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June 7, 2022 53 min
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For our first episode of this year's Pride Month, Dr. Ron Hirschberg had the privilege of sitting with Mary Gauthier. Mary is a Grammy-nominated singer-songwriter, author, a military family member and huge supporter of veterans, and a savior so many with her songs. Author of the new book Saved By A Song: The Art and Healing Power of Songwriting, and with eleven original albums out (including the brand new album Dark Enough To See The Stars which was released in early June), Mary is a prolific artist. A New Orleans native, Mary spent many years grappling spiraling with addiction, alcohol, failed relationships, and depression before discovering her gift as a songwriter. Through song, she discovered that she could express things that she was not able to express in other ways, and gained a new confidence through writing and performing. She writes about trauma and resilience, about family, alcoholism, and her “three wars” growing up – Vietnam, her parents war with each other, and the war between she and her father, who served in the Korean War. She has co-written songs with veterans through the program Songwriting with Soldiers. She writes about love, pride, and healing. In today's episode, Mary and Ron speak about trauma, about the power of music to support healing for veterans and civilians alike, about pride, openness and being a member of the LGBTQ+ community, and so much more.




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Theme music for Home Base Nation: "Rolling the tree" by The Butler Frogs

The music heard in today's episode is by Mary Gauthier, and is used with the artist's permission. In order, the songs are: "Rifles & Rosary Beads" (co-written by Mary Gauthier and US. Army Veteran Joe Costello) off 2018 album Rifles & Rosary Beads, followed by "Fall Apart World", and "Dark Enough to See the Stars", off of the just-released 2022 album Dark Enough to See the Stars.

If you have not listened already, we have an episode called Warrior-Healer February 17th, 2020, that highlights a song cowritten by one of our veteran alumni at Home Base Air Force Veteran Blair Morin and James House through Songwriting with Soldiers.

Also, Mary and I met in 2018 on a podcast I was cohosting called Above The Basement. If you are interested in a show that covers the lives and stories of musicians, check out the show Produced and Hosted by my friend Chuck Clough, which has about 200 episodes in the vault.

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