November 4, 2025 • 48 mins
In this episode of The DINKside, a new DINK study was released -- we go over all of the details PLUS -- our first World Series, a child-free Halloween, Happy Meals gone wrong, and KIDS MOVED IN NEXT DOOR!
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There's a new term buzzing on the Internet, Dick.
Dual income? No, kid, you probably have an
opinion on these people or an opinion on people who have an
opinion on these people. America's birth rate has hit its
lowest point in more than a century.
Some are blaming it on infertility.
Others say the state of the world is causing couples to
think twice about having children.
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Childless marriages could be a good thing if they were a result
of God's sovereign providential work.
Oh my God, can't even. Hear you.
They like avocado toast and brunches out and going to plays
and having sweet vacations. Yeah, you're probably super
selfish. Kids are better than brunch.
Wrong. And then there's another group
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of young couples that wants the lifestyle of childless
households and the lifestyle it brings with it.
Thanks shooting. Welcome to The DINK Side, the
podcast about life, laughs and living child free.
We're a double income, no kids couple navigating the UPS, downs
and hilarious in betweens of choosing a different path in a
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world that won't stop asking. So when are you having kids?
When are you having them? Today on the podcast there is a
new Pew Research study that justcame out this week on the Dink
Life. So we're going to get to that
and figure out what Pew is. I don't know who they are, but
people respect them. We went to the World Series.
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I have a story about a happy meal gone wrong.
We're going to talk about our childless and child.
Full recap of Halloween. Some stories ripped from Reddit.
But first there was a headline in our household.
Kids have moved next door. Yeah, yeah, you heard it here
1st and we'll probably continue to hear about it.
I don't know. Here's the thing the people next
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door sucked already and there was like a psycho lady that had
turf wars about our trash cans and we came toe to toe.
But then I saw a for sale sign in their front yard and I was
like oh dope bye bitch and they sold their house.
Somehow in this market no one will ever understand how and a
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new family just moved in yesterday and I was not the one
that saw the children you said you did not see, but you heard
children and that is cause for concern.
Well. I mean, it's just for a little
bit of context here. So the house next door to ours
is like one of these kind of mini mansions.
We live in a neighborhood that has a bunch of cute little
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cottages that are like 3 bedrooms and 1500 square feet.
And developers have been buying them up, knocking them down and
putting 5000 square foot houses that can fit a billion kids in
their place. And so does it make sense that a
family moved in next door? Sure.
Is it something we were looking to avoid for the rest of our
lives? Yeah.
Because we have had the extreme end of shitty neighbors when it
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comes to having kids. Yeah.
And so it's just triggering. I will say I worked from home
today and I didn't hear them most of the day.
Unfortunately, it is 6:40 PM as we live and breathe and I can
hear them playing while we record the podcast.
So I don't know how to feel. I have.
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I do think that I have. Yeah, there's.
Child PTSD. So as as I'm trying to think of
the second-half of my sentence, I was derailed by shrieking.
Do you have anxiety in my body regarding this?
And I am looking for reasons to live currently.
Yeah, I mean, it's not, it's tough because we, like I said,
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we lived at two places maybe twoplaces ago.
We lived in a a townhouse where the neighbors directly across
from us were. I mean, their house was probably
20 feet away from ours. It wasn't super far.
And their kids would play out front all day, all times of day.
They would just scream. They would kick soccer balls
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against our garage door. It was hell on earth.
And I think like, we're reasonable, rational people.
If you hear a kid playing outside for a little while, it's
not the end of the world. Where it becomes a problem is
like, you work from home a lot of times when you're not
traveling for comedy and you were waking up at like 7:00 AM
to kids fucking terrorizing the neighborhood.
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And so on the extreme end, I think we're afraid of that
happening again. On the other hand, go ahead.
I I get that. I get that it takes it.
It's impossible to completely avoid living next to children
unless like to take that into our own hands unless we were to
move into a retirement community.
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Which I've said this before, I Idon't know why retirement
communities are 55 plus if they had like, OK, here's a new
business idea, retirement community communities that are
55 plus and you can get in if you don't have children.
This is, yeah, it's an amazing idea.
It's an amazing idea because youwere saying, OK, well, because I
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had a full spiral about it last night when you said you heard
the children and I was like, great, so do we have to move
again in a year? Like what's happening?
And you're like, well, even if we move, there's no way to ever
guarantee that your neighbors aren't children.
And there's no if we move into adifferent apartment, there's no
way to guarantee, at least rightnow, we're not sharing a wall
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with them, but we are sharing a fence with them.
And they are expressing themselves through screaming.
So it is on my mind and I'm. Just hoping though, that it's
like you said at 6:40 PM and youhear it for a bit at 6:40 and
then in a little bit it just goes out like that.
I think I can live with. What I can't live with is every
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hour of the day. It's just fucking mayhem.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know that that's just
where I'm at right now, but it'sand it's stressful and it's
concerning. I you know what else I don't
get? I went to the store today and I
was just grabbing a few essentials we were out of.
We usually shop at Costco. Shout out Kirkland everything.
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And today I got a few essentialsthat we usually get at Costco,
but instead I got them at Targetand I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
It was the store I was next. To.
Cheater. I know that no targets Lander
cancelled. Oh, I see what you're saying.
I get what you're saying now, OK.
Yeah, yeah, I wasn't apologizingfor cheating on Costco, but I
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was apologizing for the social state of the world.
Anyways, I haven't bought toiletpaper, not at Costco in I think
years. And I was I was stricken with
anxiety. I first of all, there's forty
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types of toilet paper and a million brands and why are they
different? You wipe your ass with it.
What what's the difference? What's the difference of all
these Sure, I get that there's one or two ply great, one or two
ply. Why are there 70 options?
And why? Why if you're buying toilet
paper for your family at Target,are you made of gold?
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It? If you have children and you're
buying toilet paper from Target,what tax bracket are you in?
Because at Costco, there's one brand and you know what?
It comes in a pack of 60 and youknow how much it is $15.
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Yeah, right. I mean, it, it's it's 15 bucks,
I think it's 24 double plied rolls, but they're thick.
You can't get rolls this thick, not at Costco.
And first of all, single ply should be illegal for people to
buy. It's it your fingers going to
poke right through it, you're going to end up touching your
own butt hole. Like it's not humane.
It should be illegal. You know, it's not humane.
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And like you said, what I don't understand is how they can get
away with this. It happens with paper towels
too. By the way, Bounty should be
called not the quicker picker upbut the quick money eater or
something like that. It's outrageous.
Called the quick bankruptor. That's it.
That should be the new name. But I also think because, you
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know, when we were moving, we were living with your mom for a
few weeks and she uses a different type of toilet paper,
and that's her right. But I have to say, my body is
used to Kirkland's signature andI can't use anything else.
Just doesn't work. It doesn't work for me.
I just was so taken aback by theprice difference because yes, at
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Costco if you buy things in bulk, technically you're saving
money blah blah blah, but you'resaving like $30 on the toilet
paper specifically. Time.
It's insane. So today I took out a small
business loan under KDK Comedy LLC and I bought us toilet paper
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from Target and I am just like thank God we're two adults and
we don't have children that are also wiping their asses with
this toilet paper because I could we couldn't afford to
paper the house. No, no, I and by the way, there
are people out there that say there are people out there that
say Costco, it doesn't really save you any money.
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You're absolutely wrong about that.
You're absolutely wrong about that.
Do you have to have self-control?
Sure. Are they going to try to get you
to buy a scooter on your way to the register with your toilet
paper? Of course they are.
But if you behave, you can save a lot of dough.
We actually have really good friends of ours that are having
a baby and are they just moved into a new place and our gift to
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them was a Costco membership. I don't want to toot my own
horn. I think we might have saved
their lives I diapers. Alone at.
Costco. Yeah.
I mean, by the way, I have no idea what a diaper cost, but I
know they're cheaper there. There's without a doubt they're
cheaper at Costco, you know. Yeah, I'm going to have to buy
adult ones at some point. That's when I'll find out.
OK so the kids moving next door,if you do have any advice, send
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us Adm the Dinkside pod on Instagram where you can hit KDK
comedy or it's Cameron Lewis. Would love to know what you have
done in the past to kind of navigate this situation.
I expect that at some point we'll probably have to meet the
neighbors and chat. I don't know, maybe it won't be
that bad. We'll see, time will tell, but
if you have any advice, let us know.
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We had. Is it about playing the long
game? Do I go over with cookies and
leave them like a note and then they are like obsessed with me?
And then if their kids are shitty, I can go over and be
like, hi, like, do I have to play the long con?
That's not a bad idea. Oh wait, how about we give them
cookies that that are infused with THC so that when they
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consume them, the kids get sleepy?
You know what I mean? I think that's a good idea.
Or some other kind of sedative that is child safe.
What you know, it's not about harming the kids, it's about
making them go to bed. See, I think you meant CBD.
No, I meant THC. Sure.
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Anyway, we had a first for us, certainly in our lives and and
maybe our last because I don't know what kind of money we're
going to make in the future, butwe went to the World Series for
the first time. Thanks to a good friend of mine.
Thank you again, Steph, ZI have.To say this good friend of ours,
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how dare you? A good friend of ours.
I'm sorry, I It was super fun and it's been an incredible
World Series to watch this year.We did happen to catch the game
where the the Los Angeles Dodgers played the worst
possible game imaginable, but westill had a blast.
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But we walked away. Because I was there and I am bad
luck. You do have really bad sports
luck, I'm not going to lie. Have I taken you to a soccer
game where they've won? Not once.
