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Speaker 1 (00:03):
I know you hate defending Notre Dame, but I'm pleasantly
surprised to see you agree with me.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
They got hosed.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
So if you would have told me two weeks ago.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
That Miami was ahead of Notre Dame, Okay, we can.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Have that debate, we can have that argument.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
I'll listen to that. But what changed over a week
that warranted Miami to leapfrog Notre Dame. Neither one of
them played, they were both off. If the argument is that's, well,
Miami beat Duke five loss Duke, and Duke won the
conference championship game, and that looks like a good win. Okay,
(00:39):
I guess, But what changed really over a week because
you had Notre Dame above Miami they were both off,
and then the next week being Bada boom, you got
the old back door screw job.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Well, the Alabama thing is just as laughable because Notre
Dame was ahead of Alabama. Then Alabama beat a bad
Auburn team with a losing record right in the Iron Bowl,
barely beats with a losing record in the Iron Bowl,
and some of that moves them ahead of Notre Dame,
and then they get smoked in that conference Championshigame. It's
not like, oh man, they played Georgia down to the wire,
went down to a field, you know, like the Ohio
(01:11):
State Indiana game. No problem, those teams being one and two,
it's a pick them there. They are the number one
and two teams. But they got totally embarrassed, right and
Notre Dame, so we all know what happened. The ACC
said we're not going to get iced out of this thing.
You're not gonna let duke in. So they went to
those other athletic directors, which, by the way, is hilarious
because it's a couple of years ago they were begging
Notre Dame to play an ACC schedule, which they started
(01:34):
doing to save them during COVID, and then they lobbied
against Notre Dame, who has saved them on numerous occasions.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
And everybody that is anti Notre Dame is like, well,
join a conference, Join a conference. Tell me you've never
ran a business before, Because if I'm Notre Dame and
I've got all of this NBC money coming to myself
fifty million a year, why do I want to do
revenue sharing with anybody? Why join just say the Big
(02:00):
ten and have to give Rutgers a cut of what
you do. Why join the ACC and football and give
NC State a cut of what you do?
Speaker 1 (02:10):
No, you the brand? Yeah and the other thing. Like
I said again, and get I'm a Notre Dame homer.
I get it. If Notre Dame had been on the
outside of this along, if they just said, hey, look,
Notre Dame's got a really impressive record post the first
two games, Miami won the head to head, We're putting
Miami in. Now, I'd still be upset about the Alabama,
but at least you'd feel a little better about him
because then you say, well, those conference games don't count. Okay,
Then say all out, the conference championships don't count. Tell
(02:33):
that to your sponsors. When do you want people to
watch the thing? See, they keep trying to have it
both ways, and that's what pisses a lot of people
off and say there's no rhyme or reason other than
the ACC went in there and told those athletic directors, hey,
we're supposed to be in this together. You can't is
us out of this thing all together? You better bounce
Notre Dame out. Who's not in a conference?
Speaker 3 (02:51):
And look, I'm full disclosure. I'm a neutral party here.
I'm a Tennessee Valls guy. Yeah, my team was never
in it, you know, really after the old Oklahoma game
this year. So I feel like I'm a pretty fair
judge of what's going on here. And I just don't
see how in one week where they didn't play Miami
leapfrog Notre Dame and Rob to your point, and I
(03:12):
agree with you. Had Miami been above Notre Dame before then, okay, fine,
but the eleapfrog them then by week, And anybody that's
watched Alabama over the last three to four weeks knows
they're not playing their best football. Oklahoma beat them, they
struggled against a bad Auburn team. Georgia in a revenge game,
beat the breaks off those dudes. Like I thought you
(03:33):
wanted teams playing the best. And Las Vegas odds makers
had Notre Dame and like four or five in terms
of the odds of winning the national championships still as
of last week. So that tells you odds bakers in
Las Vegas clearly think Notre Dame is one of the
teams that deserves to be there.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Yeah, And the fact that you've got these two goober
schools in there, Tulane and James Madison. Who wants to
watch the was it ole? Miss Tulane? Who's watching that game?
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Yeah? And if you want to put one of them in,
if you're telling me, all right, one Nonpower Conference one Cinderella,
all right, fine, somebody's gonna get their doors blown off
by Oregon. Knock yourself off. Uh, but two come on now, because.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Think about what the ratings would have been. Let's just
say they had Notre Dame at twelve or eleven, the
Notre Dame Oregon game or the Notre Dame Oh Miss game, right,
the ratings would if you're a sponsor, because look, we're
in this business. Yeah, we know. At the end of
the day, we're here to entertain, we're here to educate.
At the end of the day, we're here to make money.
We're here to sell stuff, which is why people pay
(04:37):
money to be on this radio station to sell stuff.
