Kendall & Casey Hour 2, 12-4-2025

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It priced a car lately.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
No, I haven't because I know right now it's not
in the game plan.

Speaker 1 (00:07):
It's isn't that like an interesting thing? Where we're too,
you know, middle middle income people. You're not nearly as
wealthy as I like to joke about. So you're doing great,
but we're too, you know, reasonably successful, middle aged. You
a little more middle aged than me, but middle aged

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people both married, both spouses, working and contributing and have
decent Your husband has somehow managed to figure out a
way to play and do his hobby for a living,
which is himself is amazing. My wife obviously works and
is in a desired field, and like, So my point
is this, we're not, by any means one percenters. We're

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not the tippy top of humanity. But we're also not like,
you know, jumping into trash bins to find furniture or
you know, food scraps. And you and I are having
this conversation about, you know, have you priced to car?
And you and I both have the same opinion on it. No,
because I know I won't be able to be in
the ballpark to afford a new automobile.

Speaker 2 (01:13):
Right, especially a new one.

Speaker 1 (01:14):
Well right or anything. Like my wife and I have
had this conversation for basically a year now about buying
a new car, and I've just you know, anytime there's
something that's wrong with one of our automobiles. I'm not
talking about like some horrific thing happening, but just like
basic you know, repairs or whatever you got to do.
We start pricing out, Okay, if I fix this, how

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long can I then use this car? Is there anything
else with this car? Or is this the thing? And
then how long can I get on that? And then
compare that expense to the cost of purchasing in my
in our world, a new automobile you're right, right, and
what that would cost. And again, it's not some poor,
you know, cry for us story here, but it comes

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back to something we kind of just talked about in
the last segment, the afford to bil of everything. And
then not only are you focused on the purchase of
that thing, but how does the purchasing of that thing
then affect everything else you would like to purchase and
how you prioritize things.

Speaker 3 (02:11):
Well, yesterday Donald Trump, he proposed lowering US fuel economy standards,
and that is a reverse of Joe Biden's rules, and
what this is supposed to do is make it easier
for car makers to continue selling gasoline powered cars. Trump
says that people want the gasoline car, not an ev.

Speaker 1 (02:32):
Oh that's a good thing, right. I mean, I think
unless you're some environmental person, I think who your whole
focus is on no emissions whatsoever. You or those type
of people, you say, look, gasoline now, it's coming down
because of the constriction of the economy. I mean, the

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people are like, I got gas for two twenty nine
today and I was like, I don't remember the last
time I got gas. I think COVID it got under
two dollars. I think I remember during COVID at one point,
pre Ukraine, it got in the you know, when nobody
was we were the only people working, and it was

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under two dollars. So, I mean, whatever, that's been five
years and you're thinking, Okay. I was like, I'm sitting
there at the gas pump this morning as I'm watching
the because I was down to now, are you a
person when you fill your car up? Are you like
so my grandparents were this way or as soon as
the thing would get to a half a tank, we
must fill our car back.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
Oh no, no, I let it get down.

Speaker 1 (03:35):
And I would always ask this. I would say, I.

Speaker 2 (03:36):
Wait until the alert comes on.

Speaker 1 (03:38):
You too, drive a max of five miles every day
and have for the past twenty years. How could you
possibly be worried about running out of gas? Well, you
just never know, So you are you are like me.
You are drain the tank and then fill it back up.

Speaker 3 (03:52):
Yeah, I wait until the little gasoline light comes on.
I go, okay, yeah, I like to.

Speaker 1 (03:56):
Do that because it allows me to compare, for one
fill up to the next, how gases declined or increased
in price. And so I'm sitting there this morning filling
my gas tank up at two twenty nine, and I'm
watching the thing move and I think it was like,
you know, cause I have that little golf cart car.
So it was about nineteen dollars and I almost had

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an empty tank to fill out my tank, and I thought,
then you shad go man, that's awesome. But then I
was sitting there going, but that's because of the restricting economy, Like, Okay,
you're getting a benefit here in terms of gases cheaper,
but we're going to all pay for this because of
the condition of the of the economics of the country.
And obviously we're in a business. We're advertising is key

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and we need businesses to thrive. And so it's just
this just ever depressing balancing act of any time you're like, yay,
that's something in my direction, then you're like.

Speaker 3 (04:50):
Oh, you probably don't have the counter on your car
where it says you've got thirty five miles until empty.

