February 17, 2026 • 49 mins
How was our Valentine's Day, why did Rom-Coms use to be better, Cameron's grade school girlfriends, and we read your stories from Reddit!
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There's a new term buzzing on the Internet, Dink.
Dual income? No, kid, you probably have an
opinion on these people or an opinion on people who have an
opinion on these people. America's birth rate has hit its
lowest point in more than a century.
Some are blaming it on infertility.
Others say the state of the world is causing couples to
think twice about having children.
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Childless marriages could be a good thing if they were a result
of God's sovereign providential work.
Oh my God, can't even hear you. They like avocado toast and
brunches out and going to plays and having sweet vacations.
Yeah, you're probably super selfish.
Kids are better than brunch. Wrong.
And then there's another group of young couples that want the
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lifestyle of childless households and the lifestyle it
brings with it. Thanks.
Welcome to The Ding Side, the podcast about life, laughs and
living child free. We're a double income, no kids
couple navigating the UPS, downsand hilarious quick means of
choosing a different path in a world that won't stop asking.
So when are you having kids? When is that happening?
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The answer is never. Here we are on another Monday
after Valentine's Day and we will get into what we did for
Valentine's Day. A couple of other things, plus I
have a ton of stuff from Reddit today.
But I have to start off the pod today babe.
With possibly the most controversial story I've ever
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read in my career. Really.
Not really, but I did see this headline and thought to myself
how would you handle this? And the answer is like I and in
my ideal scenario would be I would hire somebody to create a
television show where we set this up like a hidden camera
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prank show just to see how you would respond.
Here's Here's what happened A passenger on Qatar Airways.
Was asked, first of all, what country is Qatar Airways in?
Qatar. You mean put tar?
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It's pronounced cutter, though that's this is a relatively new
thing. It's a relatively new thing.
You mean the country spelled Qatar?
Yes, Hang on. Hey.
Honey. I'm going to pull up our friend.
No, Oh, my God, hang on. You're going to be, you're going
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to. This one's going to throw you.
This one's going to throw you for a loop.
How many years have you been on this earth?
And how I always used to say Qatar announced his name, as
well as how to say more interesting but often confusing
country names and names from geography.
So make sure to stay tuned again.
Julian, he doesn't. Seem like you say it well.
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A good story. In Arabic it is to be said
Qatar, Qatar. He's a Qatar in.
English, it is generally accepted that it is said as
Qatar, Qatar. So we're both right.
So it's pronounced Qatar, but people in English say Qatar.
Honey, you're not. You need to.
You didn't listen. No, you didn't listen.
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Wait here again. Officially in Arabic, it is to
be said. Qatar.
Qatar, Qatar. You just said two different
words. Qatar is not Qatar.
Listen. Alright, I guess we have to
listen and wait for the I am. Picturing.
I am picturing people listening to this losing their goddamn
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minds. You say that every time.
You say that every time, but then I bring evidence to the
table that what I said was correct and you're like, oh you
dumb idiot you couldn't possiblybe right about.
That also it's acceptable in English to say Qatar and we are
not Arabic, so it's acceptable to.
Proper way to pronounce it because it's.
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Not instead of croissant like. You can say that that's the
proper way of saying it. But you know what the proper way
of saying it is not cutter. Are you trying to paint me out
like some cultureless swine? I don't know.
I just like, can't I? I?
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Well this is already starting off great.
Yet another episode where I get painted the idiot and you're
just mad at things I bring up. No, this is insane.
It's just another word that you're like just pulling out of
your butt. Oh.
My God, you're so frustrating. You're so you say things wrong
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all the time. OK.
I'll bring up a list at some other time in the future.
OK, go ahead. So can.
We well back to the story. So passenger was on an airline.
I had stories out who knows who knows what she was on from
Cincinnati to Dubai and somebodyvideoed this it went viral
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because she is a 21 year old as a graduation gift to herself,
she did the business class seat like one of those pods and the
ticket price was 7000 dollars, $7000 for her ticket.
So she gets on the plane and right after she sits down, a
woman next to her asked if she could swap seats with her
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daughter in economy class. What?
This lady who also had a pod goes up to the student who spent
$7000 on her pod and said would you be willing to switch with my
daughter back in coach? I would be arrested so fast.
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From Cincinnati to Dubai. Did she just laugh in her face?
She laughed in her face. The student said obviously no
because that's not like if she was in a business class seat.
Sure, what does it matter? Yeah, I can do that.
But the IT, it went like 3 stepsfurther because the mom called
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the airline like she, they, theyessentially they were trying to
get the, the staff of the airline involved, like the cabin
crew. But they said obviously we can't
ask this passenger to move back to economy when she spent $7000
on her ticket. So the mom again gets on the
phone and starts screaming at them, starts screaming at this
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21 year old girl. And finally, the girl said the
only reason tensions were able to calm down is because her
little pod thing had a door and she shut it.
That's so funny because I was going to say now she can't even
enjoy her experience. I know, but it reminded me of
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the time you and I were on that Frontier Airlines flight.
Yeah, that pisses me off. She's so entitled.
The oh, my kid deserves to sit where you're sitting more than
you, even though you spent your hard earned money on this and
you're treating yourself. And now that poor girl's
experience, like, yeah, tensionscalm down 'cause she closed the
door, but she was probably still, like, stewing about it
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and rattled for hours of the flight.
And knowing that, like, she could probably couldn't just
like, sit there and sleep and enjoy and, like, vibe out in her
$7000 seat. She probably was sitting there
like upset and afraid to open the door.
My thing yeah, 100% I. Hope that the airline people
like gave her special stuff and like drinks and stuff.
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I would hope so. I mean, The thing is she's
already in the $7000 seat, so she's probably getting all the
freebies to begin with. So I don't know what they could
throw at her that would that would help things.
But yeah, if I was her, I'd be afraid to open that door, at
least anxious about opening the door.
And the other. On the other hand though, like I
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do feel like if I was in that situation and somebody
approached me and asked that, itwould be such a ridiculous
question that I don't even know if I'd get upset.
No I wouldn't at first, but if she kept, if she was calling
people and yelling at people andcussing at people and whatever,
I would get arrested. They would have to lay on the
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plane somewhere because we wouldn't make it to Dubai.
I would lose my ever loving shit.
That plane wouldn't make it out of Ohio.
But yeah, that reminds me of when that mom, like forced us to
try to. She tried to move us to sit with
her kid who was like 17. That was the best thing ever.
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Yeah. You and I had a couple seats
together. This mom asked if she could
switch her kid to the aisle seatwe had because she was sitting
across the aisle or something like that.
And she got so pissed. She kept saying, what do you
mean you want switch? That's my child.
That's my child. And we're like, yeah, who's able
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to drive a car? They're so old.
Right, it's not a lap child, it's a teenager that doesn't
care to be near you anyways. It was so weird and that.
It was so weird and we paid for those seats and then she made a
huge scene about it. And you know what's craziest
about that story is that was badenough, and then that flight to
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Atlanta ended up landing in Nashville.
Yeah, that flight was cursed forsure.
It. Was like the worst airport
airline situation of our entire lives I think.
I've had a lot. Well, that's true.
Maybe of my life, Yeah. Anyway, I thought you would love
that one again on Qatar slash Qatar Airlines.
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Honey. However you want to say it, the
jury's out. Nobody knows how it's actually
pronounced. I need desperately need people
to DM us their opinion. That's fine.
I will look up news broadcast footage like from CNN and stuff.
This is the way that people say it now.
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Believe me, it was an adjustmentbecause I was a part of several
conversations over the last yearor two where people were like,
it's not Qatar. Dumb dumb so.
But it's also not Qatar. It's in between the two.
That's a risky, risky thing to pronounce in between, you know
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what I mean? Anyway, hope you all had a Happy
Valentine's Day. You know what I was thinking
last week was I really miss those dumb little paper
Valentine's we used to send eachother in school.
Really. Yeah, I really do.
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It was like, you know, you remember, at least not in my
school. We took an old tissue box and,
like, made it our little mailbox, Valentine's mailbox.
And then everybody passed their little notes around.
And I remember it being so like,gossipy a little bit like, oh, I
wonder if so and so is going to give so and so 10.
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They like each other. Oh, because everybody got one.
But like, if you like somebody, you would give them like a
different 1 so they knew and youknow what I mean?
What? Do you mean like in the box you
would pick the best card for them?
Yeah, or like the fancy one or the one that looked like it said
I love you instead of just like you have a nice smile.
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And I always thought it was funny too, because my, this,
this will come no surprise to you, but all of the kids in my
class would have like the, you know, the cool one, the rocket
power one or whatever it was when we were kids.
And I would usually get mine, I think at Dollar Tree every year.
So the ones I got, the ones I got were like either off brand
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or like 3 years behind the trend.
So it would be like when kids are doing something cool.
I, I have like the Blues clues one that I'm giving out, You
know what I mean? God.
Classic. But God, I remember that being
so like got like vivid and I could feel that experience
coursing through my veins of howmuch like, you know, you're so
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nervous about who's going to give you 1.
And then there was like the not everybody in my school at least,
you were not required to give one to everybody.
And so I think everyone just gave them to everyone.
