October 28, 2025 • 16 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
This is asked and answered questions with Tom Upferman and
Steelers Digest editor Bob Labriola.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Steelers fell to the Packers on Sunday Night football, thirty
five to twenty five. It's the team's second straight loss,
and Labs, just like in Cincinnati, you look at the defense,
and to put it lightly, you needed a lot better
from that side of the ball on Sunday night.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Yeah, the first half wasn't bad. Nope, second half was awful.
Just the number of yards giving up, the number of
points given up. You know, the Packers scored twenty one
points in the fourth quarter. You know, good teams, good
defenses aren't supposed to will like that. And I understand
(00:48):
that Green Bay is a good team. Certainly at the
start of the season, they were being pumped as the
by the hype machine as you know, a likely NFC
representative in the Super Bowl. I don't know if they're
that good or not, but still, uh and you know,
(01:09):
there were just there just didn't seem any to be
any answers for some of the things that the Packers
were doing. You know, the tight end continues to be
a problem for the Steelers, whoever it is, whoever whichever
team he plays on. And you know, I am sorry
(01:29):
to sorry to the listeners, but I don't have any answers.
You know, I don't know what to say. I I'm
surprised that the defense has been playing like this and
a lot of the people that they brought in with
pedigrees and impressive resumes and that kind of thing. I
(01:50):
don't know if it's a mesh thing, a cohesion thing,
or a declining skills thing or I just don't know,
but it's certainly not good enough.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
It's really hard to pinpoint. You know, it's a specific
problem here, it's a specific problem there. That's kind of
what the team's job is right now as they get
back in the lab this week and try to figure
things out, because it gets no easier. On Sunday Labs,
the number one offense in the NFL is coming to
town in Indianapolis.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Yeah, and Daniel Jones, we talk about a Lazarus story
this guy. I mean, can you both Okay? Daniel Jones
and Saquon Barkley once played in the same backfield for
the New York Giants, right, just look at what they
have become, you know, But to me, it's the running
(02:40):
back Jonathan Taylor. He's just he's unbelievable. I mean some
of the some of the Jonathan Taylor amazing stats in
my mind. Let me just give you a few of
them here. Jonathan Taylor. He went into lest week's game
(03:01):
with eleven touchdowns. That was five more than the Titans
as a team. Okay. Taylor also is on pace to
lead the NFL in carries, rushing yards, and rushing touchdowns.
That's referred to as a running backs triple crown. Taylor
also did that in twenty twenty twenty one, so if
(03:24):
he does it again, he would be the first player
to win multiple rushing triple crowns. Outright, There's only one
other guy who's done it, Jim Brown.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Pretty good company.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Yes, So yeah, he is. He is a full time problem.
I you know, Week six, one hundred and thirty six
yards rushing, one hundred and thirty two yards rushing, Week eight,
one hundred and seventy four yards rushing, and whatever he
(03:59):
had against the Titan which was a big number as well.
So yeah, the run defense has has a big time
challenge ahead of it. And then you know, Daniel Jones
is no walk in the park either.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
He certainly isn't. So the Steelers have their work cut
out for them on Sunday as they try to bounce
back and end this losing streak. Let's get to this
week's questions. Our first one comes from Mike Viola from Pburg, Pennsylvania. Well,
the NFL ever consider implementing a draft lottery. I don't
think teams tank, but looking at some team's roster moves
this year dot dot dot.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
It's my opinion that a draft lottery is not necessary
in the NFL. You know, they have them in both
hockey and the NBA. And the reason that I think
that there's a difference there is, you know, basketball, there's
only five players on the team, to say, on the
court at the same time, and those players have to
play both offense and defense. You know, hockey is the
(04:57):
same thing, five skaters and a goaltender. The skaters play
both offense and defense. Most of them do anyway, or
at least that's the theory in the sport. But in football,
you have eleven players on each team has eleven players
on the field at a time. Okay, so there's eleven
(05:17):
offense and then there's separate units. So you have eleven
players on offense and eleven players on defense. So that's
twenty two guys. So the potential impact for one player.
You know, you want to tank for a draft pick
or whoever the number one pick might be. You know,
when this college football season started, everybody thought it was
(05:38):
gonna be arch Manning, but doesn't really look that way anymore.