Ever. I think I have been the only
time I've been to 00 tie games or when you have been with me.
Yeah, but we walked away from the World Series with a question
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that was resounding in our head,ringing over and over again,
which is why the hell would you bring a kid to a World Series
game or any expensive sporting event?
Imagine the tickets, there were kids sitting behind home plate
for minimum like $10,000. There were kids sitting near us
that were minimum $800 like seats.
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And these children, while they were, I will say, mini faith in
humanity, like mini peep into that segment.
There were children in front of us, two children, and they were
silent the entire game, very well behaved.
But imagine spending $1600 for them to sit there and be bored
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because they were not paying attention to the game.
They were not there to, like, learn baseball from their dad or
their mom or their mom, whatever.
They weren't there to, like, learn about the game and they
looked bored. And one of them was on an iPad
the whole time. You spent $1600 to have your
kids sit there and be bored and be on their iPad?
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What? And I know what you're going to
say if you're seeing this or listening to this, I know what
you're going to say. The kids, they come in for free.
They were sitting on the laps. No, these were fully seated
children. They were above the age of 5,
below the age of 10. They had to buy a ticket for
their own seat. So they fully paid for these
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kids to go to this game. And I completely agree with you.
What is dumbfounding to me is ifyou're a kid and you go to a
baseball game, you don't know that it's the World Series you
have. There's no way that you know
that this game is more significant than any other.
You could tell. I mean, I love I love you, but
kids are stupid because they're still learning.
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You could tell a kid that the cheapest game is a World Series
game. They won't know the difference.
And they and they would believe you.
The only exception to this is I saw like a dad and his son and
they had score books out and he looked like he was about 11 or
12 and they were scoring the game together and really paying
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attention. That's different.
That's like a core memory. He clearly has like learned
baseball from being a little kid.
These two other little kids werelike just being well behaved
children sitting through a threehour game.
Yeah, yes, sure. Maybe there's some people that
were in the same position as us where they either won tickets or
someone gifted them tickets. So yes, maybe there's a chance
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that this family of four was gifted 4 tickets, but there were
not enough gifted tickets to account for all the children at
the World Series. No.
And there were many. I mean, it was chock full of
kids. Chock full of kids.
It's just crazy. I don't and great if you have
expendable money to do that, sure I guess.
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But if I had just like shit tonsof money, that's not what I
would blow it on. I, I OK, this is going to get
like super get off my lawn type of stuff, but so be it.
Judge me however you want. I don't care.
I don't think that a kid should be taught at that young of an
age that it's that easy for themto go to something so expensive.
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Do you know what I'm saying? Sure.
I also went in this past week. I went to an NFL game, the first
NFL game I've ever been to, a Rams game, and I went.
Through work 35 years. Yeah, it took me 35 years and I
and I went through work and we were seating in a seated in one
of those boxes, like a private box thing or whatever.
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There were kids in there. These kids had, they don't know
how good they have it, you know,and they're going to grow up
thinking this is a normal thing.Yeah.
It's crazy because it's like, I guess if the parents want to
include their kid in like cool experiences, that's one thing,
But I think we are being the like, you have to work for it
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energy and it took you 35 years to get a free favor.
We're in our free sports. Like yes, we're in our sports
era, but we're in our free shit sports era because we're
actually not paying to go to anyof this.
Yeah, we're super lucky. And if we did have to pay to go
to it, we wouldn't have gone because we couldn't afford the
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tickets. So we wouldn't, we wouldn't have
gone to the World Series. We can't afford it.
And you wouldn't have paid to goto the Rams game, much less sit
in a box, if we could afford it 'cause I was asking you what the
nosebleeds cost at both of thesegames.
And the nosebleeds were hundredsof dollars.
Yeah, especially at the NFL game, just because they only
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play. I don't know what the number is.
I'm new to this. 1520 games a year or whatever it is by, you
know, proxy, they're going to bemore expensive.
There's fewer of them anyway. The World Series one definitely
takes the cake. I don't get it.
I don't get how you can justify it at all.
Yeah, it's kind of on the same page as why are you bringing
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that newborn baby to Disneyland?You know what I mean?
But I think newborn babies get into Disney for free.
I think if you're under one or two you get in for free.
OK, that makes more sense. But also you're ruining your own
time cuz who wants to carry a newborn around Disney?
Should I tell my Happy Meal story?
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Yeah. OK, so last week leading up to
Halloween, I was super excited because McDonald's brought back
the Boo buckets and if you were a 90s kid, you likely had one of
these. These were the buckets that many
kids had and they took them trick or treating.
This was the thing that held your candy when you went door to
door. Very fun, very festive, very
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cool. McDonald's brought them back.
So I thought to myself, this would be a fun thing to get
because we were planning on giving out candy this year for
the first time in a few years. And so one day last week I went
to McDonald's to get one and it didn't exactly go my way.
I walked in and I asked the cashier at the counter, do you
guys have the Boo bucket still? And she said, yeah, we have the
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green one, but only the green one left.
OK, I I wanted the orange one, but the green one will do.
So I order a happy meal. Mind you, we are pescetarian.
I'm not going to eat the burger.I know that full fully.
When I order this thing, I'm going to get it.
Maybe have a fryer to throw everything out.
Keep the Boo bucket. That was the plan.
So I order, I go sit down. A few minutes later somebody
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brings me a tray with a Happy Meal box on the tray.
And I was like, oh, can I get the Boo bucket?
And they said, oh, we're out. So and so at the front counter
had it wrong. There's none left.
And So what ended up happening was I went to McDonald's by
myself on like a the middle of the week afternoon and was
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sitting in there and what lookedlike to everybody else that I
just ordered a Happy Meal for myself.
And by the way, yes, because they didn't even give me a
backup toy. So if we had a kid, they would
have walked away unhappy. Well that kid probably would
have cried and lost faith in theworld.
Yeah, as they should have. And by the way, also it kind of
worked out because I, I found out as I was leaving somebody
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else like was pointing it. They had like the display case,
you know, where the the buckets were and God forbid they break
the thing and give me that, thatone.
But they're tiny. They were tiny compared to the
ones in the 90s. So it's true what they say.
Everything used to be better. How big is tiny?
Like the size of a like a coffeemug or how big is it tiny?
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I would say like the like the size of like a, a soup bowl, but
just slightly deeper. You know, I would not describe
it as a bucket. I would say I would say it was a
Boo bowl. Boo Bowl, Yeah, Does it have?
But does it have a top like a Topper thing?
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No, no, it's completely open, which I think was always how
they did them. So it's just a little pale.
It's a pale. It's a Boo pale.
I I had a Boo bucket that was that had a pumpkin top on it.
Maybe you didn't have a Boo bucket, or maybe your McDonald's
was a lot glitzier and glamorierthan mine.
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I don't know. My God.
Well, yeah. So you didn't eat a Happy Meal
alone and got no Boo bucket? Yeah, and I know I probably
could have gone to the counter and asked for a refund, but I
also didn't want to be the guy at McDonald's asking for a
refund for my Happy Meal. You know what I mean?
It's just one of those things where you cut your losses.
Here's a question. What does a Happy Meal cost in
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2025? Because I wouldn't know.
It was north of $10. You're actually fucking kidding
me. No, you're what?
Google it right now. Right now.
Let me see. You're actually shitting me.
No, it was not. No, it was not.
I I I don't know what they are near everybody else looks like
the average nationally is around8 bucks, but I paid after taxes
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and everything worth of $10. But did you get like an extra
soda or something or like a large drink or something like on
the side? Nope.
So they gave meal. They gave you a tiny.
Fries and a small drink. A small drink net.
So you had a tiny 2 ounces of Diet Coke?
Yep, and a tiny little cheeseburger.
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Like it's so insane. People that have children and go
to eat at McDonald's are spending like $100 at
McDonald's. That's the thing.
That's the I think that's why you see the death of fast food
in a lot of places because when we were kids, you could go to
McDonald's and a family of four could eat for under $10.
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And now it's like if I'm spending that money, we're all
going out to a sit down restaurant because it's barely
going to be more. I will say I think the only
place a family of four can like a fast food place that makes
more sense would be White Castle, because you can get the
whole case for $10. Yeah, Crave case.
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There's not much I miss about eating meat.
A White Castle slider is definitely on the list.
Although they have the fish sliders.
And they are pretty good. Did you have one recently?
I did, yeah. When I was in Missouri for a few
days, we slung into a White Castle and I had a few.
They're good, I'm not going to lie.
Would I like them? I think you would because
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they're like crispy. They're not like a wet filet,
you know, like some places you get like a fish sandwich or fish
Taco and it's like gross wet impmeat.
Like it's not like that. It's very fun.
Did it taste real fishy? No, I think you, honestly, I
think that you would like it. And I actually, I may have said
that out loud with a piece of fish in my mouth.
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I think Katie would like this. OK, OK, good.
Then I'm will, then I'm open to try it.
Yeah, White Castle. Not a sponsor, but they could
be. They could be, I'm open to it.
Thank you. We did have a good Halloween,
believe it or not. We are a Dink couple.
We are a Dink household and we decided this year to give out
candy to kids and I think it went really well.
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First of all, it's the first time we've done that in our 10
year relationship. We've never handed out candy to
kids. And I think the last time I
handed out candy to kids, I was also a kid.
You know, I, and every year we've been either been at a
different party or had been out of town, or we were just
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curmudgeons and put a bowl out of candy, turned our lights off
and said take two pieces per person.
Or we haven't. Or we've lived like in an
apartment where no one would trick or treat anyways.
