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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You ever know one of those people who kept threatening
to do something.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Uh huh.
Speaker 3 (00:04):
If you don't then I'm gonna.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (00:06):
If you don't, then I'm gonna uh huh. Oh, you
better believe me it's going to happen this time.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Then they what don't stick to their boundaries.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
And it never happens.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Part of it is that you actually have to do that.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Yeah. Part of it is you were never going to
do that.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
And once again on Friday, we have heard for six
months about all of these people that supposedly are for
this mid cycle redistricting. We have now dubbed it the
Jennifer Ruth Green Election Act of twenty twenty five, in
which the Republicans are trying to alter their maps to
elect totally unethical Jennifer Ruth Green to the first congressional district,
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a woman so unethical that she was blown out of
her cushy two hundred and seventy five thousand dollars taxpayer
funded cabinet position in eight months because she has the
ethics of Tony Soprano. Look, government is hard to screw up, right,
because everybody knows who everybody else is when you go
in there. The idea that you, as a high ranking official,
can get blown out for unethical behavior. You have to
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be the worst of the worst. And this is what
they're doing. They're trying to rig these maps that first
congressional district to elect this woman who can't win the election.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
On her own.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
So we have henceforth, it's no longer mid cycle redistricting.
We are dubbing it. We're calling it what it is,
the Jennifer Ruth Green Election Act of twenty twenty five.
And so we have heard for six months now, Oh,
there's so many people who really want the Jennifer Ruth
Green Election Act to pass. They're all for it. This
is rigged, and that's rigged. And we kept saying, well,
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where are these people. They don't show up in polling.
Polling overwhelmingly shows that Hoosiers are against the Jennifer Ruth
Green Election Act. Every public opinion poll that's been released,
including multiple ones done by Republican pollsters, have shown this.
We were told, well, the polls are rigged. Nobody polls me.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Well.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
There have been multiple town halls, including one by an
undecided Senator Gray Good, which byay I was told the
other day. Greg Good, Senator of Tara Hate got a
personal phone call from Donald Trump.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Yeah. Trump has called out nine different Republicans states.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
No, no, no, not called out called him, called him like, hey,
you better do this now. Greg Good and the Tarah
Hate senator in his town hall seventy to zero against redistricting.
Do you know how pathetically laughably weak you would look
if you had a town hall and it was seventy
to zero and you didn't do what the results of
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that town hall were. But the point is nobody showed
up to speak there in favor of it. So you've
got numerous public opinion polls where these people have it emerged.
You've got the townhold and there were other town halls
that people overwhelmingly were against the Jennifer Ruth Green Election Act.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
And then you've got these rallies.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Were the first one, they had like thirty people there
and it was all the same face as we normally
see at these things. So nobody different, nobody knew, no,
not a ton of people coming out, very few new
different people coming out. And then Turning Point USA said hey,
we want in on the Jennifer Ruth Green Election Act.
So Turning Point USA, this mega force in United States
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Politics hosts a rally Friday, and we're told, oh, it's
gonna be great. Casey, I've seen the aerial photos, so
nobody can accuse of manipulation. Abdul posted them, Adam Wrinn
posted them. There were maybe maybe, and I'm being super generous,
one hundred people there. Certainly, when you exclude the turning
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Point USA people and the media, they maybe got one
hundred people.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Yeah. They warned that they were going to spend heavily
on primary challenges against senators who oppose the redistricting.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
If you believe that at this point, you are one
of the dumbest people imaginable. How many times have we
heard threats from these people as it relates to redistricting and.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
They can never show you.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
These people, look, you can spend ten goajillion dollars if
you want. It's laughable to think in a midterm election
turning Point USA is going to be wasting money and
resources or Donald Trump is going to be wasting money
and resources that he will actually need to keep the
House on Indiana primary elections. That's laughable. Not happening, certainly,
not in twenty twenty eight, which many of these people
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are up for. But the idea that Turning Point USA
is going to do what they're gonna They're going and
say what they're going to say. What you should vote
against this version because he did what you wanted. What's
the argument you can send. You can spend ten million
dollars if you want, but what's the argument that's gonna
move people. He didn't do what you said you wanted.
You should vote him out. It's laughable. These people are laughable.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
So Governor Braun, he said that anybody who is anti
redistricting is out of sync with conservatives and may face
a clean house if they resist. You had rally organizers
the Turning Point USA, people saying you need to call
your state senator, you need to leave them handwritten messages.
And then you had Donald Trump who said that anybody
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who doesn't support the new map is not a real
Republican and he also threatened to support challengers.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Now, oh oh, let's come back to Trump for a second.
So Donald Trump who endorsed Andrew Cuomo in the mayor's
race for New York when there was a Republican running,
Andrew Cromo, the horribly corrupt, rotten former governor of New York,
who had to resign because he couldn't keep his hands
to himself. Donald Trump endorsed him running for mayor of
New York. And he's going to tell people what a
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real Republican is now, because I was told very clearly
that you're not a Republican in good standing unless you
if you advocate for anybody other than Republicans. So now
he's the expert on what a Republican in good standing
is or what a real Republican is. If you say no,
I'm kind of okay with the way things are now.
And I think things are already kind of tilted in
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favor of the Republicans, which is okay. It happens in
every state in the Union. I'm kind of okay with
the way they are now. You're now not a real Republican.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Yeah, according to Donald Trump, you're not a real Republican.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Accept that premise.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
If you stopped sending me literature asking for money, all
of these people send me all the stuff. Stop sending
me stuff asking for money, mister Trump. No more letters
about how you need my help to save America. If
I'm not a real Republican and I'm a bad guy,
you know what I say, never stop asking for the money. Casey,
never stop sending the letters asking for the money.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Well, they're going to need money to primary people.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
That's right here, clearly.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
So Senator Mike Young, he said that you're bound to
the caucus.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Which is hilarious. So Mike Young, we've told you who
Mike Young is. He's a Republican. I guess he's a
Republican in the Republican Caucus again from Indianapolis, the Speedway,
Plainfield area, south south side. And he just a couple
of years ago famously, and I had to go. I
cited the numerous news source. I thought maybe M'd suffered
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a head injury and was imagining this. I did send
it to you. You read it, you did. He walked
out of the Republican caucus over the abortion issue because
he was mad the abortion bill wasn't strong enough. Right now,
look all the things I'm critical of of the Indian Republican.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
Party, the abortion law is not one of it.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
I feel like they have a very pro life, mainstream
American position. Mike Young was mad that it wasn't strong enough.
And am I reading Am I reading this wrong? That
that story he left the Republican Caucus, right.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
July twenty six, twenty two, Young says he will no
longer caucus with the super majority.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
So is he back in? Did he quietly just re enter.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Himself back into the caucus, because what does he say
in this wish TV article that you you can't go
against the caucus?
Speaker 3 (07:37):
Right? Yeah, but he literally went against the caucus and left.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
The caucus, right he said, And our rule has always been,
if you have a majority of the caucus, you're bound
to the caucus. We'll see if they want to cancel that.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
Well, okay, so let's let's go into this for seconds.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
When it's his thing, it's okay to leave. But when
it's not his thing, you gotta stay with the caucus.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
And thing about this, you're bound by the caucus.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
So if you if you have any if there's a bill,
what he's trying to say based on that quote, Now, look,
Mike Young is very long in the tooth. He's been
there since the earth was young. He may be slipping.
He may not have the mental capacity he once did.
He may he may have said something he didn't mean
to say. I don't know. I mean, maybe he needs
one of those examinations where they make you say the
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three things back after a certain period of time, and
see how he does with that. But he's saying, read
the quote again, because I don't want to be accused
of misquoting Mike Young.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Do you want to read the twenty two quote when
he left the car?
Speaker 4 (08:33):
No?
Speaker 3 (08:33):
No, no, the current, no no, the wish.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Let's try just telling everybody else they can't leave.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
Well, let's reread them both. We got nothing but time here.
Let's read them both.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Okay. So this is going back to July of twenty two,
and this was in regards to the abortion bill. He said,
I am informing you that I will no longer caucus
with the group. Okay, although I will no longer caucus
with you, I will remain a conservative Republican.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
That was twenty So he's out of the caucus. I
did not imagine this.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
See I could pass that test they give you to say. Okay,
So he did leave the caucus.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
Okay, very good.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
And then we forward to yesterday, December seventh, twenty twenty five.
