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October 31, 2025 15 mins

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Brett is joined by the FOP President Daniel Redford to discuss the new CMPD Police Chief, Stella Patterson.  Brett shares a clip from Mark Garrison about a NC dairy farm.

 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
News Talk eleven ten and ninety nine three WBT. Brett
Jensen here with you on this Friday night edition of
Breaking with Brett Jensen. As we all go up until
six thirty tonight, six point thirty seven four five SEVENHO
eleven ten. That's the telephone number, as always, the WBT
text line, which of course is driven by Liberty Buick gmc. Okay,

(00:20):
So big news happening this morning. I told you yesterday
that the announcement would be made today, and it was
that the new police chief for CMPD is Stella Patterson.
She was always the leader, always the heavy favorite to
get the job. She served twenty five years as the
working for I should say serve twenty five years working
for CMPD. She went to UNC Charlotte. She spent the

(00:43):
last four years as the police chief in Raleigh. Her
husband is a big deal with the Charlotte Fire Department.
Her family's here. She was always going to come back
here and this was always going to be the leader,
the most likely person to be the next police chief.
She was actually supposed to be the police chief before
Johnny Jennings, was after Kirk Putney, but things didn't work
out because the timing and whatever. So she wound up

(01:05):
going to Raleigh to be the police chief, and Johnny
Jennings wound up being the police chief here.

Speaker 2 (01:09):
All right. So with all that being said, how's the
FOP going to react?

Speaker 1 (01:13):
Because it is no secret that the FOP, the Fraternal
Order Police in Charlotte Mecklenburg, does not care for Johnny Jennings.
They are about to give him a vote of no
confidence a couple thousand members until he announced his retirement.
So what does the FOP think about the new hire
of Stella Patterson as the new police chief. Well, to
tell us about it right now is FOP President Daniel Redford.

(01:36):
So first of all, Daniel, I appreciate you joining us tonight.
And second of all, she is no stranger to the
members of CNPD. So what is the fop's position on
Stella Patterson?

Speaker 3 (01:46):
One hundred percent support it. I'm glad that the city
manager chows her to be cnpd's next police chief. We
think that she is going to bring a fresh set
of leadership qualities and ideas and everything to lead the agency.
And you know, and hopefully you know, like she did

(02:07):
in Raleigh, is their police chief bring morale up? So
We're really excited, really looking forward to working with her,
and you know, we wish the best luck. And again,
you know, we appreciate the city manager and everybody who
had a part in the selection process.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
Speaking with Daniel Radford, the president of the Charlotte MECKNBORGK
Fraternal Order of Police. So, Daniel, the FOP here, you know,
you guys are in a unique situation because you guys
have organizations in nearly every county all over this country.
So have you been able to speak to members of
the FOP up in Raleigh to get their feedback on
Stella Patterson.

Speaker 3 (02:43):
Yes, not anybody in Raleigh specifically, but I have spoken
with people on our state level to the FOP who
know her and who or who know her leadership qualities
and what she did in Raleigh. And I'll tell you, Brett,
I don't know that I have heard of one. I
get this thing about Chief Patterson. I know that from

(03:04):
what I was told is she was very very well
respected in Raleigh. The troops at the Raleigh Police Department
really loved her. She came in there and you know,
completely changed the culture within the agency and she was
very well respected. I know it was it was sad
for her departure when she left that department. But I

(03:25):
haven't heard anything bad about her. Everything I have heard
has all been positive. They loved her, which is one
of the reasons why, you know, we're excited to hear
that she's now going to, you know, take on the
role as police chief.

Speaker 1 (03:36):
Here in Charlotte speaking with Daniel Redford, President of the
Charlotte Meckenburg Fraternal Order of Police. So Stella Patterson served
twenty five years with CNPD. You've been at CMPD for
quite a long time. Have you guys had any interactions in.

Speaker 3 (03:48):
The past, not that I recall, no, I and again
I haven't. I haven't heard anything negative of her anywhere.
There's there's not a bad thing that I that I
have heard. And even through this process, you know, it
was the the whole chief's process was very, very tight lipped.