Speaker 1 (04:56):
Oh I do, Oh you do? Oh yeah, that's the
one thing I do have on that car. It surprises me.

Speaker 2 (05:01):
I don't even have that on my vehicle.

Speaker 1 (05:02):
No wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, you you don't
have a thing that tells you how many gallons of
gas or yeah, what miles?

Speaker 3 (05:10):
Five miles?

Speaker 2 (05:10):
Yeah, not that I'm aware of. I don't believe I do.

Speaker 1 (05:13):
Now. My wife and I got into this on Thanksgiving
because we were coming back from her grandmother's house and
you know, whether it wasn't great on Thanksgiving. So I'm thinking,
you know, if I can just make it home, like
I knew when I started how long how long it
took to get there and get back. And I looked
at it when I started, and I should be able
to make this. And so when I was coming home,
I got on seventy four off four sixty five and

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there was fifteen miles left on the thing, and I'm like, man,
this is going to be cutting it close. My wife
has a nicer car than I.

Speaker 2 (05:42):
Roll the dice.

Speaker 1 (05:42):
Uh yeah, it's and so it uses more gas. And
she goes, we get off the exit to get to Browns,
brog out the Ronald Reagan and there's like four miles
left on the thing, and she goes, it's fine. When
it hit zero, you still have a couple of miles left.
In the course of me with the OCD, I'm like
freaking out about this. It said zero when I pulled
into the gas station, it had zero miles.

Speaker 3 (06:02):
Right.

Speaker 1 (06:03):
She's like, I told you you would vac it.

Speaker 2 (06:05):
Uh huh, she was right.

Speaker 3 (06:06):
Yeah, you've got to roll the dice sometimes, or you're
sitting there doing the math. Okay, it says thirty five
miles till empty. We're thirty four miles from the gas station.
We're you gonna get there.

Speaker 1 (06:18):
I think anything that makes living more affordable at this
point is probably I'm going to get a thumbs up
for me because I've been hearing the earth what I mean,
al Gore had the Earth. What was that the remember
he had the big concert which was supposed to be
live Aid two point zero or whatever, but it was
for the environment. That was in like twenty five, two

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thousand and five or six, and we were told polar
bears were going to be floating down Indiana Avenue. And
everything still appears pretty good in society, kind of moving.
The First Earth Day, what going on fifty is years
ago now was about the global cooling. These people, these
environmental people, changed their mind as often as they changed
their underwear. I'm I'm on board with this because if

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you can make one the cost of the automoive, I mean,
that's going to make the cost of the automobile more affordable.
I'm on board with that. Right.

Speaker 3 (07:11):
It's going to reduce the upfront vehicle prices by about
nine hundred and thirty dollars on average, Right.

Speaker 1 (07:15):
And that'll obviously trickle down and people buy and resell
and everything else. And then just the ease of driving,
let's face it, the electric vehicle. Look, if you're a
person who doesn't drive a whole lot, and you just
drive in major metropolitan areas and you can afford the
cost of the car, maybe that works great for you,
but for regular people, especially people who do any sort
of traveling, it's just not it's not feasible that, you know,

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every two hundred or two hundred and fifty miles or
whatever it is, you got to pull over to some
sort of charging station and sit there and watch the
grass grow.

Speaker 3 (07:47):
So Donald Trump's rule change on this it could save
automakers about thirty five billion dollars through the year twenty
thirty one. GM says that it will save them about
eight point seven billion dollars forward over five five billion,
which would reduce the upfront vehicle price for you the consumer.
My brother has a theory on this. He's long said

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that you don't need a new car as often as
people get them, and it's all marketing.

Speaker 1 (08:13):
Oh totally.

Speaker 3 (08:14):
I mean, like people see the commercials and they think, oh, yeah,
I need a new vehicle. You know.

Speaker 1 (08:19):
I saw this years ago. I think it was actually
a documentary of all things on Bruce Springsteen because he
wrote so much about cars, right, cars are such a
integral part because he was a car guy, and the
idea of the car for young people is the idea
of getting out and getting free and being able to
move and the things that he was exploring, certainly in

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the early music. And so they were talking about the
idea of the car, and then they got on there's
been years ago that I saw this. Can't even tell
you which what it was, but they were talking about
they got into the idea of how differently people view cars,
Like there is car guy, right, who is just lives
in that world, and then there's people like me, no

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power locks, no power windows. Can it get me from
point A to point B? And what is the most
efficient way of doing it? I had to take my
mother to the doctor the other day and the whole
time she's got like white knuckled hands on the quick.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
So you're driving her the vehicle.