And our rule has always been, if you have a
majority of the caucus, you're bound to the caucus. We'll
see if they want to cancel that.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
What's this wee stuff. Does he have a mouse in
his pocket? Because he clearly left the caucus now. Look,
Mike Young is irrelevant. He's a dithering old adult. He
passed his usefulness twenty five years ago. He's been there
since I was two years old. He is the worst
of the worst. He's irrelevant in this though. But we're
pointing out how hypocritical and ridiculous these people are and
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how they just make it up, they pull it out
of their asses. They're going along because three years ago
he didn't want any part of these people. Now he's
telling you what you have to do. Now it's all
us and we again. According to that quote, And what
is he saying. Is he saying out loud that if
you have any independent thought, if you think for yourself,
and you're like, hey, I get that, I'm a Republican,
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but this doesn't work for my people. It's really gonna
be harmful for them. I'm out on this. If the
caucus is for it, you can't say no. But it
has to be forty to zero on every single vote.
We're out of the club. You hear it, like, when
we're saying this out loud, how ridiculous it is.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
He went on to say, we may not think it's fair,
but fairness doesn't have anything to do with redistricting. We
have to play in the game. We have no choice
whether we want to or not.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Well, you don't. You can do whatever you want. You're
the lawmaker, You make the choice. Isn't it fascinating? And
this is the sort of the like I said, this
isn't going to fix itself until the people are This
is not gonna fix itself until the people. Well, let's
take a break. I want to talk about a conversation
I had yesterday because this is going to tie into
this about when the people decide they've had enough, which
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I think we're getting close to, and what that actually
looks like in this country. Because these politicians have done
such damage, they are about to open open the doors
to some extreme lunatics in this country, because the people
are no longer have any reason to be invested in
the system because of idiots like Mike Young.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
You're listening to Kendall and Casey. It is ninety three WYBC.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
I had a fascinating conversation yesterday with a member of
the media, and he made a great point about the
damage that these politicians are doing in this country, and
is what is in the early stages of happening that
could be very harmful to not only our state but
also the country.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Were you out with your friend, I was the.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Friend of the show The Most Beautiful Man in Taraote Television,
Ben Verbanic and I were catching up on the various
things going on. Of course, Ben is the news anchor
reporter stordinaire for WTCHI in Tara Haat, and we were
watching the Bears game yesterday and sitting around shooting the
breeze like a couple of cackling hens.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
By the way, you had a terrible weekend in football.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Bear's loss was well, but I did win the bet though,
that is your thing, Okay, They did generates next door
sports betting podcast available where all your podcasts are. I
did have the Bears, or I had the Packers where
they're laying these six and a half so.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
And I knew they were gonna lose. They didn't get
embarrassed that.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
That was the one bet. You didn't ask my opinions right,
and you were successful.
Speaker 5 (12:19):
You are the one with the horrible week What did
you learn.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
I'm blameless in all of this.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
That's my favorite line to my wife, I'm blameless in
all of this, and then she tells me exactly where
I can stick my blame.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
Yeah, and blamelessness.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Anyway, we were talking about it, you know, right at things,
and obviously he's super up on what's going on politics
and government reports on it.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
And he made a great point.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
You are seeing these major cities right obviously, the decline
of Indianapolis. You look at the horizon of who may
be the next mayor, the names, you're certainly going to
see a more leftward tilt up to and including maybe
a full blown socialist some maay be the mayor of Indianapolis.
You've seen this happen in New York with Mom. You've
seen this in these other major metropolitan cities where even
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if the person hasn't announced or declared themselves a full
blown socialist, that you are seeing people who are that
in terms of their policies. And he made a great point.
He said, this is happening because our politicians have made
it to where there is zero point of regular people
buying into the system. The system itself has become so
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corrupted for lack of a better term, and is doing
such harm to regular people that a regular person says, well,
what does it matter? What's the difference? And we got
on this conversation because we were talking about the economics
of our business, and while he's television on radio, we're
in a similar field of media, and we were talking
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about the landscape and we were talking. Then we got
on a conversation about how hard it is for every
normal person in America now to elevate themselves up, and
when they see these tippy top people that it's almost
becoming this Hunger Games esque type existence where the tippy
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top is doing great, they're making more money than ever
Elon Musk, Zuckerberg, all of these people, they're bezos. People
look at that and go, you're making money that I
can't even the numbers. I don't even fathom anymore. But me,
I'm trying to participate. I'm trying to elevate myself. I'm
trying to go to work each day and contribute to society.
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But I can't get ahead doing it. In fact, I'm
getting shoved down rather than lift it up because of
my work ethic. So why would I care that a
mom Donnie gets elected in New York Because I'm not
getting any further ahead.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Either way in this system. Right right, the wealth of
the top one percent has reached fifty two trillion dollars.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
And the regular person sees that and goes But what
about me? And I'm not talking about the welfare kings
and queens that sit at home and don't participate. I'm
talking about people who want to do things the right way,
who are trying to do things the right way, who
go to work each day, who are working on their
skill sets, who are trying to be good employees. Those people,
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thanks to the policies of the politicians, are being pushed
further and further down the ladder.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
Just look at Indiana.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
It's easier for us to go Mam Donni this, mom,
Donnie that look at the Indian Economic Development Corporation. What
did we learn from that, iedc Audit. What did we learn,
Oh that there's fraud, Sure, there's ways fraud, abuse, corruption.
You have money being taken from poor and middle class
people and given to hyper connected people.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
And it's being just squandered.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
It's essentially lining the pockets of the super connected people
who are giving the money, much of that money coming
back to the politicians.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
Look at what came out.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
The other day, our old pal Indian reporter posted this
about Elevate Ventures. Elevate Ventures is the nonprofit that was
set up as part of the IEDC. It has lost
tons of money according to various news reports. They haven't
been able to pay money back to the state that
was owed.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
And then Michael Paul.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Hart, right, Indianapolis counselor.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Yeah, goes to this event and it's talking about how
great these people are.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Yeah. So they have the major controversy. And then you've
got a Rep from Indy, a Republican going to the
open house.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Yes, say no, great, these guys are by all accounts,
the taxes have been totally screwed on this, and he's
there further lifting these people up. Again, this isn't a
Democrat or Republican thing. We're talking about society as a
collective looking at both of these parties and going, you
don't give a damn about me at all. This is
why so many people are pissed off about redistricting. We
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just had the issue in front of us where people
were looking for the fight and looking for somebody to
stand up for them and could.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
Have really helped people with property taxes.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
You didn't get a fraction of the fight from the governor,
lieutenant governor, these reps, these senators as what you're getting
on redistricting, and people are going even if I'm for it,
I wanted you.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
To fight for me.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Could you fight this hard for me?
Speaker 3 (17:00):
Yo?
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Why would I want two more Republicans when you're not
willing to fight for me on the most basic of issues?
What good does two more Republicans get me?
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Well? Donald Trump is not threatening them with primarying them
if they lower property taxes?
Speaker 3 (17:14):
All right, do you want to do this next? We
can do it top and next hour.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
I have to go over there and be ignored in
the order I received for the Election Committees hearing, and
I thought, well, we'll do a little fun inside baseball.
I'm gonna give some remarks.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
Little preview, and so do you want to do it next?
You're going to do a top of next hour? What
do you want to do?
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Let's do it next?
