Kendall & Casey Hour 1, 12-5-2025

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Speaker 1 (00:04):
That's an interesting way to start a Friday, isn't it.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
Well everything is broke around here, and of course we're moving,
so nobody's like putting any effort into fixing anything. And
now my headset Jack has broke.

Speaker 3 (00:16):
So h do you need headphones? Well? I don't.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
I mean, I've been at this twenty five years. I
should be able to put this together on my own, right.
I mean, you tell me if I start sounding like
Alvin the Chipmunk, you step right in.

Speaker 3 (00:26):
Great.

Speaker 1 (00:27):
Even if you did, I wouldn't tell you.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
The microphone wasn't even on. The whole show is the
Kidnel and Casey Show. I'm Rob caseyse here. Uh, we
got to talk about this article that was in the
Indiana Capitol Chronicle. These public education people are the greediest
bunch of pigs I have ever seen in my entire life.
They're disgusting.

Speaker 1 (00:50):
Yeah, so some of the school leaders, they're warning that
the property tax reforms are destabilizing public education budget.

Speaker 2 (00:58):
Okay, so this is and this is not the fault
of the Apple Chronicle. We love the Capitol Chronicle. We're
not blaming them. They're they're reporting on stuff that's going
on and when I'm talking about the pathetic, greedy pigs.
I'm talking about the people that run the public education system.
And one of the things he writes, look, this is
not sure about every public education administrator or teacher like
I'm not trying to say that, but I'm saying this

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industry as a collective. They come off as the biggest
bunch of entitled elitists I have ever met. And what
I mean by that is whatever of yours they want,
they believe should be theirs. They don't give a damn
about you at all. Your finances, your ability to live,
they believe, and many people in government do. But we're

(01:40):
talking about the public education system here. They believe that
you work for them. Whatever we decide the taxes should be,
that's what it should be. Whatever we tell you to pay,
that's what you should pay. And this article, and by
the way, the amazing thing is none of these people
go on record. They won't put their name behind it
because they know deep down it's so disgusting. It's all
about the Senate Bill one, which is a bad bill.

(02:03):
I'm not going to refute that. We've said that the
bill is, but for a variety of reasons, primarily it
doesn't help people enough. It doesn't help the taxpayers enough,
it doesn't rein in the school systems enough, and it
creates all these new taxes that can be levied. That's
our primary beef with this bill, not oh the poor schools.
It doesn't help you the taxpayer enough. But this article

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is these just one anonymous sobs story after another from
these school administrators who are having some sort of aneurism
and drowning in a river of tears over the fact
that you the taxpayer might get.

Speaker 3 (02:41):
Three hundred dollars max.

Speaker 2 (02:43):
Most people won't even get the three hundred dollars, but
you might get three hundred dollars back next year on
your property taxson.

Speaker 1 (02:48):
Is something that it's coming from the school administrators, by
the way, who most often make well over six figures.

Speaker 2 (02:54):
Oh yes, like you're talking many of these suburban school
district administrators, these superintendents, and by the way, most of
them got two or three quote unquote assistant superintendents. And
these superintendents in the suburban school districts, many of them
making well over two hundred thousand dollars plus benefits, cars,
cell phones, retirement plan, and they have the audacity to

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come on here and act like the world's going to
end because you're getting two hundred dollars back.

Speaker 1 (03:20):
They say that the rising costs for gas, electricity, insurance, transportation,
and maintenance are outpacing funding. So my question for you, yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:30):
Let's stop with that for a second, because this is
always the government argument. Right, Oh, it's inflation, And I
don't dispute there's inflation, But who is inflation caused by?
By the way the government? The government created the problem.
So when the government cries about the problem the government created,
I don't have any sympathy for that, because you know,
if they never condemn the government that printed all the money, casey,

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they ever condemned the people who caused the problem.

Speaker 3 (03:52):
They just say, give us more of that printed money.