I don't know. That we definitely all like in
my, I remember like fifth grade,maybe 6th grade of the 20 kids
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in my class, we started doing the math.
We're like, you didn't get one. Well, I got AI got, you know,
this Rugrats 1 and you got the Rugrats run.
You didn't get one. Oh my God, Dylan didn't give you
a Valentine? Oh.
So much drama. That was sad.
I know middle school was it was whack, but I love the.
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Start the bullying. And did you ever have did they
ever come to your classroom and and deliver roses?
What? Did they ever?
They didn't do that at your school.
No. So it was like a thing that they
would sell to parents and grandparents and stuff.
So on Valentine's Day, there would be like roses on your desk
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if your mom or dad wanted to buyyou one or your.
Grandparents. That's sad, because then
there's. People, I never go.
Any. I never got 1 and I listen, I
don't doubt that my parents loveme, but like that extra
accoutrement I was never really a part of, you know what I mean?
But to be fair, there was alwayslike the same 3 kids that really
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got it. It's not like everybody got it
and I didn't. But did you walk in and there's
a ton of roses? Oh yeah, yeah.
On everyone's desk. Not except like 3.
Oh OK. Except like 3 people.
Like was it over half? I would say probably over half,
yeah, probably. And then was there like 2 girls
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that had like 20 roses, a ton more roses than other people.
It was it was the girls. There was a couple girls that
had a ton of roses and then there was like 2 boys that were
like totally mama's boys, you know what I mean?
Oh God. There were these two kids who
like remember this friend of mine, Kyle when I was a kid, he,
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he got one year, he got APS 2 inhis Easter basket like from his
fucking mom. You know, I have heard about
Kyle getting APS 2 for Easter for years.
It's like scarred you. It pisses me off because even at
that age I was like, this is this is out of hand, What are
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you doing? This is Easter anyway.
Anyway, anyway, we don't really.I guess when we were first
dating. Do you have memories of what we
did for Valentine's? Like we would definitely go on a
date that was, that's always. Yeah, but like one of the first
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Valentine's we were together. I thought you were proposing.
That's right. You made me like a photo book of
people across the country holding up a sign that says
Cameron loves you. And I was like, it's happening.
He's proposing. That would have been so early
though. It wasn't the first Valentine, I
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think it was the second. Oh no, it was the first
Valentine's. Actually, it was.
Are you sure? Yeah, no, I have vivid memories
of it. I It was the first Valentine's,
but it was a like we started dating in May and it was the
next February. So it was like the nine month
mark in hindsight, bit of a swing it was.
Insane. It's crazy.
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But what did you feel about it at the time?
I was in case you didn't. In case you haven't noticed, I
was very excited to be dating you.
It was great, Yeah. I just was like, oh wow, he's
proposing. It's happening.
Would you have said yes? I think so because I was like, I
mean, I moved in with you already, you know what I mean?
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I know, but I'm not a slight against you, but you had moved
in with other boyfriends in the past.
How dare you? Did any of them try to propose a
six months? No, no.
But we already moved in togetherand we had a dog together.
Like there was a lot happening. So me, I probably would have
said yes. I'm pretty sure that one of my
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friends was, I, maybe multiple asked me if I was proposing.
And at that point, I probably should have been like, oh, I
need to cool it a little bit, Yeah.
When when people thought you were proposing, it would have
been a good idea to to rethink. But if you think about it like
after our first date, I think within, I mean what, a couple of
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hours we were texting each otherabout how much fun we had and
wanted to go on another date. Yeah, I.
So I, I think, I think off the heels of that, I'm like, fuck
it, I, I didn't like reserve my thoughts and feelings at that
point, Why do it now? But then it took you 4 years to
propose. No, I'm talking about the card
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the the first Valentine's Day thing.
Oh, OK. Is there some resentment over
the four year proposal? No, I guess not.
When there was definitely the phase that we did like little,
you know, like a coupon book or something like that.
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Sure, but we did. We've never done big gifts or
anything. No, we've never really done big
gifts. We've done big gifts for like a
birthday or something like that.But even now we pretty much
don't do gifts. We do experiences.
We go on dates, things like that.
There was like Valentine's Day 2022 or something, the D-Day,
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the day that we miscommunicated apparently, and you didn't get a
card. Yeah, that was and now this year
I got 6 cards so. I think I'm still making up for
it. I I, I don't feel that I'm fully
there yet. I got a card every day of the
week, yeah. We did a few things this week.
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We or this past week, we we wentto the escape room, we went on
our second date and we tried to rehash that same room and win
this time and we indeed lost second time in a row.
We we lost again. We did not escape.
You were like, you were overly confident we would get out.
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I was pretty confident because this was the first escape room I
had ever done and I thought, OK,I've done enough now where I
feel like I could get through it, be more perceptive.
I got to be honest, it's been a while since we've done one.
I felt really bad at it. We just did it.
So it's the basement LA and it'sthe elevator shaft.
For anyone that's listening, that's local.
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Try it. Let us know if you get out.
On our first date, they told us we got like 15% of the way
through the room. And this time they said we got
95% of the way through the room.We were on the last step, we
just didn't get out in time and that makes me feel a little
better, but it doesn't make me feel a lot better.
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I just don't think that this is.I think you're very good at it.
I just maybe this isn't my strong suit.
If I was very good at it, we still would have gotten out
well, but I'm not that good at. It but I'm just just to give the
listener an example. There is a part in this escape
room where you have to, one person has to go down a shaft
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and I elected to go down the shaft this time.
And there's a bunch of things down there that are required to
beat the game and I pretty much didn't see like 4 of them.
You specifically said out loud there's nothing here.
In fact, there was like 7 thingsdown there.
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There was like so much there to see and do and you were like, I
don't know. My brain also like, so there's a
one point in the game and again,I don't think you could go with
all these tips and probably still not beat it.
There's one point in the game where you need an electrical
wire. Like you need to go find an
electrical wire. And halfway down this shaft
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there's a place where there's like a bunch of exposed wires.
And I just assumed I shouldn't touch those because those are
real wires. Yeah.
And then I kept going. We need another wire.
Are there any where are there some wires?
And you're like, oh, maybe I should go back.
And then there was just employees beating on the walls,
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yelling hands through the the walls at mostly me.
It was a lot to deal with. Yeah, I don't know.
I I like escape rooms. It's funny because I I'd like
doing them with you when we're in the same room.
This was like a game of telephone.
So it was harder. I really don't like when we're
in a group of 10 people because those are really bad.
That's a bad experience. So we did that.
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We did a handful of other things.
And then on Friday, we went and saw for the first time for both
of us, Sleepless in Seattle. Yeah, I it's like a classic that
everyone talks about, I feel like.
Tom Hanks, Meg Ryan. What did you think?
I. Enjoyed it, it was delightful.
I thought it was very cute. I really liked it and when we
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walked out I said I wish that. I wish that more movies like
that existed. I don't want real life.
I know now we have to watch You've Got Mail cause isn't that
also them? Yeah, you've got mail.
I still. Never seen that either.
Basically all of those 90s ROM coms, because it's like the end
of Sleepless in Seattle to spoilit.
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You know, if you're worried about spoilers, maybe, maybe go
watch the movie from 35 years ago.
The end of the movie, Tom Hanks and Meg Ryan meet each other for
the first time on top of the Empire State Building, somewhat
by design, somewhat by accident and circumstance.
And like, that's something that definitely would not happen in
real life. And I like that.
It doesn't need to be possible. Also, why wouldn't it happen in
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real life? Well, I it's a little stalkery.
That is one thing that I thoughtabout the movie.
There's like some stalker behavior.
A little, but because they're pretty, she's pretty and he's
handsome, they think it's fine. Right, right.
Everybody is like an eligible bachelor or Bachelorette.
He's like, oh, this Pretty Womanis following me.
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Right. The other thing that I thought
was unrealistic but I was OK with it was Meg Ryan's character
is engaged to another man and she falls in love with Tom Hanks
voice on a radio show and towards the end of the movie.
What do you mean? So what are you trying to tell
me? Why do you think that's
unrealistic? I didn't get to the finish line
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yet. Oh, OK.
The unrealistic part is when shesits down to break up with her
fiance and he's like I understand, go ahead go get him.
Yeah, he didn't seem to care at all.
It was so weird. Like I did actually like the kid
in the movie. I know I thought he was cute.
I thought he was a good little actor and I liked him enough
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that I looked him up in the car on the way home and he basically
only did that movie like a couple other things, and now
he's a car salesman in Van Nuys.At keys At keys.
Van Nuys. Keys, keys, keys.
Keys. Keys on Van Nuys.
So yeah, it was an interesting trajectory for that.
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I do think that 90s movies had better kid actors, and I wonder
why. Probably because child labor
laws didn't. Right, they were all
traumatized. They they were overworked and
overtrained. OK, sure.
That's probably why. Got it.
You know, I don't like, did you ever get set up with like, a
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fake girlfriend as a kid? Like, oh, is that your
girlfriend? Like when you were just talking
about getting Valentine's in your shoe box, Did you?
Because I think that's stupid and that's annoying.