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Okay, Well, I will read my prepared comments, okay, to
the committeon.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Which you're going to present to the committee.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
As long as they do it'll lock me in a
cell or something.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
I'll be over there.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
All right, that's coming up. It's ninety three WIBC.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
So large, Marge and Trump are going.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
At it still still well she is, because on her
way out the door, she's continuing to say bad things
about Donald Trump.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
All right, look, there is nothing worse by these Kenll
and Casey show of rob that's Casey. There is nothing
worse and more pathetic than some person other than for
health reasons or you have some immediate family member who
has some horrible health event. Quitting in the middle of
your term as an elected official. You made a deal
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with the people when you put your name on the
ballot and said vote for me, and here's what I
will do.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
Here is your commitment.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
And I think that if you don't finish your term,
you should have to give back all the money that
you've been paid during the term. And so Marjorie Taylor Green,
she's a US Rep from Georgia.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
For a little bit longer.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
She is quitting just in time to get her pension,
by the way, so she is totally in this for
her and she's quitting in the middle of her term
because she's mad that Trump is being mean to her,
and instead of looking at him, putting both of her
middle fingers right in his face and going, I don't
work for you.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
I work for the people.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
I will finish my term and vote on behalf of
my constituents.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
Go f yourself.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
She's quitting and taking her ball and going on and
she's going to try to spin this now. And you
can see it based on what shows she's going on
and who she's lining up with, that she's going to
spin this, try to spin this into some sort of
book or media deal to benefit herself.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Yeah. Well, Donald Trump called her a trader, he withdrew
his endorsement of her, and she was on sixty Minutes
and she was talking about Donald Trump, and she was
claiming that her colleagues used to make fun of Donald Trump,
and then he won and they quickly changed their tune.
Speaker 4 (19:34):
I'm going to ask you about this almost solid support
he has among Republicans in Congress. Is there in that
support fear? Does the support come about because they're afraid
that they'll get death threats?
Speaker 6 (19:50):
I think they're terrified to step out of line and
get a nasty true social post on them.
Speaker 4 (19:54):
Yes, and they're watching what happened to you? Yes, behind
the scene. Use do they talk differently?
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Yes?
Speaker 6 (20:05):
Huh, Oh, it would shock people.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
Well, let's shock people, okay.
Speaker 6 (20:10):
I watched many of my colleagues go from making fun
of him, making fun of how he talks, making fun
of me constantly for supporting him, to when he won
the primary in twenty twenty four, they all started exkus
ball language, Leslie kissing his ass and decided to put
on a Maga hat for the first time.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
It's interesting.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
She's ridiculous, of course, but she said some things in
there that are interesting.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
And it hit home because for years.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
The people would tell me, well, it's always what you're against,
it's never what you're for. You're always talking about what
you're against. You never get for anyone or for anything.
And I said, for years, and you were here with me.
I said, you can't trust any of these people. It
doesn't matter what they tell you you will they will
do what's best for them In the end. I've been
around them long enough, and so after hearing it for
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years and years and years, it says, all right, we'll
try it your way against my better instincts. I'll take
a flyer on Mike Brawn and Micah because they're both
publicly saying which we willed into existence. Let's face it,
this show wilded into existence that they want to fix
property taxes. Okay, for all the people for all these
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years who have said how negative you are and how
you're not for anything, you're against everything. We'll take a
flyer on these guys and I'll do everything in my power,
and so will Casey to help them succeed, and we
will give them whatever backing they need to fix this
for the people.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
And what happened, didn't They.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Screwed us, They lied to us, And now the people
come back and go, well, this is your fault that
they're there.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
Well, wait, but you just said it was my fault
that I wasn't supporting.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Anybody and everything I tried to tell you people for
all of these years about how you can't believe or
trust any of these people, which is why I'm not
for any of them.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
You got mad at me for doing that, so you
can't win.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
But what she's proving is how ridiculous the whole thing
is about how she was Trump fan number one, right,
she was the biggest supporter in Congress, the starry eyes
with Kevin McCarthy when Trump was four and all that
other stuff, and then when it doesn't work out for her.
Then she turns and goes, well, these people are just
being ridiculous. How for Trump they are. They won't break
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away from Trump. Look at how ridiculous they are, lady.
That was you as an elected official. You weren't for
the people. You were for Trump. And this is the
problem with being for the politicians that were for the people.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
You always get burned.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
It does seem it comes across as a little bit
of sour grapes. Like I was there from the beginning
and now everybody else is around them, but I'm out.
It's just coming across as you know, pick me girl.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
But that's what all of these people are.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
And so that was why I said the Micah Brawn
thing was the final time I will ever ever support
any of them these people publicly. Look, if they do
good things, we'll talk about it. If they do good things,
we'll lift them up. If they do things that help
our audience be able to afford living and create better government,
we'll talk about it.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
But going all in on any of these.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
People, as I had said for years and the point
actually got perfectly proven when it was all said and done,
is a fool's Errand because they're not for you, they're
for the system, and their version of the system is
what benefits them.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
Hey. By the way, remember Braun promised all.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
Those people he had this giant ace up his sleeve
on property taxes, told me right to my face, we're
coming back for more next year. Have you heard any
announcements about anything related to property taxes? No government reform,
local government reform, no getting rid of townships.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
Now and there's there have been other bills that have
been introduced.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
Anything, nothing?
Speaker 2 (23:53):
No?
Speaker 3 (23:53):
Oh, okay, all right, just want to make sure, all right,
do you want to do this now or you want
to wait? What do you want to do?
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Are you ready to do it? Me?
Speaker 3 (24:00):
I'm always ready to casey in that minute.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
So you're going over to the state House and you're
going to speak to the election committee at twelve thirty.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Yeah, sometime we turn twelve thirty and one thirty. Okay,
they can kind of start whenever they want. I think
it's posted as one thirty, but who knows. I'll be
over there by twelve thirty, okay. And I thought, well,
it was what you're going to tell them? Yeah, And
I thought maybe it'd be good to, you know, let
people behind the curtain a little bit. Not that anybody
couldn't go and do this. I'm not doing anything special
that anybody else could. But I was asked by several
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I would call them influential people. They said, you will
bring a lot of attention to this, and I said,
I did the meme of the guy with the hands up.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
Are you sure because.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
Not all the attention's good and I'm sure how many
fans up there? And they said, no, it would be important.
You're capable of saying some things that need to be said,
and we think you'll bring a lot of attention to this,
and we know you've done this many many times. So
would you be willing to go up in front of
these people and say a few words?
Speaker 3 (24:52):
Said?
Speaker 1 (24:53):
After pleading my case to not do it, finally said, okay,
I'll do it.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Hence the sports jacket, you're ware, that's right now?
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Close the fit right, yeah, pants without holes in them too.
It's a real leap for me. All right, you let
me just read this all right, here we go. Now
they do that you are required to keep it to
two minutes. So I wrote this in the you should
absolutely time me. Tell me when you want me to go,
and we'll see if I can make it on the
on the two minutes. Now if I go along, don't
don't buzz me. I want to get through all this.
Then you can tell me, hey, you went long and over.
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I may have to speed it up.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
There to your practice run, but I'm pretty good at
hitting the post. All right, ready, here we go go.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
Members of the Election Committee, I urge you to reject
mid cycle redistricting. The key part of the word representative
is represent The actual job of a representative is not
to be a Democrat or Republican, but represent the interests
of a group of people, regardless of party. Geography, commerce, industry,
time zones, all things that should be factored in to
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the makeup of a congressional district to provide the best
representation for all people. Our current maps do that quite well.
If you look at the maps today, while slightly altered
for pop relationships, they look very similar to the proposed
maps of twenty ten by then Secretary of State Todd
Rokeita as part of his rethink redistricting, designed to take
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politics out of the process and best and most fairly
represent the people. The new maps got the ideas of
putting interests like geography, commerce, industry and time zones. First,
numerous districts start in Indianapolis and stretch to the ends
of the state. In each instance, rural Indiana will pay
the price, while Indianapolis will benefit. You have an opportunity
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to show the world what good government looks like. In fact,
you don't have to do anything, just keep the current
maps in place. Many of you have faced immense adversity
the past few weeks, swatting, bomb threats, et cetera. Please
reject the politics of fear. Please reject the politics of intimidation.
Show the world that Indiana stands for what's right, for
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representation that is best for its people, not beholden to
threats both physical and political, from people who don't live
in our state. And let's be honest, when it comes
to primaries, they're not going to follow through. They can't
fund up primary fund in primary all of you, and
they'll have way bigger fish to fry come twenty twenty
six or certainly twenty twenty eight.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
Every public opinion.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
Poll released on this topic, including those done by Republican pollsters,
shows the public is against mid cycle redistricting. I ask
you to stand with good government, government that best represents
all people, stand with your actual constituents and reject this bill.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
Very good?
Speaker 3 (27:32):
How long?
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Two minutes and three seconds?
Speaker 3 (27:34):
Oh so close? Yeah, I think they'll let me do that.
