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January 26, 2026 35 mins
Reflects on the lead-up to the Patriots’ first Super Bowl, including the quirky “The Patriots and We” music video. Chronicles the game itself, where the Patriots were overwhelmed by the legendary 1985 Bears, while still honoring the season’s success.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What do you remember about the nineteen eighty five Patriots
forty years later? We're going back to tell the story
of the first Patriots team to make it to a
Super Bowl, A special team that blazed a pathway that
we much traveled over the next four decades. Here from
the players and coaches, as well as the sounds from
television and radio that defined the season, as we uncover
what made this a Patriots team to remember even if

(00:20):
they didn't win a Super Bowl championship. Annihilating might be
a better word.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
Play more cut out doing what the defense poor burgers back.
We're gonna throw a fire one the fire.

Speaker 3 (00:41):
Cut down on them, put down, hurbing player running all away,
hood cutdown eighty five yards, burning prior decent, rolling out
to the right side, avoiding the presser. I'm already brout

(01:02):
down up in the end zone. Six point shut down
hat Prian, Tony Colin look hate brand that believe.

Speaker 1 (01:11):
I Mike do so. And this is a Patriots Super
Bowl Sound Odyssey, nineteen eighty five, Episode nine, Bury the Bears.

Speaker 4 (01:17):
You've come a long way a about a year and
a half ago, this team was in disarray. You came in,
everything settled down a lot of confidence on this team.

Speaker 5 (01:24):
Now, Yeah, they have played up to their capabilities. And
I felt, like I told him yesterday, all I was
concerned about was playing like they can play, and I thought,
thanks would be all right.

Speaker 6 (01:35):
They think they played pretty good.

Speaker 4 (01:36):
But they keep doing that, you'll have a Super Bowl trophy,
all right.

Speaker 1 (01:39):
For the first time in franchise history, the Patriots were
AFC champions and headed to Super Bowl twenty. They had
made league history, becoming the first team to win three
playoff road games by knocking off the Jets, Raiders, and
Dolphins in their home stadiums. Long suffering Patriots fans finally
had something to believe in, as the region was euphoric
for their Super Bowl team in the two weeks leading
up to the big game. It was a new England

(01:59):
Patriots franchise that didn't quite know how to handle the
craziness of playing in a Super Bowl. Patriots director of
Scouting Administration Nancy Meyer, who's still with the organization after
more than half a century and has been to all
eleven Patriots super Bowls, recalled what it was like the
very first time.

Speaker 7 (02:13):
I don't think we really realized a Super Bowl was
such a big stage.

Speaker 1 (02:20):
You saw it on TV.

Speaker 7 (02:22):
But then having to you know, pack up from Foxboro,
go to New Orleans, set up offices. People were preparing
parties like we had never been to. And I mean
even how the tickets for parties was such a big deal,
and you've got to get buses and hotel rooms and

(02:46):
we had no experience with any of that.

Speaker 8 (02:49):
So the Bears and Patriots arrive in New Orleans as
first time Super Bowl participants, and it's the first time
teams from Boston and Chicago, towns rich in sports, tradition
and romance have met in the final round of any
sport since nineteen eighteen when Babe Ruth helped pitch the
Red Sox so a World Series went over the Cubs.

Speaker 7 (03:09):
Well, you know, it was so fun in the beginning
because we were in a different stadium. We didn't have
a lot of experience going to stadiums, and they gave
us all these great seats. We thought they were going
to be so awesome, We'll like in row six or something.
And we go to the stadium that day and we're
bomming around going and finding our seats, and we realized

(03:31):
Row six is so low that you can't see over
the sidelines and the players. So you know, it was
a little bit of a trickery with these seats that
seemed on paper to be so great. But I'll always
treasure that ticket. I have that ticket and it will
always just mean the world to me to have been there.

Speaker 6 (03:50):
I know you're the representative of all the people, but
the time is come as present for you to make
a choice.

Speaker 9 (03:54):
Now, who do you like the bearers of the papers?

Speaker 1 (03:56):
I think the both great teams.

Speaker 10 (03:58):
I recognize that in my position, I'm not supposed.

Speaker 11 (04:01):
To take sides.

Speaker 10 (04:02):
I have to say it's very easy though, to really
be well proud of and approving of both of these teams,
the Patriots and all that they've gone through, and starting
as they did later in the season, recovering and coming
back and being there in the Super Bowl, and at
length of time that people have.

Speaker 12 (04:20):
Waited for this.

Speaker 1 (04:21):
The Patriots players took note of how loose the bear
seemed in the lead up to the big game. Billy
Sullivan and Raymond Berry made sure everyone in the Patriots
family could be there to take in the experience.

Speaker 13 (04:30):
Among all the families ever involved in professional sports, there
has probably never been a clan quite like the Sullivans,
an indomitable strain of Irish Catholics. Their fish loyalty to
one another and ability to stir up attention. I've given
them a legendary reputation.