Speaker 1 (09:18):
This car is not safe for travel. It'll be fine, Mom,
It'll be fine. They drive yourself.

Speaker 3 (09:24):
Then, So a couple other things that this initiative by
Donald Trump does. It ends the ev tax credits, and
it blocks California. You've been hearing how California said, you know,
we're going to ban all gas powered cars by the
year twenty thirty five. Well, this puts an end to that.
And of course Gavin Newsom, he's not a fan. He
was very critical of the plan, and he says that

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it's going to force Americans to spend more on gas
and also worsen air pollution.

Speaker 1 (09:51):
Uh, all right, let's take a break. What do you
want to do next?

Speaker 3 (09:54):
So twenty twenty five coming to an end, and that
means that our online lives are being wrapped up all
of the what unwrapped?

Speaker 1 (10:07):
Huh?

Speaker 3 (10:07):
Spotify telling you how many songs you listened to, YouTube
telling you how many videos you've viewed. Oh yes, and
now Google telling you what your top AI search was.
We'll talk about that coming up. It's Kennelly Casey. It's
ninety three WYBC.

Speaker 1 (10:23):
Me me and let me hear your song, let me things?

Speaker 3 (10:26):
Okay, come on out, Ben, it's a shining song and
stuff Romeo's tune.

Speaker 1 (10:33):
You know Hammers saw you know when Hammer used to
work for the casino by it's Kenelly Casey showing Rob.
That's Casey. You know Hammer used to work at the
casino and Hammer. I think part of what his deal
was is he had to book the musical acts the
casino and he books Steve Forbert did he really know?
And he said there were like five people that showed up.

Speaker 3 (10:50):
Oh I would have been one of them. That was
one of my songs on my Spotify rapped, which lists
my overall listening habits for twenty twenty five.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
Okay, so before we get to that, I've long wondered
this about this. So like Steve for Bear, like Bertie Higgins,
who is the key Largo guy, Rupert Holmes Escape, there's
all of these dudes sort of in the same period
of time, like late seventies, early eighties. Some of it's
almost I don't know if Steve for Bear is technically
yacht rock, but it's sort of that softer late seventies

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early eighties rock sound. And they had one monumental hit
and then that's it. So when you go see these
guys in concert, because many of them are still that
are still with us, are still out, you know, playing
various events, what do they do for the rest of
the time? Yeah, like, what do you play it again?
I mean, Rupert Holmes did that Answering Machine song, which

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was at least was you know, it wasn't a huge
hit or memorable, but it was top forty. So you go, Okay,
if you're a certain age, I might remember that one.
But the rest of those guys, what does Bertie Higgins
do a thirty three minute version of Key Largo. Like,
what does that show even look like?

Speaker 2 (11:59):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (12:00):
Well he plays his other songs that you just don't know,
or cover cover other songs that happens as well.

Speaker 1 (12:07):
Anyway, go ahead, sorry.

Speaker 2 (12:08):
Well, as twenty twenty five.

Speaker 3 (12:10):
Comes to an end, a lot of apps are now
releasing their annual recaps.

Speaker 2 (12:14):
And what that does is that shows you.

Speaker 3 (12:16):
Your top music, your top videos, your top searches.

Speaker 2 (12:19):
All of those things.

Speaker 3 (12:20):
So Spotify began doing this and it shows your top songs,
your top artists.

Speaker 2 (12:27):
So I thought I'd share some of mine.

Speaker 1 (12:28):
Also, how excite?

Speaker 3 (12:29):
Now?

Speaker 1 (12:29):
This is what? So every time you play something, that
tracks it and puts it in a little data base somewhere.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
Yep, and then spits it out at the end of
the year.

Speaker 3 (12:38):
Okay, So I've listened to five thousand, seven hundred and
seventy minutes worth of music. That's four days solid of music.
That doesn't seem like a lot.

Speaker 1 (12:47):
So at the course of the year, if you took
all your music listening and put them together, you'd listen
to four days of music. Okay, So you lost four days.
It's like how many days out of the year, do
you work to pay your taxes? And there's always the day, right,
this is your independence day? Right, Okay, got it.