I think that's I think that's good.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
You don't think they'll buzz yet?
Speaker 3 (27:40):
No, I don't think so.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
Yeah, nice job.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
Yeah, we'll see. How's kind right?
Speaker 2 (27:43):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (27:43):
Against my better judgment, I went kind.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
Yeah, professional, Yeah, all right.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
It was of every instinct I had not to do it.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
When you get in there, throw a little bit more
emission in there. Hammer's going to join us next. It's
ninety three WIBC.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
I know you hate the fitd the Notre Dame, but
I'm pleasantly surprised to see you agree with me.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
They got hosed.
Speaker 5 (28:09):
So if you would have told me two weeks ago
that Miami was ahead of Notre Dame, okay, we can
have that debate, we can have that argument. I'll listen
to that. But what changed over a week that warranted
Miami to leapfrog Notre Dame. Neither one of them played,
they were both off. If the argument is that's, well,
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Miami beat Duke five loss Duke and Duke won the
conference championship game.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
And that looks like a good win.
Speaker 5 (28:38):
Okay, I guess, but what changed really over a week
because you had Notre Dame above Miami they were both off,
and then the next week being bada boom, you got
the old back door screw job.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
Well, the Alabama thing is just as laughable because Notre
Dame was ahead of Alabama. Then Alabama beat a bad
Auburn team with a losing record right in the Iron Bowl,
barely beats a team with a losing record in the
Iron Bowl, and some of that moves them ahead of
Notre Dame, and then they get smoked in that Conference championshigame.
It's not like, oh Man, they played Georgia down to
the wire, went down to a field, you know, like
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the Ohio State Indiana game. No problem, those teams being
one and two, it's a pick them there. They are
the number one and two teams. But they got totally
embarrassed right and Notre Dame. So we all know what happened.
The ACC said, we're not going to get iced out
of this thing. You're not gonna let duke in. So
they went to those other athletic directors, which, by the way,
is hilarious because it's a couple of years ago they
were begging Notre Dame to play an ACC schedule, which
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they started doing to save them during COVID, and then
they lobbied against Notre Dame, who has saved them on
numerous occasions.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
And everybody that.
Speaker 5 (29:41):
Is anti Notre Dame is like, well, join a conference,
Join a conference.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
Tell me you've never ran a business before.
Speaker 5 (29:49):
Because if I'm Notre Dame and I've got all of
this NBC money coming to.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Myself fifty million a year, why do I.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
Want to do revenue sharing with anybody?
Speaker 5 (29:58):
Why join let's just say the Big ten and have
to give Rutgers a cut of what you do? Why
join the ACC and football and give nc State a
cut of what you do?
Speaker 3 (30:10):
No go to the brand?
Speaker 1 (30:11):
Yeah, and the other thing. Like I said, again, I
get I'm a Notre Dame homer, I get it. If
Notre Dame had been on the outside of this along,
if they just said, hey, look, not Dame's got a
really impressive record. Post the first two games, Miami won
the head to head, We're putting Miami in. Now, I'd
still be upset about the Alabama, but at least you'd
feel a little better about him, because then you say, well,
those conference games don't count. Okay, then say ill out,
the conference championships don't count. Tell that to your sponsors.
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When do you want people to watch the thing? See,
they keep trying to have it both ways, and that's
what pisses a lot of people off to say there's
no rhyme or reason other than the ACC went in
there and told those athletic directors, Hey, we're supposed to
be in this together. You can't ice us out of
this thing all together. You better bounce Notre Dame out.
Who's not in a conference?
Speaker 5 (30:51):
And look, I'm full disclosure. I'm a neutral party here.
I'm a Tennessee Valls guy. Yeah, my team was never
in it, you know, really after the Oklahol.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
Game this year.
Speaker 5 (31:01):
So I feel like I'm a pretty fair judge of
what's going on here. And I just don't see how
in one week where they didn't play Miami leapfrog Notre
Dame and Rob to your point, and I agree with you.
Had Miami been above Notre Dame before then okay, fine,
but the e leapfrog them then bye week. And anybody
that's watched Alabama over the last three to four weeks.
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Knows they're not playing their best football. Oklahoma beat them.
They struggled against a bad Auburn team, Georgia in a
revenge game. Beat the breaks off those dudes. Like I
thought you wanted teams playing the best. And Las Vegas
odds makers had Notre Dame at like four or five
in terms of the odds of winning the national Championships
still as of last week, So that tells you odds
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bakers in Las Vegas clearly think Notre Dame is one
of the teams that deserves to be there.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
Yeah. And the fact that you've got these two goober
schools in there, Tulane and James Madison. Who wants to
watch the is it ole? Miss Tulane? Who's who's watching
that game?
Speaker 3 (32:01):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (32:01):
And if you want to put one of them in,
if you're telling me, all right, one Nonpower Conference one Cinderella,
all right, fine, somebody's gonna get their doors blown off
by Oregon. Knock yourself off. Uh, but two come on now.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
Because think about what the ratings would have been. Let's
just say they had Notre Dame at twelve or eleven the.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
Notre Dame Oregon game or the Notre Dame.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
Oh miss game, right, the ratings would if you're a sponsor,
because look, we're in this business.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
Yeah we know.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
At the end of the day, we're here to entertain,
we're here to educate. At the end of the day,
we're here to make money. We're here to sell stuff,
which is why people pay money to be on this
radio station to sell stuff. If you're a sponsor and
you're going, I'm paying for Oregon two Is it Oregon
two Lane or I don't even know which game it
is now, it's so it's so uninteresting, But I'm paying
for James Madison, Like I would be outraged over this.
Speaker 5 (32:54):
Look at some of the teams that are out. Tell
me they wouldn't match up better with any one of them.
You could look at Notre Dame. You could look at Vanderbilt.
As much as I despise the little man syndrome quarterback
and his pain in the butt mom, Vanderbilt would have
given one of those guys a better.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
Game than any one of them. Oh totally.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
Any of those teams out would beat either those two
teams by two touchdowns.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
And this Notre Dame. And you're the expert here, so
you back me up on this.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
Notre Dame is like the Yankees of or the Cowboys
of college football.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
Yeah, they're the villain. If they're in a conference, they're
not near the villain.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
They are as an independent, and that's great for college
football to have that team, just like the Yankees are
great for baseball, the Cowboys are good for football.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
You need Notre Dame to be an independent.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
Well, and it's like that first loss for Alabama didn't
even matter. Yeah, are we not even talking about that?
Speaker 1 (33:41):
Notre Dame lost to two teams that are in the tournament,
two of the top teams, Miami and Texas A and
M that I'll put those two losses up against any
of the two loss teams.
Speaker 3 (33:49):
You're right. Alabama lost to Florida State, who stinks. Stinks
me on wee one, Like that didn't matter.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
Forget about that. We don't need to go back in history.
But all of the people saying that Notre Dame is
just the crying irish. Now, well, some of those players
are probably gonna get drafted. Why do they want to
go to the pop tart bowling?
Speaker 3 (34:06):
Right?
Speaker 5 (34:07):
If you're not playing for a touch A championship, you'll
wry to set it out. I'm old enough to remember
when seventh round picks Sam Hartman set out a meaning
game Casey's boyfriend, your boyfriend.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
Sam hart but with his beautiful hair.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
I love that they said, we're not doing this, ok, ESPN,
you want to screw us over, We're not going to
help you make money.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
Who is by you get to play now on the
Pop Tart Bowl. I have no idea. I have no idea.
Speaker 5 (34:30):
The other Bowl games have become non fact.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
Yeah, they got to they got to scrap this whole thing.
The playoff is ridiculous. The bowls are meaningless. You know
you and I talked about that last year with the betting,
how to even bet them?
Speaker 3 (34:41):
You don't even to nobody's playing? Yeah, what are you
doing this afternoon?
Speaker 5 (34:44):
This afternoon, Guy Ralford will join us in studio from
Monday gun day. And I want to talk to Guy,
not necessarily as a two A expert, but as a
defense attorney, because I do not like what I'm hearing
coming out of the hearings about the guy that shot
Noah Shaun of Oz. Anybody can claim that they're mentally
unstable now and get out of the death penalty.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
And I don't like it.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
Thanks sammer. It is Kendall and Casey on ninety three
WYBC
You ever know one of those people who kept threatening
to do something.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Uh huh.
