October 28, 2025 • 48 mins
Slapbak frontman Jara Harris talks about his band’s powerful new single, “It’s Only America,” on Erika Digital Records and is a soulful rally cry, a hard-grooving protest, and a heartfelt plea for unity in an age of deep division.
Formed in Southern California and known for their ferocious live energy, SlapBak is what happens when you blend Sly Stone, Parliament, and Rage Against the Machine. The band toured with Bootsy Collins, Chaka Khan, & George Clinton. Now managed by Randy Jackson.
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Formed in Southern California and known for their ferocious live energy, SlapBak is what happens when you blend Sly Stone, Parliament, and Rage Against the Machine. The band toured with Bootsy Collins, Chaka Khan, & George Clinton. Now managed by Randy Jackson.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 3 (01:09):
I'm laughing to myself because it's Tuesday, for one, and
I'm in another place as usual, and it's showed number
one hundred and seventy six live shows in a row.
Let's start there. It's also giving Tuesday gift to the
favorite charities. Always give to the arts because it is very,
very important, especially now in the time of need. They
all need it. And this is Brian Sebastian. This is
movie reviews and more. And we are streaming live obviously
(01:32):
on over one around the world and streaming in it
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k fo HD Radio, Talk for TV and Talk for Media.
So the good thing about this, as you've been scheduled
for four months, this is a great thing. I love
your take on you know Parliament. You know, I love
(01:56):
that one. I thought that was great four weeks ago.
I think we're going to play a little clip with
that and then we have Carol tell them who you are.
What's going on?
Speaker 4 (02:05):
Hey, I'm Carol Register. I am an our science based
coach and I'm hitting some feedback. Somebody's somebody's got some
feedback going on. But I love working with people to
be healthy and happy and wealthy. I'm sorry and happy, healthy,
wealthy and happy. I particularly take six minute six figures
(02:30):
to seven seven plus figures. And I also help people
to feel a lot and heart centered in their wealth.
I run retreat set my little place down in the
Andes Mountains in southern Chile, and I also compost the
Unleashed and Unstoppable podcast as well. And super glad to
(02:53):
meet you. I'm I like, I really need I enjoyed
future boy, that's the thing.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Nice.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
Yeah with the video?
Speaker 5 (03:05):
Did did Hary? Haven't happen to mention to you that
I had cancer before? I didn't know if you know
that journey that I I've been through with that, I
didn't know that. Yeah, so I had I had stage
four cancer three years ago.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Actually, yeah, so tell us about that. Pretty crazy.
Speaker 5 (03:23):
Uh So, you know, for all of twenty twenty two
and uh a lot of twenty and twenty three was
a lot of hard recovery. I was fortunate to not
get any permanent side effects, but I got every temporary
side effect you could think of.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
It was.
Speaker 5 (03:43):
It was a pretty hard journey, but you know, I
made it through what I'm actually cured because it's the
type of cancer that was curable. So it's a yeah,
I look at things a lot different now. So it's
kind of cool that you do that. Wow, is that one?
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (03:58):
Yeah, I would do that, but if you half, because
I'm holding the phone with the other hand, I have heart.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Yeah, for the people who are listening around the world,
let's know who you are. What's the name of the
band and where you're coming from.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
The name of the band is slap Back.
Speaker 5 (04:20):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
You're a Harris. I'm the founder and uh singer, bass player.
Speaker 5 (04:26):
I do all the other instruments in the studio, but
live that's my that's my position.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
And I'm from Morris County, California.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
That's a good thing.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
How yeah, sound on you?
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Yeah, I can hear you all right?
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Tell them who you are? Where you're coming from? Dead,
can't Howard tell them who you are, where you're coming from?
Speaker 6 (04:47):
Okay, Howard Wiggins, I'm one of the world's top thirty
five leading into your designers.
Speaker 7 (04:53):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (04:54):
Next week I'll be shooting a video with Paul Smith
on the Blues Peddlers, and I had that coming up later.
I've got a lot of things going on right now,
so if you just follow me, cool, you can see
what's happening. But a lot of things are gonna be
changing within the next month or so.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Nice.
Speaker 7 (05:14):
And I was on you because I thought I thought
it might have been my cheat back with me.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Hi.
Speaker 7 (05:20):
I'm Harry and I've been with Brian for over fourteen years.
I'm here in Westley, California.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Nice to meet you guys.
Speaker 7 (05:29):
Thanks to meet you too.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Very cool, very cool.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
They talked about when you started this spand because Randy
Jackson is still your manager, right.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Yes he is. And that's a that's the story in itself.
Speaker 5 (05:42):
Because you know, we go back when I was starting out.
You know, I started slapped back back in nineteen ninety
and it was just a little little run and I
was playing with Michael Jackson's brother, Randy Jackson, which is
different from the Randy Jackson from American idol who is
(06:03):
you know who I he managed to slip back.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Now, But I was with Randy Jackson his band.
Speaker 5 (06:08):
He had a band called Randy in the Gypsies, and
so I after that, I decided to you know, do
my own, my own band, and we ended up getting
picked up by Warner Brothers. So as we were like
in the negotiate, you know, negotiating mode, that's when Randy
came to the table. He was with Columbia at the time,
(06:30):
and so he was interested in signing the bands. He
was the only other person that was interested in signing
the band. So I think we yet submitted to like
twenty six different record companies and they all said.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
We like it, but we're not looking for that right now,
so they all passed.
Speaker 5 (06:46):
Warner Brothers just happened to be at a show to
see the other band and we were playing after them.
That's how we got discovered by Warner Brothers. But then
Randy came to the table, but we ended up going
with Warner Brothers. But Randy and I go way back,
you know, nineteen ninety ninety one, and you know, we
lost touch after that. I ran into him again. I
(07:08):
was playing with Jordan's Sparks. I was her musical director
and bass player, and we had that song with she
had that sound with Chris Brown and we did American
Idol and Rain. He was a judge and the only
quest audience jab man, you weren't doing this over anything,
And I'm like.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
Oh, we lost down for a second.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
Yeah, oh there is. Well, we have to just out
let everybody know who's listening on the audio side that
he's in his car. He got done doing another podcast,
so he jumped on to where he was, so we
got your back, Hey back. Nope, he's still frozen or
or disconnected, one of the two. But the thing about
that that's interesting. He knows two famous Randy Jackson's. I
(07:53):
was trying to figure out which one it was.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
That's interesting participating in American Idol too, you know that
it's a lot of visibility. I caught some of the
couple of their videos and it is a very unique sound.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
I enjoyed it. I love it a lot.
Speaker 4 (08:10):
I'm super eclectic music tastes, though, but I think there
was something appealing. I planned to listen to a lot
more so. I'm pretty excited about learning about them.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
See I like the Funkadelic one. I actually listened to
that one. And then they had one that came out
for the world that they it came out July fourth.
They want to be on them, but we had no room.
So when he comes back or have them talking about that,
how we talk about when you went to tennis? I
mean you went to Atlanta, I think it was last
week and the shopping what did you go pick up?
Speaker 6 (08:39):
Yeah, I went to Atlanta. Of course, you know, I'm
moving to Chattanooga, so I did a little scouting for
well really seeing.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
A award thing.
Speaker 6 (08:51):
I'm going to the after party, so I did a
little scouting for that, and then of course from my
new home. You know me, I got to buy something
every week no matter what.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
You know.
Speaker 7 (09:02):
I like what you're.
Speaker 4 (09:03):
Doing with Paul Smith. That's really you know, you seem
to be doing a little bit more and more there,
which I'm sure sure alluding to. Right plus uh.
Speaker 6 (09:16):
Right, And unfortunately the maximum looks is coming back, and
so is color. So everything I've always done right back again.
That pendulum swings all the time.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
That is super cool.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
I'm back.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Yeah, you were you on the Randy Jackson Stead happened
to both be famous. What's the chances of.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
That, right? Yeah, get on technology, So.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
Pick up where you were when you got We connected
from the American Idol.
Speaker 5 (09:45):
Yeah, so after I saw him, you know, American Idols
still went like another That was two thousand and eight,
when I was with Jordan's Sparkes.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
So uh.
Speaker 5 (09:54):
In last year, we had a video, a live video
of us playing a club in the Good New each
It was like a random two and a half hour
like the full show, and he reached out to me,
still have my number, reached out to me and said
he saw it and he really liked the band, and
I was like cool.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
I didn't really know what that meant.
Speaker 5 (10:14):
You know, because I didn't really see us being the
type brand that Randy would work with.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
But he called me a couple other times.
Speaker 5 (10:20):
We kind of just talked randomly for it like two weeks,
and then he said, you know, let's let's get together.
I have some ideas for the band, you know, you know,
and that's where it started. But it was just it
was really random, you know, because that's like thirty years
later we finally started working together. Yeah, you know, and
it yeah, it was right after I just was just
(10:41):
coming back from the whole cancer experience, and he didn't
know that had happened.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
So it was just the timing was weird, imperfect.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
A lot of changes going on in your life right
this cancer journey, leaning in what you were saying about
having a new perspective and view online, reconnecting with Brandy Jackson,
and what's happening for you guys right now.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Well, I record finally came out.
Speaker 5 (11:11):
We finished first year with a lot of us kind
of figure out the direction. He's trying to kind of
figure out the best direction for us because we're.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
Mix of cut out again, yeah, cut out again until
he comes back. Terry talk about I mean, everybody's going
to changes right now, and I think we are all
having good change. Well, I don't think we all all
having good changes right now, Terry. You're having good changes
right now. You just got done moving. I'm not going
to say where you are because I don't do that.
(11:40):
But the whole thing about that is it's a good
thing for you. You actually look good. I've been telling
you that for the last couple of weeks, and so
for a lot of my female friends and sometimes me too.
We don't see the growth that we're happening, but it's happening.
Howard has been talking about that too. Those changes are
definitely a change is not always easy for people, but
(12:03):
it is in the future the best thing to happen.
Sometimes you can't see it until later on.