Speaker 1 (04:45):
The experience was really fun, you know.

Speaker 11 (04:48):
Subsequentaldis, after my dad sold the team, we ended up
in litigation with them with the NFL. And one of
the lawyers for the NFL said, well, you know, we
understand that the Super Bowl you charge, the league would
allow you and pay for you to charter a team plane,
a staff plane which would also include family members of

(05:09):
the team.

Speaker 1 (05:10):
Uh, and that would it be it?

Speaker 11 (05:12):
And this lawyer says, the way that we understand you,
you chartered a third plane, and well who.

Speaker 6 (05:19):
Was that for?

Speaker 1 (05:20):
And goes my friends? It was for my friends, you know.

Speaker 11 (05:25):
He said, they had been with me for twenty five years,
and they put up with me, and put up with
the ups and downs, and and so I wanted them
to be with me, you know.

Speaker 1 (05:33):
So that was that was his mentality. Having their families
present meant a lot to players like Tony Collins, Karen Veris,
and Steve Nelson.

Speaker 9 (05:40):
The biggest thing was I got to I got to
my family got to come to New Orleans. I'm from
a big family. I'm from a from a family of
sixteen as.

Speaker 14 (05:50):
There were nine boys and seven girls.

Speaker 9 (05:52):
And I always wanted to play in the NFL. My
older brothers, I will be out playing. It's uh and
we've been out playing in the back with my older brothers.
Then my older brothers were going inside and I would
stay outside out by myself. And Nick Kate would see
me outside playing, just catching the ball and running. They
would say, what what are you doing. I said, I'm

(06:12):
playing in the super Bowl.

Speaker 15 (06:17):
And I would do that.

Speaker 9 (06:18):
I mean, I don't know how many times I would
be out there about myself playing.

Speaker 1 (06:23):
In the super Bowl.

Speaker 9 (06:24):
That was so cool that they got My family got
the opportunity, Uh, I said, I said, look, I'm playing
in the super Bowl. That was pretty cool.

Speaker 16 (06:36):
Yeah, I mean it was you know, we're in the
super Bowl, and I mean for me, it was just
it was a new for all of us. I mean
we we hadn't been really been close before. Some of
the older guys had been, you know close with their
playoff run, but you know, most of the roster just
it was a new experience. It was in New Orleans,
a great city to have a Super Bowl and Raymond

(06:56):
Berry allowed us to you know, treat it like, you know,
bring our families in, being close with our families, you know,
go out and have a good time. But we weren't
at raw raw crazy acting. You know that the Bears were,
I mean they were loose. They were a good football team.
They had every reason to be who they are and
they didn't change. But you know, we just we we

(07:18):
didn't play up to, you know, our best that day.

Speaker 17 (07:21):
For me, it was great because my family got to
come down and enjoy the week in New Orleans, and
I had a bunch of buddies that I grew up
with in high school and college that came down and
I don't know what the policy is, but back then,
I think he could buy twenty tickets. So I was
able to buy, you know, buy all the tickets and
give it to my family and my friends. So and

(07:41):
I know they had a much better time than I did.
But it was really special.

Speaker 1 (07:45):
Yeah, the Chicago Bears represented the Patriots' biggest challenge yet.
They had gone fifteen and one and were fresh off
a shutout win over the Rams in the NFC Championship.

Speaker 18 (07:54):
We don't play either Miami or New England, but whoever
they play is going to have there.

Speaker 1 (08:01):
The Bear Bears head coach Mike Dickas said all the
right things about the Patriots after they punched their ticket
to New Orleans. It's great to play the Patriots.

Speaker 19 (08:08):
We played them the second game of the season, and
we thought at that time they were the best football
team we had seen on film coming out of the
exhibition season defensively, and I think what Ray's done there
is tremendous or a good football team with great balance,
and I think they played the game the way it's
supposed to be played. They don't do anything really spectacular,
They just do what it takes to beat you, and
I think that's a credit.

Speaker 1 (08:28):
To him and his coaching staff. Patriots head coach Raymond
Barry maintained the same focus that had gotten his team
to this point.

Speaker 12 (08:34):
There's absolutely no doubt in my mind that this is
exactly where I'm supposed to be. I have no doubt
about that, and that makes all the difference. That's the
whole foundation in it. So I've got a job to do,
I've got a fantastic carry out, and my nature is
also I don't know one way to do something, and
that's all out.

Speaker 1 (08:53):
Veterans like Steve Nelson had been waiting over a decade
for this opportunity, and after three straight road playoff wins,
they held a true belief that they were going to
do it again.