So that that didn't make any sense.
And this year we said, you know what, we live in a walkable
area. We live in like a neighborhood
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where people from other parts ofLA probably drive their kids in
to walk up and down 'cause it's like a really walkable
neighborhood. And all the houses seem would
seem to participate 'cause they all have like a ton of
decorations up and it I was likereally prepared to have anxiety
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and we only bought at first. You only bought one bag from
Costco of candy. Yeah.
And I was, I was pretty sure that that was going to be
enough. Like I was taking a hard stance
on that. And I panic asked you the day
before. I was like please go buy another
bag. I don't think this is enough,
and thank God you did. You were not only were you
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right, you were nuclear right. And like I think next year we
could do 3 bags and just be lessworried because towards the last
hour of it I was like, uh oh, we're getting low.
Yeah. I mean, we definitely started
rationing somewhere towards the middle because when when kids
first came up, like I got to hand it to a lot of parents that
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we experienced on Halloween, I got to say they were forcing
their kids to be very polite. Like there was a lot of what do
you say? Say please say thank you.
Only take one. Like there was a lot of that
happening and we wanted to be like the fun house.
So we're like, have a few, take as many as you want.
I said one time, take as many asyou want.
And they took that literally. And I think one kid took half
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the bucket. Yeah.
So I'm really glad we did the second bag of candy.
But well, I mean, what did you think overall?
Did you have fun? I had a good time.
I was laughing at a lot of the kids costumes cause some of them
just looked like cranky or some of them like it.
They're kind of just like miniature versions of adult
costumes. There was like a mini Peter Pan,
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but I thought he was an elf. What did I say he was?
You said? Yeah.
It was literally the kid was dressed as Peter Pan and his mom
and dad were Wendy and Captain Hook.
And you said he's such a cute crabby elf.
Because he had like he was clearly pissed off and wanted to
be asleep. He was like 2 years old maybe.
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I don't even think he was two. He was really small.
He was super. Young, but he was using his own
legs, so I don't really know what that tells us, but I
thought the dad was just like any old pirate and I didn't
really look at the mom and whatever.
You just thought the mom was in a regular clothes.
Yeah, I mean, she just had a dress on.
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I don't know. I was like, this family is
pretty disjointed and like, why they dress their kid as an elf
like it's Halloween, not Christmas.
So I don't know, in my head I didn't realize he was Peter Pan.
And then I was laughing my ass off.
I was trying to relate to the 10year olds and the 13 year olds.
And I kept panicking because I know that 6-7 is like a big
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thing going on with the youths. And so I was like trying to
relate. And so at one point the kids
were like, how many can we take?And I said I don't know, 6 or 7.
And I thought they would laugh. And they didn't laugh and they
didn't know. And they took six pieces of
candy because they didn't know it was a joke.
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So I they. Thought you were being quite
literal. And which is fine.
And they got those six pieces ofcandy and I hope they had a
great night, but overall impressed with the amount of
manners that were shown, the amount of parents that were
like, say happy Halloween, say trick or treat, say thank you.
And you know, the there were only a couple groupings of like
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613 year old boys that would runup and be like really obnoxious
and I was overwhelmed by them. Yeah, I, I experienced like a
little, I don't know if you would consider it PTSD or if it
just kind of sent me back to my childhood in the sense that like
I being around that energy, evenwhen I was that age gives me a
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lot of anxiety because I was always the kid that was the rule
follower. So like if my kids or my friends
ran up to a house the way that some of these kids did, I would
be the one going, Guys, I think we need to slow down Guys.
I think we need to take only oneor two pieces.
Guys. I whatever.
Like it really transported me. Back, stop screaming.
Yeah, I think we should stop screaming and yelling and like,
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pushing each other. Yeah, but I agree, I think it
was, I think it was fun for the most part, but my my favorite
part was the similar to yours, which was I think it's so funny
that like there's a lot of kids who are into Halloween, but
there's a lot of kids where it'sclear that their parents just
wanted it to happen. And those kids cracked me up
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because they're like, I can, I'mhere and I'm going to take your
piece of candy. But I wish I was inside watching
Bluey. Yeah, they some of them did seem
resentful to be there. And I was like, uh oh, they've
expired. They're this is past.
We've blown past their bedtime now.
Yeah, it was fun though. I I had a good time.
So I think maybe we'll do it next year.
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We'll see. We'll see what the the year
brings us. What I didn't know about
Halloween is that it? I guess it's a really popular
day to announce your pregnancy. Did You Know?
This have you seen? This listen we have an I mean, I
don't know, I'm not completely sure if they're still podcast
listeners, but friend of pod announced their pregnancy and
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congratulations to them. But this is not what made me
think of it. There were like 15 people I
follow, including celebrities that announced their pregnancy
on Halloween. And I was like, and it's and it
makes sense when I see the post because I'm like, it's adorable
to have like a pumpkin and a baby pumpkin or like a carved
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pumpkin or one celebrity that I follow.
So it was like a witch's brew. And she was like stirring,
stirring the witch's brew in thecauldron.
And then she pulled out the sonogram from the cauldron and
was like, something's brewing. Like we get like, yeah, it all,
you know, I mean, it's like, it's a lot.
I don't know. I think that I didn't realize
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until this. Like we've experienced every
Halloween and I don't ever thinkI've seen this many people
pregnant on like, I don't know, maybe it's just my feed.
Because now we're in our 30s andmore of our friends are getting
pregnant than ever before. But wow, I did not know to be
prepared. We I, I hear what you're saying,
but we have, we are of the age where people are having babies.
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It's it's happening, but those announcements come sporadically
throughout the year, very commonly.
Sure. And it was weird.
I completely agree. Like a lot of people, a lot of
people. I even saw one today that was an
additional one that was like a Halloween post from a couple
days ago. And I'm like, Jesus Christ, I
didn't know this was a thing. I really didn't or I guess.
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They'll like their costume that they dress up as will like
include the unborn or the the pregnancy stomach or whatever.
You know what I mean? Like I saw, I saw a woman that
painted her stomach as like Winnie the Pooh and then did it.
And then I saw a woman that had like, like she, she basically
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made herself a skeleton and thenpainted like a baby skeleton on
her stomach. That's pretty funny.
Which was, it was funny it. And so these are really creative
and I think, you know what I think my stance is I would take
this type of announcement over the like extra Mickey ears at
Disneyland or the like, or the like the dog wearing the like
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I'm going to be a Big Brother bandana.
Like I would take actually the Halloween mini pumpkins and the
Halloween costume announcements over the other types of
announcements any day. Yeah, I.
Agree. I kind of feel like there's
cinema in these, like they mean they're more like themed.
Like, they had to really think this out, you know?
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Yeah, I like this. I think you're right.
I'm a fan. I'm a fan.
And again, we're not crapping onit, no.
No, no. Should we actually say that
Halloween, out of all 365 days of the year, is the preferred
day to announce and that I actually thing that you
shouldn't be allowed to announceother days?
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Yeah. Let's go a step further.
We If you announce your baby on any other day than Halloween, we
will not support your family. We just.
Won't, no, but maybe I guess OK,the other one that I guess I
like and it's like played out. It's played out, but I guess
having like that, what I like the extra stocking.
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Oh no, that's so played out. I mean, it's fine, but like how
unoriginal, you know? I guess whatever.
The good news is, we'll never have to come up with one.
I know obviously we're never coming up with one period.
Secondarily to that, if we had to announce a pregnancy, how
would we do it? Wow, this is a I've never
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thought about this, but well, obviously I would.
I would have to guess. Like if we were to announce,
we'd probably shoot some sort ofcomedy sketch where it's a it's
a mislead and then it ends up being some hilarious reveal.
So the Alex and John couple thatI showed you on Instagram and
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TikTok, they shot a sketch turning in their dink cards to
like HR. So they played their own, their
own HR and then they turned in their dink cards or whatever.
And then the HR was like, well, you know, you don't get
unlimited vacations now. And they were like, yeah.
And then the HR person was like,and, you know, you don't get
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sleep. And they were like, yeah.
And then they handed it in anyways, you know, So I thought
that was really creative. I think ours, we would make like
a Price is Right game, like a either a Plinko board or like
over under or something. And then like the reveal at the
bottom of the board would be like a baby or something, you
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know what I mean? Like something like that, yeah.
Yeah, I think something fun though, something fun and
award-winning like that. Yeah.
But, and, and by the way, we arenot going to, we've, we've faked
a wedding announcement before, an engagement announcement
before, because we shot these photos with my sister-in-law as
a photographer and we put them out there and we're like, OK,
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this could be fun. For April Fool's Day.
But it is a funny thing to thinkabout because if people it's and
by the way, we were talking to afriend about coming up for the
name of their baby. And as we talked about it, I
didn't realize. I mean, I, I knew it was a
stressful thing, but like, they were explaining how they can't
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pick the names of anybody that reminds them of an ex-girlfriend
or a family member they didn't get along with or somebody in
the news or a person in high school that they disliked.
And I'm like. God, not only that.
Stressful. Not only that, I don't think you
can pick a name of someone that you know and do have a good
context for unless it's like a great grandmother.
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Because even if they like me andyou right, they are best
friends, they're not going to name their kid Katie and Cameron
because they already know a Katie and Cameron and it would
be weird for them to be calling after their child Katie or
Cameron. Like even though we're positive
people in their life, you so youbasically can't name your kid
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anyone you know at all or have ever known.
That's insane. And.
This is where and this is where the middle name comes into play,
I think because that is the slot.
I I believe that's why it was invented.