Speaker 3 (00:04):
If you don't then I'm gonna.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (00:06):
If you don't, then I'm gonna uh huh. Oh, you
better believe me it's going to happen this time.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Then they what don't stick to their boundaries.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
And it never happens.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Part of it is that you actually have to do that.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Yeah. Part of it is you were never going to
do that.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
And once again on Friday, we have heard for six
months about all of these people that supposedly are for
this mid cycle redistricting. We have now dubbed it the
Jennifer Ruth Green Election Act of twenty twenty five, in
which the Republicans are trying to alter their maps to
elect totally unethical Jennifer Ruth Green to the first congressional district,
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a woman so unethical that she was blown out of
her cushy two hundred and seventy five thousand dollars taxpayer
funded cabinet position in eight months because she has the
ethics of Tony Soprano. Look, government is hard to screw up, right,
because everybody knows who everybody else is when you go
in there. The idea that you, as a high ranking official,
can get blown out for unethical behavior. You have to
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be the worst of the worst. And this is what
they're doing. They're trying to rig these maps that first
congressional district to elect this woman who can't win the election.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
On her own.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
So we have henceforth, it's no longer mid cycle redistricting.
We are dubbing it. We're calling it what it is,
the Jennifer Ruth Green Election Act of twenty twenty five.
And so we have heard for six months now, Oh,
there's so many people who really want the Jennifer Ruth
Green Election Act to pass. They're all for it. This
is rigged, and that's rigged. And we kept saying, well,
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where are these people. They don't show up in polling.
Polling overwhelmingly shows that Hoosiers are against the Jennifer Ruth
Green Election Act. Every public opinion poll that's been released,
including multiple ones done by Republican pollsters, have shown this.
We were told, well, the polls are rigged. Nobody polls me.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Well.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
There have been multiple town halls, including one by an
undecided Senator Gray Good, which byay I was told the
other day. Greg Good, Senator of Tara Hate got a
personal phone call from Donald Trump.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Yeah. Trump has called out nine different Republicans states.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
No, no, no, not called out called him, called him like, hey,
you better do this now. Greg Good and the Tarah
Hate senator in his town hall seventy to zero against redistricting.
Do you know how pathetically laughably weak you would look
if you had a town hall and it was seventy
to zero and you didn't do what the results of
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that town hall were. But the point is nobody showed
up to speak there in favor of it. So you've
got numerous public opinion polls where these people have it emerged.
You've got the townhold and there were other town halls
that people overwhelmingly were against the Jennifer Ruth Green Election Act.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
And then you've got these rallies.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Were the first one, they had like thirty people there
and it was all the same face as we normally
see at these things. So nobody different, nobody knew, no,
not a ton of people coming out, very few new
different people coming out. And then Turning Point USA said hey,
we want in on the Jennifer Ruth Green Election Act.
So Turning Point USA, this mega force in United States
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Politics hosts a rally Friday, and we're told, oh, it's
gonna be great. Casey, I've seen the aerial photos, so
nobody can accuse of manipulation. Abdul posted them, Adam Wrinn
posted them. There were maybe maybe, and I'm being super generous,
one hundred people there. Certainly, when you exclude the turning
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Point USA people and the media, they maybe got one
hundred people.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Yeah. They warned that they were going to spend heavily
on primary challenges against senators who oppose the redistricting.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
If you believe that at this point, you are one
of the dumbest people imaginable. How many times have we
heard threats from these people as it relates to redistricting and.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
They can never show you.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
These people, look, you can spend ten goajillion dollars if
you want. It's laughable to think in a midterm election
turning Point USA is going to be wasting money and
resources or Donald Trump is going to be wasting money
and resources that he will actually need to keep the
House on Indiana primary elections. That's laughable. Not happening, certainly,
not in twenty twenty eight, which many of these people
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are up for. But the idea that Turning Point USA
is going to do what they're gonna They're going and
say what they're going to say. What you should vote
against this version because he did what you wanted. What's
the argument you can send. You can spend ten million
dollars if you want, but what's the argument that's gonna
move people. He didn't do what you said you wanted.
You should vote him out. It's laughable. These people are laughable.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
So Governor Braun, he said that anybody who is anti
redistricting is out of sync with conservatives and may face
a clean house if they resist. You had rally organizers
the Turning Point USA, people saying you need to call
your state senator, you need to leave them handwritten messages.
And then you had Donald Trump who said that anybody
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who doesn't support the new map is not a real
Republican and he also threatened to support challengers.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Now, oh oh, let's come back to Trump for a second.
So Donald Trump who endorsed Andrew Cuomo in the mayor's
race for New York when there was a Republican running,
Andrew Cromo, the horribly corrupt, rotten former governor of New York,
who had to resign because he couldn't keep his hands
to himself. Donald Trump endorsed him running for mayor of
New York. And he's going to tell people what a
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real Republican is now, because I was told very clearly
that you're not a Republican in good standing unless you
if you advocate for anybody other than Republicans. So now
he's the expert on what a Republican in good standing
is or what a real Republican is. If you say no,
I'm kind of okay with the way things are now.
And I think things are already kind of tilted in
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favor of the Republicans, which is okay. It happens in
every state in the Union. I'm kind of okay with
the way they are now. You're now not a real Republican.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Yeah, according to Donald Trump, you're not a real Republican.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Accept that premise.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
If you stopped sending me literature asking for money, all
of these people send me all the stuff. Stop sending
me stuff asking for money, mister Trump. No more letters
about how you need my help to save America. If
I'm not a real Republican and I'm a bad guy,
you know what I say, never stop asking for the money. Casey,
never stop sending the letters asking for the money.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Well, they're going to need money to primary people.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
That's right here, clearly.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
So Senator Mike Young, he said that you're bound to
the caucus.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Which is hilarious. So Mike Young, we've told you who
Mike Young is. He's a Republican. I guess he's a
Republican in the Republican Caucus again from Indianapolis, the Speedway,
Plainfield area, south south side. And he just a couple
of years ago famously, and I had to go. I
cited the numerous news source. I thought maybe M'd suffered
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a head injury and was imagining this. I did send
it to you. You read it, you did. He walked
out of the Republican caucus over the abortion issue because
he was mad the abortion bill wasn't strong enough. Right now,
look all the things I'm critical of of the Indian Republican.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
Party, the abortion law is not one of it.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
I feel like they have a very pro life, mainstream
American position. Mike Young was mad that it wasn't strong enough.
And am I reading Am I reading this wrong? That
that story he left the Republican Caucus, right.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
July twenty six, twenty two, Young says he will no
longer caucus with the super majority.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
So is he back in? Did he quietly just re enter.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Himself back into the caucus, because what does he say
in this wish TV article that you you can't go
against the caucus?
Speaker 3 (07:37):
Right? Yeah, but he literally went against the caucus and left.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
The caucus, right he said, And our rule has always been,
if you have a majority of the caucus, you're bound
to the caucus. We'll see if they want to cancel that.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
Well, okay, so let's let's go into this for seconds.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
When it's his thing, it's okay to leave. But when
it's not his thing, you gotta stay with the caucus.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
And thing about this, you're bound by the caucus.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
So if you if you have any if there's a bill,
what he's trying to say based on that quote, Now, look,
Mike Young is very long in the tooth. He's been
there since the earth was young. He may be slipping.
He may not have the mental capacity he once did.
He may he may have said something he didn't mean
to say. I don't know. I mean, maybe he needs
one of those examinations where they make you say the
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three things back after a certain period of time, and
see how he does with that. But he's saying, read
the quote again, because I don't want to be accused
of misquoting Mike Young.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Do you want to read the twenty two quote when
he left the car?
Speaker 4 (08:33):
No?
Speaker 3 (08:33):
No, no, the current, no no, the wish.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Let's try just telling everybody else they can't leave.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
Well, let's reread them both. We got nothing but time here.
Let's read them both.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Okay. So this is going back to July of twenty two,
and this was in regards to the abortion bill. He said,
I am informing you that I will no longer caucus
with the group. Okay, although I will no longer caucus
with you, I will remain a conservative Republican.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
That was twenty So he's out of the caucus. I
did not imagine this.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
See I could pass that test they give you to say. Okay,
So he did leave the caucus.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
Okay, very good.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
And then we forward to yesterday, December seventh, twenty twenty five.