And I was talking about this with some friends recently that
my best friend set up her brother with this girl and they
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wrote fake love letters to the girl from him and then to him
from the girl and we're like setting him up and he was like
5. What?
I know. And I'm like, that's crazy.
I've never been a part of something that level.
I I just always had like when I was a kid, probably 5 or 6, I
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remember being like, oh, that's Cameron's girlfriend or
whatever. I'm like, I don't even know what
that means. But there was no like love
letter writing or whatever. I think I yeah, I don't.
I don't get it. It's weird, you're like low key
sexualizing kids when you do that.
You're sexualizing kids and you're assigning them a
sexuality. Right.
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I think adults do it to make themselves feel more comfortable
and it's. Weird and adults who are really
sad and don't have somebody to love them or have an unhappy
relationship or trying to force love on the children.
I think it's so weird. I don't like it and I don't I
don't like it when people do it with dogs either.
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How do people do it with dogs? Like at the dog park or whatever
they'll be like, that's his girlfriend, you know what I
mean? I mean, I guess with dogs, dogs
sometimes hump each other. So it's.
Like A and I feel like it's pretty obvious when dogs like
each other or when they don't. Yeah, but like two kids that are
like, I don't know, I just sit next to you and like color.
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It's weird, I remember from a very young age, just like
girlfriends and boyfriends and dating being a thing way too
early on. Yeah, I.
Don't know. Like way, way too early.
Maybe it's not as much with kidsnow because it's a little more
taboo, but I don't know. I feel like I still see it
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happening. How old were you when you had
your first boyfriend? 16 I was like banned from it
until I was 16. OK.
What about you? I had like, I think my first
girlfriend was like in 7th grade.
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How old are you in? I don't know how old people are
in each grade. I don't know, like probably 12,
probably maybe 11-12. I mean, look at that.
Google it. How old are you?
In 7th grade? Yeah, 12 or 13.
That feels early. Yeah, but it's like, what is it?
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It's just the girl that you hangout with at school a lot.
That's a. You know what I mean?
Did you kiss? No, no.
Did you hold hands? Not with that girlfriend, no.
I think the first time I held hands was like in 8th grade.
You didn't even hold her hand. No, I In fact, I'm freshman year
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of high school. I don't think freshman year
girlfriend. Wait, freshman year of high
school. This memory just came back to
me. I forget this girl's name, but I
your boyfriend and girlfriend. Every teacher?
Wait, you can remember every teacher's first and last and
fucking middle initial? I had way more girlfriends than
I did teachers. OK.
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What? I'm kidding.
You can remember every single teacher you've ever had, but you
can't remember a literal girlfriend.
That can remember every No, I can remember every teacher in
elementary and middle school. Once I get up to high school I
it's gone. You mean the years that are
closer to your current age are harder to?
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Remember, because I had multipleteachers, once I had multiple
teachers, it was out the window.But you didn't have that many
girlfriends. No, I mean I just had I, I feel
like an average amount. I had one in 7th grade and I had
one in 8th grade. And then my freshman year I I
was boyfriend and girlfriend with this girl for about one
day. You were boyfriend and
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girlfriend. You were her boyfriend.
We were we were boyfriend and girlfriend.
You know what? I.
Mean. OK, OK, yeah, don't mince.
My words for one day and I triedto hold her hand and she said I
was moving too fast. And then she broke up with me
publicly, I will say, in front of many other people.
Like she don't wait. Like she ripped her hand away
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and was like you. Whore.
Yes. What the fuck?
Yeah, it was. It was weird.
Were you like, so embarrassed? Yeah, it's also I hate my
freshman year of high school. Least favorite year of school in
my entire life. It was awful.
And that's probably the case fora lot of people.
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Did everyone after that moment was was like, oh he's the hand
holder? I don't really know.
I just left the school if I'm being honest.
That was my first and last year at that school.
Did you leave because of that? No, I left because I hated it in
general. And it was also a Lutheran high
school and like, I felt like I was smarter than all my teachers
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and like, I was like, I got to get out of here.
You're wasting your money, Mom and dad, you.
Know. Yeah, you probably were.
And then I had and then I, I played baseball that year, but
they, they only let me like playsometimes.
I was essentially A glorified equipment manager and I won like
everybody else at the end of theyear, baseball banquet won like
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awards. Like one kid won like best
pitcher award, another kid won like most runs batted in award.
I won like the spirit award. I'm like, I got to get the fuck
out of here. What am I doing?
This is so. No, it was just, I think that's
freshman year is probably rough for most people, I would
imagine. Yeah, because it's at that part
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where you're like, you're ditching your old friends and
you're getting your new ones. Or am I still friends with you?
Or is it not cool to be friends with you?
And like, it's a mess. High school sucks.
High school is the worst. You couldn't pay me to go back.
Oh my God, no. I for I, I think the earliest I
can remember was like 4th or 5thgrade and I'm like, I got to get
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the fuck out of school. You know.
Like I couldn't stand it. Anyway, I digress.
Sleepless in Seattle, good movie.
Go see. We're going to watch You Got
Mail too, because 90s rules. So do Meg Ryan and Tom Hanks.
Big week. This week we're prepping for
your short film debut. Yeah.
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We're doing the short that you wrote, which is very exciting.
That I originally came up with the idea for on this podcast.
That's. Right, so previously.
Called mostly true opinions, butit's fine.
When we say things like trademark, copyright, and like
we're going to go do that, we mean it's true.
It's true. All of the Shark Tank businesses
(31:54):
I brought up on this podcast, they're underway.
LLCS have been filed. Yeah, don't you fucking dare try
stealing any of them. But no, it's very exciting.
I bring it up because this is a,we are not rolling deep.
I want to just be very clear, we're not like rich, rich or
anything like that. We just we.
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This is a benefit of living the way that we do, as as members of
the DINK society, as the membersof the DINK.
Life. When you get a tax return,
instead of putting it towards a college fund, you just make a
short film. Yeah, and.
You know, we're doing it, I would say very thanks to all of
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your efforts. Very.
It's going to look great. It's going to sound great.
It's going to be great because it's a great script, but also
we're doing it kind of gorilla style to keep costs down and.
We're pulling a lot of favors. Almost all the locations are
free except one, and all of our friends that are very talented
are mostly all doing me favors. But that's the cool part is,
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first of all, they're very sweet, but also they're all very
good at what they do. They are.
And like, they would have been honest with me and they read the
script and they were down and said that it was cool.
Yeah. So if they didn't want to do it,
they could. They just would say no.
But I do feel like it's a it's aculmination of you've been in
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acting class with this one particular place for about a
year and you wrote this script. It was a goal of yours.
You hopped to it. It was your idea.
It was it's all very like synchronous.
It's coming together. I think it's going to be fun.
It'll. Be good.
Yeah, I'm looking forward to it.And I'm going to put your name
on the little Clapper thing and it's going to be so official.
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Whoa. It's going to be like, what?
Whoa, it's Hollywood, baby. Whoa.
Ow. OK, lots to get to from Reddit.
Hit me. There's some questions, there's
some rants, there's just some just because things.
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These are all pulled from Dink the Dink Reddit and the child
free Reddit, both very good places if you're looking for
this kind of content. And here's one I'll start with.
And this is something I think weall can agree with, you and me
certainly. And this is so on theme.
Somebody wrote. I love not worrying about my
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biological clock. There's so many women in my life
who are desperately looking for a guy to marry or settle for
complete losers just because they're getting closer to 30.
And not worrying about any of that shit is so nice.
That's all. Just wanted to share with like
minded people, that's all. How true is that?
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Yeah, not. That's just never even begun to
cross my mind. I'm worried about time as a
general construct, you know, I'mworried about my life as a
general arc. Yeah.
Hoping I'm doing enough, being enough, seeing enough for the
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age that I am, but I'm not worried about if my eggs are
decaying within me. Right.
And how? Many are left.
The concept of, and so many people have had this experience,
the concept of being like in a relationship with somebody and,
and having that moment where it's like, this is good enough.
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Oh my God. Yeah.
Or like I'll just stick with himand hopefully get pregnant and
then divorce him later or whatever.
Like, some women literally do that just to have a baby, and
they're like, yeah, he's not a keeper, but at least he'll give
me a baby. I know that's crazy.
There's movies made about this. And it's, it's a result of like,
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there's so much pressure to havekids.
And so we, we, our stance on this is if you are, if you want
a kid, we respect you And like, we, we hope that that goes well.
And we have a lot of friends that have kids or want to have
kids. And that's cool.
But the idea that like, there's so much pressure on you to then
marry somebody you don't really want to marry and then have a
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kid with somebody you don't really want to be with that.
How do you think that's going towork out?
Not great. And this other person on Reddit
put it this way. And this is like, it's one of
those things that you and I talkabout, we talk about on the
podcast. But when it's spelled out this
way, it's like, holy shit. That is, I think we made the
right move for us. They say it's actually insane
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that anyone wants to have kids. You basically go from not having
freedom due to being underage tonot having freedom because
you're responsible for other people that are underage.
Let's say you move out at 18. Yeah, you have two kids, one at
30, the second at 33. Your kids move out at 18.
That mean while you could have had 27 years of youth and
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freedom, you've given up 15 years of them to have kids.
Damn, because then yeah, you so from 18 to 30.
