Kendall & Casey Hour 2, 12-5-2025

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Okay, so I guess we're done with the California did it,
so we have to do it thing. Right?

Speaker 2 (00:05):
Do you say that because the Supreme Court voted in
favor of Texas's redistrict maps.

Speaker 1 (00:10):
Yeah, that's correct. So California is getting five, Texas is
getting five. So one of our arguments that the little
get together they're going to have down the street from
us in a little bit, that's out the window. Right,
We can't talk about California because California's was in redistricting
was in response one hundred percent. You can hate California
all you want, and you probably should. They're rotten, but

(00:32):
they're redistricting was one hundred percent done in response to
the Texas legislature going first, So they're probably going to
get five. Texas is going to get five. That's a wash.
Now we've got to find some other boogieman to blame, right,
I mean, am I unreasonable by saying that for the
need to put Jennifer Ruth Green in the US Congress?

Speaker 2 (00:51):
Well, and they also said that Florida is going to
redistrict and possibly Virginia, so this isn't necessarily resting on
the shoulders of Indiana.

Speaker 3 (00:58):
Anymore.

Speaker 1 (00:59):
Well, no, no, no, You've North Carolina, which is going to
net a Republican seat. Ohio has already done theirs. They
will probably net at least one, maybe two Republican seats.
You've got Missouri who's done it, who will net a
Republican seed. And so I'm just doing my public school math,
that seems like four or five more Republican seats. Now, yes,
Virginia's pondering doing it. They will pick up one. But

(01:23):
this whole well, we have to do it because someone
else did it. That doesn't really fly. And again we're
just admitting on all of this that the representation doesn't matter.
Working for you isn't a thing. This is about boosting
political parties. That's it. The idea of a representative, And

(01:44):
this is one of the things that just infuriates me
about this. When our founders set up this country, it
was a brilliant, brilliant system, and by design, the Senate
are the elitists, right, They're the tippy top people. That's
why their terms are six years, it's why they cover
the entire state. So just the long view of things,
the representative is supposed to do, just that represent like

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minded communities of interest. That's the whole premise of it.
So it's called a representative. It was to take smaller
pockets of people who have shared interest who aren't going
to get that same representation from the United States Senate,
and have individuals who go in there and fight for them.
You look at these maps and you have multiple districts

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that will stretch from Indianapolis to corners of the state,
in which those corners of the state have little, if
any geographical industry wise.

Speaker 3 (02:41):
All of these things economic commonality, right.

Speaker 1 (02:44):
Yes, economic commonality, yes, thank you, time zones with the
people of Indianapolis. And we're supposed to believe that our
representatives that are to go in there and fight for
all these people at the same time, they can't do that.
You're going to get much worse as bad as our
representation is right now, well, it's going to get much
worse if these maps pass.

Speaker 2 (03:05):
So it's now being reported that some top GOP officials
have admitted that they're too scared to say anything against
redistricting because it could get them kicked off of the
state Central Committee, where the positions are determined by the district.

Speaker 1 (03:19):
Well, isn't it interesting that this rally, this rally today,
the state party, Republican Party, has said a word about it.
It's all turning point USA. I haven't seen anything from
the State Republican Party about any of this. And again
it comes back to if we now admit, which they

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have admitted by the way they legally had to admit.
It's why they admitted it that this is all political,
it's all about boosting the Republican Party. My question back
to you is to say, what have the Republicans done
for you? Don't even take the past year. Let's take
the past twenty five years. Who's added the most debt
to the nation. The Republicans, right, The spending, the crony capitalism,

(04:05):
the Democrats are bad, not disputing that, but if this
is all about putting more of one group of people
in power in the state of Indiana or Texas have
never been higher under the Republicans. Spending has never been
greater under the Republicans see Indiana Economic Development Corporation. The
corruption and crony capitalism has never been greater under the Republicans.
What are you so excited about that you think that

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rigging these maps, as they've now publicly admitted, which is
all about you are last, they are first. The maps
are being changed to help the Republican Party full stop,
not help you, not anything to do with anything that's
going to better you. What have they done to warrant
you going? Oh yeah, And we already know who the

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candidate's going to be. It's going to be this totally corrupt,
unethical Jennifer Ruth Green, or at least that's who they
want it to be. The Golden Child who was so unethical,
I mean, Tony so Prano saw her and was like, whoa,
you better put the brakes on their lady that in
eight months she got run out of a cushy two
hundred and seventy five thousand dollars taxpayer funded job. What

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about any of this? Do you say, if you're a
logical thinking person, this is going to be so much
better for me.

Speaker 2 (05:17):
Well, the House is having their final reading of the
amendments today. There were twenty one amendments, by the way,
and then they're going to vote. But yesterday Ed Delaney
said something which I thought was very curious.

