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This is your Morning Show with Michael Dell John. Welcome
to the show on this Wednesday, June twelfth. I'm Ryan Gorman,
Dana McKay, and Chris Trankman from our newsroom and we're
live on airon on your iHeartRadio app. Coming up this
how we're gonna play some clips of one of the
Hunter Biden gun trial jurors said CNN after the verdict
(00:58):
came down. Plus we'll get some now of the situation
in the Middle East, including where things stand between Israel
and Hamas from National Security Institute's senior fellow, Lester Munson,
will do that in about a half hour, but right now,
let's dive into today's top stories. Good morning, Chris, Good morning.
Hunter Biden has been convicted of three felony charges related
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to the purchase of a revolver in twenty eighteen, when
the President's son lied on a mandatory gun purchase form
saying he was not using or addicted to drugs. A
jurors found Hunter Biden guilty of lying to a federally
licensed gun dealer, making false claims on the application, and
then illegally having that gun for eleven days. So he
faces twenty five years in prison. That would be the maximum,
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but he's not likely to get anywhere near that amount
as a first time offender. I was not surprised by
this verdict. This was what I thought was going to
be the likeliest outcome. I said it yesterday. I thought
it was more likely than not he was going to
be convicted the second option, I thought maybe hung jury,
and then I didn't think an acquittal was going to happen.
(02:06):
I mean, this was a pretty black and white case
when you get right down to it. Now, the question
of whether or not if this wasn't Hunter Biden, would
these charges have been brought. That's a whole separate issue,
and a lot of legal analysts will tell you that
typically you don't see this. You see these charges brought
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only when the gun that's in question is used in
the commission of another crime. But putting that aside, I
just I was not buying what the defense was selling,
and that you know, in that moment when he was
filling out the form, he technically wasn't lying on it
because he didn't think he was an addict. I mean,
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when you take a look at what was happening before
that day, after that day, the text messages, the testimony,
all of that, it seemed pretty clear.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
Well, one question is how will this affect the presidential race.
President Biden diverted from a trip to see Hunter Biden,
and there has been some talk within the White House.
You know, this could be some emotional strain for the
President because he has said he won't parden his son
and that he would let the justice system play out.
(03:22):
And obviously this was the worst case scenario. Some was
convicted and may even serve time behind.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Bars, right, and it's not over for Hunter Biden. He's
got the tax case coming up in September. This could
impact that if he were convicted in that In terms
of his sentencing, I don't think Biden's going to pardon
him head of the election. I think if he were
to lose the election in the way out the door,
there might be a different story that plays out there.
If you saw the images yesterday of President Biden meeting
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with Hunter Biden on the tarmac, I mean, look, putting
politics aside, putting policy different and and all of that aside.
For President Biden, I mean, he lost his son, Bow,
he lost his wife, he lost his daughter. You've dealing
with Hunter Biden and all of his stuff over the years.
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I mean, it has just not been a very easy
family life for him.
Speaker 5 (04:18):
No, not at all.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
And you could see that. You know, he was emotional
when he saw Hunter Biden again on the tarmac yesterday
after he was convicted. But I look at you know
what we learned during the course of this trial, and
you just you can't blame it all on addiction. The
choices that Hunter Biden made, I mean, and what he
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pulled other people into, you know, the pain that he
put his daughter through, and that actually backfired on the
defense when that testimony came up Hallie Biden he ends
up in a romantic relationship with his dead brother's widow
and then gets her a dick to crack. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (05:01):
I always wonder how that happens.
Speaker 6 (05:02):
I feel like when a young person gets you know,
has an addiction, but a full grown adult who wasn't
an addict before, how does that happen Where you're all
of a sudden with this guy you know he's got issues, Yeah,
and you're like, yeah, let me try crack at Yeah.
I mean maybe here this will make you feel better.
That's probably exactly how it happened.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
But still say, no, that's the bottom line with that stuff.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Yeah. And then and then obviously that's not even touching
on the business deals and all of that, which is
a whole other issue when it comes to Hunter Biden.
So it's just one thing after another with him. But
I wasn't surprised by the verdict. There were a lot
of people who predicted that, you know, he would get
acquitted because the fix was in. It was in Wilmington, Delaware.
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The Bidens have a lot of power there. I guess
I had a little more faith in the jury and
I have a little more faith in the justice system.
I think the institutions are hanging on there, even if
it's by a thread.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
Yeah, it takes away from the whole system, is argument
a bit.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
I feel like it does a little bit.
Speaker 7 (06:02):
Now.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
I did see some people come out and say that this,
the guilty verdict, was all a big distraction too.
Speaker 6 (06:11):
Well, of course, what they think is supposed to happen happen.
Then it's just a distraction away from something else that's
really going.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
On, the conspiracy forever.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Yeah, yeah, well, it sounded like they were playing four
dimensional chess. I'm more of a checkers guy, so I
don't quite see it that way. I mean, if you
take a look at what's going on right now, you
had the Trump hushmanny trial in New York. You've got
the Hunter Biden conviction. Uh, You've got a Democratic Senator
Bob Menendez. He's likely going down for his crimes. That
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trials underway right now. I don't know. I mean, I
think there has been politics involved in all of this,
But the end of the day, at least with this
case right here, I mean, I think the jury got
it right. They did their job, and and that's it.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
Yeah, I mean a jury spoke out about it, yeah,
saying that you know, well they knew who he was,
but they did not think politics was part of the deliberation.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Right, And I just feel it sucks that in this
country we have just such little faith in our fellow
Americans that they can go on a jury and just
do the job, you know. I mean, the politics can
cloud everything that they do, or everything that a judge does,
or a prosecutor does, or anybody. These days, it's just
a real mess in this country. But again, I thought
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this is a pretty black and white case.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
So Hamas is rejected an Israeli proposal for a hostage
and ceasefire deal. This coming from two Israeli officials speaking
to Axios. Hamas, however, he's not confirming the Israeli claim.
President Biden laid out the details of his peace proposal
in a speech a couple of weeks ago. Since then,
the White House has been trying to get international pressure
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on Hamas to accept the deal. Now, Israeli officials didn't
say what aspects of the proposal that Hamas rejected. Meanwhile,
Cotter and Egypt issued a joint statement confirm they have
received a response from Hamas and other Palestinian groups about
the Israeli proposal.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Yeah, what Hamas usually does is they go in there,
they make a couple of tweaks and they say, hey,
we agree to it. It's kind of like if you know,
I'm negotiating my contract here and you know, they set
my salary at one thing, and I make a couple
of tweaks, I bump it up, you know a little
bit like one hundred percent, and I say, yep, you
know what, I agree, let's go with this contract.
Speaker 5 (08:24):
And they're like, wait a, yeah, yeah, it's.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Not gonna fly. Look, I mentioned this yesterday. This isn't
a surprise either that this deal didn't go through. There's
there's just a fundamental difference Israel and I think rightly,
so they're not moving forward if Amas remains in control
of Gaza. Hamas isn't agreeing to any deal where they
don't remain in control. Like that remains this situation, nothing
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has changed there. So I don't know how you get
to a deal when you've got that sitting there. We'll
talk to again National Security Institute senior fellow Lester Mounts,
and he'll share his thought on that. In a little
less than a half hour, about twenty minutes from now.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
The wife of Supreme Court Justice Samuel Alito, said she
wants to get back at people who raised a controversy
after she and the justice were criticized last month for
flying politically affiliated flags at their homes. Quote, you come
after me, I'm going to give it back to you,
said Martha an Alito, and a recording in a private
(09:25):
conversation that took place at the Supreme Court Historical Society's
annual dinner on June third, she says there will be
a way. Doesn't have to be now, but there will
be a way. They know, don't worry about it. So
she's essentially saying that there's going to be some kind
of retaliation, at least according to the remarks she made
to the progressive filmmaker who recorded the conversation recorded the conversations. Yes,
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she secretly recorded the conversations, Lauren Windsor. They were published
on MSNBC and her website on Monday, and she also
recorded Chief Justice John Roberts, who had a a different take.
