Kendall & Casey Hour 3, 12-8-2025

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, today's the day.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
Yes, the Election Committee, they're going to discuss redistricting.

Speaker 3 (00:07):
You'll be there.

Speaker 4 (00:08):
I will be there. It starts at one thirty, is
my understanding. The public can come and watch it in
action live at the State House. It streams on the
internet on the state's website if you want to watch
it there too. It'll be very interesting. So for those
who don't know byther, it's Kennlly Casey, Seoan Rob, that's Casey.
The Senate now gets the redistricting bill today. It's going

(00:31):
to be very close one way or another. According to
our friend Adam Wren of Politico, also in Portonville, they're
what we're supposed to tell people who people are. He
once dubbed me the most powerful broadcaster in the state
of Indiana.

Speaker 1 (00:47):
In all the landes.

Speaker 4 (00:50):
He claims that Braun was at some big shindig with
Trump over the weekend and Trump straight up asked him
in a room full of people, do you have the vote?
He said yes, and people are like ooh. And then
I pointed out to you. I said, well, what was
he going to say?

Speaker 1 (01:04):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:04):
No? Yeah, So would you do this weekend? Your governor
was at a White House Christmas Party.

Speaker 4 (01:10):
Yeah, really working hard on your behalf right, And so
it will go in front of the Elections Committee today.
The way it works is a bill is heard by
a committee. In order for it to go to the
full in this body, this case, the Senate, it has
to clear out of the committee three undecided will essentially
make the choice. I believe we know of at least

(01:31):
one Republican who's against it. There are two Democrats who
are against it, three Republicans who have announced support for it,
and then three Republicans who have not decided. Which two
of those have to go one way? Whatever it is.
If it dies in the committee, it will not get
a full Senate vote. I would be surprised if it

(01:52):
didn't end up going to the entire Senate. Would be
great if it didn't. But generally you'll hear the we
just want to move it forward, right, You'll hear the
i'm gonna vote. Sometimes you'll even see these guys go,
I'm voting against this in front of the full Senate.
But I wanted to give it the courtesy of my
fellow senators an obligation. Don't know, don't know what's gonna
happen today, wouldn't be surprised on anything that takes place.

(02:14):
But again, I come back to what do you get
out of it? How does your life get any better?
Like take away the letters, just take away the letters
and the personalities. Is your life any better? Your daily existence?
I'm not talking about what you read in the headlines.

(02:34):
I'm talking about your daily existence. Is your daily existence
any better than it was eleven months ago when Donald
Trump took office.

Speaker 3 (02:42):
No, And I think most people would say no, but
we strugg I mean, you could.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
Say the borders more secure.

Speaker 4 (02:48):
But has that affected you personally? I'm not talking about
what you've read in the news, or what you hear
reported or on a podcast or whatever else. I'm talking
about your daily actual existence. Is you life any better?
Price of gas has gone down because of why the
economy is constricted, it is harder to get a job.

(03:09):
And if you know what's interesting too, one of the
things I like to do for fun is explore what
houses are selling for in my community, just to try
to see how much my property taxes are likely to
go up going forward. And what's very interesting and Mark
Didel talked to real estate guru extraordinaire Mark Deele Great
Mark Deedle's sponsor of this program. Talking to us last time,

(03:31):
he was on about how homes are sitting on the
market longer and you're not seeing the elevation in prices
because of the constricting economy. And so if you're a
person who had to buy high to get in, we
predicted this a couple of years ago. Remember, we said,
what's gonna happen is eventually the economy is gonna reconstrict.
You can't bail yourself out of all this printed money

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without cutting off a whole bunch of stuff, which will
constrict the economy. And then if you're a person who
bought in high, now you're gonna be stuck because the
bank's not gonna let you sell that house for the
in inflated price you paid for.

Speaker 1 (04:02):
So you're stuck. And you're starting to see more and
more of that. Now.

Speaker 4 (04:04):
Homes are still selling, some are still selling relatively quickly,
but a lot more are sitting longer, and they're not
getting the enhanced prices they were getting before, exactly as
we predicted.

Speaker 1 (04:14):
Look, the economy's crap. Would you I mean, would you
argue that no?

Speaker 2 (04:19):
Right?

Speaker 4 (04:19):
And so gas has been a benefit, So if you
have a job, if you have the same job you had,
you'll benefit out of that, there's no doubt. But the
amount you're going to benefit out of saving three four dollars.
You know, if you have a large tank and you
fill up, how does that compare to what you're not
getting because the economy is constricting.

Speaker 2 (04:37):
Yeah, you're actually getting a pay cut because wages aren't
going up, but everything else is. For example, health insurance.