Speaker 1 (05:29):
The Democrats are amazing. I had lunch yesterday and I
will totally not name this person with a very prominent
influential Democrat, not not a politician, but someone who is
very influential in the Democrat party. And we talked for
probably an hour and a half and we don't agree
on a lot of things, but you know, it was

(05:50):
interesting just the back and forth. And one of the
things I told him and this person agreed, I said,
your biggest obstacle and we were talking about, look, the
only hope for the Democrats is that bo Bi gets
it together next year. He's the last hope for the
Democrats that if he can win that Secretary of State's race,
because Diego is so unethical and corrupt and whatever gets

(06:10):
exposed about that, that they can somehow put the band
back together. I said, your your biggest problem is that
Boba's going to have to overcome the insanity and just
the utter stupidity in which you guys not only snatch
defeat from the jaws of victory, but somehow managed to
take your own foot and stick it in your own

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mouth and kick yourself in the face repeatedly. And this
person didn't even disputes, No, you're you're right right. I mean,
like there is, the Democrats are their own worst enemy.
They can't just get out of the way. They can't
just be like, if this is going to fail, let
it fail and let them take the blame. They always
have to be the weirdos in the room. And I
like Ed Delaney. You've been on our show numerous times.

(06:50):
He is one of the more normal ones. He is
one of the more rational ones. But again he did
it yesterday. It's even the ones you don't expect. What
the hell is this Casey.

Speaker 4 (06:59):
Thought about one thing. I mean, didn't think about trade economics,
didn't think about voting trends, didn't think about our regions,
think about rivers are like, didn't think about anything except
one thing. That's quite a miracle.

Speaker 3 (07:16):
It used to be the other way. When I was
in school.

Speaker 4 (07:18):
This teacher who said, Delaney, you're supposed to be thinking
about history, could you not think about sex for just
ten minutes?

Speaker 1 (07:26):
I never got there.

Speaker 4 (07:28):
It didn't work.

Speaker 1 (07:30):
Okay, why would he bring meno? Okay? So a bunch
of people sent this to me, and I'm like, okay,
first of all, honest, we always say when honesty Okay.
Second of all, I'm the wrong guy to be pitching
that too, because from about about the age of sixteen on,
it was about how to notice girl, how to get
girls to notice me. And I'm not going to be like, well,

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like it said, even what he said, like, everybody knows
what he was saying, right, Like, that's what dudes do, right,
that's what straight men do for the time they're fourteen fifteen,
whatever they're thinking about girls. That's it. I think that's
what he was saying, right, But that is the total
wrong time.

Speaker 3 (08:09):
It's not the place to be saying that.

Speaker 1 (08:12):
What does that happen?

Speaker 3 (08:14):
Halt themselves?

Speaker 1 (08:15):
Yeah, So you take something that is at least with
the public at large, which is in your favor, which
Paul after Politro Bowl shows the public is against redistricting
in this state, including by Republican pollsters, and you take
the attention off of that, and now it's, well, there's
another Democrat weirdo Gee, maybe we shouldn't bring these maps
because these people are so weird.

Speaker 2 (08:33):
Exactly, He's like winning the argument. So the Democrats speaking
of them. They were supposed to be having a rally,
an anti redistricting rally on Monday, and it was going
to feature a former US senator Ambassador to the Holy See,
Joe Donnley. But I just got a note now the
saying they're not holding that rally as planned, Well.

Speaker 1 (08:54):
Look, I don't think at this point the rallies other
than to work against you. There's no point to have them.
If this okay, let's say this thing today, let's play
two scenarios out with this rally. It's gonna take place
down the street. Now, look, I don't believe there's any
way Turning Point USA is gonna allow this thing to fail.
And they're gonna have thirty people like there's such a
large group. They'll bust people in, they'll bring people from

(09:15):
other states if they have to, you know, pay people
to go whatever. They're not gonna lie.

Speaker 3 (09:19):
So you're saying it won't just be Indiana's I don't
know that.

Speaker 1 (09:22):
I'm just saying Turning Point will not allow the thing
to fail because they'll want to go see everybody really
was for it, and they know the media is not
gonna be on the ground quizzing people about who they
are and where they're from, and you get paid to
go or whatever now that you can do that. I'm
not saying there's anything illegal or anything about any of that.
I'm just saying, like when we did our property tax rally.
There ain't no giveaways for people to come. We legitimately

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put one thousand people in that state House who game
of their own time and effort, and we didn't have
buses or anything else. We were like, come if you
want to come, and people came.

Speaker 3 (09:50):
Figure out your own parking, right right right.

