Community Connection - May 15 2026 Tina Cosby with Open Lines James Patterson and Eric Garnes talk with Tina - Community Connection With Tina Cosby

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Has to give me worship.

Speaker 2 (00:01):
It certainly is no question.

Speaker 3 (00:03):
And if you want if today is not going to
be your day, I know I hope many of you
are hoping it will be. And I'm saying good luck
to each and all of you as you get ready
to call in. But the tickets are on sale at
the Clues Memorial Hall box office or at Djgino dot net.
I would suggest getting those tickets sooner rather than later,
because seating is becoming quite limited, and a lot of

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times people want to buy tickets, you know, two or
four together.

Speaker 1 (00:30):
True, yeah, yeah, so they can have everybody together.

Speaker 3 (00:33):
But when it gets to this point, there might be
single individual tickets in different places out there at Clues Hall.
So we don't want to wait too long so that
we can't sit with who we want to sit with.

Speaker 1 (00:45):
Absolutely, yeah, yep, yep, yep, yep.

Speaker 3 (00:47):
So anyway, right now, the lines are open three one
seven four eight zero thirteen ten three one seven four
eight zero thirteen ten, And our contributing analyst James Patterson, well.

Speaker 1 (00:56):
Our first, our first person in today we lock James
first one in.

Speaker 4 (01:01):
Yeah, Hey, I'm at the head of the line. You know, Actually,
I like not not really being at the head of
the line. You know, I'm a little more reserved person
than that. But I like the fact that when you
have a true we can review open line show Tina
on Friday. Usually I'm here on Friday, people can call it.

Speaker 5 (01:24):
I like to hear.

Speaker 4 (01:25):
Different views on things. Yes, and then people you know,
feel comfortable about calling in and letting us know what
is on their mind. I like that because, you know,
I mean, it kind of gets me going on. I
like to hear what people are thinking because I don't
have all the answers. You don't have, doesn't have all
the answers I know, I don't know, so I like

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to hear them.

Speaker 1 (01:49):
Yeah, I do too.

Speaker 3 (01:51):
It's wonderful to be able to get back to that
where we have the time. But you know, we've been
in the political season, the primaries, just a whole bunch
of different things that has disrupted our schedule.

Speaker 1 (02:02):
But pretty much, you know who holds us to.

Speaker 3 (02:04):
This schedule a lot is uh uh Dion Levingston, uh,
you know, head of our audio division and every one,
because he'll come in here off the road any given Friday.
Today's open lines, right, we can say whatever we want
because Dion doesn't like to be he got Dion likes
to say whatever he wants to say.

Speaker 1 (02:22):
And I'm like, well, Dion, I may have a guest today.

Speaker 3 (02:25):
Where we're you know, we're deviating from that just a
little bit today, but he always remembers that. And so
if he's listening, uh, and here in the building or wherever,
Dion today is a true open lines and true.

Speaker 4 (02:37):
Yeah, yeah, I mean that's good. I mean you've got
to juggle like two kinds of balls at least, if
not more, for this show. I mean you have to, uh,
you know, have an agenda, an itinerary that includes community concerns,
speakers about different projects, different programs coming up, what's happening,

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trend in the community that we served. And then on
the other hand, it's community connection. We want the ideas
of the people. What are you thinking about? What do
you think about what we talked about? What do you
think about that? Guess you know. So that's why I
love open lines and we can review the format thing.

Speaker 3 (03:19):
Yeah all right, well this is that way the whole
show long, So kick back and relax. We're gonna start
it off with the weather report. As we were all
well not all of us, but some of us coming
in to work between the nine around the nine o'clock.

Speaker 1 (03:34):
Hour, we got wet because it was raining. It was raining, I.

Speaker 4 (03:38):
Know you did, and we did have some some light
showers earlier today didn't amount to much about a tenth
a little over tenth, maybe a tenth and a half
of an inch, not quite two tenths of rain. But
it has pushed through the Indianapolis metro area and it's
moving on east. You know, weather goes west to east generally.

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The clouds, however, I don't know what y'all are seeing
in the downtown studio, but the clouds, however, are still
hanging on, at least for the time being. We should
see those clouds, you guys, thinning out and sunshine popping
up through the clouds this afternoon as the afternoon wears on.

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It was fifty eight degrees as we came on the
air today, and we are looking for not only the
sunshine to pop through those clouds, but temperatures hopefully to
push up towards seventy degrees, depending on how long the
cloudy conditions persist stay with us. All in all, All
in all, we should see a beauty if those Spring

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day unfold if we can just get rid of these clouds,
and it looks like they're moving at their own little pace.
But I'm of the belief that we're going to see
some sun popping through and then eventually it'll it will dominate.