But the real controversy has come from what Samuel Alito
said and now what his wife is was recorded as
saying about this whole issue, and it further fuels the
(10:11):
fire about politization, you know, at the US Supreme Court
and whether or not some justices like Alito separate some
of his personal views from his judicial.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Well, it's just like I was talking about a second ago,
this idea that you know, we as Americans can't separate
that kind of stuff when it comes to doing a
particular job. I will say this, you can no longer
see the Alito house because there are so many flags
flying out there right now after she said this, she's
got all the flags out, they're all up, they're all flying.
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She's sending messages left and right out there out in
front of the home.
Speaker 4 (10:47):
So yeah, well it started with the upside down American flag.
Then there was the appeal to Heaven flag over at
their Jersey Shore home.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
And are all kinds of flags, just different colored flags,
you know, and symbols on the flags.
Speaker 4 (11:01):
It's just a lot of flags outside. Well, those aren't
the ones that are getting people riled up. So you know,
it's the thing is, though we didn't really hear Supreme
Court justices, you know, talking about their personal views. This
whole thing with the flag, it seems like it was
sort of a preventable controversy. Now Alito claims that he,
you know, his wife put it up.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Yeah, has had a.
Speaker 4 (11:23):
Dispute between a neighbor who has different political views. But
at the same time, isn't he a Supreme Court justice?
He should know that if a flag goes up outside
his house, it's going to be associated with him.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Of course, But Chris, if your wife wanted to hang
a flag outside, are you going to tell her? Now?
Speaker 4 (11:38):
If I'm one of the justices on the Supreme Court?
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Really, really, you'll take that risk of sleep on the
couch for a couple.
Speaker 5 (11:44):
Of months you put your wife?
Speaker 7 (11:49):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (11:49):
I think so. All right, Chris Trankman, thanks so much,
appreciate it. Thank you, Chris Trankman. With today's top stories
still to come this hour, more on Israel and Moss
from National Security Institute Senior fellow Lester Munson, So stick
around for that. I'm Ryan Gorman with Dana McKay in
for Michael del Jorno. And right now let's get to
a trending story, comedian Bill Burr going into enemy territory
(12:10):
and firing away, Yes, during an.
Speaker 6 (12:12):
Event at you see Berkeley, which is a very woke school.
Bill Burr declared he bleeping hates liberals, and then he
went on to make a lot of jokes about woke
white people. He made a joke about white people hanging
Black Lives Matter signs, saying that it would be like
his great grandmother in Germany having a sign that says
knock it off Nazis. He also roasted white people who
(12:34):
refer to themselves as m paths and said such people
only make suffering all about themselves. And he said if
you run into a white person who says they're an mpath,
you should run the other way. Now, this is the
guy who recently told Bill Maher that cancel culture is over.
Speaker 5 (12:51):
Yeah, so I'm wondering if he was trying to test.
Speaker 6 (12:54):
That theory by going in to UC Berkeley, a very
liberal college campus, and making these statements.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
It sounds like it, you know, Bill Maher, he made
a comment on his show the other day which I
thought was pretty brilliant. I hadn't heard it before. Speaking
of that EmPATH joke that Bill Burmaid, he said, young
people these days, a lot of them, they are emotional hypochondriacs.
Speaker 5 (13:19):
Yes, I totally agree with that.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
I yes, I hadn't heard that before, that term used before.
But I'm like, yeah, that's what I'm seeing online on
social media.
Speaker 6 (13:29):
Everybody overblows everything that happens to them. Yeah, they're offended
by everything. They're so upset, distraught over the tiniest things.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Right, they're putting like they're would they consider their mental
health conditions like on their resume?
Speaker 5 (13:42):
Oh yeah, no, they wear it as a badge of honor.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
That's ridiculous, emotional hypochondriacs. I thought that was pretty brilliant.
This is Your Morning Show with Michael deltona Ryan Gorman
here with Dana McKay. Like, right after the Hunter Biden
guilty verdict came in, you had jurors speaking out. One
of them spoke to CNN jur number ten, and here's
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what he had to say about the jury's deliberations.
Speaker 8 (14:09):
Okay, so yesterday when the case was handed over to us,
we went to the deliberating room. We weren't there that
long because it was getting late in the evening, so
we just decided, Okay, the first thing I'm going to
do is let's vote now and see how the count lost.
(14:34):
So we voted and.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
It was six to six.
Speaker 8 (14:37):
Now I don't believe that any of them we're trying
to change their minds, or we weren't trying to change
anybody's mind It's just the fact that I think they
said no because they wanted more information. They wanted to
talk more about the case, so they don't want to
jump the conclusion right away and say yes, he was guilty.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
So essentially, yeah, the jury take that boat, and then
they wanted to go through different things, and it didn't
take long for all of them to come around with
that unanimous guilty verte. I mean, they had a verdict
in less than three hours. Here's what Jury number ten
said he thought about Hunter's lifestyle.
Speaker 8 (15:18):
We didn't discuss a lot about Hunter's lifestyle. And like
I said, it was very it was very sad when
Halle testified. I mean that was for me, that was
h That was a very sad time because I I
did not know that Halley also got addicted to track,
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so I really felt sorry for that.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
And then, uh, this is what he had to say
when he was asked whether any jurors had connections to
the Biden family.
Speaker 8 (15:49):
The family was.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
Not at all.
Speaker 8 (15:52):
We didn't discuss we didn't we didn't use Jill. We
didn't use the president biting like I was telling someone earlier.
President Biden never really even came in to play for
me because his name was only brought up one story
in the trial. That's what it kind of kind of
sunk in a little bit. Oh wow, this is this
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is the the sitting president's who's on trial. Yeah that
that was kind of hard to know. Okay what the
trial's about now, But you kind of put that out
of your mind. And after that, after it was brought
up again, Uh I did.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
I did put it.
Speaker 8 (16:32):
Out of my mind. I never never really had the
two together.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
I think it's so interesting to hear jerrors speak about
their experience, and a lot of times it's not what
we would think they would be thinking, or maybe even
what we would think we would be thinking if we
were on the jury. It sounds like they just kind
of went in there and did their job.
Speaker 6 (16:56):
Right, and they didn't think about the fact like he
said that, oh this is the president's son. Where do
you with here? They kind of kept that out of mind.
This is just a guy who's on trial for this crime.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
Did he do it or didn't he?
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Right? And this is in Wilmington, Delaware and they still
weren't considering that. And also the human reaction to the
Halle Biden testimony where she explained how he got her
addicted to crack, and it probably didn't help the defense
team kind of went after her. I think the defense
definitely made some mistakes throughout the course of the trial.
We'll have more on it throughout the course of the morning.
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Speaker 2 (17:49):
Brian Gorman here with Dana McKay. Now let's go to
the hotline and bring in National Security Institute Senior fellow
Lester Munson. You can listen to him on the fault
Lines podcast Ask, which I highly recommend, and you can
follow him on x at Leicster months in Leicester. Thanks
so much for taking a few minutes to come on
the show. And I want to start with these ceasefire
negotiations between Israel and Hamas. It seems like we've got
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a fundamental problem here. Israel isn't going to accept Hamas
remaining in power in Gaza, which I totally understand and
agree with. And Hamas isn't going to agree to a
deal where they don't continue to remain in power. So
how do you get a deal done?