And our rule has always been, if you have a
majority of the caucus, you're bound to the caucus. We'll
see if they want to cancel that.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
What's this wee stuff. Does he have a mouse in
his pocket? Because he clearly left the caucus now. Look,
Mike Young is irrelevant. He's a dithering old adult. He
passed his usefulness twenty five years ago. He's been there
since I was two years old. He is the worst
of the worst. He's irrelevant in this though. But we're
pointing out how hypocritical and ridiculous these people are and
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how they just make it up, they pull it out
of their asses. They're going along because three years ago
he didn't want any part of these people. Now he's
telling you what you have to do. Now it's all
us and we again. According to that quote, And what
is he saying. Is he saying out loud that if
you have any independent thought, if you think for yourself,
and you're like, hey, I get that, I'm a Republican,
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but this doesn't work for my people. It's really gonna
be harmful for them. I'm out on this. If the
caucus is for it, you can't say no. But it
has to be forty to zero on every single vote.
We're out of the club. You hear it, like, when
we're saying this out loud, how ridiculous it is.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
He went on to say, we may not think it's fair,
but fairness doesn't have anything to do with redistricting. We
have to play in the game. We have no choice
whether we want to or not.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Well, you don't. You can do whatever you want. You're
the lawmaker, You make the choice. Isn't it fascinating? And
this is the sort of the like I said, this
isn't going to fix itself until the people are This
is not gonna fix itself until the people. Well, let's
take a break. I want to talk about a conversation
I had yesterday because this is going to tie into
this about when the people decide they've had enough, which
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I think we're getting close to, and what that actually
looks like in this country. Because these politicians have done
such damage, they are about to open open the doors
to some extreme lunatics in this country, because the people
are no longer have any reason to be invested in
the system because of idiots like Mike Young.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
You're listening to Kendall and Casey. It is ninety three WYBC.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
I had a fascinating conversation yesterday with a member of
the media, and he made a great point about the
damage that these politicians are doing in this country, and
is what is in the early stages of happening that
could be very harmful to not only our state but
also the country.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Were you out with your friend, I was the.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Friend of the show The Most Beautiful Man in Taraote Television,
Ben Verbanic and I were catching up on the various
things going on. Of course, Ben is the news anchor
reporter stordinaire for WTCHI in Tara Haat, and we were
watching the Bears game yesterday and sitting around shooting the
breeze like a couple of cackling hens.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
By the way, you had a terrible weekend in football.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Bear's loss was well, but I did win the bet though,
that is your thing, Okay, They did generates next door
sports betting podcast available where all your podcasts are. I
did have the Bears, or I had the Packers where
they're laying these six and a half so.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
And I knew they were gonna lose. They didn't get
embarrassed that.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
That was the one bet. You didn't ask my opinions right,
and you were successful.
Speaker 5 (12:19):
You are the one with the horrible week What did
you learn.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
I'm blameless in all of this.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
That's my favorite line to my wife, I'm blameless in
all of this, and then she tells me exactly where
I can stick my blame.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
Yeah, and blamelessness.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Anyway, we were talking about it, you know, right at things,
and obviously he's super up on what's going on politics
and government reports on it.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
And he made a great point.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
You are seeing these major cities right obviously, the decline
of Indianapolis. You look at the horizon of who may
be the next mayor, the names, you're certainly going to
see a more leftward tilt up to and including maybe
a full blown socialist some maay be the mayor of Indianapolis.
You've seen this happen in New York with Mom. You've
seen this in these other major metropolitan cities where even
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if the person hasn't announced or declared themselves a full
blown socialist, that you are seeing people who are that
in terms of their policies. And he made a great point.
He said, this is happening because our politicians have made
it to where there is zero point of regular people
buying into the system. The system itself has become so
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corrupted for lack of a better term, and is doing
such harm to regular people that a regular person says, well,
what does it matter? What's the difference? And we got
on this conversation because we were talking about the economics
of our business, and while he's television on radio, we're
in a similar field of media, and we were talking
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about the landscape and we were talking. Then we got
on a conversation about how hard it is for every
normal person in America now to elevate themselves up, and
when they see these tippy top people that it's almost
becoming this Hunger Games esque type existence where the tippy
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top is doing great, they're making more money than ever
Elon Musk, Zuckerberg, all of these people, they're bezos. People
look at that and go, you're making money that I
can't even the numbers. I don't even fathom anymore. But me,
I'm trying to participate. I'm trying to elevate myself. I'm
trying to go to work each day and contribute to society.
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But I can't get ahead doing it. In fact, I'm
getting shoved down rather than lift it up because of
my work ethic. So why would I care that a
mom Donnie gets elected in New York Because I'm not
getting any further ahead.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Either way in this system. Right right, the wealth of
the top one percent has reached fifty two trillion dollars.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
And the regular person sees that and goes But what
about me? And I'm not talking about the welfare kings
and queens that sit at home and don't participate. I'm
talking about people who want to do things the right way,
who are trying to do things the right way, who
go to work each day, who are working on their
skill sets, who are trying to be good employees. Those people,
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thanks to the policies of the politicians, are being pushed
further and further down the ladder.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
Just look at Indiana.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
It's easier for us to go Mam Donni this, mom,
Donnie that look at the Indian Economic Development Corporation. What
did we learn from that, iedc Audit. What did we learn,
Oh that there's fraud, Sure, there's ways fraud, abuse, corruption.
You have money being taken from poor and middle class
people and given to hyper connected people.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
And it's being just squandered.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
It's essentially lining the pockets of the super connected people
who are giving the money, much of that money coming
back to the politicians.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
Look at what came out.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
The other day, our old pal Indian reporter posted this
about Elevate Ventures. Elevate Ventures is the nonprofit that was
set up as part of the IEDC. It has lost
tons of money according to various news reports. They haven't
been able to pay money back to the state that
was owed.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
And then Michael Paul.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Hart, right, Indianapolis counselor.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Yeah, goes to this event and it's talking about how
great these people are.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Yeah. So they have the major controversy. And then you've
got a Rep from Indy, a Republican going to the
open house.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Yes, say no, great, these guys are by all accounts,
the taxes have been totally screwed on this, and he's
there further lifting these people up. Again, this isn't a
Democrat or Republican thing. We're talking about society as a
collective looking at both of these parties and going, you
don't give a damn about me at all. This is
why so many people are pissed off about redistricting. We
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just had the issue in front of us where people
were looking for the fight and looking for somebody to
stand up for them and could.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
Have really helped people with property taxes.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
You didn't get a fraction of the fight from the governor,
lieutenant governor, these reps, these senators as what you're getting
on redistricting, and people are going even if I'm for it,
I wanted you.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
To fight for me.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Could you fight this hard for me?
Speaker 3 (17:00):
Yo?
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Why would I want two more Republicans when you're not
willing to fight for me on the most basic of issues?
What good does two more Republicans get me?
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Well? Donald Trump is not threatening them with primarying them
if they lower property taxes?
Speaker 3 (17:14):
All right, do you want to do this next? We
can do it top and next hour.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
I have to go over there and be ignored in
the order I received for the Election Committees hearing, and
I thought, well, we'll do a little fun inside baseball.
I'm gonna give some remarks.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
Little preview, and so do you want to do it next?
You're going to do a top of next hour? What
do you want to do?
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Let's do it next?