Speaker 7 (12:07):
Very true. So uh yeah, I mean, I've just been
moving the last two weeks and it's been very, very,
very stressful. I think that's one of the most stressful
things in life. I'm almost there. I just I mean
now going through I uh, unpacking and you know, figuring
(12:28):
out where I want to decorate stuff. So and I
have a lot of antiques, which I think Howard would appreciate.
Someday I have to do a once I get everything
fixed and all my artwork and everything up, we'll have
to kind of do a I remember like in MTD
cribs kind of things, just show all the neat stuff
that I have. So that's it's a lot of fun
(12:49):
like doing that. But it's just, yeah, it's been a
lot of work and I'm I'm I'm exhausted, and I
had to take off like two weeks of work two
weeks to like, you know, to move. That's how much
stuff I have. So and tomorrow I need to get
back to you know, by social media and to work
and to living my life back to where it should be.
(13:11):
So as you know, as Brian knows, I had a
challenging last two years, but I think it was two
years of growth. So hopefully I can help somebody else
with all the crazy experiences I've had the last two years,
like losing my mom and then you know, having issues
with family and all that, because I've learned, you know,
I've also learned, you know, we all go through these
(13:31):
trials as humans in different ways, but we kind of
all experienced loss and pain and betrayal, and it's you know,
it needs to be talked about because if you don't
talk about it, I think it eats you up. And
you know, hopefully I can help somebody else that's gone
through what I've gone through last years, if that makes sense.
(13:52):
So I'm kind of looking forward to this new chapter
in my life, and I think it's going to be exciting.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
Man. That's so cool, Terry, because you know, you you
bring up something that's really important. Moving is a huge trauma,
and not only moving that you went through grief, and
you know I when I had my move to Chile,
it was I had experienced all of the top five
on the Stressor scale, the top five stressors in the world,
(14:23):
and you've been through that and now you're being able
to turn that around and start to heal and share
that with helping other people. I mean, that's really exciting.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Yeah, And then.
Speaker 7 (14:37):
People don't like realize, like for example, like I had
to my mom passed aways, had to sell my childhood
home because it just wasn't it wasn't did make any
sense for me to keep it. It just was too big.
It just there was too much work to need to
do it on it and stuff, and and I don't
get a lot of my brother, so it just you
know it. But it's like another death because the house
(14:59):
is going to be demo as as I grew up in.
So it's kind of weird, Like you know, you go
through a loss of a parent, and then I'm going
through a loss of my childhood home and then I'm
starting over new. But I took a lot of stuff
that I inherited from my parents and made it my
own in my own house, so I feel like I'm
a part of them with me. So it's kind of
a spiritual connection too, but it's kind of I think
(15:23):
it's really important that you know that I remember and
for a lot of people where you come from and
where your ancestry comes from, and to channel that into
good things, if that makes sense. And that's what I'm
trying to do now.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
But now you get to create the life that you want.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Yeah, You're life.
Speaker 6 (15:41):
Now you've got control over you make it what you
wanted to be.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
It's a new start. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (15:48):
So, and as I said, I mean, I think, Howard,
you really kind of appreciate some of this stuff that
I have inherited because my parents went all over Europe
back in the nineties and clutching stuff from Germany, from France,
from London, and I have like all these really neat
items and antiques in my house that you know, just
brings up the character in here that I can just
(16:10):
look because I'm like you, Howard, I like to appreciate
art and I like to appreciate those nice things. I mean,
I've had people comment that, you know, maybe I have
too much of this stuff, but I like to have
a lot of pretty things around me, so I'm fine with.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
It, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
Well, Howard's a perfect example of having all kinds of
stuff and what he did with his stacked in layer,
right Howard.
Speaker 6 (16:30):
Yeah, backed and layer and maximum loveless is what's coming in.
If you look at all the books, it's color, it's layered,
it's it's eclectic, it's it's it's what makes you happy.
Whatever makes you happy is what you want. Forget whatever
the trends are. If you're happy, that's the main thing
that counts. So surround that up with things you love.
Speaker 7 (16:53):
Yeah, the things that make you happy.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
We got you back.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Yeah, right, I try moving to an area.
Speaker 5 (17:00):
I don't know why that's I kept getting kicked off,
So sorry about that.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
Technology happens, So you were right there.
Speaker 8 (17:08):
You know.
Speaker 4 (17:08):
It's about the that you're the band's style and how
that's ad.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Yeah, because they grew up in Orange County.
Speaker 5 (17:17):
That's why it's got a it's got a very uh
it's got that mix of kind of like rock, kind
of grungy a little bit, but it's it's still fun.
Funk is like the base of it. But it classes
over a lot like we play a lot of.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
Beach beach shitty beach cities. Uh, those type of audience
really love it.
Speaker 5 (17:36):
So people that love like Sublime love it, and then
there's like the park Teers that love it too, So
it's a very strange mix, but it works.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
You know.
Speaker 4 (17:46):
Wow, that's really I think that's where it gets exciting
to listen to a band when you've got this unique
blend of styles that make it your own, your own sound.
And I really liked the video for Future Boyd. I
enjoyed that, you know, where you guys were all coming
(18:07):
together singing around the table. It was really clear that
you were the front man, and it was just.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
A lot of fun to watch that.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Froze again.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
Yeah, hey, Howard knows all about that, don't you, Howard.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
You know, it wouldn't be.
Speaker 6 (18:23):
The podcast without it happening.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
Hey, Howard, talk about what's to the right of you
that looks beautiful? What is that his piece?
Speaker 6 (18:32):
It's an apothecary chest hell spice and it's written in Chinese.
There's ae hundred and many drawers in this as you're
in everyone, but if you open up any or you
can spell the spice that was stored in there. And
it's Chinese. I think it's from the early eighteen hundreds
(18:53):
or late seventeen hundreds.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
So oh that's so cool.
Speaker 6 (18:57):
Yeah, and Terry, you haven't sent me any of your art.
I still don't know what you're at.
Speaker 7 (19:02):
Looks like, Okay, after this, I'll send I'll send you
some stuff. I just the last few years. I I'm sorry,
it's just been such a journey that yeah, i'm again.
I'll send you some stuff tonight, I promise.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
Okay, it's appreciate that it's more kind.
Speaker 7 (19:16):
Of cartoonish kind of stuff, but it's it's I think, well,
you can definitely what you think.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
Yeah, I think it's so important. Right I used to
do that. Mine's all packed up in a chest and
chili right now. But I used to do past pastels
oil pastels a lot because when my kids were born
and they were little, you know, I didn't have to
get out the turpentine and all the things, or the
(19:43):
water or you know, I could just pull out my
pastels and go to it. And that was a lot
of fun. It brings back a lot of memories.
Speaker 6 (19:53):
So yeah, therapeutic, I think it's what the word I'm
trying to think of.
Speaker 7 (20:00):
I have to find it. I did a lot of
digital art, and I'm not really sure how to market
it because it's digital, but I guess you could just
print it out. I'm not really sure. I mean, it's
all like my seniors short and stuff, but it's just
been done on an iPad, which it kind of makes
it kind of neat because it's different.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
You know, Howard, I've seen I've seen some of her art.
Her art is good. He like hides it. Oh, I
did that was I was fourteen, or I did that
when I was a little girl. It know, what she
did was pretty good.
Speaker 7 (20:26):
I mean, he's not appreciating at my house that I didn't.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
We found all kinds of stuff at your house. I'm
surprised we didn't have you know, somebody buried well you
got animals buried in the back, so yeah, yeah, well yeah.
Speaker 7 (20:39):
Well that was That's kind of crazy because you know,
every pet that we had was exactly so there's like
a pet cemetery back there. So anyway, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
Howard, I think you would appreciate some of the stuff
that she had in her house. She had so much
stuff in the house that after a while she knew
she couldn't take it all. But the people that through
her house where really really do appreciate the stuff that
she had because she told the story of that that's
important for them.
Speaker 4 (21:06):
It sounds like you've got like you had your own
little museum going on there.
Speaker 7 (21:11):
My parents did, as I said, because they were all
over like London and Europe, and they just had so
many neat things. And then my dad worked for Disney,
so there was a ton of Disney stuff there, and
and you know, I have, you know, all this all
the real real neat stuff, you know I have, but
you know you can't, you can't take everything. So and
then some of this stuff, unfortunately I had, I'm gonna
(21:32):
have to leave in houses because there's just so much stuff.
So you know, it's but you know, that's kind of
that's what happens.
Speaker 4 (21:40):
Have you ever played an instrument or been involved in music?
Speaker 9 (21:45):
Me?
Speaker 7 (21:45):
Uh no, I dancer, but not played. And I mean
I've been a dancer all my life, and my mom
had me in ballet, jazz and even hula dancing at
the age of five years old. But not, I'm not.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
I'm not.
Speaker 7 (21:59):
I can't sing, and I can't I could play a
little piano, which I have a piano now at my house,
but I wish I could say that's a gift that
I've always wanted to have that, you know, I just
that was not given to me. I'm more of an artist,
a dancer, and I like to create things like you know,
but music is not one.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
Well talking about music, he's back. What did you do
this time? To get to what's about? You'd find John?
Speaker 5 (22:24):
He's I don't know what is just I just keep
taking breaks, say so, don't mind me, and I disappear
again and come back.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
That's funny. Let me ask you this, what's your advice today?
I ran into a bunch of young musicians at a party.
It was actually pretty good for Mattila the g and
North Hollywood. I didn't know the studio was there, just
everybody from Ozzie you know we recorded his last album. Okay,
(22:56):
I think it's in our o studio and North Hollywood.
It was really really beautiful studio. How you would love this,
you know, Buck Cherry God Melan Man said, everybody you
can think of recorded there. Everything was and it's been
there for a while, but just hidden. You would never
know what's there. And I loved it.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
But I made a bunch of young musicians like that.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
Yeah, yeah, but you know, I managed to a bunch
of young musicians and there everybody is still eager, and
it was interesting to see that they had moved there.
They've been in LA for three years or some of
them just keep coming in. What's your advice to them
for someone who's known, you know, legends like you know,
people that you we all grew up with listening, what
(23:35):
would you say to them today?
Speaker 2 (23:37):
You know, I feel like it's such a different world
for for for younger, younger musicians.