I'm just going to go with that. That sounds right.
Sure it was. It was the placeholder for those
family names or the friend namesor the Yeah, all of that.
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But that's every part. Of having a kid is stressful.
Well yeah, and I would be worried about fucking it up.
And on a previous episode we talked about how I have regrets
on our dogs names and how they're not original enough.
And I absolutely think we would name our kid and we would
somehow have regret later. Yeah, I mean, it would be really
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hard to. And I almost guarantee you
anybody that's been through it has hit the stage where they've
they've like finally landed on aname and then like a year and
they're like, Oh, well, we just kind of have to deal with it,
you know? Yeah.
Or you just start with like the nickname phase.
Yeah, you just don't use it. That's easy too.
You pretty much can make it up as you go.
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That's what we do with our pets.OK, real quick, I want to read
through this Pew Research poll that just came out.
Like I said this week, Pew, by the way, a nonpartisan,
nonprofit think tank. So they don't really take sides.
They just present the research and they put out a research
study all about DINKS. And they cover, first of all,
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they say, what is a DINK? In this study?
They define a DINK as married couples in which both spouses
earn an income and at least one spouse is above the age of 30
and under the age 49 for whatever reason.
This is the the measure. This is the the zone.
And I think the reason is because people in their 40s
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sometimes change their mind likeand decide, oh crap, I actually
do want a kid. This is this is the window at
which they studied the focus being on married couples because
married couples are more likely to pool their finances together.
You don't really have a ton of or at least statistically, they
don't want to present a dual income, no kids situation
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officially until you're married.That's that's how they looked at
this research study, but I thinkit would probably still apply
out of that. Sure.
And also I would like to submit to what are they called again,
Pew, I would like to submit to Pew that you can be a dink at
any age. So I don't really get the 30 to
40 or whatever, but OK. I know you can be, but they're
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looking at when it's most commonand and amongst who it's most
common, that's who they're looking at.
That's the reason they have thisthing.
So fine. Some of the takeaways among
married couples or at least one spouse is in the 30s and 40s and
it is a DINK life, 12 percent, 12% are likely to be Dinks, and
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this is up from a study that happened about 10 years ago
where that number was at 8%. So according to the research,
choosing the DINK lifestyle is becoming more and more popular
over the years. Not surprised, I thought it
would be higher than 12%, didn'tyou?
That's. A lot of people though, think,
think about this like of all thepeople that we know in our life,
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friends and family, everybody involved, a lot of them want
kids. We have a few friends that don't
want kids, but most of them do. And I so if you think of it like
one in every eight people don't want kids, that's pretty high, I
guess. I don't know, I think we've
curated our friend group to be. We have totally.
We have totally. We have.
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But like I I think our friend group is 8 out of 10 don't want
kids. 100%, but that is within our friend group.
Those are the, those are the people we've chosen to be around
more than others, you know. So I think what's what's
interesting here, I think the main take away is it was 8%,
it's now 12%. That is like a 30% increase.
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It's going up and I think it's going to continue going up.
And at the same time, couples with kids in a single income has
dropped from 34% to 27%. So like that's also going down,
this is going up, that's going down.
So it's it's trending in that direction.
Some other takeaways. Couples tend to be younger than
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dual income couples with kids. The median age of older.
The median age of DINKS are 36. The median age of dual income
with kids 43. In terms of education, I thought
this one was interesting. 58% ofDINK couples, both spouses have
at least a bachelor's degree. Dual income couples with kids
43%. So that's like what is that 15%
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higher that both of you have a, a four year degree or more if
you don't have children. That's not surprising at all.
At all. At all.
Well, because a lot of times oneperson has to sacrifice
continuing their education to, like, stay home with the kids or
raise the kids or yeah, yeah. I mean, at least yeah, that
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happens a lot. And that's kind of the same
thing. The another stat that came out
of it, employment, 81% of DINK couples, both spouses work full
time, 68% of dual income with kids, couples both work full
time. So it's not surprising like a
lot of times one of the parents will end up not having that full
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time job anymore to take care ofthe kids at home like that.
That one's not surprising at all.
Yeah, there's someone I work with who has, you know, been
open with me and said that her salary is basically exactly what
it would cost to have a nanny. So and she does need a part time
nanny because she can't work full time without a part time
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nanny. So she was like, at some points
it feels like I'm breaking even because while I work, I'm paying
for childcare. So my salary is basically just
paying for childcare so I can work.
And it's just like the chicken or the egg.
And so it would make they their household income would basically
be the same if she didn't work and she just took care of their
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child, which is crazy to think about.
It's crazy easy to think about and I don't mean to say.
I don't mean to say just took care of their child as though
that's not a job because I thinkit is a job and my mom was a
stay at home mom and it was obviously a very hard job.
I'm just saying just as an only job is the child and not having
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a second career. Yeah.
No, no, 100%. I know what you mean.
And I think it's also because you don't want, like, having a
childcare is not an expense you want to skimp out on.
Like you don't want to cut corners with the person taking
care of the life that you created.
You know, you want somebody qualified and safe with a good
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track record, who's above board,all that stuff.
It's not cheap. Speaking of money though, this
is interesting and not at all what I would have expected.
The wealth median wealth is opposite what you would think.
Dinks median wealth Yeah, Dinks median wealth household 214,000
Dual income with kids 361,000. Isn't that interesting?
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Well, I think it's because Dinksare blowing it.
They're blowing their money for a couple of reasons.
Yeah, it's it, You're 100% right.
But it's for it's for that reason and also this.
When you have a kid, you're morelikely to move to an area where
you can buy a house and that house accrues equity like an
investment. So you're quote UN quote
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building wealth, but it's like you're not, it's not fluid cash.
You're building wealth because your value of your home is going
up. Meanwhile, we're going on, you
know, vacations and buying, you know, booters or ATVs or
whatever DINK people do and thenalso saving liquid money or long
term investments or whatever. But I thought that was
interesting because I would have, I would have thought that
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it would be like if the median wealth of a DINK couple or a
DINK couple was like 500,000, then the couple with kids would
be like 100,000. That's kind of what I was going
into it thinking. But this makes sense, I guess
you know? I that's fine.
It's just crazy to think of like, I guess your assets are
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all worth that, but then they'regoing to have to pay for the
kids to like go to college or whatever.
Like we talked about a kid is where it usually costs about
$400,000 to raise to the age of 18.
And that's like minimum. So it's like I I'm happy for
them that they have more wealth because they need it.
They do need it. They need it to cover all those
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little nose minors and, you know, food eaters.
That's what they call kids. Last thing in this is kind of,
you know, large reason we started the podcast.
The data points out that Dinks are not child free by default,
but a specific distinct socio economic segment of people,
meaning that times are changing and there are people that exist
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where they can't have kids but want them so they don't have
kids. But there are more and more
people who choose to not have kids and not do that chapter of
life. So I thought it was interesting.
I know that these things can kind of be boring sometimes, but
I thought it was interesting, yeah.
Agreed. Thanks, Pew.
Thanks for. Doing all that hard work.
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The last thing I want to say, and we have more Reddit stories
to get to next week. But I had to bring this up
because I think it's hilarious. A woman wrote wrote this on the
child free Reddit. It's a great it's a great read.
There's a ton of activity on there.
There's people that like seek advice but also share funny
stories like this. And this is from a 31 year old
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woman who is a substitute teacher, 3rd through 8th
graders. That is a really rough age of
kids to be a sub for. I remember that very well when
we had a substitute teacher. Oh, my God.
That's like today's F and off day, you know?
Yeah. So she writes and says at this
one middle school in a super small town, students are
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obsessed with talking to me about my marital status and if I
have kids. I think it's hilarious.
Yesterday, two kids came up to me, two young girls, and asked
if I had a son. When I told them no, one of the
girls said I knew she looked young.
And the other girl said you lookyoung because you don't have a
son. Oh my God, I would.
I would carry that compliment with me forever.
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I know right? And and that's not to shame
anybody that has kids. It's just funny.
But the the lady finishes the post by saying I'm always open
not wanting about not wanting kids when I'm asked because I
think the students need to be exposed to different life
choices they can make, which I thought was really cool.
And it's not about if you're a teacher.
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It's not about pointing out likehow horrible it is to have a
kid. That's not what anybody's
saying. But it's important to know that
you don't have to choose the same path as everyone.
I think that's super. Cool.
I think especially for little girls, you're always told in
school, or at least I was alwaystold in school.
Like, you grow up and have a baby.
Like, your biological purpose isto be a mom.
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I mean, I also went to, like, elementary school in the
Midwest, so there might have been some of that happening.
But I think it would have been really cool if I had grown up
and had a substitute teacher or a teacher that was like, yeah,
you don't have to have a family or kids when you grow up.
Like I was the first person I know of that decided not to have
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kids of anyone I went to school with of anyone.
Like now I think I know of one other girl that I was friends
with in high school that chose not to have kids.
But other than that every singleone of them is on that path.
Which is fine, but like it wouldhave been cool to not feel like
the only one that thought that. Yeah, I think it just shows and
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it's it's it's really, this bleeds through every aspect of
life. It shows like, hey, if you want
to have kids, your people are out there.
And if you don't want to have kids, your people are out there,
too. I think it's really, really
cool. So, all right, well, that does
it for this week on the dink side.
Anything else, babe? No, No trick or treat.
No Boo bucket. I kind of do want to go get that
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Happy Meal again. I will say at least no one said
smell my feet give me something good to eat like they didn't do
the whole rhyme. I don't want the smell.
My feet, right? Is that the rhyme Trick or
treat? Yeah, that's all my feet.