So you were only free for 12 years and that's if you wait
till 30 to have kids? That's if you wait till 30 my.
Parents had me at 27 I think. When my parents had me at 20, I
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think my brother when they were 22 or 23 and then me when they
were 25 or 26. Oh my God.
Yeah, so they say that that means you give up 55% of your
best adult years. That's oh, and again, no shame
to people who do it, do it well and love it.
That's good for you. But my God, that is not.
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That is not our path. That's not a statistic I'm
comfortable with. No, not at all.
And then some people would say, oh, but it's worth it.
You know, Of course there's, of course when you're giving up one
thing, you're gaining another. Sure.
I'm just not willing to do it. Yeah, I, I, I like hearing
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stories about it, but not, you know, not experiencing it.
This is super clever. OK, We always talk about why
aren't there more restaurants ormovie theaters or airplanes that
have adults only policies? And the truth is, depending on
where you live, a lot of places don't do this or can't do this
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because it's considered discriminatory.
OK, sure. But there's a restaurant
somebody found that they said does a really clever work
around. And I think this is great and I
hope that more people notice this and and take suit, OK?
OK, OK, follow. Suit, they said.
They yes. Follow suit.
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Qatar Airlines, they said they reserved a table on the website
and they got this confirmation text that said great thanks.
Your reservation is concerned. Confirmed at the restaurant for
brunch tomorrow. Your table is for three at 1:30
PM. As a family owned and operated
restaurant, we welcome all families to dine with us.
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Please be advised, however, we do not have child seating
options on premises. We will do our best to
accommodate seating if you choose to bring a booster seat,
but we cannot guarantee its compatibility with our dining
room furniture. Thank you in advance for
understanding. So basically they're saying
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we're not going to have those high chairs or booster seats on
site if you want to bring one, which nobody's going to remember
to do. No, Yeah.
What? And if it fits our chair, so
like somebody can even bring 1 and they bring it inside and
they're going to be like, ah, that doesn't fit the chair.
Sorry. They got the kids, got to go
out. And stay at home like.
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OK, this is a pretty clever workaround.
Are they getting ripped a new asshole on on Yelp though?
Probably. Maybe.
I don't know though, because also if it's a, no disrespect to
family places, but like if it's a trendier place, no people that
go online and look and see a negative review because they're
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not allowed to have kids, that'sactually a positive review.
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, you know what I mean.
That's so interesting. Yeah, more places should just
start not offering child friendly seating.
I think it's a good idea becauseeven if you're not sitting next
to the booth or sitting next to the kid that's standing up on
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the chair or making a mess, there's always screaming,
there's always crying. I mean, or they have the iPad
that's on full blast. Sure right, no headphones.
I don't know if it actually really deters enough people
though. The child friendly seating.
Cause breweries don't have high chairs and booster seats and
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somehow they're still playgrounds.
Yeah, but they don't have the rule in place that they, like,
can sit on a chair without it, you know what I mean?
Sure. I don't know.
Breweries are largely playground.
I think that's why a lot of themare closing down.
Honestly, they got too LAX with that stuff.
I mean, what else? It's just crazy.
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Like when I, when we went as kids, I remember what did we do
sitting at a table, We colored. That was a very that was a quiet
way to keep us busy. I don't see coloring books in
the wild much. Never.
Or those placemats that you could color on or anything like
that. I used to love doing that when
we went out to eat. OK, this one's going to piss you
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off. Oh great.
This is one thing I do worry about with the people that we
know who have babies and if you're listening, people we know
that have babies, we will still come see your baby and spend
time with it and love and appreciate it.
However, this is a risk. This person posted on the child
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free Reddit and said one afternoon with a friend's baby
and now I've got pink eye. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no. No, my friend brought her baby
to my place a couple of days ago.
When she mentioned the kid had just started going to nursery, I
literally thought oh here we go,watch me go down with some of
the most dreadful illnesses in the next week.
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I was thinking cold, flu, something like that.
Turns out one week the kid comeshome with conjunctivitis, gives
it to the mom. The pair of them have it, but
the mom did not mention any of them having it before they got
to my house. Now I feel like I have gravel in
my eye. Oh my God, why are babies such
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disease ridden creatures? And why do people think well?
Some of them aren't, some of them are.
And why do people think that being sick as a baby is any less
contagious than when you're an adult?
Or it's somehow cuter? It's a great question.
No, it's so real. Like, no one cares when their
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kids open mouth coughing in public or on a plane or telling
them to cover their mouth. I don't see anyone tell anyone
to cover their mouth anymore. And also so casually, like one
of my friends was like, I was atcoffee with her and she's like,
Oh yeah, my son just got over RSV.
I'm like, how do you know you don't have it right now?
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Like, I don't think that. I don't think it's something
adults can get, but I don't wantto know.
I don't want to find out. I don't know it just it just
makes I'm like having phantom itching right now.
In general, I feel like we that should have been a COVID take
away, like the hey, if you're sick maybe don't come and enter
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my place. And yet I feel like it still
happens all the time. And at work specifically,
there's people in my office who are just always coming in sick.
And I'm like, hey man, stop. You're literally sitting across
from me sneezing and coughing your face off.
Maybe don't come in. It's disrespectful.
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It's disrespectful. We don't do work that requires
you to be like on a constructionsite.
If you're really sick, you can probably do 90% of this at home.
What are we doing? Yeah.
I just thought like, I don't know, social distancing's out
the window. I do miss it sometimes.
OK last but not least here I thought this was a good one to
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end on for anyone that is like us or anyone that is looking for
a little bit more freedom in life.
They say As someone who was looking for work, I can't
comprehend what it would be likeif kids were in the mix.
It seems like any setbacks or mistakes I make won't have as
serious a consequences as when kids are involved.
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Better way of putting it is I feel like I have more room to
fall down and pick myself back up.
I wonder how many people have been or are dealing with any
hardships have to think about atleast one positive thing and
that involves not having children.
That seems like the one thing I'm grateful for.
A lot of people say their kids are their motivation, but the
thought of not having children seems pretty motivating to me.
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Yeah. I really like that.
Yeah, because you're not hurtinganyone else if you make a
mistake. You have more freedom to like,
figure it out. Yeah.
And I think that's super powerful.
And I think that's a responsibility thing too.
Like it would be imagine tomorrow you and I both got
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fired from both of our jobs. It would be stressful.
It would definitely be stressful, but we would figure
it out. If we had a child, that would be
incredibly terrifying. Right.
And also, not having health insurance for yourself is one
thing, but not having health insurance for a baby, Yeah.
I don't even know how that works.
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You know what, to be honest, I'dprobably try to file it under
the pet insurance. We had a family friend of ours
growing up. Did I ever tell you this story?
The I forget their names but. A family friend you can't
remember either, but you can remember all these teachers.
I forget your last name. It was, it was like my brother's
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friend and his parents, you know, they were just around all
the time. But I do remember that they were
really good friends with a veterinarian.
And so when any of the kids weresick or needed something, they
would most of the time go to theveterinarian that they knew.
That's. So before going to the hospital.
Honey, that's so backwoods. I know it is.
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You kidding me? I know it is.
But I've now that I think about it, it kind of makes sense.
I have pet insurance. We have pet insurance.
Maybe we try to file something under the dog's name?
Sure. I mean, we realize that humans
and dogs are taking gabapentin. It's all the same.
Yeah, all the medication's the exact same.
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Why not? Yeah.
Anyway, that's what I was able to find from Reddit this week.
There we go. It's chock full of stuff in
there. Chock full of stuff.
A lot of people looking for advice or rants.
There's a lot of rants in there.There's a lot of rants like
advice I'm. Willing to give advice.
There's just a lot of people sounding off and, and, and
(47:40):
looking for people in the comment section to be like,
yeah, I hear you. I go through this too.
Actually, one of the other things I saw that I meant to
mention real quick before we go is I think the narrative is that
a lot, there's a lot of men out there who don't want kids, who
have a hard time dating because they're like girlfriends want
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kids and stuff. And based on my research on the
Reddit pages, the opposite is true.
There's a lot of women who are having a really hard time
finding dudes who don't want to have kids.
Yeah, on all the dating shows, it seems like all these guys
want to have kids. I know.
But for some reason, we've spun the narrative that it's like,
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you know, oh, she wants to have kids or whatever.
I think more dudes want to have kids because more dudes are like
my lineage. And also, yeah, I might want to
have a kid a little bit more if I didn't have to carry it and
like, make it and feel like a deathly wail and whatever.
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And also there's a million otherreasons I don't want to.
But like, maybe, just maybe it would be less hard to think
about as a dude if you don't really have to do much and you
just, oh, my lineage. I don't know.
I just think the guys want it more for those extra reasons.
I agree. They want, they want, they want
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an air. Sure.
Yeah, to their. Uber.
Fortune, I just. It's like, what do I care?
I'm going to be dead. I don't, you know what I mean?
Yeah. It's like good in theory, but
also I'm not going to be able tolike see you do anything.
I don't know. Anyway, that's it gang.
We hope you have a good week. Anything else, babe?
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Oh man, I thought of something and then you brought that up,
dammit. It's OK, we can write it down
for next time. OK, bye.