Speaker 1 (09:53):
But the point of all this is it's the House
is already decided, it's already over, Like they already know
what they're doing. There's no doubt that this is going
to pass the House of Representatives. So you're what you're
shooting your entire shot on a group of people that
already know what they're doing. And the Senate. I don't
think anybody's gonna move based on people being in that

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state House because they already know, they've already done their
own internal polling. They already know the ultimate poll, which
is what they've heard from their constituents. So the only
thing you could do at this point is have the
thing like like the last time they had the legit
rally with Mike and Diego, where there were an embarrassing
thirty people or whatever it was there, So why would
you even do it at this point?

Speaker 2 (10:34):
Yeah, Well, this is it they're saying, they're calling on
the people to come support them so that they can change.

Speaker 3 (10:41):
The minds of the State Senate.

Speaker 1 (10:43):
And I again would like to hear from somebody, because
I've been putting this out for over a day now nobody,
and there's plenty of people who find me on social media.
Take away. I want to get rid of Andre Carson because,
as we've said, Andre Carson has no control over anything.
He's not in power. The Republicans are in full power.
Tell me how adding two more Republicans to the Republican

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governance we already have, which is all you're going to
be doing. That is the exercise here. You tell me
how that's going to better your life. You tell me
what the Republicans in Indiana have done for you, and
the Republicans in Washington, d C. The past year have
done for you that you say, my life is so
much better, and give me specific instances of how your

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life is better. I've been asking for this for a
day now, and nobody can do it.

Speaker 3 (11:28):
You know what today is, It's repealed day, rob It's right.

Speaker 1 (11:31):
Yeah, ninety two years ago today prohibition done so yeah.

Speaker 2 (11:37):
And unfortunately you've got the Indiana licensed Beverage Association.

Speaker 3 (11:43):
Is going to cease to operate.

Speaker 1 (11:45):
Yeah, so our local bar merchants have been really declined
the past decade or so. It's getting to a crisis point.
And so Brad, our olpal bred clothenstein Stein, he'll be
with us to talk about the sort of the lay
of the landscape here and what can be done about
it to try to revive sort of the local bar industry.

Speaker 3 (12:07):
He joins us. Next on ninety three WIBC on.

Speaker 1 (12:19):
Casey, I have good news and I have bad news.
Which would you like? Purs I would like the good
news first, Okay, well, today is the ninety second anniversary
of repeal Day from prohibition.

Speaker 5 (12:29):
Oh okay, well cheers, so drink heavily. Yeah, drink to that.
Now for the bad news, Yeah, what's that? Well, some
of our local bar owners are not doing so well.

Speaker 2 (12:39):
Yeah, I could see that the cost of everything's up,
so it's cheaper just to have a cocktail in your kitchen.

Speaker 1 (12:47):
And I saw this post the other day from our
old pal, Brad klopenstein Stein. And nobody knows booze in
Indiana like clothenstein Stein, right, And it was from the
Indiana Licensed Beverage Association, and it was this. You know,
it starts out with the it's great post. It's the
ninety second anniversary had Field Day. Everybody celebrate and have
a beverage, and then it goes into how much sort

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of our local bar merchants are struggling, and essentially that
the Indiana License Beverage Association going to shut its doors.
Oh now, so let's find out what's going on and why.
Brett clofenstein Stein joins us.

Speaker 6 (13:21):
Now, Brad, Hello, Rob Casey, good to talk to you.

Speaker 1 (13:24):
Okay, so tell us about this. Let's start with this.
Why are local like you know, your mom and pop
for lack of a better term, the mom and pop
bar owners. Why are they struggling so much?

Speaker 6 (13:35):
I want of it's just increased competition. You've got breweries,
you've got distilleries, you've got chain restaurants, you've got a
whole bunch of riverfront permits that are are being placed
out there in the market, and there's just more competition
and consumer preferences have changed. I know I've talked to
Casey about this before. Just alcohol consumption is down in general,

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and I think there's other societal factors. Some of its
zoning used to be that you would have a neighborhood
tavern on just about every corner, and now zoning has
kind of him those into strip centers, so you can
no longer walk to the bar. You have to drive,
and you know, you don't want people drinking and driving,
so they just don't go as often.

Speaker 1 (14:19):
So that's interesting. Like I think about when you say that,
like SIDS Bar in Noblesville, that's a legendary location, is
literally right on the square in Noblesville and it's you know,
everybody knows about it. I assume it's still there. You're
saying that those days are done, So.

Speaker 6 (14:34):
They're not done. There's just fewer of those places. SIDS
is actually kind of a success story. I think Sibs
just sold a couple of years ago and they redid it.
The bank has been improved in there.

Speaker 1 (14:45):
Rob brad Clofensteinstein our guest. We're talking about these the
really bad position local bar merchants are in in the
state of Indiana. Now tell them about the Indian License
Beverage Association and why they're shutting their doors because they've
been a major advocate of supporting these people for what

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ninety over ninety years now, right.

