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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Khalila Holt. Yeah, heavyweight producer.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Uh huh?
Speaker 1 (00:08):
Dancer no, singer?
Speaker 3 (00:12):
M No?
Speaker 1 (00:13):
Did I say heavyweight producer?
Speaker 4 (00:15):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (00:16):
And today you're going to be more than just a
I shouldn't say just today. Today, you're you're going to
be presenting us with a story. Yes, I'm excited about.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
It, thank you.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
I am too, in anticipation of the season coming up
in the fall. Yes, we're going to be We're going
to be doing some smaller stories. But smaller is that
the right word, because they're they're not small and significance, they're.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Just short, kind of just shorter. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Does it? Does it feel condescending to call them mini episodes?
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Mmm?
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Lightweight?
Speaker 2 (00:52):
I think that's more condescending. Why don't we just call
it like heavyweight.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Shorts, heavyweight shorts.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
For summer, shorts for summer.
Speaker 5 (01:03):
All right, fine, let's call them heavyweight short. And you're
going to be presenting us with our inaugural heavyweight short.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Yes, today's heavyweight short, Hallie. Right after the break, Hallie
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keeps coming back to a brief interaction she had with
a stranger when she was seventeen years old. The whole
thing only lasted a few minutes, but those minutes, she says,
set the course for the rest of her life, and
the stranger has remained on her mind ever since.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
Eh, God, like once or twice a year, I think
about her.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
How long has it been now?
Speaker 6 (01:59):
This was August of twenty twelve, so it's been almost
nine years.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Nine years ago, Hallie was in high school and dating
her first serious boyfriend. She was sexually active for the
first time and becoming increasingly anxious about not being on
birth control. In health class, the teacher always said to
talk to your mom about birth control, but Halle's mom
was prone to unpredictable mood swings and could sometimes get violent.
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The two no longer spoke, so Halle lived with her dad,
a strict and religious man who believed it was morally
wrong to have sex before marriage. Hallie remembered the day
he'd seen her little sister with the guy he didn't
approve of, how he'd lifted the boy in the air
by his caller. Hallie had no older sister, no aunt
nor family friend she could call upon. Not knowing where
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else to turn, she showed up one day at a
healthcare clinic in her hometown of Whitefish Bay, Wisconsin. Her
younger sister came along for emotional support.
Speaker 6 (03:00):
Timed it so that my dad would be at work
because it's a you know, it's it's a small town.
We were worried about our car being spotted in the
parking lot. I was absolutely shitting myself. I was trembling.
I was so frightened.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
The clinic was on a busy street and had lots
of windows. Hollie felt exposed even being there. Once she
worked up the nerve to approach the woman behind the
reception desk, she began to explain her situation.
Speaker 6 (03:24):
I'm interested in getting on birth control, but it cannot
show up on any kind of billion statement because my
dad will notice. I'm sure she must have seen how
scared we were, because it was something clicked like it
was it felt like one of those It felt like
one of those moments, one of those like unspoken conversations
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that sometimes happened between women where one just recognizes the
need and another, yeah. Like she got to work, she
like started punching a bunch of stuff into the computer,
and I remember her leaving the desk at one point
to try to like ask some of the other people
on staff, like is there any way that we can
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do this, and ultimately the answer was no, because it
would violate I don't even know how many like medical
ethics laws. So I was prepared to, like at that point,
walk out and just be defeated and think about something
you know, tried.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (04:21):
I don't know what I was gonna I have no
idea what I was going to do at that point,
probably drop it.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
But the receptionist didn't drop it. She suggested calling Planned Parenthood,
and when Halle was too scared to call, the receptionist
said that she would call for her.
Speaker 6 (04:35):
And she just used the phone right there at the
office and pretended to be meet She gave them my name,
and she just like she just asked all of the
questions that I was too scared to ask, and she
made an appointment in my name.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Even though Halle's interaction with the receptionist was brief, she
offered Halle more than anyone else had. She didn't shame Halle,
betray her confidence, or judge her. She made her feel
looked after like a caring mother would.