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Okay, Well, I will read my prepared comments, okay, to
the committeon.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Which you're going to present to the committee.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
As long as they do it'll lock me in a
cell or something.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
I'll be over there.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
All right, that's coming up. It's ninety three WIBC.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
So large, Marge and Trump are going.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
At it still still well she is, because on her
way out the door, she's continuing to say bad things
about Donald Trump.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
All right, look, there is nothing worse by these Kenll
and Casey show of rob that's Casey. There is nothing
worse and more pathetic than some person other than for
health reasons or you have some immediate family member who
has some horrible health event. Quitting in the middle of
your term as an elected official. You made a deal
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with the people when you put your name on the
ballot and said vote for me, and here's what I
will do.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
Here is your commitment.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
And I think that if you don't finish your term,
you should have to give back all the money that
you've been paid during the term. And so Marjorie Taylor Green,
she's a US Rep from Georgia.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
For a little bit longer.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
She is quitting just in time to get her pension,
by the way, so she is totally in this for
her and she's quitting in the middle of her term
because she's mad that Trump is being mean to her,
and instead of looking at him, putting both of her
middle fingers right in his face and going, I don't
work for you.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
I work for the people.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
I will finish my term and vote on behalf of
my constituents.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
Go f yourself.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
She's quitting and taking her ball and going on and
she's going to try to spin this now. And you
can see it based on what shows she's going on
and who she's lining up with, that she's going to
spin this, try to spin this into some sort of
book or media deal to benefit herself.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Yeah. Well, Donald Trump called her a trader, he withdrew
his endorsement of her, and she was on sixty Minutes
and she was talking about Donald Trump, and she was
claiming that her colleagues used to make fun of Donald Trump,
and then he won and they quickly changed their tune.
Speaker 4 (19:34):
I'm going to ask you about this almost solid support
he has among Republicans in Congress. Is there in that
support fear? Does the support come about because they're afraid
that they'll get death threats?
Speaker 6 (19:50):
I think they're terrified to step out of line and
get a nasty true social post on them.
Speaker 4 (19:54):
Yes, and they're watching what happened to you? Yes, behind
the scene. Use do they talk differently?
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Yes?
Speaker 6 (20:05):
Huh, Oh, it would shock people.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
Well, let's shock people, okay.
Speaker 6 (20:10):
I watched many of my colleagues go from making fun
of him, making fun of how he talks, making fun
of me constantly for supporting him, to when he won
the primary in twenty twenty four, they all started exkus
ball language, Leslie kissing his ass and decided to put
on a Maga hat for the first time.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
It's interesting.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
She's ridiculous, of course, but she said some things in
there that are interesting.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
And it hit home because for years.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
The people would tell me, well, it's always what you're against,
it's never what you're for. You're always talking about what
you're against. You never get for anyone or for anything.
And I said, for years, and you were here with me.
I said, you can't trust any of these people. It
doesn't matter what they tell you you will they will
do what's best for them In the end. I've been
around them long enough, and so after hearing it for
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years and years and years, it says, all right, we'll
try it your way against my better instincts. I'll take
a flyer on Mike Brawn and Micah because they're both
publicly saying which we willed into existence. Let's face it,
this show wilded into existence that they want to fix
property taxes. Okay, for all the people for all these
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years who have said how negative you are and how
you're not for anything, you're against everything. We'll take a
flyer on these guys and I'll do everything in my power,
and so will Casey to help them succeed, and we
will give them whatever backing they need to fix this
for the people.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
And what happened, didn't They.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Screwed us, They lied to us, And now the people
come back and go, well, this is your fault that
they're there.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
Well, wait, but you just said it was my fault
that I wasn't supporting.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Anybody and everything I tried to tell you people for
all of these years about how you can't believe or
trust any of these people, which is why I'm not
for any of them.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
You got mad at me for doing that, so you
can't win.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
But what she's proving is how ridiculous the whole thing
is about how she was Trump fan number one, right,
she was the biggest supporter in Congress, the starry eyes
with Kevin McCarthy when Trump was four and all that
other stuff, and then when it doesn't work out for her.
Then she turns and goes, well, these people are just
being ridiculous. How for Trump they are. They won't break
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away from Trump. Look at how ridiculous they are, lady.
That was you as an elected official. You weren't for
the people. You were for Trump. And this is the
problem with being for the politicians that were for the people.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
You always get burned.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
It does seem it comes across as a little bit
of sour grapes. Like I was there from the beginning
and now everybody else is around them, but I'm out.
It's just coming across as you know, pick me girl.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
But that's what all of these people are.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
And so that was why I said the Micah Brawn
thing was the final time I will ever ever support
any of them these people publicly. Look, if they do
good things, we'll talk about it. If they do good things,
we'll lift them up. If they do things that help
our audience be able to afford living and create better government,
we'll talk about it.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
But going all in on any of these.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
People, as I had said for years and the point
actually got perfectly proven when it was all said and done,
is a fool's Errand because they're not for you, they're
for the system, and their version of the system is
what benefits them.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
Hey. By the way, remember Braun promised all.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
Those people he had this giant ace up his sleeve
on property taxes, told me right to my face, we're
coming back for more next year. Have you heard any
announcements about anything related to property taxes? No government reform,
local government reform, no getting rid of townships.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
Now and there's there have been other bills that have
been introduced.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
Anything, nothing?
Speaker 2 (23:53):
No?
Speaker 3 (23:53):
Oh, okay, all right, just want to make sure, all right,
do you want to do this now or you want
to wait? What do you want to do?
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Are you ready to do it? Me?
Speaker 3 (24:00):
I'm always ready to casey in that minute.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
So you're going over to the state House and you're
going to speak to the election committee at twelve thirty.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Yeah, sometime we turn twelve thirty and one thirty. Okay,
they can kind of start whenever they want. I think
it's posted as one thirty, but who knows. I'll be
over there by twelve thirty, okay. And I thought, well,
it was what you're going to tell them? Yeah, And
I thought maybe it'd be good to, you know, let
people behind the curtain a little bit. Not that anybody
couldn't go and do this. I'm not doing anything special
that anybody else could. But I was asked by several
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I would call them influential people. They said, you will
bring a lot of attention to this, and I said,
I did the meme of the guy with the hands up.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
Are you sure because.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
Not all the attention's good and I'm sure how many
fans up there? And they said, no, it would be important.
You're capable of saying some things that need to be said,
and we think you'll bring a lot of attention to this,
and we know you've done this many many times. So
would you be willing to go up in front of
these people and say a few words?
Speaker 3 (24:52):
Said?
Speaker 1 (24:53):
After pleading my case to not do it, finally said, okay,
I'll do it.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Hence the sports jacket, you're ware, that's right now?
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Close the fit right, yeah, pants without holes in them too.
It's a real leap for me. All right, you let
me just read this all right, here we go. Now
they do that you are required to keep it to
two minutes. So I wrote this in the you should
absolutely time me. Tell me when you want me to go,
and we'll see if I can make it on the
on the two minutes. Now if I go along, don't
don't buzz me. I want to get through all this.
Then you can tell me, hey, you went long and over.
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I may have to speed it up.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
There to your practice run, but I'm pretty good at
hitting the post. All right, ready, here we go go.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
Members of the Election Committee, I urge you to reject
mid cycle redistricting. The key part of the word representative
is represent The actual job of a representative is not
to be a Democrat or Republican, but represent the interests
of a group of people, regardless of party. Geography, commerce, industry,
time zones, all things that should be factored in to
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the makeup of a congressional district to provide the best
representation for all people. Our current maps do that quite well.
If you look at the maps today, while slightly altered
for pop relationships, they look very similar to the proposed
maps of twenty ten by then Secretary of State Todd
Rokeita as part of his rethink redistricting, designed to take
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politics out of the process and best and most fairly
represent the people. The new maps got the ideas of
putting interests like geography, commerce, industry and time zones. First,
numerous districts start in Indianapolis and stretch to the ends
of the state. In each instance, rural Indiana will pay
the price, while Indianapolis will benefit. You have an opportunity
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to show the world what good government looks like. In fact,
you don't have to do anything, just keep the current
maps in place. Many of you have faced immense adversity
the past few weeks, swatting, bomb threats, et cetera. Please
reject the politics of fear. Please reject the politics of intimidation.
Show the world that Indiana stands for what's right, for
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representation that is best for its people, not beholden to
threats both physical and political, from people who don't live
in our state. And let's be honest, when it comes
to primaries, they're not going to follow through. They can't
fund up primary fund in primary all of you, and
they'll have way bigger fish to fry come twenty twenty
six or certainly twenty twenty eight.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
Every public opinion.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
Poll released on this topic, including those done by Republican pollsters,
shows the public is against mid cycle redistricting. I ask
you to stand with good government, government that best represents
all people, stand with your actual constituents and reject this bill.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
Very good?
Speaker 3 (27:32):
How long?
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Two minutes and three seconds?
Speaker 3 (27:34):
Oh so close? Yeah, I think they'll let me do that.