Speaker 4 (04:43):
Well let's get into that, shall we. Sure, I mean
we are in the process. We talked about this a
little bit last week. Our company, the people who work here,
are looking at huge insurance premium spikes, which is happening,
as they laid out to us, at many other non
government into t ease all across the country. It's not
an urban one thing where they're doing some nefarious or

(05:06):
manipulative thing. They're in the same boat everybody else is in,
which is the price of all this stuff is skyrocketing
to the point where they can't absorb the cost. So
you and I have spent the weekend. Do I downgrade
my insurance? Do I get less insurance? Do I just
hope that I don't have a major medical catastrophe. You've

(05:27):
had to weigh the same thing. Obviously, you have multiple
people on your insurance plan, so yours is a little
different than mine. And so what do you do You're
getting no matter what we do, you're either going to
pay a lot more or you're going to get less
service for roughly the same amount of money. And that's
sort of the American way of life right now. Can
you for the same amount of money find a way,

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whether it's shrink flation less food, you know whatever. And
I don't think that that makes people overly happy.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
One of the things that you have to consider. You're
talking about what does this do for you. There are
some people who are doing well with the redistricting conversation,
and that is the the groups that have spent half
a million dollars in ads trying to sway a public
opinion both ways.

Speaker 3 (06:14):
Right, both ways.

Speaker 4 (06:15):
So you have said, seen a half a million dollars
pour in on both sides of the Look, I'm not
going to be a hypocrite. We benefit off of this,
right you hear these ads from both sides on these
radio on this radio station. I'm not gonna be a
hypocrite and say we haven't benefited from that, But I
will say I would much rather that money have gone

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to property tax reform or fighting the rise.

Speaker 1 (06:40):
Of utility bills.

Speaker 4 (06:42):
And I keep coming back to the same thing that
that is what's amazing these lawmakers don't see it, don't care.
I don't know which one it is, but maybe it's
a little both. That when you had an opportunity to
fight for the people, people would be more invested in
you doing this if they felt you were doing something
for them. If having two more Republicans got us something,
some tangent benefit, if our lives had gotten better in

(07:03):
the past eleven months. Wow, look at what Republican leadership
got us. Look at what having the Republicans in the
House got us. Look at what having all three branches
of government controlled by Republicans got us. If the average
person saw some benefit of that, they would go okay,
m hmm, okay. Even if I don't necessarily agree with
changing mapsmith cycle, at least I'm going to see some
benefit out of it. They see no benefit out of this,

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because once again, at a state and a federal level,
the Republicans are not delivering.

Speaker 1 (07:28):
For the people.

Speaker 2 (07:29):
It is going to be a test of Donald Trump's
power here in Indiana.

Speaker 3 (07:33):
And this kind of goes along with something.

Speaker 2 (07:35):
Ronda Santis, Governor of Florida, he was on the Fox
and Friends Morning Show and he was saying how Congress
hasn't done anything since August.

Speaker 3 (07:47):
Listen to this.

Speaker 1 (07:48):
What should be the bullet points?

Speaker 5 (07:49):
I think it's economy, Immigration. We don't talk about immigration
as much as we were maybe when Biden was letting
it in. The border is secure, we've stopped the influx.
He's now working on a moratorium of new people coming in,
particularly from some of these countries where the people are hostile.
That's a huge victory for people. Then need to be
talking about that and go even bolder on that.

Speaker 1 (08:11):
I just think you got to be bold. I think
you got to be strong.

Speaker 5 (08:14):
And I think one of the frustrations with the Congress
is what have they done since August till now? They
really haven't done anything right. And it's like if I'd
be like every day coming out with something new and
make the Democrats go on the record, show the contrast.
Think about what we've been able to win big in Floridas,
because there's a very sharp contrast to what we're doing
and what the what the liberal Democrats stand for, parents rights,

(08:37):
illegal immigration, you know, tax c anything you can think of.
Most voters knew we were on their side, and I
think you got to really make that sharp. But I
would tell you, you know, the Democrats they caused a
lot of this with the inflation, and now they're acting
like it's like they had nothing to.

Speaker 1 (08:52):
Do with it. Are you do good on the couch?
You got to come in more? Yeah? I have. But wait, wait,
wait a second. You can.

Speaker 4 (08:58):
Put that to the Republicans too. They act like it's
all Democrats that caused the inflation. Everybody's guilty in this.
And I get what he's saying, and he's right. Have
you noticed there's been almost no sales pitch of the
big bullcrap bill.

Speaker 2 (09:12):
Yeah, you haven't heard a lot about it.

Speaker 4 (09:14):
Numerous publications have had articles about this that it's really
frustrating a lot of these especially you know, House members
are going to be in these tight races, who say,
wait a second, we went on a limb for you.
We voted on something that was deemed very kind of
unpopular when it passed. And normally when a president gets
a signature agenda item, he goes out around the country whereases.

Speaker 3 (09:35):
People go out and keeps talking about it.

Speaker 1 (09:36):
You haven't seen any of this.