Speaker 1 (05:02):
Okay, well yeah, yep, yep, yep. All right, well then
we'll look for the.

Speaker 3 (05:06):
Sun today, Okay, yeah, yeah. Indeed, so a lot of
developments this past week.

Speaker 1 (05:15):
Probably were one of the bigger ones. I mean, you know,
it's hard to say this is the biggest, or this
was the biggest or because.

Speaker 3 (05:20):
But one of the bigger ones was Indiana Black Exposed,
uh shifting uh.

Speaker 1 (05:27):
Gears, I guess if you will.

Speaker 3 (05:29):
For the Circle City Classic, Uh, they're reimagining it to
where the football being played at the Lucas Oil Stadium
at Lucas Oil is now going to be high school
uh an area high school, possibly statewide high school as
opposed to HBCU focused, although it will stay focused with

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the HBCUs but HBCU theme, you know, it'll stay focused
with it, and there will be some bands.

Speaker 1 (06:01):
But long in the short of it is no more HBCU.

Speaker 3 (06:04):
College football during Circle City Classic. That is pivoting. There's
a pivot to high school basketball and President and CEO
of Indiana Black Expo Alice Watson was on our show
on Monday, and she did I thought an excellent job
of explaining why. You know, I've seen a lot of

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stuff online and you know, in different just different places
and place people are asking. Well, yeah, but XBO didn't
say why, or they didn't say why.

Speaker 1 (06:36):
Yeah she did. Y'all don't listen to this show.

Speaker 3 (06:40):
I guess I don't know, but she absolutely did say why.

Speaker 1 (06:46):
And it's one word money.

Speaker 2 (06:48):
She certainly did.

Speaker 3 (06:50):
Made it very clear it's no longer sustainable money.

Speaker 4 (06:55):
Yeah, well, I think it was. If I could put
my little two pennies in, I think it it was
a very astute and well thought out change a move
that they made, uh, because people are simply especially in
Indiana and elsewhere, you know, everywhere Illinois, Texas, what East coast,

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West coast people are are really into high school sports.
I mean they'll go to a game where their son
or their daughter, or their nephew or their niece is
playing in a high school contest. And I think it
was a brilliant move. Matter of fact.

Speaker 1 (07:33):
Yeah, well, fiscally yes.

Speaker 4 (07:37):
I think not physically, but I think to drum up
more interesting enthusiasm. This is just me, Tina. No, No,
for the for the event, for the event. Because you
go to high school games sometimes you'll get more than
you will let a you know, a Division two college
game or whatever you know, or HBTU college game. I've

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seen those on TV and the crowds they draw draw
high school sports. People are just into that that's where
their children are.

Speaker 3 (08:12):
And I don't disagree with that, but I'm saying that,
you know what, we're a tough sell here in Indianapolis.

Speaker 1 (08:19):
And if you.

Speaker 3 (08:19):
Look online social media and Eric you you know, I know,
I think Kenny's in there, he knows. We know what
the chatter is, the social media chatter is, and it's
it's well, why or why couldn't this be?

Speaker 1 (08:33):
Why couldn't that be? We have a.

Speaker 3 (08:36):
Pattern that we're going to have to infiltrate and to
break in order to get buy in.

Speaker 1 (08:42):
Yes, everything that you're saying is correct.

Speaker 3 (08:44):
People love high school sports, they'll go out to see
their kids whatever. But on the other hand, people here
in Indianapolis are spoiled when it comes to that event,
extremely extremely spoiled. When it comes to that event. So
it's not going to be I don't know. Let me
put it this way. I am curious to see if
it's going to be an instant buy in or if

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it's going to be something that's going to have people
are going to have to buy into over time, depending
on how it's done, who's invited, and you know, the
devil is always in the details. Fiscally responsibly speaking, I
think it was a brilliant move because if you don't
have that, then the then the uh, there's no sustainability

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for that weekend, and there's quite the commitment from Indiana
Black Expo to provide something for the community on that weekend.
They would not walk away from that commitment, however, understanding
that the way things have been done in the past,
the expense was just not sustainable.

Speaker 1 (09:44):
So this is going to.

Speaker 5 (09:45):
Be ad What did I tell you?