Speaker 2 (03:54):
Now, inflation is a thing, absolutely, But in your life,
does somebody just throw money at you or do you
have to just figure it out? And inflation ain't anywhere
near the funding increases these people have gotten over the
past five years as property assessments have skyrocketed, Which what
does the government do with that? They look at you
and say, shut up and pay when that bill comes

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in the mail. They don't feel sympathy for you and go, man,
can Casey pay this? What about inflation? How has Casey
been hit by inflation? Oh, maybe we should consider cutting
this bill down by a couple hundred dollars because inflation's
really hurt Casey. No, they're like, you pay her, you
lose your house. And so my question is to these
poor singing orphans of public education, what.

Speaker 3 (04:39):
Did you do with all the money?

Speaker 1 (04:41):
Where did the money go?

Speaker 3 (04:42):
So I know where went in Brownsburg?

Speaker 2 (04:44):
It went to a second football field for state of
the art field houses. They have a legit indoor track
at Brownsburg. Now, they build a road in my neighbor's backyards,
They move tennis courts. You tell me how any of
that has anything to do do with learning in the classroom.
The answer is it doesn't have one damn thing to
do with learning in the classroom. It was they spent it.

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They spent it on grandiose, on excess, on building monuments.

Speaker 3 (05:10):
They've got one of.

Speaker 2 (05:11):
Those scoreboards now that looks like the scoreboard at Victory Field. Casey,
you tell me how that helped one kid learn anything.

Speaker 1 (05:18):
Well, they're saying that they're experiencing rising costs of electricity.
Let me ask you, Rob at your house. Has your
electric bill? Is it gone up or down? Up? Oh,
it's gone. So you've got to deal with that as well.
So what are you gonna do. Are you going to
go cry to other people and say I need more money,
please help me pay my electric bill?

Speaker 4 (05:38):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (05:38):
I tried that here, you know what I got told?

Speaker 1 (05:41):
Huh? So you've got to figure it out exactly. Yeah, insurance, transportation, maintenance.
You're dealing with all of those things in your life
as well. And what do you do you make it work?

Speaker 2 (05:52):
And casey, oh gosh, darn it. Nine to thirteen. I
don't even have headphones to hear myself say this. This
is a doubly bit. What is my least favorite part
of every show?

Speaker 1 (06:00):
When you have to say that you're right?

Speaker 2 (06:02):
And what did we say when they passed this property
tax bill? One of the last things in what is
now dubbed the Last Supper with me and Braun, one
of the things I told him is I said, one,
it's not helping people enough. But I said two, there's
nothing in here that's going to stop these government people
from coming back for these referendums. You're doing nothing to
police them other than you're moving the referendums that they

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have to be to even ears, which will make them
a little harder to pass. But you're not stopping them.
You're still putting on the onus on the taxpayer to
defend him or herself. And these people aren't going to
get the memo, mister governor. It's not like you're going
to pass this property tax bill and they're going to go, Okay,
you're right. We were totally out of control. We get
the message. Why did the tax caps become a thing

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because local governments wouldn't stop spending money.

Speaker 3 (06:47):
And from the very moment those.

Speaker 2 (06:49):
Tax caps were passed in two thousand and eight and
put into the constitution twenty ten, these public school systems
have been trying to gain the system with these referendums.

Speaker 3 (06:58):
They've never gotten the memo.

Speaker 2 (06:59):
They have no respect for the taxpayers whatsoever, and they're
going to continue to do it until the legislature does
something about it.

Speaker 1 (07:05):
So this survey talked to one hundred and forty eight
out of two hundred and ninety school districts, and out
of those, ninety five point three percent expect negative financial
impacts and ninety nine point three percent expect long term
negative financials.

Speaker 3 (07:19):
That's the idea, idiots.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
The idea was you have too much money, the same
reason the caps went in a place to begin with,
what is my What is the thing that drives me
more crazy than anything?

Speaker 3 (07:30):
When somebody goes the revenue we lost, We lost it, No,
you didn't.

Speaker 2 (07:35):
We know exactly where it is. It's back in the
pockets of people who earned it. The pole premise of
this is the property taxes are totally out of control,
that there's too much money being taken from people from
their house which the government had nothing to do with
them buying, and being given to people who are building
extra We have two football fields where I live.

Speaker 1 (07:58):
Two, Casey of the practice and what the game feels an.