Speaker 17 (09:01):
I think I think we had a real confidence that
we're going to win the game. Yeah, And I think
it was, like you mentioned, all the combination of a
lot of things, you know, the two previous playoff games,
and I think we just we knew, we knew what
we had to do, and we had to shut down
Duper and Clayton, and we did, and we That was

(09:24):
the most important game obviously, the highlight of my career,
you know, AFC Championship and everything else, and going to
the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 (09:30):
Turnovers of the name of the game.

Speaker 6 (09:32):
They have led the AFC enforcing turnovers and during the
playoffs they've forced an incredible total of sixteen turnovers which
have resulted in sixty one points. Perhaps the most critical
player for them Andre Tippett, outside the line back, then the.

Speaker 1 (09:46):
Rest of the team like All Pro John Hannah, second
year Pro Bowl Punk return of Irving Friar, and thousand
yard rusher Craig James said the magnitude of the game
and the extended Super Bowl pre game schedule were a challenge.

Speaker 20 (09:56):
I think we've played a lot of games and beat
a lot of games with a lot more talent than
us because we wanted to win more than they did,
Whereas and there was a certain amount of intensity that
went into it. Well, if the super Bowl you can't

(10:16):
keep an intensity level up for four or five hours
like the super Bowl is, you know, you can only
keep it up for a limited time, and I think
that hurt us. You know, you got to kind of
go into a super Bowl game kind of relax more
than you do with when you play it in just
a normal game. Or that's why it was when replay

(10:37):
of all the games that I played in, it was
just not the same tempo.

Speaker 21 (10:42):
I think we realized with the super Bowl and we
made too big of a deal. You don't can hear
people say all the time when they're playing games, particularly
big games, just treat it like it's another game. We
didn't treat it like it was another game. We treated
it like we win the super Bowl. Wow, win the
super Bowl. Okay, we can't do this, we can't do that,
can't do.

Speaker 22 (11:00):
This going back and looking looking at the moments of
that leading up to that game, I wish I had
known how long the pregame was about all of the stuff.
I mean, we knew coming out of the AFC Championship
game the next week here in Foxville. The number of
media attention was phenomenal. I mean, it was cameras everywhere,
so we knew that was there. We had great confidence

(11:23):
that we were going to go down there and run
the football.

Speaker 1 (11:25):
The pregame was also a full circle moment for rookie
gart Verus would worked at Super Bowl nineteen exactly one
year earlier.

Speaker 16 (11:31):
I was a senior. The year before I was with
the Patriots. I was at Stanford University. I was a
senior and the Super Bowl was actually played in Stanford Stadium,
and was I actually worked.

Speaker 1 (11:44):
The sideline of that Super Bowl.

Speaker 16 (11:46):
I was on the sideline as a security guard for
the Miami Dolphin bench for Super Bowl nineteen, and then
to you know, next year, be a starter in the
Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 (11:57):
Playing in the Super Bowl for me, I mean was.

Speaker 23 (11:59):
Just it was a year.

Speaker 1 (12:01):
The Patriots had lost to the Bears twenty to seven
in Week two and hung with them as well as
anybody had in nineteen eighty five, except for the Dolphins,
who used a pass heavy attack with Dan Marino to
hang thirty eight points on Chicago.

Speaker 24 (12:11):
The offense was not spectacular. It was functional, with about
three or four big plays all day long. It was
totally the Chicago Bear defense just stifling, absolutely stifling, and
the wa went Patriots.

Speaker 1 (12:25):
The Patriots had tried a similar approach in Week two,
but Easton completed just fifteen of thirty five passes while
throwing three interceptions and taking six sacks. However, the defense
hung tough against Walter Payton, Jim McMahon and a Bears
offense that would finish the year ranks second in points
and first in rushing attempts, rushing yards, and rushing touchdowns.
Steve Nelson and Andre Tippett said, despite the earlier loss,

(12:46):
the Patriots had confidence.

Speaker 17 (12:47):
We had played them during the regular season and got
beat but we played them pretty tough, and I think
that gave us the confidence that we could beat them,
you know, after the previous three weeks. We played, you know,
really sound football and turnover wise, we didn't turn the
ball over and but they were.

Speaker 1 (13:04):
The Bears were a special team that year. They really were,
and they just had they had it all going. You know,
it was like, all right, we we we wasn't there,
We wasn't messing.

Speaker 25 (13:14):
So nobody's paying attention to NFC what the Chicago Bears
are doing.

Speaker 1 (13:18):
So we see them as that team. We're gonna get them.
We're gonna we're gonna.

Speaker 25 (13:23):
Play a little bit better than we did the second
game of the season.

Speaker 1 (13:25):
The Patriots were underdogs, but they had come too far
and won too many road games to blink. Now they'd
already avenged three of their regular season losses in the playoffs,
and we're aiming to make it one more.

Speaker 15 (13:35):
Vince Lombardi Trophy that waited either the eighteen and one
Chicago Bears or the wild card is New England Patriots.

Speaker 24 (13:43):
I think everybody feys real good.