Speaker 5 (23:43):
You know, we didn't have YouTube when you know we
were growing up. Well for you know me, uh and so,
I grew up wanting the camaraderie of playing with other musicians,
and that kind of teaches you to listen to others,
other musicians. And I think music a lot of musicians,
(24:03):
not all of them. There's a lot of great musicians
out there. I mean, they're all phenomenal, but there's some
that are really good by themselves playing in front of
a camera for YouTube, but you do them in the
band situation and they don't know how to listen listen
to the people that they're playing with. Uh So, I
think for as musicians, it really depends what you're playing
(24:23):
for if you want to be like a you know,
a YouTuber, which is totally cool, and do that and
and and do all the tricks for the camera. But
I think for musicians that are looking to get into
like a solid live situation, playing with somebody, you know,
like an established artists or even like studying a band,
you just got to get out there and start playing
with people and and and and start like learning to
(24:47):
pick up vibes. And it's kind of like anything. I
always I always use relationships when it comes to musicians.
It's like you could be a person that's loud talks
all the time and you don't hear anything because you're
constantly talking. You're constant me me, me, me me. And
I think the great musicians are the ones that can
play minimum and listen to what's going on around them
(25:08):
and then and then you learn to play what's needed
instead of what you just want to play.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
So there's a lot I'm.
Speaker 5 (25:16):
Really weird when it comes to musicians because you know,
I'm old school. I started playing at four years old
in the seventies, so I've been playing live for you know, fifty.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
Years, and uh, what is you start on drums?
Speaker 4 (25:32):
Drums? And now you can probably play everything, right.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
Yeah. I have a lot of lots of stepback records.
Speaker 5 (25:40):
I have a solo record where I play everything on there.
I think it's just me on the record doing guitar,
keyboards based drums on the vocals. But you know it,
I think starting with drums just kind of gave me.
That was my thing for like, you know, fifteen years,
and then I kind of fell into, like, you know,
doing bass. Once they got a four track, I started,
(26:01):
you know, playing everything. But that was that made me
a better drummer because I got used to listening to,
you know, all the other instruments, not just playing what
I wanted to play.
Speaker 4 (26:12):
Well, you can definitely relate to that, you know, and
being coming from the drum corps, I think it's really
beautiful when you can transition to other instruments and it
brings an intimacy to the music that because of your
awareness there. I'm not a musician, but I think in
(26:35):
music a lot, right, so I can definitely relate to
certain aspects. And my experience in South America causes me
to really love Latin music, Latin percussion, you know, the merengue,
but tata, all of it, and so I'm a real
(26:58):
fan of percussion, so uh, I love you got to
start that way, and I can imagine as the as
slap back developed along the way, you got to play
with a lot of other people as well.
Speaker 5 (27:13):
Yes, for sure, I mean I've I've played with everybody
from you know, uh jazz band, Digital Underground. I've sang
on two Michael Buble Christmas albums.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
I've done some really random stuff over the years.
Speaker 5 (27:27):
But I was never uh, I was never the type
musician that wanted to be a hired musician. So, you know,
I played with Moris Day in the time I did,
I can't remember. I played now with Donovan Franklin writer.
I don't know know who he is, but he was
produced by h Jack Johnson and he's just a very
He's kind of in that seam lane as Jack Johnson,
(27:48):
and he tours you mean Jackie Johnson, No, Jack Jack Johnson.
He's a singer, guitar player, kind of kind of surf
kind of surf rock, kind of kind of kind.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
Of vibe, you know.
Speaker 5 (28:02):
Uh, and uh Donothan Franklin writer, it's kind of the
same thing he comes from from from being a prost surfer.
Then he transitioned into being like a professional musician. Now
he tours everywhere and I played drums for him. When
we know when I can tour from downtime with Slapback,
I tour with him, like we're going to Australia and
New Zealand next month, so we're doing like a three
(28:24):
week tour. But those guys they come they come from
they come from the world of like the grind, and
I feel like a lot of young musicians aren't used
to the grind because you know, they're in their room
doing that that thing in fun the camera.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
The grind is different. I mean, people in my band
are like, wow, I.
Speaker 9 (28:47):
Mean that gig was long, and I'm like, man, when
I was your age, I was doing like, you know,
nine to one gigs, four sets, well one hundred bucks,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 5 (28:58):
It's just a different so, you know, I pay different dues.
But there's some really phenomenal musicians out there. I just
tell people to just keep at it. If we're seeing
her heart, keep at it, and you never you never
know when it's your time, you know.
Speaker 6 (29:13):
I like to think, how did you get on the
you said American Idol?
Speaker 4 (29:17):
Right?
Speaker 2 (29:18):
Yes?
Speaker 6 (29:18):
Is that the TV show your own what what got.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
You to that point?
Speaker 6 (29:22):
Get onto that show, because I think that's what a
lot of people would know, like to know what you
did or how do you apply.
Speaker 5 (29:29):
I wasn't on the show. I worked with Jordan's spokes
who won. She was a she was a winner. I
was her musical director, and so we did. We did
a lot of American Idol shows performing on it.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
So we did.
Speaker 5 (29:48):
We did Australian Idol, we did, uh the one in Europe.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
We did, like you know, all of them.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
Now I know who you are. I always knew your name,
but I could with the face to your name until
you just said, Jordan's what she was phenomenal. You did
a great job with her behind the scenes.
Speaker 5 (30:07):
Jordan's spokes Yeah, she's thinking she was great, you know.
And and you know I didn't produce see him for step,
but I was her musical director for when she had
you know, the big kids say Tattoo and nowhere the
Chris Brown. So it was a it was a great experience.
But I never ever do those things.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
And then I.
Speaker 5 (30:26):
Would, you know, get back to doing my thing, because
I didn't want to. I didn't want to get caught
up and like going from project to project, being a
hired musician.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
I was never really my thing.
Speaker 5 (30:37):
But I got called to do her, and I'm like,
when I got to call him, who's that?
Speaker 2 (30:42):
You're like American Idol, I'm like, I don't watch American Idol.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
You know what's funny about that is I watched the
first season only because I had to interview you know,
you know Randy and Paula. Paula was always a friend,
going back to nineteen eighty seven when we broke her
for you know, on Hower one oh six. Okay, Andy,
I got to know Randy and Simon together because they
were there and well, first they didn't like each other,
(31:08):
and then they more they they got a chance to
talk outside. I think they got a chance to like
each other. So we all were friends, right, and that
was my thing or else. I didn't watch idle T,
but I always watched it the win. It was because
you just didn't know what was going.
Speaker 5 (31:20):
To happen to me right right right exactly, And I
was I was so like in a different well that
wasn't really doing the pop thing at that time. So
when I when I got caught by doing I'm like,
and they're really into doing that, and Stevie Sallas was
the musical director at the time. Uh, when I got
brought on, and I've worked with him numerous times in
(31:42):
different projects, so I kind of came in kind of
with the sorry attitude, I really don't want to do it.
But when he left then they asked me to be
a musical director, which that was so ironic since I
really wasn't, you know, favoring doing the gig in the
first place.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
But she was great to work well. She was only.
Speaker 5 (32:03):
Eighteen at the time, and uh, you know, seeing her experience,
like having to get up early and do radio shows
and stuff like that, she would kind of complain and
her management would get irritated. And I told her, I
told her manager, one wan, tell me, you got to
realize that she's young. She she didn't like grew up
playing in bands. And she won she basically won a contest,
(32:26):
and now here she is doing all this big stuff
and doing you know, video shows and TV shows and you.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
Know, not prepare for it, right grind if we.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
Didn't you know, we weren't in that before.
Speaker 5 (32:39):
So but she handled it really well and she took
off and she great actress and all that stuff.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
So, yeah, Jordan's she showed everybody.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
She was good. I remember entering her for a movie
that she was She was just really likable, but you
could tell she just wasn't ready for the grind. And
then you get used to it instead of her husband,
you know, you know they depending me you probably this
is too. They learned how to school you. That's why
good publicized is good. Thank you, narrative coning who's ours
now officially, which is good. It's one of those things
(33:09):
where that helps a great deal. And then their job
is to get you ready for those things because you
just never know what questions is going to come your way,
and you justn't really want to play the music like
what you were talking about, right, that's what you wanted
to do, right right?
Speaker 8 (33:22):
Absolutely, Yeah, as you've as you've seen slap BAC develop,
talk about your latest album and where you've seen it
evolve from the previous albums that you've done.
Speaker 5 (33:39):
This is I want to say, this is our tenth
album and we were pretty you know, maybe every two
years we do record and then the last one we
did was in two thousand and eight and the industry
changed so much and I didn't really feel the need
to do like the full album, so we would do
like singles, maybe a video here and there. I think
(34:01):
for me being signed in ninety one, how things were
and things were just starting to change right around the
time that we got signed. But to see the change,
and at the time that we did the last record,
Bredean White from Earth was managing us and his partner
Scott Julian. So I remember one time he came to
(34:23):
our rehearsal and he's trying to explain to us how
the industry is really about, like how many my Space
friends you have at the time, right, and we were
just like, what what are.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
You telling us?
Speaker 4 (34:39):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 5 (34:40):
And TJ, who's been with me the longest, he really
just wasn't wasn't hearing it, you know, he was just
kind of like, wow, So you mean to tell me
we have to hustle and try to get friends on
my space?
Speaker 3 (34:55):
So you know, for us, Jared hold that, let's listen
to this.
Speaker 10 (35:00):
Okay, everybody come out and put.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
Them up again.
Speaker 5 (35:15):
Fucking yeah, man by balls again, pocon have everybody.
Speaker 4 (35:22):
Have a boy?
Speaker 7 (35:24):
Basta bah?
Speaker 2 (35:25):
All right, all right, everybody say everybody and again fuck
what have everybody?
Speaker 3 (35:50):
You know, it's funny. If I didn't be if I
wasn't a drummer, I would I always pretend I can
play the bass, ye play, always pretend that I can't
because I just loved that bass sound in the mid
to late seventies. And you talked about Vernon White obviously
everybody from Earth Wind and Fire one of the great
bass players. And you know, back at one point, a
(36:10):
lot of bands that came out of Ohio slapping that
base that came out of Slidestones band. I can't remember
his name right now, Larry Graham, Larry Graham, That's where
the slapping of the bass came from. All of that.