Speaker 3 (13:00):
I listened to one hundred and nine different genres of music.
My top genres of music, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (13:06):
There is not one hundred and nine of music, that's
what they said.

Speaker 2 (13:10):
Tastes like mine can't be defined. That's what the that's
what they told me. My top genres were.

Speaker 3 (13:16):
Southern rock, hop rock, okay, pop, country, oldies, and then alternative.

Speaker 2 (13:21):
And they give you your.

Speaker 3 (13:23):
Listening age based on the type of music.

Speaker 1 (13:27):
Okay, so like to explain this. People like Casey is
sixty four years old and hestening.

Speaker 3 (13:36):
My listening age is close to that, though, what they
say based on the music that I choose, I'm sixty six.

Speaker 1 (13:42):
Okay, all right.

Speaker 3 (13:44):
I listened to five hundred and seventy four songs this year,
and my number one song was not Romeo's Tune, although
that was in the top five. My number one song
was this.

Speaker 1 (14:09):
Rambling Man, gambling.

Speaker 2 (14:11):
Man, Rambling gambling Man from Bob Seger.

Speaker 1 (14:13):
Yeah, you love Bob Seger.

Speaker 2 (14:16):
I do. I do like his music.

Speaker 1 (14:17):
I would have thought if I had a Bob Seger
song for you, like to find you roll me.

Speaker 2 (14:23):
Away, roll me Away or main street.

Speaker 1 (14:26):
Or getting on the getting on the motorbike.

Speaker 3 (14:27):
And you'll accompany me across the serious roll me Away
it was number four on this so you're you were
very close.

Speaker 1 (14:34):
It's kind of creepy. They keep track of everything. It is.

Speaker 3 (14:37):
YouTube does it as well. You can see your watch history.
Apple Music Replay is doing it. Amazon Music is doing it.
Google Year in Search. This highlights the top trending global
and country specific search topics. And they have a new
feature it's called a I mode, and Google will will

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note your your search history from AI.

Speaker 2 (15:05):
Things that you asked.

Speaker 1 (15:07):
AI, oh like if I yeah, okay, like whatever you
put into the little.

Speaker 2 (15:12):
Prompt it's tracking that.

Speaker 3 (15:15):
So the top artist of the year according to Spotify
was Bad Bunny. He was the most stream global artist
of twenty twenty five with nineteen point eight billion streams. Now,
this is the guy who's set to headline the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 (15:30):
So like nineteen point eight billion times somebody played one
of his correct songs. Now that doesn't mean different people. Obviously,
there's not even that many people on the planet Earth.
But what is there eight billion people on the planet,
So it's basically two and a half plays a person
or something like that. It's pretty good, Yeah, pretty strong.

Speaker 3 (15:48):
The most stream artists in the United States were Taylor Swift,
Drake Morgan Wallen, Kendrick Lamar, and.

Speaker 2 (15:55):
Then Bad Bunny as well. The top podcast was The
Joe Rogan Experience.

Speaker 1 (16:01):
Again number one for rets cav that's your guy, you're
in a row, You're with the people.

Speaker 3 (16:05):
Of course, that was probably pushed on by that hugely
popular interview he did with Donald Trump.

Speaker 1 (16:11):
And you know what Donald Trump was last year, wasn't it?
That was last year he did that interview with Trump.
The Tad interview was last year, wasn't it. It was
when he was running for election. Yes, yeah, that was
last year, wasn't it? Or did he go on again?

Speaker 2 (16:26):
No, you're right, it was last year. It was the
end of the year.

Speaker 1 (16:28):
Yeah, because he was that's what he was talking Tad,
right he died, Yes, we know, yes, he Lincoln was
that depression. They didn't call it depression. He was called melancholy.
And I told you about Tad, remember that, like he
got that was one of the most amazing things ever.
So there's all this hype about Rogan and Trump, and

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you know, Rogan's trying to set the thing up, and
he's asking him about like when you first went in
the White House, and Trump goes on this just thingots
and credible, like I mean, I was saying, like your
mouth will drop open in amazement if you have never
heard this. Trump goes on this thing about the Lincoln
bedroom and he's not saying, you know, the magnitude of
knowing Abraham Lincoln was here and knowing, you know, one

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of our great leaders. And he goes on this thing
about this picture of Tad Lincoln, which is still Lincoln's
son who died young, and he goes on this just
like I don't know. It seemed like it was multiple
minutes trying to explain to Joe Rogan, who is a
bit of a historian, pretty well versed guy, probably does
know the basics of the Lincoln story, which Tad Lincoln

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is a pretty prominent part, And he's telling Rogan like
he doesn't know because so he wouldn't know anything about that.
And then Trump will always do this where some basic
piece of information he'll tell you it as the boy,
do I have a story for you?