(04:09):
I will tell you that we tried to find somebody,
you know, that could at least give us an insight
on handidates. Uh, And we couldn't find anybody that would
tell us who was even being considered.

Speaker 4 (04:21):
You know.

Speaker 3 (04:21):
All we heard were rumors. But but but again, even
even with that and with Chief Patterson's name being floated
as as one of the potential candidates. We still didn't
hear anything negative. So nobody, nobody came to us and said, hey,
we have concerns. Everything was all very supportive. A lot
of people were very hopeful and wishing that she would

(04:44):
be selected. So but again, I mean, we're just very
excited and hope that you know, she comes in and
you know it's going to do a great job. We
don't have any any fear that she's not. But like
I said, we're just we're excited, very great that she
was chosen and you know, we're looking forward to working
with her.

Speaker 1 (05:05):
So now with Stella Patterson joining CMPD as the chief,
what's going to be her A couple of biggest challenges
that she's going to have to face as the new chief.

Speaker 3 (05:14):
I would tell you from a from an internal standpoint,
I will say will be recruiting and retention and morale. Uh,
those will be the two biggest things. Obviously, you know,
you know, it's it's it's not it's not the fault
of really anyone you know per se in this. But
you know, whenever there's a change in leadership, there's obviously

(05:36):
a lot of there's a lot of unknowns as to
how the next police chief is going to actually you know,
lead the agency, So there's a little bit of there's
probably a little bit of disruption from morale for that.
But now that we know that she's going to be
the police chief, I think some people concerns are put
at ease. But you know, I mean, morale has been

(05:57):
an issue for for for quite some time. You know,
there's always been a feeling of you know, the rank
and file kind of being left in the dark about
a lot of things and not getting the support that
they feel they need. But again, I know from what
we have heard through our connections with Roley PD is
that you know, she she completely changed that that feeling around.

(06:20):
I'm I almost guarantee she's going to do the same
things here or at least make every attempt that she
can to do the best she can to address morale.
But again, recruiting the staffing issues, getting more officers and
boots on the ground, especially with all these major events
that Charlotte is hosting, and the you know, the serious
understaffing that we believe c MPD is under is getting

(06:44):
qualified applicants through the door and making sure that we're
retaining the experienced officers that we have. So and again,
from from what I've read and seen, she did a
very good job in Raleigh, and again I don't have
any any other expectation other than for her to do
this same here in Charlotte's.

Speaker 1 (07:01):
Daniel Redford, President of the Charlotte Mcaburg Fraternal Order of Police,
I really do appreciate you joining us tonight.

Speaker 3 (07:06):
All right, thank you Brett.

Speaker 1 (07:07):
Again, thanks to Daniel Redford, president of the Charlotte Mcamurg
Fraternal Order of Police, joining us tonight. You know, look,
that's a great thing if everyone's on board with this,
and the fact that they're praising the city manager Marcus
Jones for the hire, because there, you know, maybe there
were some concerns going, oh, you know, another former CMPD person,
nothing's really going to change, is still going to be

(07:28):
part of the good old boy network, the Johnny Jennings network.
But you know, here's the thing, though, she really didn't
serve under Johnny Jennings.

Speaker 2 (07:35):
You know, she was in Raleigh. So you know, again a.

Speaker 1 (07:38):
Lot of people are very happy that she is now
the new person and that she's going to bring a
different perspective and new life and hopefully boost morale because
morale is extremely low right now under Chief Johnny Jennings,
like extremely low. All right, when we come back, we're
going to end the week on a positive note.

Speaker 2 (07:58):
Again, I'm only going up until six thirty ten.

Speaker 1 (08:00):
Mark Garrison has a really cool story about a unique
farm not far from here, So we're gonna hear about
that when we return. But right now, let's swing on
over to the WT Traffic Center with Pam Warner. Welcome
back to Breaking with Brett Jensen on this Friday night,
as we have a few more minutes with you as
we go up until six thirty tonight. Okay, So Mark

(08:22):
Garrison has been on the road again trying to find
interesting people, interesting places. I mean, this is what he does,
this is who Mark Garrison is, and this is where
he shines. Well, this time he says he has found
the mecca for ice cream and milk on a little
farm not far from Charlotte, in the middle of nowhere.