Everybody tried to copy that sound after a while, right.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, and then then it then it became huge.
And it's funny. We just played Dayton uh uh.
Speaker 5 (36:36):
Uh last year and so cool for us to play
there for the first time because it was such a
warm reception. People have been waiting years since he slapped
back play because that's like that we call the capital
from capital of the World, Dayton, Ohio, you.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
Know, as you that are like Detroit with that area.
So it was nice for us to play there, you know,
out there for the first time.
Speaker 3 (36:58):
But yeah, for the audience that doesn't know. And the
reason why Dayton was great. Going back to the seventies,
you could you could go back to the Barcades and Cameo, Yeah,
and all those great bands that I like, they came
out of Ohio and the reason they came out of
Ohio because they would all get together and start doing
those traveling like the rock bands with you when they
(37:18):
came to California, getting fans to start traveling to local
shows and you got a chance to see them, and
you got a chance to grow that audience right right
right right.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (37:28):
I wish I wish I was around back in those days.
You know, I always I caught the Second Wave. A
lot of those bands I didn't see till the nineties
when I was like, you know, in in my twenties,
but you know, when they were hot and I was like,
you know, a kid, I didn't get to see them,
but I the Second Wave was still pretty good.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
Like I saw Zap.
Speaker 5 (37:48):
I remember first to myself, Zap I was like, wow,
Bootsye like I kint u I kind of the best
they could in the nineties. But yeah, I appreciate you
know how you see where we come from. Like we
like to associate more with the older you know, the
older bands, because that's that's kind of what touches us
(38:09):
more because they were doing it in a way that
we'd like to do it.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
Uh, we don't don't use auto tune.
Speaker 5 (38:15):
We don't do any of the stuff that you know
a lot of people do now if they have a
bunch of dances and they have a lot of stuff
on track so they can dance.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
Like if we dance, we have to still.
Speaker 5 (38:25):
Sing just like more stay in the time with you
or cameo with you, And that's we kind of put
our standards up.
Speaker 2 (38:33):
Try to put our standards up with those guys.
Speaker 3 (38:35):
You know that is that power is a great dancer.
But also I've seen on TikTok and and Instagram and
Facebook a lot of white people, younger who aren't around
it with their kids dancing to those eighties, nineties and
going back to the seventies sounds and stuff, and I
think that's really cool.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
Oh yeah, and killing it and killing it.
Speaker 3 (38:58):
You know, I think that I may that the kids
in with him and the moms and dads are like
I used to dance with this stuff and the kids
are like, what is wrong with my my mother?
Speaker 2 (39:07):
I think I think it's great.
Speaker 5 (39:09):
You have people like you know, Brudo Mars and and
Lizo and you know, even beyond you touched on it
sometimes uh title the Creator. You have a lot of
these younger artists that are uh uh really attached to
that old school vibe and and you know, it's brought
it to like the younger audience, which is great.
Speaker 2 (39:30):
You know a lot of a lot of like old
school funky tears that.
Speaker 5 (39:35):
We heard them kind of bitter about, uh, Brudo Mars
when he came out with Uptown Funk because they're like, oh,
it's not real funk.
Speaker 2 (39:41):
I'm like, what are you talking about about? I mean,
if anything, oh wonderful day. He did that and even
put funk in the title.
Speaker 5 (39:52):
I mean, he pretty much made funk mainstreaming game just
by that song, him and Mark Bronson. But you know,
people just get like that, Oh man, you have a
bunch of So that's not the point. It doesn't matter.
It's some people don't understand how it works that they
get caught up kind of like on the wrong side
of things. That's not the point. The point is that
(40:13):
Bruno Martus was big enough to do it, and some
people that are that are that big still won't take
that chance.
Speaker 2 (40:19):
But he took the chance and did it, and you
have to give him credit for that.
Speaker 3 (40:23):
Look what Bruno is now, I mean Bruno was great.
I mean I couldn't be happy for you when you
can play at the Apollo, Yeah, knock it out like that.
That says something. But he's got a huge white audience
and I think that's great.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
Yeah, oh yeah, for sure.
Speaker 3 (40:37):
He's Howard's saying, I'm one of them.
Speaker 2 (40:41):
But you know, Slapbag has always been mixed.
Speaker 5 (40:44):
It's always been like when we got signed to Warner Brothers,
it was mostly I think it was five white people
and three black people, which was just me and my
two sisters. But since he grew up in Mission, yeho,
that's I had to take musicians and train them how
to play funk. But I had a funky band and
was you know, it's mostly white people. And so when
(41:05):
we got signed to Warner Brothers, Brandnie Medina was there
at the time and it was concentrated more on fresh
Prince Umbrellaire and we did a showcase for him, and
I'll be honest, it wasn't the greatest. He passed on it,
but we also did a showcase for Michael Lost and
he was also.
Speaker 2 (41:22):
A VP at Warner Bros. At the time and he
loved it.
Speaker 5 (41:26):
So we basically got signed to the white department at
Warner Brothers. So we were under like the department that
had Black Crows, Faith No More Red Hot Chili Peppers.
Then there was slap Bag, which live that was kind
of how we came across. We came across like a
fishbone kind of.
Speaker 3 (41:45):
Our show was very like Living Color, you qualified film.
Speaker 5 (41:50):
So our show was very much like that, but music
was very pre fund was more pre funk, so didn't
really know what to do with it. And when the
record came out, the first record, George Clinton ended up
being on it, Bootsie Collins, Larry Blackman from Cameos, so
we had all these you know, funk legends on our
first record and urban radio started playing it, so they
(42:12):
were scratching their head like, uh, this is going more urban.
But there we were under the you know, the alternative
alternative department, and that's when I first really experienced politics
because Benny we don't want to help at the time
because he passed on it. It would make him look
bad if this band that he passed on that's in
the white department ended up taking off in the urban department.
Speaker 2 (42:34):
Yeah, I mean it was all that kind of stuff
that was happening.
Speaker 5 (42:38):
So I've always dealt Slotback has always dealt with the
race thing because we've always been you know, multi racial always.
Speaker 2 (42:46):
That's always been our vibe.
Speaker 5 (42:48):
Uh, And that's why we would get compared to sign
a family stone because we were such a mix of
like black and white boys and girls that you know,
it's it's kind of every old, old and young.
Speaker 2 (43:01):
You know, our band is from twenty six to fifty
six is the ages in the band.
Speaker 5 (43:08):
Yeah, So we've always had that that kind of vibe.
But I was telling the band, I go back. When
we came out, it was like a big deal, Like
eminem was a big deal. It was a big deal
if you could see a white person dance and they
look black when they dance. Now it's like you go
on chiktok or Instagram. Every white person can dance, like
everybody can dance.
Speaker 2 (43:27):
It's not a thing.
Speaker 3 (43:27):
And you know why because I listen to the great
music that was played back then that's why you can
And what I love you see them dancing with their kids.
Speaker 2 (43:37):
I love that, right, you know. I just saw a.
Speaker 5 (43:43):
Clip of Average White Band on Soul Train, and I'm like,
those guys were like aliens back thing because they were
so funky. At that time, you didn't see any white
band playing like and feeling it legit like how Average
White Band did.
Speaker 2 (43:58):
Like I watched, I'm like, are you kidding me? You're crazy?
Speaker 4 (44:04):
So good it's got to be fun to look back
and watch that, you know again, And I think it's
really interesting what you said about the black and white
mix the ages and winter sisters start to play a
role in the band. When did they come along with you?
Speaker 5 (44:24):
That was in the very beginning, So for the first
first teen years it was my sisters and they they
kind of created that whole, that whole image of like
they would come they'd have like their stomachs out, but
they would have like jeans shirts tied around the way through,
very like tom boyish, grungy, and and to be honest,
(44:45):
that was the family thing. When when I first had
a meeting with Warner Brothers and they asked me and
they're like, who's who else?
Speaker 2 (44:51):
You're like the three three key people in the band
other than you and I. It was the keyboard player,
the drummer, and the other keyboard player.
Speaker 5 (44:58):
Because we worked together every single night we would record,
go to Dennis, go back in the studio.
Speaker 2 (45:03):
We did that for a year. Street we were we
were inseparable.
Speaker 3 (45:08):
Sister thought hold out because we got a couple of
minutes left. Hey, Chris, I'm glad that you came out.
Last minute. We got to talk about you really quickly
because I'm gonna have to book you on another Sorry
I didn't know.
Speaker 2 (45:20):
Somebody please take.
Speaker 11 (45:23):
Sorry about that crossed with the link, but yeah, sorry, Yeah,
you got.
Speaker 3 (45:30):
About sixty seconds to take. Talk about the Girl on
the Street real quick.
Speaker 11 (45:34):
For the elevator pitch. Yeah, it's a film. It's in
the festivals, just played in the Brooklyn Horror Film Festival,
Vancouver Horror Show. Got a couple more coming up. Yeah,
it's a horror movie, super spooky, Hitchcock vibes, and really
hopeful that we can get some energy around it as
it kind of makes its run around the US and Canada.
Speaker 3 (45:55):
You know what, play this trailer to close out our show.
I'm gonna give you guys back, and you guys just
want something to it, didn't you?
Speaker 11 (46:02):
Yeah, we did. We were best lead Actor, our lead
performer one at the Vancouver Horror Show.
Speaker 3 (46:07):
She's super congratulations for that because I know that show.
All Right, we're gonna play this out and I'm gonna
have you guys come back. All right, let's lay this
sounds good, rebels getting it step What does it cost.
Speaker 12 (46:20):
To be a good person? There's a girl out there.
Speaker 3 (46:33):
She's in the street, she's screaming.
Speaker 12 (46:36):
She seems distressed and she's in some kind of trouble.
Speaker 3 (46:40):
Should should I do something?
Speaker 7 (46:43):
Why haven't you checked on her?
Speaker 4 (46:44):
Sir?
Speaker 12 (46:46):
She's got something on her head.
Speaker 3 (46:47):
It's like like a face.