Speaker 3 (17:47):
And he just goes on, you might not know this
on and on and on and on and yeah, well
Joe Rogan was the number one podcast once again this year.

Speaker 2 (17:55):
You're listening to Kendilly Casey. It is ninety three WYBC.

Speaker 1 (18:04):
I saw Eddie Money one time with the Fisher's Nickel
played Amphitheater and after every song this is no joke,
he would shout that one was for the troops. Well,
good for him, Chris stuff. It's kind of a Casey
John Rob, that's Casey. Let's have a talk about this
conversation I had. I talked about it yesterday and we
just ran out of time and get a chance to

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get to it. But I had a very interesting conversation
with a person. You know who this person is for
the and I told Casey about it just so she
could back. And we will not say who the person
is because it's a very esteemed member of the political conversation,
not a politician him or herself, but somebody was very
connected into the landscape, and so I told Casey who

(18:47):
it was so she would be able to verify this
is not just one of Rob's wacky friends that he
had this conversation with. So you you will as the
voice of reason and not honestly connected. Yeah, integrity, say,
this is not like a far writer left loon. This
is not a person who is overly braggadocious. This is
not a person who says crazy things for attention. Correct. Okay,

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So I talked to this person. We talked about a
wide variety of things the other day for about an hour,
and people would not believe the conversations that I have
and who I have them with.

Speaker 2 (19:18):
Now reach out to you.

Speaker 1 (19:19):
Yeah, it's very interesting. But anyway, we talked about a
whole group of things, and one of the things, you know,
he's obviously, like many other people, regular listener of this program.
And I said, you know, one of the things that
I really struggle with is that our show in my
time here has been the same for nine years. Our

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show has been the same for four years. Like, we
talk about the same stuff, we hold firm to the
same stuff, We hold the same set of beliefs and
ideals and views of government and how it should operate.
And yet when we do it with Democrats, so for
the years Biden was president, Hey, that's great, call those

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guys out and everybody's on board. But then when we
apply the same principles, now whether it is Trump, or
it is the Republicans who control everything in Indiana or
certain elected Republicans. People then sometimes will get angry at.

Speaker 2 (20:20):
Us because we're not cheerleading.

Speaker 1 (20:22):
Right, We're spousing the same views, and we're pointing out
to you, here's how these people are not living up
to the bargain that they've made with you, how they're
not following through, and how it's letting you down. And
I said, I struggle because it seems like at times,
no matter what evidence or what information, and then we
put in front of people and apply those same principles,

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and I do the same name calling with everyone. I
hold up people are the same standards. It's not like
I didn't do with the Democrats. We certainly did it
with Biden and Hogs and blah blah blah. And I said,
but people just it's like they put up a wall
and it won't matter what you tell them or show them.
You're the bad guy for saying it.

Speaker 2 (21:04):
It's fine when you do it to the enemy, but
you can't do it to my guy.

Speaker 1 (21:09):
Right, And like I told him, I said, I just
have struggled to get through to this to people. And
he said, Rob, this is the best example that I
can give you, he said, remember when Bob Knight was
the coach of Indiana basketball. And I said, sure, absolutely.
You know, I grew up a huge IU fan, and
you know, ended up getting a degree from IU. And

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and he said, remember all the stuff that Night did.
And every time night, whether it's you know, the throwing
the plant or sticking the soiled toilet paper or putting
the cop in the trash can, or you know, whatever
the things he was accused of doing, there would everybody
would just rush to his defense until the very end,

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including when, on camera, without debate discussion, he's seen choking
a kid, right, Like it was like the zapprofilm when
Knight was seen putting his hands around Neil Reid's throat,
like the guy moves back violently. There's not there's not
any doubt what took place. But even when that happened,

(22:12):
people would rush to Bob Knight's defense. Well, you know,
blah blah blah. Right, And he said people did that
because they had become so emotionally invested in him and
the idea of eye you basketball, like it had become
such a part of their lives, and he was such
a part of their life as though he was a
member of the family. That anybody who would point anything

(22:34):
out about this guy, know, how matter how egregious, the
behavior was insulting a member of their family.