There's a new term buzzing on the Internet, Dink.
Dual income? No, kid, you probably have an
opinion on these people or an opinion on people who have an
opinion on these people. America's birth rate has hit its
lowest point in more than a century.
Some are blaming it on infertility.
Others say the state of the world is causing couples to
think twice about having children.
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Childless marriages could be a good thing if they were a result
of God's sovereign providential work.
Oh my God, can't even hear you. They like avocado toast and
brunches out and going to plays and having sweet vacations.
Yeah, you're probably super selfish.
Kids are better than brunch. Wrong.
And then there's another group of young couples that want the
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lifestyle of childless households and the lifestyle it
brings with it. Thanks.
Welcome to The Ding Side, the podcast about life, laughs and
living child free. We're a double income, no kids
couple navigating the UPS, downsand hilarious quick means of
choosing a different path in a world that won't stop asking.
So when are you having kids? When is that happening?
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The answer is never. Here we are on another Monday
after Valentine's Day and we will get into what we did for
Valentine's Day. A couple of other things, plus I
have a ton of stuff from Reddit today.
But I have to start off the pod today babe.
With possibly the most controversial story I've ever
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read in my career. Really.
Not really, but I did see this headline and thought to myself
how would you handle this? And the answer is like I and in
my ideal scenario would be I would hire somebody to create a
television show where we set this up like a hidden camera
(01:49):
prank show just to see how you would respond.
Here's Here's what happened A passenger on Qatar Airways.
Was asked, first of all, what country is Qatar Airways in?
Qatar. You mean put tar?
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It's pronounced cutter, though that's this is a relatively new
thing. It's a relatively new thing.
You mean the country spelled Qatar?
Yes, Hang on. Hey.
Honey. I'm going to pull up our friend.
No, Oh, my God, hang on. You're going to be, you're going
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to. This one's going to throw you.
This one's going to throw you for a loop.
How many years have you been on this earth?
And how I always used to say Qatar announced his name, as
well as how to say more interesting but often confusing
country names and names from geography.
So make sure to stay tuned again.
Julian, he doesn't. Seem like you say it well.
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A good story. In Arabic it is to be said
Qatar, Qatar. He's a Qatar in.
English, it is generally accepted that it is said as
Qatar, Qatar. So we're both right.
So it's pronounced Qatar, but people in English say Qatar.
Honey, you're not. You need to.
You didn't listen. No, you didn't listen.
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Wait here again. Officially in Arabic, it is to
be said. Qatar.
Qatar, Qatar. You just said two different
words. Qatar is not Qatar.
Listen. Alright, I guess we have to
listen and wait for the I am. Picturing.
I am picturing people listening to this losing their goddamn
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minds. You say that every time.
You say that every time, but then I bring evidence to the
table that what I said was correct and you're like, oh you
dumb idiot you couldn't possiblybe right about.
That also it's acceptable in English to say Qatar and we are
not Arabic, so it's acceptable to.
Proper way to pronounce it because it's.
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Not instead of croissant like. You can say that that's the
proper way of saying it. But you know what the proper way
of saying it is not cutter. Are you trying to paint me out
like some cultureless swine? I don't know.
I just like, can't I? I?
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Well this is already starting off great.
Yet another episode where I get painted the idiot and you're
just mad at things I bring up. No, this is insane.
It's just another word that you're like just pulling out of
your butt. Oh.
My God, you're so frustrating. You're so you say things wrong
(04:47):
all the time. OK.
I'll bring up a list at some other time in the future.
OK, go ahead. So can.
We well back to the story. So passenger was on an airline.
I had stories out who knows who knows what she was on from
Cincinnati to Dubai and somebodyvideoed this it went viral
(05:11):
because she is a 21 year old as a graduation gift to herself,
she did the business class seat like one of those pods and the
ticket price was 7000 dollars, $7000 for her ticket.
So she gets on the plane and right after she sits down, a
woman next to her asked if she could swap seats with her
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daughter in economy class. What?
This lady who also had a pod goes up to the student who spent
$7000 on her pod and said would you be willing to switch with my
daughter back in coach? I would be arrested so fast.
(05:52):
From Cincinnati to Dubai. Did she just laugh in her face?
She laughed in her face. The student said obviously no
because that's not like if she was in a business class seat.
Sure, what does it matter? Yeah, I can do that.
But the IT, it went like 3 stepsfurther because the mom called
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the airline like she, they, theyessentially they were trying to
get the, the staff of the airline involved, like the cabin
crew. But they said obviously we can't
ask this passenger to move back to economy when she spent $7000
on her ticket. So the mom again gets on the
phone and starts screaming at them, starts screaming at this
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21 year old girl. And finally, the girl said the
only reason tensions were able to calm down is because her
little pod thing had a door and she shut it.
That's so funny because I was going to say now she can't even
enjoy her experience. I know, but it reminded me of
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the time you and I were on that Frontier Airlines flight.
Yeah, that pisses me off. She's so entitled.
The oh, my kid deserves to sit where you're sitting more than
you, even though you spent your hard earned money on this and
you're treating yourself. And now that poor girl's
experience, like, yeah, tensionscalm down 'cause she closed the
door, but she was probably still, like, stewing about it
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and rattled for hours of the flight.
And knowing that, like, she could probably couldn't just
like, sit there and sleep and enjoy and, like, vibe out in her
$7000 seat. She probably was sitting there
like upset and afraid to open the door.
My thing yeah, 100% I. Hope that the airline people
like gave her special stuff and like drinks and stuff.
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I would hope so. I mean, The thing is she's
already in the $7000 seat, so she's probably getting all the
freebies to begin with. So I don't know what they could
throw at her that would that would help things.
But yeah, if I was her, I'd be afraid to open that door, at
least anxious about opening the door.
And the other. On the other hand though, like I
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do feel like if I was in that situation and somebody
approached me and asked that, itwould be such a ridiculous
question that I don't even know if I'd get upset.
No I wouldn't at first, but if she kept, if she was calling
people and yelling at people andcussing at people and whatever,
I would get arrested. They would have to lay on the
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plane somewhere because we wouldn't make it to Dubai.
I would lose my ever loving shit.
That plane wouldn't make it out of Ohio.
But yeah, that reminds me of when that mom, like forced us to
try to. She tried to move us to sit with
her kid who was like 17. That was the best thing ever.
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Yeah. You and I had a couple seats
together. This mom asked if she could
switch her kid to the aisle seatwe had because she was sitting
across the aisle or something like that.
And she got so pissed. She kept saying, what do you
mean you want switch? That's my child.
That's my child. And we're like, yeah, who's able
(09:05):
to drive a car? They're so old.
Right, it's not a lap child, it's a teenager that doesn't
care to be near you anyways. It was so weird and that.
It was so weird and we paid for those seats and then she made a
huge scene about it. And you know what's craziest
about that story is that was badenough, and then that flight to
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Atlanta ended up landing in Nashville.
Yeah, that flight was cursed forsure.
It. Was like the worst airport
airline situation of our entire lives I think.
I've had a lot. Well, that's true.
Maybe of my life, Yeah. Anyway, I thought you would love
that one again on Qatar slash Qatar Airlines.
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Honey. However you want to say it, the
jury's out. Nobody knows how it's actually
pronounced. I need desperately need people
to DM us their opinion. That's fine.
I will look up news broadcast footage like from CNN and stuff.
This is the way that people say it now.
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Believe me, it was an adjustmentbecause I was a part of several
conversations over the last yearor two where people were like,
it's not Qatar. Dumb dumb so.
But it's also not Qatar. It's in between the two.
That's a risky, risky thing to pronounce in between, you know
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what I mean? Anyway, hope you all had a Happy
Valentine's Day. You know what I was thinking
last week was I really miss those dumb little paper
Valentine's we used to send eachother in school.
Really. Yeah, I really do.
(10:55):
It was like, you know, you remember, at least not in my
school. We took an old tissue box and,
like, made it our little mailbox, Valentine's mailbox.
And then everybody passed their little notes around.
And I remember it being so like,gossipy a little bit like, oh, I
wonder if so and so is going to give so and so 10.
(11:17):
They like each other. Oh, because everybody got one.
But like, if you like somebody, you would give them like a
different 1 so they knew and youknow what I mean?
What? Do you mean like in the box you
would pick the best card for them?
Yeah, or like the fancy one or the one that looked like it said
I love you instead of just like you have a nice smile.
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And I always thought it was funny too, because my, this,
this will come no surprise to you, but all of the kids in my
class would have like the, you know, the cool one, the rocket
power one or whatever it was when we were kids.
And I would usually get mine, I think at Dollar Tree every year.
So the ones I got, the ones I got were like either off brand
(12:04):
or like 3 years behind the trend.
So it would be like when kids are doing something cool.
I, I have like the Blues clues one that I'm giving out, You
know what I mean? God.
Classic. But God, I remember that being
so like got like vivid and I could feel that experience
coursing through my veins of howmuch like, you know, you're so
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nervous about who's going to give you 1.
And then there was like the not everybody in my school at least,
you were not required to give one to everybody.
And so I think everyone just gave them to everyone.
I don't know. That we definitely all like in
my, I remember like fifth grade,maybe 6th grade of the 20 kids
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in my class, we started doing the math.