Speaker 4 (09:38):
We had Ben and I were talking Ben Verbannick from
Tara hate Whi and Tara Hote. We were having conversation
last night with our waitress when were out watching the
Bears game and there was almost nobody in this bar
last night, and we were like, dude, usually Sundays are
pretty good when the NFL's going on. People go out
do stuff. And we were talking to her. She goes, well,

(09:59):
you know, last night was just super packed. But she
was saying, this is more of a reflection now, not
on Fridays or Saturdays they do okay, but the day
to day operations or flow is more of what you're
seeing here on this Sunday rather than how well we
did on the you know, the game last night.

Speaker 2 (10:17):
That was more than norm through the week.

Speaker 1 (10:19):
Right.

Speaker 4 (10:20):
And then when Ben and I were walking back to
the to the radio station, this is seven thirty, right,
We're not talking.

Speaker 1 (10:26):
This is not midnight.

Speaker 4 (10:27):
This is seven thirty on a Sunday and the city's vacant,
like there's nobody.

Speaker 1 (10:31):
It's like some.

Speaker 4 (10:31):
Dystopian like or well thing, and we're looking around at
all these businesses, including these high end restaurants, and we're saying,
I wonder how they're doing it, because not only you're
not seeing people out on the streets.

Speaker 1 (10:44):
And again, it's Christmas time.

Speaker 4 (10:45):
As a kid, you know, kid or even an adulting
come down here, trees lit up, people are coming to
see the thing. It's a Sunday night. The weather wasn't
you know, it wasn't sixty and sunny, but it also
wasn't minus ten. You normally see all sorts of people
out and about, and there's nobody here. And so one
of the problems the Republicans are having is the same
thing the Democrats had last year, which is, you can

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put up whatever numbers you want and you can say,
oh this, by this measure, the economy's great. You can't
make people not believe in their own experience. You can't
make people not believe their own life that they're living.

Speaker 1 (11:20):
Day to day. And it's like Trump's doing the same
thing Biden did. No, no, no, it's great. Well, but
it's not.

Speaker 2 (11:25):
Another thing that Ron DeSantis was saying was that a
lot of the Republicans, they rode into office on Trump's cotails,
and they're not going to be able to do that again.

Speaker 1 (11:34):
A couple things.

Speaker 5 (11:35):
One, in an off year mid term, the party in
powers voters tend to be more complacent. Party out of power,
they get upset, right, That's just the nature of midterms.
We saw it when Obama was in and Republicans can
so that dynamic is always going to be there. And
then I think Republicans have an issue that Donald Trump
has created a big pool of voters, but some of
them are unique to him, right, So they will go

(11:56):
vote for Trump and they'll vote for all the Republicans
when Trump's on the ball but if he's not on
the ballot, some of them don't vote. Now, you can,
you can overcome that we did in Florida in twenty
twenty two. You know, we had a state that was
a purple state, one point state. We won by a
million and a half votes, twenty points, the biggest Republican
victory ever. But we did that based on results and substance.
We did it by flying under a banner of bold colors,

(12:19):
not pale patals. We were sticking it to the left
every single day and delivering big victory.

Speaker 1 (12:24):
So it can be done.

Speaker 5 (12:26):
But I think it's like You can't go on twenty
twenty four and say, oh, well, we Republicans won this
district by ten points, so therefore we're going to win
it because President Trump was the reason.

Speaker 1 (12:35):
You want to what do you say?

Speaker 4 (12:36):
Okay, Okay, let's take a break, because that's the that's
the money quote, right, he says it. Nobody loves it. Yeah,
I say it, and people are outraged. I want to
take a break because that is everything I have just
said about this whole redistricting thing.

Speaker 1 (12:49):
Is that is that is our show? Is that amazing?
Guys like that say it? They go, oh that's great,
that's right. What do you say? They go, we hope
you die.

Speaker 2 (12:58):
It's Kennily Casey, it's ninety three WYBC.

Speaker 1 (13:03):
Okay, we got to play that.

Speaker 4 (13:04):
Ron to Sanda's audio again because that's that's everything we've
been saying about redistricting for months, and it's always fascinating
to me.

Speaker 1 (13:12):
People here for the thing.

Speaker 4 (13:14):
You know, if you're decent, a little nicer, bad, it
might get further. Okay, Well one, I'm not an officeholder,
so I'm not trying to win anybody over. And case
I think you could thought on it caught onto this
very quickly. I say things the way I do so
people will talk about it more. Because the only way
we're gonna fix this stuff is for enough people to
wake up and start talking about it. And it ain't

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only gonna be Rob Kendall that's going to do anything
about it. But if I can start the conversation on
whatever the topic is, or keep the conversation going, and
keep people talking about it in their own lives, then
that's how it's ultimately gonna get fixed. I don't come
in here every day going I almost say something and think,
you know, it's gonna get fixed. And the colorful way
that I describe things.

Speaker 3 (13:56):
In people, some flowery language is very.

Speaker 4 (13:58):
Effective at keeping converses going. But so Desanta's Ronda, Santa's
governor Florida was aunt was this Fox and Friends?