I think that's I think that's good.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
You don't think they'll buzz yet?
Speaker 3 (27:40):
No, I don't think so.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
Yeah, nice job.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
Yeah, we'll see. How's kind right?
Speaker 2 (27:43):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (27:43):
Against my better judgment, I went kind.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
Yeah, professional, Yeah, all right.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
It was of every instinct I had not to do it.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
When you get in there, throw a little bit more
emission in there. Hammer's going to join us next. It's
ninety three WIBC.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
I know you hate the fitd the Notre Dame, but
I'm pleasantly surprised to see you agree with me.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
They got hosed.
Speaker 5 (28:09):
So if you would have told me two weeks ago
that Miami was ahead of Notre Dame, okay, we can
have that debate, we can have that argument. I'll listen
to that. But what changed over a week that warranted
Miami to leapfrog Notre Dame. Neither one of them played,
they were both off. If the argument is that's, well,
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Miami beat Duke five loss Duke and Duke won the
conference championship game.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
And that looks like a good win.
Speaker 5 (28:38):
Okay, I guess, but what changed really over a week
because you had Notre Dame above Miami they were both off,
and then the next week being bada boom, you got
the old back door screw job.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
Well, the Alabama thing is just as laughable because Notre
Dame was ahead of Alabama. Then Alabama beat a bad
Auburn team with a losing record right in the Iron Bowl,
barely beats a team with a losing record in the
Iron Bowl, and some of that moves them ahead of
Notre Dame, and then they get smoked in that Conference championshigame.
It's not like, oh Man, they played Georgia down to
the wire, went down to a field, you know, like
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the Ohio State Indiana game. No problem, those teams being
one and two, it's a pick them there. They are
the number one and two teams. But they got totally
embarrassed right and Notre Dame. So we all know what happened.
The ACC said, we're not going to get iced out
of this thing. You're not gonna let duke in. So
they went to those other athletic directors, which, by the way,
is hilarious because it's a couple of years ago they
were begging Notre Dame to play an ACC schedule, which
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they started doing to save them during COVID, and then
they lobbied against Notre Dame, who has saved them on
numerous occasions.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
And everybody that.
Speaker 5 (29:41):
Is anti Notre Dame is like, well, join a conference,
Join a conference.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
Tell me you've never ran a business before.
Speaker 5 (29:49):
Because if I'm Notre Dame and I've got all of
this NBC money coming to.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Myself fifty million a year, why do I.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
Want to do revenue sharing with anybody?
Speaker 5 (29:58):
Why join let's just say the Big ten and have
to give Rutgers a cut of what you do? Why
join the ACC and football and give nc State a
cut of what you do?
Speaker 3 (30:10):
No go to the brand?
Speaker 1 (30:11):
Yeah, and the other thing. Like I said, again, I
get I'm a Notre Dame homer, I get it. If
Notre Dame had been on the outside of this along,
if they just said, hey, look, not Dame's got a
really impressive record. Post the first two games, Miami won
the head to head, We're putting Miami in. Now, I'd
still be upset about the Alabama, but at least you'd
feel a little better about him, because then you say, well,
those conference games don't count. Okay, then say ill out,
the conference championships don't count. Tell that to your sponsors.
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When do you want people to watch the thing? See,
they keep trying to have it both ways, and that's
what pisses a lot of people off to say there's
no rhyme or reason other than the ACC went in
there and told those athletic directors, Hey, we're supposed to
be in this together. You can't ice us out of
this thing all together. You better bounce Notre Dame out.
Who's not in a conference?
Speaker 5 (30:51):
And look, I'm full disclosure. I'm a neutral party here.
I'm a Tennessee Valls guy. Yeah, my team was never
in it, you know, really after the Oklahol.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
Game this year.
Speaker 5 (31:01):
So I feel like I'm a pretty fair judge of
what's going on here. And I just don't see how
in one week where they didn't play Miami leapfrog Notre
Dame and Rob to your point, and I agree with you.
Had Miami been above Notre Dame before then okay, fine,
but the e leapfrog them then bye week. And anybody
that's watched Alabama over the last three to four weeks.
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Knows they're not playing their best football. Oklahoma beat them.
They struggled against a bad Auburn team, Georgia in a
revenge game. Beat the breaks off those dudes. Like I
thought you wanted teams playing the best. And Las Vegas
odds makers had Notre Dame at like four or five
in terms of the odds of winning the national Championships
still as of last week, So that tells you odds
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bakers in Las Vegas clearly think Notre Dame is one
of the teams that deserves to be there.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
Yeah. And the fact that you've got these two goober
schools in there, Tulane and James Madison. Who wants to
watch the is it ole? Miss Tulane? Who's who's watching
that game?
Speaker 3 (32:01):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (32:01):
And if you want to put one of them in,
if you're telling me, all right, one Nonpower Conference one Cinderella,
all right, fine, somebody's gonna get their doors blown off
by Oregon. Knock yourself off. Uh, but two come on now.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
Because think about what the ratings would have been. Let's
just say they had Notre Dame at twelve or eleven the.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
Notre Dame Oregon game or the Notre Dame.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
Oh miss game, right, the ratings would if you're a sponsor,
because look, we're in this business.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
Yeah we know.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
At the end of the day, we're here to entertain,
we're here to educate. At the end of the day,
we're here to make money. We're here to sell stuff,
which is why people pay money to be on this
radio station to sell stuff. If you're a sponsor and
you're going, I'm paying for Oregon two Is it Oregon
two Lane or I don't even know which game it
is now, it's so it's so uninteresting, But I'm paying
for James Madison, Like I would be outraged over this.
Speaker 5 (32:54):
Look at some of the teams that are out. Tell
me they wouldn't match up better with any one of them.
You could look at Notre Dame. You could look at Vanderbilt.
As much as I despise the little man syndrome quarterback
and his pain in the butt mom, Vanderbilt would have
given one of those guys a better.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
Game than any one of them. Oh totally.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
Any of those teams out would beat either those two
teams by two touchdowns.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
And this Notre Dame. And you're the expert here, so
you back me up on this.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
Notre Dame is like the Yankees of or the Cowboys
of college football.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
Yeah, they're the villain. If they're in a conference, they're
not near the villain.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
They are as an independent, and that's great for college
football to have that team, just like the Yankees are
great for baseball, the Cowboys are good for football.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
You need Notre Dame to be an independent.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
Well, and it's like that first loss for Alabama didn't
even matter. Yeah, are we not even talking about that?
Speaker 1 (33:41):
Notre Dame lost to two teams that are in the tournament,
two of the top teams, Miami and Texas A and
M that I'll put those two losses up against any
of the two loss teams.
Speaker 3 (33:49):
You're right. Alabama lost to Florida State, who stinks. Stinks
me on wee one, Like that didn't matter.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
Forget about that. We don't need to go back in history.
But all of the people saying that Notre Dame is
just the crying irish. Now, well, some of those players
are probably gonna get drafted. Why do they want to
go to the pop tart bowling?
Speaker 3 (34:06):
Right?
Speaker 5 (34:07):
If you're not playing for a touch A championship, you'll
wry to set it out. I'm old enough to remember
when seventh round picks Sam Hartman set out a meaning
game Casey's boyfriend, your boyfriend.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
Sam hart but with his beautiful hair.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
I love that they said, we're not doing this, ok, ESPN,
you want to screw us over, We're not going to
help you make money.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
Who is by you get to play now on the
Pop Tart Bowl. I have no idea. I have no idea.
Speaker 5 (34:30):
The other Bowl games have become non fact.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
Yeah, they got to they got to scrap this whole thing.
The playoff is ridiculous. The bowls are meaningless. You know
you and I talked about that last year with the betting,
how to even bet them?
Speaker 3 (34:41):
You don't even to nobody's playing? Yeah, what are you
doing this afternoon?
Speaker 5 (34:44):
This afternoon, Guy Ralford will join us in studio from
Monday gun day. And I want to talk to Guy,
not necessarily as a two A expert, but as a
defense attorney, because I do not like what I'm hearing
coming out of the hearings about the guy that shot
Noah Shaun of Oz. Anybody can claim that they're mentally
unstable now and get out of the death penalty.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
And I don't like it.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
Thanks sammer. It is Kendall and Casey on ninety three
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