Speaker 7 (47:16):
Hey.
Speaker 3 (47:16):
So I was there when Chris started film Threat, so
that was a good thing. Hey, and we're out of time.
So you know what, Chris, I'm going to have you back.
I will find a schedule for maybe next week. I
will talk about that. Hey, good seeing you. And now
I recognize you because you did a great job with
Jordan's Fox, Terry Howard and Carol. I always say this,
(47:37):
have a good night tonight. If better they did tomorrow.
You see someone without a smile, please give them one
of yours on Brian Sebastian, This Is Movie reviews and more,
See the Girl in the Street and listen to slap Back.
We'll see you next week.
Speaker 2 (47:48):
Bye.
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So the good thing about this, as you've been scheduled
for four months, this is a great thing. I love
your take on you know Parliament. You know, I love
(01:56):
that one. I thought that was great four weeks ago.
I think we're going to play a little clip with
that and then we have Carol tell them who you are.
What's going on?
Speaker 4 (02:05):
Hey, I'm Carol Register. I am an our science based
coach and I'm hitting some feedback. Somebody's somebody's got some
feedback going on. But I love working with people to
be healthy and happy and wealthy. I'm sorry and happy, healthy,
wealthy and happy. I particularly take six minute six figures
(02:30):
to seven seven plus figures. And I also help people
to feel a lot and heart centered in their wealth.
I run retreat set my little place down in the
Andes Mountains in southern Chile, and I also compost the
Unleashed and Unstoppable podcast as well. And super glad to
(02:53):
meet you. I'm I like, I really need I enjoyed
future boy, that's the thing.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Nice.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
Yeah with the video?
Speaker 5 (03:05):
Did did Hary? Haven't happen to mention to you that
I had cancer before? I didn't know if you know
that journey that I I've been through with that, I
didn't know that. Yeah, so I had I had stage
four cancer three years ago.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Actually, yeah, so tell us about that. Pretty crazy.
Speaker 5 (03:23):
Uh So, you know, for all of twenty twenty two
and uh a lot of twenty and twenty three was
a lot of hard recovery. I was fortunate to not
get any permanent side effects, but I got every temporary
side effect you could think of.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
It was.
Speaker 5 (03:43):
It was a pretty hard journey, but you know, I
made it through what I'm actually cured because it's the
type of cancer that was curable. So it's a yeah,
I look at things a lot different now. So it's
kind of cool that you do that. Wow, is that one?
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (03:58):
Yeah, I would do that, but if you half, because
I'm holding the phone with the other hand, I have heart.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Yeah, for the people who are listening around the world,
let's know who you are. What's the name of the
band and where you're coming from.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
The name of the band is slap Back.
Speaker 5 (04:20):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
You're a Harris. I'm the founder and uh singer, bass player.
Speaker 5 (04:26):
I do all the other instruments in the studio, but
live that's my that's my position.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
And I'm from Morris County, California.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
That's a good thing.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
How yeah, sound on you?
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Yeah, I can hear you all right?
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Tell them who you are? Where you're coming from? Dead,
can't Howard tell them who you are, where you're coming from?
Speaker 6 (04:47):
Okay, Howard Wiggins, I'm one of the world's top thirty
five leading into your designers.
Speaker 7 (04:53):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (04:54):
Next week I'll be shooting a video with Paul Smith
on the Blues Peddlers, and I had that coming up later.
I've got a lot of things going on right now,
so if you just follow me, cool, you can see
what's happening. But a lot of things are gonna be
changing within the next month or so.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Nice.
Speaker 7 (05:14):
And I was on you because I thought I thought
it might have been my cheat back with me.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Hi.
Speaker 7 (05:20):
I'm Harry and I've been with Brian for over fourteen years.
I'm here in Westley, California.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Nice to meet you guys.
Speaker 7 (05:29):
Thanks to meet you too.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Very cool, very cool.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
They talked about when you started this spand because Randy
Jackson is still your manager, right.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Yes he is. And that's a that's the story in itself.
Speaker 5 (05:42):
Because you know, we go back when I was starting out.
You know, I started slapped back back in nineteen ninety
and it was just a little little run and I
was playing with Michael Jackson's brother, Randy Jackson, which is
different from the Randy Jackson from American idol who is
(06:03):
you know who I he managed to slip back.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Now, But I was with Randy Jackson his band.
Speaker 5 (06:08):
He had a band called Randy in the Gypsies, and
so I after that, I decided to you know, do
my own, my own band, and we ended up getting
picked up by Warner Brothers. So as we were like
in the negotiate, you know, negotiating mode, that's when Randy
came to the table. He was with Columbia at the time,
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and so he was interested in signing the bands. He
was the only other person that was interested in signing
the band. So I think we yet submitted to like
twenty six different record companies and they all said.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
We like it, but we're not looking for that right now,
so they all passed.
Speaker 5 (06:46):
Warner Brothers just happened to be at a show to
see the other band and we were playing after them.
That's how we got discovered by Warner Brothers. But then
Randy came to the table, but we ended up going
with Warner Brothers. But Randy and I go way back,
you know, nineteen ninety ninety one, and you know, we
lost touch after that. I ran into him again. I
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was playing with Jordan's Sparks. I was her musical director
and bass player, and we had that song with she
had that sound with Chris Brown and we did American
Idol and Rain. He was a judge and the only
quest audience jab man, you weren't doing this over anything,
And I'm like.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
Oh, we lost down for a second.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
Yeah, oh there is. Well, we have to just out
let everybody know who's listening on the audio side that
he's in his car. He got done doing another podcast,
so he jumped on to where he was, so we
got your back, Hey back. Nope, he's still frozen or
or disconnected, one of the two. But the thing about
that that's interesting. He knows two famous Randy Jackson's. I
(07:53):
was trying to figure out which one it was.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
That's interesting participating in American Idol too, you know that
it's a lot of visibility. I caught some of the
couple of their videos and it is a very unique sound.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
I enjoyed it. I love it a lot.
Speaker 4 (08:10):
I'm super eclectic music tastes, though, but I think there
was something appealing. I planned to listen to a lot
more so. I'm pretty excited about learning about them.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
See I like the Funkadelic one. I actually listened to
that one. And then they had one that came out
for the world that they it came out July fourth.
They want to be on them, but we had no room.
So when he comes back or have them talking about that,
how we talk about when you went to tennis? I
mean you went to Atlanta, I think it was last
week and the shopping what did you go pick up?
Speaker 6 (08:39):
Yeah, I went to Atlanta. Of course, you know, I'm
moving to Chattanooga, so I did a little scouting for
well really seeing.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
A award thing.
Speaker 6 (08:51):
I'm going to the after party, so I did a
little scouting for that, and then of course from my
new home. You know me, I got to buy something
every week no matter what.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
You know.
Speaker 7 (09:02):
I like what you're.
Speaker 4 (09:03):
Doing with Paul Smith. That's really you know, you seem
to be doing a little bit more and more there,
which I'm sure sure alluding to. Right plus uh.
Speaker 6 (09:16):
Right, And unfortunately the maximum looks is coming back, and
so is color. So everything I've always done right back again.
That pendulum swings all the time.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
That is super cool.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
I'm back.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Yeah, you were you on the Randy Jackson Stead happened
to both be famous. What's the chances of.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
That, right? Yeah, get on technology, So.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
Pick up where you were when you got We connected
from the American Idol.
Speaker 5 (09:45):
Yeah, so after I saw him, you know, American Idols
still went like another That was two thousand and eight,
when I was with Jordan's Sparkes.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
So uh.
Speaker 5 (09:54):
In last year, we had a video, a live video
of us playing a club in the Good New each
It was like a random two and a half hour
like the full show, and he reached out to me,
still have my number, reached out to me and said
he saw it and he really liked the band, and
I was like cool.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
I didn't really know what that meant.
Speaker 5 (10:14):
You know, because I didn't really see us being the
type brand that Randy would work with.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
But he called me a couple other times.
Speaker 5 (10:20):
We kind of just talked randomly for it like two weeks,
and then he said, you know, let's let's get together.
I have some ideas for the band, you know, you know,
and that's where it started. But it was just it
was really random, you know, because that's like thirty years
later we finally started working together. Yeah, you know, and
it yeah, it was right after I just was just
(10:41):
coming back from the whole cancer experience, and he didn't
know that had happened.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
So it was just the timing was weird, imperfect.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
A lot of changes going on in your life right
this cancer journey, leaning in what you were saying about
having a new perspective and view online, reconnecting with Brandy Jackson,
and what's happening for you guys right now.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Well, I record finally came out.
Speaker 5 (11:11):
We finished first year with a lot of us kind
of figure out the direction. He's trying to kind of
figure out the best direction for us because we're.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
Mix of cut out again, yeah, cut out again until
he comes back. Terry talk about I mean, everybody's going
to changes right now, and I think we are all
having good change. Well, I don't think we all all
having good changes right now, Terry. You're having good changes
right now. You just got done moving. I'm not going
to say where you are because I don't do that.
(11:40):
But the whole thing about that is it's a good
thing for you. You actually look good. I've been telling
you that for the last couple of weeks, and so
for a lot of my female friends and sometimes me too.
We don't see the growth that we're happening, but it's happening.
Howard has been talking about that too. Those changes are
definitely a change is not always easy for people, but
(12:03):
it is in the future the best thing to happen.
Sometimes you can't see it until later on.
Speaker 7 (12:07):
Very true. So uh yeah, I mean, I've just been
moving the last two weeks and it's been very, very,
very stressful. I think that's one of the most stressful
things in life. I'm almost there. I just I mean
now going through I uh, unpacking and you know, figuring
(12:28):
out where I want to decorate stuff. So and I
have a lot of antiques, which I think Howard would appreciate.
Someday I have to do a once I get everything
fixed and all my artwork and everything up, we'll have
to kind of do a I remember like in MTD
cribs kind of things, just show all the neat stuff
that I have. So that's it's a lot of fun
(12:49):
like doing that. But it's just, yeah, it's been a
lot of work and I'm I'm I'm exhausted, and I
had to take off like two weeks of work two
weeks to like, you know, to move. That's how much
stuff I have. So and tomorrow I need to get
back to you know, by social media and to work
and to living my life back to where it should be.