Speaker 2 (08:02):
Entire indoor track. Oh and they're building. You know what
they're doing now, Casey, they're moving the outdoor track. You
know why they're moving the outdoor track. The tax fars.
Get this, The tax faars are paying to destroy the
existing track and move it. You know why, because these
Einstein's build it in the wrong direction, so the kids
are running into the sun in the evening. That's the

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level of competency we're dealing with here. And I'm supposed
to just shut up and pay for that.

Speaker 1 (08:28):
This invitamin D good for you. God, this is.

Speaker 2 (08:31):
Just these people are disgusting. But you know who is
actually to blame on this. The lawmakers because they know
what's going on. They've known what's going on for years,
and because they're gutless cowards who are more focused on
trying to give jun Jennifer Ruth Green a seat in Congress,
They're not gonna do a damn thing about this. And

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there's gonna be all these referendums that are gonna pass
next year because the game is rigged in favor of
the schools, because they can spend all of this money
on games. On the elections, they can spend all of
this money and get all these political action committees with
groups that will make money off the construction contracts to
come in and fund these packs. I know, I've seen
it happen that these will pass. People end up paying

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more in taxes. And these lawmakers down the street from us,
who are moving heaven and earth to put Jennifer Ruth
Green in Congress, see their little rally today. We're going
to sit there with their thumbs up their backside and go, oh.

Speaker 3 (09:27):
Somebody should do something about this.

Speaker 1 (09:29):
Somebody, whoever that is. You're listening to Kendall and Casey.
It is ninety three WYBC.

Speaker 3 (09:38):
Ay question.

Speaker 2 (09:39):
What are you heading down to the elect Jennifer Ruth
Green rally that they're having here.

Speaker 3 (09:43):
In a little bit at the State House.

Speaker 1 (09:45):
No, I'm not. Are you do you want to go?

Speaker 5 (09:48):
No?

Speaker 3 (09:49):
I think you know. I got somewhere to go when
I get done here.

Speaker 1 (09:51):
It's being sponsored by a Turning Point USA.

Speaker 2 (09:53):
Is That's right, So there's some It'll be interesting to
see if they get more than thirty, which is what
they had last time they had a rally for redistricting.

Speaker 1 (10:00):
Yeah, I feel like they'll get more.

Speaker 2 (10:02):
Well, look, Turning Point USA will put people on buses
if they have to and get them here. I'll be
curious to know how many people are actually from Indiana
or how many people were brought here by Turning Point USA,
and if people are being compensated to come. I'll be
curious about all of that because clearly, after six months
of this, every public opinion poll that has been released,
including by Republican pollsters, multiple done by Republican polsters, have

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shown that the public is against this. We've had multiple
town halls where people could show up and speak. Nobody came.
We had the rally. They had the rally at the
State House. They had thirty ish people. It was the
same face as we always see at everything. And then
there was testimony opportunity the other day.

Speaker 3 (10:44):
No, they didn't get anybody any.

Speaker 2 (10:45):
Notice, of course, because they don't actually give a damn
about what you think about redistricting and what There were
just a handful of people who showed up to speak
and supported this thing. So after six months and numerous opportunities,
the supposed angry majority that desperately wants to put someone
completely unethical like Jennifer Ruth Green, who was blown out

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of her job in the Braun administration because she has
the ethics of Tony Soprano, put herself under inspector general investigation.

Speaker 3 (11:18):
That's who they want. She's the golden child. That's what
this is about.

Speaker 2 (11:20):
Electing Jennifer Ruth Green in the first congressional district and
giving her a seat in Congress. And we are led
to believe that putting that woman in there is somehow
going to save the republic. That's the case they're making today.
Braun and Micah and the rest of those people. Somebody
should really ask Mike Braun why he is speaking at
a rally which is essentially in support of electing a
woman that he knew was so corrupt and unethical they

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blew her out of her two hundred and seventy five
thousand dollars position in his cabinet. Somebody should ask him
and ask his little tweeby assistant Micah that today as well.

Speaker 1 (11:53):
So, actually it's turning point action that is putting this on.
It's inside the State House.

Speaker 3 (11:57):
That's a turning point, USA.