Speaker 20 (13:44):
You know, we're playing a very fine football team and
you got to play your best to hear so chance
were a challenge.

Speaker 26 (13:50):
The curtain is about to pull, and Super Bowl twenty
will play to this enthusiastic audience in New Orleans. They
are least seventy four thousand fans srrow.

Speaker 1 (14:00):
The stage is colorfully.

Speaker 26 (14:01):
Set for the NFL's top two companies. The Chicago Bears
and the New England.

Speaker 1 (14:07):
Patriots January twenty sixth, nineteen eighty six, the Louisiana Superdome,
Super Bowl twenty Patriots versus Bears. At last, the big
game had arrived.

Speaker 14 (14:16):
And you play your whole career for a shot at
at the Super Bowl. You don't play it, you know,
you don't play it for you know the times you
won the AFC East, or you know the time you
beat a particular team you play. You know, there's thirty
two teams and they're all in at the same goal,
and that was to win the Super Bowl and to
be there and have a shot at it really really

(14:41):
was pretty meaningful.

Speaker 1 (14:42):
Patriots had gotten to the Super Bowl by forcing sixteen
takeaways in three playoff games, and they're starting Super Bowl twenty.
Made it a peer that the formula would continue against
the Bears at drill us all And.

Speaker 2 (14:54):
Who is the New England Patriots do? And that's just
that pattern? Are they under from New England forcing the
turnovers sixteen of them in the first three playoff games?
And the underdogs have come up with a big break today.

Speaker 1 (15:10):
Walter Payton's fumble forced by rookie Garon Veris just two
plays into the game, set up the Patriots at the
Bear's nineteen yard line with the chance to take an
early lead.

Speaker 16 (15:18):
Probably the highlight of my career I know, was on
the second play of the game to be able to
make Walter Payton fumble and led to us getting the
field goal out.

Speaker 1 (15:26):
To me, I mean, I was sky high.

Speaker 16 (15:28):
I was a rookie making Walter Payton, of all people,
one of the best running backs, to hit him and
make him fumble. To me was I didn't think about
it at the time, but afterwards it was a big
event for me.

Speaker 1 (15:41):
The Patriots bypassed their run game and came out throwing
as they had in Week two. The first pass spelling complete,
but it was a devastating play for New England as
tight end Lin Dawson went down with a knee injury
that would put him out for the game.

Speaker 2 (15:52):
Tony's and play action fake, He's going to go for
the quick score throwing first tight end in complete, Lynn Dawson,
number eighty seven, and he may have been injured on
the play.

Speaker 22 (16:03):
And when Lynn Dawson got hurt and took away one
of our tight ends first down, when we couldn't go
too tight and run the football. They would have stopped
us two out of four times, but those other two
times we'd have got them and we've been we'd have
been a much better game, different game. Uh, don't take
anything from Chicago Bears. They were a great team, had
the unique defense, the four to six, They had the
right personalities in place for all of that.

Speaker 26 (16:25):
Lynn Dawson and obviously a serious injury. The Patriots have
only two tight ends Dawson and Ramsey.

Speaker 1 (16:33):
In many cases like to.

Speaker 26 (16:35):
Use two tight ends, especially with that forty six defense
of the Bears, that really handicaps them.

Speaker 11 (16:40):
That injury had a big impact on our guys because
it was pretty it was a really significant knee injury
and he was on the ground for a long time,
which I think had a big impact on our guys
because Lynn was exceptionally popular leader on our team.

Speaker 1 (16:54):
After Dawson exited, the Patriots kept throwing and their second
pass looked like it was going to be an easy score,
but Stanley Morgan had a rare drop that gave running
back Robert Weathers a bad premonition ason.

Speaker 2 (17:04):
Over the middle to Morgan threw his hands and he
had a touchdown. Mike Singletary the middle linebacker may have
gotten the piece of the ball in flight.

Speaker 24 (17:13):
Stanley Morgan never drops the balls one sure, and he
comes across and had that slant hits.

Speaker 11 (17:21):
Him grind the chest and he drops it and I'm like, okay,
I'm not liking his.

Speaker 1 (17:26):
By the Patriots settled for a three zero lead, missing
an early chance to take advantage of a rare Bear's mistake.
It's on its way and New England has the early leage.
Chicago had the fourth fewest giveaways in the league in
nineteen eighty five, but it appeared early on that the
game might unfold in a similar way to the Patriots'
previous playoff wins, where they took control of the game
by forcing consistent turnovers.

Speaker 2 (17:46):
Peyton's bubble turns into early points for the Patriots.

Speaker 1 (17:50):
The early opportunities continued for New England, but they just
weren't able to make Chicago pay. On the Bear's next possession,
Don Blackman just missed out on an interception that might
have gone for a pick six.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
And complained almost intercepted by Don Blackman. It was intended
for the tight end Emery moorehead and Blackman had a
hand on it.