Give me something good to eat. Like at least they stopped at
trick or treat. God bless.
God bless.
There's a new term buzzing on the Internet, Dick.
Dual income? No, kid, you probably have an
opinion on these people or an opinion on people who have an
opinion on these people. America's birth rate has hit its
lowest point in more than a century.
Some are blaming it on infertility.
Others say the state of the world is causing couples to
think twice about having children.
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Childless marriages could be a good thing if they were a result
of God's sovereign providential work.
Oh my God, can't even. Hear you.
They like avocado toast and brunches out and going to plays
and having sweet vacations. Yeah, you're probably super
selfish. Kids are better than brunch.
Wrong. And then there's another group
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of young couples that wants the lifestyle of childless
households and the lifestyle it brings with it.
Thanks shooting. Welcome to The DINK Side, the
podcast about life, laughs and living child free.
We're a double income, no kids couple navigating the UPS, downs
and hilarious in betweens of choosing a different path in a
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world that won't stop asking. So when are you having kids?
When are you having them? Today on the podcast there is a
new Pew Research study that justcame out this week on the Dink
Life. So we're going to get to that
and figure out what Pew is. I don't know who they are, but
people respect them. We went to the World Series.
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I have a story about a happy meal gone wrong.
We're going to talk about our childless and child.
Full recap of Halloween. Some stories ripped from Reddit.
But first there was a headline in our household.
Kids have moved next door. Yeah, yeah, you heard it here
1st and we'll probably continue to hear about it.
I don't know. Here's the thing the people next
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door sucked already and there was like a psycho lady that had
turf wars about our trash cans and we came toe to toe.
But then I saw a for sale sign in their front yard and I was
like oh dope bye bitch and they sold their house.
Somehow in this market no one will ever understand how and a
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new family just moved in yesterday and I was not the one
that saw the children you said you did not see, but you heard
children and that is cause for concern.
Well. I mean, it's just for a little
bit of context here. So the house next door to ours
is like one of these kind of mini mansions.
We live in a neighborhood that has a bunch of cute little
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cottages that are like 3 bedrooms and 1500 square feet.
And developers have been buying them up, knocking them down and
putting 5000 square foot houses that can fit a billion kids in
their place. And so does it make sense that a
family moved in next door? Sure.
Is it something we were looking to avoid for the rest of our
lives? Yeah.
Because we have had the extreme end of shitty neighbors when it
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comes to having kids. Yeah.
And so it's just triggering. I will say I worked from home
today and I didn't hear them most of the day.
Unfortunately, it is 6:40 PM as we live and breathe and I can
hear them playing while we record the podcast.
So I don't know how to feel. I have.
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I do think that I have. Yeah, there's.
Child PTSD. So as as I'm trying to think of
the second-half of my sentence, I was derailed by shrieking.
Do you have anxiety in my body regarding this?
And I am looking for reasons to live currently.
Yeah, I mean, it's not, it's tough because we, like I said,
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we lived at two places maybe twoplaces ago.
We lived in a a townhouse where the neighbors directly across
from us were. I mean, their house was probably
20 feet away from ours. It wasn't super far.
And their kids would play out front all day, all times of day.
They would just scream. They would kick soccer balls
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against our garage door. It was hell on earth.
And I think like, we're reasonable, rational people.
If you hear a kid playing outside for a little while, it's
not the end of the world. Where it becomes a problem is
like, you work from home a lot of times when you're not
traveling for comedy and you were waking up at like 7:00 AM
to kids fucking terrorizing the neighborhood.
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And so on the extreme end, I think we're afraid of that
happening again. On the other hand, go ahead.
I I get that. I get that it takes it.
It's impossible to completely avoid living next to children
unless like to take that into our own hands unless we were to
move into a retirement community.
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Which I've said this before, I Idon't know why retirement
communities are 55 plus if they had like, OK, here's a new
business idea, retirement community communities that are
55 plus and you can get in if you don't have children.
This is, yeah, it's an amazing idea.
It's an amazing idea because youwere saying, OK, well, because I
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had a full spiral about it last night when you said you heard
the children and I was like, great, so do we have to move
again in a year? Like what's happening?
And you're like, well, even if we move, there's no way to ever
guarantee that your neighbors aren't children.
And there's no if we move into adifferent apartment, there's no
way to guarantee, at least rightnow, we're not sharing a wall
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with them, but we are sharing a fence with them.
And they are expressing themselves through screaming.
So it is on my mind and I'm. Just hoping though, that it's
like you said at 6:40 PM and youhear it for a bit at 6:40 and
then in a little bit it just goes out like that.
I think I can live with. What I can't live with is every
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hour of the day. It's just fucking mayhem.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know that that's just
where I'm at right now, but it'sand it's stressful and it's
concerning. I you know what else I don't
get? I went to the store today and I
was just grabbing a few essentials we were out of.
We usually shop at Costco. Shout out Kirkland everything.
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And today I got a few essentialsthat we usually get at Costco,
but instead I got them at Targetand I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
It was the store I was next. To.
Cheater. I know that no targets Lander
cancelled. Oh, I see what you're saying.
I get what you're saying now, OK.
Yeah, yeah, I wasn't apologizingfor cheating on Costco, but I
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was apologizing for the social state of the world.
Anyways, I haven't bought toiletpaper, not at Costco in I think
years. And I was I was stricken with
anxiety. I first of all, there's forty
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types of toilet paper and a million brands and why are they
different? You wipe your ass with it.
What what's the difference? What's the difference of all
these Sure, I get that there's one or two ply great, one or two
ply. Why are there 70 options?
And why? Why if you're buying toilet
paper for your family at Target,are you made of gold?
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It? If you have children and you're
buying toilet paper from Target,what tax bracket are you in?
Because at Costco, there's one brand and you know what?
It comes in a pack of 60 and youknow how much it is $15.
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Yeah, right. I mean, it, it's it's 15 bucks,
I think it's 24 double plied rolls, but they're thick.
You can't get rolls this thick, not at Costco.
And first of all, single ply should be illegal for people to
buy. It's it your fingers going to
poke right through it, you're going to end up touching your
own butt hole. Like it's not humane.
It should be illegal. You know, it's not humane.
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And like you said, what I don't understand is how they can get
away with this. It happens with paper towels
too. By the way, Bounty should be
called not the quicker picker upbut the quick money eater or
something like that. It's outrageous.
Called the quick bankruptor. That's it.
That should be the new name. But I also think because, you
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know, when we were moving, we were living with your mom for a
few weeks and she uses a different type of toilet paper,
and that's her right. But I have to say, my body is
used to Kirkland's signature andI can't use anything else.
Just doesn't work. It doesn't work for me.
I just was so taken aback by theprice difference because yes, at
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Costco if you buy things in bulk, technically you're saving
money blah blah blah, but you'resaving like $30 on the toilet
paper specifically. Time.
It's insane. So today I took out a small
business loan under KDK Comedy LLC and I bought us toilet paper
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from Target and I am just like thank God we're two adults and
we don't have children that are also wiping their asses with
this toilet paper because I could we couldn't afford to
paper the house. No, no, I and by the way, there
are people out there that say there are people out there that
say Costco, it doesn't really save you any money.
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You're absolutely wrong about that.
You're absolutely wrong about that.
Do you have to have self-control?
Sure. Are they going to try to get you
to buy a scooter on your way to the register with your toilet
paper? Of course they are.
But if you behave, you can save a lot of dough.
We actually have really good friends of ours that are having
a baby and are they just moved into a new place and our gift to
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them was a Costco membership. I don't want to toot my own
horn. I think we might have saved
their lives I diapers. Alone at.
Costco. Yeah.
I mean, by the way, I have no idea what a diaper cost, but I
know they're cheaper there. There's without a doubt they're
cheaper at Costco, you know. Yeah, I'm going to have to buy
adult ones at some point. That's when I'll find out.
OK so the kids moving next door,if you do have any advice, send
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us Adm the Dinkside pod on Instagram where you can hit KDK
comedy or it's Cameron Lewis. Would love to know what you have
done in the past to kind of navigate this situation.
I expect that at some point we'll probably have to meet the
neighbors and chat. I don't know, maybe it won't be
that bad. We'll see, time will tell, but
if you have any advice, let us know.
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We had. Is it about playing the long
game? Do I go over with cookies and
leave them like a note and then they are like obsessed with me?
And then if their kids are shitty, I can go over and be
like, hi, like, do I have to play the long con?
That's not a bad idea. Oh wait, how about we give them
cookies that that are infused with THC so that when they
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consume them, the kids get sleepy?
You know what I mean? I think that's a good idea.
Or some other kind of sedative that is child safe.
What you know, it's not about harming the kids, it's about
making them go to bed. See, I think you meant CBD.
No, I meant THC. Sure.
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Anyway, we had a first for us, certainly in our lives and and
maybe our last because I don't know what kind of money we're
going to make in the future, butwe went to the World Series for
the first time. Thanks to a good friend of mine.
Thank you again, Steph, ZI have.To say this good friend of ours,
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how dare you? A good friend of ours.
I'm sorry, I It was super fun and it's been an incredible
World Series to watch this year.We did happen to catch the game
where the the Los Angeles Dodgers played the worst
possible game imaginable, but westill had a blast.
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But we walked away. Because I was there and I am bad
luck. You do have really bad sports
luck, I'm not going to lie. Have I taken you to a soccer
game where they've won? Not once.
Ever. I think I have been the only
time I've been to 00 tie games or when you have been with me.
