Rookie Numbers Unveiled - Cleveland Browns Daily - 5.6.25

The guys talk rookie numbers and go through the best Browns and NFL players to ever wear those numbers. A little helmet talk today plus higher or lower (1:20:50) on a Tuesday edition of the program with Beau and Nathan.

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Speaker 1 (00:14):
Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus
in Barrea, Ohio. This is Cleveland Browns Daily, presented by
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Browns on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland. Here are your hosts,
Bo Bishop and Nathan Zegura.

Speaker 2 (01:02):
Was so Alive on a Tuesday edition at Cleveland Brown's Daily.
I am merely Bo. He is the great Z. So
I was in your neighborhood last night, the vicinity of
your I heard, Yeah. Were you impacted at all by
the weather? No? But it was like.

Speaker 3 (01:22):
No, In fact, there was really not much weather at
our house until like I want to say, eleven.

Speaker 2 (01:27):
That's when I got that too.

Speaker 3 (01:29):
Then it was bombs, bombs, crazy thunder, Asa Woody running
for cover, not happy, shaking, trembling. It was yeah, though,
that's when it got a little bit crazy. But no,
for the most part.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
No, yeah, uh. There was lightning in the distance and
that was enough to cancel the lacrosse at us which
was not ideally like radars. They didn't have lights at
the middle school, which I was light till eight. Yeah,
but it would we would have been into that at
that point. So that that's surprising. Beams. He did get
to play under the lights and that finished. I don't

(02:03):
know how it happened. The reason I asked you about
your weather is because we were standing there watching the
weather around us, and I just kept thinking to myself,
there's no way we're getting this in. I mean, this
was this was last night. So we started at eight o'clock. Okay,
this was surrounding us at eight oh eight.

Speaker 3 (02:22):
It looks like it's like Ghostbusters. It's like Ghostbuster. Also
looks like that could be taking place in like West Texas.

Speaker 4 (02:28):
Dogs and cats living together, mass hysteria.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
I have you back. Yeah, you got some great weather.

Speaker 4 (02:35):
By the way, I was very angry last night because
we were trending like we were going to get slammed,
and at the last minute made a left and it
got aliria.

Speaker 2 (02:45):
I was not pleased. What are you talking about? You
rather get slammed.

Speaker 4 (02:49):
I was hoping for a little adventure last night.

Speaker 2 (02:52):
Oh my god, dude, you listen. I missed. I've missed
it all this weekend. I know I say this. I'm
going to say this.

Speaker 3 (02:58):
I golfed in forty degree weather and a steady down.
Poor GiB We're not hearing it.

Speaker 2 (03:02):
It was terrible. We lost sixty two pax Fest. We're
not gonna hear it. Give me. I think this might
be non winter, the greatest escape to better weather in
the history of this show. What Gibbey did this weekend
non winter because anytime you get out February January, that's winning.

Speaker 3 (03:23):
And spring is rible.

Speaker 2 (03:25):
It's terrible. But like, there wasn't a single good day
when he was gone. If he had stayed gone until Thursday,
that's how much longer we have of this it's gonna
be I think, I think we're okay.

Speaker 4 (03:37):
But if you look at there after after today.

Speaker 3 (03:39):
But if you look at the weather starting Friday and
then for like the next ten days, like Thursday, still
like in the fifties.

Speaker 2 (03:46):
Yeah, oh gosh, fifty five for the high end rain
eighty four percents Raindom Thursday says who.

Speaker 4 (03:53):
That was not on my wedding this morning? Come no
rain after today?

Speaker 2 (03:59):
For like, no, no, no, this is accu weather. I'm looking
at the weather, by the.

Speaker 3 (04:02):
Way, should change their name. I'm done with them.

Speaker 2 (04:04):
They've done out. They are in acue everything. They were
pretty good last night, but uh so today I have
fifty nine Tomorrow nearing seventy twenty five percent chance, then
Thursday here in berea fifty five degrees high and an
eighty four percent chance of rain, and then the weekend.

Speaker 3 (04:22):
Oh my god, this forecast is completely changed from when
I looked this morning.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
Come on, no, it was supposed to be seventy you
were in Florida.

Speaker 3 (04:29):
It was supposed to be seventy and basically sunny.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
From No, No, I've got no starting on Sunday, sev Saturday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday.
We were about to go on a real heater. Yeah,
well we're gonna have I'm trusting the weather ch I
h I have sixty Sunday Weather channel.

Speaker 3 (04:54):
No. No, Weather channel says seventy four Sunday and full sun.

Speaker 4 (04:59):
You gotta be kidd a weather and Sundays seventy degrees.

Speaker 2 (05:02):
What are we going to do here? Let's let's see
who's most accurate? All right, let's right.

Speaker 3 (05:07):
Yeah, this says no rain. So I have two that
say no rain, and only ACU Weather says rain. By
the way, ACI Weather was dead wrong about my trip
to White Sulfur Springs West Virginia.

Speaker 2 (05:17):
All right, so give me your are using weather Channel?

Speaker 3 (05:21):
So I have the Weather Channel app and then I
have like just the regular you know, Apple Weather.

Speaker 2 (05:25):
That's the Weather Channel app. Right, is appening?

Speaker 3 (05:26):
It's different?

Speaker 2 (05:27):
Which one do you want to use?

Speaker 3 (05:28):
I'll give you the Weather Channel app.

Speaker 2 (05:30):
All right, let's go. And what do you got, Gibbe,
I'm on the Weather Channel. You're there too, all right?
Weather Channel versus ACI Weather? Okay? All right, because I'm paying,
I pay for ACI Weather. I'm done. I'm going to
be done. If this is if it's and I've always
felt like it was the best of the app It
was dark sky we had it was oh, dark sky
was elite.

Speaker 3 (05:50):
It knew what was happening.

Speaker 2 (05:51):
It was all over.

Speaker 3 (05:51):
It was actually all over it.

Speaker 2 (05:52):
I forgot all about the dark all right, So give
me give me tomorrow tomorrow Weather Channel sixty nine. Okay,
what seed.

Speaker 3 (06:01):
Are you using?

Speaker 2 (06:02):
Though? Borea? Okay?

Speaker 3 (06:03):
All right, I'm in Bentleyville. I'm at my home.

Speaker 2 (06:05):
Yeah you know Borea. Oh yeah, we got to have
a we have to have a unify, don't we do.

Speaker 3 (06:09):
Our home areas well?

Speaker 2 (06:10):
But I'm ten to ten miles or fifteen miles south
of you.

Speaker 3 (06:14):
All right, all right, So for Berea, we'll use Boria
because it's Wednesday. I got sixty nine twenty four percent chancer.

Speaker 2 (06:23):
Ring, Okay, Wednesday, I got sixty nine twenty five percent
chancer Okay, all right, give me your.

Speaker 3 (06:27):
Thursday, because this is where just so we're way warmer
on the east side's much warmer. East Side's much warmer.

Speaker 2 (06:36):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (06:37):
So this is Thursday, fifty three three twenty four percent,
all right, twenty four.

Speaker 2 (06:44):
So I'm seeing fifty five and eighty four percent.

Speaker 3 (06:49):
Big discrepancy.

Speaker 2 (06:50):
That's so huge difference on your Thursday. All right. Give
me your Friday.

Speaker 3 (06:53):
Sixty sunny and six percent.

Speaker 2 (06:56):
Sixty and six percent. It's brisk, uh, So the numbers
are the same. I got sixty and zero percent, okay.

Speaker 3 (07:04):
No, Sunday I got seventy and.

Speaker 2 (07:06):
Four percent on Saturday.

Speaker 3 (07:07):
Saturday seventy and four percent. Sunday seventy one and four percent,
Monday seven.

Speaker 2 (07:11):
Okay, So Sunday I got sixty.

Speaker 3 (07:14):
Seventy one four percent, Monday seventy eight.

Speaker 2 (07:17):
So Saturdays are the same. Sunday is a big difference though,
because I have sixty yeah, and what do.

Speaker 3 (07:21):
You have seventy one, Sunday four percent.

Speaker 2 (07:24):
Okay, So the big difference is here because really Wednesday,
Friday and Saturday a very there. Monday is seventy.

Speaker 3 (07:31):
Four and zero and I'm seventy eight and four.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
So the ones we have to pay attention to are Thursday,
which is ACTI Weather eighty four percent chance, Weather Channel
a twenty four percent chance but a similar top temp.
And then Saturday, where.

Speaker 3 (07:47):
Good news, we have far less rain and we're much warmer.

Speaker 2 (07:49):
We're Sunday rather, I'll be able to get zero turnback Sunday.
You were on seventy one and I was at sixty. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (07:56):
On here this says in an Aurora, which is in between. Yeah,
our Sunday Sunday seventy five and Sunday Saturday seventy two
on Sunday, which is nice for Moursday seventy five and
Sunday Monday eighty one, and Sunday then seventy seven, say
seventy seven and Sunday then eighty two.

Speaker 2 (08:11):
It should be. It's the middle of May.

Speaker 4 (08:13):
Yeah, it's enough. I'd like to get this SkELL in here.
How was your by the way, Yeah, well how was
your trip?

Speaker 2 (08:21):
Give? Weather was fine?

Speaker 4 (08:23):
Except like you guys, I was gonna try to get
out and play nine holes on Sunday morning. Yeah, nothing
on the weather, on the weather channel, app nothing on
anything that would indicate there was a chance of a
shower except late day because it was ninety degrees. I

(08:44):
woke up at seven am to hail on Sunday morning.
It never stopped raining. It never stopped raining till two o'clock.

Speaker 2 (08:50):
Hail in Florida.

Speaker 4 (08:51):
Yeah, what the hell, man, I'm like, well, Sunday last
day washed out. Wow, to the pool for a couple hours.
But hey, beggars can't be cheap.

Speaker 3 (09:04):
Maybe he didn't have the best weather.

Speaker 2 (09:07):
Flip flip. Friday and Saturday were great. Yeah, Thursday was good.
You did, I think because Sunday Saturday here was a
complete loss. Sunday was a complete loss here. It was
a wasted weekend. There's nothing you could do. Yep. You
weren't going out. You weren't going outside unless you're just
gonna get wet, which is what we did. I mean,
it's just it is brutal.

Speaker 4 (09:27):
Yes, Like our dog watcher was like, the dogs won't
go outside to go to the bathroom. I'm like, I
don't blame. Give them the weather. The one is more
than happy to hold it for a good sixteen hours
if need be. He's he's really good at that. The
other one, you gotta force, you gotta just kick her out.

Speaker 2 (09:46):
Well, is a said, will she hold? Will she?

Speaker 3 (09:50):
What hold?

Speaker 2 (09:51):
Her? Having to go to the bathroom due to implement weather.

Speaker 3 (09:54):
Oh yeah, she's now she's a full ont adult.

Speaker 2 (09:56):
Oh yeah, And she's like, I'm not doing this, dad,
forget it.

Speaker 3 (09:59):
Yeah yeah, Now if it a real rain, she refuses
to go on a walk, she's like, you know, yep, Snow,
she's not a huge fan of anymore. She likes to
go play for a little bit. But then she's like good.
She looks at her pause, like what the heck man exists? Man? Yeah, no,
she's she's great. No, No, she has.

Speaker 2 (10:18):
Not had buddy garrity. Uh.

Speaker 3 (10:22):
She only has fight accidents now, Like if we go
on like a she's like, watch long vacation and we
come back, she's like, don't leave me.

Speaker 2 (10:29):
Again, don't do that. He is finally to the point
where I think he's getting there because like last night,
young though two and a half. Last night, like it
was pouring when I went to put him out at ten.
He was like dead, really, I can just go to bed.
I'm good. Yeah, I'm like, all right, that's fine. You
were out about forty five minutes ago. And he made it.
He was fine, it's it all worked.

Speaker 3 (10:49):
We'll see how you roll.

Speaker 2 (10:51):
Yeah, we will.