Speaker 1 (14:05):
Is that right?

Speaker 4 (14:06):
And he's talking about so what have we said from
the beginning? People would be for redistricting, or more people
would be for it if they saw some benefit to it.
Happenings and people would actually, you don't even need redistricting.
People would vote for your candidate if you did something
that gave them a compelling reason to be for you.
The reason the Republicans can't win the first congressional swing

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district in the Chicago Land area is because they don't
give people compelling reason to be on their team. It's winnable.
It's five points every time. If you just did something
worth motivating people, they'd be like, we can't wait to
vote for those people.

Speaker 1 (14:42):
The same thing with Indianapolis.

Speaker 4 (14:44):
People fled Indianapolis people have left, and then you rigged
the district for decades now, but even just the most
recent time because you needed to save other Republicans because
you weren't giving people a reason to vote for you.
Ron DeSantis said this same thing and talked about how
he we did it in Florida.

Speaker 5 (15:01):
You know, we had a state that was a purple state,
one point state. We won by a million and a
half votes, twenty points, the biggest Republican victory ever. But
we did that based on results and substance. We did
it by flying under a banner of bold colors, not
pale pastals. We were sticking it to the left every
single day and delivering big victory.

Speaker 1 (15:20):
So it can be done.

Speaker 5 (15:21):
But I think it's like, you can't go on twenty
twenty four and say, oh, well, we Republicans won this
district by ten points, so therefore we're gonna win it
because President Trump is the reason you want to What
do you say?

Speaker 4 (15:32):
You have to Whatever the thing is, you have to
continually give people a reason to engage in it. Look,
just use the show as an example. People say heinous,
horrible things about me on social media, on our YouTube chat,
everywhere every day.

Speaker 1 (15:51):
What do they do? They listen, They come back.

Speaker 4 (15:53):
Because we give them a compelling reason. Hey, what are
they gonna do today? I may hate this guy like you,
you're just an innocent victim and all this. I may
hate this guy, but he's They're interesting. They're going to
do stuff we're not going to hear anywhere else. Have
you seen the new ratings case fabulous as always right?
Every time, that's it, they're done. It's all over for them. No,

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And it's the same thing with politics. You have to
continually give people a reason to say, Okay, I'm going
to go with them because I've seen a tangible betterment,
a tangible benefit in my life, and the Republicans in.

Speaker 1 (16:30):
The state should just do that.

Speaker 4 (16:32):
Yeah, people would vote for them in the first if
they would give them a reason.

Speaker 1 (16:35):
To do it.

Speaker 2 (16:35):
Yeah, Ron de Santas saying that some of these voters
they only show up for Donald Trump, and when he's
not on the ballot, they're just going to stay home.
So these other Republicans have to introduce some bills that
affect the average American. That's how they're going to get votes.

Speaker 4 (16:51):
It all comes back to the same thing and why
people are upset with the Republicans. And it's always the
same stuff. It rears its head in different forms, but
it comes back to and out of control federal government,
out of control spending. Now it is in the form
of inflation, right, and that is the affordability and the
cost of living, and the Republicans have done absolutely nothing

(17:13):
to fix that issue. It's not going to get any
better between now and the time of the election. And
so people naturally because at a conversation this was last
week with a very influential Democrat, not a politician, but
somebody who's a major player in Indiana politics and government.
And they told me, they said one of the things
that people like us. He was talking about his role

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and he was talking about me in the medium.

Speaker 1 (17:36):
And you and I have mentioned this many times.

Speaker 4 (17:39):
We lose site or the media and the politicians and
the political class lose sight of where the average person is,
and the average person has next to zero investment in
this the way we do. The average person doesn't care
about the personalities. They don't care about the drama, they
don't care about sides, they don't care about teams. That's
something we've invented. The average person votes based on where

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is my life at. Is this person doing a good
job with whatever responsibility they have been entrusted with, and
do I think based on their performance? Can I get
somebody else to do it better?

Speaker 5 (18:12):
Right?

Speaker 2 (18:12):
Like again, sometimes that's just lack of scandal.

Speaker 1 (18:15):
Well, it is, it can be, it can be.

Speaker 4 (18:17):
Look who is the arguably best thought of politician in
the state House from the state wide perspective. It's Daniel Elliott,
You're right, State treasure Why because he just goes to
work and.

Speaker 1 (18:27):
Does his job, does his job. Lack of scandal, right,
He goes to work, he.