Speaker 1 (11:58):
Yeah, it begins at noon and you've got the same
flyer that is being circulated. You've got Governor Mike Brawn
who's going to be there, the Lieutenant Governor Micah Beck
with also Representative Andrew Ireland will be there. And then
according to this other flyer that looks exactly the same,
Donald Trump and Charlie Kirk because their pictures are on
it as well.

Speaker 2 (12:17):
That's gross that they put Charlie Kirk's picture on there.
It's also I mean ridiculous they put Donald Trump's picture
on there. But what they're admitting to you, and this
is why you need to care about this, because it's
not even about what your stance is on redistricting. It's
about the behavior of these people, because what they're doing
here they're doing other places, and that's costing you real money.

Speaker 3 (12:40):
And that is that this is not about you.

Speaker 2 (12:43):
Nothing these people do down the street from us is
about you. They can't tell you think about this. We've
been at this for six months. You had Andrew Ireland
in here, and he can't tell you one thing that's
going to change if you get rid of Andre Carson. Hammer,
Nigel and I had this conversation yesterday. Is it We'll
get rid of Andrey Carson. But Carson's not the problem.

(13:04):
Carson doesn't have any power right now. Yeahs Andre Carson
or rotten representative of course is the radical leftist, of
course he is, but he doesn't have any power whatsoever.
The Republicans are in charge of everything, both in the
state and in Washington, and so if you're mad about
the direction of the country, you can't blame Andre Carson

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because he doesn't have a say in it.

Speaker 1 (13:28):
So they say, join us for a community gathering, as
we'll call on the State Senate to support President Trump's
America First agenda and fair maps for Indiana to a
community gathering.

Speaker 2 (13:39):
Somebody in the media, or if you go down to
this today, ask Mike Brown, by the way, after what
we went through at the property tax rally where Braun
looked a thousand people right in the eye and lied
to us, isn't he the last guy you would have
come speak at this thing? Isn't he the last guy
you would be like, let's put him out there. It
went so well the last time he went and spoke

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to somebody. Somebody asked Braun, if you go today though,
why if Jennifer Ruth Green is so great, because that's
who they're going to run in this first congressional district,
That's who they're doing this for. If she's so great,
why he blew her out of his administration and why
she ended up under Inspector General investigation and why they
made her sign that performance plan thing before she got

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the boot. Why he is wanting to rig these maps
so bad to put this woman in who he thought
was so awful he ran her out of his administration.

Speaker 1 (14:29):
Well, the House is reconvening this morning at ten am,
and they're going to have that final vote in the
House on the redistricting bill. Yesterday, Governor Mike Brawn was
on with Hammer and Nigel, and he said that even
if the Senate votes down the maps, that that's not
the end of it. Did you hear that?

Speaker 3 (14:49):
Oh, it's very I will not be ignored.

Speaker 1 (14:51):
Dan, Yeah, check this out here.

Speaker 5 (14:53):
I'm surprised that they haven't taken the cue, because let's
say they don't, this is not the end of it.
Do you think the White House is going to just
drop the issue when they've come in twice with the
Vice President twice with phone.

Speaker 3 (15:11):
Calls, you guys have gone there.

Speaker 5 (15:13):
Yes, So that doesn't mean it's over like you can
get that off of your agenda. It just then becomes
a different type of a pursuit, and it's a longer
term possibly. And I don't think it'd be a dead
issue even in the session when it starts in January.
So I think all of that would make you wonder

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why they die on that hill.

Speaker 1 (15:38):
He said, it will be a different type of pursuit
if the Senate votes this down.

Speaker 2 (15:43):
Well, we have a saying for what you just heard, Casey.
It's called not knowing your head from your ass. Look,
bronispathetic this, I mean, he looks pathetic, the groveling, the sniveling,
the eye will not be ignored Dan routine, Like, dude,
why aren't you putting this effort into something that will

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help the people of your state. There's so many things,
and we've laid them out countless times that you could
be fighting this hard on and again. If somebody would
like to correct me, I'm all ears at robinim Kendall
on Twitter. You can hit me in the YouTube chat
obviously people say hey in US horrific things about me there.