Speaker 3 (10:51):
Yeah, he's listening two and a half. He's still like
he's like fourteen.

Speaker 2 (10:54):
He's a teen, Yeah he is, he's Yeah. He had
his buddy Augustus McCrae over the other day. And Augustus McRae. Yeah,
that's right. Whoa you never saw a lonesome dove. The
dog's names Gus. I just made it Augustus McCrae because
I love Augustus McCray from his name's Gus. But I
just call him Augustus McCray because it's why wouldn't you,

(11:15):
Because it's Robert Devall's character.

Speaker 3 (11:17):
In Lons of Dove, who's great, fantastic.

Speaker 2 (11:18):
So that's where that comes from. But yeah, so like
they had their little plate, they had seen each other.
While it was Friday, it was relatively dry. Uh, if
you're curious to be found the only mud pit on
the entire property, you bet he did. Did he roll
in it? Yep. Did that lead to him essentially going
into county with a shawshanks shower? Yep? Yeah. Was he
crazy about that? Nope, not at all.

Speaker 3 (11:40):
Did you give him some spie cold water?

Speaker 2 (11:41):
Of course? They did same thing I did with the
boys over the weekend. That's what they get. You're gonna
be in the mud. Spray it down, boys, it's all
in play.

Speaker 3 (11:52):
I love to eat the cold water. My mom Nana
was like, does bo have a little bit of a
mean streak?

Speaker 2 (12:00):
For sure? There's a spite sword in me. Yeah, of course,
I said, yeah, there's no doubt. Yeah, of course, a
little bit. Yeah, gotta have a little fun, little humility. Yeah,
do you remember who's in charge? Boys? Oh? I forgot
I could turn the warm water on in the hose.

Speaker 4 (12:13):
Sorry, I have no problem. My wife gets angry about that.
She's like, we have hot water.

Speaker 2 (12:17):
I go.

Speaker 4 (12:18):
But when the dog is dumb, this is what the dog.
Sometimes the dog starts with a little cold water.

Speaker 2 (12:23):
Say, un, how I feel about my children? Yeah, it
starts with a little cold water.

Speaker 3 (12:27):
First.

Speaker 2 (12:27):
Boys, YEA will work our way up.

Speaker 4 (12:29):
Won't make the mistake twice? Will you?

Speaker 2 (12:31):
No? You won't? All right? Can I tell you something
that we I would love for you to We have
time hour and forty eight minutes. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (12:38):
Go, by the way, we got some numbers which we're
going to get into. I think I think we need
to save the numbers for their own. We can get it.
We can get a full we can get maybe two
segs out of there. This is I had a good
and tell me what we think of this idea?

Speaker 2 (12:50):
I had tell me, I believe the quote is, tell
me what you think about this good idea.

Speaker 3 (13:00):
I had a leading the witness, leading the witness, So
we got to tell you what you think about this
great idea? Well tell well, maybe you'll maybe maybe maybe.
So we got the new numbers right for the rooms
and the vets, that all got new numbers, so I
think we should obviously will communicate those. But then what
I think we should do is give are the first

(13:23):
round that comes to mind of the number ye and
then the second one will be your favorite player to
ever wear that number football only you have to obviously
the football, but favorite football player ever to wear that number.

Speaker 2 (13:35):
The whole roster are just the new numbers that we're assigned.

Speaker 3 (13:38):
Now, I'm exact question that I asked him. Yeah, I'm
willing to do the whole roster, but I think we
should just we could leave for today, we could do
the numbers. How about or if we have so much
fun with it, then we'll do what we can do more.

Speaker 2 (13:49):
I also think do it tomorrow. We also have to
stay out. I think glamour numbers.

Speaker 3 (13:55):
Because I think we go through anything, let's really test ourselves.

Speaker 2 (13:57):
Having lived with a child. And I have to do
this because they get a signed numbers, because God forbid,
they get to pick their numbers. Because oh so I
actually had to talk NBC. He was issued forty six
as a as a fifth grader.

Speaker 3 (14:12):
A tough one.

Speaker 2 (14:12):
That's a tough sell. That's a Tim McDonald to McDonald
were forty six Cardinals safety. Yeah, it's a Todd Christiansen.
Oh yeah, and that's it. Let me tell you something, Christian.
I thought it was eighty seven. When you tell an
eleven year old, No, Todd Christian with the Raiders is
forty six. When you tell an eleven year old and

(14:33):
you say, dude, Todd Christiansen wore this numbers a good number,
and then you pull up a picture of Todd Christensen,
it's a tough sell.

Speaker 3 (14:38):
Tough cell.

Speaker 2 (14:39):
What do you mean, pull it up, pull a beautiful perm,
pull up great mustache. It is a very that should
not be. That's a very lost in time generational look
out of Todd Christiansen. You don't see a lot of
people nowadays walking around like that, unless to Christiansen is
trying to do it. Ironically, Todd christian is a handsome dude,
he is, but that look is, dude, I'm well aware

(15:02):
of the look. That is a tight ogilvy home perm,
a bushy magnum p I mustache. Yes, that is one
of one. There is keV. There is not a kid
on planet Globes who would look at that and go timely.
Now maybe maybe.

Speaker 4 (15:19):
High school, maybe high school. He's like, yeah, I could
do that.

Speaker 3 (15:22):
Showing that picture hair coming out of the years ago.

Speaker 2 (15:26):
See maybe that one.

Speaker 3 (15:28):
Yeah, that one's not bad.

Speaker 2 (15:29):
Even the face mask is brutal.

Speaker 1 (15:31):
All right.

Speaker 3 (15:32):
I didn't realize we had lost I didn't realize we
had either twenty thirteen.

Speaker 2 (15:35):
So for some while ago, Oh I didn't know that
in murdy Utah, Yeah, those were, but that's it. So
some of these are tough. Some of these numbers are
it's hard to even come up with it. But we're
gonna no, we're gonna do it. That's fine.

Speaker 3 (15:48):
We're going to figure it out.

Speaker 2 (15:49):
Yeah, yeah, I am. I am for all of that.
Speaking of the numbers, the rookie should we do this now?
We should do the rookie jump for Jersey is news? Yes,
need to do something. Do it now, We'll do the
other stuff. Rookie Jersey numbers are out in advance of
Rookie Mini camp. We've Nathan I made this. We've talked

(16:10):
about this like these might.

Speaker 3 (16:12):
Not instant reaction because we now we have another game
that we're gonna play, but right now, instant reaction. Do
you like it or do notep? And do you think
it's safe to buy?

Speaker 2 (16:24):
Okay? I like it. Mason Graham ninety four.

Speaker 3 (16:27):
Like it and different, and I deem it safe. Ninety
four is a good it's a defensive tackle number.

Speaker 2 (16:34):
It's fine.

Speaker 3 (16:34):
Dalvin Dana Stubblefield.

Speaker 2 (16:36):
That's a good one. Dana Stubblefield's a good one. Charles Hayley, Charles,
not a d tackle. Now we're ruining our game. Yeah,
indifferent defensive tackle. You can make it. That's fine, that's fine.

Speaker 3 (16:49):
I like it way better than fifty five. I don't
like fifty numbers on defense tackles.

Speaker 2 (16:55):
Yeah, Carson Swesssinger forty nine, I like it, and it
is very safe.

Speaker 3 (17:03):
That was his college number. And that's why I like it,
because this is he's and he sat right there in
that very chair, yep, and he told me like, we're like,
forty nine kind of a rough number. And he's like, well,
that's because nobody's worn it well enough yet.

Speaker 2 (17:16):
And I will here's the cool thing about it, and
I this is this tells you what UCLA thought of
Carson Sweessinger at the time that he got on campus. Yeah,
because the least the least coveted jersey numbers yeap, in
college football are forty six to forty nine. Those are

(17:36):
the least coveted, Like good luck name in a forty eight, good.

Speaker 3 (17:42):
Luck forty sevens are, boy, Charlie Hewlett.

Speaker 2 (17:45):
Well you can do something with forty seven. I mean
even in college AJ Hawk wore forty seven. Like there's
a little something you can do.

Speaker 3 (17:50):
I think I have a forty nine in the draft
that you're going to say.

Speaker 2 (17:52):
Oh, okay, so, but so I think what's cool about
this is for cars. My guess is every time he
looks down, he goes reminder, that's that's where I came from.
I came from star I'm a nobody star walk On.
I got probably the least coveted jersey in college football

(18:14):
jersey distribution forty nine and forty eight would be the
two least.

Speaker 3 (18:18):
This is where we really missed the g man.

Speaker 2 (18:20):
Like forty six is in the mix too. I think
he's texting us man J bad.

Speaker 1 (18:27):
G Man.

Speaker 3 (18:30):
What I was going to say is I wish he
were here because I'm curious. Is Carson Sweessinger a pick
thirty three the highest pick for a no star walk On?

Speaker 2 (18:46):
Ever? Well, uh, Cam Word would be in that conversation.
Was he a no star he went incarnate word? I'm
pretty sure he was. If he was, if he had
any stars, I don't know if he had any, he.

Speaker 3 (19:02):
Might have my guess if you have gotten a scholarship
to incarnate word.

Speaker 2 (19:05):
Probably did. But that's one double A. That's one double A.
I wouldn't I wouldn't be surprised if retroactively somebody puts
some stars on him. It's also gonna be hard because
he transferred twice, so there's gonna be like transfer ratings
on him, but I would imagine he would be in
the highest you know, I don't know, Okay, zero star,

(19:29):
yeah zero technically not a walk on, No, but I
don't know if Swssenger would have been a walk on.
If he wanted to play one double a football, he
probably could have got a scholarship to play at South
Dakota or South Dakota State or North Dakota or something
like that.

Speaker 4 (19:49):
G Man's responded, he said, Baker was a walk on
at Texas Tech.

Speaker 2 (19:53):
But he wasn't a zero star going Baker was a
state champion quarterback in Texas. He did walk on at
Texas Tech, but but he was a he was wasn't
a zero star. I think I nailed it with cam Ward.
I think that's the account that, Yeah, three star Baker
was a three star Bake had Bake just wasn't offered
by the big boys. Yeah, he got offers from the schools, Yeah,

(20:17):
just not the ones he wanted to go to. Correct
if I remember right, I thought there was something to where. Man,
It's been so long since I've thought about any of this,
but I remember Cliff was the quarterback or the coach
then at Texas Tech. He wanted to go there, and
I thought it was also something where like I think
to bake. It was something if I remember the story right,
It was something in my mind's eye where Cliff said,

(20:38):
I'm out of scollies. Can you come and then I'll
get you on second semester. Yeah, like that type of
thing because he was he was a state champion in
Texas at Austin Westlake, so he wasn't a nobody by
any means. Yeah, I think it's Cam. I think it's
I think it's Cam. Read at work. I looked it up.

(21:00):
There's a number that is available that Carson wore in
high school, number nineteen. It's not available though, Tilman wears it.
That's right, Cedric wears it. But yeah, so yeah, I
love it. I love it for him, all right. Quin
Shawn Judkins ten. This one is where I have my
first guides hate it. I don't get it. Don't. We

(21:21):
have him on video saying one or five?

Speaker 3 (21:23):
I thought so. And he was picked ahead of Gabriel,
so you think he would have had right the ability
to pick that ahead of ten.

Speaker 2 (21:33):
Steve Slayton at West Virginia, I remember wearing number ten
as a running back. Ten was my high school number. So,
but that's quarterback. Yeah, like, I don't think of it
as a tailback. No, Pacheco wears eleven, right, he might
wear ten. Does he wear ten? I can't remember.

Speaker 3 (21:52):
He does wear ten? Isao g Man coming in?

Speaker 4 (21:56):
Clay Matthews? The third was a no star walk on
but not picked higher than cam Ward?