Speaker 4 (18:31):
Does the things he lays out, when he does things,
the reasons he does them. He will go against his party,
he will challenge his party, as we saw like with
the banking bill, when the time is right. But he's
not a celebrity. People in our in our state house,
these people in Washington, d C. They see themselves as celebrities.
Now diego Micah Rokeeda Braun. Those people see themselves as

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celebrities first and elected people second. So everything they do
is about how much attention can they grab and it
totally alien aid based on Look at the polling on
those people compared to a Daniel Elliott who is about
government competence. Look at how they're viewed versus how he's viewed,
and so and so people are going to vote. Most
people vote based on where is my life at. They

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don't care about your star status, they don't care about
your Instagram, they don't care about your Lincoln Day speech.
They simply care about is my life better? Is this
person doing something for me? And for the Republicans. The
answer next year, unless they change very quickly, which they're
not going to do, is going to be a resounding no.
But they've earned that, Casey, they're not victims in this.

Speaker 2 (19:35):
Inspire the voters and watch the map flip automatically on
its own.

Speaker 4 (19:39):
They have earned the ire of the voter because they
had a chance, again with all layers of government, to
fix it, and they haven't done it.

Speaker 3 (19:48):
It's Kendall and Casey.

Speaker 2 (19:49):
It's ninety three WIBC.

Speaker 1 (19:56):
You had touched on this earlier.

Speaker 2 (19:57):
In the program.

Speaker 4 (19:59):
Obviously we have people, thousands of people coming and going
through at the course of this highly acclaimed the radio show,
and I thought it'd be good to come back to.
And you were talking about the amount of wealth that
the tippy top people have amassed.

Speaker 1 (20:14):
Is that this is the past year.

Speaker 2 (20:16):
Yeah, so the wealth of the top one percent has
reached fifty two trillion dollars. How much, fifty two trillions,
So the top ten percent of Americans added five trillion
dollars to their wealth and that was in the second
quarter of this year, mostly because the stock market did
really well and that benefited bigger, the biggest investors.

Speaker 1 (20:36):
Yeah, so I remember this years ago.

Speaker 4 (20:40):
It's funny because he did the exact opposite when the.

Speaker 1 (20:43):
Chips were down.

Speaker 4 (20:44):
But in the very first presidential debate primary in twenty
fifteen with Trump, they were talking about the economy and
they were talking about interest rates and one of the things,
and it's I mean, it's hilarious, not in the sense
of it's funny, but it's ironic. Now looking back on it,
Trump said, he goes one of the worst things you
could do for the economy is lower the interest rates,
because rich guys like me benefit the most, he said,

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because I'll be able to borrow money at one or
two percent, and the amount of money that I'll borrow
one or two percent, I'll do way more with it
than some regular person would be able to do because
they can't afford the thing they'd be trying to do anyway,
And ironic because that's exactly what he did during COVID,
which what who benefited during COVID the tippy top people
and the governments. The regular people got totally totally screwed.

(21:28):
And so now like you're saying, you're seeing in the
wake of Catalyst was the massive money printing, factory and
interest rate cuts of the of the twenty twenty year.

Speaker 1 (21:38):
Look at who benefited the.

Speaker 2 (21:39):
Most well, and to your point, they say that wealthy
Americans drive almost half forty nine point two percent of
all consumer spending, and that's the highest that it's been
since nineteen eighty nine. They're calling it a K shaped economy,
and that's where the rich do very well while others
grow slowly.

Speaker 4 (21:55):
It was fascinating because you know my wife and II
there's fifteen years difference between us, right, so we are.
She is experiencing things that I experienced in my mid twenties,
and I will tell her things and then she'll go,
but you don't understand. And I got to go, oh,
I do because I've been through it. But she's reading
this book on artificial intelligence and she most of our

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audience knows, but she works in the field of cybersecurity.
And I asked her, I said, what are you doing
with that? And she said, well, she said, the next
logical step for me, because she's advancing fairly rapidly in
her career. She doesn't see it as being rapid, but
it is when you have perspective on something like this.
She said, the next logical step of the thing that
you will still need some level of human oversight in

(22:42):
is artificial intelligence. And she said, but I'm having to
prepare for what in my field will always need or
for the foreseeable future, will need some level of human oversight.
And I was sitting there hearing her say that, and said,
think about this is a person in their mid twenties
and her rear path is going to be dictated on

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what will still need some level of human oversight. That's
a horrible abyss to be staring into because most people,
myself included, don't have near the skill set she has.
So she will still likely keep getting jobs and elevating.
But the average person, the grunts, for a lack of
you know, you know, the rank and file, they're screwed.

(23:24):
Look at the abyss we're staring into where the tippy
top people are like, yeah, I'm really needing to look
ahead to see what will need human interaction because there
ain't gonna be much of it.

Speaker 2 (23:33):
Well, wasn't it Elon Musk who was saying that in
the future, a job will be elective, you can choose
whether you want to work or not.

Speaker 4 (23:40):
Well, that's and that was the argument that guys like
well Andrew Yang remember when he ran for president several
years ago, was it president?

Speaker 1 (23:46):
He ran for twenty twenty, Yes, he.

Speaker 4 (23:48):
Was twenty twenty, and he was talking about the idea
of universal basic income and he said, look, I'm not
saying this is a socialist thing.