Speaker 3 (16:20):
I'll probably see it at some point.

Speaker 2 (16:23):
What we'll getting rid of Andre Carson do to better
your life? The Republicans have control if you just say
I hate andre Carson and I want him to go okay,
but that's not better in your life because andre Carson
doesn't have a say in anything right now now, nor
does Frank Mrvan. If nothing is getting done, it's on
the Republicans. And all we're doing with this, all this

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exercise is about, is saying we can't win these elections
by governing, so we're going to change these maps to
reward ourselves for the bad governing because we aren't doing
the things that we promised you to do. Merely getting
spending and inflation and cost of living under control. You're
just bailing out the bad behavior if you go along

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with this.

Speaker 1 (17:07):
Speaking of cost of living, we're going to be joined
next by Michael Toath. He's a research director from Civitas Institute,
and we're going to talk about affordability when it comes
to health insurance. There's a lot of talk happening in
DC about that right now, and we'll get his thoughts
coming up on ninety three WIBC.

Speaker 6 (17:26):
People's a pretty book out of his sleeping bag.

Speaker 2 (17:31):
Creature, lots of casey.

Speaker 3 (17:35):
We discussed this yesterday.

Speaker 2 (17:36):
Yeah, you know, we had a little little seminar on
our insurance here at work.

Speaker 1 (17:41):
Because it's open enrollment season with health.

Speaker 3 (17:43):
Insurance and across the entire country.

Speaker 2 (17:46):
Well, it's a mess. Yeah, and there's a good chance
it's going to cost you a lot more money.

Speaker 1 (17:50):
Than the Yeah. And just earlier this week, the Senate
held a hearing and it was called making Healthcare Affordable Again,
Healing a broken System. And during that hearing, our Senator,
Indiana's Jim Banks, said that the five hospital systems controlled
most of Indiana's hospitals, and he asked how that lack
of competition is raising prices and causing higher health insurance premiums,

(18:15):
which we're experiencing. And the director of research from Civatas Institute,
Michael Toath, he wrote an op ed and it was
featured in the Washington Times and he pretty much made
the exact same point. So let's get with Michael and
ask him some questions. Michael, you said that if we
don't fix competition within healthcare, especially within hospital markets, families

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and employers, they're going to be paying more and Congress
will keep fighting over the budget and that all could
lead to more shutdowns like we experienced earlier a few
months ago. Is that correct?

Speaker 4 (18:51):
Yeah, case you, good morning. Great to be with you guys,
Great to be with your listener.

Speaker 7 (18:54):
I'll try to bring like a little bit of good
news to the conversation because I know when the conversation
gets to healthcare is just like, oh my gosh, you know,
one bad news cycle after the next.

Speaker 4 (19:04):
But if there's one.

Speaker 7 (19:06):
Silver lining is the fact that we're having this conversation
and you've got leaders like.

Speaker 4 (19:12):
Jim Banks who are really driving.

Speaker 7 (19:14):
This issue because the fact of the matter is health
healthcare costs in the United States are outrageously high, and
they're going up into the right and we need an
all hands on deck moment to really fix the various
parts of the system that are driving these costs through
the roof, for employees, for employers, I mean everybody across

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the board.

Speaker 4 (19:36):
And so yeah, my piece gets that one aspect of that.

Speaker 7 (19:39):
Senator Banks was raising that issue we need more competition,
we need more consumer choice across the board.

Speaker 3 (19:46):
Well, yeah, here's the problem. Here's the they shou. I
think people have though we've.

Speaker 2 (19:49):
Heard this from the Republicans for fifteen years, right, they
ran on the twenty ten minu terms that we're goll
fix Obama or the sphinx, and they never do anything
about it. Who is preventing them from doing something about it?

Speaker 4 (20:01):
It's a great question, you know, I think now's the time.

Speaker 7 (20:03):
I mean, I think after multiple shutdowns, you know, this
issue has become so problematic, and you're absolutely right. But
what I will say is, you know the issues on
how to reform the system, because that's what we need.
And obviously Obamacare didn't do what it was promised. I
mean I went back and looked at it, and you know,
then Senator Obama running for President in two thousand and eight,

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talking about Obamacare, said it was going to lower premiums
by two thousand, five hundred dollars per family per year.
The cost of insurance on the Obamacare exchanges has gone
up ten thousand dollars per family or four. So we've
gone in exactly the opposite direction. But what I think
the Republicans in Congress are starting to realize is that

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we need systematic reform.