Speaker 2 (22:01):
No, no, you can't get higher than one. G Man? Right,
I didn't have to go to Wadsworth High School or
where do you go? Kent State? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (22:08):
Yeah, I don't like that as a running back number.

Speaker 2 (22:12):
Why do you think this is? Why do you think
he's not five? So here's what was available as we
thought yesterday. One and we'll get in because there's some
vet switches. One, two, five, eight. Those were the single
digits that were available yesterday as far as we knew.

Speaker 3 (22:30):
Ten such a receiver number to me.

Speaker 4 (22:32):
Commonly worn by QB's and wide receiver.

Speaker 2 (22:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (22:35):
Yeah, like DeAndre Hopkins, Cooper cup Tyreek Hill.

Speaker 2 (22:38):
There's a lot of ten receivers. Yeah, I mean everything,
anything's gonna look cool on Q. I guess I'm surprised
that he didn't get the single digit.

Speaker 3 (22:48):
As we have to find that video can we find
that video. It's a Browns video.

Speaker 2 (22:51):
Yeah, we put it up on. I thought I heard
him say one and five.

Speaker 3 (22:56):
Thought five.

Speaker 2 (22:57):
He wore backup. He wore four at Ole miss he
wore one at Ohio State. Obviously he can't wear one
here because Emerson moved into one, moved into Emerson moved
into one. I said he wanted two, one, two, one
or two?

Speaker 3 (23:14):
Okay, if I said five was a backup, but I
could be wrong about that. Yeah, two two was taken
by a veteran, which we'll get to as well. That
was that's a stunner.

Speaker 2 (23:23):
Stunner because that's again they gave Jaquem Grant nine when
he came here. Yeah, it's seniority, I think, right. But
then I guess so the Q must have wanted ten
more than five, because I would think draft order would
be the second.

Speaker 3 (23:37):
I would think so as well, So I would say
I would agree with you on that, all right?

Speaker 2 (23:40):
Ten for him? I'm with you. I think it's going
to be a weird look if I don't make it
look cool.

Speaker 3 (23:44):
I don't believe this is safe to buy. I'd say
not safe.

Speaker 4 (23:47):
I'm with you that I would not buy jerseys just yet.

Speaker 3 (23:51):
I think you can buy Mason Graham and Swastnger. I
think those are I think Sweastnger is going to be
I think there are a few here that I think
you can buy. I think those you can buy.

Speaker 2 (23:58):
But I know I'm with you on ten. Yeah, I'm
gonna I want to see what shakes out with that.
Harold fannin Junior, Love It, safe to buy, Love it
and safe. Eighty eight eight it's any number. It's a
great number, great tight end number.

Speaker 3 (24:12):
Great number.

Speaker 2 (24:12):
Did he picket?

Speaker 3 (24:13):
He did in the vide Yet in that same video
he was the same video he was.

Speaker 2 (24:17):
Pumped Dylan Gabriel.

Speaker 4 (24:20):
Five.

Speaker 3 (24:21):
Isn't that what he wore?

Speaker 2 (24:22):
He wore eight?

Speaker 3 (24:23):
He wore eight in college, So how'd he end up
with five? Picket wore eight, picket took eight, picket took eight.
I would say, love it, and I think that's safe.
I don't see him moving out of five.

Speaker 2 (24:33):
Five's fine quarterback, it is, Yeah. I just think five
him and Q should have switched and then you would
have been on it. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (24:39):
Ten not a quarterback looks good.

Speaker 2 (24:41):
Five on a tailback?

Speaker 3 (24:42):
Who's the best best quarterback?

Speaker 2 (24:45):
Two?

Speaker 3 (24:46):
Where five McNabb, Jeff Garcia.

Speaker 2 (24:54):
Did he wear five?

Speaker 3 (24:55):
Garcia? Yeah, Kerry Collins Flacco were five in Baltimore.

Speaker 2 (24:59):
I'm pretty sure you're doing and then fifteen here? Yeah,
probably MNA.

Speaker 3 (25:07):
Joe Flacco is the only one who's won a Super
Bowl wearing number five.

Speaker 2 (25:11):
Paul Horning or five? Yes, correct, gonna go way back,
you are.

Speaker 3 (25:15):
Correct, sir?

Speaker 2 (25:17):
That great?

Speaker 4 (25:18):
So j Max went back and looked five and two.

Speaker 3 (25:23):
It was five.

Speaker 2 (25:24):
So we said, we said, so, why would he not
get five over Why would Dylan get five over him?
He's the second pick in the second round, keV.

Speaker 3 (25:32):
My guess is because Dylan Gabriel had a bird that
he summoned that told him he was going pick ninety
four to the c of he's in that video.

Speaker 4 (25:40):
I have pretty wild is it first come, first serve?

Speaker 2 (25:44):
And no Judkins was here before Gabriel, Yeah, Gabriel. I
don't know if Gabriel's he's not been here yet yea, yeah,
CU's been here. Yeah. I wonder how they decided that.
So he track on somebody who would know, the only
person who know would be keV. Nobody else would know,
Q and Dylan wouldn't know, but Corey would know. Corey

(26:08):
would know ye Corey would know. Okay, Yeah, so I
guess that seems safe to me. Yeah, Like as a quarterback,
you're not. I wouldn't think you'd switch off of that.
Dylan Samson the double deuce.

Speaker 3 (26:23):
I love it, and I think that's safe. That's a
good running back number. Twenty two.

Speaker 2 (26:28):
I'm surprised this is. Yeah, so did nobody take twenty three.
I'm a little surprised that Emerson went from twenty three
to one.

Speaker 3 (26:39):
I am too, but one's a great number, it is,
but he's been in twenty three for a long time.
Joe Hayden it is, and it's just a cool number.
Maybe he just wanted a fresh start after last like
Denzel about last year.

Speaker 2 (26:48):
Denzel were twelve at Ohio State and then he wears
twenty one here, twenty one kind of is him. It
would be strange for him to switch out of it.
And that's kind of where I am with MJ. Like
it's almost like I'm just am surprised. I'm surprised at
twenty three.

Speaker 3 (27:02):
He obviously wanted it, but so did nobody slide into
twenty three?

Speaker 2 (27:06):
I don't think so. I don't think we saw none
of the rookies did. I don't know if we have
the full there's no there's no bet to me, Like
if is twenty two or twenty three a cooler running
back number? I think it might be twenty two.

Speaker 3 (27:17):
I think twenty two is a cooler running back number.

Speaker 2 (27:18):
I think it is.

Speaker 3 (27:19):
Twenty three is not bad. It's the first person that
comes to my Mind's Aaron Foster, who was quite productive.

Speaker 2 (27:27):
Yeah, twenty two. We had look at him, baby blue
window pane. Stop, who's stopping that? Look at him walking
in running a business.

Speaker 3 (27:35):
He is running on a Tuesday. He's meeting with big
Luminarius today.

Speaker 2 (27:38):
I got there's not a single luminary luminary so he
walks into that. He is not equal or greater than
a fact. How that guy operates.

Speaker 3 (27:47):
Fact by the way, I'll tell you what happened down
in the cafe today, but we'll go get through.

Speaker 2 (27:50):
We got it in the break or is that for
an on air DISUSSI I think we talk about on air.
Don't you think I would encourage it.

Speaker 3 (27:55):
I took a picture of it, no one of the
It was tremendous.

Speaker 2 (27:59):
So Sam's twenty two. I like it.

Speaker 3 (28:01):
I love it?

Speaker 2 (28:01):
Yeah, yeah, sure, twelve I like it. I like it.

Speaker 3 (28:06):
Obviously, probably would prefer to get to our history with
that number not so great in here, so maybe it's
a blessing to not be.

Speaker 2 (28:13):
Too Also, thing is a fifth round pick, like yep,
he could not wear two because DeAndre Carter wore two.
But I you know, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (28:25):
Lot can change between now and when we start.

Speaker 3 (28:28):
Christian McCaffrey where uh here Emmett war twenty two.

Speaker 2 (28:34):
Christian McCaffrey wore twenty three three right with the He
wore twenty two with Carolina, twenty three with the forty
nine ers. But then did he go to a single
digit with ninety five? Okay? Then he went to five,
so he was twenty two in Carolina, he went he
was twenty three initially in San Francisco, and then he
went to five, which is what he wore at Stanford.

Speaker 4 (28:53):
Yeah, because he joined mid season in that tree, so
he had to.

Speaker 2 (28:56):
Pick one number, and he had to pick one that
was available. Yes, we wore twenty three when he first
got there. He was twenty two.

Speaker 3 (29:00):
When did he switch it this last season?

Speaker 2 (29:02):
I think so? Yeah, which was one of two times
I've had the number one overall pick in a Fantasy draft.
Both times pick Christian McCaffrey, so on neither time did
he finish the season.

Speaker 3 (29:10):
On the forty nine Ers website, it says twenty three
is he still twenty three?

Speaker 2 (29:16):
I'm looking at it right now, Jmax, trying to get
it sorted out.

Speaker 3 (29:18):
I mean the website Pro Football Reference will tell you, No,
he's only won twenty two and twenty three.

Speaker 2 (29:21):
Oh so he has not worm So, by the way,
the twenty three.

Speaker 3 (29:23):
Is not bad. Like I'd rather have Judkins. I'd rather
have a twenty two to twenty three thunder and lightning.
I don't mind that at all.

Speaker 2 (29:31):
I mean, yeah, I mean twenty two. I think to
be twenty two is greater than twenty three. As a
running back, yeah, I like the double duce. I agree.

Speaker 3 (29:43):
You know what's interesting is that twenty five is a
great running back number two and Quinn John Jenkins won
two and five, and unless a vet took it, which
I haven't seen yet, yeah, twenty five was open.

Speaker 2 (29:56):
I mean when we were kids. Twenty as four is
also obviously open.

Speaker 3 (30:00):
I'm not putting that on now as a running back, no,
but I want him to come back, So I'm saying
not putting that on.

Speaker 2 (30:05):
I think, I mean, for us as a kid, the
iconic running the best running backs were the best players
even in high school football when we were kids. Wore
thirty two, thirty three, thirty four, twenty three basketball later too, though,
that was a better and standpoint.

Speaker 3 (30:19):
Do we have that graphic?

Speaker 4 (30:21):
Uh no, they just dropped it. Needham is twenty five.

Speaker 3 (30:26):
Okay, they made that graphic early.

Speaker 2 (30:30):
I got it.

Speaker 4 (30:32):
So Jerome Baker seventeen for that at Ohio State.

Speaker 2 (30:36):
I'm pretty sure. Benedict sure he wore seventeen at Ohio State.
Not sure what he wore A Benedictine were in twelve? Safe?

Speaker 3 (30:45):
I like it.

Speaker 2 (30:46):
Look so twelve is the mirror of twenty one?

Speaker 3 (30:49):
Which what who wore that? Prime prime time? Tom Brady,
who he works with and admires a great deal. YEP,
So I think it's I think it's possible. I think
it's possible.

Speaker 2 (31:05):
Yeah, I think it's in play too, you know. I
I think that number two is going to be interesting
down the line to see what happens with that. But
I do to me, I'm with you. I think twelve
seems like it's very, very possible that he could stick
there and that make that look pretty cool.

Speaker 3 (31:19):
Hold on, because we got to do this.

Speaker 2 (31:20):
There's your vet numbers. Oh it's right there. Interesting fact.
Jerome Baker was four at Benedictin four okay, yeah, but
seventeen at Ohio State fifty five in Miami. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (31:33):
DeAndre Carter to Kenny Pickett eight, Tony Brown eleven this year, okay,
Deontay Johnson sixteen, Jerome Baker is seventeen. Nick neat him
twenty five. I don't know why Flacco's not up there.
Flacco's is Flaco.

Speaker 4 (31:48):
So there's been no mention of Flacco's number yet.

Speaker 3 (31:51):
He's finished fifteen on the website. He's fifteen, and it
was like given to him. Yeah, I think it was
just assumed right away. He's Joe Flacco. That's how he rolls.

