May 22, 2025 • 12 mins
As Katie's girls get older, it's a tough one to balance treating them a bit older along with responsibility one minute and reminding them they're still kids the next. What she's decided to do is just get a bit stricter!
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Appod Shape Production. Welcome back to you another episode about
my Bad Mum podcast. And we're on Instagram too. At
(00:29):
am I a bad Mum. We're trying to get the
Facebook back up.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
And running uns.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
On my to do list for today is update Facebook
and just activate life through Facebook again.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Technology is not our strong point. We've been very clear
on this. When we're in the zone.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
We're pretty good at socials, but I feel like this
is for all moms. I feel like we need a
day to do life admin, to get shit done. Even
on the way into work today, right, I caught up
and I made an appointment.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
For my dog to have a dental check.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
It's that type of shit you just don't do. I
like the dog's breath stinks, she's obviously got some sort
of rotten we haven't cleaned the teeth in ten years.
I'm like, we neglecting this poor dog. We just spent
seven thousand dollars hats on an operation for the cat
so he didn't die, and we don't even really.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Like that cat. Imagine if that's it.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
I just spent you know, two grand on that kid.
I don't even really like that kid of mine.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
Could you imagine that's not even my favorite.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
A lie abad mum before being the one they hate.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
No, I am that person.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
There's always one person within the parenting dynamic that has.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
To be the bad guy, hold that flag. It's annoying.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Like we've spoken about this before about not in every situation,
but often Dad's the fun one.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
I find it a bit of a cop out sometimes
that dads get to continually be the role where kids
just love dad because Dad is the fun one and
dad's like us because dad's funny and.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
The rules aren't normally as strict and little things like
Dad will be the one that goes well just get
Macius Bricky on the way to school. I'm like, I'm
the strict one. They take the piss out of me, right,
soel I know I get the same thing through that,
But this particular situation is unrealistic and I'm being.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
The realistic person. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
So, as we know, my girls are obsessed with Billie
Eilish all concerts. To be honest, at the.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Moment, I was gonna say, I don't know, I was
thinking about this when we're talking. Is it just Billy
or is it just concerts? I know Billy is the
number one but like they seem to be fatting overgoing
to concerts. Yeah, so it could be anyone, but Billy is.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Billy's the idols favorite. Anything she does, any release, new merch,
we have to buy it, Like I have to reduce
access to their bank accounts so they don't or Amelia
in particular, so she doesn't just buy shit because money
burns a hole in her pocket.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
She gets it, she spends it.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
They woke up the other morning and she had announced
more concert dates. Now these aren't concert dates in Australia. Rage,
these are not Brisbane concert dates that they've announced.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Yeah, like, oh my goodness, she's.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Coming back to Brisbane. We can get a ticket for
the show. No, No, these are in San Francisco.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Oh wonderful. Yeah, I mean that's around the corner.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Yeah, we were looking at not long ago if I'm correct,
didn't get those missed down on those now.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
The problem is, as we know with tickets, is that
when they go on sale, you have to be super
quick because they sell out for these big artists.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Also, San fran you've got a few more people to
go up against, not saying Britain and Sydney, Melbourne at
like any easier, but your numbers are outnumbered in America
even more.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Now, for anybody with a full time job to go,
We're going to go to San Francisco in six months
time is a stretch. You need real flight, accommodation, spending money.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
This is in addition to tickets.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Now, my girls seemed to think that they are going
to San Francisco in six months time and they want
to buy the tickets for the concert this week. Now.
The problem is is that I'm so wild before. It's
that fine line between being realistic going that's absolutely not
(05:10):
going to happen yea, and crushing their dreams and being
the bad one. This morning I was texting Holly and
I was getting messages.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
You're getting sprayed, like.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
What the hell have we been saving our money for?
You said that we can go for our dreams. Blah
blah blah blah blah. I've been saving up. I wanted
to go to London. You said, no, it's school holidays.
It's a flight with no stopovers. And I sent a
text back and I started off nice and I said, Darling,
(05:44):
I don't want to be a Debbie Downer, but there
is no way we can all go to San Francisco
in six months time. It's over six thousand dollars in flights,
around fifteen hundred in accommodation. Because you can't just go
to San Francisco for two days travel spending money tickets
unless we win lotto. We are not going, and you
two aren't going by yourself.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Yeah, you're not coming.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
I don't care. I'm buying them. This is what we've
been saving for. It's not six thousand dollars. We're gonna
go there by ourselves. All of this stuff is coming
back at me because I am the bad one. I
just want It's a hard no. I ended up going.