Speaker 5 (20:51):
Right.

Speaker 7 (20:51):
It's not just a matter of putting a band aid
on a broken system.

Speaker 4 (20:56):
We've got to look holistically at how.

Speaker 7 (20:58):
Can we inject It's transparency, competition, and consumer choice all
throughout the system, right, And so we've got to look
at the rules that are driving prices up into the right.
And so I think there's conversations that are happy now
that weren't really happening in twenty seventeen, weren't really happening

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in twenty ten, you know.

Speaker 4 (21:20):
And you've got.

Speaker 7 (21:20):
Leaders like Brian Blaize from Paragun Health Institute Orick Roy,
Senator Banks on the consolidation issues that we need to address.
So I feel like we're getting the critical massive folks.
But you know, nothing in Washington is a given so
you know, let's keep the pressure on.

Speaker 1 (21:36):
Michael top Is joining us from the Civitas Institute. He's
the research director there. So Rob and I were curious
you mentioned giving consumers more choice. What would that look
like in a real world example.

Speaker 7 (21:49):
Yeah, I mean I think it's got to look you know,
there's got to be consumer choice at various parts of
the system.

Speaker 4 (21:55):
So I'll just mention a few things.

Speaker 7 (21:56):
First of all, you know, more hsas, right, So if
we look at HSA's you're putting you're putting healthcare choice
in the pocketbook.

Speaker 4 (22:05):
Of the consumer, right. So that's one aspect of it.

Speaker 7 (22:08):
Another aspect of it, and this gets to the shutdown
is you know, we were giving one hundred cents on
the dollar to insurance companies, you know for these Obamacare premiums.

Speaker 4 (22:17):
You know, that's not price competition.

Speaker 7 (22:20):
If somebody's getting one hundred cents on the dollars, they
have no incentive to bring those costs down.

Speaker 4 (22:24):
So I know folks on Capitol Hill, on both sides
of the aisle, are looking at addressing that issue.

Speaker 7 (22:30):
Another issue on choice is making sure that there's choice
in the marketplace, and that's part of what my op
ed got into in the Washington Times. That's what Senator
Banks got into. When we look at a major driver
of healthcare costs, it's the hospitals, over a trillion dollars
of spending, and we're seeing more and more consolidation. We
need more competition in the marketplace. Competition on the private

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side is what bring costs down. So I think we
need to basically stack choice on top of choice on
choice and competition, and that force is going to do
what it's done across other markets, which is bring cost down.
One last thing case here. You know, health care is
not completely broken. There are parts of the healthcare industry
where costs are going down. It's things like LASiS where

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people are spending their own money on services.

Speaker 4 (23:16):
There's lots of competitions bringing the cost down. So we
can do this. We just have to reform the system.

Speaker 1 (23:21):
How long do you think consumers would see any savings
if any of these proposed reforms actually were put into place.

Speaker 4 (23:30):
You know, these things do take some time to turn around.

Speaker 7 (23:33):
But I know with what's going on in Washington now,
there's conversations that are happening right now, and let's let's
be honest too. I mean, we've seen prices move quickly
in the opposite direction. So these rules, these regulations, they
do make a difference. I mean year one of Obamacare,
the premiums went up forty seven percent.

Speaker 4 (23:52):
Okay, I mean that just goes to show what changes can.

Speaker 7 (23:55):
Do to people's pocketbooks, right, And so I think, you know,
consumers are smart. People know that the system is broken,
and once our leaders in Washington sort to get the
right points in place and fix it, I think consumers
will respond like they always do and make the decisions
that make the most sense for them and their families.

Speaker 1 (24:13):
Well, we appreciate your time. You can find that article
in the Washington Times, and it's making healthcare more affordable. Again,
thank you, Michael for your consideration.

Speaker 4 (24:25):
Kacy, my pleasure. Let's do it again.