Speaker 2 (31:58):
Guess Jed's not going to get seventy one back? All right?

Speaker 3 (32:00):
The kicker is thirty eight, Oquara fifty three?

Speaker 2 (32:05):
What he is there? He is?

Speaker 3 (32:07):
I think it's Andre Smit.

Speaker 2 (32:10):
I said, I guess Jed's not gonna get seventy one back.

Speaker 3 (32:12):
Oh no, I guess not. Cornelius Lucas has seventy one.

Speaker 2 (32:15):
Yeah, there you go.

Speaker 3 (32:17):
Who's this cat over here on the right side. Seventy four.

Speaker 2 (32:20):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (32:20):
It's a great question, is Tevin Jenkins.

Speaker 2 (32:23):
It's really that's something he's really upset about.

Speaker 3 (32:27):
So it could have been a lot worse if we're
just having rated pictures up.

Speaker 2 (32:31):
Oh, baby's been a lot worse.

Speaker 3 (32:33):
Ninety tryon Shoyinka in ninety six milli columns, which is
a good number. Seventy and seventy four solid a line numbers. Yeah,
and now we'll go through those and we're gonna have
some fun with these.

Speaker 2 (32:45):
This doesn't be great, Jared Lougan, Bill Judkins will look
great in thirty one for Jamal Lewis there there'd be
some parallels there that look like thirty They didn't have
thirty one on before he did and twenty four, Yeah,
I think he did.

Speaker 4 (32:58):
Was it in the preseason and then it switched before
week one?

Speaker 3 (33:02):
It was yeah, after it it was like a late switcher.

Speaker 2 (33:08):
By the way, they only retired for us are fourteen,
thirty two, forty five, forty six, seventy six. That's the retired.

Speaker 4 (33:15):
Okay, So there is a female listener that does not
like bo Bishop and.

Speaker 2 (33:21):
I why what did I do? I spray my kids
with the cold hose whatever, that's exactly right?

Speaker 4 (33:25):
Is that anything? Your mother is right? You are working
with two, not one, very mean spirited people, and there's
a female. It causes me to not listen quite a bit.
I'm sorry to hear that. Jeez, I only listened because
you are on the air. Congratulations around all your successes.
Jimmy and Bishop are cold heartless monsters. Good Lord when

(33:46):
it comes to animals and children. They have made me
scream out loud.

Speaker 2 (33:51):
To animals and children? What did I do to animals?
You got to see how Buddy Garrity lives. He's got
three acres. He runs unencumbered.

Speaker 3 (33:58):
Yeah, what do you want Tom allowed upstairs?

Speaker 4 (34:01):
No, my dogs have almost a mile in the better.

Speaker 3 (34:04):
Than how it started. He was gonna be a loued
in the house.

Speaker 2 (34:06):
That was my original plan. Be outside. That's how our
dogs were. You get three acres, how much do you need?
Plenty of land, much more. The war has spottable, hospitable.
I will, first of.

Speaker 3 (34:19):
All thank you, you have tremendous taste, of course, he
would second.

Speaker 2 (34:23):
Of all, peacock around will that's unlike you, by the way,
give me that. That's a rarity out of you to
go to a social media post. I just a highlight.
It's very rare that you get that kind of hatred. Yeah,
I don't know why.

Speaker 3 (34:38):
They cut me off when I was about to praise them.
I was about to say, as a matter of fact,
I consider bo Bishop to be a fine human being,
a very kind, generous, lovely man. Gibbe, of course, he
can be a thief of my joy. There's no denying it.
I think everybody knows it. It can be sad at times,

(34:58):
it can be frustrating. I've screamed out loud as a
result of what he's done.

Speaker 2 (35:03):
Sure you have.

Speaker 3 (35:03):
It's baffled the Hoff, a man who is as cerebral
as they come. It has baffled him. But Gibbe is
at his core a lovable, loving, big, giant, soft teddy bear.

Speaker 2 (35:15):
He really is.

Speaker 3 (35:15):
He really is.

Speaker 2 (35:16):
So you have one for three, not bad Wade bogs.
One for three len't get you in the Hall of fame.

Speaker 3 (35:23):
So you assessed me.

Speaker 2 (35:25):
Across country or something. All the nice things you said
about zerr accurate. You assessed me spot on them, not
as spot on, but we're getting there, don't Yeah.

Speaker 3 (35:35):
So but again, thank you.

Speaker 2 (35:37):
By the way, should to wear Number twelve, like mentor Brady,
is the number one story on ESPN right now. It's
their top story, number one. That's where you stand all right.

Speaker 4 (35:48):
By the way, Brownsbackers North Jersey, some of us only
listen because Bo and Gibbeer are so heartless.

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Wow, I'm unbelieved. It's loving father raising three children.

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To me that you're doing all right in terms of
how we're king.

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We're doing all right.

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It's stunning to me that you're being lumped in with this.

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Speaker 3 (37:25):
All right, two things. One I'll get to the or
two I'll get to the cafe a second. But one,
so you know I like to work out at King's Gym.

Speaker 2 (37:31):
I didn't know.

Speaker 3 (37:32):
It is my favorite place. It's the mecca.

Speaker 2 (37:34):
I love it.

Speaker 3 (37:35):
It is Kings Oh man, it's so good, Jim, so good.
It's just everybody's in there to work out. It's all
so many regulars.

Speaker 2 (37:43):
But everybody. Cherry the King named after him.

Speaker 3 (37:46):
No, it is not after ed King.

Speaker 2 (37:50):
Jerry the King has been in the studio.

Speaker 3 (37:52):
Yes, Jerry King Lawler most certainly has. The King brothers
actually are the ones. So it's King's Jim yep. And
it is an unbelievable gym.

Speaker 2 (38:04):
I love it.

Speaker 3 (38:05):
And they sell really cool gear. They have very cool
like logos and stuff. And so I bought what I
would describe as hanging on the wall. It looked like
like it was a muscle tank in the sense that
it comes through the back. So if like you're doing
you know, yeats or whatever, they pops the lout, but
like a tank top. Okay, so I'm all juiced for it.

(38:26):
I always like to have good, good, uh good stuff
to work out in, especially if it's like an arms day.

Speaker 4 (38:31):
You know, you want to be able to plugs himself
a tank top.

Speaker 3 (38:38):
And you wonder why she says what she says?

Speaker 2 (38:40):
Am I wrong? I didn't say I never saw do
you not?

Speaker 4 (38:45):
Do you not love tank tops in the gym or
at the beach? What about your jersey? Pol are considered
tank tops?

Speaker 3 (38:53):
I know, I think I think I've figured down. They
probably also don't fit than you were when you the
ones that fit. My favorite I have I still like
to wear. There are only two jerseys I wear, but
it's again only Beecher Pool only exclusively. Uh is my
dream team? I have a dream team Mullen White and
a dream team Barkley White Mullen Wars. I think it's

(39:18):
like a fourteen somebody's fourteen, one of them.

Speaker 2 (39:21):
Fourteen on the dream Magic fifteen Jordan War nine, Bird
War seven, Ewing War six ten, Stockton twelve could have
been ten for I think it's ten.

Speaker 3 (39:34):
So I have those two and then I have a
Yugoslav national team Petrovic. Those are only three jerseys that wear.

Speaker 2 (39:40):
Wow, that's pretty good. One's pretty good. Yeah. Was he Croatian?

Speaker 3 (39:46):
Yeah he was. Yeah, that's the whole thing.

Speaker 2 (39:48):
I couldn't remember on the on the once.

Speaker 3 (39:51):
Broad Serbian Drazen was Croatian.

Speaker 2 (39:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (39:55):
So anyway, so I buy this tank top.

Speaker 2 (39:59):
And I go to put it on.

Speaker 3 (40:00):
I was gonna wear it, you know, underneath my my
hoodie today calves, let's go Game two, big, bounce back huge.
And I put this thing on and I can't wear
it in public. And now I feel like i've what.

Speaker 2 (40:18):
It's like skin tight.

Speaker 3 (40:19):
It's like a muscle tank that comes down.

Speaker 2 (40:21):
It's like down to here, oh gosh, like like gold gym.
Then the speech style not at all what I thought
I was getting.

Speaker 3 (40:31):
I walk those days, I walk up, I put it
on and walk up to miscate.

Speaker 2 (40:38):
What do you think of this?

Speaker 3 (40:40):
She just starts laughing. I was like, I can't wear
this in public, like you can wear it to the gym.
I'm like, no, I can't. I absolutely cannot wear this.
So I have this awesome garment now.

Speaker 2 (40:49):
That you wearing around the house.

Speaker 3 (40:50):
I think to wear this the way that it is
truly cut you need to be like not Jake Cutler,
not smoking j Cutler, but like Jake Cutler for those
who know or like Arnold. I feel like, yeah, Hulk Hogan.

Speaker 2 (41:05):
Yeah massive, then speak Yeah, you need to be like
a three.

Speaker 3 (41:08):
Twenty roided up tanned monster, which is the list. It
looked like a tank top when I bought.

Speaker 2 (41:15):
It, looked like a normal tank top, and then you
were like, oh not.

Speaker 3 (41:21):
So that was one thing which I thought was hysterical
that happened to me. Today I'm bummed out though I
really like it. And now I'm gonna have to see
if they'll let me exchange it for.

Speaker 2 (41:29):
Yeah, the regular trade out. I help them trade out.

Speaker 3 (41:31):
I'll be like, I have not worn it as you
as I couldn't.

Speaker 2 (41:34):
And also you have the tags still on, so you're
safe on that side of things.

Speaker 3 (41:39):
Ed and Frank, I feel like the King Brothers I
should have been like not for you.

Speaker 2 (41:43):
Yeah, and you did a nice job of getting their
name out there, so I think, yeah, I feel like
you're gonna be fine.

Speaker 3 (41:47):
I hope I could. You know, I could give it
to I can. I'll give it to my boy, Josh Bishop.

Speaker 2 (41:52):
What I'll do.

Speaker 3 (41:53):
I'll give him he can wear it. Half could half
half now, I mean I think he could.

Speaker 2 (41:59):
Yeah, but I'm so lean now, like you need to
be like, oh, you got to be really very like
in the Schwarzenegger doc when he talks about how Jackie
was to just go with his buddies and lift weights. Yeah,
like the Gold's gym. You can't be unbelievable. Oh dude,
I was there amazing. Remember I told you guys, I

(42:19):
was there because I stayed down there and I was
there in that hotel where they were all out of
I was like, I am a stranger in a strange life.

Speaker 3 (42:25):
You've watched the documentary, right, un which is all his
bodybuilding is just unreal.

Speaker 2 (42:31):
So yeah, the end third hour I kind of lost it.
But the first two hours are unbelievable. And that part
where he's like just Tomfoolery at Golds Gym, just being
best buddies and bouncing off each other and high fiving,
and it's like an action movie in real life. Yeah. Yeah, no,
it's great.

Speaker 3 (42:49):
So anyway, yeah, I don't think that like a person
who is naturally whatever they are, is wearing that tank top.

Speaker 2 (42:58):
Yeah, that's the type.

Speaker 3 (42:59):
I think you need to be enhanced. So that was
what number two down in the cafe today. Okay, I
had brown therapy. I can't wait to see this putting
on his tank.

Speaker 2 (43:12):
To Yeah, it's that. That is exactly what it is.
BT's already on it.

Speaker 3 (43:17):
That's exactly what it is.

Speaker 2 (43:18):
This is exactly that's it, exactly what. Yeah, you can't
do that, No, that were you? No, it even still,
I mean you have even still children. You can't walk
around like that.

Speaker 3 (43:29):
Yeah, I'm like, is this thing even gonna cover you
know what needs to be? Yeah, that's I mean, that's
exactly what it looks like. So I guess these are
a common thing, and I just bought it like a buffoon.
I just didn't realize it was that low in the front,
that was a tank top.