Speaker 1 (23:54):
I'm saying this is.

Speaker 4 (23:54):
A reality that technology is quickly phasing people out. And
if we as a society and it makes more and
more sense by the day, if we as a society
are going to have giveaways of tax money to these
companies that are phasing people out, then they deserve to
share that in it's sort of a profit sharing program
since they fronted the cash or the resources for these

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companies to come into our country and be able to
do these things. And so sort of like you're going
to see this weird thing in the future of our
economy where if you learned a skill plumber, roof for carpenter, electrician,
you're gonna be okay because they'll need those people to
do that. And if you've learned a skill on the
other end, where like my wife is, in terms of technology,

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you're gonna maybe be okay. But there's gonna be this
huge group of people in the middle who were taught
just go get a four year degree, just go to
work each day, just go where some white collar job,
and you're gonna be fine. Those people are getting right
now rapidly constricted to the point where ten years from now,
maybe they don't even exist.

Speaker 2 (24:54):
It's interesting that she's reading a book. It would seem
to me that the book would be outdated the second
it's in it as quickly as things change.

Speaker 1 (25:02):
I don't know. I don't know Casey. I don't know
what she does.

Speaker 2 (25:06):
I don't know what she's doing back there.

Speaker 4 (25:08):
The other day, like I'm such an old person. I
was having trouble with something on the computer, and I said,
do you know how to do you know how to
do this? And she just goes. I can tell like
she's sitting on the couch.

Speaker 1 (25:18):
She just goes, and she just.

Speaker 4 (25:20):
Walks up and goes boom boom, and then just looks
at me, and I was like, thank you.

Speaker 1 (25:25):
My job is to talk about the things, not know
how they operate.

Speaker 2 (25:28):
So yesterday was a day that will live an infamy.
Pearl Harbor, that's right, eighty four years ago. Yes, only
twelve of these sur there's only twelve of the survivors
that have lasted. They're all centurions.

Speaker 4 (25:42):
Now, well, it's actually amazing that there's that many when
you think about it was eighty four years ago. I mean,
how many people lived to one hundred?

Speaker 2 (25:48):
So none of them were able to attend ceremony in Hawaii.

Speaker 1 (25:53):
That's horrible.

Speaker 4 (25:55):
But I come back to that, if you'd told me
how many people are still living, I would not have
thought it would have been that many, because that means
in all likelihood, there's that many was sixteen Is that
what you said? Twelve twelve? Sorry, there's twelve people of
that single event that lived to be one hundred years
or most of them more well beyond one hundred years old.
That's pretty amazing.

Speaker 2 (26:15):
I always remember a story that my grandmother told me
that she was in Ohio and she was taking a
train across the country to see my grandfather who was
able to get leave, and my mother was a baby
and she was sick on the train. My mother was
sick on the train and was just crying NonStop, and
a stranger went to my grandmother and said, let me

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watch your baby for a while. You take a nap.
Oh you need a break. You never do that today, right,
You would never turn your baby over to a stranger
and let them watch.

Speaker 1 (26:48):
The child after yesterday?

Speaker 3 (26:50):
I might, but that just shows.

Speaker 2 (26:53):
You, I mean, how different you would. Nobody would ever
even offer that now? Oh no, And then if somebody
did offer, you probably wouldn't take him up on it.

Speaker 4 (27:03):
By the way, did you see Bronze, big thing is
now you can bring your baby to work. So he
cut out the work from home and we're gonna run
short on time here. What an idiot. So he cuts
out the work from home because that was everything he
was getting his orders from Trump. And then he's like,
oh man, everybody's pissed off. Well, I can't rescind the
order because I'll make Trump mad. So you can bring
your baby to work.

Speaker 3 (27:23):
Your baby to work?

Speaker 1 (27:25):
What?

Speaker 4 (27:26):
Yeah, this is the guy running our state. Hey, I
realized you just shot that shorty out about three months ago.
The thing you're gonna want to do is try to
do some work while it's screaming in your ear.

Speaker 1 (27:36):
You're going to out.

Speaker 2 (27:36):
Start in the Governor's office and the Department of Health
is where that test pilot.

Speaker 1 (27:42):
We are so cooked.

Speaker 2 (27:43):
Casey, It's Kennell and Casey. It's ninety three WYBC.

Speaker 1 (27:59):
Casey, did you ever have like a.

Speaker 4 (28:00):
Super special Christmas wish when you were growing up?

Speaker 2 (28:03):
No? I never had a special wish, but I did
have some special gifts that I got over the years.

Speaker 4 (28:09):
When you were a kid, there was not like one
thing you really wanted, Like, there was not some gift
that stood out to you that you just so badly wanted.

Speaker 2 (28:16):
Okay, well, for the longest time I wanted a monkey,
like a pet monk, like a live monkey. Yeah, like
a chimpanzee, like one of those ones.

Speaker 1 (28:23):
That escaped at the zoop. Yeah you're not getting that.