Speaker 4 (08:44):
A dairy farm on a narrow back road in Julian,
North Carolina.

Speaker 5 (08:49):
In Julian, we have no stop lights, we have a
post office, no restaurants.

Speaker 4 (08:54):
You're the biggest attraction in Julian. Yes, people from all
over the state are attracted to this ninety acre farm
where they get a taste of how life used to be.

Speaker 5 (09:05):
It's barn was built in nineteen thirty.

Speaker 4 (09:07):
Nine, and a taste of how it is today.

Speaker 2 (09:11):
Oh my gosh, that is delicious.

Speaker 4 (09:15):
She's one of several people sampling the freshly made chocolate milk.
It's the bomb by bomb here at Homeland Derrey.

Speaker 6 (09:23):
You could drink the whole thing. And I'm talking about container.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
You know.

Speaker 4 (09:27):
Here you are out in the middle of nowhere, and
crowds flock here they do. Chris Bowman never ceases to
be amazed at how far customers drive for milk so fresh.
It was moving a few hours ago.

Speaker 7 (09:41):
We got some customers that come from Fayetteville weekly.

Speaker 4 (09:44):
And that's a three hour round trip just for milk.

Speaker 7 (09:46):
I love the chocolate milk.

Speaker 4 (09:48):
Here in Homeland Dairy. Whether it's chocolate or regular milk,
everything here's good. The taste is different than what you
buy at the supermarket. And that's because of something called
that pasturization.

Speaker 7 (10:00):
I just like that pasturization mish better tasting.

Speaker 4 (10:04):
Pasteurization, of course, is the process of heating milk to
kill any harmful bacteria. But in our hurry up society,
the big dairy companies pasturize milk by blasting it to
a high temperature for just fifteen seconds. But with that pasturization,
milk goes from the cow to a big vat where
it's slowly heated for thirty minutes, just the way milk

(10:28):
was pasturized back in the early nineteen hundreds.

Speaker 5 (10:31):
So imagine a crop pot slow and longer periods of time.

Speaker 4 (10:36):
It tastes better, they kept saying, it makes milk taste better.

Speaker 7 (10:39):
It really brings out the flavor in the chocolate milk.

Speaker 4 (10:42):
So I had to try it.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
Silky smooth.

Speaker 4 (10:45):
It is so good, it's creamy.

Speaker 6 (10:48):
A lot of people describe it as a melted milkshake.

Speaker 4 (10:50):
That's Chris Bowman's daughter Page. She's the seventh generation of
the Bowman family to live and work here on the
farm in Julia. She is thrilled to farm life with her.

Speaker 5 (11:01):
Kids, like I had the best childhood ever on this farm,
riding four wheelers and playing in the haylaw and milking cows.

Speaker 4 (11:10):
Her grandfather bought the first cows on this farm way
back in nineteen forty seven.

Speaker 7 (11:15):
They started out with about eight to begin with, and
then they went to thirteen or fourteen.

Speaker 4 (11:19):
And before long they had forty cows. When did you
figure out cows where you're destined?

Speaker 7 (11:24):
I just grew into it. It's just in my blood.

Speaker 4 (11:26):
And one day Chris Bowman and his brother had a
moving idea. They thought, instead of selling our milk to
big conglomerates, why don't we process our own milk and
compete with the big boys. A decision that put their
farm and the tiny community of Julian on the milk map.

Speaker 7 (11:45):
I guess it's sort of like the field of dreams.
You build it and they will come.

Speaker 2 (11:50):
Two stoops of butter pecan.

Speaker 4 (11:52):
Oh, people come for the milk.

Speaker 7 (11:54):
I think I'm going to try the black cherry.

Speaker 4 (11:56):
But they also come for the homemade ice cream.

Speaker 2 (11:58):
How cold is.

Speaker 7 (11:59):
It in here?