Speaker 2 (43:45):
Wrong the other thing.

Speaker 3 (43:46):
So today down in the cafe, you.

Speaker 4 (43:48):
Should look at your phone. Bo Bishop Oh god, no, no, no, no,
the story that he's about to tell.

Speaker 3 (43:55):
Oh yeah yeah yeah, so down we had a smoked
pig for lunch today along with potstickers. The smoke pig
was as good of pig as I've ever seen. But
the pig was out there that looks to me like
it was d needed and was the skin relayed to
I don't even know, and it was out there on display.

Speaker 2 (44:17):
And to say that, yeah, I loved it.

Speaker 4 (44:29):
It would have been great to have a go pro
on it and to get the reaction of others in
this building.

Speaker 2 (44:36):
Yeah, I have questions. So it was, and I think
I'll save those for I will just say this traumendous.
It was so good.

Speaker 3 (44:45):
They had a homemade honey hot honey barbecue sauce. It
was delicious, had potstickers with it.

Speaker 2 (44:50):
It was just a real delight. It was an absolute Yeah,
that's gonna you're gonna lose some points on the Lady
who Likes Animals power ranking.

Speaker 3 (45:05):
So this is listen. I wasn't.

Speaker 2 (45:07):
I didn't.

Speaker 3 (45:09):
I wasn't a minute. I was not responsible for the
demise of this pig. I do think it's important to
honor it by consuming it. And as I told some
of my favorites, Paula and Holly, I said, just every
time you see me, know that that pig is a
part of me.

Speaker 2 (45:25):
Now, yeah, it's good.

Speaker 3 (45:27):
It's good carrying it forward.

Speaker 2 (45:28):
You're carrying it on, yeah for a little while. Yeah,
that's something I wasn't anticipating.

Speaker 3 (45:36):
That, No, I think I don't think many were be shocking. Yeah,
it's kind of like and I said, I likened it
to the scene in Christmas Story when they have to
go and they get the duck. They get a peaking duck. Yeah,
and he's like, but it's smiling at me.

Speaker 2 (45:55):
That's right, that's right.

Speaker 3 (45:57):
Boom, little cleaver shot takes care of that.

Speaker 2 (45:59):
That's enother that.

Speaker 3 (46:00):
So I just think that's not something you come across
every day.

Speaker 2 (46:04):
You don't know, that's other than a tailgate, a tailgate experience.
You'll see that.

Speaker 3 (46:09):
I've never seen that at a tailgate.

Speaker 2 (46:11):
Well, like I feel, yeah, yeah, you'll see that when
they're all canvassed out. Yeah, I've seen that quite a bit.

Speaker 3 (46:19):
That's me turning the spit by I saw I saw.
I love animals.

Speaker 2 (46:25):
We all do around the league. Matthew Stafford final terms
eighty four million, two years, forty four million this year,
all of that guaranteed if he's on the Rams roster
next year. At the start of free agency he'll lock
in another forty. I think he'll play the next two
years with the LA Rams and then retire. I think
so too, and then that's a wrap. They're pretty good.

(46:47):
You were I think maybe you were out we did
it or one of you guys. I can't remember. I
did a power ranking that had the Rams from USA
today that the Rams second in the league had Philly won.
RAM two might have been one I did last might
have been what I did in the morning. Yeah, the
Rams number two in the league. I think it was, yeah,

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part of.

Speaker 4 (47:08):
Its NFL network, because I don't think CBS.

Speaker 2 (47:11):
I think it was USA Today, now that I think
about it, I think it was one of those NFL
writers at US.

Speaker 4 (47:16):
Yes, it just came out this morning at two thirty.
But CBS had.

Speaker 2 (47:22):
They had the Ravens number one. Look, you got to
make people talk this time of year, so I understand it.
But I that Rams team is they flipped it quick? Yeah,
Oh yeah, DeVante Adams in there with Puka Nakua and
oh yeah, all of that. They hit on both of
their defensive picks last year in the first and second round.
One was Rookie of the Year. Both those Florida State
guys bawled out, So yeah, they hit on them big

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NFL news last night, the Ravens releasing kicker Justin Tucker,
eight time All Pro, seven time Pro bowler, NFL's twenty tens,
all decade team longest field goal in NFL history, career
high field goal percentage in NFL history, that is the
record at eighty nine point one. Obviously, there are off
field allegations of plenty here as well. He wasn't particularly

(48:09):
good last year on the field, terrible by his standards
or really by any I guess you'll never know how
much the off field stuff played into all of this,
and there certainly didn't help.

Speaker 3 (48:19):
They released a statement that could not have been more
glowing in praise of him, making no mention of that,
just saying that, you know, he's had a great career here, Yeah,
the best to ever do it, and this was a
very difficult football decision from the top, top top of
the organization. Do you believe that raised eyebrows of a
lot of people the way?

Speaker 2 (48:36):
Yeah, I don't believe that that it was just a
football decision. I just don't buy that. I understand why
they would say that.

Speaker 3 (48:40):
I mean, I could see it he really struggle. I
mean they had to seriously think about replacing him in
the season.

Speaker 2 (48:45):
Last year they drafted a kicker, Like, yeah, that's true. Yeah,
they drafted a kicker. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (48:52):
Now the notion that, here's why I don't think it's
just a football decision. There's no reason to have to
cut him. Now, if you did draft kicker, you have
ninety people. You usually have two kickers in camp anyway,
wouldn't you want to see, hey, is Justin Tucker back
to being the greatest kicker of all time pure football?
Or if this rookie that we drafted I want to
say in the sixth round is legit to turn the

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reins over to They're doing this without any of that.
So that tells me it's not just a football decision
because there was no reasons to make there's no time
crunch to make it, right now, agree with that.

Speaker 2 (49:26):
I agree with you on that. Do you think he
kicks next year in the league? Yes?

Speaker 3 (49:31):
No, no, yes, I agree with that. Do I think
kick six in your league?

Speaker 4 (49:38):
I think someone takes a flyer on him.

Speaker 3 (49:41):
A lot around There's a lot around it.

Speaker 2 (49:43):
It's that old thing that that we deal with all
the time in sports, and the allegations against him are
very serious. Innocent until proven guilty, for sure. But it's
that old thing about pain in the neck and how
good you are and the good you are part versus allegations,

(50:05):
i e. Pain in the neck to deal with it
went the other way, yep. So when that happens, then
it's very difficult to come back from. And it happens
all the time, and we various for various things off
the field, various behavioral issues. There comes a point where
the production just is not worth just isn't worth it.
So I'm with you. I don't think he is. I

(50:28):
don't think he is in the league next year. Do
we have Jay Morrison coming up next? If you've been cut.

Speaker 4 (50:32):
Still availability, probably will miss him today.

Speaker 3 (50:35):
If he had been cut for off the field stuff
coming off of another ninety three percent year. Yes, he
plays in the league.

Speaker 2 (50:41):
Agreed. I agree with you on that, all right? So
coming up next, several teams are getting new helmets this season.
Are we among them? We will get to that in
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Speaker 1 (51:12):
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Speaker 2 (51:45):
A Right Second Hour here on a Tuesday edition. This
is my buddy Andrew lind who does this. He's all
over the uniform side of things. He's runs the Ohio
State Uniform Database. It feels like here or the Union
Watch guys like if something is going to break in
that front, they're the ones that are going to have it.
So anytime he has something, I pay very close attention.

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He published this on sports logos dot net. The Browns, Steelers, Chargers, Commies,
and Saints reportedly in July will unveil new helmets. The
article says it's unclear if the Browns, Commander, Saints will
introduce a new shell color or simply tweak their existing
alternate design, but one thing for certain is that the

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Charges and Steelers will finally add a second shell to
their respective closets, leaving the Bills, Chiefs, Raiders, Rams, Dolphins
and Niners as the only team without a second shell.
We of course have them already because we have, uh
didn't the four Winers have a black helmet that they wore.
They wore the gold.

Speaker 3 (52:44):
They never they never wore them as they should have.
They should have warn a black helmet with just the
red foil in there, as a Wanner did with their black. Yeah,
have the black platforms. Yeah, they never did that. I
was wore the gold helmet the Raiders.

Speaker 2 (52:56):
I've seen all sorts of mock ups for a black
helmet from them, but they've no worn it. No, they
could wear a white helmet too, they could. I think
the black would be pretty money for them.

Speaker 3 (53:06):
Saints could. Saints do have The Saints have already.

Speaker 2 (53:09):
These are the ones who haven't. Though. Dolphins red, dolphins white.
I can't imagine that he's orange. I don't know what
you would do there. The Bills should have multiple shells.
They have a second they have multiple shells like in
their history.

Speaker 3 (53:21):
Yeah, they have the Jim Kelly red.

Speaker 2 (53:23):
Yeah they do. Do they have a blue shell the
blue at some point too? Yeah? Yeah, Kansas City, I
think you'd just go white. Would be the shell of that,
and it would look pretty clean.

Speaker 3 (53:31):
Don't go ye.

Speaker 2 (53:33):
Rams are multi colored anyway. The horns are so prominent,
you could go blue and white.

Speaker 3 (53:37):
They could go white with blue, white with blue horns.

Speaker 2 (53:40):
Yes, exactly. That's like the Deacon Jones era, right.

Speaker 3 (53:43):
Exactly, So they have that in their history. The Vikings
have two shells. They were the white.

Speaker 2 (53:47):
They wore the white out. Remember they screwed that up.

Speaker 3 (53:49):
What they totally screwed up?

Speaker 2 (53:50):
What did they not do?

Speaker 3 (53:52):
They didn't have What were.

Speaker 2 (53:53):
We beefing about with them? Didn't we think that the
the horns horn should have been purple? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (54:00):
Is that what it was?

Speaker 2 (54:00):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (54:01):
Because everything else? Remember, I mean our former assistant GM
debuted the white pullover at the comedy.

Speaker 2 (54:08):
I do remember that. We were Yeah, it was we
were in love. It's white.

Speaker 3 (54:13):
I'm pretty sure they have a They had a gray
face mask with it, which we were not. It should
have been a white face mask, and it should have
been a purple horn. Purple horn or a purple face
mask doesn't look bad either because the horn is white
with just a purple outline on it.

Speaker 2 (54:26):
Oh, we're saying the whole horn should have been purple.

Speaker 3 (54:28):
Or the whole that's fine, or it just should have
been a purple face mass and to pop the yeah
pop the gray face mass doesn't make any sense Saints.

Speaker 2 (54:38):
I thought they already had a black helmet that they
did been wearing. They do, so they could they're either
going to introduce a new shell color or tweak and
existing alternate design, so they're in the same.

Speaker 3 (54:48):
Saints wore the black and it had the carbon fiber.

Speaker 2 (54:50):
Yeah, stripe, there you go. Yes, they've had that. I've
heard that the Kami's are just gonna have their black one.
I think what Andrew reports here is they're going to
take their black one and just make it look like
the other ones. So just put the W on it
with the stripe. I hope they go back to their
old look. Just do the exact old look and just
put a W there. That's what I would do. And

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then the Steelers, this would probably mean that they're going
to wear that yellow one, right because they've worn that
in the past in the past, so.

Speaker 3 (55:21):
That would be the one I think they I think,
And the Saints could have a cool white helmet. I
think the Steelers could as well.

Speaker 2 (55:26):
Yeah, I mean as we saw with ours, I mean white,
it's pretty good, pretty good.

Speaker 3 (55:30):
Steelers have had the yellow they wore back in the
Roethlisberger hidings Ward days, which is just the yellow with
one black stripe right down the middle.

Speaker 2 (55:37):
I mean, we only have one more color to do.
If it's a third shell, it's see, there's only one
more to do. We've done white, we've done orange. So
if we're tweaking the white one, Steelers.

Speaker 3 (55:46):
Should do a white one that would look really good.
Like I think this one right here would look really cool.
That one over like the black and yellow jersey.