Speaker 4 (09:47):
Hey? What did I tell you? You know, you're we're
talking about, you know, people not wanting this change and
all the social media and all that, which is why
I don't follow it. But so if they if they're not,
if they are upset about this, well the reason they
have to change is because the model they're using now
isn't working. They're not coming out thirty thousand people to

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support the game right now, are they.

Speaker 1 (10:11):
Well, get let's go back to what I was just saying.
The money. They have not had the money.

Speaker 3 (10:18):
To satisfy this crowd, which initially became quite used to
being entertained by the best in college football in the
HBCU space.

Speaker 1 (10:30):
You see what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (10:31):
So they were every year they had less and less
money to get the big attractions, to get the Tennessee States,
the fam you you know, the Gramblings, the Howards, all
the Jackson State, all of those big name you know,
HBCUs that they once were able to bring to town
and drew thousands, tens of thousands to either the RCA

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Dome or you know when they used to do that.

Speaker 1 (10:58):
They be able to do that. That model worked.

Speaker 3 (11:01):
Brilliantly, but given the fact that the money started to
drive up that it was hard to keep track with
the increasing demand for these ever growing popular bands. Basically
it's the bands, I mean, the football teams go with them, HBCU.

Speaker 1 (11:18):
Bands which were getting gigs in Europe.

Speaker 3 (11:22):
You know, as she was saying, majority population schools or
majority population institutions were catching on that they offered great
entertainment value, so they were competing for them and paying
prices that you know, Indiana Black Expo just simply could
not sustain or could not match.

Speaker 1 (11:40):
You had to get in there on their schedule.

Speaker 3 (11:44):
Yeah, on their schedule, and which she said memorandums of understanding.
That was okay for a while with certain schools that
they had relationships with, but after a while that you know,
it all came down to money and being able to
compete in that space in addition to being able to
just bring what was once the biggest attractions in HBCU history.

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Being able to do that, the money just simply was
not where the market was demanding.

Speaker 1 (12:15):
Okay, and so is it.

Speaker 3 (12:17):
I think the model is it was was great, was good,
but I think the sustainability of that model in terms
of what the markets started to demand for these schools
and these youngsters and and getting them here and getting
them there just became too much to handle, which is
why they started going to I don't want to say that,

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you know, but the less popular schools like the Kentucky States,
the Central States and some of the other they were HBCUs,
but they weren't the you know, the gate, what do
you call the folks that could could.

Speaker 1 (12:50):
Take the gate? They just weren't. They didn't.

Speaker 3 (12:52):
There was not the big alumni base here there was,
So it's a it's a to me, it's a domino effect.
And again, I'm not disagreeing with you, James. I'm just
saying the whole thing keeps getting back to money and
the ability to be able to compete, to keep things
at the level where you can keep people.

Speaker 1 (13:11):
Engaged, entertained, and coming back for more.

Speaker 3 (13:14):
It just it just wasn't there, and they weren't able
to They weren't able to sustain it.

Speaker 4 (13:22):
Yeah, I mean, I you know, here's what here's my
thoughts on number one. You know, I mean, you're right. However,
I heard a little part of hers. I couldn't hear
that whole show. I heard her little part of this
and what she was saying. Also, you tell me if
I'm wrong. Is that support support for black programs and

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projects and events.

Speaker 1 (13:49):
And sponsorship right up? Yes?

Speaker 4 (13:54):
Yeah, not only money. Yeah again, city classic for for
for some and so celebration for anything black.

Speaker 5 (14:04):
I mean, let's just.

Speaker 4 (14:04):
Face it, since the Trump administration has been in office, yeah,
I mean, you could just and so I don't know
if this is one of the the you know, kind
of the casualties of that, Tina. But also I would
say to the alumni, Indiana does not have a historically
Black college or university HBCU. Team Indiana does not have that,

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So they have to have an alumni base here whatever
schools they bring in for at an event, to have
a core support group for it. Okay. So yeah, so
they're really top teams. I could you could say Southern
Jackson State, what else?

Speaker 1 (14:47):
What else can we say?

Speaker 4 (14:53):
Six six, eight of them that I really were I
call elite. Even those teams, you can see those games
on TV. I've got the satellite and you can see
their games. Even their games if they're not playing another elite,
they they you know, their side of the stands are
relatively full, but the stadium is it's not fall Okay.

Speaker 5 (15:16):
So just the model.

Speaker 4 (15:17):
Of a black versus black team in a black league
in a city like Indianapolis is a hard push anyway.
So you've got to have sponsorships, you've got to have support,
and you've definitely got to have people going to those games.
And so I just think I'm not saying it's the panacea.
But I think it's a good thing to try these

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high school sports because you go to a high school
game Brownsburg versus what Central Stadium is going to be
full period.