It's a hard no. Yeah, I'm not going to say
it's just go by yourself.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
I know.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
I don't know if this is a twin thing, Rachel,
whether this is just siblings. Do you ever have moments
where your girls are both on side because they both
want something, Yeah, yeah, and they both attack you.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Yeah, they come at you, yeah yeah, and then you
just give them that spray of like, mate, there's two
of you and want to meet, Like, this is unfair.
If we're in a fight right now, this is unfair.
This is a disadvantage, This is a disadvantage and I've
still gonn to whoop the.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Asses and it's elder abuse. It's abuse, it's abuse.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
I one hundred percent I'm with you, like I was
saying to you though, Like as this started to Unford,
I would always like, apart from the fact that you're
their parents, you're the one that is going to be
footing their costs for the flights because there's no way
they can. It's unrealistic of them to think that they're
going to a be able to pay for all of
this on their own back. Like if you want me
(07:20):
to do some quick maths, how much do they earn
a week? Like at Macas. I mean, Holly doesn't even
like working, so she doesn't really go to maccas too often.
Amelia doesn't mind a bit of cash coming in. They like,
this is the unrealistic part of it. You know, when
you're eighteen, go for God, spend your money however you want,
(07:40):
travel whenever you want. But until then, what's going to
happen is your passport looks like this, your date of
birth is on there, and unless you've got my approval
to say that you're flying internationally. I think in her
head she's just like we're just popping over down to
Sydney for an hour. The no, no, you're not Sam
Fran and camping out in San Fran waiting for your
(08:03):
tickets like going to be the same as sleeping at
Boondle in my car, Like it's just not the same.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
And they haven't even thrown in the exchange rate for America.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Everything's everything, everything right now is double. It's so funny.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
I love the way that their brains work, and I
don't want to be the person also like you, that
goes squash your dreams.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Dreams have to be achievable. Number one.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
Dreams have to be somewhat of a stepping stone of
understanding realistic components to it. Because this one needs realistic
components to it. I am this age. I need this
person to trouble with me or their approval like this
shit like that that's in this.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
So as much as you feel really.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
Bad right now, like I get it, I get it,
but I think you're doing the right thing.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Yeah, I'd stick with it. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
The other thing is, you know, another concert will come
to town and they'll be so excited about that.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
It's more realistic to get them to buy a lotto ticket.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Yeah, and then and.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
Think about how good to say you bought a ticket
to Billie Eilish in San Francisco.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
But how the hell are you going to get there?
Because like, let's think about this.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
But also they're planning out how long they've got until November?
We got six months? Well, no, you can't leave flights
till the last minute. They give me so much more experence.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
I know that's right because they think they're going to Sydney.
San Franz is not Sydney. Girlfriend. Also, I got a
bit of backlash the other day, and it was similar
to this right where I've told you before. I make
Gracie iron her uniform and she goes, why do you
have to be this? Because she was tired, she was angry,
(09:43):
she was aggressive. Why can't you just iron my And
I looked at her and I was like, because.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
This is real life, this is real life. Do your
own to walk away from that, KD. I was like,
what a shit mom.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
But the other day and another argument off the back
of that, because she was so angry about ironing her stuff, she.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Got angry at me about I just want you to
be my friend.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Ah.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
I looked at her, I said, I know, I said,
and I really want to be just your friend. I
was like, but I haven't been given that role in
this lifetime. I'm your mother, so then therefore I need
to be your mother. And I hope at the end
of it week can have an amazing friendship because you'll
be a wonderful human being. I said, but right now,
if I don't be true to this part of being
(10:30):
your mother, it's not going to work. Yep, you won't
want to be friends with me because you'll question why
I didn't be a mother to you when you were
this age.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
But that will come later, yeah forty Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
I was like, that'll come later. But I got that,
why are we worry you have to be so strict?
I was confused, Katie, You're in the same ball with this.
The girls just want you.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
To yeah, and they don't want the discipline. However, I
have also noticed that if there are no boundaries, that's
not comfortable for them either.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
So Holly had a moment of saying to me, there
was this party they were invited to and she didn't
want to go, and Amelia really did want to go,
and Holly didn't want to go, and Holly turned around
to me and said, why are you even letting us
go anywhere there's alcohol?
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Blah blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
There's no parents like reeled off. All this stuff about
why I shouldn't This is just purely.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Because she didn't want to go. You need it.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
I shouldn't be allowing her to go because it's inappropriate
and I'm a bad parent for letting her go. I
was like, oh, interesting, Okay, let's tighten up this ship,
shall we.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Let's get a little bit stricter.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Yesterday, Holly, can you put the dishwasher on?