We're like, you didn't get one. Well, I got AI got, you know,
this Rugrats 1 and you got the Rugrats run.
You didn't get one. Oh my God, Dylan didn't give you
a Valentine? Oh.
So much drama. That was sad.
I know middle school was it was whack, but I love the.
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Start the bullying. And did you ever have did they
ever come to your classroom and and deliver roses?
What? Did they ever?
They didn't do that at your school.
No. So it was like a thing that they
would sell to parents and grandparents and stuff.
So on Valentine's Day, there would be like roses on your desk
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if your mom or dad wanted to buyyou one or your.
Grandparents. That's sad, because then
there's. People, I never go.
Any. I never got 1 and I listen, I
don't doubt that my parents loveme, but like that extra
accoutrement I was never really a part of, you know what I mean?
But to be fair, there was alwayslike the same 3 kids that really
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got it. It's not like everybody got it
and I didn't. But did you walk in and there's
a ton of roses? Oh yeah, yeah.
On everyone's desk. Not except like 3.
Oh OK. Except like 3 people.
Like was it over half? I would say probably over half,
yeah, probably. And then was there like 2 girls
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that had like 20 roses, a ton more roses than other people.
It was it was the girls. There was a couple girls that
had a ton of roses and then there was like 2 boys that were
like totally mama's boys, you know what I mean?
Oh God. There were these two kids who
like remember this friend of mine, Kyle when I was a kid, he,
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he got one year, he got APS 2 inhis Easter basket like from his
fucking mom. You know, I have heard about
Kyle getting APS 2 for Easter for years.
It's like scarred you. It pisses me off because even at
that age I was like, this is this is out of hand, What are
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you doing? This is Easter anyway.
Anyway, anyway, we don't really.I guess when we were first
dating. Do you have memories of what we
did for Valentine's? Like we would definitely go on a
date that was, that's always. Yeah, but like one of the first
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Valentine's we were together. I thought you were proposing.
That's right. You made me like a photo book of
people across the country holding up a sign that says
Cameron loves you. And I was like, it's happening.
He's proposing. That would have been so early
though. It wasn't the first Valentine, I
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think it was the second. Oh no, it was the first
Valentine's. Actually, it was.
Are you sure? Yeah, no, I have vivid memories
of it. I It was the first Valentine's,
but it was a like we started dating in May and it was the
next February. So it was like the nine month
mark in hindsight, bit of a swing it was.
Insane. It's crazy.
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But what did you feel about it at the time?
I was in case you didn't. In case you haven't noticed, I
was very excited to be dating you.
It was great, Yeah. I just was like, oh wow, he's
proposing. It's happening.
Would you have said yes? I think so because I was like, I
mean, I moved in with you already, you know what I mean?
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I know, but I'm not a slight against you, but you had moved
in with other boyfriends in the past.
How dare you? Did any of them try to propose a
six months? No, no.
But we already moved in togetherand we had a dog together.
Like there was a lot happening. So me, I probably would have
said yes. I'm pretty sure that one of my
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friends was, I, maybe multiple asked me if I was proposing.
And at that point, I probably should have been like, oh, I
need to cool it a little bit, Yeah.
When when people thought you were proposing, it would have
been a good idea to to rethink. But if you think about it like
after our first date, I think within, I mean what, a couple of
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hours we were texting each otherabout how much fun we had and
wanted to go on another date. Yeah, I.
So I, I think, I think off the heels of that, I'm like, fuck
it, I, I didn't like reserve my thoughts and feelings at that
point, Why do it now? But then it took you 4 years to
propose. No, I'm talking about the card
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the the first Valentine's Day thing.
Oh, OK. Is there some resentment over
the four year proposal? No, I guess not.
When there was definitely the phase that we did like little,
you know, like a coupon book or something like that.
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Sure, but we did. We've never done big gifts or
anything. No, we've never really done big
gifts. We've done big gifts for like a
birthday or something like that.But even now we pretty much
don't do gifts. We do experiences.
We go on dates, things like that.
There was like Valentine's Day 2022 or something, the D-Day,
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the day that we miscommunicated apparently, and you didn't get a
card. Yeah, that was and now this year
I got 6 cards so. I think I'm still making up for
it. I I, I don't feel that I'm fully
there yet. I got a card every day of the
week, yeah. We did a few things this week.
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We or this past week, we we wentto the escape room, we went on
our second date and we tried to rehash that same room and win
this time and we indeed lost second time in a row.
We we lost again. We did not escape.
You were like, you were overly confident we would get out.
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I was pretty confident because this was the first escape room I
had ever done and I thought, OK,I've done enough now where I
feel like I could get through it, be more perceptive.
I got to be honest, it's been a while since we've done one.
I felt really bad at it. We just did it.
So it's the basement LA and it'sthe elevator shaft.
For anyone that's listening, that's local.
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Try it. Let us know if you get out.
On our first date, they told us we got like 15% of the way
through the room. And this time they said we got
95% of the way through the room.We were on the last step, we
just didn't get out in time and that makes me feel a little
better, but it doesn't make me feel a lot better.
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I just don't think that this is.I think you're very good at it.
I just maybe this isn't my strong suit.
If I was very good at it, we still would have gotten out
well, but I'm not that good at. It but I'm just just to give the
listener an example. There is a part in this escape
room where you have to, one person has to go down a shaft
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and I elected to go down the shaft this time.
And there's a bunch of things down there that are required to
beat the game and I pretty much didn't see like 4 of them.
You specifically said out loud there's nothing here.
In fact, there was like 7 thingsdown there.
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There was like so much there to see and do and you were like, I
don't know. My brain also like, so there's a
one point in the game and again,I don't think you could go with
all these tips and probably still not beat it.
There's one point in the game where you need an electrical
wire. Like you need to go find an
electrical wire. And halfway down this shaft
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there's a place where there's like a bunch of exposed wires.
And I just assumed I shouldn't touch those because those are
real wires. Yeah.
And then I kept going. We need another wire.
Are there any where are there some wires?
And you're like, oh, maybe I should go back.
And then there was just employees beating on the walls,
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yelling hands through the the walls at mostly me.
It was a lot to deal with. Yeah, I don't know.
I I like escape rooms. It's funny because I I'd like
doing them with you when we're in the same room.
This was like a game of telephone.
So it was harder. I really don't like when we're
in a group of 10 people because those are really bad.
That's a bad experience. So we did that.
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We did a handful of other things.
And then on Friday, we went and saw for the first time for both
of us, Sleepless in Seattle. Yeah, I it's like a classic that
everyone talks about, I feel like.
Tom Hanks, Meg Ryan. What did you think?
I. Enjoyed it, it was delightful.
I thought it was very cute. I really liked it and when we
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walked out I said I wish that. I wish that more movies like
that existed. I don't want real life.
I know now we have to watch You've Got Mail cause isn't that
also them? Yeah, you've got mail.
I still. Never seen that either.
Basically all of those 90s ROM coms, because it's like the end
of Sleepless in Seattle to spoilit.
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You know, if you're worried about spoilers, maybe, maybe go
watch the movie from 35 years ago.
The end of the movie, Tom Hanks and Meg Ryan meet each other for
the first time on top of the Empire State Building, somewhat
by design, somewhat by accident and circumstance.
And like, that's something that definitely would not happen in
real life. And I like that.
It doesn't need to be possible. Also, why wouldn't it happen in
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real life? Well, I it's a little stalkery.
That is one thing that I thoughtabout the movie.
There's like some stalker behavior.
A little, but because they're pretty, she's pretty and he's
handsome, they think it's fine. Right, right.
Everybody is like an eligible bachelor or Bachelorette.
He's like, oh, this Pretty Womanis following me.
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Right. The other thing that I thought
was unrealistic but I was OK with it was Meg Ryan's character
is engaged to another man and she falls in love with Tom Hanks
voice on a radio show and towards the end of the movie.
What do you mean? So what are you trying to tell
me? Why do you think that's
unrealistic? I didn't get to the finish line
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yet. Oh, OK.
The unrealistic part is when shesits down to break up with her
fiance and he's like I understand, go ahead go get him.
Yeah, he didn't seem to care at all.
It was so weird. Like I did actually like the kid
in the movie. I know I thought he was cute.
I thought he was a good little actor and I liked him enough
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that I looked him up in the car on the way home and he basically
only did that movie like a couple other things, and now
he's a car salesman in Van Nuys.At keys At keys.
Van Nuys. Keys, keys, keys.
Keys. Keys on Van Nuys.
So yeah, it was an interesting trajectory for that.
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I do think that 90s movies had better kid actors, and I wonder
why. Probably because child labor
laws didn't. Right, they were all
traumatized. They they were overworked and
overtrained. OK, sure.
That's probably why. Got it.
You know, I don't like, did you ever get set up with like, a
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fake girlfriend as a kid? Like, oh, is that your
girlfriend? Like when you were just talking
about getting Valentine's in your shoe box, Did you?
Because I think that's stupid and that's annoying.
And I was talking about this with some friends recently that
my best friend set up her brother with this girl and they
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wrote fake love letters to the girl from him and then to him
from the girl and we're like setting him up and he was like
5. What?
I know. And I'm like, that's crazy.