But anyway, so you know, and you also look at
the top of the NFL drafts recently runs on quarterbacks.
How many of them have been missus? How many of
them have not been successes until they got away from
(05:59):
the team that rafted them. So I just don't I
just don't see the need for lottery in the NFL.
And here's another statistic I'll just throw out there. The
first NFL draft was in nineteen thirty six. Since then,
only fourteen of the guys who are the number one
(06:19):
overall pick have been elected to the Pro Football Hall
of Fame. So it's like fourteen of I don't know,
over eighty, right, and that's the number one overall pick.
So yeah, I'm not a draft lottery fan.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
John Hoffman from Gridley, Illinois. I often hear that Darnell
Washington is much heavier than has listed two hundred and
sixty four pounds, and I'm guessing he's not the only
player whose actual weight is significantly different than his listed weight.
Is this a strategy used by the coaching staff or
is it more that updating the weights for players is
not a big concern.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
I think it's a little bit of both. But you know,
if if it's a strategy thing, I think sometimes they
a team might want to keep a player's weight lower
to help him with his own self esteem or whatever.
You know, I don't know that Jerome Bettis was a
(07:21):
wigh what he was listed later in his career. Same
for Casey Anton. Just to pick a couple of Steelers.
Both are you know, very significant players. Jerome Betts in
the Hall of Fame. But you know, I don't I
don't think it's a big deal. The NFL doesn't really
take it that seriously in terms of, you know what
your listed weight is on a website or on a
(07:44):
roster sheet, or you know any of that stuff. And
but I can guarantee you there isn't a team in
the NFL that thinks, starting in Washington ways two hundred
and sixty four pounds.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
They're not buying it.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
No, no, no, they're.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Not Carl Warrit from Hollywood, Florida. What did we get
in return for trading George Pickens to the Cowboys. I
understand he was a problem child, but he seems to
be behaving and doing great at Dallas.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Okay, the trade terms were this. The Steelers sent George
Pickens and their number six pick in the twenty twenty
seven NFL Draft that went to Dallas. Dallas sent the
Steelers a number three pick in twenty twenty six and
the number five pick in twenty twenty seven.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
And as far as you know, Pickens doing great in Dallas. Yeah,
he's putting up numbers. But last time I checked Labs,
that Cowboys record is three four and one, So I
mean Pickens might be having himself a good time. I
don't know if Dallas is.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Yeah, and you know it's I always liked George Pickens
as a player, but he just became too much of
an issue. And the one thing about Pickens, I don't
know how he would have meshed with Aaron Rodgers. That's
a great point because Aaron Rodgers is in someone who
likes to caudle receivers. He expects a certain level of accountability,
(09:11):
and you know, I think the first or sad time
Rogers would have barked at George Pickens. You know, that
might not have worked out well. So I just again, yes,
he's a good player. I don't wish him any ill will,
but I just don't think I think it was it
(09:32):
was time, you know, fresh, fresh start.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Maybe agree Mark Barbusiak from at Go New Jersey. From
the travel photos posted on Steelers dot com, the team
obviously takes a charter flight to Cincinnati for the game.
Baltimore is about forty miles closer than Cincinnati, so I
guess that they also take a charter flight to Baltimore.
But Cleveland is only about one hundred and thirty five
miles from Pittsburgh, which is a little over a two
(09:56):
hour drive. Do the Steelers take a charter flight or
buses to Cleveland.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
For the most part of this? You know the history
of the series Steelers Browns first was played in nineteen
fifty and they played twice a year at least every
season except for you know, the ninety six, ninety seven,
ninety eight seasons, where after Modell took the team to
(10:23):
Baltimore and before the league put a new franchise in Cleveland.
So for they've they've done a little bit of both.
For the most part though, it has been buses, and
you know, the mark makes the point about the distance
and especially you know where it's it's easy to jump
(10:45):
on the turnpike. The Steelers typically stay in Eastern in
the eastern part of Cleveland. So yeah, even in buses,
it's barely two and I trust me as someone who's
made that bus ride a lot of times, it's it's
(11:06):
just about two hours. There was a short time in
the seventies where the Steelers flew to Cleveland, and see
the reason that they don't hadn't done that all along.