(13:11):
So as you know, as Brian knows, I had a
challenging last two years, but I think it was two
years of growth. So hopefully I can help somebody else
with all the crazy experiences I've had the last two years,
like losing my mom and then you know, having issues
with family and all that, because I've learned, you know,
I've also learned, you know, we all go through these
(13:31):
trials as humans in different ways, but we kind of
all experienced loss and pain and betrayal, and it's you know,
it needs to be talked about because if you don't
talk about it, I think it eats you up. And
you know, hopefully I can help somebody else that's gone
through what I've gone through last years, if that makes sense.
(13:52):
So I'm kind of looking forward to this new chapter
in my life, and I think it's going to be exciting.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
Man. That's so cool, Terry, because you know, you you
bring up something that's really important. Moving is a huge trauma,
and not only moving that you went through grief, and
you know I when I had my move to Chile,
it was I had experienced all of the top five
on the Stressor scale, the top five stressors in the world,
(14:23):
and you've been through that and now you're being able
to turn that around and start to heal and share
that with helping other people. I mean, that's really exciting.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Yeah, And then.
Speaker 7 (14:37):
People don't like realize, like for example, like I had
to my mom passed aways, had to sell my childhood
home because it just wasn't it wasn't did make any
sense for me to keep it. It just was too big.
It just there was too much work to need to
do it on it and stuff, and and I don't
get a lot of my brother, so it just you
know it. But it's like another death because the house
(14:59):
is going to be demo as as I grew up in.
So it's kind of weird, Like you know, you go
through a loss of a parent, and then I'm going
through a loss of my childhood home and then I'm
starting over new. But I took a lot of stuff
that I inherited from my parents and made it my
own in my own house, so I feel like I'm
a part of them with me. So it's kind of
a spiritual connection too, but it's kind of I think
(15:23):
it's really important that you know that I remember and
for a lot of people where you come from and
where your ancestry comes from, and to channel that into
good things, if that makes sense. And that's what I'm
trying to do now.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
But now you get to create the life that you want.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Yeah, You're life.
Speaker 6 (15:41):
Now you've got control over you make it what you
wanted to be.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
It's a new start. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (15:48):
So, and as I said, I mean, I think, Howard,
you really kind of appreciate some of this stuff that
I have inherited because my parents went all over Europe
back in the nineties and clutching stuff from Germany, from France,
from London, and I have like all these really neat
items and antiques in my house that you know, just
brings up the character in here that I can just
(16:10):
look because I'm like you, Howard, I like to appreciate
art and I like to appreciate those nice things. I mean,
I've had people comment that, you know, maybe I have
too much of this stuff, but I like to have
a lot of pretty things around me, so I'm fine with.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
It, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
Well, Howard's a perfect example of having all kinds of
stuff and what he did with his stacked in layer,
right Howard.
Speaker 6 (16:30):
Yeah, backed and layer and maximum loveless is what's coming in.
If you look at all the books, it's color, it's layered,
it's it's eclectic, it's it's it's what makes you happy.
Whatever makes you happy is what you want. Forget whatever
the trends are. If you're happy, that's the main thing
that counts. So surround that up with things you love.
Speaker 7 (16:53):
Yeah, the things that make you happy.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
We got you back.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Yeah, right, I try moving to an area.
Speaker 5 (17:00):
I don't know why that's I kept getting kicked off,
So sorry about that.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
Technology happens, So you were right there.
Speaker 8 (17:08):
You know.
Speaker 4 (17:08):
It's about the that you're the band's style and how
that's ad.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Yeah, because they grew up in Orange County.
Speaker 5 (17:17):
That's why it's got a it's got a very uh
it's got that mix of kind of like rock, kind
of grungy a little bit, but it's it's still fun.
Funk is like the base of it. But it classes
over a lot like we play a lot of.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
Beach beach shitty beach cities. Uh, those type of audience
really love it.
Speaker 5 (17:36):
So people that love like Sublime love it, and then
there's like the park Teers that love it too, So
it's a very strange mix, but it works.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
You know.
Speaker 4 (17:46):
Wow, that's really I think that's where it gets exciting
to listen to a band when you've got this unique
blend of styles that make it your own, your own sound.
And I really liked the video for Future Boyd. I
enjoyed that, you know, where you guys were all coming
(18:07):
together singing around the table. It was really clear that
you were the front man, and it was just.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
A lot of fun to watch that.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Froze again.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
Yeah, hey, Howard knows all about that, don't you, Howard.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
You know, it wouldn't be.
Speaker 6 (18:23):
The podcast without it happening.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
Hey, Howard, talk about what's to the right of you
that looks beautiful? What is that his piece?
Speaker 6 (18:32):
It's an apothecary chest hell spice and it's written in Chinese.
There's ae hundred and many drawers in this as you're
in everyone, but if you open up any or you
can spell the spice that was stored in there. And
it's Chinese. I think it's from the early eighteen hundreds
(18:53):
or late seventeen hundreds.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
So oh that's so cool.
Speaker 6 (18:57):
Yeah, and Terry, you haven't sent me any of your art.
I still don't know what you're at.
Speaker 7 (19:02):
Looks like, Okay, after this, I'll send I'll send you
some stuff. I just the last few years. I I'm sorry,
it's just been such a journey that yeah, i'm again.
I'll send you some stuff tonight, I promise.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
Okay, it's appreciate that it's more kind.
Speaker 7 (19:16):
Of cartoonish kind of stuff, but it's it's I think, well,
you can definitely what you think.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
Yeah, I think it's so important. Right I used to
do that. Mine's all packed up in a chest and
chili right now. But I used to do past pastels
oil pastels a lot because when my kids were born
and they were little, you know, I didn't have to
get out the turpentine and all the things, or the
(19:43):
water or you know, I could just pull out my
pastels and go to it. And that was a lot
of fun. It brings back a lot of memories.
Speaker 6 (19:53):
So yeah, therapeutic, I think it's what the word I'm
trying to think of.
Speaker 7 (20:00):
I have to find it. I did a lot of
digital art, and I'm not really sure how to market
it because it's digital, but I guess you could just
print it out. I'm not really sure. I mean, it's
all like my seniors short and stuff, but it's just
been done on an iPad, which it kind of makes
it kind of neat because it's different.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
You know, Howard, I've seen I've seen some of her art.
Her art is good. He like hides it. Oh, I
did that was I was fourteen, or I did that
when I was a little girl. It know, what she
did was pretty good.
Speaker 7 (20:26):
I mean, he's not appreciating at my house that I didn't.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
We found all kinds of stuff at your house. I'm
surprised we didn't have you know, somebody buried well you
got animals buried in the back, so yeah, yeah, well yeah.
Speaker 7 (20:39):
Well that was That's kind of crazy because you know,
every pet that we had was exactly so there's like
a pet cemetery back there. So anyway, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
Howard, I think you would appreciate some of the stuff
that she had in her house. She had so much
stuff in the house that after a while she knew
she couldn't take it all. But the people that through
her house where really really do appreciate the stuff that
she had because she told the story of that that's
important for them.
Speaker 4 (21:06):
It sounds like you've got like you had your own
little museum going on there.
Speaker 7 (21:11):
My parents did, as I said, because they were all
over like London and Europe, and they just had so
many neat things. And then my dad worked for Disney,
so there was a ton of Disney stuff there, and
and you know, I have, you know, all this all
the real real neat stuff, you know I have, but
you know you can't, you can't take everything. So and
then some of this stuff, unfortunately I had, I'm gonna
(21:32):
have to leave in houses because there's just so much stuff.
So you know, it's but you know, that's kind of
that's what happens.
Speaker 4 (21:40):
Have you ever played an instrument or been involved in music?
Speaker 9 (21:45):
Me?
Speaker 7 (21:45):
Uh no, I dancer, but not played. And I mean
I've been a dancer all my life, and my mom
had me in ballet, jazz and even hula dancing at
the age of five years old. But not, I'm not.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
I'm not.
Speaker 7 (21:59):
I can't sing, and I can't I could play a
little piano, which I have a piano now at my house,
but I wish I could say that's a gift that
I've always wanted to have that, you know, I just
that was not given to me. I'm more of an artist,
a dancer, and I like to create things like you know,
but music is not one.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
Well talking about music, he's back. What did you do
this time? To get to what's about? You'd find John?
Speaker 5 (22:24):
He's I don't know what is just I just keep
taking breaks, say so, don't mind me, and I disappear
again and come back.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
That's funny. Let me ask you this, what's your advice today?
I ran into a bunch of young musicians at a party.
It was actually pretty good for Mattila the g and
North Hollywood. I didn't know the studio was there, just
everybody from Ozzie you know we recorded his last album. Okay,
(22:56):
I think it's in our o studio and North Hollywood.
It was really really beautiful studio. How you would love this,
you know, Buck Cherry God Melan Man said, everybody you
can think of recorded there. Everything was and it's been
there for a while, but just hidden. You would never
know what's there. And I loved it.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
But I made a bunch of young musicians like that.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
Yeah, yeah, but you know, I managed to a bunch
of young musicians and there everybody is still eager, and
it was interesting to see that they had moved there.
They've been in LA for three years or some of
them just keep coming in. What's your advice to them
for someone who's known, you know, legends like you know,
people that you we all grew up with listening, what
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would you say to them today?
Speaker 2 (23:37):
You know, I feel like it's such a different world
for for for younger, younger musicians.
Speaker 5 (23:43):
You know, we didn't have YouTube when you know we
were growing up. Well for you know me, uh and so,
I grew up wanting the camaraderie of playing with other musicians,
and that kind of teaches you to listen to others,
other musicians. And I think music a lot of musicians,
(24:03):
not all of them. There's a lot of great musicians
out there. I mean, they're all phenomenal, but there's some
that are really good by themselves playing in front of
a camera for YouTube, but you do them in the
band situation and they don't know how to listen listen
to the people that they're playing with. Uh So, I
think for as musicians, it really depends what you're playing
(24:23):
for if you want to be like a you know,
a YouTuber, which is totally cool, and do that and
and and do all the tricks for the camera. But
I think for musicians that are looking to get into
like a solid live situation, playing with somebody, you know,
like an established artists or even like studying a band,
you just got to get out there and start playing
with people and and and and start like learning to
(24:47):
pick up vibes. And it's kind of like anything. I
always I always use relationships when it comes to musicians.