Speaker 6 (05:02):
I went on to graduate from college and I'm now
currently living abroad pursuing my master's degree. But I just
can't help but think, you know, I know that none
of it would have been possible if I'd if I'd
gotten pregnant instead, especially then, like, oh my god, imagine
trying to deal with like a pregnancy and a very
religious father.
Speaker 4 (05:20):
Holy shit.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
And so Hallie and I are talking today because she
wants my help in finding the receptionist so she can
let her know what an impact she had.
Speaker 6 (05:29):
I want to say thank you so much for seeing
how scared I was, and for making a scary situation
manageable and just you know, holding my hand through this
and making sure that I was okay.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
I mean, she's the reason I'm okay.
Speaker 6 (05:45):
But I didn't have the I didn't have that presence
of mine to thank her.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
And what do you remember about just like what she
looked like? I'm assuming you don't remember her name.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
I don't remember her first her last name.
Speaker 6 (05:58):
No. I remember her being kind of a heavier sight,
black woman wearing scrubs, which probably won't help, you know,
but that.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
Makes sense, I think.
Speaker 6 (06:10):
I in my mind, she kind of had like long
braids that went down to like maybe down to her waist.
But that's how I've always That's how I've always remembered her,
and I don't know how much of that is embellishment,
but I would.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
I don't know why I would make any of that up.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
It's not much to go on, but I promised to
try to find the receptionist. Luckily, Hallie's sister remembers which
clinic they went to that day because it was where
their gynecologists worked. I call the clinic and explained to
a test turned man that I'm trying to find out
who worked reception in twenty twelve because a woman who
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talked to that person for a few minutes a decade
ago wants to talk to her again about something I
can't get into at the moment. Will you help me
figure out who that receptionist was, I ask? He says no.
I call back the next day, hoping I'll get someone else,
but the same man answers, and I hang up in
a panic. From there, I said in motion a series
of increasingly desperate bids for information. I patted Helie in
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from abroad to call the clinic with me. I send
her old gynecologist Facebook messages and even mail a letter
to her house, which feels uncomfortably illicit. One should no
more contact a doctor at their home, than follow an
actor backstage. In the end, none of it yields anything. Finally,
I find someone at the head office who's moved by
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Holley's story and willing to help. I give her Halle's
description of the receptionist in the year she'd have been
working the front desk, and a few weeks later, she
gets back in touch with the name Markina. I'm super nervous.
What's the thing that is making you nervous?
Speaker 6 (07:48):
I guess, I just I've been wanting to thank this
person for so long, and I guess I'm worried I'm
not going to do a good job.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
You haven't told her everything, right?
Speaker 2 (07:58):
I didn't. Yeah, I mean I told her sort of
the broad stroke. I'd spoken to Markeina, just briefly, explaining
that she'd helped a young woman named Halle long ago.
It didn't ring a bell. Still, Markina said that she
was happy to talk. Should we call? Do you feel
you feel ready?
Speaker 4 (08:15):
Yes, let's call.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
Hi.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
This is Markina Markina. Hi, It's Kalila and Hallie calling.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Hi.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
How are you? I'm good?
Speaker 7 (08:33):
How are you?
Speaker 6 (08:34):
I'm well?
Speaker 4 (08:35):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Hallie pauses trying to figure out what to say, and then,
just as she did nine years ago, she swallows her
fear and begins.
Speaker 6 (08:48):
So when I was seventeen years old, I was I
was sexually active, and I couldn't talk to my parents
about it. Me and my younger sister explain the situation, like,
we're interested in getting on birth control pills, but our
father is the type of person who goes over bills
with a fine tooth comb.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
And if you, oh my gosh, I do remember you?
Speaker 4 (09:13):
You do?
Speaker 7 (09:15):
I do remember you? Really?