The airport in Cleveland is on the west side of
the city, so you know, when you have to get
(11:28):
get to your get yourself to the Pittsburgh airport, get
on the plane, fly to Cleveland, and then you're backtracking
to get back to where you would stay because of
where the downtown area is. So that just you know,
in terms of time, it's probably worse. You know when
you consider because in a bus you can't just well
(11:52):
excuse me, on a plane, you just can't consider the
flight time because you have to go to the airport
and then you have to and then when the Plainland
is you have to come, you know, get from the
airport to where you're going. Buses take you right to
the hotel. So it's it's a time saver, it's more
probably more convenient, and the reason that the Steelers flew
(12:14):
for those few years. This was Myron Koches theory anyway,
and no reason to doubt Myron. Chuck Noles's sister, you know,
Chuck Noles from his family was from the Cleveland area.
His sister lived west of Cleveland in the airport area.
So every time the Steelers would play in Cleveland, Chuck
(12:35):
and his sister would get together and go out for
dinner the night before the game. So it was easier
for that to happen if you flew to the airport
because you were closer for dinner. In Chuck's case, that
happened a few times, but then they went back to busing.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Hey, I don't blame Chuck for that. You know, you
got to make the little convenient right.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Well, after you put a couple of lombardies in the
in the law, you know, you can make the decisions. Well,
you can make some requests and they're considered, you know,
a little bit differently than if they were coming from
you know, the the.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Plumber Sean Bittner from Jacksonville, North Carolina. Arthur Smith has
been linked to the head coaching job at Tennessee. Do
the Steelers have any say on his availability during the.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Season, Yeah, I think the same might go beyond the
Steelers level, don't. I don't think the NFL would allow
a coach who's under contract to a team to take
a job with another team during the same season, So
(13:42):
that just I cannot imagine that happening, So forget about it.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
David Pollard from Warrington, United Kingdom. Jamar Chase had sixteen
receptions against the Steelers, which I believe is the highest
number of catches in a single game against Pittsburgh and
broke the record that had stood since nineteen eighty one.
Whose record did he break?
Speaker 1 (14:04):
And it was in nineteen eighty one. November fifteenth, the
Steelers were in Atlanta. They beat the Falcons thirty four
to twenty. Atlanta running back William Andrews caught fifteen passes
for one hundred and twenty four yards and no touchdowns.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Mike Powell from Universal City Texas has our final question. Today.
An offense calls the screen pass and the quarterback sees
that the defense has sniffed out, so he throws the
ball to the ground, sometimes darn near his own feet.
Why is this not intentional grounding even though it maybe
thrown near an eligible receiver. I thought the ball had
to at least reach the line of scrimmage and the
(14:43):
quarterback was not outside the pocket.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
Well, you know, when it comes to protecting the quarterback,
a lot of the strict rules for what or what
is not allowed are different. They're interpreted. So in this
particular case, if the quarterback would actually throw the ball
(15:08):
into the ground at his own feet, I would think
you'd see an intentional grounding penalty. However, if the screen
pass is set up, and you know, we've all seen
how these screen passes are set up, and if it's
not going to work and the quarterback just throws the
ball into the ground near the receiver, they just call
(15:28):
it an incomplete pass. I mean, that's I understand what
the rules say, but you're not going to get that
call as intentional grounding in that situation. Not in the
NFL anyway.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
I know this was an intentional grinding. But Labs, have
you ever seen what Rogers did when he was getting
sacked in that second half against Green Bay where he
was going down and just boop just kind of threw
the ball into the turf. The refs thought it was
a fumble at first, and Aaron had to go over
and be like, go look again, guys, go ask your
boys in New York, because I threw that ball into
the ground. Is off the charts, man.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Well there was another one. I think it was in
the Green Bay game too, where it was kind of
he was running towards their sideline and it might have
been like even a backhanded flip because the ball went
across the line of scrimmage. He was outside the pocket.
That's that's incomplete every time. Yep, yep.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Now, his IQ, his brain is off the charts. When
it comes to play in that position, they'll need it
and they'll need the defense to step up big time
on Sunday when the Indianapolis Colts come to town and
the Steelers try to bounce back and get one back
in the win column. He's Bob Labrielle. I'm Tom Opferman.