It's like you could be a person that's loud talks
all the time and you don't hear anything because you're
constantly talking. You're constant me me, me, me me. And
I think the great musicians are the ones that can
play minimum and listen to what's going on around them
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and then and then you learn to play what's needed
instead of what you just want to play.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
So there's a lot I'm.
Speaker 5 (25:16):
Really weird when it comes to musicians because you know,
I'm old school. I started playing at four years old
in the seventies, so I've been playing live for you know, fifty.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
Years, and uh, what is you start on drums?
Speaker 4 (25:32):
Drums? And now you can probably play everything, right.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
Yeah. I have a lot of lots of stepback records.
Speaker 5 (25:40):
I have a solo record where I play everything on there.
I think it's just me on the record doing guitar,
keyboards based drums on the vocals. But you know it,
I think starting with drums just kind of gave me.
That was my thing for like, you know, fifteen years,
and then I kind of fell into, like, you know,
doing bass. Once they got a four track, I started,
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you know, playing everything. But that was that made me
a better drummer because I got used to listening to,
you know, all the other instruments, not just playing what
I wanted to play.
Speaker 4 (26:12):
Well, you can definitely relate to that, you know, and
being coming from the drum corps, I think it's really
beautiful when you can transition to other instruments and it
brings an intimacy to the music that because of your
awareness there. I'm not a musician, but I think in
(26:35):
music a lot, right, so I can definitely relate to
certain aspects. And my experience in South America causes me
to really love Latin music, Latin percussion, you know, the merengue,
but tata, all of it, and so I'm a real
(26:58):
fan of percussion, so uh, I love you got to
start that way, and I can imagine as the as
slap back developed along the way, you got to play
with a lot of other people as well.
Speaker 5 (27:13):
Yes, for sure, I mean I've I've played with everybody
from you know, uh jazz band, Digital Underground. I've sang
on two Michael Buble Christmas albums.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
I've done some really random stuff over the years.
Speaker 5 (27:27):
But I was never uh, I was never the type
musician that wanted to be a hired musician. So, you know,
I played with Moris Day in the time I did,
I can't remember. I played now with Donovan Franklin writer.
I don't know know who he is, but he was
produced by h Jack Johnson and he's just a very
He's kind of in that seam lane as Jack Johnson,
(27:48):
and he tours you mean Jackie Johnson, No, Jack Jack Johnson.
He's a singer, guitar player, kind of kind of surf
kind of surf rock, kind of kind of kind.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
Of vibe, you know.
Speaker 5 (28:02):
Uh, and uh Donothan Franklin writer, it's kind of the
same thing he comes from from from being a prost surfer.
Then he transitioned into being like a professional musician. Now
he tours everywhere and I played drums for him. When
we know when I can tour from downtime with Slapback,
I tour with him, like we're going to Australia and
New Zealand next month, so we're doing like a three
(28:24):
week tour. But those guys they come they come from
they come from the world of like the grind, and
I feel like a lot of young musicians aren't used
to the grind because you know, they're in their room
doing that that thing in fun the camera.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
The grind is different. I mean, people in my band
are like, wow, I.
Speaker 9 (28:47):
Mean that gig was long, and I'm like, man, when
I was your age, I was doing like, you know,
nine to one gigs, four sets, well one hundred bucks,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 5 (28:58):
It's just a different so, you know, I pay different dues.
But there's some really phenomenal musicians out there. I just
tell people to just keep at it. If we're seeing
her heart, keep at it, and you never you never
know when it's your time, you know.
Speaker 6 (29:13):
I like to think, how did you get on the
you said American Idol?
Speaker 4 (29:17):
Right?
Speaker 2 (29:18):
Yes?
Speaker 6 (29:18):
Is that the TV show your own what what got.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
You to that point?
Speaker 6 (29:22):
Get onto that show, because I think that's what a
lot of people would know, like to know what you
did or how do you apply.
Speaker 5 (29:29):
I wasn't on the show. I worked with Jordan's spokes
who won. She was a she was a winner. I
was her musical director, and so we did. We did
a lot of American Idol shows performing on it.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
So we did.
Speaker 5 (29:48):
We did Australian Idol, we did, uh the one in Europe.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
We did, like you know, all of them.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
Now I know who you are. I always knew your name,
but I could with the face to your name until
you just said, Jordan's what she was phenomenal. You did
a great job with her behind the scenes.
Speaker 5 (30:07):
Jordan's spokes Yeah, she's thinking she was great, you know.
And and you know I didn't produce see him for step,
but I was her musical director for when she had
you know, the big kids say Tattoo and nowhere the
Chris Brown. So it was a it was a great experience.
But I never ever do those things.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
And then I.
Speaker 5 (30:26):
Would, you know, get back to doing my thing, because
I didn't want to. I didn't want to get caught
up and like going from project to project, being a
hired musician.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
I was never really my thing.
Speaker 5 (30:37):
But I got called to do her, and I'm like,
when I got to call him, who's that?
Speaker 2 (30:42):
You're like American Idol, I'm like, I don't watch American Idol.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
You know what's funny about that is I watched the
first season only because I had to interview you know,
you know Randy and Paula. Paula was always a friend,
going back to nineteen eighty seven when we broke her
for you know, on Hower one oh six. Okay, Andy,
I got to know Randy and Simon together because they
were there and well, first they didn't like each other,
(31:08):
and then they more they they got a chance to
talk outside. I think they got a chance to like
each other. So we all were friends, right, and that
was my thing or else. I didn't watch idle T,
but I always watched it the win. It was because
you just didn't know what was going.
Speaker 5 (31:20):
To happen to me right right right exactly, And I
was I was so like in a different well that
wasn't really doing the pop thing at that time. So
when I when I got caught by doing I'm like,
and they're really into doing that, and Stevie Sallas was
the musical director at the time. Uh, when I got
brought on, and I've worked with him numerous times in
(31:42):
different projects, so I kind of came in kind of
with the sorry attitude, I really don't want to do it.
But when he left then they asked me to be
a musical director, which that was so ironic since I
really wasn't, you know, favoring doing the gig in the
first place.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
But she was great to work well. She was only.
Speaker 5 (32:03):
Eighteen at the time, and uh, you know, seeing her experience,
like having to get up early and do radio shows
and stuff like that, she would kind of complain and
her management would get irritated. And I told her, I
told her manager, one wan, tell me, you got to
realize that she's young. She she didn't like grew up
playing in bands. And she won she basically won a contest,
(32:26):
and now here she is doing all this big stuff
and doing you know, video shows and TV shows and you.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
Know, not prepare for it, right grind if we.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
Didn't you know, we weren't in that before.
Speaker 5 (32:39):
So but she handled it really well and she took
off and she great actress and all that stuff.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
So, yeah, Jordan's she showed everybody.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
She was good. I remember entering her for a movie
that she was She was just really likable, but you
could tell she just wasn't ready for the grind. And
then you get used to it instead of her husband,
you know, you know they depending me you probably this
is too. They learned how to school you. That's why
good publicized is good. Thank you, narrative coning who's ours
now officially, which is good. It's one of those things
(33:09):
where that helps a great deal. And then their job
is to get you ready for those things because you
just never know what questions is going to come your way,
and you justn't really want to play the music like
what you were talking about, right, that's what you wanted
to do, right right?
Speaker 8 (33:22):
Absolutely, Yeah, as you've as you've seen slap BAC develop,
talk about your latest album and where you've seen it
evolve from the previous albums that you've done.
Speaker 5 (33:39):
This is I want to say, this is our tenth
album and we were pretty you know, maybe every two
years we do record and then the last one we
did was in two thousand and eight and the industry
changed so much and I didn't really feel the need
to do like the full album, so we would do
like singles, maybe a video here and there. I think
(34:01):
for me being signed in ninety one, how things were
and things were just starting to change right around the
time that we got signed. But to see the change,
and at the time that we did the last record,
Bredean White from Earth was managing us and his partner
Scott Julian. So I remember one time he came to
(34:23):
our rehearsal and he's trying to explain to us how
the industry is really about, like how many my Space
friends you have at the time, right, and we were
just like, what what are.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
You telling us?
Speaker 4 (34:39):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 5 (34:40):
And TJ, who's been with me the longest, he really
just wasn't wasn't hearing it, you know, he was just
kind of like, wow, So you mean to tell me
we have to hustle and try to get friends on
my space?
Speaker 3 (34:55):
So you know, for us, Jared hold that, let's listen
to this.
Speaker 10 (35:00):
Okay, everybody come out and put.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
Them up again.
Speaker 5 (35:15):
Fucking yeah, man by balls again, pocon have everybody.
Speaker 4 (35:22):
Have a boy?
Speaker 7 (35:24):
Basta bah?
Speaker 2 (35:25):
All right, all right, everybody say everybody and again fuck
what have everybody?
Speaker 3 (35:50):
You know, it's funny. If I didn't be if I
wasn't a drummer, I would I always pretend I can
play the bass, ye play, always pretend that I can't
because I just loved that bass sound in the mid
to late seventies. And you talked about Vernon White obviously
everybody from Earth Wind and Fire one of the great
bass players. And you know, back at one point, a
(36:10):
lot of bands that came out of Ohio slapping that
base that came out of Slidestones band. I can't remember
his name right now, Larry Graham, Larry Graham, That's where
the slapping of the bass came from. All of that.
Everybody tried to copy that sound after a while, right.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, and then then it then it became huge.
And it's funny. We just played Dayton uh uh.
Speaker 5 (36:36):
Uh last year and so cool for us to play
there for the first time because it was such a
warm reception. People have been waiting years since he slapped
back play because that's like that we call the capital
from capital of the World, Dayton, Ohio, you.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
Know, as you that are like Detroit with that area.
So it was nice for us to play there, you know,
out there for the first time.