Speaker 18 (18:07):
Blackman a co MVP last week along with Fred Merrion.
You see him saying I could have had six.

Speaker 23 (18:15):
With that one.

Speaker 11 (18:16):
I think there are a couple of critical plays really
early in the game. One was Donnie Blackman deflexa pass
and can almost waltz in for a pick six right,
but he drops it right and that would have made
a ten zip.

Speaker 1 (18:32):
The Bears drive continued, but the Patriots defense stopped them
inside the red zone thanks to a big hit by
Ronnie Lapett on Jim McMahon that forced a field goal attempt.
The twenty eight yarder was good and the Super Bowl
was all tied up three to three. Man likes to run.

Speaker 2 (18:45):
He's got an avenue the ten yard line by Ronnie Lopet.

Speaker 27 (18:50):
Oh my McMahon was coming and I had to make
it go. I hit him up top and do a
cut him, and knowing me, what I like to do.

Speaker 22 (19:02):
Is cut him.

Speaker 27 (19:03):
I cut him and he came down on his head.

Speaker 28 (19:06):
Man, and I didn't understand why their guys came to
hit me. You know, the big lineman came up and
pushed me down. I'm like, I'm ready to fight, and
Andrei and Rolan's coming up.

Speaker 1 (19:20):
Man, that's what they hit that d was. I'm like, okay, okay, great,
what did I do?

Speaker 8 (19:24):
You know?

Speaker 18 (19:25):
Man literally flies into the air after that hit and
some of the Bears offensive lineman up there quickly to
try and protect their quarterback.

Speaker 1 (19:37):
After three straighting completions on the Patriots first possession, He's
in threw two more on their second time with the ball,
and then took his first sack of the day on
third down. The Patriots punted it back to the Bears,
but once again the defense would make things tough on Chicago,
with Blackman nearly picking off another pass.

Speaker 2 (19:53):
Man under pressure.

Speaker 1 (19:55):
Intended for Peyton. Man, there's Blackman again.

Speaker 26 (19:58):
That's two times that this linebacker from Tulsa has had
his hands on a possible intercept.

Speaker 1 (20:05):
If the Payton that's a player. That's the Patriots have
you as well.

Speaker 2 (20:08):
In the playoffs, Andre Tippett on the back of Peyton
after a short yardage and the Bears will have to kick.

Speaker 1 (20:14):
Patriots defense forced their first punt of the game, while
the offense tried their luck with the running game after
Easton's first six passes were all incomplete.

Speaker 4 (20:21):
Well, now, you guys are known for a running team basically,
but you came in the game and all the first
few plays were passing plays.

Speaker 5 (20:27):
What was that strategy? Well, I wanted to establish the
fact that we need to throw the ball. I didn't
think we could come into the game and cram the
ball down the Bear's throat and getting our passing game going.
I thought it was really important to get some balance
back in our offense.

Speaker 1 (20:41):
Craig James Will stopped for no gain on the first
play the third possession, and when Easton dropped back on
second down, the turnover parade began to dramatically alter how
the game was unfolding.

Speaker 2 (20:49):
The Patriots a running team, have done nothing but pass
in this first quarter, and so it is.

Speaker 1 (20:54):
And he sent re lead it.

Speaker 2 (20:57):
He was sacked six times and a second game of
the year by the Bear defense. He's now for the
first time today.

Speaker 1 (21:03):
The Bears took over at the New England thirteen, but
the valiant Patriots defense continued to battle, getting a second
red zone stop and holding the Bears to another field
goal that made it six to three.

Speaker 26 (21:12):
And the Patriots are running team.

Speaker 1 (21:13):
They only threw it twelve times against Miami. In the
championship games, They've thrown.

Speaker 26 (21:17):
It at all six times they've had the ball so
far in this one.

Speaker 18 (21:19):
Raymond Barry said he would not be predictable today. Indeed,
he's come hot and broken all of the bowls and
all of the tendencies that he'd established in the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (21:28):
The Patriots defense keyed on Hall of Fame running back
Walter Payton, and the Bears began to utilize physical fullback
Matt Sue and even William the Refrigerator Perry, who attempted
an early pass.

Speaker 2 (21:37):
It's Perry's gonna turn the ball, no night decide, I'll
try to run through people, and he doesn't get very far.
So they unplugged the court on the refrigerator and we've
got a little extra curricular activity.

Speaker 1 (21:50):
The red zone stop was an early victory for the
Patriots defense, but the offense couldn't rally off the momentum.
Craig James fumbled on the very next play on the
ground at.

Speaker 26 (21:58):
Craig James in the backfield and a five all and the.

Speaker 2 (22:03):
Bears having again the.

Speaker 1 (22:05):
Defense went back onto the field again deep in their
own territory. This time, it would take Chicago just two
running plays with Sue to get the game's first touchdown.
Don Blackman was.