Thanks for giving us a listen on this podcast. Get
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future edition of Aston Answered
This is asked and answered questions with Tom Upferman and
Steelers Digest editor Bob Labriola.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Steelers fell to the Packers on Sunday Night football, thirty
five to twenty five. It's the team's second straight loss,
and Labs, just like in Cincinnati, you look at the defense,
and to put it lightly, you needed a lot better
from that side of the ball on Sunday night.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Yeah, the first half wasn't bad. Nope, second half was awful.
Just the number of yards giving up, the number of
points given up. You know, the Packers scored twenty one
points in the fourth quarter. You know, good teams, good
defenses aren't supposed to will like that. And I understand
(00:48):
that Green Bay is a good team. Certainly at the
start of the season, they were being pumped as the
by the hype machine as you know, a likely NFC
representative in the Super Bowl. I don't know if they're
that good or not, but still, uh and you know,
(01:09):
there were just there just didn't seem any to be
any answers for some of the things that the Packers
were doing. You know, the tight end continues to be
a problem for the Steelers, whoever it is, whoever whichever
team he plays on. And you know, I am sorry
(01:29):
to sorry to the listeners, but I don't have any answers.
You know, I don't know what to say. I I'm
surprised that the defense has been playing like this and
a lot of the people that they brought in with
pedigrees and impressive resumes and that kind of thing. I
(01:50):
don't know if it's a mesh thing, a cohesion thing,
or a declining skills thing or I just don't know,
but it's certainly not good enough.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
It's really hard to pinpoint. You know, it's a specific
problem here, it's a specific problem there. That's kind of
what the team's job is right now as they get
back in the lab this week and try to figure
things out, because it gets no easier. On Sunday Labs,
the number one offense in the NFL is coming to
town in Indianapolis.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Yeah, and Daniel Jones, we talk about a Lazarus story
this guy. I mean, can you both Okay? Daniel Jones
and Saquon Barkley once played in the same backfield for
the New York Giants, right, just look at what they
have become, you know, But to me, it's the running
(02:40):
back Jonathan Taylor. He's just he's unbelievable. I mean some
of the some of the Jonathan Taylor amazing stats in
my mind. Let me just give you a few of
them here. Jonathan Taylor. He went into lest week's game
(03:01):
with eleven touchdowns. That was five more than the Titans
as a team. Okay. Taylor also is on pace to
lead the NFL in carries, rushing yards, and rushing touchdowns.
That's referred to as a running backs triple crown. Taylor
also did that in twenty twenty twenty one, so if
(03:24):
he does it again, he would be the first player
to win multiple rushing triple crowns. Outright, There's only one
other guy who's done it, Jim Brown.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Pretty good company.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Yes, So yeah, he is. He is a full time problem.
I you know, Week six, one hundred and thirty six
yards rushing, one hundred and thirty two yards rushing, Week eight,
one hundred and seventy four yards rushing, and whatever he
(03:59):
had against the Titan which was a big number as well.
So yeah, the run defense has has a big time
challenge ahead of it. And then you know, Daniel Jones
is no walk in the park either.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
He certainly isn't. So the Steelers have their work cut
out for them on Sunday as they try to bounce
back and end this losing streak. Let's get to this
week's questions. Our first one comes from Mike Viola from Pburg, Pennsylvania. Well,
the NFL ever consider implementing a draft lottery. I don't
think teams tank, but looking at some team's roster moves
this year dot dot dot.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
It's my opinion that a draft lottery is not necessary
in the NFL. You know, they have them in both
hockey and the NBA. And the reason that I think
that there's a difference there is, you know, basketball, there's
only five players on the team, to say, on the
court at the same time, and those players have to
play both offense and defense. You know, hockey is the
(04:57):
same thing, five skaters and a goaltender. The skaters play
both offense and defense. Most of them do anyway, or
at least that's the theory in the sport. But in football,
you have eleven players on each team has eleven players
on the field at a time. Okay, so there's eleven
(05:17):
offense and then there's separate units. So you have eleven
players on offense and eleven players on defense. So that's
twenty two guys. So the potential impact for one player.
You know, you want to tank for a draft pick
or whoever the number one pick might be. You know,
when this college football season started, everybody thought it was
(05:38):
gonna be arch Manning, but doesn't really look that way anymore.
But anyway, so you know, and you also look at
the top of the NFL drafts recently runs on quarterbacks.