I've never been a part of something that level.
I I just always had like when I was a kid, probably 5 or 6, I
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remember being like, oh, that's Cameron's girlfriend or
whatever. I'm like, I don't even know what
that means. But there was no like love
letter writing or whatever. I think I yeah, I don't.
I don't get it. It's weird, you're like low key
sexualizing kids when you do that.
You're sexualizing kids and you're assigning them a
sexuality. Right.
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I think adults do it to make themselves feel more comfortable
and it's. Weird and adults who are really
sad and don't have somebody to love them or have an unhappy
relationship or trying to force love on the children.
I think it's so weird. I don't like it and I don't I
don't like it when people do it with dogs either.
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How do people do it with dogs? Like at the dog park or whatever
they'll be like, that's his girlfriend, you know what I
mean? I mean, I guess with dogs, dogs
sometimes hump each other. So it's.
Like A and I feel like it's pretty obvious when dogs like
each other or when they don't. Yeah, but like two kids that are
like, I don't know, I just sit next to you and like color.
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It's weird, I remember from a very young age, just like
girlfriends and boyfriends and dating being a thing way too
early on. Yeah, I.
Don't know. Like way, way too early.
Maybe it's not as much with kidsnow because it's a little more
taboo, but I don't know. I feel like I still see it
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happening. How old were you when you had
your first boyfriend? 16 I was like banned from it
until I was 16. OK.
What about you? I had like, I think my first
girlfriend was like in 7th grade.
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How old are you in? I don't know how old people are
in each grade. I don't know, like probably 12,
probably maybe 11-12. I mean, look at that.
Google it. How old are you?
In 7th grade? Yeah, 12 or 13.
That feels early. Yeah, but it's like, what is it?
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It's just the girl that you hangout with at school a lot.
That's a. You know what I mean?
Did you kiss? No, no.
Did you hold hands? Not with that girlfriend, no.
I think the first time I held hands was like in 8th grade.
You didn't even hold her hand. No, I In fact, I'm freshman year
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of high school. I don't think freshman year
girlfriend. Wait, freshman year of high
school. This memory just came back to
me. I forget this girl's name, but I
your boyfriend and girlfriend. Every teacher?
Wait, you can remember every teacher's first and last and
fucking middle initial? I had way more girlfriends than
I did teachers. OK.
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What? I'm kidding.
You can remember every single teacher you've ever had, but you
can't remember a literal girlfriend.
That can remember every No, I can remember every teacher in
elementary and middle school. Once I get up to high school I
it's gone. You mean the years that are
closer to your current age are harder to?
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Remember, because I had multipleteachers, once I had multiple
teachers, it was out the window.But you didn't have that many
girlfriends. No, I mean I just had I, I feel
like an average amount. I had one in 7th grade and I had
one in 8th grade. And then my freshman year I I
was boyfriend and girlfriend with this girl for about one
day. You were boyfriend and
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girlfriend. You were her boyfriend.
We were we were boyfriend and girlfriend.
You know what? I.
Mean. OK, OK, yeah, don't mince.
My words for one day and I triedto hold her hand and she said I
was moving too fast. And then she broke up with me
publicly, I will say, in front of many other people.
Like she don't wait. Like she ripped her hand away
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and was like you. Whore.
Yes. What the fuck?
Yeah, it was. It was weird.
Were you like, so embarrassed? Yeah, it's also I hate my
freshman year of high school. Least favorite year of school in
my entire life. It was awful.
And that's probably the case fora lot of people.
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Did everyone after that moment was was like, oh he's the hand
holder? I don't really know.
I just left the school if I'm being honest.
That was my first and last year at that school.
Did you leave because of that? No, I left because I hated it in
general. And it was also a Lutheran high
school and like, I felt like I was smarter than all my teachers
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and like, I was like, I got to get out of here.
You're wasting your money, Mom and dad, you.
Know. Yeah, you probably were.
And then I had and then I, I played baseball that year, but
they, they only let me like playsometimes.
I was essentially A glorified equipment manager and I won like
everybody else at the end of theyear, baseball banquet won like
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awards. Like one kid won like best
pitcher award, another kid won like most runs batted in award.
I won like the spirit award. I'm like, I got to get the fuck
out of here. What am I doing?
This is so. No, it was just, I think that's
freshman year is probably rough for most people, I would
imagine. Yeah, because it's at that part
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where you're like, you're ditching your old friends and
you're getting your new ones. Or am I still friends with you?
Or is it not cool to be friends with you?
And like, it's a mess. High school sucks.
High school is the worst. You couldn't pay me to go back.
Oh my God, no. I for I, I think the earliest I
can remember was like 4th or 5thgrade and I'm like, I got to get
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the fuck out of school. You know.
Like I couldn't stand it. Anyway, I digress.
Sleepless in Seattle, good movie.
Go see. We're going to watch You Got
Mail too, because 90s rules. So do Meg Ryan and Tom Hanks.
Big week. This week we're prepping for
your short film debut. Yeah.
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We're doing the short that you wrote, which is very exciting.
That I originally came up with the idea for on this podcast.
That's. Right, so previously.
Called mostly true opinions, butit's fine.
When we say things like trademark, copyright, and like
we're going to go do that, we mean it's true.
It's true. All of the Shark Tank businesses
(31:54):
I brought up on this podcast, they're underway.
LLCS have been filed. Yeah, don't you fucking dare try
stealing any of them. But no, it's very exciting.
I bring it up because this is a,we are not rolling deep.
I want to just be very clear, we're not like rich, rich or
anything like that. We just we.
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This is a benefit of living the way that we do, as as members of
the DINK society, as the membersof the DINK.
Life. When you get a tax return,
instead of putting it towards a college fund, you just make a
short film. Yeah, and.
You know, we're doing it, I would say very thanks to all of
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your efforts. Very.
It's going to look great. It's going to sound great.
It's going to be great because it's a great script, but also
we're doing it kind of gorilla style to keep costs down and.
We're pulling a lot of favors. Almost all the locations are
free except one, and all of our friends that are very talented
are mostly all doing me favors. But that's the cool part is,
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first of all, they're very sweet, but also they're all very
good at what they do. They are.
And like, they would have been honest with me and they read the
script and they were down and said that it was cool.
Yeah. So if they didn't want to do it,
they could. They just would say no.
But I do feel like it's a it's aculmination of you've been in
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acting class with this one particular place for about a
year and you wrote this script. It was a goal of yours.
You hopped to it. It was your idea.
It was it's all very like synchronous.
It's coming together. I think it's going to be fun.
It'll. Be good.
Yeah, I'm looking forward to it.And I'm going to put your name
on the little Clapper thing and it's going to be so official.
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Whoa. It's going to be like, what?
Whoa, it's Hollywood, baby. Whoa.
Ow. OK, lots to get to from Reddit.
Hit me. There's some questions, there's
some rants, there's just some just because things.
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These are all pulled from Dink the Dink Reddit and the child
free Reddit, both very good places if you're looking for
this kind of content. And here's one I'll start with.
And this is something I think weall can agree with, you and me
certainly. And this is so on theme.
Somebody wrote. I love not worrying about my
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biological clock. There's so many women in my life
who are desperately looking for a guy to marry or settle for
complete losers just because they're getting closer to 30.
And not worrying about any of that shit is so nice.
That's all. Just wanted to share with like
minded people, that's all. How true is that?
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Yeah, not. That's just never even begun to
cross my mind. I'm worried about time as a
general construct, you know, I'mworried about my life as a
general arc. Yeah.
Hoping I'm doing enough, being enough, seeing enough for the
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age that I am, but I'm not worried about if my eggs are
decaying within me. Right.
And how? Many are left.
The concept of, and so many people have had this experience,
the concept of being like in a relationship with somebody and,
and having that moment where it's like, this is good enough.
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Oh my God. Yeah.
Or like I'll just stick with himand hopefully get pregnant and
then divorce him later or whatever.
Like, some women literally do that just to have a baby, and
they're like, yeah, he's not a keeper, but at least he'll give
me a baby. I know that's crazy.
There's movies made about this. And it's, it's a result of like,
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there's so much pressure to havekids.
And so we, we, our stance on this is if you are, if you want
a kid, we respect you And like, we, we hope that that goes well.
And we have a lot of friends that have kids or want to have
kids. And that's cool.
But the idea that like, there's so much pressure on you to then
marry somebody you don't really want to marry and then have a
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kid with somebody you don't really want to be with that.
How do you think that's going towork out?
Not great. And this other person on Reddit
put it this way. And this is like, it's one of
those things that you and I talkabout, we talk about on the
podcast. But when it's spelled out this
way, it's like, holy shit. That is, I think we made the
right move for us. They say it's actually insane
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that anyone wants to have kids. You basically go from not having
freedom due to being underage tonot having freedom because
you're responsible for other people that are underage.
Let's say you move out at 18. Yeah, you have two kids, one at
30, the second at 33. Your kids move out at 18.
That mean while you could have had 27 years of youth and
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freedom, you've given up 15 years of them to have kids.
Damn, because then yeah, you so from 18 to 30.
So you were only free for 12 years and that's if you wait
till 30 to have kids? That's if you wait till 30 my.