Speaker 3 (18:33):
Yeah, well, you know, Ryan first of all, agreed to
be with you. Good morning. It's this is an incredibly
difficult situation and that's why there hasn't been a resolution
thus far. The ven diagram of what Hamas wants and
what Israel wants is almost non existent, and so it's
(18:53):
a very difficult negotiation. I think one of the questions,
the big questions is going to be what can what
kind of pressure can be brought on Hamas from other
actors in the region, thinking of Saudi Arabia, EUAE, some
of these other countries that have been supportive of the
Palestinian cause in the past, and they put pressure on Hamas,
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and it's a leadership to accept some sort of ceasefire
arrangement with Israel. That's the big question, and that's frankly,
why you see these Biden administration officials like Tony Blinkin
traveling all around the region to Egypt, to Qatar, to
Saudi to these other places, is to kind of rally
that idea that there can be pressure brought on Hamas.
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It is a very difficult thing to do. There's no doubt.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
If you have countries like Saudi Arabia and cutter and
their concern remains the Palestinian people, and they know that
not getting something done, not getting Hamas out of power,
is going to continue to lead to Israeli operations, then inevitably,
because of the situation on the ground, will lead to
civilian casualties. Why aren't they putting more pressure on Hamas?
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Is it because of their own internal political dynamics in
some cases?
Speaker 3 (20:13):
I think that's that's very true, and realistically, in a
lot of Arab countries there is sympathy for the Palestinian cause.
Broadly speaking, Does that mean folks specifically support the tactics
of Hamas In some cases yes. In some cases, now
Hamas is a terrorist organization, it does terrible things. It
is kind of a deaf cult, and it is willing
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to sacrifice its own people for some sort of political
outcome in a way that a lot of us find shocking.
So these are very difficult questions. One of the reasons
Hamas attacked Israel on October seventh of last year is
because it was very much losing support in the Arab world.
Arab countries were moving towards Israel, they were cutting these
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Abraham Accords under the Trump administration, the Biden administration was
trying to expand back to Saudi Arabia and even other countries.
So the Palestines are actually in a much more difficult
political situation than people appreciate at the moment because they
really don't have a lot of support from these other countries.
That's one of the reasons why pressure from them is
not so significant, because some aster is kind of operating
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on its own.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
Now, what about Hesbala to the north. One of the
lines of thinking that I've been reading about lately and
hearing some analysts talk about, is that Israel, in a
sense would like to see some kind of a temporary
cease fire for now in order to take a little
bit of the focus away from what they're having to
(21:39):
do in Gaza and shift it to the north because
the situation with Hesbalal though doesn't necessarily get all the headlines,
it has been deteriorating. What have you noticed about that
part of the conflict and what are you watching for
moving forward?
Speaker 3 (21:55):
Yeah, great question, And notably Hasbala has launched another kind
of round of one hundred and fifty or one hundred
and eighty eight rocket attacks on Israel just in the
last few hours. Hasbala is a is a Shia organization
in Lebanon. Hamas is a Sunni organist largely Sunni organization
in Gaza. Both are supported by Iran. So the thing
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to remember here is a lot of the events on
the ground are being orchestrated by a non Arab country,
by Iran, which is a Persian country that is funding
these groups that are antagonizing and attacking Israel. So the
one of the questions that you face pretty quickly with
the Hesbala issue is who's the real actor here, who
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is calling the shots? How do you actually affect the
root causes of the conflict in the region. It gets
back to the Iranian regime at the end of the day,
they are exporting terror and instability around the region, and
so the HESBLA question immediately goes to the Iran question.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
We're joined by National Security Institute Senior Fello Lester Munson,
who again you can listen to on the fault Lines
podcast and you can find on x at Lester Munson
for more analysis. I want to ask you about another
story that's developing this morning. The US Navy has deployed
warships and aircraft to track a Russian naval flotilla. This
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comes after I guess these Russian vessels they were less
than thirty miles off of South Florida's coast yesterday. What's
going on there and what should our concern level be?
Speaker 3 (23:32):
Well, I think it is a real concern. Russian warships
are operating in international waters in our backyard in the Caribbean.
They're collaborating with Cuba, which of course remains an antagonist
of the United States. It's a very healthy reminder that
the two hundred year old Monroe doctrine, two hundred plus
years old Monroe doctrine should still be something we're concerned about.
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We have adversaries in our own region, whether it's Cuba, Venezuela.
Some of these other countries and outside actors like Russia
are using them to undermine out the stability of our
own neighborhood. We've got other issues in the Western Hemisphere,
instability in Haiti. We can't as we're focused on the
Middle East and Taiwan, we can't remember that the place
(24:19):
we really need security is in our own backyard in
the Western Hemisphere.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
And Russia doing this while they're still fighting that war
in Ukraine. Does that say anything about what's happening over
there and what is the latest on that conflict?
Speaker 3 (24:34):
Yeah, ran great question. As we're as more US aid
is flowing and other Western aid is flowing to the
Ukrainians to take the fight to the Russians and hit
their supply lines occasionally inside Russia, Russia's trying to show
that it can project power elsewhere. Frankly, this this is
kind of weak tea in that scheme of things. Sailing
(24:55):
a ship into the Caribbean is at the end of
the day, not a major achieved. It is something we
need to take a note of. But the thing to
remember is Russia is really exposed in Ukraine. Their war
machine has been ground to a halt. There's a real
static in the conflict there. The Ukrainians are looking for
a way to start taking back their territory. They've had
(25:16):
some decent achievements in the last few weeks now that
they've got more assistance from the United States. But that's
the thing Russia is really concerned about, is it's unsoft
underbelly in eastern Ukraine and in Crimea. That's what they're
actually worried about.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
The end of the day, we're joined by senior fellow
at the National Security Institute, Lester Months, and one last
thing I want to ask you about another story that
we're following this morning. Eight to Jakistan nationals with ties
to ISIS busted by US Immigration and Customs Enforcement. This was,
I guess a joint operation with the FBI in three
(25:53):
different cities. What do you make of that. We know
the southern border is a big problem. We've got a
lot of people coming here to the US. We don't
know who a lot of them are. They're entering the country,
and it seems like this part of the world's to Jakistan, Uzbekistan,
those countries, they're ones that border patrol is keeping a
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closer eye on how come.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
Well ISIS you will call the fight against ISIS from
about ten years ago, back during the Obama administration, they
took territory into Rock and Syria. They still exist. We've
kind of pushed them back into the dark corners of
the world, but ISIS is still out there, this radical
theological terrorist group. They are still active. They're active in
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a lot of different countries, mostly Muslim countries. They're trying
to infiltrate the United States. A couple of thoughts, Yes,
we absolutely need to secure the border. It is a
national security issue. I think the Biden administration is taking
some very tentative steps in that direction because it's an election.
But at least that's a good thing they've they've been,
you know, a wall on this issue for three and
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a half years. The other thing to remember, our law
enforcement officers are terrific. Our law enforcement agencies are doing
good work. Every day. If you see one, say thank
you to them. They continue to protect us under very
difficult circumstances.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
Lester Monthson, National Security Institute Senior Fellow. You can listen
to them on the fault Lines podcast, which you can
find on your iHeartRadio app, and you can follow him
on x at Lester months and Lester, it's always a
pleasure talking to you. Thanks so much for coming back on.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
Thanks Ray, appreciate it all right.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
Still to come this hour. President Biden had a rough
time in a recent Juneteenth event. We've got some audio
that you have to hear, so stick around for that.
I'm Ryan Gorman with Dana McKay in for Michael del
Jorno this weekend. Right now, let's get to a trending story.
More bad news for King Charles, who just can't seem
to catch a break. No.