Speaker 13 (22:13):
Off side, so he is hitting me in time for
a touchdown.

Speaker 2 (22:17):
The flag is down, but unless Blackman was drawn off side,
Chicago has.

Speaker 1 (22:22):
Six more two Patriots turnovers, thirteen on answered points. The
Bears were often running and the Patriots hopes of a
win rapidly fading, hanging by a thread. The offense pitched
another three and out and the Bears would respond with
their best drive of the day, with fullback Suie continuing
to dominate with a twenty four yard catch, then three
straight carries the total eleven yards. McMahon followed the fridge

(22:43):
into the end zone and the blowout was on. But
just under eight minutes left in the second quarter, the
Bears were up twenty to three. Twenty to three.

Speaker 2 (22:51):
The Chicago Bears laid it with six minutes and fifty
seconds remaining in the first half, and the Patriots are
still in the Minus Bowl without a first down.

Speaker 1 (23:00):
He said, we'll get one last chance, but once again
it was a three and out with another sack. Chicago's
front was a nightmare, and he said was under siege.
Is running back Craig James and receiver Cedric Jones saw
first hand. Without an extra tight end to block or
throw to. The Patriots offense could not get anything going
against the Bears on the ground or through the air.

Speaker 22 (23:17):
Bobby Greer, my running back coach at the time, he said, hey,
what are you saying? I said, I think they got
one more guy than here.

Speaker 1 (23:23):
We got fifteen guys out over there, right, But.

Speaker 22 (23:27):
They were closed, they were hunkered down, and if you
wanted to throw out the football, which it wanted you
to do, you couldn't block them. They were gonna have
somebody get to your quarterback. You didn't have the normal
two point nine seconds. You were gonna get sacked. You
had to get rid of it. And so then therefore
that's why you had to have the two tight run
at pound them man on man, let's go. But then
they have an extra man in the box. Well that

(23:48):
was going to be up to the running backs. Then
we had to take care of that extra guy.

Speaker 29 (23:52):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (23:52):
It just never got to that point.

Speaker 23 (23:54):
That pe felt right. We had eleven on offense and
they had twenty two or defense.

Speaker 1 (23:58):
That's my story.

Speaker 23 (23:58):
I was taking way they had u some we angled
and we probably didn't play. You know, we didn't play
as well as we could have.

Speaker 1 (24:04):
And when I look back at it.

Speaker 23 (24:05):
We were a little tired, you know, all those games
in the road, traveler packing up, going to La stm
for a week, coming back, you know, going to Miami
for a week, and then we had a week off
and practicing came to New or So I think we're
a little tight and real little guests.

Speaker 1 (24:17):
Even All Pro linebacker Andre Tippet could see how dominant
this Bear's defense was.

Speaker 25 (24:21):
And still you don't know how powerful that defense is
until you're on the field at the Super Bowl and
you're looking and you're watching what's happening out there, and
our team is getting destroyed, and it's just the Bears
are willing their soul on us, and they're just they're

(24:43):
just like Katie bar the door, put the women and
children away because they're ravaging and pillaging and killing. And
that's what they did to us.

Speaker 1 (24:55):
They and it was like, I take my hat off
to them. They that year old.

Speaker 25 (25:00):
Everybody said that year, I don't even think a all
star team put together the National Football League that could
compete against that that defense, the way they played.

Speaker 1 (25:13):
Two plays later, the Patriots got one final chance to
make it a game when Matt Suey fumbled and Raymond
Claiborne recovered with the offense going backwards, Barry inserted Steve Grogan,
and New.

Speaker 2 (25:26):
England has that at the forty six yard line. So
the Patriots get a right.

Speaker 6 (25:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (25:31):
So he didn't appear that he was hit. Might have
been changing the ball and Steve Nelson was there to.

Speaker 18 (25:36):
Make sure that it rocked frames. I'm not so sure
that Easton and that offense. I want to go back out.
Grogan's out there.

Speaker 2 (25:43):
Steve Grogan, the veteran from Kansas State, laying on me
that has hardly one hundred percent.

Speaker 1 (25:49):
It was Grogan's first appearance since breaking his leg against
the Jets in week twelve, when he had led the
Patriots on a six game win streak after Easton was
lost to injury. Grogan had been the spark to turned
the season around, and now the Patriots were asking him
to pull off the near impossible to turn the Super
Bowl around against the historic team already up by seventeen
points complaints at the.

Speaker 2 (26:08):
Collins Antony Collins was into Bears territory with the first
New England completion. It comes with four minutes and fifty
seconds left in the first half.