Yeah, but we walked away from the World Series with a question
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that was resounding in our head,ringing over and over again,
which is why the hell would you bring a kid to a World Series
game or any expensive sporting event?
Imagine the tickets, there were kids sitting behind home plate
for minimum like $10,000. There were kids sitting near us
that were minimum $800 like seats.
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And these children, while they were, I will say, mini faith in
humanity, like mini peep into that segment.
There were children in front of us, two children, and they were
silent the entire game, very well behaved.
But imagine spending $1600 for them to sit there and be bored
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because they were not paying attention to the game.
They were not there to, like, learn baseball from their dad or
their mom or their mom, whatever.
They weren't there to, like, learn about the game and they
looked bored. And one of them was on an iPad
the whole time. You spent $1600 to have your
kids sit there and be bored and be on their iPad?
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What? And I know what you're going to
say if you're seeing this or listening to this, I know what
you're going to say. The kids, they come in for free.
They were sitting on the laps. No, these were fully seated
children. They were above the age of 5,
below the age of 10. They had to buy a ticket for
their own seat. So they fully paid for these
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kids to go to this game. And I completely agree with you.
What is dumbfounding to me is ifyou're a kid and you go to a
baseball game, you don't know that it's the World Series you
have. There's no way that you know
that this game is more significant than any other.
You could tell. I mean, I love I love you, but
kids are stupid because they're still learning.
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You could tell a kid that the cheapest game is a World Series
game. They won't know the difference.
And they and they would believe you.
The only exception to this is I saw like a dad and his son and
they had score books out and he looked like he was about 11 or
12 and they were scoring the game together and really paying
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attention. That's different.
That's like a core memory. He clearly has like learned
baseball from being a little kid.
These two other little kids werelike just being well behaved
children sitting through a threehour game.
Yeah, yes, sure. Maybe there's some people that
were in the same position as us where they either won tickets or
someone gifted them tickets. So yes, maybe there's a chance
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that this family of four was gifted 4 tickets, but there were
not enough gifted tickets to account for all the children at
the World Series. No.
And there were many. I mean, it was chock full of
kids. Chock full of kids.
It's just crazy. I don't and great if you have
expendable money to do that, sure I guess.
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But if I had just like shit tonsof money, that's not what I
would blow it on. I, I OK, this is going to get
like super get off my lawn type of stuff, but so be it.
Judge me however you want. I don't care.
I don't think that a kid should be taught at that young of an
age that it's that easy for themto go to something so expensive.
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Do you know what I'm saying? Sure.
I also went in this past week. I went to an NFL game, the first
NFL game I've ever been to, a Rams game, and I went.
Through work 35 years. Yeah, it took me 35 years and I
and I went through work and we were seating in a seated in one
of those boxes, like a private box thing or whatever.
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There were kids in there. These kids had, they don't know
how good they have it, you know,and they're going to grow up
thinking this is a normal thing.Yeah.
It's crazy because it's like, I guess if the parents want to
include their kid in like cool experiences, that's one thing,
But I think we are being the like, you have to work for it
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energy and it took you 35 years to get a free favor.
We're in our free sports. Like yes, we're in our sports
era, but we're in our free shit sports era because we're
actually not paying to go to anyof this.
Yeah, we're super lucky. And if we did have to pay to go
to it, we wouldn't have gone because we couldn't afford the
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tickets. So we wouldn't, we wouldn't have
gone to the World Series. We can't afford it.
And you wouldn't have paid to goto the Rams game, much less sit
in a box, if we could afford it 'cause I was asking you what the
nosebleeds cost at both of thesegames.
And the nosebleeds were hundredsof dollars.
Yeah, especially at the NFL game, just because they only
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play. I don't know what the number is.
I'm new to this. 1520 games a year or whatever it is by, you
know, proxy, they're going to bemore expensive.
There's fewer of them anyway. The World Series one definitely
takes the cake. I don't get it.
I don't get how you can justify it at all.
Yeah, it's kind of on the same page as why are you bringing
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that newborn baby to Disneyland?You know what I mean?
But I think newborn babies get into Disney for free.
I think if you're under one or two you get in for free.
OK, that makes more sense. But also you're ruining your own
time cuz who wants to carry a newborn around Disney?
Should I tell my Happy Meal story?
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Yeah. OK, so last week leading up to
Halloween, I was super excited because McDonald's brought back
the Boo buckets and if you were a 90s kid, you likely had one of
these. These were the buckets that many
kids had and they took them trick or treating.
This was the thing that held your candy when you went door to
door. Very fun, very festive, very
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cool. McDonald's brought them back.
So I thought to myself, this would be a fun thing to get
because we were planning on giving out candy this year for
the first time in a few years. And so one day last week I went
to McDonald's to get one and it didn't exactly go my way.
I walked in and I asked the cashier at the counter, do you
guys have the Boo bucket still? And she said, yeah, we have the
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green one, but only the green one left.
OK, I I wanted the orange one, but the green one will do.
So I order a happy meal. Mind you, we are pescetarian.
I'm not going to eat the burger.I know that full fully.
When I order this thing, I'm going to get it.
Maybe have a fryer to throw everything out.
Keep the Boo bucket. That was the plan.
So I order, I go sit down. A few minutes later somebody
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brings me a tray with a Happy Meal box on the tray.
And I was like, oh, can I get the Boo bucket?
And they said, oh, we're out. So and so at the front counter
had it wrong. There's none left.
And So what ended up happening was I went to McDonald's by
myself on like a the middle of the week afternoon and was
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sitting in there and what lookedlike to everybody else that I
just ordered a Happy Meal for myself.
And by the way, yes, because they didn't even give me a
backup toy. So if we had a kid, they would
have walked away unhappy. Well that kid probably would
have cried and lost faith in theworld.
Yeah, as they should have. And by the way, also it kind of
worked out because I, I found out as I was leaving somebody
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else like was pointing it. They had like the display case,
you know, where the the buckets were and God forbid they break
the thing and give me that, thatone.
But they're tiny. They were tiny compared to the
ones in the 90s. So it's true what they say.
Everything used to be better. How big is tiny?
Like the size of a like a coffeemug or how big is it tiny?
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I would say like the like the size of like a, a soup bowl, but
just slightly deeper. You know, I would not describe
it as a bucket. I would say I would say it was a
Boo bowl. Boo Bowl, Yeah, Does it have?
But does it have a top like a Topper thing?
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No, no, it's completely open, which I think was always how
they did them. So it's just a little pale.
It's a pale. It's a Boo pale.
I I had a Boo bucket that was that had a pumpkin top on it.
Maybe you didn't have a Boo bucket, or maybe your McDonald's
was a lot glitzier and glamorierthan mine.
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I don't know. My God.
Well, yeah. So you didn't eat a Happy Meal
alone and got no Boo bucket? Yeah, and I know I probably
could have gone to the counter and asked for a refund, but I
also didn't want to be the guy at McDonald's asking for a
refund for my Happy Meal. You know what I mean?
It's just one of those things where you cut your losses.
Here's a question. What does a Happy Meal cost in
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2025? Because I wouldn't know.
It was north of $10. You're actually fucking kidding
me. No, you're what?
Google it right now. Right now.
Let me see. You're actually shitting me.
No, it was not. No, it was not.
I I I don't know what they are near everybody else looks like
the average nationally is around8 bucks, but I paid after taxes
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and everything worth of $10. But did you get like an extra
soda or something or like a large drink or something like on
the side? Nope.
So they gave meal. They gave you a tiny.
Fries and a small drink. A small drink net.
So you had a tiny 2 ounces of Diet Coke?
Yep, and a tiny little cheeseburger.
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Like it's so insane. People that have children and go
to eat at McDonald's are spending like $100 at
McDonald's. That's the thing.
That's the I think that's why you see the death of fast food
in a lot of places because when we were kids, you could go to
McDonald's and a family of four could eat for under $10.
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And now it's like if I'm spending that money, we're all
going out to a sit down restaurant because it's barely
going to be more. I will say I think the only
place a family of four can like a fast food place that makes
more sense would be White Castle, because you can get the
whole case for $10. Yeah, Crave case.
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There's not much I miss about eating meat.
A White Castle slider is definitely on the list.
Although they have the fish sliders.
And they are pretty good. Did you have one recently?
I did, yeah. When I was in Missouri for a few
days, we slung into a White Castle and I had a few.
They're good, I'm not going to lie.
Would I like them? I think you would because
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they're like crispy. They're not like a wet filet,
you know, like some places you get like a fish sandwich or fish
Taco and it's like gross wet impmeat.
Like it's not like that. It's very fun.
Did it taste real fishy? No, I think you, honestly, I
think that you would like it. And I actually, I may have said
that out loud with a piece of fish in my mouth.
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I think Katie would like this. OK, OK, good.
Then I'm will, then I'm open to try it.
Yeah, White Castle. Not a sponsor, but they could
be. They could be, I'm open to it.
Thank you. We did have a good Halloween,
believe it or not. We are a Dink couple.
We are a Dink household and we decided this year to give out
candy to kids and I think it went really well.
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First of all, it's the first time we've done that in our 10
year relationship. We've never handed out candy to
kids. And I think the last time I
handed out candy to kids, I was also a kid.
You know, I, and every year we've been either been at a
different party or had been out of town, or we were just
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curmudgeons and put a bowl out of candy, turned our lights off
and said take two pieces per person.
Or we haven't. Or we've lived like in an
apartment where no one would trick or treat anyways.
So that that didn't make any sense.