How many of them have been missus? How many of
them have not been successes until they got away from
(05:59):
the team that rafted them. So I just don't I
just don't see the need for lottery in the NFL.
And here's another statistic I'll just throw out there. The
first NFL draft was in nineteen thirty six. Since then,
only fourteen of the guys who are the number one
(06:19):
overall pick have been elected to the Pro Football Hall
of Fame. So it's like fourteen of I don't know,
over eighty, right, and that's the number one overall pick.
So yeah, I'm not a draft lottery fan.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
John Hoffman from Gridley, Illinois. I often hear that Darnell
Washington is much heavier than has listed two hundred and
sixty four pounds, and I'm guessing he's not the only
player whose actual weight is significantly different than his listed weight.
Is this a strategy used by the coaching staff or
is it more that updating the weights for players is
not a big concern.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
I think it's a little bit of both. But you know,
if if it's a strategy thing, I think sometimes they
a team might want to keep a player's weight lower
to help him with his own self esteem or whatever.
You know, I don't know that Jerome Bettis was a
(07:21):
wigh what he was listed later in his career. Same
for Casey Anton. Just to pick a couple of Steelers.
Both are you know, very significant players. Jerome Betts in
the Hall of Fame. But you know, I don't I
don't think it's a big deal. The NFL doesn't really
take it that seriously in terms of, you know what
your listed weight is on a website or on a
(07:44):
roster sheet, or you know any of that stuff. And
but I can guarantee you there isn't a team in
the NFL that thinks, starting in Washington ways two hundred
and sixty four pounds.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
They're not buying it.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
No, no, no, they're.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Not Carl Warrit from Hollywood, Florida. What did we get
in return for trading George Pickens to the Cowboys. I
understand he was a problem child, but he seems to
be behaving and doing great at Dallas.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Okay, the trade terms were this. The Steelers sent George
Pickens and their number six pick in the twenty twenty
seven NFL Draft that went to Dallas. Dallas sent the
Steelers a number three pick in twenty twenty six and
the number five pick in twenty twenty seven.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
And as far as you know, Pickens doing great in Dallas. Yeah,
he's putting up numbers. But last time I checked Labs,
that Cowboys record is three four and one, So I
mean Pickens might be having himself a good time. I
don't know if Dallas is.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Yeah, and you know it's I always liked George Pickens
as a player, but he just became too much of
an issue. And the one thing about Pickens, I don't
know how he would have meshed with Aaron Rodgers. That's
a great point because Aaron Rodgers is in someone who
likes to caudle receivers. He expects a certain level of accountability,
(09:11):
and you know, I think the first or sad time
Rogers would have barked at George Pickens. You know, that
might not have worked out well. So I just again, yes,
he's a good player. I don't wish him any ill will,
but I just don't think I think it was it
(09:32):
was time, you know, fresh, fresh start.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Maybe agree Mark Barbusiak from at Go New Jersey. From
the travel photos posted on Steelers dot com, the team
obviously takes a charter flight to Cincinnati for the game.
Baltimore is about forty miles closer than Cincinnati, so I
guess that they also take a charter flight to Baltimore.
But Cleveland is only about one hundred and thirty five
miles from Pittsburgh, which is a little over a two
(09:56):
hour drive. Do the Steelers take a charter flight or
buses to Cleveland.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
For the most part of this? You know the history
of the series Steelers Browns first was played in nineteen
fifty and they played twice a year at least every
season except for you know, the ninety six, ninety seven,
ninety eight seasons, where after Modell took the team to
(10:23):
Baltimore and before the league put a new franchise in Cleveland.
So for they've they've done a little bit of both.
For the most part though, it has been buses, and
you know, the mark makes the point about the distance
and especially you know where it's it's easy to jump
(10:45):
on the turnpike. The Steelers typically stay in Eastern in
the eastern part of Cleveland. So yeah, even in buses,
it's barely two and I trust me as someone who's
made that bus ride a lot of times, it's it's
(11:06):
just about two hours. There was a short time in
the seventies where the Steelers flew to Cleveland, and see
the reason that they don't hadn't done that all along.