Speaker 1 (26:19):
Grogan got the Patriots' first completion on his second attempt,
and James picked up the first down on his second completion,
and suddenly the Patriots had a first down and were
near midfield. It was just a brief glimpse of who
the nineteen eighty five Patriots were at their best, if
but only for a fleeting moment, as Grogan's next two
passes fell in complete and the Patriots were punting for
a fourth time. Chicago added another field goal to make

(26:41):
it twenty three to three at halftime.

Speaker 25 (26:43):
It was the first half, as he said, in which
New England had opportunities earlier in the half, and then
of course the Chicago defense just took over and dominated.

Speaker 1 (26:52):
In the second half. The floodgates fully opened and the
route was on.

Speaker 2 (26:55):
But man rolls in Summer falled six and the lead
twenty nine to three, and intercept it for.

Speaker 18 (27:04):
A touchdown the rookie Renchie.

Speaker 2 (27:06):
Phillips complete, and then a fuggle and the Bears having
again Wilbur Marshall at the forty. Marshall laterals Wilson hello
and Finny Wilson down at the thirty eight, and they're
playing playground with the Patriots now carry that would register

(27:27):
at three point eight. Another Super Bowl wrecker, the first
refrigerator to score.

Speaker 25 (27:34):
Head just chopping and cutting and grabbing and snatching and
killing our quarterback and killing the running back. And it
was like, oh my god, somebody cut somebody. Somebody get
in front of somebody and swow them up.

Speaker 12 (27:49):
Patriot quarterbacks were not the problem.

Speaker 1 (27:51):
Oh, Chicago's forty six defense was.

Speaker 15 (27:55):
Buddy Ryan had created the most devastating defense in Super
Bowl history.

Speaker 29 (28:00):
When you talk about the forty six, you're talking about pressure.

Speaker 30 (28:02):
That's what we're really all about.

Speaker 1 (28:04):
It just get the pressure that we're trying to apply.

Speaker 12 (28:07):
Basically, it's a seven man fund and you always have
at least six guys coming in.

Speaker 1 (28:13):
I was in awe of it.

Speaker 3 (28:14):
I really was.

Speaker 25 (28:15):
I'm like, that is sweet, I said, I've never heard
of forty six defense. And after that I got the
book on forty six defense and I just started watching
that and studying that. I said, and this is amazing
that they had the right talent at every position to
pull off that forty six defense and make it what
it was for that year.

Speaker 1 (28:34):
The Patriots would post a touchdown early in the fourth quarter,
but it was too little, too late, and the air.

Speaker 2 (28:39):
Fans don't want their team to give up a touchdown,
but they get it Irving Pryor. First time they thrown
to him today and Pryor, what does the Patriots totally touchdown?

Speaker 1 (28:51):
The Bears would cap it off with a safety, a
final exclamation point on a blowout win.

Speaker 15 (28:55):
Safety made the final score forty six ten, leading the
Patriots to cut and played their role in the most
lopsided game in Super Bowl history.

Speaker 1 (29:04):
New England had their chances early in the game, and
it initially looked like they continue to dominate the turnover
battle and win because of it. But in the biggest game,
the takeaways dried up well. The Patriots giveaways reared their
ugly head for the first time all postseason. After being
plus twelve on turnovers through three playoff games, the Pats
were minus four in the Super Bowl.

Speaker 16 (29:23):
You know, one of the first things that we did
at practice was the defensive lineman, quarterbacks, running back, defensive back,
whatever position you played, you started off by recovering fumbles
and you know, the defense was always punching the ball
out or stripping the ball. That was the main thing
that Coach Barry taught and that's that's what got us there.
And if we were to continue to get six against

(29:45):
the Bears, who knows what it would have happened. That
we could have been right in there. But it didn't happen,
and you know, we lost the game, and that was
a big thing that helped us get there to the
Super Bowl.

Speaker 5 (29:57):
And I'm really proud of our football team. They've just
to come so darn far over such a hard road
this year and played as consistent football as any team
I've ever been around. And I just don't think there
was one more darned thing we could have done today.

Speaker 1 (30:12):
The final score, Bears forty six Patriots ten, was a
stunning end to a special season and a Super Bowl
loss that would overshadow what had been the most successful
Patriots season in team history. Forty years later, the Patriots
players could joke about the losses impact.

Speaker 14 (30:26):
I've heard it described that. You know, one of the
greatest comebacks of Super Bowl history occurred January twenty fifth,
nineteen eighty six, when the Chicago Bears, finding themselves down
three to nothing with only with only fifty nine minutes
to go in the game, storm back and one.

Speaker 1 (30:45):
I mean, it's a Super Bowl, this is the main game,
you know, and they were.

Speaker 27 (30:51):
They were coming out.

Speaker 29 (30:52):
It's pretty hard, you know. Our guys, man, they were
beat up. People don't know this, but our offensive line
was pretty beat up. And but we held as much
as we can.

Speaker 23 (31:03):
But gang at fifty and every you know, January, when
they show the highways to all the Super Bowls, I'm
hoping that score is going to chain us.