Speaker 6 (27:53):
Animal rights activists were caught on video vandalizing the new
portrait of King Charles at a London art gallery. This
is that portrait that was released a couple of weeks
ago that's basically just all red with King Charles and
just all the red all over him.
Speaker 5 (28:05):
It's a horrible portrait.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
Ye, it looked like it was vandalized before it was
actually vandalized.
Speaker 5 (28:09):
That was my thought too.
Speaker 6 (28:11):
But so these animal rights activists pasted a picture of
Wallace from Wallace and Grommet over King Charles's face, and
then they added a speech bubble that said no cheese
grommet look at all this cruelty on RSPCA farms and
a group called Animal Rising took responsibility, saying it's a
comic redecoration. It's not vandalism, it's a comic redecoration. And
(28:35):
they said they did it to raise awareness about the
violation of animal rights rules at farms approved by the
Royal Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals. So
that's like the you know, the government agency. Yeah, and
they're saying that they're not following their own rules.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
I mean, they could have just said this, this image
looks like a King Charles coming out of a slaughterhouse.
Speaker 4 (28:56):
That is what it looks.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
Raise awareness that way. Yeah, that was really.
Speaker 6 (29:01):
Yeah, it was really awful. It actually looked better with
the vandalism on it. So the video of them doing this,
because it is kind of funny to watch them just
roll on up there and do it really quickly.
Speaker 5 (29:10):
It's on our Facebook page at Ryan Gorman Show.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
But King Charles, he can never catch a break, the guy,
he's he just nothing ever seems to go right for him.
Speaker 6 (29:20):
No, I mean he finally ascends to the thrown in
within what like a year, he ends up with cancer.
Speaker 5 (29:24):
This is horrible.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
And then he gets ill and there are headlines about that,
and then you have Kate Middleton's issues which totally knock
him out of the headlines on the front page.
Speaker 6 (29:33):
They can get sympathy without being overshadowed.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
Yeah, nobody seems to love the guy. King Charles, I
have a rough go of it. I'm letting McGill McGill's
world famous block store and my morning show is your
Morning Show with Michael del Jordo, Brian Gorman here with
Dana McKay. Yesterday, we were talking about this moment that
took place at a Juneteenth event where everybody is dancing.
(29:58):
Vice President Kamala Harris is getting down, second gentleman is
doing a little dance, and then you've got President Biden
standing there frozen.
Speaker 5 (30:08):
He's just staring like off into space.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
Youah, very reminiscent of when Mitch McConnell froze up a
couple of times in front of the cameras. I don't
know if that's exactly what was happening to Biden, like
the same medical condition.
Speaker 6 (30:21):
And I feel like Biden has done that before, though
he does that often where you just see him and
he's just standing there like a deer in headlights, very
very still, and just looked even worse when there's all
these people next to him dancing.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
Yeah, and you had the R and C putting out
on social media? Is anybody home?
Speaker 5 (30:38):
Right?
Speaker 2 (30:39):
As the caption? And look, if I were in that situation,
I would just be standing there because I have no moves.
Speaker 4 (30:47):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (30:47):
But when you're in that situation and everyone around you
is dancing, you kind of got to make an effort
at least a little bit.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
Yeah, or at least don't look like a deer in headlights.
So if you didn't see that video, we have it
for you our Facebook page and go Ryan Gorman Show
to find it. But then also during this event, he
delivered a speech and there was one line in particular
that we polled because I have no idea what the
hell was saying here, Take a listen to this.
Speaker 7 (31:14):
She knows, she knows, so long as nine, our freedom
could never be secured.
Speaker 5 (31:20):
What she knows?
Speaker 2 (31:25):
He didn't understand that.
Speaker 5 (31:27):
We could try to decipher it with Yeah, she knows, she.
Speaker 7 (31:29):
Knew, she she knows. So long as it was nine,
our freedom could never be secured.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
Yeah, freedom can never be secured. He didn't understand that anything.
That part.
Speaker 5 (31:40):
I didn't understand what he said before.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
Yeah, she knew she was, and that reminded me. We
had this clip from a couple of weeks ago where
he was talking about a law that he got passed,
and it's kind of the same thing.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
Let me close this.
Speaker 7 (31:57):
After I signed the pack and pack At Black Act
into law.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
Yeah remember that? Yeah, Yeah, that's.
Speaker 5 (32:05):
Huge, which was huge. It did a lot for.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
Everyone, huge bipartisan accomplishment, the pack of LA and A
that that act, it was big.
Speaker 7 (32:13):
This after I signed the pack and pack At Act into.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
Law, it's a it's a really important piece of legislation, generational.
Uh So, yeah, we have these moments with President Biden
and you just wonder that the key here is is
he going to do that on the debate stage, Because
if something like this happens on the debate stage, you
know she knows.
Speaker 7 (32:34):
So long as nine are.
Speaker 5 (32:39):
You can just be like, what the hell did you
just say?
Speaker 4 (32:42):
Right?
Speaker 2 (32:43):
Uh? If Trump hears it, because it'll probably be just
talking over Biden as the debate's going on. You also
had this moment during that same speech where President Biden
said this another thing, I'm not one hundred percent sure.
Speaker 7 (32:55):
About black soldiers or a link distinguish lying the patriots
in slave dan free risk their lives in every war
since the founding, since the founding of our ideals, and
we don't know fully what American soil is, quality and freedom.
Speaker 5 (33:12):
Yes, we don't know fully what American soil is.
Speaker 8 (33:14):
Yea.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
The line is since the founding of our ideals, that
we don't know fully what American soil is. I'm not
one hundred percent sure what he was trying to get
out of.
Speaker 7 (33:23):
Box soldiers or a link and distinguished line of patriots
in slave dan free risk their lives in every war
since the founding, says, the founding of our ideals, and
we don't know fully what American soil is.
Speaker 6 (33:38):
Right, It's just like she knew, we don't know fully
what American soil is.
Speaker 5 (33:44):
Like I can make out the I just don't know
what the hell they mean.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
Yeah, the context is a little off there, but at
least it wasn't as bad as this gaff from a
couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 7 (33:55):
The direction storm.
Speaker 5 (34:00):
He's not the only one who's done that.
Speaker 6 (34:02):
No Tapper did it on cn That one's happening to
everyone I know.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
He's gonna want to say something about January sixth on
the debate stage, but he's got to be really careful.
Speaker 7 (34:13):
Direction store capitol.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
Hi Patres just you know, uh, we want to keep
that PG rated that debate. There was something that former
President Donald Trump said recently too that I wasn't undred
century about. Listen to this.
Speaker 9 (34:26):
They go and stop people from robbing stores. You go
to some of these departments, who will five hundred people
walk into the stores, They walk out with air conditions,
They stripped the whole store, The company goes out of business,
the store is vacant for twenty five years, the whole
city becomes a slum.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
Now, now, some of what he said there is true
and accurate. I have not seen images of people walking
out with air conditioning units.
Speaker 5 (34:51):
No, I haven't seen that either. In fact a little
bit large.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
Yeah. In fact, if somebody were to walk into a
store and literally try to walk right out with an
air conditioning I'd almost let them have it, because that's
kind of impressive.
Speaker 5 (35:02):
It really is.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
You know what you're gonna steal that, Go ahead and
take it. But the next thing you know, he's gonna
be on stage chain they're going into home depot and
they're just walking out with toilets and then showing up
in San Francisco. Then I'd be using them. They're just
crapping on the sidewalk and it's unbelievable what's happening over there.