Speaker 6 (15:09):
Yeah, The Indian License Beverage Association was founded in nineteen
thirty three, right there at the end of prohibition, and
it's a trade association for small, independent, kind of mom
and pop bars and taverns. It's just because of some
of the things we've talked about, we've just got fewer
members as part of the pool. Typically the ownership of

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those places has aged quite a bit here in the
last twenty twenty five years, and then also just people
joining trade associations, those numbers are down across the board.
But we've just got ye. The Indian Licensed Beverage Association
has gotten to the point where they don't have the
financial resources nor the volunteers to keep going. And just

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for disclosure, I used to be their president what they're
paid president, from two thousand and five to two thousand
and nine, and then I had been on their board
here for the last five or six years, and we've
been trying to keep it going, but just we weren't
getting the interest from the bar owners. And yeah, we
finally made that decision that we know what's inevitable, so
let's just call.

Speaker 1 (16:11):
It a day.

Speaker 2 (16:11):
So the Indiana License Beverage Association successful in passing some
initiatives like serving alcohol, legalizing alcohol on election day also
Christmas Day. But with it dissolving, what will the consumer notice,
if anything?

Speaker 6 (16:28):
Initially they probably won't notice much, but that association has
always looked out not only for the bar owners but
for our patriots. And you know, you don't exactly know
what you miss out on because it's trying to prove
a negative. But I think that the License Beverage Association
has always been a strong advocate for responsible alcohol consumption.

(16:52):
And sometimes when you don't have that voice, you don't
know if they're going to take You know, right now
it's point oh eight is the legal limit to drive
with alcohol in your system. I know that there's initiatives
to take that down to point oh five or point
oh three, And typically the Association would have been in
a position to say, listen, the people at point oh

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eight aren't the problem. It's the people at point one
five and above that are the problem. And statistics bear
that out. But there's not going to be that group
to fight for that. Now.

Speaker 1 (17:21):
A couple of minutes with their old pal Bred clopenstein Stein,
we're talking about the positioned local bar merchants find themselves
in Now in the state of Indiana, would you advise, Like,
if one of your friends came to you and said, Hey,
I'm thinking about starting a bar, what would you tell
him today?

Speaker 6 (17:39):
You can do it and be successful. Sometimes bar owners
can be some of their own worst enemy, and you
know they'll do things on the cheep. You have to
be willing to put money into your restrooms. You have
to be willing to put money into your facilities. You
have to be welcoming, and I think that for somebody
who wants to get in you can. You can do

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it right. You can be successful and you can make money.
But know your market, know what your competition is, and
know what your niche is going to be. Be it
a neighborhood that's that's up and coming and has, you know,
some disposable income that's there. You typically want younger people.
That whole industry is driven by consumers that are ages

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thirty five and less, even though Casey and I might
actually help take it the other direction.

Speaker 2 (18:29):
Hey, you notice how he's grouping me in with the
old people crowd.

Speaker 1 (18:35):
Brad, Look again, I mean you're only sixty four years old.

Speaker 2 (18:38):
I look fantastic for my age too, Bratt. Is this
happening across the country or is this an Indiana thing?

Speaker 6 (18:45):
No, that's happening across the country. We were part of
a bigger organization called the American Beverage Licensees, which is
a national group. And even they had they used to
be only four bars and restaurants, and then they merged
with the Store Association back in the early two thousands,
and it was simply because there were fewer members and

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in order to survive you kind of had to combine resources.
So it's not just an Indiana thing. We just happened
to be the most recent one to fall.

Speaker 1 (19:15):
Brad. Where can people find you if they enjoy more
of your they'd like more of your general pleasant demeanor
and personality.

Speaker 6 (19:22):
First, I have to ask job, is this a new
minder manner segment?

Speaker 1 (19:26):
Yes, yes, Brad, because when we think of manners, we
think of you.

Speaker 3 (19:31):
Yes, mindorka.

Speaker 6 (19:35):
The Indian License Beverage Association. We still have a Facebook
page that's active and I'll continue to maintain that to
some degree. So on Facebook Indian Licensed Beverage Association. People
can find me at Brad Kloppenstein Brad Cloppenstein dot com, Facebook,
wherever Twitter Indiana clop is actually my Twitter slash x account.

Speaker 1 (19:56):
You know you need a web you need a website,
Kloppenstein Stein.

Speaker 6 (20:01):
I actually I need to grab that because you say that.
Now within ten minutes, somebody's gonna have grabbed that off
of Go Daddy, Brad, Thank you, I thanks.

Speaker 2 (20:09):
I think here it's Kennilly Casey on ninety three WYBC.