Speaker 2 (55:57):
Yeah, that's cool.

Speaker 3 (55:58):
And this one's not bad either, but that one really
good black.

Speaker 2 (56:01):
If you put that black face mask on that one,
it would look cool, yes, because then you can still
have the steel yeah logo thing.

Speaker 4 (56:07):
And what the forty nine ers if they were they
don't have they they don't have another helmet, Like what
what would you like to see the black?

Speaker 3 (56:17):
I want to see black with like the SF just
in there, just like foiled out would be awesome.

Speaker 2 (56:27):
So the forty nine ers actually have in their history
a red helmet they have, Yeah, they've got a red
helmet in their history with a white stripe and a
gold face mask. Here you go. They worn't with the
drop shadows.

Speaker 3 (56:44):
Wow, that's way before my time.

Speaker 2 (56:47):
Yeah, nineteen fifty five, yeah, yeah, I would say, yeah,
So they have one in their history that they could wear.
They also have in their history a white uniform that
they could wear that the forty nine ers could wear
as well, so they could you could do that with
the forty nine ers. I don't like black with the

(57:07):
forty Niners because it's not in their uniforms. Yep. So
I think if you did white that would look pretty clean,
and you had like a full white out, that would
be cool. But also this, Yeah, they have a red
hat in their history, the Niners do.

Speaker 3 (57:23):
How about it?

Speaker 2 (57:25):
I think? For so, what do you guys know anything
about what we're doing? If? On the third is it
a third shell or is it a do we believe
it is a I think an existing alternate design reimagine.

Speaker 3 (57:38):
I think it will be a third shell?

Speaker 2 (57:40):
Okay, well yeah sometime this summer sometime. Yeah, you'll have
to decide what. Pretty sure we got some scores on
that from I think we did. Yeah, I think he
was from what he was in here. Yeah. Yeah, So
then the question is what do you wear it with
to make it pop? Yeah? And if it is a

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third shell, then I would say my vote would be
all white underneath it.

Speaker 3 (58:08):
Yep, that my vote, Yes, I think I think.

Speaker 2 (58:13):
It'd be a lot. Yeah, but I think if you
go all white, then I think you got a chance
on it.

Speaker 3 (58:20):
I think you're right.

Speaker 2 (58:21):
It is cool that we're getting I mean, this is
were the forty nine ers ever silver? The nineteen fifty
nine forty nine ers looked like the Buckeyes nineteen fifty
with silver instead of gold.

Speaker 3 (58:39):
Are there any pictures of that?

Speaker 2 (58:42):
I don't know. That's uniform database thing. And then this
thing popped up too with the Niners, which is forty
nine ers uniform history. Yep, yeah, and they have a
white one. Yeah. From fifty nine to sixty three they

(59:03):
wore a silver hat. Huh. From fifty nine to sixty three,
the forty nine ers wore silver pants and helmets. Isn't
that something?

Speaker 4 (59:21):
Oh gosh, I'd sign up for that.

Speaker 2 (59:27):
It's wild.

Speaker 3 (59:31):
Interesting. That is wild never I've never there's it's weird
that there isn't a picture of it anywhere that we
never have seen that.

Speaker 2 (59:42):
Well, and everything with them is from the you know,
all of their imagery. Everything is oh here, oh here
we go. Boy, this looks like it we look cl
like Buckeyes. Any ray?

Speaker 3 (59:52):
Is this a picture? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (59:54):
Yeah, yeah, huh Yeah, I mean yeah.

Speaker 3 (59:58):
And then the red helmet is nuts. I mean the
gold is so good.

Speaker 2 (01:00:03):
Yeah, I mean that that looks like Ohio State is
what that looks like?

Speaker 3 (01:00:06):
This one or if another one a white one?

Speaker 2 (01:00:08):
Yeah, wild never knew that. No, ever, that's not a throwback.

Speaker 3 (01:00:16):
I would like I'd like them to get a black helmet.

Speaker 2 (01:00:18):
Somebody did a mock up of like Debo in a
red one.

Speaker 3 (01:00:24):
Red's okay.

Speaker 2 (01:00:25):
I just think their helmet's perfect. Just leave it.

Speaker 3 (01:00:28):
It is perfect. Before Night that's black is the only
one that makes any sense with that black uniform. Yeah,
I think that nothing. You don't need to do anything.

Speaker 2 (01:00:36):
Yeah, I love i I yeah, very very solid silver
like the Raiders. It is. Yeah, a lot of this.
I mean it's very tricky when you're trying to when
you're trying to do this, because it's so difficult to
do better than the original. In many instances, I would
bet anything that the Chargers go with a Navy because

(01:00:58):
I think the Spanish the only reason the Spanish family
acquiesced and went Powder Blues because they were trying to
do something depositive momentum. Yeah for the fan base, but
they love the Navy. So I wouldn't bet, I'd bet
which everybody else is like, it's.

Speaker 3 (01:01:09):
Fine as a one off those it is.

Speaker 2 (01:01:12):
It's not the Baby Blues at all. So my hunches, though,
their one off will be will be the Navy. Yeah,
so it'll be sometime this summer. You'll get the details
on that side of things. We've got our game to play.
We've also had a little bit of higher or lower
coming your way. We'll get to all of that coming up.

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Time for the number game. I'm ready, all right? Is
Gibby going to administer you? Gibbet? You want it?

Speaker 3 (01:02:19):
You you want administer Gibbe. And so it's surest Brown
that pops into your mind when you see the number,
And let's do that. We'll do the rookies first, and
then we'll do the veterans next. First Brown, and then
your favorite player that you can think of that.

Speaker 2 (01:02:32):
Wore that number, all right, and they all have to
be Brown's no or any player who wore that number.

Speaker 3 (01:02:38):
So the first is the first Brown or favorite Brown
that wore that number, okay, and then the second is
you're just your favorite player that wore that number ever, okay, okay,
all right, okay, all right, gibbe, and you can play.

Speaker 2 (01:02:51):
On background, trying to get a little bit nice. I
like that, nice, nice little.

Speaker 3 (01:02:57):
I'm meant to fix it, though, because somebody may have
left to marker in there that's not allowing it to
play the full song.

Speaker 2 (01:03:03):
Said said he. I'll get it. I'll get it though, alright.

Speaker 4 (01:03:07):
Buddy Mason Graham comes in at number ninety four, pick
number five, number one in your hearts, number four ninety
four in your programs, although he does want number fifty
five from Ethan post it at some point, anybody.

Speaker 2 (01:03:23):
Favorite Brown to wear ninety four. I don't have a
brown favorite that wore number ninety five. I just think
of Dalvin. Dalvin was just here in ninety four. Good dude, Yeah,
very good dude, very good player. I'm sure to think historically,
was there any I'm looking that up?

Speaker 4 (01:03:48):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (01:03:51):
Oh. Five Star Porter Gustin, Aaron Dear, Aaron, Dear to
our heart. Here on the program, Here we go, all
Browns to ever wear number ninety four. Gerard Warren, there
was another one, Warren, Jamie Meaner, Carl nasib didn't Carl
switch to ninety seven at one point?

Speaker 3 (01:04:13):
You wore at one. I'm just this is the list
and profoball reference if anybody's ever worn this number? Derek Alexander, Okay,
I think the out of Florida state? Do I think
the answer has gotta be than it's Dalvin? Think's Dalvin Thomlinson,
all right, your favorite ninety four ever?

Speaker 2 (01:04:29):
And then the person I associate with it is Charles
Haley that I wrote, Charles Haley, that's one. When I
think of ninety four, that's what I think.

Speaker 3 (01:04:35):
Of Marcus Lawrence, not to Marcus Lawrence, de Marcus Ware.

Speaker 2 (01:04:39):
Yeah it was a ninety four, right, Yeah, I think
that's right. Yeah, but I think I think he was
it felt like he played in every Super Bowl when
I was a kid. Yeah, Okay, onwhere do we go to?

Speaker 4 (01:04:51):
Number forty nine and Carson Schwssinger out of uc LA,
the Browns top pick in round number two. There's one
big name that comes to mind with number forty nine
for the brown Someone.

Speaker 2 (01:05:06):
Did wear it cold westnger Old.

Speaker 4 (01:05:11):
That was my favorite name. Carson's Westinger.

Speaker 3 (01:05:14):
So Bobby Mitchell, Hall of Famer, Bobby Mitchell, Yeah, kind.

Speaker 2 (01:05:23):
Of a big deal.

Speaker 3 (01:05:24):
And then Clinton Burrell from the late seventies to eighty four,
it was a number forty nine.

Speaker 2 (01:05:32):
Bobby Mitchell, one of the great Bobby Mitchell's probably the
best NFL player to ever wear forty nine. I believe
that's it. I think he's that one. I told you
I cannot think of a single there were three numbers
that if NBC would have got as an eleven year old,
I had nothing for forty six, forty eight, forty nine.

Speaker 3 (01:05:51):
So I think I'm right on this one. Do you
have a forty nine Tony Richardson forty nine, three time
pro bowler, Hall of Fame, all two thousands team, the
full back for the Chiefs.

Speaker 2 (01:06:00):
Oh sure, Yeah, Okay, some of the other best as
I had, and you know what I knew about.

Speaker 3 (01:06:06):
I remember him because that was our era. But also
he is always in I didn't play this year obviously,
but he was always in Madden as like a legend.

Speaker 2 (01:06:16):
Okay, Tony Richardson.

Speaker 4 (01:06:20):
Other athletes that have worn the number forty nine include
Ron Gidrey Gid, Tim Wakefield, the Smith Tremaine Edmunds wore
number forty nine, Felipe al.

Speaker 3 (01:06:35):
Oh Man, Moyses.

Speaker 2 (01:06:37):
There you go, the Here are the list. Here's the
entire list of players to wear forty nine who are
in the Pro Football Hall of Fame, Bobby Mitchell and
Walt Keisling. There it is. Here's the entire list of
people to wear forty six. Lou Groza forty eight, A
mel Richter, mel Richter. That's it.

Speaker 3 (01:06:56):
They named the scale after.

Speaker 2 (01:06:57):
In fact, I mean fifty nine is in that category
of like just one guy in the Hall of Fame
is worn fifty nine. It's wild, all right.

Speaker 3 (01:07:09):
This is a fun one.

Speaker 4 (01:07:11):
Number ten, number ten, Quinn Shun Judkins, the Ohio State University,
now the Cleveland Browns.

Speaker 3 (01:07:22):
All right, here are some nominations for you. Sammy Winter Coats,
Oh boy, Armonty Edwards, Robert Griffin the third in the
year twenty sixteen, something like that. Yeah, Anthony Schwartz, let's

(01:07:42):
not do that one.

Speaker 4 (01:07:44):
P J.

Speaker 2 (01:07:45):
Walker fumbled way.

Speaker 3 (01:07:47):
Rout Brady Quinn. And then here's I think the answer,
machine gun Kelly Holcomb.

Speaker 2 (01:07:54):
I did love Kelly Holcomb, that divided machine gun, colic
machine gun. Kelly was trying to, as the kids say,
riz up Sydney Sweeney over the weekend. So maybe he
needs to be careful.

Speaker 3 (01:08:04):
Guys, he's got a lot going on, isn't he spoken for?

Speaker 2 (01:08:06):
I don't know, Megan fact that guy's live in his
best life, however he wants to live it, not necessarily
the best example, it seemed like it. So when I
think of ten, so that this was number I wore
in high school. The reason that what I think of ten, though,
is the answer you. I still have him. I have
both the home anaways. The best soccer players usually wear ten,

(01:08:30):
So I think of Messi, Ronaldo or Messy, uh not Ronaldo,
the pale war ten pale, thank you all. I could
think it was Brazilian Ronaldo for some reason, not pale,
pale and ten. Usually the best soccer players wear ten,
which is why Kobe war ten in the Olympics. Luka
Modric There you go, Luke. Yeah, see best player. They
usually wear ten. There's not a lot of the NFL

(01:08:53):
players to wear ten in the Hall of Fame. Fran
Tarktin is the best known. John McNally, Duke Slater, Jon
Stennery with Montana State, bobcat Elijah and Kurt Warner wore
it in New York. That doesn't count. Yeah he was thirteen. Yeah, right, Elijah.