So a little bit from President Biden and former President
Donald Trump. We're all in this together. This is your
(35:26):
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Speaker 3 (00:31):
A new way of talk, a new way of understanding
because we're in this together.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
This is your Morning Show with Michael Dell John. Welcome
to the show on this Wednesday, June twelfth. I'm Ryan Gorman,
Dana McKay, and Chris Trankman from our newsroom and we're
live on airon on your iHeartRadio app. Coming up this
how we're gonna play some clips of one of the
Hunter Biden gun trial jurors said CNN after the verdict
(00:58):
came down. Plus we'll get some now of the situation
in the Middle East, including where things stand between Israel
and Hamas from National Security Institute's senior fellow, Lester Munson,
will do that in about a half hour, but right now,
let's dive into today's top stories. Good morning, Chris, Good morning.
Hunter Biden has been convicted of three felony charges related
(01:19):
to the purchase of a revolver in twenty eighteen, when
the President's son lied on a mandatory gun purchase form
saying he was not using or addicted to drugs. A
jurors found Hunter Biden guilty of lying to a federally
licensed gun dealer, making false claims on the application, and
then illegally having that gun for eleven days. So he
faces twenty five years in prison. That would be the maximum,
(01:43):
but he's not likely to get anywhere near that amount
as a first time offender. I was not surprised by
this verdict. This was what I thought was going to
be the likeliest outcome. I said it yesterday. I thought
it was more likely than not he was going to
be convicted the second option, I thought maybe hung jury,
and then I didn't think an acquittal was going to happen.
(02:06):
I mean, this was a pretty black and white case
when you get right down to it. Now, the question
of whether or not if this wasn't Hunter Biden, would
these charges have been brought. That's a whole separate issue,
and a lot of legal analysts will tell you that
typically you don't see this. You see these charges brought
(02:27):
only when the gun that's in question is used in
the commission of another crime. But putting that aside, I
just I was not buying what the defense was selling,
and that you know, in that moment when he was
filling out the form, he technically wasn't lying on it
because he didn't think he was an addict. I mean,
(02:49):
when you take a look at what was happening before
that day, after that day, the text messages, the testimony,
all of that, it seemed pretty clear.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
Well, one question is how will this affect the presidential race.
President Biden diverted from a trip to see Hunter Biden,
and there has been some talk within the White House.
You know, this could be some emotional strain for the
President because he has said he won't parden his son
and that he would let the justice system play out.
(03:22):
And obviously this was the worst case scenario. Some was
convicted and may even serve time behind.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Bars, right, and it's not over for Hunter Biden. He's
got the tax case coming up in September. This could
impact that if he were convicted in that In terms
of his sentencing, I don't think Biden's going to pardon
him head of the election. I think if he were
to lose the election in the way out the door,
there might be a different story that plays out there.
If you saw the images yesterday of President Biden meeting
(03:52):
with Hunter Biden on the tarmac, I mean, look, putting
politics aside, putting policy different and and all of that aside.
For President Biden, I mean, he lost his son, Bow,
he lost his wife, he lost his daughter. You've dealing
with Hunter Biden and all of his stuff over the years.
(04:13):
I mean, it has just not been a very easy
family life for him.
Speaker 5 (04:18):
No, not at all.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
And you could see that. You know, he was emotional
when he saw Hunter Biden again on the tarmac yesterday
after he was convicted. But I look at you know
what we learned during the course of this trial, and
you just you can't blame it all on addiction. The
choices that Hunter Biden made, I mean, and what he
(04:43):
pulled other people into, you know, the pain that he
put his daughter through, and that actually backfired on the
defense when that testimony came up Hallie Biden he ends
up in a romantic relationship with his dead brother's widow
and then gets her a dick to crack. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (05:01):
I always wonder how that happens.
Speaker 6 (05:02):
I feel like when a young person gets you know,
has an addiction, but a full grown adult who wasn't
an addict before, how does that happen Where you're all
of a sudden with this guy you know he's got issues, Yeah,
and you're like, yeah, let me try crack at Yeah.
I mean maybe here this will make you feel better.
That's probably exactly how it happened.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
But still say, no, that's the bottom line with that stuff.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Yeah. And then and then obviously that's not even touching
on the business deals and all of that, which is
a whole other issue when it comes to Hunter Biden.
So it's just one thing after another with him. But
I wasn't surprised by the verdict. There were a lot
of people who predicted that, you know, he would get
acquitted because the fix was in. It was in Wilmington, Delaware.
(05:46):
The Bidens have a lot of power there. I guess
I had a little more faith in the jury and
I have a little more faith in the justice system.
I think the institutions are hanging on there, even if
it's by a thread.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
Yeah, it takes away from the whole system, is argument
a bit.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
I feel like it does a little bit.
Speaker 7 (06:02):
Now.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
I did see some people come out and say that this,
the guilty verdict, was all a big distraction too.
Speaker 6 (06:11):
Well, of course, what they think is supposed to happen happen.
Then it's just a distraction away from something else that's
really going.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
On, the conspiracy forever.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Yeah, yeah, well, it sounded like they were playing four
dimensional chess. I'm more of a checkers guy, so I
don't quite see it that way. I mean, if you
take a look at what's going on right now, you
had the Trump hushmanny trial in New York. You've got
the Hunter Biden conviction. Uh, You've got a Democratic Senator
Bob Menendez. He's likely going down for his crimes. That
(06:42):
trials underway right now. I don't know. I mean, I
think there has been politics involved in all of this,
But the end of the day, at least with this
case right here, I mean, I think the jury got
it right. They did their job, and and that's it.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
Yeah, I mean a jury spoke out about it, yeah,
saying that you know, well they knew who he was,
but they did not think politics was part of the deliberation.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Right, And I just feel it sucks that in this
country we have just such little faith in our fellow
Americans that they can go on a jury and just
do the job, you know. I mean, the politics can
cloud everything that they do, or everything that a judge does,
or a prosecutor does, or anybody. These days, it's just
a real mess in this country. But again, I thought
(07:25):
this is a pretty black and white case.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
So Hamas is rejected an Israeli proposal for a hostage
and ceasefire deal. This coming from two Israeli officials speaking
to Axios. Hamas, however, he's not confirming the Israeli claim.
President Biden laid out the details of his peace proposal
in a speech a couple of weeks ago. Since then,
the White House has been trying to get international pressure
(07:48):
on Hamas to accept the deal. Now, Israeli officials didn't
say what aspects of the proposal that Hamas rejected. Meanwhile,
Cotter and Egypt issued a joint statement confirm they have
received a response from Hamas and other Palestinian groups about
the Israeli proposal.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Yeah, what Hamas usually does is they go in there,
they make a couple of tweaks and they say, hey,
we agree to it. It's kind of like if you know,
I'm negotiating my contract here and you know, they set
my salary at one thing, and I make a couple
of tweaks, I bump it up, you know a little
bit like one hundred percent, and I say, yep, you
know what, I agree, let's go with this contract.
Speaker 5 (08:24):
And they're like, wait a, yeah, yeah, it's.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Not gonna fly. Look, I mentioned this yesterday. This isn't
a surprise either that this deal didn't go through. There's
there's just a fundamental difference Israel and I think rightly,
so they're not moving forward if Amas remains in control
of Gaza. Hamas isn't agreeing to any deal where they
don't remain in control. Like that remains this situation, nothing
(08:50):
has changed there. So I don't know how you get
to a deal when you've got that sitting there. We'll
talk to again National Security Institute senior fellow Lester Mounts,
and he'll share his thought on that. In a little
less than a half hour, about twenty minutes from now.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
The wife of Supreme Court Justice Samuel Alito, said she
wants to get back at people who raised a controversy
after she and the justice were criticized last month for
flying politically affiliated flags at their homes. Quote, you come
after me, I'm going to give it back to you,
said Martha an Alito, and a recording in a private
(09:25):
conversation that took place at the Supreme Court Historical Society's
annual dinner on June third, she says there will be
a way. Doesn't have to be now, but there will
be a way. They know, don't worry about it. So
she's essentially saying that there's going to be some kind
of retaliation, at least according to the remarks she made
to the progressive filmmaker who recorded the conversation recorded the conversations. Yes,
(09:48):
she secretly recorded the conversations, Lauren Windsor. They were published
on MSNBC and her website on Monday, and she also
recorded Chief Justice John Roberts, who had a a different take.