Speaker 1 (20:19):
We have some sad news to report. This just came
down a little while ago, and that is a former
WIBC newsman extraordinary. Eric Berman passed away this morning. And
for those of you who know longtime WIBC listeners, look,
I think he was here for more than twenty years,
from the nineties all the way into I mean he

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was here through parts of COVID and many of you
will remember Eric Berman as the longtime voice of the
State House, back when WIBC used to have a permanent
entrenched like many other news outlets positioned in the State House.
He would do daily reports from the State of House.
He would get the interviews with the politicians, and he

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was a phenomenally interesting guy despite in addition to his
reporting that everybody knew him from best known, probably as
he won on Jeopardy.

Speaker 3 (21:15):
He was Jeopardy Champ, he was on it, he.

Speaker 1 (21:18):
Won an episode of Jeopardy. And Eric was a very
interesting guy. Obviously if you went on Jeopardy like a
guy who's IQ was off the charts, and you know
when you deal with people who are so ridiculously intelligent
like an Eric Burman, and then you have a guy
like me, So what's up right? Like what do you
even talk to a guy like that? But I was

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talking to him about his appearance on Jeopardy and he said,
the biggest challenge of Jeopardy was not the questions, but
it was mastering the buzzer.

Speaker 3 (21:49):
Yeah, buzzing in to answer the question, because.

Speaker 1 (21:52):
There was really an art to doing the buzzer. And
what he said was, he said a lot of times,
the people who will be very the most effective on
Jeopardy are not necessarily the smartest people. It obviously helps,
or even the most well rounded also helps, but the
people who can master the buzzer because it is a
sprint to get into that buzzer properly. So anyway, I
wanted to pass that along that he he did pass away.

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This morning. I worked with Eric for I say with
I mean he was over at the State House most
of the time, but I'd see him in the building
and obviously we would air his reports and for Numero
yeries and just a really great guy, sort of a
sort of he was a throwback a bygone era it
doesn't exist anymore in which media outlets had people Casey

(22:34):
totally entrenched in the state House every single day. Yeah,
a State House press corps. Yeah. And it's interesting I
was having I mentioned that I had lunch yesterday with
a very prominent Democrat, not an officeholder, but somebody who's
very entrenched in politics for many, many years in the
Democrat Party, and we were talking about just this, about
how he was saying that you think about even twenty

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five years ago or thirty years ago, there were forty
plus people with media credentials there inside the state. I
was like, you know, legitimate, I work for this newspaper.
And they were from all over the state. You had
Louisville at Fort Wayne, you had the region. They had
people that they would send down here, especially during session,
and they were just entrenched. They lived here, right, And

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you had all of these people trying to search out
all of these things, not just in terms of policy,
But hey, what's the shenanigans going on behind the scenes?
And through budget cuts and consolidations and more budget cuts
and more consolidations, there's only a handful of people even
there anymore. And that's why these politicians do it. They
do they must even get away with it.

Speaker 3 (23:38):
Yeah, and for the most part, they all live here
in Indianapolis full time.

Speaker 1 (23:41):
Yeah, I mean, and you think about I get this
all the time. I'm sure you get this all the time.
I know our other friends in the media get this
all the time. Why aren't you covering blank? You should
look into da da da da da. And it's like, okay,
but when do you like expect me to do whatever

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thing you want me to do in addition to all
the other things I do. And it just really is hard.
It's no, it's no fault of the media into well,
I mean, in the sense they've they've cutted their budgets,
they've slashed their budgets. They don't have this anymore. But
in terms of the people that are in the state House,
there's only so many hours in the day. You have
to cover the nuts and bolts of the stuff going
on because that's actually affecting people's lives. So then when

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you get all these sort of like extracurricular things that
are happening, can't do it all. You just can't. And
that's why these politicians pull the stuff they do. It
takes a very high bar, see someone maybe getting indicted
or being oh, I don't know, under a grand jury
investigation to actually draw the attention of the public, because
you have to have some sort of paper trail of

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something to get to be looking into these things.

Speaker 2 (24:46):
Yeah, but by all accounts, Eric Berman was a truly
kind person and had a thirst for knowledge.

Speaker 1 (24:52):
Oh he was great. He was great, and he truly
was a throwback to a bygone era. Guys like him
just don't really exist anymore. And one of the things
about Eric Berman, who was it was fascinating to talk
to him because he never really gave his opinion on anything.

Speaker 3 (25:10):
A true journalist.

Speaker 1 (25:12):
Yeah, I mean, on these stories, on these stories he
would cover, you'd sit there and shoot the breeze with him,
and you know, he'd have opinions on things. But my
point is in his news reports, in the things he covered,
fact based, he was just here's what happened this, and
this is what the wbec newsroom still does so well
to this day. Now we don't have somebody in trench
in the State House like we once did, but the

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news department, they're totally separate from us. We talk about
this all the time, that those guys are not us,
and we are not them, and they're certainly not accountable
to or for us. Right, they do a very good
job the WIBC newsroom, as it has for generations, of
just simply giving you the facts and then letting you
decide what to do with that.