Speaker 10 (31:11):
Well.

Speaker 25 (31:12):
I still hate going through airport when I go to
Chicago to visit my oldest daughter. I still walk around
my fist balled up because I just know somebody's gonna
yell out.

Speaker 3 (31:21):
You know.

Speaker 1 (31:21):
Super Bowl twenty we kicked y'all ass.

Speaker 16 (31:24):
Looking at it overall, I mean, we had a great season,
had a bad day that day, and it was something
to learn from and I don't have any regrets about it.
We went out there, played hard. So many guys played
so hard all season long. I hated for us to
end it that way. But I love the guys and
we love each other because of that that team and

(31:45):
we had nothing to hang our heads about a bad game,
and you know, we were there.

Speaker 17 (31:51):
I'm still really proud of that team and being a
part of the team again. We they're a much better
team than were that day, so that happens. But you know,
I'm just I'm just proud to be on that team
and it was great to play in that game. You know,
it's deciding who the best team in the world is,
so football team, so that was a thrill.

Speaker 1 (32:14):
Nineteen eighty five Special teams coach Dante Scarnekia, who would
be a part of all but one of the Patriots
next ten trips to the Super Bowl, used his experience
to put it in perspective of how hard it is
to win the last one.

Speaker 30 (32:25):
You have to really put the excitement of what's going
on to the side, even though you're hearing it from everywhere.

Speaker 1 (32:34):
Every game gets bigger, and there's not there's not enough people.

Speaker 30 (32:43):
That stopped coming up here and pat you on the
back and telling you how great this isn't how.

Speaker 1 (32:49):
Much fun it is.

Speaker 30 (32:50):
It's really obvious, but you know, you have to get
beyond that and stay grounded and keep your focus on
what is really poor and assume nothing. Assume that you
know everything's going to click or everything that that happened
really good for you in one game is going to

(33:12):
be the same in the next game. It just doesn't
work that way without you know, being concentrated, you know,
great concentration, everybody working hard, everybody practiced in the same
way and not getting too enamored with yourselves, and I
you know, that's pretty much how that team, you know,
took it all. And you know, it's sad that it

(33:35):
didn't carry over to the last game, but that was
an awful That was one of the great football teams
of all time, you know, the eighty five eighties fixed pairs.

Speaker 1 (33:44):
It wasn't the ending the Patriots won it, but it
was still a season to remember. They were the first
Patriots seemed to win a playoff game in the NFL,
A team that got revenge on the Raiders, a team
that won in Miami for the first time in almost
two decades, a team that won an AFC champion hip,
and a team that showed the New England Patriots could
make it to the Super Bowl.

Speaker 14 (34:06):
Sixty five.

Speaker 2 (34:07):
God, what a thing if you read that was Craig
James got three in that secondary.

Speaker 1 (34:11):
And none of those guys could catch him back.

Speaker 24 (34:13):
Azisa look at the throw and he sends.

Speaker 25 (34:15):
It deep down the mental He's got a receiver.

Speaker 3 (34:17):
U Clee Lanley Malcom touts down still go brothers had bus.

Speaker 1 (34:22):
Out forty five, forty twenty one.

Speaker 24 (34:25):
He's got.

Speaker 1 (34:27):
Withers looking for a block.

Speaker 6 (34:29):
He's up over the twenty twenty five cuts through.

Speaker 1 (34:31):
Over the thirty down of the forty.

Speaker 3 (34:32):
He's a good field.

Speaker 1 (34:33):
He's on the fly down the right sideline.

Speaker 3 (34:35):
Oh god, I think he's gonna go all the way
to the fifteen to the kent five pairs rurbing player
running it all the way, good.

Speaker 29 (34:40):
Touchdown eighty five yards curbing.

Speaker 1 (34:44):
Prior, the Patriots would return to the Super Bowl again
and again, but it started here with a special team
that made Patriots fans believe Craig James traced the roots
of success back to nineteen eighty five.

Speaker 22 (34:55):
So think about Bob Craft. I'm sure he was a
Patriots fan of the nineteen eighty five team. He's watching
this organization do that and gets almost there to a
world championship, a super Bowl, and then he has the
money and the ability to come in and buy it.
It had an impact on him. So it impacted the
family of Patriot fans, organization players. When they come through

(35:18):
here and they go through the Hall of Fame, they
see what's on those walls in there, and it started
in nineteen eighty five.

Speaker 1 (35:23):
We got there, we knocked on the door, and I'm
very very proud of that.

Speaker 18 (35:26):
For New England, it was a Cinderella story, only it
ended at twelve o'clock. There was no prints.

Speaker 1 (35:33):
Next time on the nineteen eighty five Patriots Super Bowl
Sound Odyssey, it's the series finale, so we take a
look at the legacy of this Patriots team and how
their impact continued to be felt through the next four decades.
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