But the real controversy has come from what Samuel Alito
said and now what his wife is was recorded as
saying about this whole issue, and it further fuels the
(10:11):
fire about politization, you know, at the US Supreme Court
and whether or not some justices like Alito separate some
of his personal views from his judicial.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Well, it's just like I was talking about a second ago,
this idea that you know, we as Americans can't separate
that kind of stuff when it comes to doing a
particular job. I will say this, you can no longer
see the Alito house because there are so many flags
flying out there right now after she said this, she's
got all the flags out, they're all up, they're all flying.
(10:43):
She's sending messages left and right out there out in
front of the home.
Speaker 4 (10:47):
So yeah, well it started with the upside down American flag.
Then there was the appeal to Heaven flag over at
their Jersey Shore home.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
And are all kinds of flags, just different colored flags,
you know, and symbols on the flags.
Speaker 4 (11:01):
It's just a lot of flags outside. Well, those aren't
the ones that are getting people riled up. So you know,
it's the thing is, though we didn't really hear Supreme
Court justices, you know, talking about their personal views. This
whole thing with the flag, it seems like it was
sort of a preventable controversy. Now Alito claims that he,
you know, his wife put it up.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Yeah, has had a.
Speaker 4 (11:23):
Dispute between a neighbor who has different political views. But
at the same time, isn't he a Supreme Court justice?
He should know that if a flag goes up outside
his house, it's going to be associated with him.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Of course, But Chris, if your wife wanted to hang
a flag outside, are you going to tell her? Now?
Speaker 4 (11:38):
If I'm one of the justices on the Supreme Court?
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Really, really, you'll take that risk of sleep on the
couch for a couple.
Speaker 5 (11:44):
Of months you put your wife?
Speaker 7 (11:49):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (11:49):
I think so. All right, Chris Trankman, thanks so much,
appreciate it. Thank you, Chris Trankman. With today's top stories
still to come this hour, more on Israel and Moss
from National Security Institute Senior fellow Lester Munson, So stick
around for that. I'm Ryan Gorman with Dana McKay in
for Michael del Jorno. And right now let's get to
a trending story, comedian Bill Burr going into enemy territory
(12:10):
and firing away, Yes, during an.
Speaker 6 (12:12):
Event at you see Berkeley, which is a very woke school.
Bill Burr declared he bleeping hates liberals, and then he
went on to make a lot of jokes about woke
white people. He made a joke about white people hanging
Black Lives Matter signs, saying that it would be like
his great grandmother in Germany having a sign that says
knock it off Nazis. He also roasted white people who
(12:34):
refer to themselves as m paths and said such people
only make suffering all about themselves. And he said if
you run into a white person who says they're an mpath,
you should run the other way. Now, this is the
guy who recently told Bill Maher that cancel culture is over.
Speaker 5 (12:51):
Yeah, so I'm wondering if he was trying to test.
Speaker 6 (12:54):
That theory by going in to UC Berkeley, a very
liberal college campus, and making these statements.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
It sounds like it, you know, Bill Maher, he made
a comment on his show the other day which I
thought was pretty brilliant. I hadn't heard it before. Speaking
of that EmPATH joke that Bill Burmaid, he said, young
people these days, a lot of them, they are emotional hypochondriacs.
Speaker 5 (13:19):
Yes, I totally agree with that.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
I yes, I hadn't heard that before, that term used before.
But I'm like, yeah, that's what I'm seeing online on
social media.
Speaker 6 (13:29):
Everybody overblows everything that happens to them. Yeah, they're offended
by everything. They're so upset, distraught over the tiniest things.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Right, they're putting like they're would they consider their mental
health conditions like on their resume?
Speaker 5 (13:42):
Oh yeah, no, they wear it as a badge of honor.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
That's ridiculous, emotional hypochondriacs. I thought that was pretty brilliant.
This is Your Morning Show with Michael deltona Ryan Gorman
here with Dana McKay. Like, right after the Hunter Biden
guilty verdict came in, you had jurors speaking out. One
of them spoke to CNN jur number ten, and here's
(14:05):
what he had to say about the jury's deliberations.
Speaker 8 (14:09):
Okay, so yesterday when the case was handed over to us,
we went to the deliberating room. We weren't there that
long because it was getting late in the evening, so
we just decided, Okay, the first thing I'm going to
do is let's vote now and see how the count lost.
(14:34):
So we voted and.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
It was six to six.
Speaker 8 (14:37):
Now I don't believe that any of them we're trying
to change their minds, or we weren't trying to change
anybody's mind It's just the fact that I think they
said no because they wanted more information. They wanted to
talk more about the case, so they don't want to
jump the conclusion right away and say yes, he was guilty.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
So essentially, yeah, the jury take that boat, and then
they wanted to go through different things, and it didn't
take long for all of them to come around with
that unanimous guilty verte. I mean, they had a verdict
in less than three hours. Here's what Jury number ten
said he thought about Hunter's lifestyle.
Speaker 8 (15:18):
We didn't discuss a lot about Hunter's lifestyle. And like
I said, it was very it was very sad when
Halle testified. I mean that was for me, that was
h That was a very sad time because I I
did not know that Halley also got addicted to track,
(15:39):
so I really felt sorry for that.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
And then, uh, this is what he had to say
when he was asked whether any jurors had connections to
the Biden family.
Speaker 8 (15:49):
The family was.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
Not at all.
Speaker 8 (15:52):
We didn't discuss we didn't we didn't use Jill. We
didn't use the president biting like I was telling someone earlier.
President Biden never really even came in to play for
me because his name was only brought up one story
in the trial. That's what it kind of kind of
sunk in a little bit. Oh wow, this is this
(16:14):
is the the sitting president's who's on trial. Yeah that
that was kind of hard to know. Okay what the
trial's about now, But you kind of put that out
of your mind. And after that, after it was brought
up again, Uh I did.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
I did put it.
Speaker 8 (16:32):
Out of my mind. I never never really had the
two together.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
I think it's so interesting to hear jerrors speak about
their experience, and a lot of times it's not what
we would think they would be thinking, or maybe even
what we would think we would be thinking if we
were on the jury. It sounds like they just kind
of went in there and did their job.
Speaker 6 (16:56):
Right, and they didn't think about the fact like he
said that, oh this is the president's son. Where do
you with here? They kind of kept that out of mind.
This is just a guy who's on trial for this crime.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
Did he do it or didn't he?
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Right? And this is in Wilmington, Delaware and they still
weren't considering that. And also the human reaction to the
Halle Biden testimony where she explained how he got her
addicted to crack, and it probably didn't help the defense
team kind of went after her. I think the defense
definitely made some mistakes throughout the course of the trial.
We'll have more on it throughout the course of the morning.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
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But as we always say, better late than never. Thanks
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Speaker 2 (17:49):
Brian Gorman here with Dana McKay. Now let's go to
the hotline and bring in National Security Institute Senior fellow
Lester Munson. You can listen to him on the fault
Lines podcast Ask, which I highly recommend, and you can
follow him on x at Leicster months in Leicester. Thanks
so much for taking a few minutes to come on
the show. And I want to start with these ceasefire
negotiations between Israel and Hamas. It seems like we've got
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a fundamental problem here. Israel isn't going to accept Hamas
remaining in power in Gaza, which I totally understand and
agree with. And Hamas isn't going to agree to a
deal where they don't continue to remain in power. So
how do you get a deal done?