If you're a sponsor and you're going, I'm paying for
Oregon two is it Oregon two Lane or I don't
even know which game it is now, it's so it's
so uninteresting. But I'm paying for James Madison like I
would be outraged over this. Look at some of the
teams that are out.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Tell me they wouldn't match up better with any one
of them. You could look at Notre you could look
at Vanderbilt. As much as I despise the little man
syndrome quarterback and his pain in the butt mom, Vanderbilt
would have given one of those guys a better game
than any one of them.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Oh totally. Any of those teams out would beat either
those two teams by two touchdowns. And this Notre Dame.
And you're the expert here, so you back me up
on this. Notre Dame is like the Yankees of or
the Cowboys of college football. Yeah, they're the villain if
they're in a conference, they're not near the villain. They
are as an independent. And that's great for college football
to have that team, just like the Yankees are great
(05:32):
for baseball, the Cowboys are good for football. You need
Notre Dame to be an independent.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Well, and it's like that first loss for Alabama didn't
even matter.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Yeah, are we not even talking about that? Notre Dame
lost to two teams that are in the tournament, two
of the top teams, Miami and Texas A and m
that I'll put those two losses up against any of
the two loss teams. You're right, Alabama lost to Florida State,
who stinks stinks me on Week one, like that didn't matter.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Forget about that. We don't need to go back in history.
But all of the people saying that Notre Dame is
just the crying Irish. Now, well, some of those players
are probably gonna get drafted. Why do they want to
go to the Pop Tart Bowling? If you're not playing
for a touchdown championship, you'll.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Try to set it out.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
I'm old enough to remember when seventh round picks Sam
Hartman set out a meaning game Casey's boyfriend, your boyfriend,
Sam hart but beautiful hair. I love that they said,
we're not doing this, ok, ESPN, you want to screw
us over, We're not going to help you make money.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Who is by you get to play now on the
Pop Tart Bowl. I have no idea. I have no idea.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
The other Bowl games have become non facts.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Yeah, they got to they got to scrap this whole thing.
The playoff is ridiculous. The bowls are meaningless. You know,
you and I talked about that last year with the betting.
How to you even bet them?
Speaker 3 (06:41):
You don't even nobody's playing?
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Yeah, what are you doing this afternoon?
Speaker 3 (06:44):
This afternoon, Guy Relford will join us in studio for
Monday gun Day. And I want to talk to Guy,
not necessarily as a two A expert, but as a
defense attorney, because I do not like what I'm hearing
coming out of the hearings about the guy that shot
I know, a SHAWNA Oz. Anybody can claim that they're
mentally unstable now and get out of the death penalty,
(07:05):
and I don't like it.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Thanks Sammer. It is Kendall and Casey on ninety three WYBC.
I know you hate defending Notre Dame, but I'm pleasantly
surprised to see you agree with me.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
They got hosed.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
So if you would have told me two weeks ago.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
That Miami was ahead of Notre Dame, Okay, we can.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Have that debate, we can have that argument.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
I'll listen to that. But what changed over a week
that warranted Miami to leapfrog Notre Dame. Neither one of
them played, they were both off. If the argument is that's, well,
Miami beat Duke five loss Duke, and Duke won the
conference championship game, and that looks like a good win. Okay,
(00:39):
I guess, But what changed really over a week because
you had Notre Dame above Miami they were both off,
and then the next week being Bada boom, you got
the old back door screw job.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Well, the Alabama thing is just as laughable because Notre
Dame was ahead of Alabama. Then Alabama beat a bad
Auburn team with a losing record right in the Iron Bowl,
barely beats with a losing record in the Iron Bowl,
and some of that moves them ahead of Notre Dame,
and then they get smoked in that conference Championshigame. It's
not like, oh man, they played Georgia down to the wire,
went down to a field, you know, like the Ohio
(01:11):
State Indiana game. No problem, those teams being one and two,
it's a pick them there. They are the number one
and two teams. But they got totally embarrassed, right and
Notre Dame, so we all know what happened. The ACC
said we're not going to get iced out of this thing.
You're not gonna let duke in. So they went to
those other athletic directors, which, by the way, is hilarious
because it's a couple of years ago they were begging
Notre Dame to play an ACC schedule, which they started
(01:34):
doing to save them during COVID, and then they lobbied
against Notre Dame, who has saved them on numerous occasions.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
And everybody that is anti Notre Dame is like, well,
join a conference, Join a conference. Tell me you've never
ran a business before, Because if I'm Notre Dame and
I've got all of this NBC money coming to myself
fifty million a year, why do I want to do
revenue sharing with anybody? Why join just say the Big
(02:00):
ten and have to give Rutgers a cut of what
you do. Why join the ACC and football and give
NC State a cut of what you do?
Speaker 1 (02:10):
No, you the brand? Yeah and the other thing. Like
I said again, and get I'm a Notre Dame homer.