Speaker 3 (28:26):
No, I know.

Speaker 2 (28:27):
I wasn't getting that, but I was young. I thought, Oh,
they're cute, they're cuddly. I want a monkey. Right. Wait?

Speaker 4 (28:31):
Wait, you realistically thought someone was going to give you.
Your parents weren't shutting that down?

Speaker 3 (28:35):
Well, I mean I didn't really think it was going
to happen.

Speaker 2 (28:38):
We didn't even have a dog when I was growing up, right,
but I it was on my wish list, you said,
a Christmas wish list.

Speaker 4 (28:43):
If you're the lead boy, anything can happen with a pony.

Speaker 2 (28:47):
Well what I did get instead was a stuffed monkey
that my grandma.

Speaker 3 (28:52):
Sewed for me.

Speaker 1 (28:53):
Oh that's way better.

Speaker 3 (28:54):
And I loved that monkey for.

Speaker 2 (28:55):
Years and yeah, so much better.

Speaker 3 (28:57):
Yeah, exactly, it was.

Speaker 2 (28:59):
It was a sentimental gift for many years as I
got older.

Speaker 1 (29:03):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (29:03):
The reason I ask this is because there's a new
every year. It seems like there's an it gift.

Speaker 3 (29:08):
Right, like a new hot toy.

Speaker 4 (29:09):
Yeah m hmm. And this year, that's very interesting. What
the new hot gift is from adults.

Speaker 2 (29:14):
Yeah, Americans just want you to pay their bills.

Speaker 3 (29:18):
That's it. You know what.

Speaker 2 (29:19):
The the desired gift this year is cash. It's the
top holiday gift request, not a gift, many hoping for
more than six hundred dollars, though, like asking for a lot. There,
One in five Americans say help paying their financial their
bills would be the ideal present. Oh yeah, help me

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with my finances.

Speaker 1 (29:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (29:43):
I mean, look, if you're gonna do something nice, so
that's fine. But cash is not a I mean, it
is a gift, right, but it's just like you shouldn't
be asking give me money, right, I.

Speaker 3 (29:52):
Don't know, you know, it seems not very personal, right, but.

Speaker 4 (29:55):
It does show where we're at in our society or
the number one thing on people's mind is just please
give me money.

Speaker 3 (30:00):
It's practical.

Speaker 1 (30:01):
It is, no, it totally is.

Speaker 3 (30:03):
It's not a waste, right, that's something you really need.
Pay my bills.

Speaker 2 (30:09):
People are spending over eleven hundred dollars on gifts. They're
expecting that they'll receive less in return, so they're giving
a lot they're expecting less. But financial stress continues to
cause about forty one percent of people to cut back
after the holidays.

Speaker 4 (30:27):
Other than I don't know, I mean, like when I
was a kid, other than my grandparents, like I stop
getting slash asking for gifts. I think when I was
around like fourteen.

Speaker 2 (30:41):
When you were expected to buy some in return.

Speaker 4 (30:43):
Well, it's like okay to my you know, it was
like with my dad, it was like, if I want someone,
I'm just going to ask you for We don't need
to go some through.

Speaker 1 (30:51):
Some big charade here.

Speaker 4 (30:53):
And as a kid, just like I am now as
basically that child version of a minimalist, right, and so
it's like, I don't know, gifts have never just been
a huge thing to me because whether it's a birthday
or Christmas. You know, my wife wants something, she'll go
buy it, just go get it, just go get it.

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That's the way we are now.

Speaker 1 (31:15):
We have a running joke in my house.

Speaker 4 (31:18):
It's called the credit card bandit because the credit card
band we have this very kind person, Casey. It's very odd,
well kind in the sense that they steal my credit card.

Speaker 1 (31:28):
Sometimes it'll go missing for.

Speaker 4 (31:30):
Days at a time, and then it'll just magically show
back up in my wallet. Like days at a time
it'll go missing, and and and so whenever it goes
back in the wallet, I will look at my wife
and go, oh my gosh, and she'll go what, And
I'll say that kind credit card bandit who racked up
these charges?

Speaker 1 (31:47):
I can see them right line, who did that? And
I said, you would love I.

Speaker 4 (31:50):
Tell my wife, I said, you would love to meet
the credit card bandit because his or her interests are
the exact same as.

Speaker 2 (31:56):
Your Oh isn't that weird? That's so weird that that happens. Yeah,
as you get older, gift giving is it's more difficult
because if you're buying for an adult, just you know,
they don't buy what they want.

Speaker 4 (32:09):
Or work through this with me because I tell my
parents Gabrielle side.

Speaker 1 (32:13):
Of the family, no, no, no gifts. I'd like, there's
nothing I want.

Speaker 4 (32:16):
I'm a minimalist, Like I'm out of space in my
house as it is. Right, But your daughter is twenty
four years old? Do you still get her stuff for Christmas?