Speaker 3 (18:33):
Yeah, well, you know, Ryan first of all, agreed to
be with you. Good morning. It's this is an incredibly
difficult situation and that's why there hasn't been a resolution
thus far. The ven diagram of what Hamas wants and
what Israel wants is almost non existent, and so it's
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a very difficult negotiation. I think one of the questions,
the big questions is going to be what can what
kind of pressure can be brought on Hamas from other
actors in the region, thinking of Saudi Arabia, EUAE, some
of these other countries that have been supportive of the
Palestinian cause in the past, and they put pressure on Hamas,
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and it's a leadership to accept some sort of ceasefire
arrangement with Israel. That's the big question, and that's frankly,
why you see these Biden administration officials like Tony Blinkin
traveling all around the region to Egypt, to Qatar, to
Saudi to these other places, is to kind of rally
that idea that there can be pressure brought on Hamas.
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It is a very difficult thing to do. There's no doubt.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
If you have countries like Saudi Arabia and cutter and
their concern remains the Palestinian people, and they know that
not getting something done, not getting Hamas out of power,
is going to continue to lead to Israeli operations, then inevitably,
because of the situation on the ground, will lead to
civilian casualties. Why aren't they putting more pressure on Hamas?
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Is it because of their own internal political dynamics in
some cases?
Speaker 3 (20:13):
I think that's that's very true, and realistically, in a
lot of Arab countries there is sympathy for the Palestinian cause.
Broadly speaking, Does that mean folks specifically support the tactics
of Hamas In some cases yes. In some cases, now
Hamas is a terrorist organization, it does terrible things. It
is kind of a deaf cult, and it is willing
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to sacrifice its own people for some sort of political
outcome in a way that a lot of us find shocking.
So these are very difficult questions. One of the reasons
Hamas attacked Israel on October seventh of last year is
because it was very much losing support in the Arab world.
Arab countries were moving towards Israel, they were cutting these
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Abraham Accords under the Trump administration, the Biden administration was
trying to expand back to Saudi Arabia and even other countries.
So the Palestines are actually in a much more difficult
political situation than people appreciate at the moment because they
really don't have a lot of support from these other countries.
That's one of the reasons why pressure from them is
not so significant, because some aster is kind of operating
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on its own.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
Now, what about Hesbala to the north. One of the
lines of thinking that I've been reading about lately and
hearing some analysts talk about, is that Israel, in a
sense would like to see some kind of a temporary
cease fire for now in order to take a little
bit of the focus away from what they're having to
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do in Gaza and shift it to the north because
the situation with Hesbalal though doesn't necessarily get all the headlines,
it has been deteriorating. What have you noticed about that
part of the conflict and what are you watching for
moving forward?
Speaker 3 (21:55):
Yeah, great question, And notably Hasbala has launched another kind
of round of one hundred and fifty or one hundred
and eighty eight rocket attacks on Israel just in the
last few hours. Hasbala is a is a Shia organization
in Lebanon. Hamas is a Sunni organist largely Sunni organization
in Gaza. Both are supported by Iran. So the thing
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to remember here is a lot of the events on
the ground are being orchestrated by a non Arab country,
by Iran, which is a Persian country that is funding
these groups that are antagonizing and attacking Israel. So the
one of the questions that you face pretty quickly with
the Hesbala issue is who's the real actor here, who
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is calling the shots? How do you actually affect the
root causes of the conflict in the region. It gets
back to the Iranian regime at the end of the day,
they are exporting terror and instability around the region, and
so the HESBLA question immediately goes to the Iran question.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
We're joined by National Security Institute Senior Fello Lester Munson,
who again you can listen to on the fault Lines
podcast and you can find on x at Lester Munson
for more analysis. I want to ask you about another
story that's developing this morning. The US Navy has deployed
warships and aircraft to track a Russian naval flotilla. This
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comes after I guess these Russian vessels they were less
than thirty miles off of South Florida's coast yesterday. What's
going on there and what should our concern level be?
Speaker 3 (23:32):
Well, I think it is a real concern. Russian warships
are operating in international waters in our backyard in the Caribbean.
They're collaborating with Cuba, which of course remains an antagonist
of the United States. It's a very healthy reminder that
the two hundred year old Monroe doctrine, two hundred plus
years old Monroe doctrine should still be something we're concerned about.
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We have adversaries in our own region, whether it's Cuba, Venezuela.
Some of these other countries and outside actors like Russia
are using them to undermine out the stability of our
own neighborhood. We've got other issues in the Western Hemisphere,
instability in Haiti. We can't as we're focused on the
Middle East and Taiwan, we can't remember that the place
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we really need security is in our own backyard in
the Western Hemisphere.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
And Russia doing this while they're still fighting that war
in Ukraine. Does that say anything about what's happening over
there and what is the latest on that conflict?
Speaker 3 (24:34):
Yeah, ran great question. As we're as more US aid
is flowing and other Western aid is flowing to the
Ukrainians to take the fight to the Russians and hit
their supply lines occasionally inside Russia, Russia's trying to show
that it can project power elsewhere. Frankly, this this is
kind of weak tea in that scheme of things. Sailing
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a ship into the Caribbean is at the end of
the day, not a major achieved. It is something we
need to take a note of. But the thing to
remember is Russia is really exposed in Ukraine. Their war
machine has been ground to a halt. There's a real
static in the conflict there. The Ukrainians are looking for
a way to start taking back their territory. They've had
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some decent achievements in the last few weeks now that
they've got more assistance from the United States. But that's
the thing Russia is really concerned about, is it's unsoft
underbelly in eastern Ukraine and in Crimea. That's what they're
actually worried about.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
The end of the day, we're joined by senior fellow
at the National Security Institute, Lester Months, and one last
thing I want to ask you about another story that
we're following this morning. Eight to Jakistan nationals with ties
to ISIS busted by US Immigration and Customs Enforcement. This was,
I guess a joint operation with the FBI in three
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different cities. What do you make of that. We know
the southern border is a big problem. We've got a
lot of people coming here to the US. We don't
know who a lot of them are. They're entering the country,
and it seems like this part of the world's to Jakistan, Uzbekistan,
those countries, they're ones that border patrol is keeping a
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closer eye on how come.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
Well ISIS you will call the fight against ISIS from
about ten years ago, back during the Obama administration, they
took territory into Rock and Syria. They still exist. We've
kind of pushed them back into the dark corners of
the world, but ISIS is still out there, this radical
theological terrorist group. They are still active. They're active in
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a lot of different countries, mostly Muslim countries. They're trying
to infiltrate the United States. A couple of thoughts, Yes,
we absolutely need to secure the border. It is a
national security issue. I think the Biden administration is taking
some very tentative steps in that direction because it's an election.
But at least that's a good thing they've they've been,
you know, a wall on this issue for three and
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a half years. The other thing to remember, our law
enforcement officers are terrific. Our law enforcement agencies are doing
good work. Every day. If you see one, say thank
you to them. They continue to protect us under very
difficult circumstances.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
Lester Monthson, National Security Institute Senior Fellow. You can listen
to them on the fault Lines podcast, which you can
find on your iHeartRadio app, and you can follow him
on x at Lester months and Lester, it's always a
pleasure talking to you. Thanks so much for coming back on.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
Thanks Ray, appreciate it all right.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
Still to come this hour. President Biden had a rough
time in a recent Juneteenth event. We've got some audio
that you have to hear, so stick around for that.