Speaker 3 (25:49):
Right, letting you decide. You got an interesting sign put
up in your neighborhood.

Speaker 1 (25:54):
So I have this at Robin Kendall on Twitter if
you want to want to go see it. There is
a house on Green Street in brown Bwnsburg. You can
drive by and see it. Now, I'm sure Green Street
is better known as two sixty seven, but in the
actual town of Brownsburg it's known as Green Street. If
you drive through Green Street in Brownsburg, you will see
someone who has a sign. I guess this is in
a front yard. Is in the front yard, Yes, it

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is in a front yard that says in big letters.
It's like a yard sign, like a political yard type
yard sign. And it says Rob Kendall is right, but.

Speaker 3 (26:25):
They don't specify what you're right about.

Speaker 1 (26:26):
I guess it's everything.

Speaker 3 (26:27):
But you like to point that out most every time today.

Speaker 1 (26:29):
Absolutely, Yeah, that's perfect. So that's a little tourist attraction.
If you're driving through Brownsburg today, get on Green Street,
you'll see somebody with a giant Rob Kendall is Right
yard sign. God bless that person. They should totally give
him a sagamore.

Speaker 3 (26:41):
Somebody agrees with you on something.

Speaker 1 (26:43):
There's one person.

Speaker 3 (26:45):
We got one.

Speaker 1 (26:45):
They felt so strongly.

Speaker 3 (26:47):
We got one.

Speaker 1 (26:47):
Yeah, so you got to do that. If you're through
Brownsburg today on Green Street, which is the main drag there,
you go find that guy with the Rob Kendall is
Right sign, and you know, maybe somebody will take a
picture with it. Maybe it would become like a tourist attraction.

Speaker 2 (27:00):
Sure they should put a little tip jar out there
if we yes.

Speaker 1 (27:05):
Help that guy pay for whatever that was. It's a
nice look at sign. It wasn't cheap. Sure you should, Yeah,
you should. He should put a tip jar out there.
People should leave a few a few coins I do
have if you'd like to see the picture.

Speaker 3 (27:17):
A run for governor.

Speaker 2 (27:19):
Facebook might not exist a run exactly that campaign.

Speaker 1 (27:24):
That would be a great slogan, though, wouldn't it.

Speaker 3 (27:27):
Rob Kendall is right, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (27:29):
Vote Rob Kendle. Rob Kendall is right.

Speaker 3 (27:31):
It's a little double entendre right right meaning conservative right,
also meaning correct.

Speaker 1 (27:36):
We need more people like this guy in the world.

Speaker 3 (27:38):
You think, so, more people that agree with you. You
need more people in.

Speaker 1 (27:41):
This world for me. Maybe not for the rest of you,
but for me.

Speaker 2 (27:45):
There was a new study that was published and it
says that after work invitations like grabbing drinks or attending
a casual gathering can cause stress to people. They were
not always happy for everybody. It makes people feel stressed, sure,
and discomfort.

Speaker 1 (28:03):
So this is like your office holiday party.

Speaker 2 (28:07):
Or just a hey, let's go have a drink, you know,
some sort of social invitation from again.

Speaker 1 (28:14):
Yeah, oh ocur no, no, no, yeah, I see this
because there's a bunch of like when we have these
once a month, we have the all staff meeting, and
I'm sure these people are all very lovely, but I
don't know any of them. And it's like we do
work at.

Speaker 3 (28:27):
The point of the meeting, the lunch or whatever, so
I get to know them.

Speaker 1 (28:31):
But I know enough people. I mean, don't you you
feel like I have enough friends?

Speaker 3 (28:35):
You're full?

Speaker 1 (28:36):
This is why, this is why our show is unique,
because we don't want to be friends with any of
the politicians, so we can say whatever we think because
we have enough friends. I have enough friends.

Speaker 3 (28:44):
They say.

Speaker 2 (28:45):
The stress has caused from the decision making process where
you sit there and ask yourself should I say yes
or no? And then the expectations will they judge me
if I decline? The uncertainty how long is this going
to last? Who else is going to be there? And
also status dynamics. Invitations from a supervisor feel different than

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invitations from your friend.

Speaker 3 (29:08):
It's like mandatory fun. You will go and you will have.

Speaker 1 (29:11):
Well, you have to go, right if the supervisor asked you,
that's not an invitation, that's a demand, isn't it.

Speaker 3 (29:16):
That's like a soft cell. You really should go to this.
So will you seem rude if you don't go? That's
the biggest question People.