The airport in Cleveland is on the west side of
the city, so you know, when you have to get
(11:28):
get to your get yourself to the Pittsburgh airport, get
on the plane, fly to Cleveland, and then you're backtracking
to get back to where you would stay because of
where the downtown area is. So that just you know,
in terms of time, it's probably worse. You know when
you consider because in a bus you can't just well
(11:52):
excuse me, on a plane, you just can't consider the
flight time because you have to go to the airport
and then you have to and then when the Plainland
is you have to come, you know, get from the
airport to where you're going. Buses take you right to
the hotel. So it's it's a time saver, it's more
probably more convenient, and the reason that the Steelers flew
(12:14):
for those few years. This was Myron Koches theory anyway,
and no reason to doubt Myron. Chuck Noles's sister, you know,
Chuck Noles from his family was from the Cleveland area.
His sister lived west of Cleveland in the airport area.
So every time the Steelers would play in Cleveland, Chuck
(12:35):
and his sister would get together and go out for
dinner the night before the game. So it was easier
for that to happen if you flew to the airport
because you were closer for dinner. In Chuck's case, that
happened a few times, but then they went back to busing.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Hey, I don't blame Chuck for that. You know, you
got to make the little convenient right.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Well, after you put a couple of lombardies in the
in the law, you know, you can make the decisions. Well,
you can make some requests and they're considered, you know,
a little bit differently than if they were coming from
you know, the the.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Plumber Sean Bittner from Jacksonville, North Carolina. Arthur Smith has
been linked to the head coaching job at Tennessee. Do
the Steelers have any say on his availability during the.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Season, Yeah, I think the same might go beyond the
Steelers level, don't. I don't think the NFL would allow
a coach who's under contract to a team to take
a job with another team during the same season, So
(13:42):
that just I cannot imagine that happening, So forget about it.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
David Pollard from Warrington, United Kingdom. Jamar Chase had sixteen
receptions against the Steelers, which I believe is the highest
number of catches in a single game against Pittsburgh and
broke the record that had stood since nineteen eighty one.
Whose record did he break?
Speaker 1 (14:04):
And it was in nineteen eighty one. November fifteenth, the
Steelers were in Atlanta. They beat the Falcons thirty four
to twenty. Atlanta running back William Andrews caught fifteen passes
for one hundred and twenty four yards and no touchdowns.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Mike Powell from Universal City Texas has our final question. Today.
An offense calls the screen pass and the quarterback sees
that the defense has sniffed out, so he throws the
ball to the ground, sometimes darn near his own feet.
Why is this not intentional grounding even though it maybe
thrown near an eligible receiver. I thought the ball had
to at least reach the line of scrimmage and the
(14:43):
quarterback was not outside the pocket.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
Well, you know, when it comes to protecting the quarterback,
a lot of the strict rules for what or what
is not allowed are different. They're interpreted. So in this
particular case, if the quarterback would actually throw the ball
(15:08):
into the ground at his own feet, I would think
you'd see an intentional grounding penalty. However, if the screen
pass is set up, and you know, we've all seen
how these screen passes are set up, and if it's
not going to work and the quarterback just throws the
ball into the ground near the receiver, they just call
(15:28):
it an incomplete pass. I mean, that's I understand what
the rules say, but you're not going to get that
call as intentional grounding in that situation. Not in the
NFL anyway.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
I know this was an intentional grinding. But Labs, have
you ever seen what Rogers did when he was getting
sacked in that second half against Green Bay where he
was going down and just boop just kind of threw
the ball into the turf. The refs thought it was
a fumble at first, and Aaron had to go over
and be like, go look again, guys, go ask your
boys in New York, because I threw that ball into
the ground. Is off the charts, man.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Well there was another one. I think it was in
the Green Bay game too, where it was kind of
he was running towards their sideline and it might have
been like even a backhanded flip because the ball went
across the line of scrimmage. He was outside the pocket.
That's that's incomplete every time. Yep, yep.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Now, his IQ, his brain is off the charts. When
it comes to play in that position, they'll need it
and they'll need the defense to step up big time
on Sunday when the Indianapolis Colts come to town and
the Steelers try to bounce back and get one back
in the win column. He's Bob Labrielle. I'm Tom Opferman.
Thanks for giving us a listen on this podcast. Get
your questions into labs. Maybe you'll hear them on a
future edition of Aston Answered
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