Speaker 1 (24:27):
It is Ketley Casey. It's ninety three WIBC.

Speaker 2 (24:35):
So there's numbers out on how many people have been
let go in this country and it's not great, No.

Speaker 1 (24:42):
It's not. So. There was a consulting firm by the
name of Challenger Gray and Christmas. They reported on Thursday. Yeah,
can you I menage if your last name was Christmas
it would be a holiday every day. But they announced
that there were one point one million job layoffs announced
this year, and it has been the most since twenty

(25:04):
twenty during the pandemic.

Speaker 2 (25:06):
Well, this is one of the things that the Republicans
don't want to admit. And look, it's not all the Republicans' fault.
They just happen to be in charge right now. But
this country, I mean, this country has just been so
abhorrent and how we I mean, look, it was bad
before COVID, but the way we've handled economic policy in
this country, with the money printing, with the now the tariffs,

(25:28):
with the supply chain disruptions. You can't do all of
these things and not think it's going to have some
sort of profound impact on the economy. You could mask
it for so long the way they did during COVID,
or they just threw a bunch of money at people
and we're like, oh, see, no problem whatsoever. I mean,
you think about it when you say it out loud.
Do you think you could realistically shut a society down

(25:50):
for six months a year and then once society quote
unquote opens back up it's some slow rollout and shut
down ports and the ability to move goods services and
not think that eventually there's going to be some long
term effect to it, right, Like, I don't know why
this is surprising to people at all. And in this case,

(26:10):
the Republicans and Democrats share the blame equally because it
started under Trump. All the shutdown stuff, all the bribery
of the States was done under Trump.

Speaker 3 (26:18):
They would have never.

Speaker 2 (26:19):
Shut down if they hadn't printed all that money and
thrown it at people. Then obviously continued under Biden, So
you've got all these things that were shut down. Biden
and his people were brutally incompetent, and so nothing really
got back to the way it was before. And then
you have Trump coming in pouring gas on it with
the tariffs. Like why any person would think that this

(26:40):
is surprising or that it's going to get any better
anytime soon is beyond me.

Speaker 1 (26:44):
So total layoffs for twenty twenty five have reached one
point one seven million, and it's fifty four percent higher
than the same period last year. It's also the highest
layoff level since twenty twenty as we mentioned, and some
of the key drivers for the layoffs include restructuring. It's
the most common reason for job cuts in November, followed

(27:05):
by company closings and also economic market conditions. They also
say it's artificial intelligence AI related changes have caused over
fifty four thousand layoffs this year. Tech companies alone announced
over twelve thousand cuts in November, and that raises the
tech layoffs by seventeen percent year over year. And then

(27:25):
as you mentioned tariffs.

Speaker 2 (27:27):
You know, we've gone from I remember this years ago.
I would have been in college. Maybe this is a
college class. I don't remb where I heard this from.
So this would have been in the mid two thousands,
and somebody was saying technology is going to reach a
point where the good it does, like the helping right

(27:48):
or whatever to humanity, gets far surpassed by the damage
it does. And what they meant by that is, like,
there's a lot of good things that come out of
you know, technology, medical advancements, helping people live longer, certainly
in terms of you know, the invention of the internet. Hey,
you can communicate with people that you know, I haven't
seen years all these sorts of things. But they said,
eventually the technology will advance to the point where the

(28:11):
damage it starts doing. And you're seeing this right with
the AI stuff, with the ability of like you know
you look at just look at your fast food joint,
the kiosk, you know, taking away the jobs of like
it's going to just swallow up the entire economy and
then there's going to be these new things come along, see,
you know, the artificial intelligence, the videos, the deep fakes,

(28:33):
the all of this stuff where society is just going
to be overrun by it and they'll be over recovering
from it, and it starts to its start.

Speaker 3 (28:40):
It is starting to really feel.

Speaker 2 (28:42):
Like we are entering that phase of the game where
the robots start winning and taking over and select people
who for like tip top yeah, for lack of better
term control, the robots are going to keep doing well
and everybody else souper line for you.