Speaker 2 (22:41):
Because it's part of their personality.

Speaker 1 (22:43):
And he said, that's what you do when you hold
Trump to the same account you held Biden, or you
hold Micah or Diego to the same account that you
hold the Democrats. Because your audience tends to be more conservative,
they look at it as you are indicting you. You
are impuning them. You are insulting a member of our family,
and so by default you're insulting us. And while in

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our deepest of deeps, we know you're right, which is
why we tune in right always here, we're not listening
to that guy anymore. We're done so with them, I
don't tune in anymore. And then they're talking about things
we specifically said. The reason that publicly they will go
at you is because they feel slighted because even though
you're not going at them in any shape, form or fashion,

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they've invested something in these people, and they can't accept
that they might have made a mistake, that there could
be something about these people that is worth criticizing, because
then you're criticizing them, right.

Speaker 3 (23:38):
It's not wanting to admit that they're not infallible and
that there may be an issue.

Speaker 2 (23:46):
It's like the truth hurts.

Speaker 1 (23:47):
Yeah. And so I was talking to another guy who's
very well connected in the state House yesterday about that,
and I said, is that is that accuracayd before I
go in front of fifty thousand people and make that analogy?
And he said yes, he said one of the things.
And this is the same guy who told me that.
He said, one of the things the lessons of COVID
to the politicians was we can do whatever we want
and people really won't do anything about it. Look at

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the brazenness of the government in a post COVID world,
because with the politicians figured out, I'm talking your local officials,
I'm talking your state officials to certainly talking to the
federal officials. We shut the society down. We put you
out of a job, we closed your business, We forced
you to wear a mask. We humiliated and shame people
into getting shots they didn't want to get. What did

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we really do as a society. We didn't do anything
about it, And that's always stuck with me, and if
you look at the behavior of government in a post
COVID world, it certainly plays out. But one of the
things this guy said when I was telling him about
this is he said, another thing that COVID did was
because everything got shut down, the only thing that kind
of still existed was politics. I mean think about you know,

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sports was closed, schools got closed, like all of these
things that gave us a sense of connection totally got
wiped away for certainly a period of months, and then
even during various openings, most things weren't normal. And so
people because the only thing that they could find some
semblance of connection in was politics because it existed, and

(25:10):
people were so on different sides of the issue, he said,
people more than ever, and some people who had never
been before got into that same position of getting completely
invested in people and how they presented themselves. And now
more than ever before, you if fewer and fewer people
who are willing to go you know what, He's right, Yeah,
that may be my team, but they're not holding up

(25:31):
there into the bargain. And so I just thought there
was Those were a fascinating couple sets of conversations about
who we are, how people view things, And I don't
know as hearing that, because I think they're right on
those things. Until we start looking in the mirror and
seeing ourselves and holding ourselves accountable, our own team accountable,
we're never going to get it from the Democrats. The

(25:53):
Democrats are a lost cause. The only opportunity to actually
fix this stuff is with the Republicans, but not if
we won't hold these people accountable when they do things
that are ridiculous.

Speaker 3 (26:04):
With so many people are forced to vote, Maybe they
don't like everything the Republicans are doing, but the other.

Speaker 2 (26:11):
Option is wholly worse. Yeah, and they're not going to
go there. And you do wonder, So it's like the
lesser of two evils.

Speaker 1 (26:18):
You do wonder what the Democrats how they so lost
their power structure, so lost control of the process that
now they can't get it back. Like if you're bow bye.
And I told him this to his face, and I
don't think he disputes it. I think even told it
to him on air. You're not running against Diego, You're

(26:39):
I mean, I mean you.

Speaker 2 (26:40):
Are, I mean you are against an entire system.