I'm Ryan Gorman with Dana McKay in for Michael del
Jorno this weekend. Right now, let's get to a trending story.
More bad news for King Charles, who just can't seem
to catch a break. No.
Speaker 6 (27:53):
Animal rights activists were caught on video vandalizing the new
portrait of King Charles at a London art gallery. This
is that portrait that was released a couple of weeks
ago that's basically just all red with King Charles and
just all the red all over him.
Speaker 5 (28:05):
It's a horrible portrait.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
Ye, it looked like it was vandalized before it was
actually vandalized.
Speaker 5 (28:09):
That was my thought too.
Speaker 6 (28:11):
But so these animal rights activists pasted a picture of
Wallace from Wallace and Grommet over King Charles's face, and
then they added a speech bubble that said no cheese
grommet look at all this cruelty on RSPCA farms and
a group called Animal Rising took responsibility, saying it's a
comic redecoration. It's not vandalism, it's a comic redecoration. And
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they said they did it to raise awareness about the
violation of animal rights rules at farms approved by the
Royal Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals. So
that's like the you know, the government agency. Yeah, and
they're saying that they're not following their own rules.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
I mean, they could have just said this, this image
looks like a King Charles coming out of a slaughterhouse.
Speaker 4 (28:56):
That is what it looks.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
Raise awareness that way. Yeah, that was really.
Speaker 6 (29:01):
Yeah, it was really awful. It actually looked better with
the vandalism on it. So the video of them doing this,
because it is kind of funny to watch them just
roll on up there and do it really quickly.
Speaker 5 (29:10):
It's on our Facebook page at Ryan Gorman Show.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
But King Charles, he can never catch a break, the guy,
he's he just nothing ever seems to go right for him.
Speaker 6 (29:20):
No, I mean he finally ascends to the thrown in
within what like a year, he ends up with cancer.
Speaker 5 (29:24):
This is horrible.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
And then he gets ill and there are headlines about that,
and then you have Kate Middleton's issues which totally knock
him out of the headlines on the front page.
Speaker 6 (29:33):
They can get sympathy without being overshadowed.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
Yeah, nobody seems to love the guy. King Charles, I
have a rough go of it. I'm letting McGill McGill's
world famous block store and my morning show is your
Morning Show with Michael del Jordo, Brian Gorman here with
Dana McKay. Yesterday, we were talking about this moment that
took place at a Juneteenth event where everybody is dancing.
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Vice President Kamala Harris is getting down, second gentleman is
doing a little dance, and then you've got President Biden
standing there frozen.
Speaker 5 (30:08):
He's just staring like off into space.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
Youah, very reminiscent of when Mitch McConnell froze up a
couple of times in front of the cameras. I don't
know if that's exactly what was happening to Biden, like
the same medical condition.
Speaker 6 (30:21):
And I feel like Biden has done that before, though
he does that often where you just see him and
he's just standing there like a deer in headlights, very
very still, and just looked even worse when there's all
these people next to him dancing.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
Yeah, and you had the R and C putting out
on social media? Is anybody home?
Speaker 5 (30:38):
Right?
Speaker 2 (30:39):
As the caption? And look, if I were in that situation,
I would just be standing there because I have no moves.
Speaker 4 (30:47):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (30:47):
But when you're in that situation and everyone around you
is dancing, you kind of got to make an effort
at least a little bit.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
Yeah, or at least don't look like a deer in headlights.
So if you didn't see that video, we have it
for you our Facebook page and go Ryan Gorman Show
to find it. But then also during this event, he
delivered a speech and there was one line in particular
that we polled because I have no idea what the
hell was saying here, Take a listen to this.
Speaker 7 (31:14):
She knows, she knows, so long as nine, our freedom
could never be secured.
Speaker 5 (31:20):
What she knows?
Speaker 2 (31:25):
He didn't understand that.
Speaker 5 (31:27):
We could try to decipher it with Yeah, she knows, she.
Speaker 7 (31:29):
Knew, she she knows. So long as it was nine,
our freedom could never be secured.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
Yeah, freedom can never be secured. He didn't understand that anything.
That part.
Speaker 5 (31:40):
I didn't understand what he said before.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
Yeah, she knew she was, and that reminded me. We
had this clip from a couple of weeks ago where
he was talking about a law that he got passed,
and it's kind of the same thing.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
Let me close this.
Speaker 7 (31:57):
After I signed the pack and pack At Black Act
into law.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
Yeah remember that? Yeah, Yeah, that's.
Speaker 5 (32:05):
Huge, which was huge. It did a lot for.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
Everyone, huge bipartisan accomplishment, the pack of LA and A
that that act, it was big.
Speaker 7 (32:13):
This after I signed the pack and pack At Act into.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
Law, it's a it's a really important piece of legislation, generational.
Uh So, yeah, we have these moments with President Biden
and you just wonder that the key here is is
he going to do that on the debate stage, Because
if something like this happens on the debate stage, you
know she knows.
Speaker 7 (32:34):
So long as nine are.
Speaker 5 (32:39):
You can just be like, what the hell did you
just say?
Speaker 4 (32:42):
Right?
Speaker 2 (32:43):
Uh? If Trump hears it, because it'll probably be just
talking over Biden as the debate's going on. You also
had this moment during that same speech where President Biden
said this another thing, I'm not one hundred percent sure.
Speaker 7 (32:55):
About black soldiers or a link distinguish lying the patriots
in slave dan free risk their lives in every war
since the founding, since the founding of our ideals, and
we don't know fully what American soil is, quality and freedom.
Speaker 5 (33:12):
Yes, we don't know fully what American soil is.
Speaker 8 (33:14):
Yea.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
The line is since the founding of our ideals, that
we don't know fully what American soil is. I'm not
one hundred percent sure what he was trying to get
out of.
Speaker 7 (33:23):
Box soldiers or a link and distinguished line of patriots
in slave dan free risk their lives in every war
since the founding, says, the founding of our ideals, and
we don't know fully what American soil is.
Speaker 6 (33:38):
Right, It's just like she knew, we don't know fully
what American soil is.
Speaker 5 (33:44):
Like I can make out the I just don't know
what the hell they mean.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
Yeah, the context is a little off there, but at
least it wasn't as bad as this gaff from a
couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 7 (33:55):
The direction storm.
Speaker 5 (34:00):
He's not the only one who's done that.
Speaker 6 (34:02):
No Tapper did it on cn That one's happening to
everyone I know.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
He's gonna want to say something about January sixth on
the debate stage, but he's got to be really careful.
Speaker 7 (34:13):
Direction store capitol.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
Hi Patres just you know, uh, we want to keep
that PG rated that debate. There was something that former
President Donald Trump said recently too that I wasn't undred
century about. Listen to this.
Speaker 9 (34:26):
They go and stop people from robbing stores. You go
to some of these departments, who will five hundred people
walk into the stores, They walk out with air conditions,
They stripped the whole store, The company goes out of business,
the store is vacant for twenty five years, the whole
city becomes a slum.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
Now, now, some of what he said there is true
and accurate. I have not seen images of people walking
out with air conditioning units.
Speaker 5 (34:51):
No, I haven't seen that either. In fact a little
bit large.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
Yeah. In fact, if somebody were to walk into a
store and literally try to walk right out with an
air conditioning I'd almost let them have it, because that's
kind of impressive.
Speaker 5 (35:02):
It really is.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
You know what you're gonna steal that, Go ahead and
take it. But the next thing you know, he's gonna
be on stage chain they're going into home depot and
they're just walking out with toilets and then showing up
in San Francisco. Then I'd be using them. They're just
crapping on the sidewalk and it's unbelievable what's happening over there.
So a little bit from President Biden and former President
Donald Trump. We're all in this together. This is your
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