Speaker 1 (29:25):
Ask themselve, why would you care?

Speaker 3 (29:27):
And will it affect my work relationship?

Speaker 1 (29:29):
Well, okay, but you would think if you work around someone,
they would get the hint pretty quick on whether you
want to be their friend or not.

Speaker 3 (29:37):
Is it risky for your career if you say no?

Speaker 6 (29:39):
What?

Speaker 1 (29:40):
And this is a nice thing about our job because
there's no one here anymore. It's just you and keV Hammer, Nigel,
Ryan Headrick, Jarret Lewis.

Speaker 2 (29:51):
And none of those people are asking you to go
have a cocktail with them.

Speaker 1 (29:55):
Hammer and I hang out everything.

Speaker 3 (29:56):
You're okay, your set, no worries.

Speaker 1 (29:58):
I used to hang out with you every SCE and
then you quit. You just quit. You could do a
quiet quitting.

Speaker 3 (30:03):
Did I?

Speaker 2 (30:04):
You stopped asking? Hammer's going to join us next. It's
ninety three WYBC.

Speaker 1 (30:14):
All right, he wants to tell me what a horrible
human I am, Jason Hammer. The floor is yours.

Speaker 7 (30:18):
Hello, congratulations, you are responsible for just setting a new
Guinness World record.

Speaker 1 (30:25):
Huh. The most people.

Speaker 7 (30:27):
Yelling oh bull crap at the same time just happened
moments ago.

Speaker 1 (30:31):
Oh thank you. When Rob Kendall said on the air,
and I quote I have enough friends, No you don't. Yeah,
like half.

Speaker 7 (30:41):
Of your friend bases in this room right now.

Speaker 1 (30:43):
And I've got very mixed feelings. Well that's enough. It's
like you.

Speaker 7 (30:48):
This guy in Brownsburg with the sign Adam Wren and Abdul. Hey,
like that's good enough to be the worst table at
every wedding. The only think you're missing is the chick
with sideburn.

Speaker 1 (30:57):
Here's the thing, though, that you don't look atually have
a tippy top friend. And that is the most beautiful
man in all of terror Hotel vision Verbana like he's
he's like he's waiting to be consider you a friend.
He told me the other day, he said, because we
were we're going to get together this weekend. And he said,
it's weird to say, but I think you're one of
my best friends.

Speaker 7 (31:17):
Oh sure, this feels like the quote unquote Tennessee Kentucky
football rivalry.

Speaker 1 (31:23):
If you have a Tennessee fan, who's your rival?

Speaker 7 (31:25):
Well, it's Bama, it's Florida. Ask a Kentucky fan, Oh
it's Tennessee. It's totally one sided here.

Speaker 1 (31:32):
So you're telling me that if I if we had
been on our show Monday and I asked him, do
you consider me to be one of your really good friends?
You think what he's gonna say, No.

Speaker 7 (31:39):
Make it lied to you to your face, because he
doesn't want to hurt your feelings, because you know, such
a petty man, you will.

Speaker 1 (31:44):
Would he drive all the way over from Tara Hote
to hang out with me if I wasn't one of
his friends because he wants to use you for airtime
like politicians do too. He's already on the air, but
not this level television.

Speaker 7 (31:55):
You could be the biggest star in a television station
at Tara HOAt and you know what that's good for?

Speaker 1 (32:00):
Slapping the ass at a white castle.

Speaker 7 (32:01):
You go on WIBC, which is basically statewide, on a
number one rated program, which you guys happen to have
access to.

Speaker 1 (32:08):
I think it carries a little bit more waste the
way we.

Speaker 3 (32:10):
Have access to. Wait are you talking about your own show?

Speaker 1 (32:14):
No, I'm talking about you, Okay, So wait, wait, wait wait.
Your theory is that this guy you like him more
than he likes you. That's my theory. He drives all
the way over from Tera Hope for a five minute
segment every once a month. He's your theory.

Speaker 7 (32:28):
More people know Ben Verbanic, probably from being on your
show than they do from his station work in Tera Hate.

Speaker 1 (32:34):
Well. He makes me look much better when we roll
out together, so I'm fine with that. Whatever it is.

Speaker 3 (32:38):
He's much younger too, yeah.

Speaker 1 (32:40):
They say, look at this guy. He's with this guy, like,
he looks like somebody.

Speaker 7 (32:44):
So he's younger, he's still probably naive enough to think
that you could probably help him in some capacity.

Speaker 1 (32:48):
It'd be like if we rolled out with Phil Sanchez,
you know, we people would see us with Phil Sanchez.
That's like why we like to have him on every
so often. He looks like somebody. I don't look like anybody.
I like to hang out with people who look like
there's somebody.

Speaker 7 (33:01):
You don't hang out with anybody, And I'm you're cheap, you're.