And this year we said, you know what, we live in a walkable
area. We live in like a neighborhood
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where people from other parts ofLA probably drive their kids in
to walk up and down 'cause it's like a really walkable
neighborhood. And all the houses seem would
seem to participate 'cause they all have like a ton of
decorations up and it I was likereally prepared to have anxiety
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and we only bought at first. You only bought one bag from
Costco of candy. Yeah.
And I was, I was pretty sure that that was going to be
enough. Like I was taking a hard stance
on that. And I panic asked you the day
before. I was like please go buy another
bag. I don't think this is enough,
and thank God you did. You were not only were you
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right, you were nuclear right. And like I think next year we
could do 3 bags and just be lessworried because towards the last
hour of it I was like, uh oh, we're getting low.
Yeah. I mean, we definitely started
rationing somewhere towards the middle because when when kids
first came up, like I got to hand it to a lot of parents that
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we experienced on Halloween, I got to say they were forcing
their kids to be very polite. Like there was a lot of what do
you say? Say please say thank you.
Only take one. Like there was a lot of that
happening and we wanted to be like the fun house.
So we're like, have a few, take as many as you want.
I said one time, take as many asyou want.
And they took that literally. And I think one kid took half
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the bucket. Yeah.
So I'm really glad we did the second bag of candy.
But well, I mean, what did you think overall?
Did you have fun? I had a good time.
I was laughing at a lot of the kids costumes cause some of them
just looked like cranky or some of them like it.
They're kind of just like miniature versions of adult
costumes. There was like a mini Peter Pan,
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but I thought he was an elf. What did I say he was?
You said? Yeah.
It was literally the kid was dressed as Peter Pan and his mom
and dad were Wendy and Captain Hook.
And you said he's such a cute crabby elf.
Because he had like he was clearly pissed off and wanted to
be asleep. He was like 2 years old maybe.
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I don't even think he was two. He was really small.
He was super. Young, but he was using his own
legs, so I don't really know what that tells us, but I
thought the dad was just like any old pirate and I didn't
really look at the mom and whatever.
You just thought the mom was in a regular clothes.
Yeah, I mean, she just had a dress on.
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I don't know. I was like, this family is
pretty disjointed and like, why they dress their kid as an elf
like it's Halloween, not Christmas.
So I don't know, in my head I didn't realize he was Peter Pan.
And then I was laughing my ass off.
I was trying to relate to the 10year olds and the 13 year olds.
And I kept panicking because I know that 6-7 is like a big
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thing going on with the youths. And so I was like trying to
relate. And so at one point the kids
were like, how many can we take?And I said I don't know, 6 or 7.
And I thought they would laugh. And they didn't laugh and they
didn't know. And they took six pieces of
candy because they didn't know it was a joke.
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So I they. Thought you were being quite
literal. And which is fine.
And they got those six pieces ofcandy and I hope they had a
great night, but overall impressed with the amount of
manners that were shown, the amount of parents that were
like, say happy Halloween, say trick or treat, say thank you.
And you know, the there were only a couple groupings of like
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613 year old boys that would runup and be like really obnoxious
and I was overwhelmed by them. Yeah, I, I experienced like a
little, I don't know if you would consider it PTSD or if it
just kind of sent me back to my childhood in the sense that like
I being around that energy, evenwhen I was that age gives me a
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lot of anxiety because I was always the kid that was the rule
follower. So like if my kids or my friends
ran up to a house the way that some of these kids did, I would
be the one going, Guys, I think we need to slow down Guys.
I think we need to take only oneor two pieces.
Guys. I whatever.
Like it really transported me. Back, stop screaming.
Yeah, I think we should stop screaming and yelling and like,
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pushing each other. Yeah, but I agree, I think it
was, I think it was fun for the most part, but my my favorite
part was the similar to yours, which was I think it's so funny
that like there's a lot of kids who are into Halloween, but
there's a lot of kids where it'sclear that their parents just
wanted it to happen. And those kids cracked me up
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because they're like, I can, I'mhere and I'm going to take your
piece of candy. But I wish I was inside watching
Bluey. Yeah, they some of them did seem
resentful to be there. And I was like, uh oh, they've
expired. They're this is past.
We've blown past their bedtime now.
Yeah, it was fun though. I I had a good time.
So I think maybe we'll do it next year.
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We'll see. We'll see what the the year
brings us. What I didn't know about
Halloween is that it? I guess it's a really popular
day to announce your pregnancy. Did You Know?
This have you seen? This listen we have an I mean, I
don't know, I'm not completely sure if they're still podcast
listeners, but friend of pod announced their pregnancy and
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congratulations to them. But this is not what made me
think of it. There were like 15 people I
follow, including celebrities that announced their pregnancy
on Halloween. And I was like, and it's and it
makes sense when I see the post because I'm like, it's adorable
to have like a pumpkin and a baby pumpkin or like a carved
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pumpkin or one celebrity that I follow.
So it was like a witch's brew. And she was like stirring,
stirring the witch's brew in thecauldron.
And then she pulled out the sonogram from the cauldron and
was like, something's brewing. Like we get like, yeah, it all,
you know, I mean, it's like, it's a lot.
I don't know. I think that I didn't realize
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until this. Like we've experienced every
Halloween and I don't ever thinkI've seen this many people
pregnant on like, I don't know, maybe it's just my feed.
Because now we're in our 30s andmore of our friends are getting
pregnant than ever before. But wow, I did not know to be
prepared. We I, I hear what you're saying,
but we have, we are of the age where people are having babies.
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It's it's happening, but those announcements come sporadically
throughout the year, very commonly.
Sure. And it was weird.
I completely agree. Like a lot of people, a lot of
people. I even saw one today that was an
additional one that was like a Halloween post from a couple
days ago. And I'm like, Jesus Christ, I
didn't know this was a thing. I really didn't or I guess.
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They'll like their costume that they dress up as will like
include the unborn or the the pregnancy stomach or whatever.
You know what I mean? Like I saw, I saw a woman that
painted her stomach as like Winnie the Pooh and then did it.
And then I saw a woman that had like, like she, she basically
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made herself a skeleton and thenpainted like a baby skeleton on
her stomach. That's pretty funny.
Which was, it was funny it. And so these are really creative
and I think, you know what I think my stance is I would take
this type of announcement over the like extra Mickey ears at
Disneyland or the like, or the like the dog wearing the like
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I'm going to be a Big Brother bandana.
Like I would take actually the Halloween mini pumpkins and the
Halloween costume announcements over the other types of
announcements any day. Yeah, I.
Agree. I kind of feel like there's
cinema in these, like they mean they're more like themed.
Like, they had to really think this out, you know?
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Yeah, I like this. I think you're right.
I'm a fan. I'm a fan.
And again, we're not crapping onit, no.
No, no. Should we actually say that
Halloween, out of all 365 days of the year, is the preferred
day to announce and that I actually thing that you
shouldn't be allowed to announceother days?
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Yeah. Let's go a step further.
We If you announce your baby on any other day than Halloween, we
will not support your family. We just.
Won't, no, but maybe I guess OK,the other one that I guess I
like and it's like played out. It's played out, but I guess
having like that, what I like the extra stocking.
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Oh no, that's so played out. I mean, it's fine, but like how
unoriginal, you know? I guess whatever.
The good news is, we'll never have to come up with one.
I know obviously we're never coming up with one period.
Secondarily to that, if we had to announce a pregnancy, how
would we do it? Wow, this is a I've never
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thought about this, but well, obviously I would.
I would have to guess. Like if we were to announce,
we'd probably shoot some sort ofcomedy sketch where it's a it's
a mislead and then it ends up being some hilarious reveal.
So the Alex and John couple thatI showed you on Instagram and
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TikTok, they shot a sketch turning in their dink cards to
like HR. So they played their own, their
own HR and then they turned in their dink cards or whatever.
And then the HR was like, well, you know, you don't get
unlimited vacations now. And they were like, yeah.
And then the HR person was like,and, you know, you don't get
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sleep. And they were like, yeah.
And then they handed it in anyways, you know, So I thought
that was really creative. I think ours, we would make like
a Price is Right game, like a either a Plinko board or like
over under or something. And then like the reveal at the
bottom of the board would be like a baby or something, you
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know what I mean? Like something like that, yeah.
Yeah, I think something fun though, something fun and
award-winning like that. Yeah.
But, and, and by the way, we arenot going to, we've, we've faked
a wedding announcement before, an engagement announcement
before, because we shot these photos with my sister-in-law as
a photographer and we put them out there and we're like, OK,
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this could be fun. For April Fool's Day.
But it is a funny thing to thinkabout because if people it's and
by the way, we were talking to afriend about coming up for the
name of their baby. And as we talked about it, I
didn't realize. I mean, I, I knew it was a
stressful thing, but like, they were explaining how they can't
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pick the names of anybody that reminds them of an ex-girlfriend
or a family member they didn't get along with or somebody in
the news or a person in high school that they disliked.
And I'm like. God, not only that.
Stressful. Not only that, I don't think you
can pick a name of someone that you know and do have a good
context for unless it's like a great grandmother.
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Because even if they like me andyou right, they are best
friends, they're not going to name their kid Katie and Cameron
because they already know a Katie and Cameron and it would
be weird for them to be calling after their child Katie or
Cameron. Like even though we're positive
people in their life, you so youbasically can't name your kid
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anyone you know at all or have ever known.
That's insane. And.
This is where and this is where the middle name comes into play,
I think because that is the slot.
I I believe that's why it was invented.
I'm just going to go with that. That sounds right.
Sure it was. It was the placeholder for those
family names or the friend namesor the Yeah, all of that.