Speaker 1 (26:42):
Yeah, you're running against your own party that is perceived
by people as lunatics who while you may be a
decent guy, I think Evan By. I've never met Evan By,
but I think if you probably sat down with him,
I mean, is he a politician? Of course, right, you
don't rise the level of senator and governor and whatever
without being a politician. But is Evan By an extreme radic, No,
of course not. Is bo By an extreme radical? No,
of course not. Would Bobai, who clearly aspires to be

(27:04):
a politician and probably like his father, become governor, probably
be a pretty moderate, down the road middle secretary of state. Yeah,
because he doesn't want to alienate the people he knows
he'd need to get elected. So that's why I'm not
worried about him being secretary. I got the d next
to exactly right, and he's got to deal with the
crazy people. And so what I wonder, I do wonder
how and why the Democrat power structure allowed that cabal

(27:30):
of crazy to take over the whole party to where
you can't win elections even with good candidates because people
associate you with them.

Speaker 3 (27:40):
Well, it's polarization on both sides though, because you have
the extreme on the Democrat side, and then you have
the extreme on the Republican side as well. But then
whereas if you say anything like you just say, if
you say anything negative about my party, you're out.

Speaker 1 (27:57):
Yeah. But in terms of like Thuon, So let's think
John Thune is the Republican leader in the Senate, and Schumer,
who's the Democrat leader in the Senate. Schumer did something
ridiculously stupid that is crushing him in the Democrats with
the government shutdown. He got nothing out of it, right,
He did that to capitulate to a bunch of insane people,
and it looked horrible for him, whereas Thuon is just like, yeah,

(28:21):
we're gonna keep spending the money to the Conservatives. We're
doing what we want to do. The Republicans seem to
ignore their base on the regular and the power structure
sort of remains in bounce. Let's face it. You can
say whatever you want about Trump in terms of persona,
but his actual governance is very mainstream Republican. Spend spend, spend,
big debts, you know, tax cuts, but they're not paid for.

(28:41):
You know. His actual governance is robust, military, pretty mainstream Republican.
The Democrats, their leadership lost all semblance of control and
now they can't get it back.

Speaker 2 (28:52):
Well, they're losing credibility.

Speaker 3 (28:54):
Every single day though, is more and more stuff comes
out about all of the ways fraud and abuse that
has happened within that party on every level.

Speaker 1 (29:02):
So anyway, like my challenge to people would be, take
my personality out of it, right, challenge yourself. You don't
have to like me, but for your own benefit when
people are doing these politicians are doing things that are
clearly for themselves, that are clearly to benefit them or
their donors or the lobbyists that they hang out with

(29:24):
at the expense of you call it out. It doesn't
make you a bad family member. If you've got a
family member that's got a vice or is not working
or whatever, to look at them and go, hey, I
love you, you're not living the right way. You got to
get it together. That doesn't make you less than or
it doesn't make you an outcast. It makes you actually

(29:44):
a really good family member. And until we start doing that,
you don't have to do it as colorfully as.

Speaker 2 (29:49):
We do some flowery language.

Speaker 1 (29:52):
We do that so it'll hit home, so it'll stay
in people's minds. We're not going to fix any of
this because the Republicans are the only.

Speaker 3 (29:58):
Hope you're listening to Kendell in casey it is ninety
three WYBC.

Speaker 1 (30:06):
Boy, that's that's a lot of points. It's a lot
of points, a lot of points. Jason Hammer when half
of the Hammer and Nigel Afternoon Experiences here, Hello, it's
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Speaker 4 (30:28):
Right, the college football one where we give our plays
on IU and Ohio State, Bama and Georgia. That's already
out there anyway to get your podcasts. The Degenerates next
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I believe I'm in first place, drops later on today.
Now here's the kind of thing we're looking at so tonight,

(30:52):
because I always get stuck picking the Thursday that's right.

Speaker 1 (30:54):
Oh yeah, Like the Monday has been a real treat
this year, which is what I get.

Speaker 4 (30:58):
I've actually been pretty good on Thursday nine and a
four on Thursday night games. Prop bets have been a disaster,
but the game itself, we've had a good run on Thursday.
So I got to play tonight. But look at the
over under, the total points total for tonight's Lions and
Cowboys game and compare that to Sunday's heavyweight fight between

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the Browns and the Titans.

Speaker 1 (31:20):
Yeah, so you got fifty four and a half for
the for the Lions and the Cowboys to night, which
will be a rare, good Thursday night game.

Speaker 4 (31:28):
Right with the quarterbacks, good teams. Cowboys are playing really
good ball.