Speaker 6 (12:00):
Negative fourteen right now?

Speaker 4 (12:02):
They make it in small batches. So this is fresh
made ice cream that's freezing. Yes, and every flavor like that.
Butter pecan is a family recipe.

Speaker 6 (12:11):
Yes, the pecans are toasted.

Speaker 4 (12:13):
Oh my goodness, this is loaded with pecan.

Speaker 6 (12:15):
Can you taste the butter and the molasses and the flavor.

Speaker 4 (12:19):
Then there's apple pie ice cream.

Speaker 5 (12:22):
It tastes like when you put your warm apple pie
on a scoop of ice cream and at milk.

Speaker 6 (12:27):
Yeah, that's what that tastes like.

Speaker 4 (12:29):
And is just insanely good. But there's even more to
experience here than just tasty milk and ice cream. Firing
up the tractor, oh right, here we can. Customers can
also hop onto a wagon for a hay rod.

Speaker 6 (12:41):
Do you remember what the brown cows are called?

Speaker 4 (12:43):
And learn more about food and farming jerseys.

Speaker 3 (12:47):
That's right, you know.

Speaker 4 (12:48):
Now where your milk comes from? Belly belly of the cow. Well,
it turns out that six year old knows more than
some adults. Page says, she gets some mighty strange questions.

Speaker 5 (12:58):
On the hay rod was peeing and a woman asked
if that's where the milk comes from?

Speaker 4 (13:05):
Our knowledge of agriculture is not too.

Speaker 2 (13:07):
Good, is it?

Speaker 6 (13:07):
And that's okay, that's what we're here for.

Speaker 4 (13:10):
Well, after a little education here move you cows are
in for that time to sample what those cows help
create shock ice cream. So as the family farm is
swarming with happy visitors, Chris Bowman says, God really blessed
his idea to have the customers come to him.

Speaker 7 (13:29):
I'll say, no doubt about it milkshake.

Speaker 4 (13:33):
But daughter Page says she thinks the homemade ice cream
and that rich fat pasteurized milk actually taste even better
in this tranquil setting, a little farm and a town
that few.

Speaker 5 (13:45):
Have heard of, and just come and have fresh air
and have animals walk up to you. And we need
to slow down. We're going to live longer. We're going
to enjoy it if we stop and eat the ice.

Speaker 4 (13:57):
Cream, or stop and taste the chald.

Speaker 5 (14:01):
Rich ahma Vennis yummy.

Speaker 1 (14:08):
So the Homeland Creamery is in Julian, North Carolina, and
it's open seven days a week, and the best way
to find.

Speaker 2 (14:14):
It is just Google it or go to Google Maps.

Speaker 1 (14:17):
And again this is why Mark Garrison is Mark Garrison.
I mean, it's absolutely fantastic. I told this story the
other night on News and Bruce I remember a story.
He and his wife were actually headed to the beach
for on vacation and they're driving in the middle of nowhere,
South Carolina, maybe near Cherral or something like that, and
they see a guy on the side of the road
selling like vegetables or fruit or whatever out of the

(14:38):
trunk of his car. Pulled over on the side of
the road. So Mark just stops and starts talking to
the man while they're actually driving to vacation. And I said,
can you imagine being Mark Garrison's wife? And Mark was like, yeah,
she's way used to this by now, and actually she'll
try and help me find stories. So again, an absolutely
fantastic story from Mark. I always appreciate it, and I figured,
you know what, this is a good way to end

(14:59):
the week with all the stuff that's been going on,
election stuff. And by the way, on Monday, I am
sitting in for Brett Winnable from three to six and
we are going to have a lot of election coverage
as well as some other things because earlier in that
morning is the CMPD press conference introducing the new CNPD chief.

Speaker 2 (15:16):
All right, that's going to do it for us this week.

Speaker 1 (15:17):
Again, have a great weekend, have a safe Halloween, enjoy it,
enjoy everything the weekend. The weather's supposed to be perfect
this weekend. So until Monday at three pm. My name
is Brett Jenson, and you have been listening to Breaking
with Brett Jensen
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