Parents had me at 27 I think. When my parents had me at 20, I
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think my brother when they were 22 or 23 and then me when they
were 25 or 26. Oh my God.
Yeah, so they say that that means you give up 55% of your
best adult years. That's oh, and again, no shame
to people who do it, do it well and love it.
That's good for you. But my God, that is not.
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That is not our path. That's not a statistic I'm
comfortable with. No, not at all.
And then some people would say, oh, but it's worth it.
You know, Of course there's, of course when you're giving up one
thing, you're gaining another. Sure.
I'm just not willing to do it. Yeah, I, I, I like hearing
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stories about it, but not, you know, not experiencing it.
This is super clever. OK, We always talk about why
aren't there more restaurants ormovie theaters or airplanes that
have adults only policies? And the truth is, depending on
where you live, a lot of places don't do this or can't do this
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because it's considered discriminatory.
OK, sure. But there's a restaurant
somebody found that they said does a really clever work
around. And I think this is great and I
hope that more people notice this and and take suit, OK?
OK, OK, follow. Suit, they said.
They yes. Follow suit.
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Qatar Airlines, they said they reserved a table on the website
and they got this confirmation text that said great thanks.
Your reservation is concerned. Confirmed at the restaurant for
brunch tomorrow. Your table is for three at 1:30
PM. As a family owned and operated
restaurant, we welcome all families to dine with us.
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Please be advised, however, we do not have child seating
options on premises. We will do our best to
accommodate seating if you choose to bring a booster seat,
but we cannot guarantee its compatibility with our dining
room furniture. Thank you in advance for
understanding. So basically they're saying
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we're not going to have those high chairs or booster seats on
site if you want to bring one, which nobody's going to remember
to do. No, Yeah.
What? And if it fits our chair, so
like somebody can even bring 1 and they bring it inside and
they're going to be like, ah, that doesn't fit the chair.
Sorry. They got the kids, got to go
out. And stay at home like.
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OK, this is a pretty clever workaround.
Are they getting ripped a new asshole on on Yelp though?
Probably. Maybe.
I don't know though, because also if it's a, no disrespect to
family places, but like if it's a trendier place, no people that
go online and look and see a negative review because they're
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not allowed to have kids, that'sactually a positive review.
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, you know what I mean.
That's so interesting. Yeah, more places should just
start not offering child friendly seating.
I think it's a good idea becauseeven if you're not sitting next
to the booth or sitting next to the kid that's standing up on
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the chair or making a mess, there's always screaming,
there's always crying. I mean, or they have the iPad
that's on full blast. Sure right, no headphones.
I don't know if it actually really deters enough people
though. The child friendly seating.
Cause breweries don't have high chairs and booster seats and
(40:58):
somehow they're still playgrounds.
Yeah, but they don't have the rule in place that they, like,
can sit on a chair without it, you know what I mean?
Sure. I don't know.
Breweries are largely playground.
I think that's why a lot of themare closing down.
Honestly, they got too LAX with that stuff.
I mean, what else? It's just crazy.
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Like when I, when we went as kids, I remember what did we do
sitting at a table, We colored. That was a very that was a quiet
way to keep us busy. I don't see coloring books in
the wild much. Never.
Or those placemats that you could color on or anything like
that. I used to love doing that when
we went out to eat. OK, this one's going to piss you
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off. Oh great.
This is one thing I do worry about with the people that we
know who have babies and if you're listening, people we know
that have babies, we will still come see your baby and spend
time with it and love and appreciate it.
However, this is a risk. This person posted on the child
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free Reddit and said one afternoon with a friend's baby
and now I've got pink eye. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no. No, my friend brought her baby
to my place a couple of days ago.
When she mentioned the kid had just started going to nursery, I
literally thought oh here we go,watch me go down with some of
the most dreadful illnesses in the next week.
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I was thinking cold, flu, something like that.
Turns out one week the kid comeshome with conjunctivitis, gives
it to the mom. The pair of them have it, but
the mom did not mention any of them having it before they got
to my house. Now I feel like I have gravel in
my eye. Oh my God, why are babies such
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disease ridden creatures? And why do people think well?
Some of them aren't, some of them are.
And why do people think that being sick as a baby is any less
contagious than when you're an adult?
Or it's somehow cuter? It's a great question.
No, it's so real. Like, no one cares when their
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kids open mouth coughing in public or on a plane or telling
them to cover their mouth. I don't see anyone tell anyone
to cover their mouth anymore. And also so casually, like one
of my friends was like, I was atcoffee with her and she's like,
Oh yeah, my son just got over RSV.
I'm like, how do you know you don't have it right now?
(43:35):
Like, I don't think that. I don't think it's something
adults can get, but I don't wantto know.
I don't want to find out. I don't know it just it just
makes I'm like having phantom itching right now.
In general, I feel like we that should have been a COVID take
away, like the hey, if you're sick maybe don't come and enter
(43:59):
my place. And yet I feel like it still
happens all the time. And at work specifically,
there's people in my office who are just always coming in sick.
And I'm like, hey man, stop. You're literally sitting across
from me sneezing and coughing your face off.
Maybe don't come in. It's disrespectful.
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It's disrespectful. We don't do work that requires
you to be like on a constructionsite.
If you're really sick, you can probably do 90% of this at home.
What are we doing? Yeah.
I just thought like, I don't know, social distancing's out
the window. I do miss it sometimes.
OK last but not least here I thought this was a good one to
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end on for anyone that is like us or anyone that is looking for
a little bit more freedom in life.
They say As someone who was looking for work, I can't
comprehend what it would be likeif kids were in the mix.
It seems like any setbacks or mistakes I make won't have as
serious a consequences as when kids are involved.
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Better way of putting it is I feel like I have more room to
fall down and pick myself back up.
I wonder how many people have been or are dealing with any
hardships have to think about atleast one positive thing and
that involves not having children.
That seems like the one thing I'm grateful for.
A lot of people say their kids are their motivation, but the
thought of not having children seems pretty motivating to me.
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Yeah. I really like that.
Yeah, because you're not hurtinganyone else if you make a
mistake. You have more freedom to like,
figure it out. Yeah.
And I think that's super powerful.
And I think that's a responsibility thing too.
Like it would be imagine tomorrow you and I both got
(45:50):
fired from both of our jobs. It would be stressful.
It would definitely be stressful, but we would figure
it out. If we had a child, that would be
incredibly terrifying. Right.
And also, not having health insurance for yourself is one
thing, but not having health insurance for a baby, Yeah.
I don't even know how that works.
(46:11):
You know what, to be honest, I'dprobably try to file it under
the pet insurance. We had a family friend of ours
growing up. Did I ever tell you this story?
The I forget their names but. A family friend you can't
remember either, but you can remember all these teachers.
I forget your last name. It was, it was like my brother's
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friend and his parents, you know, they were just around all
the time. But I do remember that they were
really good friends with a veterinarian.
And so when any of the kids weresick or needed something, they
would most of the time go to theveterinarian that they knew.
That's. So before going to the hospital.
Honey, that's so backwoods. I know it is.
(46:57):
You kidding me? I know it is.
But I've now that I think about it, it kind of makes sense.
I have pet insurance. We have pet insurance.
Maybe we try to file something under the dog's name?
Sure. I mean, we realize that humans
and dogs are taking gabapentin. It's all the same.
Yeah, all the medication's the exact same.
(47:18):
Why not? Yeah.
Anyway, that's what I was able to find from Reddit this week.
There we go. It's chock full of stuff in
there. Chock full of stuff.
A lot of people looking for advice or rants.
There's a lot of rants in there.There's a lot of rants like
advice I'm. Willing to give advice.
There's just a lot of people sounding off and, and, and
(47:40):
looking for people in the comment section to be like,
yeah, I hear you. I go through this too.
Actually, one of the other things I saw that I meant to
mention real quick before we go is I think the narrative is that
a lot, there's a lot of men out there who don't want kids, who
have a hard time dating because they're like girlfriends want
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kids and stuff. And based on my research on the
Reddit pages, the opposite is true.
There's a lot of women who are having a really hard time
finding dudes who don't want to have kids.
Yeah, on all the dating shows, it seems like all these guys
want to have kids. I know.
But for some reason, we've spun the narrative that it's like,
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you know, oh, she wants to have kids or whatever.
I think more dudes want to have kids because more dudes are like
my lineage. And also, yeah, I might want to
have a kid a little bit more if I didn't have to carry it and
like, make it and feel like a deathly wail and whatever.
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And also there's a million otherreasons I don't want to.
But like, maybe, just maybe it would be less hard to think
about as a dude if you don't really have to do much and you
just, oh, my lineage. I don't know.
I just think the guys want it more for those extra reasons.
I agree. They want, they want, they want
(49:09):
an air. Sure.
Yeah, to their. Uber.
Fortune, I just. It's like, what do I care?
I'm going to be dead. I don't, you know what I mean?
Yeah. It's like good in theory, but
also I'm not going to be able tolike see you do anything.
I don't know. Anyway, that's it gang.
We hope you have a good week. Anything else, babe?
(49:32):
Oh man, I thought of something and then you brought that up,
dammit. It's OK, we can write it down
for next time. OK, bye.
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