Speaker 3 (01:09:10):
That's why I think of yeah, Eli Manning, Tyreek Hill
has a chance to be.

Speaker 2 (01:09:15):
It's more popular now because of the receivers. Conceivers can
wear it.

Speaker 3 (01:09:20):
Was it was it Santonio Holmes attend.

Speaker 2 (01:09:22):
I believe he was. Yeah, I think that's correct.

Speaker 3 (01:09:25):
Want to catch unbelievable catch?

Speaker 2 (01:09:27):
Yeah. Do you hear Gronk talking about is or it was?
It wasn't Gronk. It was Terrell Suggs saying Roethlisberger most
underrated player in NFL history, and he made the case
two Super Bowls. He's not brought up in the same
categories like Rogers or any of that stuff, and he's
got two Super Bowl wins. He never was an All
Pro because it was you know, Manning and Brady during

(01:09:48):
that whole time, but.

Speaker 3 (01:09:49):
There was a while where it was just Manning, Brady, Roethlisberger.
That was it, right, that representative.

Speaker 2 (01:09:57):
The one outlier was our guys Flacco. Yeah, there's like
an eighteen year period it was one of those three
guys except one Flacco.

Speaker 3 (01:10:03):
Yeah, all right, that's ten.

Speaker 2 (01:10:05):
Ten break. That's a cool number. Ten's a cool number,
all right. Eighty eight I'm gonna get used to it.
In a running back.

Speaker 4 (01:10:11):
Harold fannin Junia. I mean the Bowling Greens.

Speaker 2 (01:10:15):
Only one thing I think of when I see eighty eight.

Speaker 3 (01:10:18):
What Reggie Langhorn.

Speaker 2 (01:10:20):
Well, that's we browns oh Brown first Langhorn. Baby, Yeah,
it's got to be Reggie.

Speaker 3 (01:10:26):
Yeah, that's the one, Reggie Langhorne.

Speaker 2 (01:10:28):
I think eighty eight's really cool.

Speaker 3 (01:10:29):
Yeah, I had Langhorn. E. J. Bibbs retirement.

Speaker 2 (01:10:35):
I mean, this list of eighty eight's in the Hall
of Fame is cool. Tony Gonzalez, Marvin Harrison, Michael Irvin,
John Mackie, Alan Page, uh Lynn Swan, Isaac Bruce, Chris Carter,
Duke Slater. That's a good list. Carter Ward. Eighty though,
is what I know him as his eighties.

Speaker 3 (01:10:53):
Yeah, I was looking for a little Freddy Solomon.

Speaker 2 (01:10:57):
Freddie Solomon had that card.

Speaker 3 (01:10:59):
Freddy's Solomon. Did you know Isaac Bruce wore eighty eight
with the Niners for two years.

Speaker 2 (01:11:05):
I just mentioned him in the Hall of Fame, but
I thought he was eighty He was ever wearing eighty eight.

Speaker 3 (01:11:10):
He only wore eighty eight with the Niners. Yeah, I
don't remember that at all.

Speaker 2 (01:11:14):
I like the double eights a lot.

Speaker 3 (01:11:16):
It's a great number. Yeah, Tory Holt was eighty eight
for with the Rams for three years. Says from ninety
nine to two thousand and one.

Speaker 2 (01:11:25):
He was eighty eight and then he switched to eighty
one one. Yeah, and Isaac Bruce was always eighty. I
just never wore eighty eight with with the I don't remember.
It's funny, I don't remember. Tory Holt is not in
the Hall of Fame and Isaac Bruce is correct, which
makes zero interesting. And I don't know if that's a

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video game component, but I always thought him that it was.
I always thought Holt was better than Bruce, but was
but maybe he wasn't, So in my mind's I felt
like he.

Speaker 3 (01:11:54):
Was eighty eight has actually, I wouldn't say a rich
but a long, tight end history here with the Browns.
In fifteen it was Bibbs. In eighteen, it was Darren Fells.
In nineteen it was Demetrius Harris. From twenty to twenty
three it was Harris and Bryant, and then in twenty
four it was Jordan Akins. So hopefully fan can bust

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through there all right.

Speaker 4 (01:12:18):
On to number five, number Dylan Gabriel, the Browns new
quarterback out of Oregon.

Speaker 3 (01:12:24):
Number five in Brown's history.

Speaker 2 (01:12:28):
Oh my goodness, I know my answer. What do you got?
Jamis was pure joy last year. I enjoyed him.

Speaker 4 (01:12:34):
Anthony Walker jun Oh yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:12:36):
Jamisi switched.

Speaker 3 (01:12:38):
You had Scott Player with the single bar face mask
and the Fu Manchu Spencer landing. Fine guy as well.
But I'm gonna go with twenty two thousand and three
Brett Conway. Brett Conway, who I've become friends with through
Baby Doll at Olympia Fields when I've played there, I've

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always played with Breck Conway's great dude. That's amazing, an
elite human, so fun. So Brett Conway gets my answer
is my favorite Brown to wear?

Speaker 2 (01:13:08):
Five?

Speaker 3 (01:13:08):
Jamis close second. Oh Spencer Land and Grake Eye Case
Keenum also wore it. Anthony Walker wore it as well
when they were able to switch those single digits.

Speaker 2 (01:13:16):
Does not have a rich NFL Hall of Fame history.
Five doesn't Morten Anderson, Paul Horning, and George McAfee. That's
the list. Paul Horning, I think is probably he's the
one I think of when I think of five from
an NFL perspective, I think of Horning with the Packers.
That's what I think of.

Speaker 3 (01:13:34):
He scored one hundred and seventy six points in nineteen
sixty in a twelve game season which stood for forty
six years until the Damian Times and broke it in
two thousand and six and a sixteen game season.

Speaker 2 (01:13:45):
You know, a lot of trips to the paint, brother.
You know, Paul Horning is the only college football player
to win the Heisman on a losing team. Notre Dame
had a losing record the year Paul Horning won it.
Do you know who didn't win it the year Paul
Horning won it?

Speaker 3 (01:14:01):
Who? Jim Brown?

Speaker 2 (01:14:04):
Wow?

Speaker 3 (01:14:07):
Jim Jim Brown Brown.

Speaker 2 (01:14:10):
So there's probably a miss feels like by the Heisman.
Trump Trophy. Trust Horny got in the hall, so I
guess it's good. But like his accolades are pretty yeah,
Jim Brown is Yeah, that's a that's a relatively, that's
a big one.

Speaker 4 (01:14:24):
At running back out of the University of Tennessee. Dylan
Samson the other new backfield mate.

Speaker 2 (01:14:32):
This is for me. This is Delpit. I wish he
would have stayed in it. I loved him in the
double Deuces. I thought it looked awesome, Delpit, you had
I thought, I thought it looked awesome. I bought one
of the boys a Delpit twenty two, much like I
bought one of the boys a j Ok twenty eight.
But I like twenty two on Delpit, So I wish

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he would have stayed. Felix right, woh, he look damn
good in a twenty two uster screen.

Speaker 3 (01:14:59):
Early in my ten here was a twenty two.

Speaker 2 (01:15:00):
Jabrill Peppers was twenty two for a couple of years
or a little bit.

Speaker 3 (01:15:06):
Tremon Williams for his two years, here was twenty two.
Yeah that is good. Yeah, I do Delp. It's definitely
my favorite bro NFL Hall of Famers, right though, shout
out yes Gott the Emmett.

Speaker 2 (01:15:18):
Right, NFL A Hall of Famers in twenty two is
pretty loaded bullet Bob Hayes, Mike Haynes, Paul Krause, Bobby Lane,
Emmett Smith, uh, Paul Tylaw.

Speaker 3 (01:15:27):
Who could tell me anything about Paul Krause.

Speaker 2 (01:15:29):
Paul Krause was NFL's all time interception leader. Minnesota Vikings
right free safety, ballhawk, Ballhawk, Perennial Madden.

Speaker 3 (01:15:38):
When he comes into the game, he's always the best
free safety.

Speaker 2 (01:15:42):
To give you a couple more. Derrick Henry Roger Craig
Roer Craig's thirty three. Yeah he is. By the way,
did you guys, were you aware that Ed Reid wore
twenty two with who? I don't know he's in here?
Ed Reid wearing twenty two?

Speaker 3 (01:15:59):
Did he play anywhere other than Baltimore? Twenty two with
the Jets?

Speaker 2 (01:16:07):
Holy cow, no recollection.

Speaker 3 (01:16:09):
In twenty and thirteen, he played seven games for the
Houston Texans and seven games for the Jets. He had
three picks and seven games for the Jets in his
last year in the NFL at the edge of thirty
five and he were number twenty two there. They can't
do that. They're putting they can't. I agree with people
the way that they're doing.

Speaker 2 (01:16:24):
I think they're making a mistake. It's I agree. He's
number twenty and I like twenty two for Samson. I
think that's a cool I like that name. I like that.

Speaker 3 (01:16:31):
EMITTT.

Speaker 2 (01:16:31):
Smith, Emitt Smith's Yeah, he's by the way, how.

Speaker 3 (01:16:34):
About two of the We've got three people off of
that Cowboys team on here in essence because Hayley I
think of as a Niner but also was Yeah, definitely boy, Yeah, yeah,
all right.

Speaker 2 (01:16:44):
Twelve.

Speaker 4 (01:16:44):
The final player in this year's draft class, number twelve
Shdore Senders.

Speaker 3 (01:16:50):
Gosh favorite brown aware. This is Josh Gordon. I own
the jersey, I owned the Pro Bowl jersey, Flash Gordon
for sure. And then Tom Bradley.

Speaker 2 (01:16:59):
See, I know, I know that Brady is twelve, But
it's funny where my head goes with twelve. The first
person in my head goes to with twelve is Randall Cunningham.
Randall cunning In this is the first one. Did Staback
War twelve? Sta Back War twelve, Stabler War twelve, Nameth
War twelve? You I mean twelve in the seventies, Yeah,

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was the Bradshaw War twelve twelve was the quarterback number. Yeah,
it really wasn't close. Uh, look at this list. This
is the list. This is the Hall of famers wearing twelve. Bradshaw,
Bob Greasy, Jim Kelly, Joe Namath, Kenny Stadler, Roger Staubach.
That's six. I don't know that there's a number in

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the Hall of Fame that has that goes six deep
like that. Eighty four eight, Doug Williams four, number twelve here.
No for Washington. Mmm, I don't think so. I think
he wore seventeen for Washington. Well, then why in the
heck did they have him on here because these lists
are probably yeah, they're all jacked up because they haven't.

Speaker 3 (01:18:03):
And I think you are seventeen. You were twelve with
the Bucks at the beginning of his career, he was.

Speaker 2 (01:18:09):
Seventeen and with the Redskins.

Speaker 3 (01:18:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:18:11):
The eighty fours are No, it's not. It's Randy Moss,
Sterling Sharp and Andre Reid. Shannon Sharp.

Speaker 3 (01:18:18):
Reid is eighty three.

Speaker 2 (01:18:20):
Yeah, I agree. The eighties are pretty good. Jerry, it's Jerry,
Chris Carter, Isaac Bruce, Largent, Lofton, Kellen Winslow. That's not
better than the twelves. No, that's pretty good. I think
it's twelve.

Speaker 3 (01:18:35):
What's twenty one?

Speaker 2 (01:18:37):
Hold blease, I'll get you your twenty Dion Chuck Woodson,
robins Let's branch, Dion Ladanian, Chuck Woodson, Rod Woodson. Rod
Woodson was twenty six. Rod Woodson was twenty six.