I get it. If Notre Dame had been on the
outside of this along, if they just said, hey, look,
Notre Dame's got a really impressive record post the first
two games, Miami won the head to head, We're putting
Miami in. Now, I'd still be upset about the Alabama,
but at least you'd feel a little better about him
because then you say, well, those conference games don't count. Okay,
Then say all out, the conference championships don't count. Tell
(02:33):
that to your sponsors. When do you want people to
watch the thing? See, they keep trying to have it
both ways, and that's what pisses a lot of people
off and say there's no rhyme or reason other than
the ACC went in there and told those athletic directors, hey,
we're supposed to be in this together. You can't is
us out of this thing all together? You better bounce
Notre Dame out. Who's not in a conference?
Speaker 3 (02:51):
And look, I'm full disclosure. I'm a neutral party here.
I'm a Tennessee Valls guy. Yeah, my team was never
in it, you know, really after the old Oklahoma game
this year. So I feel like I'm a pretty fair
judge of what's going on here. And I just don't
see how in one week where they didn't play Miami
leapfrog Notre Dame and Rob to your point, and I
(03:12):
agree with you. Had Miami been above Notre Dame before then, okay, fine,
but the eleapfrog them then by week, And anybody that's
watched Alabama over the last three to four weeks knows
they're not playing their best football. Oklahoma beat them, they
struggled against a bad Auburn team. Georgia in a revenge game,
beat the breaks off those dudes. Like I thought you
(03:33):
wanted teams playing the best. And Las Vegas odds makers
had Notre Dame and like four or five in terms
of the odds of winning the national championships still as
of last week. So that tells you odds bakers in
Las Vegas clearly think Notre Dame is one of the
teams that deserves to be there.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Yeah, And the fact that you've got these two goober
schools in there, Tulane and James Madison. Who wants to
watch the was it ole? Miss Tulane? Who's watching that game?
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Yeah? And if you want to put one of them in,
if you're telling me, all right, one Nonpower Conference one Cinderella,
all right, fine, somebody's gonna get their doors blown off
by Oregon. Knock yourself off. Uh, but two come on now, because.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Think about what the ratings would have been. Let's just
say they had Notre Dame at twelve or eleven, the
Notre Dame Oregon game or the Notre Dame Oh Miss game, right,
the ratings would if you're a sponsor, because look, we're
in this business. Yeah, we know. At the end of
the day, we're here to entertain, we're here to educate.
At the end of the day, we're here to make money.
We're here to sell stuff, which is why people pay
(04:37):
money to be on this radio station to sell stuff.
If you're a sponsor and you're going, I'm paying for
Oregon two is it Oregon two Lane or I don't
even know which game it is now, it's so it's
so uninteresting. But I'm paying for James Madison like I
would be outraged over this. Look at some of the
teams that are out.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Tell me they wouldn't match up better with any one
of them. You could look at Notre you could look
at Vanderbilt. As much as I despise the little man
syndrome quarterback and his pain in the butt mom, Vanderbilt
would have given one of those guys a better game
than any one of them.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Oh totally. Any of those teams out would beat either
those two teams by two touchdowns. And this Notre Dame.
And you're the expert here, so you back me up
on this. Notre Dame is like the Yankees of or
the Cowboys of college football. Yeah, they're the villain if
they're in a conference, they're not near the villain. They
are as an independent. And that's great for college football
to have that team, just like the Yankees are great
(05:32):
for baseball, the Cowboys are good for football. You need
Notre Dame to be an independent.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Well, and it's like that first loss for Alabama didn't
even matter.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Yeah, are we not even talking about that? Notre Dame
lost to two teams that are in the tournament, two
of the top teams, Miami and Texas A and m
that I'll put those two losses up against any of
the two loss teams. You're right, Alabama lost to Florida State,
who stinks stinks me on Week one, like that didn't matter.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Forget about that. We don't need to go back in history.
But all of the people saying that Notre Dame is
just the crying Irish. Now, well, some of those players
are probably gonna get drafted. Why do they want to
go to the Pop Tart Bowling? If you're not playing
for a touchdown championship, you'll.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Try to set it out.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
I'm old enough to remember when seventh round picks Sam
Hartman set out a meaning game Casey's boyfriend, your boyfriend,
Sam hart but beautiful hair. I love that they said,
we're not doing this, ok, ESPN, you want to screw
us over, We're not going to help you make money.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Who is by you get to play now on the
Pop Tart Bowl. I have no idea. I have no idea.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
The other Bowl games have become non facts.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Yeah, they got to they got to scrap this whole thing.
The playoff is ridiculous. The bowls are meaningless. You know,
you and I talked about that last year with the betting.
How to you even bet them?
Speaker 3 (06:41):
You don't even nobody's playing?
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Yeah, what are you doing this afternoon?
Speaker 3 (06:44):
This afternoon, Guy Relford will join us in studio for
Monday gun Day. And I want to talk to Guy,
not necessarily as a two A expert, but as a
defense attorney, because I do not like what I'm hearing
coming out of the hearings about the guy that shot
I know, a SHAWNA Oz. Anybody can claim that they're
mentally unstable now and get out of the death penalty,
(07:05):
and I don't like it.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Thanks Sammer. It is Kendall and Casey on ninety three WYBC.
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