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Don't know how? Excuse me. Okay, let's have a.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
Think about how we're going to be treating you from
now on where you want to be treated like an
adult and you want.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
To be yeah, like now when you want to be
going to Billie Eilish in San Francisco.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
But you can't dishwasher. I think it's a hard I
think that in the show is I know, mhm
Appod Shape Production. Welcome back to you another episode about
my Bad Mum podcast. And we're on Instagram too. At
(00:29):
am I a bad Mum. We're trying to get the
Facebook back up.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
And running uns.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
On my to do list for today is update Facebook
and just activate life through Facebook again.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Technology is not our strong point. We've been very clear
on this. When we're in the zone.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
We're pretty good at socials, but I feel like this
is for all moms. I feel like we need a
day to do life admin, to get shit done. Even
on the way into work today, right, I caught up
and I made an appointment.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
For my dog to have a dental check.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
It's that type of shit you just don't do. I
like the dog's breath stinks, she's obviously got some sort
of rotten we haven't cleaned the teeth in ten years.
I'm like, we neglecting this poor dog. We just spent
seven thousand dollars hats on an operation for the cat
so he didn't die, and we don't even really.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Like that cat. Imagine if that's it.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
I just spent you know, two grand on that kid.
I don't even really like that kid of mine.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
Could you imagine that's not even my favorite.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
A lie abad mum before being the one they hate.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
No, I am that person.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
There's always one person within the parenting dynamic that has.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
To be the bad guy, hold that flag. It's annoying.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Like we've spoken about this before about not in every situation,
but often Dad's the fun one.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
I find it a bit of a cop out sometimes
that dads get to continually be the role where kids
just love dad because Dad is the fun one and
dad's like us because dad's funny and.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
The rules aren't normally as strict and little things like
Dad will be the one that goes well just get
Macius Bricky on the way to school. I'm like, I'm
the strict one. They take the piss out of me, right,
soel I know I get the same thing through that,
But this particular situation is unrealistic and I'm being.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
The realistic person. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
So, as we know, my girls are obsessed with Billie
Eilish all concerts. To be honest, at the.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Moment, I was gonna say, I don't know, I was
thinking about this when we're talking. Is it just Billy
or is it just concerts? I know Billy is the
number one but like they seem to be fatting overgoing
to concerts. Yeah, so it could be anyone, but Billy is.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Billy's the idols favorite. Anything she does, any release, new merch,
we have to buy it, Like I have to reduce
access to their bank accounts so they don't or Amelia
in particular, so she doesn't just buy shit because money
burns a hole in her pocket.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
She gets it, she spends it.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
They woke up the other morning and she had announced
more concert dates. Now these aren't concert dates in Australia. Rage,
these are not Brisbane concert dates that they've announced.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Yeah, like, oh my goodness, she's.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Coming back to Brisbane. We can get a ticket for
the show. No, No, these are in San Francisco.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Oh wonderful. Yeah, I mean that's around the corner.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Yeah, we were looking at not long ago if I'm correct,
didn't get those missed down on those now.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
The problem is, as we know with tickets, is that
when they go on sale, you have to be super
quick because they sell out for these big artists.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Also, San fran you've got a few more people to
go up against, not saying Britain and Sydney, Melbourne at
like any easier, but your numbers are outnumbered in America
even more.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Now, for anybody with a full time job to go,
We're going to go to San Francisco in six months
time is a stretch. You need real flight, accommodation, spending money.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
This is in addition to tickets.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Now, my girls seemed to think that they are going
to San Francisco in six months time and they want
to buy the tickets for the concert this week. Now.
The problem is is that I'm so wild before. It's
that fine line between being realistic going that's absolutely not
(05:10):
going to happen yea, and crushing their dreams and being
the bad one. This morning I was texting Holly and
I was getting messages.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
You're getting sprayed, like.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
What the hell have we been saving our money for?
You said that we can go for our dreams. Blah
blah blah blah blah. I've been saving up. I wanted
to go to London. You said, no, it's school holidays.
It's a flight with no stopovers. And I sent a
text back and I started off nice and I said, Darling,
(05:44):
I don't want to be a Debbie Downer, but there
is no way we can all go to San Francisco
in six months time. It's over six thousand dollars in flights,
around fifteen hundred in accommodation. Because you can't just go
to San Francisco for two days travel spending money tickets
unless we win lotto. We are not going, and you
two aren't going by yourself.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Yeah, you're not coming.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
I don't care. I'm buying them. This is what we've
been saving for. It's not six thousand dollars. We're gonna
go there by ourselves. All of this stuff is coming
back at me because I am the bad one. I
just want It's a hard no. I ended up going.
It's a hard no. Yeah, I'm not going to say
it's just go by yourself.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
I know.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
I don't know if this is a twin thing, Rachel,
whether this is just siblings. Do you ever have moments
where your girls are both on side because they both
want something, Yeah, yeah, and they both attack you.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Yeah, they come at you, yeah yeah, and then you
just give them that spray of like, mate, there's two
of you and want to meet, Like, this is unfair.