Speaker 1 (31:32):
And I've got the Cowboys on that flyer. I took
it sixty five to one to start the year to
win the Super Bowl, so we're all we're team Cowboys night.
And then yes, so that's fifty four and a half
the Browns and the Titans. Casey, would you like to
take a guess on what the number is the over
under total points two points in the game Browns and Titans.

Speaker 2 (31:47):
And Titans, it's got to be low, right.

Speaker 1 (31:50):
Thirty eight you'd be very high and be out of
the showcase showdown. Really thirty three and a half? Okay,
twenty one two?

Speaker 4 (31:58):
So Lions and Cowboys compared to Browns versus Titans, it's
a twenty one point swing, that's right, that game is
so bad, Like, you've got to be a die hard
super fan to sit outside in the freezing cold to
watch the Browns and the Titans.

Speaker 1 (32:15):
Yeah, what's the worst weather you've ever sat in to
watch a sporting event? Oh?

Speaker 4 (32:20):
It was a baseball game, believe it or not. So
the year after the Cubs had won the World Series,
the Banner Championship game at Wrigleyfield. It was a night
game against the Dodgers. It had been delayed by rain.
Now in Chicago in late March early April. It's still
cold now, factoring a freezing cold rain, but we stuck

(32:42):
around because we want to see the banner get unfurled.
The game didn't start till like ten o'clock. I was
freezing my you know what's off? It was brutal outside.

Speaker 3 (32:51):
I've been doing an opening game at Wrigley and I
was in a parka and it was snowing.

Speaker 4 (32:56):
Cold and wet is a bad combination. Like it was
raining and it was freezing cold.

Speaker 1 (33:01):
It was just miserable. Is is that the worst weather
event you've ever been to? Oh?

Speaker 2 (33:06):
No, not even close.

Speaker 3 (33:07):
Really, Yeah, no, it was a Notre Dame Army game
that happened in November, Oh lizard, Oh yeah, freezing toes
were I mean, it was miserable.

Speaker 2 (33:18):
What about you?

Speaker 1 (33:18):
You don't ever go anywhere?

Speaker 4 (33:19):
Have you ever been outside the bad weather?

Speaker 1 (33:21):
Gome? I was okay, he was in his living room.

Speaker 3 (33:24):
No.

Speaker 1 (33:27):
I remember this definitively. I was. I was a decent
athlete as a kid, and then it just didn't grow.
And then you can't be five eight and one hundred
and fifty five pounds and do anything with your life.
But when I was junior football in the playoffs, it
was a mud bowl, and I remember this game for
this reason. The team we were playing was the playoffs,
right like we were the top team and it was

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the other top team. And this was like the the
big game. And the coach the other team because in
junior football the benches are right next to each other,
and you go to school with these kids right right,
they're your friends. And the coach has the team start
doing the other team start doing the will we will
rock you, except the end of it was we will
beat you, cleat you, totally defeat you. And I was like,

(34:10):
that seems a bit harsh in my direction.

Speaker 4 (34:12):
You're not going to cleat me, I promise you that
right now?

Speaker 1 (34:14):
Like what it like? That? And telling young children to
cleat their opponent who they go to school with, seemed
a bit extreme, even an eight or nine years old.
But the weather was bad that like a horrible mud bull. Yeah.
I was just anxious to get it was there somewhat
warm though, because I could play in the It's a
little warm, but horrible, okay, horrible. I once had a
coach to get thrown out of a game for saying
that we should get our nit needles out because they

(34:35):
called a penalty on one of us. That was great.
They threw them out of there and said, you're being
bad sportsmen. He said, you're being a bad ref. I
think I.

Speaker 4 (34:41):
Could deal with being cold, but cold and wet, yeah,
Like my final high school football game ever was a
sectional game, freezing sleet rain. Like you go outside, you're warm,
and you sit down and do the stretches.

Speaker 1 (34:53):
Oh no, you have to get an extra large helmet.

Speaker 4 (34:58):
Do you have to buy your shirts at the children's section?

Speaker 1 (35:03):
What's coming up to you?

Speaker 4 (35:04):
Wish you were this then, Tubby? Yeah, I wish I
had those size of hands.

Speaker 1 (35:07):
You're right this afternoon, Rob's.

Speaker 4 (35:10):
Gonna combine and go off the rail Sinue. This we'll
make fun of his small hands and everything else this afternoon.

Speaker 2 (35:16):
Thank you.

Speaker 3 (35:17):
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