyer
and law firm to handle the case with us who
had some experience doing class actions. But yeah, you have
to really pitch it to them that this is something
that is not only good for the judiciary and judicial economy,
(08:57):
but also for the class And so it becomes, like
you said, kind of like a pitch, so to speak. Now,
a lot of times you can sell it to the
judge is saying, hey, judge, you could hear this case
fifty times over the course of fifty weeks or one
time of the course of one week, and usually that's enough.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
But yeah, because the dockets in Florida already slammed as
it is, right, I mean, every single circuit court in
the Florida is a month behind or if not more.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
But what makes this interesting, you know, specifically with respect
to the space launches, is the damages might be a
little bit different. You know, it might be you know,
cracked foundations. For some people, it might be one busted
windows or a busted window. And so when your damages
start to kind of spread out and like spiderweb a
(09:45):
little bit out, sometimes it becomes harder for a judge
because it might be like there might be a different
cause and effect.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
But is there a is there a case manager that
divvy's that out, Like does the judge or the law
firm say, we're assigning this particular associate to be the
case manager so that when the when the when the
decision comes down and the judge says, yes, these people
are liable for that, I'm going to award ten million
dollars for everybody was affected. You will have a case
(10:12):
manager within the firm that will divvy that money out
case by case as each person pitches their need.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
So I change it a little bit. Instead of case manager,
you might have a subclass, right, you might have a
subclass within the big class of like these are all
people whose windows got cracked, and these are all the
people who'se you know, foundation got super interesting.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
But over in the Cape Canaveral are looking at it different.
It's not like a lawsuit. It's like the city is
assuming the responsibility of that, right. I mean, it's kind
of wild that I've never heard of anything like this
is a private companies doing business on NASA federal property
and possibly causing damage to homes around there. Like where
do you even start with that? Like, I mean, people
are Mary and Island are probably like glued over Cape
(10:50):
Canaveral glued to the radio right now, going yeah, how
is that going to happen?
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Well, and it may not completely eliminate the possibility of
a lawsuit, right, gotcha. You know a little bit of
a difference is you know, when we had NASA, NASA
was the only person shooting off rockets. It was one
rocket every I don't know what. Yeah, And it's the
(11:14):
cycle which they're shooting these things off, which I think
has really changed the complexion of the damages that people
are sustaining and so you know.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
And really we have yet to see the environment environmental
impact of this either with all of the rocket the
fuels and the chemicals being used that as they're burning
will eventually settle back down into the waterways and onto
the residents and the flora of the area. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
and then to a wildlife refuge. Yeah, you're right.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
I've been at that wildlife refuge. It's got a lot
of animals.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Yeah, that eagles nests that you get to see all
the times, the size of a sofa.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Man, those eagles are awesome.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Yeah. But yeah, well that's interesting.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
I do think it'll be interesting because that's a little
bit more of like it's more like an impact issue, right, like,
you know, the city impacted by the uh the launches
as opposed to individual houses.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Yeah so, and again that story was in February. I mean,
we're gonna eventually hear more about that, as as the
city kind of does that. And there was another thing
you said this morning. I did want to talk about
because it's in the gaming world, because you know anything
about the Sony settlement, guys, for gamers.
Speaker 5 (12:19):
I know something that a huge change just happened. And
I'm quoting the internet here and I glossed by it,
but I'm pretty sure it has something to do with
the digital sale of video games and how they basically
redefine the word by Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
So I was thinking about Ross when I saw this story. Actually, sorry, Jack,
but you know, I think when I think of video games,
that's fine.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
I'm good for that.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
But so conceptually you're spot on Ross. So the idea
is there's usually two ways that you can buy games,
and now I think more often than not, it's the
digital way, as opposed to like a buying a CD.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Or downloading instead of walking into a store.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Right, and so, what the lawsuit was about was basically
an anti trust type lawsuit. Basically PlayStation and Sony I
created a monopoly over how you could buy these digital downloads.
So you know, for your phone or whatever, you want
to download Candy Crush. I don't know if it's a
still game anymore, but you have like options on where
(13:21):
you can download it from. And I don't know if
it's paid for it, but whatever. When you're buying a
Sony PlayStation game for a digital download, you had to
go through the Sony PlayStation Store and I don't know
exactly what the store is called, but their PlayStations think
it's store PS store. And so the problem was is
nobody else had access to be able to sell that.
So you couldn't go to game stop and buy these
(13:43):
digital downloads. You couldn't go to Amazon buy these digital downloads.
It's very similar. It's very similar. And that's actually where
my mind when I first read it was, you know,
when you've got a license and you can grant the
limited license, but you know the problem is is these
games are almost solely run out of these these platforms
and these applications. And so the court came down and
(14:07):
there ended up being a fairly large settlement where as
a as an anti trust violation that people who have
been using the Sony store, you know, because there's not
an open market for these things. The prices stay are
officially high, and people are gonna be entitled to money back.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Wow, like for all of their purchases, a portion of
their purchases.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
I think, Yeah, there were digital purchases, so yeah, I'm
sure you had to have receipts over a period of time.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
And then other news today like game Stop didn't game
Stop just make a pitch for eBay for fifty five
billion dollars.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
I did see something about game Stop today, but I
didn't see exactly what the store was.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
I thought that was a mean coin just what even
like a like a year ago. And now they're making
a pitch to buy the biggest online retailer, not the
biggest online retail biggest online auction system out there. Yeah
that's wild, dude.
Speaker 5 (14:51):
Well I don't even understand how that can happen. I
don't understand the stock market.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Yeah, well, somebody invested a lot of money and game Stop,
I'm assuming, and now game Stop wants to go buy
something else.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Yeah, they want to buy eBay and actually turn all
that into a I read the story today they want
to kind of transform eBay into a different kind of
retailer to kind of go after Amazon because they already
have the database for it. Right, that's the thing. Because
Walmart wanted to do this years ago and they were
they were two years too late, and I know internally
it eats them alive.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
The values in the data. Yeah, you guys have talked
about it for years that if it's something is free,
you are you are the product, you know. And so
that's the craziest headline for all the game.
Speaker 5 (15:28):
It says game Stop offers fifty six billion to buy eBay,
and every gamer is like, game Stop ain't got that.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
Well, you were just about to close six months ago.
Speaker 5 (15:39):
That's why we joke bought their stock.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
Exactly. What is happening?
Speaker 1 (15:44):
My spirit airlines? Somebody reads it goes we were fun
and we were just having the fun.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
All right.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
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Yeah, we're going to talk about a Secret Service shooting
near the Washington Monument. Closer to home, Jet Blue expands
its flight schedule and a South Korean nap contest h
nap contests.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
I'd win that.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
Oh I'm not so sure you would. Oh really, but
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