Speaker 3 (36:58):
But yeah, for the audience that doesn't know. And the
reason why Dayton was great. Going back to the seventies,
you could you could go back to the Barcades and Cameo, Yeah,
and all those great bands that I like, they came
out of Ohio and the reason they came out of
Ohio because they would all get together and start doing
those traveling like the rock bands with you when they
(37:18):
came to California, getting fans to start traveling to local
shows and you got a chance to see them, and
you got a chance to grow that audience right right
right right.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (37:28):
I wish I wish I was around back in those days.
You know, I always I caught the Second Wave. A
lot of those bands I didn't see till the nineties
when I was like, you know, in in my twenties,
but you know, when they were hot and I was like,
you know, a kid, I didn't get to see them,
but I the Second Wave was still pretty good.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
Like I saw Zap.
Speaker 5 (37:48):
I remember first to myself, Zap I was like, wow,
Bootsye like I kint u I kind of the best
they could in the nineties. But yeah, I appreciate you
know how you see where we come from. Like we
like to associate more with the older you know, the
older bands, because that's that's kind of what touches us
(38:09):
more because they were doing it in a way that
we'd like to do it.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
Uh, we don't don't use auto tune.
Speaker 5 (38:15):
We don't do any of the stuff that you know
a lot of people do now if they have a
bunch of dances and they have a lot of stuff
on track so they can dance.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
Like if we dance, we have to still.
Speaker 5 (38:25):
Sing just like more stay in the time with you
or cameo with you, And that's we kind of put
our standards up.
Speaker 2 (38:33):
Try to put our standards up with those guys.
Speaker 3 (38:35):
You know that is that power is a great dancer.
But also I've seen on TikTok and and Instagram and
Facebook a lot of white people, younger who aren't around
it with their kids dancing to those eighties, nineties and
going back to the seventies sounds and stuff, and I
think that's really cool.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
Oh yeah, and killing it and killing it.
Speaker 3 (38:58):
You know, I think that I may that the kids
in with him and the moms and dads are like
I used to dance with this stuff and the kids
are like, what is wrong with my my mother?
Speaker 2 (39:07):
I think I think it's great.
Speaker 5 (39:09):
You have people like you know, Brudo Mars and and
Lizo and you know, even beyond you touched on it
sometimes uh title the Creator. You have a lot of
these younger artists that are uh uh really attached to
that old school vibe and and you know, it's brought
it to like the younger audience, which is great.
Speaker 2 (39:30):
You know a lot of a lot of like old
school funky tears that.
Speaker 5 (39:35):
We heard them kind of bitter about, uh, Brudo Mars
when he came out with Uptown Funk because they're like, oh,
it's not real funk.
Speaker 2 (39:41):
I'm like, what are you talking about about? I mean,
if anything, oh wonderful day. He did that and even
put funk in the title.
Speaker 5 (39:52):
I mean, he pretty much made funk mainstreaming game just
by that song, him and Mark Bronson. But you know,
people just get like that, Oh man, you have a
bunch of So that's not the point. It doesn't matter.
It's some people don't understand how it works that they
get caught up kind of like on the wrong side
of things. That's not the point. The point is that
(40:13):
Bruno Martus was big enough to do it, and some
people that are that are that big still won't take
that chance.
Speaker 2 (40:19):
But he took the chance and did it, and you
have to give him credit for that.
Speaker 3 (40:23):
Look what Bruno is now, I mean Bruno was great.
I mean I couldn't be happy for you when you
can play at the Apollo, Yeah, knock it out like that.
That says something. But he's got a huge white audience
and I think that's great.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
Yeah, oh yeah, for sure.
Speaker 3 (40:37):
He's Howard's saying, I'm one of them.
Speaker 2 (40:41):
But you know, Slapbag has always been mixed.
Speaker 5 (40:44):
It's always been like when we got signed to Warner Brothers,
it was mostly I think it was five white people
and three black people, which was just me and my
two sisters. But since he grew up in Mission, yeho,
that's I had to take musicians and train them how
to play funk. But I had a funky band and
was you know, it's mostly white people. And so when
(41:05):
we got signed to Warner Brothers, Brandnie Medina was there
at the time and it was concentrated more on fresh
Prince Umbrellaire and we did a showcase for him, and
I'll be honest, it wasn't the greatest. He passed on it,
but we also did a showcase for Michael Lost and
he was also.
Speaker 2 (41:22):
A VP at Warner Bros. At the time and he
loved it.
Speaker 5 (41:26):
So we basically got signed to the white department at
Warner Brothers. So we were under like the department that
had Black Crows, Faith No More Red Hot Chili Peppers.
Then there was slap Bag, which live that was kind
of how we came across. We came across like a
fishbone kind of.
Speaker 3 (41:45):
Our show was very like Living Color, you qualified film.
Speaker 5 (41:50):
So our show was very much like that, but music
was very pre fund was more pre funk, so didn't
really know what to do with it. And when the
record came out, the first record, George Clinton ended up
being on it, Bootsie Collins, Larry Blackman from Cameos, so
we had all these you know, funk legends on our
first record and urban radio started playing it, so they
(42:12):
were scratching their head like, uh, this is going more urban.
But there we were under the you know, the alternative
alternative department, and that's when I first really experienced politics
because Benny we don't want to help at the time
because he passed on it. It would make him look
bad if this band that he passed on that's in
the white department ended up taking off in the urban department.
Speaker 2 (42:34):
Yeah, I mean it was all that kind of stuff
that was happening.
Speaker 5 (42:38):
So I've always dealt Slotback has always dealt with the
race thing because we've always been you know, multi racial always.
Speaker 2 (42:46):
That's always been our vibe.
Speaker 5 (42:48):
Uh, And that's why we would get compared to sign
a family stone because we were such a mix of
like black and white boys and girls that you know,
it's it's kind of every old, old and young.
Speaker 2 (43:01):
You know, our band is from twenty six to fifty
six is the ages in the band.
Speaker 5 (43:08):
Yeah, So we've always had that that kind of vibe.
But I was telling the band, I go back. When
we came out, it was like a big deal, Like
eminem was a big deal. It was a big deal
if you could see a white person dance and they
look black when they dance. Now it's like you go
on chiktok or Instagram. Every white person can dance, like
everybody can dance.
Speaker 2 (43:27):
It's not a thing.
Speaker 3 (43:27):
And you know why because I listen to the great
music that was played back then that's why you can
And what I love you see them dancing with their kids.
Speaker 2 (43:37):
I love that, right, you know. I just saw a.
Speaker 5 (43:43):
Clip of Average White Band on Soul Train, and I'm like,
those guys were like aliens back thing because they were
so funky. At that time, you didn't see any white
band playing like and feeling it legit like how Average
White Band did.
Speaker 2 (43:58):
Like I watched, I'm like, are you kidding me? You're crazy?
Speaker 4 (44:04):
So good it's got to be fun to look back
and watch that, you know again, And I think it's
really interesting what you said about the black and white
mix the ages and winter sisters start to play a
role in the band. When did they come along with you?
Speaker 5 (44:24):
That was in the very beginning, So for the first
first teen years it was my sisters and they they
kind of created that whole, that whole image of like
they would come they'd have like their stomachs out, but
they would have like jeans shirts tied around the way through,
very like tom boyish, grungy, and and to be honest,
(44:45):
that was the family thing. When when I first had
a meeting with Warner Brothers and they asked me and
they're like, who's who else?
Speaker 2 (44:51):
You're like the three three key people in the band
other than you and I. It was the keyboard player,
the drummer, and the other keyboard player.
Speaker 5 (44:58):
Because we worked together every single night we would record,
go to Dennis, go back in the studio.
Speaker 2 (45:03):
We did that for a year. Street we were we
were inseparable.
Speaker 3 (45:08):
Sister thought hold out because we got a couple of
minutes left. Hey, Chris, I'm glad that you came out.
Last minute. We got to talk about you really quickly
because I'm gonna have to book you on another Sorry
I didn't know.
Speaker 2 (45:20):
Somebody please take.
Speaker 11 (45:23):
Sorry about that crossed with the link, but yeah, sorry, Yeah,
you got.
Speaker 3 (45:30):
About sixty seconds to take. Talk about the Girl on
the Street real quick.
Speaker 11 (45:34):
For the elevator pitch. Yeah, it's a film. It's in
the festivals, just played in the Brooklyn Horror Film Festival,
Vancouver Horror Show. Got a couple more coming up. Yeah,
it's a horror movie, super spooky, Hitchcock vibes, and really
hopeful that we can get some energy around it as
it kind of makes its run around the US and Canada.
Speaker 3 (45:55):
You know what, play this trailer to close out our show.
I'm gonna give you guys back, and you guys just
want something to it, didn't you?
Speaker 11 (46:02):
Yeah, we did. We were best lead Actor, our lead
performer one at the Vancouver Horror Show.
Speaker 3 (46:07):
She's super congratulations for that because I know that show.
All Right, we're gonna play this out and I'm gonna
have you guys come back. All right, let's lay this
sounds good, rebels getting it step What does it cost.
Speaker 12 (46:20):
To be a good person? There's a girl out there.
Speaker 3 (46:33):
She's in the street, she's screaming.
Speaker 12 (46:36):
She seems distressed and she's in some kind of trouble.
Speaker 3 (46:40):
Should should I do something?
Speaker 7 (46:43):
Why haven't you checked on her?
Speaker 4 (46:44):
Sir?
Speaker 12 (46:46):
She's got something on her head.
Speaker 3 (46:47):
It's like like a face.
Speaker 7 (47:16):
Hey.
Speaker 3 (47:16):
So I was there when Chris started film Threat, so
that was a good thing. Hey, and we're out of time.
So you know what, Chris, I'm going to have you back.
I will find a schedule for maybe next week. I
will talk about that. Hey, good seeing you. And now
I recognize you because you did a great job with
Jordan's Fox, Terry Howard and Carol. I always say this,
(47:37):
have a good night tonight. If better they did tomorrow.
You see someone without a smile, please give them one
of yours on Brian Sebastian, This Is Movie reviews and more,
See the Girl in the Street and listen to slap Back.
We'll see you next week.
Speaker 2 (47:48):
Bye.
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