Speaker 3 (09:21):
Oh, cry baby, I'm so sorry.
Speaker 4 (09:28):
You do remember this?
Speaker 5 (09:29):
Really?
Speaker 3 (09:33):
I do?
Speaker 7 (09:34):
I do?
Speaker 2 (09:35):
I do?
Speaker 7 (09:35):
And I remember calling my boss you do, that's right,
asking her.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
Like, okay, I don't want to get in trouble, but
I want to help her.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
But do you remember what you did next?
Speaker 6 (09:47):
You're even after your boss said you guys couldn't help,
because I think it would, it would have understandably violated
a bunch of ethical you still didn't stop. You called
planned parent and you made an appointment in my name.
Uh huh. And then the next the following week, I
was able to keep that appointment and I got on
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birth control, and I was Okay. I just think about
how lucky I was that you were there that day,
and I want to say thank you, thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
I have.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Daughters and I was once that scared teenager that needed help.
So I always try to be that mother.
Speaker 7 (10:38):
For someone, or that for someone, or that just someone
for someone.
Speaker 4 (10:46):
No, you were you.
Speaker 6 (10:47):
That's that's exactly what I needed, and that's exactly who
you were. It would have been so easy for you
to just after talking to your boss, to say I'm sorry,
I can't help you, but uh, I just wanted you
to know that I've never forgotten what you did, and
for the last nine years I've thought about you. I
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went on and got my bachelor's degree and I'm actually
in the middle of pursuing my master's right now, and
I have just always thought that might not have been possible.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
If I didn't get the help I needed.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Markina, what is what is the thing that you remember
like about that day? Like what is it that rang
a bell for you?
Speaker 7 (11:27):
When she said when she explained to me about her father.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
In that moment, it didn't matter about work, it didn't
matter about whatever if I was, if I was to
be rolled up, you know what, I'm taking one for
the team.
Speaker 7 (11:48):
I knew I could not just leave her be like
I had to help her because it was somebody that
helped me. My father molested me, and.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
I had no one to talk to, and I was
afraid to tell people. One day, I was walking There's
a it's a bridge on one of our streets, and
I had went through something terrible that night, I'll say that,
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and it had something to do with my father. So
that morning I decided, you know what, I'm out of here.
So I was walking over this bridge and my head
was down. I was sad, of course, and there was
this man that appeared. We were just walking past each other,
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and he stopped and he said, whatever it is, it
will be okay. You pick your head up and you
smile and you keep going. Now we're in the middle
of the bridge. I'm going one way, he's going the
opposite way. Full minute later, I turned around say thank you,
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and he was gone. So looking at her reminded me,
even though her situation was totally different, Looking at her
reminded me of how scared I used to be and
how I would reach out. It just wanted someone to help.
Speaker 6 (13:45):
Me, to hear you, to hear you talk about your past,
and now revisit that moment, knowing where you were coming from, m.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Is remarkable.
Speaker 6 (14:02):
I'm so I'm so so grateful that you saw me
that day and didn't just like see me in front
of you, but you saw what I needed and I
remember you like one of the very first things you
said was you said you were proud of me for
coming in, which was I think exactly what I needed
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to hear in that moment.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
And I'm so proud of you. Now, thank you so much.
You're welcome, You are so welcome.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Halle recently visited Whitefish Bay. She asked Martina if she
could see her, and Martina said she'd like that. She
still works for the same healthcare network, although at a
different clinic, and she told Hallie to come say hi.
During the work day, Hallie brought Markina flowers. She drove
to the clinic, walked inside the door, and didn't care
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who saw her. This Heavyweight short was produced by me
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Khalila Holt along with Stevie Lane, Moheeney mcgauker, and Jonathan Goldstein.
Special thanks to Sam Riisman, Sherry Mantz, and doctor Lynde.
Katherine Anderson mixed the episode with original music by Christine Fellows.
John K. Sampson, Blue dot Sessions, and Bobby Lord. Follow
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this fall.