Speaker 3 (01:18:51):
Everywhere correct.

Speaker 2 (01:18:53):
Thirty four is pretty good. Earl Campbell, Walter Payton, Joe Thurman,
Thomas Jackson. I mean thirty two is pretty good. Marcus Allen,
Jim Brown, Franco Harris Edger, and James O. J. Simpson.
I think it's twelve. I think twelve might have the
best bang for the buck in the Pro Football Hall
of Fame. I like it.

Speaker 3 (01:19:14):
I good, all right, So that's the that's the rookie numbers.
Now we got the veteran numbers.

Speaker 2 (01:19:17):
Maybe get into that tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (01:19:19):
Maybe we can maybe, you know, when we come back.

Speaker 2 (01:19:20):
I think we have higher lower.

Speaker 4 (01:19:22):
We've hired a lower. We just need to get a
break in.

Speaker 2 (01:19:26):
I think, yeah, it's fun. I think twelve. I would
put twelve up against anything in the Pro Football Hall
of Fame. I think it's my final answer. I think
it is. I just it's fourteen's pretty damn good. It's
Auto Graham, Dan Founce, Don Hudson, y a tittle like

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that's pretty good. But I think it's twelve.

Speaker 3 (01:19:49):
It sounds like twelve to me. What seven?

Speaker 2 (01:19:51):
Seven? No, it's like Morten Anderson, John Elway, George Hallis
I mean one, Jeff George. The best one in the
Hall of Fame is Warren Moon. No, yeah, No, it's twelve.
All right, twelve is it? That's that is the the

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There you go. Sure, the most iconic number in the
Pro Football Hall of Fame is twelve. You could make
that argument pretty easily, now I should. Well, we got it.
Second here, let me just check. Now there might be
a fifty. I wonder if there's one of the fifties
that would be able to Now what about ninety two? No,
there are enough people who wore it. Fifty six has
got some good fifty five. But then it's not twelve

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ninety two in the Hall of Fame. It's it's Reggie
pretty good hit rate, Michael Strahan, Reggie White, Richard Seymour.
But that's that's that's it. That's the list, my men. Okay,
all right, we'll play a little higher lower coming up
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Speaker 4 (01:21:40):
NFL Power Rankings twenty twenty five. Which teams improved the
most post draft ESPN NFL Nation with their power rankings?
We'll kick things off. Number one, the Kansas City Chiefs
and their most improved position wide receiver per their people,

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Adam Tyser, the Great Adam Tyser lower or just right
for the Kansas City Chiefs post draft.

Speaker 2 (01:22:11):
I don't know how they could be won. They didn't
win the Super We just saw them get beaten up
by Philly in the Super Bowl in a game that
wasn't particularly close. And they were not high flying Casey
this year anyway.

Speaker 3 (01:22:25):
No, they certainly were not.

Speaker 2 (01:22:26):
No, they've been they really it's been a minute they
want to be Yeah, maybe they'll get back to that.
But I would say, now I love Simmons. At the
end of the first round, you get a top ten
talented tackle at the end of the round. That's a
good good win for them. But no, I can't. I
can't have them number one unless that the Philadelphia Eagles
are also on.

Speaker 4 (01:22:47):
I think it's an older team with a lot of
questions still on the offensive side of the football. Do
they find ways to win in the fourth quarter? Absolutely,
But and as long as you have Mahomes, you're going
to be in the top five.

Speaker 2 (01:22:57):
Every Yeah, for sure. But what is the what is
the reason that they're that they jumped Philly? I just
I'm curious what the.

Speaker 3 (01:23:06):
Why they're the number one, because it says the Eagles
lost a bunch of talent on defense the departure of
Ed Rusher's, Josh Sweat and Brandon Graham, cornerback Darius Slays,
safety CJ. Gardner Johnson, and defensive tackle Milton Williams. So
it's saying they've had they've lost there. Yeah, standpoint getting
you know, Rashid Rice back, which I think is pretty good.
Like the league with twenty four catches through three games.

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They got Hollywood Brown. Now we'll have them Worthy, and
I mean they drafted Jalen Rose to me saying that
that is I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:23:35):
I mean, it's more just like, do you think they
will get back to like Mahomes thrown for fifty two
hundred yards and forty two touchdowns. Do you think that's passed?

Speaker 3 (01:23:42):
I think they could, but I think that it might
be passed. And I think that I don't think Kelsey's
on the ascent anymore. Well, no, no, you know, and
I think he was a big part of being able
to open that up. Now they can get Worthy really go.
They have the chance. Like with Rice Worthy, they have
a lot of speed, a lot of speed. The could
be very dangerous.

Speaker 2 (01:24:01):
Yeah, the healthy. Yeah. The Eagles losses. Like for me
with them, their track record of drafting is so good
that until I see it manifest on the field as
a problem, I almost don't believe it.

Speaker 3 (01:24:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:24:14):
Next higher or lower Eagles are number two, the Buffalo Bills,
number three, of the Detroit Lions number four. Post draft,
ESPN's Navel Nation reporters have their Baltimore Ravens at number five.
Higher lower or just right, Zigura.

Speaker 3 (01:24:33):
I think they're better than that me too, I really do.
I think there they were the number one defense over
the second half of the season. They are an explosive
offense with Lamar and Henry and z Flowers and Bateman
played well and Andrews and what's wild about that? As
everybody listed with the exception Derek Henrick, they drafted. How
about their draft and then their draft to add Malachi
Starks and Mike Green.

Speaker 2 (01:24:54):
Top fifteen player, wasn't Green the top twenty.

Speaker 3 (01:24:57):
Ten, top ten on All People's So they get a T.

Speaker 2 (01:25:00):
Ten player in the league and Malachi Starks and they
everybody back. I mean, if you're gonna have somebody number
one that didn't win the Super Bowl, I would argue them, yes.

Speaker 4 (01:25:12):
And the CBS Sports has them number one.

Speaker 3 (01:25:14):
I think they could be number one.

Speaker 2 (01:25:15):
Yeah, And I think if I think the thing that
the thing I'm curious about like that, who is playing
with more burden this year than Baltimore and Buffalo? No one?
I mean, it's like now is it? Now? Is it?
The only team I might add is Detroit a little
bit because they just wore down last year injury wise,

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and they are definitely in their window too. Detroit is
especially knowing that the Bears are coming up. Yeah, Packers
are coming, Bikes are going to be you know. Yeah.
But I to me Buffalo and and I think I
think Baltimore is better than Buffalo. Next higher, poor lower.

Speaker 4 (01:25:54):
The Kami's are six Rams, seven, Packers, eight, Bikings nine,
and other AFC North team. At number ten, it's the
Cincinnati Bengals most improved position running back.

Speaker 3 (01:26:07):
I don't first of all, I think that is what
an as what an absurd thing to say, Like Chase
Brown is totally the guy. They got Samajip Run back
to be a role player, and they drift by drafting
Tadj Brooks, they drafted in the sixth round. This is
such a.

Speaker 2 (01:26:24):
Strange thing to me. That a strange case.

Speaker 3 (01:26:27):
To me, the most improved position is probably receiver. And
you're saying it's because you're locked up now. Yeah, last
year was an uncertain position. It was talented, but now
it's locked up like Samagip Run in Todje Brooks. What
does that say about what their offseason is If adding
smagip Run and TODs Brooks is the biggest improvement that

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they made in any position group on their.

Speaker 2 (01:26:49):
Rosterall if that's the case, because the still don't have
a defense. No, that's why that's if anything was most improved,
it should be that right now they have Trey Hendrickson.
They drafted defensive players up and down the draft. If anything,
it would be that I would have the Rams. I
think the Rams are around the sweet spot. I'll be
very curious see what Washington does in year two with

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Daniels because Clint if Cliff usually runs out of steam
like halfway through a season, so this is year two
for that whole game. They didn't, But will the book
kind of be out a little bit? CJ. Stroud fell
back a little bit near to Will Jayden Daniels do
that too once the league kind of catches up to
you a little bit. I think it's a little bit
blue bloody for Washington to be there at six. I

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like the Rams where they are. I think Green Bay
is appropriate and really really good. Minnesota at nine, no
one's seen JJ McCarthy throw football in the NFL, so
I can't have them nine. They're ready to like them.
I like him too, but I just don't Minnesota. I
can't have nine when I've never seen the kid play.
I think the Chargers are on the come big way.

Speaker 4 (01:27:53):
Next higher poor lower Chargers eleven, Tampa Bay twelve, Houston thirteen,
Broncos fourteen, rounding out the top fifteen. Zigura's ute team,
the San Francisco forty nine Ers, is the high or
lower just right?

Speaker 3 (01:28:10):
It's probably just right. I think they could easily jump
up really really quickly, but it's probably just right. They
It's all about the health. They got to get the
deal done with brock Purty. But if they're healthy, they're
gonna be awesome.

Speaker 2 (01:28:24):
Did they did? I see this week they have the
easiest schedule in the NFL. Yeah, we have like the
second hardest. It doesn't make any sense. We play the
NFC North, So that excuse everything. Wonderful. Yeah, I see
the Niners bouncing back big this year.

Speaker 3 (01:28:38):
That's the thing for the for the Browns. Like you
look at let's say you look at your division games,
which are six, they're gonna be tough games.

Speaker 2 (01:28:46):
Six games you'll be the dog and barring injury, right,
maybe all of them.

Speaker 3 (01:28:50):
So it feels like two and four, you know, three
and three is a solid record in this division. And
then in your other eleven games, you get Minnesota, Detroit,
Green Bay and the Chicago Bears, who are much improved.
You get the Niners.

Speaker 2 (01:29:10):
Oh my god, right, yeah, Denver. Is it AFC South, It's.

Speaker 3 (01:29:19):
That's twenty twenty five. I think it's a FEWS. So
you get I know, the Niners, it's the NAAFC East.
So you get Buffalo, Miami, New England and the Jets.
Not terrible, there's some wins in there. Then you get

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in the just like, who did we randomly match up
with games? We randomly match up with the Niners, the Raiders,
which is a nice one.

Speaker 2 (01:29:50):
And is that it?

Speaker 3 (01:29:51):
That's eight?

Speaker 2 (01:29:52):
We're missing one more, I think, Oh and the Titans.

Speaker 3 (01:29:58):
I think it's thrown off by You've got so Minnesota one,
ten Nis, Detroit one ten, Green Bay one ten, Buffalo
one ten. Yeah, those are the on the division Ravens
division in the Bengals, Steelers, right yeah, So you have
seven teams that had significantly winning records on your.

Speaker 4 (01:30:16):
Schedule real quick, before we get out, the Steelers were
at number seventeen. The Browns came into twenty nine. Behind
them the Jets, Titans, and the Giants in front of them.
Vegas Carolina number two, So like, we gotta go earn it?

Speaker 2 (01:30:31):
Yep, what is it? What is uh? What do they
say is our biggest improvement?

Speaker 4 (01:30:40):
Stand by, I can tell you I got it running
back running back, Yes.

Speaker 2 (01:30:44):
Yeah, and we got two. Yes, it makes sense, makes sense,
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Speaker 2 (01:31:12):
Let's go get a dubbed to night Cavs, Let's go
get a dub playing. I think Garland I thought we
don't know. Indy was on RBS saying that I thought
somebody said something that with that Garland was, they're all
dinged up, doesn't matter, you're gonna win, You're gonna handle
it better. We had three of the four game ones lost.
That one last night was awesome. That Celtics next game

(01:31:32):
was awesome. I stay into that. That was fun. I
think that that and probably Cleveland Pittsburgh. There aren't many
where the cities. Genuinely, I was in Boston last summer
for Yankees, Red Sox. The vitriol those two cities have
for each other is palpable. That that added to it
last night.

Speaker 3 (01:31:50):
It's awesome.

Speaker 2 (01:31:50):
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