Speaker 3 (32:26):
I do? Really, yeah, but you know what it.

Speaker 2 (32:28):
Tends to be stuff like that she won't buy for herself.
It's like once a year sort of oh yeah, like
she likes to use this, she puts this hair oil
stuff on her hair to make it glossy and beautiful.
But it's a little expensive, so she's not going to
buy that regularly for herself.

Speaker 1 (32:48):
Okay, so it's stuff she'll use.

Speaker 3 (32:51):
Yeah, oh, definitely not buy her PlayStation. No, no, we're
long past those.

Speaker 4 (32:55):
Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's fine because that's something
that you would say, I recognize you'll do this for yourself.
I'd like to do this for you. You will use
this all year, so you'll think of me all year.

Speaker 2 (33:04):
Yeah, and she does actually, and she's getting smart too.
She's starting to request consumables, things that she'll use, not
just stuff.

Speaker 1 (33:14):
Do you and your husband do you guys do Christmas gift?

Speaker 2 (33:17):
You know?

Speaker 1 (33:17):
What do you get him? Another? A press? Another presser?

Speaker 2 (33:20):
He what did he buy? He bought himself some light
something or another. I asked him, just somew is some
light for his social media, not like a ring light,
but something like that.

Speaker 3 (33:30):
I don't even know what it is.

Speaker 2 (33:31):
I literally asked him this weekend, what do you want
for Christmas? And he said, oh, I already went on
Amazon and bought it. And they said, well, what is it?
If I'm giving it to you, can you at least
like I won't find out what it is until I
go to wrap it.

Speaker 3 (33:45):
You put it under the tree.

Speaker 4 (33:46):
Oh wait, you're going through the whole process. You're just
to let him have it and start using it. He
has to go through the hole.

Speaker 3 (33:51):
He said.

Speaker 2 (33:51):
It's in his office already, like it came from Amazon.

Speaker 3 (33:55):
I don't know if he's using it or if it's
still in the box.

Speaker 4 (33:58):
But you're actually gonna wrap it up. I will to
open it, even though he may have already used it.

Speaker 2 (34:03):
Yes, so that I can say to our daughter, look
what I bought your dad for Christmas?

Speaker 3 (34:10):
I have no idea even what it is.

Speaker 1 (34:12):
My wife and I, uh, we have never done gifts. Never.

Speaker 4 (34:18):
No, I can't think of anything that I got her.

Speaker 1 (34:25):
Well you know how she is. Yeah, she's worse about
it than I am.

Speaker 3 (34:28):
She'll just go get with you.

Speaker 1 (34:29):
Well that's my point. It's like, why would I the
credit card band? Well, the credit card.

Speaker 4 (34:32):
Bandit will just and why would I get something hold
it for like three or four weeks if she wants
to just let her use it?

Speaker 1 (34:37):
Now, what do I care?

Speaker 2 (34:39):
Well, what do you guys do on Christmas to celebrate
each other?

Speaker 1 (34:42):
Well, we have Olivia. Okay, look at what we made.

Speaker 4 (34:47):
Yes, well got made, but look look at look at
what we participated.

Speaker 1 (34:50):
Right.

Speaker 4 (34:50):
Yeah, it's amazing to me as as gargoylish as I am,
that I have a kid that that's beautiful, That is
that beautiful.

Speaker 2 (34:57):
She is a door.

Speaker 1 (34:57):
It takes after her mother. Yeah, and she one of
my quality.

Speaker 2 (35:00):
She's going to love Christmas this year. Oh yeah, because
she'll understand.

Speaker 4 (35:04):
It and uh yeah yeah yeah, so we're gonna go
see Sannah and all that, all that stuff. So this
is a big and she It's amazing how quick your
kid learns at this age. So like obviously last year
she was too young to understand any right, And within
like a week of showing her the cartoons of Sanna,

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she went from when she would see Santa, she would
point out him and go ho ho ho, And a
week later, Sannah, that's amazing.

Speaker 1 (35:32):
Do you guys have the tree up yet?

Speaker 3 (35:34):
Not yet?

Speaker 1 (35:34):
Very lazy. I need to do that.

Speaker 3 (35:35):
I did it this weekend.

Speaker 4 (35:37):
I was planning on doing it today, however, and I
got to waste several hours of my day going to
talk to those steam people down the street from us.

Speaker 2 (35:42):
Are you going to tell them what you're Number One
Christmas gift item is money.

Speaker 3 (35:47):
Pay your bills.

Speaker 1 (35:49):
Please pay my bills. You're paying everyone else's bills. Can
you please pay mine? All right?

Speaker 2 (35:52):
I'm done, all right, good luck speaking to the Senate
Committee on Redistricting.

Speaker 1 (35:57):
Very glad to see me.

Speaker 2 (35:58):
We're all counting on you. Thank you, Rob, Thank you, Kevin,
Thank you for listening today. This is being Kettling Casey
on ninety three WIBC.