If we're in a fight right now, this is unfair.
This is a disadvantage, This is a disadvantage and I've
still gonn to whoop the.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Asses and it's elder abuse. It's abuse, it's abuse.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
I one hundred percent I'm with you, like I was
saying to you though, Like as this started to Unford,
I would always like, apart from the fact that you're
their parents, you're the one that is going to be
footing their costs for the flights because there's no way
they can. It's unrealistic of them to think that they're
going to a be able to pay for all of
this on their own back. Like if you want me
(07:20):
to do some quick maths, how much do they earn
a week? Like at Macas. I mean, Holly doesn't even
like working, so she doesn't really go to maccas too often.
Amelia doesn't mind a bit of cash coming in. They like,
this is the unrealistic part of it. You know, when
you're eighteen, go for God, spend your money however you want,
(07:40):
travel whenever you want. But until then, what's going to
happen is your passport looks like this, your date of
birth is on there, and unless you've got my approval
to say that you're flying internationally. I think in her
head she's just like we're just popping over down to
Sydney for an hour. The no, no, you're not Sam
Fran and camping out in San Fran waiting for your
(08:03):
tickets like going to be the same as sleeping at
Boondle in my car, Like it's just not the same.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
And they haven't even thrown in the exchange rate for America.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Everything's everything, everything right now is double. It's so funny.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
I love the way that their brains work, and I
don't want to be the person also like you, that
goes squash your dreams.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Dreams have to be achievable. Number one.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
Dreams have to be somewhat of a stepping stone of
understanding realistic components to it. Because this one needs realistic
components to it. I am this age. I need this
person to trouble with me or their approval like this
shit like that that's in this.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
So as much as you feel really.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
Bad right now, like I get it, I get it,
but I think you're doing the right thing.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Yeah, I'd stick with it. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
The other thing is, you know, another concert will come
to town and they'll be so excited about that.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
It's more realistic to get them to buy a lotto ticket.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Yeah, and then and.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
Think about how good to say you bought a ticket
to Billie Eilish in San Francisco.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
But how the hell are you going to get there?
Because like, let's think about this.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
But also they're planning out how long they've got until November?
We got six months? Well, no, you can't leave flights
till the last minute. They give me so much more experence.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
I know that's right because they think they're going to Sydney.
San Franz is not Sydney. Girlfriend. Also, I got a
bit of backlash the other day, and it was similar
to this right where I've told you before. I make
Gracie iron her uniform and she goes, why do you
have to be this? Because she was tired, she was angry,
(09:43):
she was aggressive. Why can't you just iron my And
I looked at her and I was like, because.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
This is real life, this is real life. Do your
own to walk away from that, KD. I was like,
what a shit mom.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
But the other day and another argument off the back
of that, because she was so angry about ironing her stuff, she.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Got angry at me about I just want you to
be my friend.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Ah.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
I looked at her, I said, I know, I said,
and I really want to be just your friend. I
was like, but I haven't been given that role in
this lifetime. I'm your mother, so then therefore I need
to be your mother. And I hope at the end
of it week can have an amazing friendship because you'll
be a wonderful human being. I said, but right now,
if I don't be true to this part of being
(10:30):
your mother, it's not going to work. Yep, you won't
want to be friends with me because you'll question why
I didn't be a mother to you when you were
this age.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
But that will come later, yeah forty Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
I was like, that'll come later. But I got that,
why are we worry you have to be so strict?
I was confused, Katie, You're in the same ball with this.
The girls just want you.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
To yeah, and they don't want the discipline. However, I
have also noticed that if there are no boundaries, that's
not comfortable for them either.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
So Holly had a moment of saying to me, there
was this party they were invited to and she didn't
want to go, and Amelia really did want to go,
and Holly didn't want to go, and Holly turned around
to me and said, why are you even letting us
go anywhere there's alcohol?
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Blah blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
There's no parents like reeled off. All this stuff about
why I shouldn't This is just purely.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Because she didn't want to go. You need it.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
I shouldn't be allowing her to go because it's inappropriate
and I'm a bad parent for letting her go. I
was like, oh, interesting, Okay, let's tighten up this ship,
shall we.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Let's get a little bit stricter.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Yesterday, Holly, can you put the dishwasher on?
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Don't know how? Excuse me. Okay, let's have a.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
Think about how we're going to be treating you from
now on where you want to be treated like an
adult and you want.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
To be yeah, like now when you want to be
going to Billie Eilish in San Francisco.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
But you can't dishwasher. I think it's a hard I
think that in the show is I know, mhm
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