Speaker 1 (33:04):
Poor, your petty, you have no friends.

Speaker 7 (33:08):
And congratulations on setting that record earlier of the most
people yelling, oh bull crap when you said I have
enough friends, where are they?

Speaker 1 (33:17):
He's full anymore?

Speaker 3 (33:19):
Not taking resumes.

Speaker 1 (33:21):
We I do have a question for you. They had
this hearing on the casinos yesterday or the day before,
and all the focuses on putting this casino in Fort Wayne,
and out of this the buy in, like if you're
the winner or whatever, would be fifty million dollars. Who's
paying fifty million dollars on top of what you got

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to pay to bill a casino? Given how poorly they've done.

Speaker 7 (33:44):
Yeah, it's a little saturated in the market now compared
to back when Anderson and Shelbyville opened up because they
were marketed as the closest casinos to the big city. Well,
now with legal sports gambling, you don't have to go
to a sports casino per se.

Speaker 1 (34:01):
You can just do it at home.

Speaker 7 (34:02):
But if you're somebody that wants to play blackjack or
poker or hit the slot machines, then you got to
go to the brick casinos that are being built. And
the problem that we've had in the past, and I
was at Shelbyville when this happened. When the license are granted,
some of the dumbest people imaginable that work at the
Indiana State House thought that, well, this is going to

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be like Times Square New Year's Eve, three hundred and.

Speaker 1 (34:27):
Sixty five days a year.

Speaker 7 (34:28):
I'm going to walk into Shelbyville at three o'clock in
the morning on a cold December snowy night and I'm
not going to find a seat. So they have this
ridiculous level of taxes and fees, and there's no way,
even if the casinos are doing well, that they can
keep up with that.

Speaker 2 (34:43):
You brought up a good points. So the fifty million
is for the license fee. Only who gets that money
the fifty million, Oh, it goes.

Speaker 1 (34:50):
In a pocket of a politician somewhere.

Speaker 7 (34:52):
Oh okay, right, All of this gaming money goes into
the Wink Wink General Fund, which generally doesn't do a
damn thing for the POPU.

Speaker 1 (35:00):
Generally screws us. They generally screwed you. By the way,
Bill Herrick would like you to know he is my
friend as well. Oh he is not. He just sent
me a Texas and I'm your friend too.

Speaker 7 (35:09):
What was wrotime you and Bill Harrick hung out. I'd
love to hang out with Bill Harris, so never thank
you you and your good friend, Bill Harrick, you sound
like Abduel.

Speaker 1 (35:17):
Oh my very good friend Ryan Meurees. You guys are
the same. Shut up hate both of you. Just do
that with everyone. Everyone is his very good friend.

Speaker 5 (35:25):
Right.

Speaker 1 (35:25):
I never noticed this. I'm just awful person, my very
good friend boss hawk Set. Okay, thanks, I never noticed
that till just now. Everybody is his very good friend,
isn't it. That's amazing. I'm so glad we dumped all
over me just to get to that. I never realized
that until just now. Every person is Abduel's very good friend,
my very good friend O. J. Simpson. Yikes, has he

(35:46):
cleaned out his office yet? By the way, Like, I
think he's taking a bunch of stuff out, but you
can't tell because it's gotten down right.

Speaker 3 (35:53):
He was like, come, look, how clean and spacious it is. No,
there's stuff everywhere.

Speaker 7 (35:57):
Still, you're one match away from this whole building.

Speaker 1 (36:00):
Going up in flames. So Abdul just has piles of
comic books. And I'm not kidding when I say piles.
It's just like things thrown on top of each other.
It looks like an episode of Hoarders back there. Yes,
And they told him, dude, we're out of here middle
of the next week. You better go. And you're right.
He's like, Oh, I've got a cart, I've got this.
I'm like, you need a dump truck, dude, a cart
is not gonna cut it right.

Speaker 7 (36:22):
You need one of those big, massive dumpsters they drop
off in front of businesses.

Speaker 1 (36:26):
And that still might not be enough. And I asked
her so well, like, why don't you sell a few
of these? No, I'm putting them in storage. What good
do they do?

Speaker 3 (36:34):
You?

Speaker 1 (36:35):
In storage. All right, what's coming up this afternoon?

Speaker 7 (36:37):
So the competitive eater guys are coming in. It's Joey
hes Nut, Nick, Weary, Mickey Pseudo, the Big Big Ten
Championship wing eating competitions to carry sure we're going to
have that, We're.

Speaker 1 (36:49):
Going to have some arguments and biggest stories.

Speaker 6 (36:52):
Of the day.

Speaker 3 (36:53):
Thanks Sammer.

Speaker 2 (36:54):
It is Kendall Lee Casey on ninety three WYBC