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But that's every part. Of having a kid is stressful.
Well yeah, and I would be worried about fucking it up.
And on a previous episode we talked about how I have regrets
on our dogs names and how they're not original enough.
And I absolutely think we would name our kid and we would
somehow have regret later. Yeah, I mean, it would be really
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hard to. And I almost guarantee you
anybody that's been through it has hit the stage where they've
they've like finally landed on aname and then like a year and
they're like, Oh, well, we just kind of have to deal with it,
you know? Yeah.
Or you just start with like the nickname phase.
Yeah, you just don't use it. That's easy too.
You pretty much can make it up as you go.
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That's what we do with our pets.OK, real quick, I want to read
through this Pew Research poll that just came out.
Like I said this week, Pew, by the way, a nonpartisan,
nonprofit think tank. So they don't really take sides.
They just present the research and they put out a research
study all about DINKS. And they cover, first of all,
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they say, what is a DINK? In this study?
They define a DINK as married couples in which both spouses
earn an income and at least one spouse is above the age of 30
and under the age 49 for whatever reason.
This is the the measure. This is the the zone.
And I think the reason is because people in their 40s
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sometimes change their mind likeand decide, oh crap, I actually
do want a kid. This is this is the window at
which they studied the focus being on married couples because
married couples are more likely to pool their finances together.
You don't really have a ton of or at least statistically, they
don't want to present a dual income, no kids situation
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officially until you're married.That's that's how they looked at
this research study, but I thinkit would probably still apply
out of that. Sure.
And also I would like to submit to what are they called again,
Pew, I would like to submit to Pew that you can be a dink at
any age. So I don't really get the 30 to
40 or whatever, but OK. I know you can be, but they're
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looking at when it's most commonand and amongst who it's most
common, that's who they're looking at.
That's the reason they have thisthing.
So fine. Some of the takeaways among
married couples or at least one spouse is in the 30s and 40s and
it is a DINK life, 12 percent, 12% are likely to be Dinks, and
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this is up from a study that happened about 10 years ago
where that number was at 8%. So according to the research,
choosing the DINK lifestyle is becoming more and more popular
over the years. Not surprised, I thought it
would be higher than 12%, didn'tyou?
That's. A lot of people though, think,
think about this like of all thepeople that we know in our life,
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friends and family, everybody involved, a lot of them want
kids. We have a few friends that don't
want kids, but most of them do. And I so if you think of it like
one in every eight people don't want kids, that's pretty high, I
guess. I don't know, I think we've
curated our friend group to be. We have totally.
We have totally. We have.
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But like I I think our friend group is 8 out of 10 don't want
kids. 100%, but that is within our friend group.
Those are the, those are the people we've chosen to be around
more than others, you know. So I think what's what's
interesting here, I think the main take away is it was 8%,
it's now 12%. That is like a 30% increase.
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It's going up and I think it's going to continue going up.
And at the same time, couples with kids in a single income has
dropped from 34% to 27%. So like that's also going down,
this is going up, that's going down.
So it's it's trending in that direction.
Some other takeaways. Couples tend to be younger than
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dual income couples with kids. The median age of older.
The median age of DINKS are 36. The median age of dual income
with kids 43. In terms of education, I thought
this one was interesting. 58% ofDINK couples, both spouses have
at least a bachelor's degree. Dual income couples with kids
43%. So that's like what is that 15%
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higher that both of you have a, a four year degree or more if
you don't have children. That's not surprising at all.
At all. At all.
Well, because a lot of times oneperson has to sacrifice
continuing their education to, like, stay home with the kids or
raise the kids or yeah, yeah. I mean, at least yeah, that
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happens a lot. And that's kind of the same
thing. The another stat that came out
of it, employment, 81% of DINK couples, both spouses work full
time, 68% of dual income with kids, couples both work full
time. So it's not surprising like a
lot of times one of the parents will end up not having that full
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time job anymore to take care ofthe kids at home like that.
That one's not surprising at all.
Yeah, there's someone I work with who has, you know, been
open with me and said that her salary is basically exactly what
it would cost to have a nanny. So and she does need a part time
nanny because she can't work full time without a part time
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nanny. So she was like, at some points
it feels like I'm breaking even because while I work, I'm paying
for childcare. So my salary is basically just
paying for childcare so I can work.
And it's just like the chicken or the egg.
And so it would make they their household income would basically
be the same if she didn't work and she just took care of their
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child, which is crazy to think about.
It's crazy easy to think about and I don't mean to say.
I don't mean to say just took care of their child as though
that's not a job because I thinkit is a job and my mom was a
stay at home mom and it was obviously a very hard job.
I'm just saying just as an only job is the child and not having
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a second career. Yeah.
No, no, 100%. I know what you mean.
And I think it's also because you don't want, like, having a
childcare is not an expense you want to skimp out on.
Like you don't want to cut corners with the person taking
care of the life that you created.
You know, you want somebody qualified and safe with a good
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track record, who's above board,all that stuff.
It's not cheap. Speaking of money though, this
is interesting and not at all what I would have expected.
The wealth median wealth is opposite what you would think.
Dinks median wealth Yeah, Dinks median wealth household 214,000
Dual income with kids 361,000. Isn't that interesting?
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Well, I think it's because Dinksare blowing it.
They're blowing their money for a couple of reasons.
Yeah, it's it, You're 100% right.
But it's for it's for that reason and also this.
When you have a kid, you're morelikely to move to an area where
you can buy a house and that house accrues equity like an
investment. So you're quote UN quote
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building wealth, but it's like you're not, it's not fluid cash.
You're building wealth because your value of your home is going
up. Meanwhile, we're going on, you
know, vacations and buying, you know, booters or ATVs or
whatever DINK people do and thenalso saving liquid money or long
term investments or whatever. But I thought that was
interesting because I would have, I would have thought that
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it would be like if the median wealth of a DINK couple or a
DINK couple was like 500,000, then the couple with kids would
be like 100,000. That's kind of what I was going
into it thinking. But this makes sense, I guess
you know? I that's fine.
It's just crazy to think of like, I guess your assets are
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all worth that, but then they'regoing to have to pay for the
kids to like go to college or whatever.
Like we talked about a kid is where it usually costs about
$400,000 to raise to the age of 18.
And that's like minimum. So it's like I I'm happy for
them that they have more wealth because they need it.
They do need it. They need it to cover all those
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little nose minors and, you know, food eaters.
That's what they call kids. Last thing in this is kind of,
you know, large reason we started the podcast.
The data points out that Dinks are not child free by default,
but a specific distinct socio economic segment of people,
meaning that times are changing and there are people that exist
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where they can't have kids but want them so they don't have
kids. But there are more and more
people who choose to not have kids and not do that chapter of
life. So I thought it was interesting.
I know that these things can kind of be boring sometimes, but
I thought it was interesting, yeah.
Agreed. Thanks, Pew.
Thanks for. Doing all that hard work.
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The last thing I want to say, and we have more Reddit stories
to get to next week. But I had to bring this up
because I think it's hilarious. A woman wrote wrote this on the
child free Reddit. It's a great it's a great read.
There's a ton of activity on there.
There's people that like seek advice but also share funny
stories like this. And this is from a 31 year old
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woman who is a substitute teacher, 3rd through 8th
graders. That is a really rough age of
kids to be a sub for. I remember that very well when
we had a substitute teacher. Oh, my God.
That's like today's F and off day, you know?
Yeah. So she writes and says at this
one middle school in a super small town, students are
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obsessed with talking to me about my marital status and if I
have kids. I think it's hilarious.
Yesterday, two kids came up to me, two young girls, and asked
if I had a son. When I told them no, one of the
girls said I knew she looked young.
And the other girl said you lookyoung because you don't have a
son. Oh my God, I would.
I would carry that compliment with me forever.
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I know right? And and that's not to shame
anybody that has kids. It's just funny.
But the the lady finishes the post by saying I'm always open
not wanting about not wanting kids when I'm asked because I
think the students need to be exposed to different life
choices they can make, which I thought was really cool.
And it's not about if you're a teacher.
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It's not about pointing out likehow horrible it is to have a
kid. That's not what anybody's
saying. But it's important to know that
you don't have to choose the same path as everyone.
I think that's super. Cool.
I think especially for little girls, you're always told in
school, or at least I was alwaystold in school.
Like, you grow up and have a baby.
Like, your biological purpose isto be a mom.
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I mean, I also went to, like, elementary school in the
Midwest, so there might have been some of that happening.
But I think it would have been really cool if I had grown up
and had a substitute teacher or a teacher that was like, yeah,
you don't have to have a family or kids when you grow up.
Like I was the first person I know of that decided not to have
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kids of anyone I went to school with of anyone.
Like now I think I know of one other girl that I was friends
with in high school that chose not to have kids.
But other than that every singleone of them is on that path.
Which is fine, but like it wouldhave been cool to not feel like
the only one that thought that. Yeah, I think it just shows and
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it's it's it's really, this bleeds through every aspect of
life. It shows like, hey, if you want
to have kids, your people are out there.
And if you don't want to have kids, your people are out there,
too. I think it's really, really
cool. So, all right, well, that does
it for this week on the dink side.
Anything else, babe? No, No trick or treat.
No Boo bucket. I kind of do want to go get that
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Happy Meal again. I will say at least no one said
smell my feet give me something good to eat like they didn't do
the whole rhyme. I don't want the smell.
My feet, right? Is that the rhyme Trick or
treat? Yeah, that's all my feet.
Give me something good to eat. Like at least they stopped at
trick or treat. God bless.
God bless.
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