Speaker 1 (29:01):
So layoff announcements above seventy thousand in November have happened
only twice since the year two thousand and eight, and
since the two thousand and eight financial crisis, a lot
of companies generally try to avoid announcing layoffs right before
the holidays. November's numbers were lower than October's numbers. October's
numbers were pretty bad one hundred and fifty thousand plus cuts,

(29:24):
and that was the highest level in twenty two years
for that month.

Speaker 2 (29:29):
Well, and and then comes back to you know, you
start with like, what are they doing today?

Speaker 3 (29:33):
What's the focus today down the street from us.

Speaker 1 (29:36):
Is it any districting?

Speaker 3 (29:37):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (29:38):
Is it on any of the stuff? Is it anything
about affordability of living? Is it addressing the skyrocketing utility bills?
Any of this stuff that would help actual people. No.
I asked this question yesterday and not a single person
could answer it on social media. Has there been one
bill filed by a Republican that is focused on lowering
the burden to the government that everybody.

Speaker 3 (30:00):
Is asked to shoulder?

Speaker 2 (30:01):
So tax because but I'm going to talk about these
specialty tax cuts they do like for their business buddies.
I'm talking about like legitimate gas tax, property tax, the
utility bills, all that stuff.

Speaker 3 (30:11):
No, of course not.

Speaker 2 (30:12):
Is there anything addressing affordability of living? No, of course not.
It's they're focused on crypto. They're focused on getting rid
of making lutenan governor an appointed position. They're focused on
the stupid sandwich, They're focused on this redistricting stuff.

Speaker 3 (30:27):
There's nothing they're doing. And the same thing is.

Speaker 2 (30:29):
True in Washington and then in Washington they have the
audacity to come out and go.

Speaker 6 (30:33):
Oh, it's the greatest echotomy ever. We're cooking. Everything's fabulous.
We're so hot right now. No, we're not hot right now.
We're not hot right now.

Speaker 2 (30:44):
There is I believe it was the philosopher Katie Perry
who once said, you're hot than you're cold, you're yes
than you're no.

Speaker 3 (30:50):
And that's where we're at right now. Like that for Rizel,
it is not hot.

Speaker 1 (30:54):
There was a new poll that came out and this
was published in Politico, and it says that Trump's own
voter are now beginning to blame him for the affordability christ.

Speaker 3 (31:04):
Do you have a data point on that? I do, Okay,
I do.

Speaker 4 (31:07):
So.

Speaker 1 (31:08):
The polling shows that many Americans are starting to blame
Donald Trump for the high cost of living. Forty six
percent say the cost of living is the worst they
can remember, and thirty seven percent of them were Trump voters.

Speaker 2 (31:21):
Yeah, it's not getting any better. So after you've been
there a year, you own it. Right, there's a window
where he's okay, hey, it's the other guy. We went
through this Obama where it was ridiculous, where everything three
years in was still Bush's fault. Oh no, no, no, no, no,
no no. You signed up for this job. You knew
what the job was. You don't get to blame the
other guy after a certain window of time. And I
think what has people really irked is not only is

(31:44):
it not getting better, but there's no plan to make
it better. There's no plan from Trump, there's no plan
from the Republicans in the House. There's nothing from the
Republicans in the Senate. What are they debating right now
or getting ready to debate, whether we're going to extend
these Obamacare subsidies for three more years, not one year,
not two years, but three years. You me, on the
other hand, we're about to just get totally hosed on

(32:07):
our insurance. But hey, because we go to work every day,
f us right, you'll.

Speaker 3 (32:12):
Just shut up and pay it.

Speaker 2 (32:13):
Nobody's focused on the affordability of the middle class, who's working,
the middle class, who's producing? Those middle class people who
are working and producing are being driven down into the
lower class. Nobody's almost nobody's elevating anymore. It's almost impossible
unless you're gonna work three or four jobs to elevate
your financial position right now. Unless you're in a very

(32:35):
SELCT group of fields and people are like, wait a second, dude,
you are supposed to fix this, and you seem to
be focused on everything but this.

Speaker 1 (32:43):
According to this poll, fifty six percent of Americans say
affordability is their number one priority. You're listening to Kendell
and Case on ninety three WYBC