Speaker 1 (15:54):
Because when they go.

Speaker 3 (15:57):
When they go for class football and class basketball, and
when they when they when the football teams play down there,
it's it's full. But I don't know that we would
call the stadiums packed. And that's that's going to be
one of the challenges. And I think it all has
to do with programming, meaning everything that's going to be

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on hand in addition to the game that's going to
be a bigger crowd pull as well as opposed to
just a football game, because if you if you've watched
those high school state football games, now basketball is different.

Speaker 6 (16:32):
That's total.

Speaker 1 (16:33):
Basketball is totally different. But and because we've got the.

Speaker 3 (16:35):
Class system, you know, you would think that the stadiums
would be filled to the to the and they are.

Speaker 1 (16:44):
They are full, but they're not. You know, it's it's not.

Speaker 3 (16:47):
The what of Dallat's say thirty to fifty thousand people
that we would need to make it a success. It's
just and there's no bigger stage than winning a state championship.

Speaker 4 (16:58):
So yeah, yeah, well but yeah.

Speaker 3 (17:02):
Them attended. Let's put it this way. I think it's
people have been talking about switching to high schools for
the longest, and I think it's a great idea. I'm
agreeing with you. I think it's a great idea. But
I think it's an idea that it is going to
have to catch on. I think it's going to have
to catch on. Yeah, No, seriously, I think it's going

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to have to catch on and people are going to
have to get used to it and they'll start to
enjoy it. And I think the key as she was saying,
and she pointed out, there'll be more. I mean that
some of the attractions on football game day. You've got
a women's flag football team that they've got a flag
football game at ten o'clock. You've got other activations that
are going to be down there at the stadium throughout

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the course of the day.

Speaker 1 (17:47):
You've got bands and all this other stuff.

Speaker 3 (17:50):
So with all of the programming and the activations combined, Yeah,
I think you're going to get some good crowds. I
think you should get some really good crowds.

Speaker 4 (17:59):
I mean that's just you know, my just my thoughts
that I believe. We'll have to wait and see, but
I think it'll work. I just just based on having
raised children and having gone through you know, elementary, middle
school and also high school and gone to the events

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because my children were competing.

Speaker 1 (18:21):
Yeah parents cool, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (18:24):
Yeah, but you know here here's the thing. And my
son was able when he played high school football. His
team was playing for a state championship, right, and we
went and it was it was very fragmented, meaning you know,
when one school left, you know another you know, another
team came in and came in, came in, and I

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will you know, the stadium is vast. I mean it
holds what upwards of seventy thousand people. So and really
parents came out, families came out. I mean we had
I mean we had family from down around, down south
and you know, so a whole in addition to just us,
uh they we had family that came in from out

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of town to see the game and things.

Speaker 1 (19:09):
So yeah, it's.

Speaker 4 (19:10):
Isn't that better than what are they going to have?
Are the games going to be like a playoff game
or something or just a regular contest? You know what?

Speaker 3 (19:19):
I don't I don't know. I think because they're calling
it a classic. I think there's still Circle City Classic.

Speaker 4 (19:23):
I think there'll be just be a game during the season.

Speaker 3 (19:26):
Well no, I think it, you know, kind of like
a tournament, a mid season tournament or whatever.

Speaker 1 (19:30):
Because it's a.

Speaker 3 (19:31):
Classic, there'll probably be a trophy and awards and all
kinds of other things.

Speaker 1 (19:34):
We didn't get into.

Speaker 3 (19:35):
We didn't get all that with als, but I would
think that that would be, uh, you know, one of
the big attractions as well, that hey, you win the
you won the Classic, Your too won the Classic.

Speaker 1 (19:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (19:46):
I'm going to say that they'll generate more crowds than
they would with Central State versus Kentucky.

Speaker 3 (19:51):
Absolutely, well, yes, yes, yes, I don't disagree with that,
absolutely because what is the interest in Central State and
Kentucky State And at one point in time, they did
that for five years in a row, trying to create
a rivalry like Southern and Grambling, and that ain't gonna
happen because their rivalry is.

Speaker 4 (20:09):
Too Ben Davis versus Decatur Central, I mean that would
bring folks.

Speaker 3 (20:14):
Yeah, been Ben Davis and Warren or been you know,
the some inner city rivalries, what are what.

Speaker 1 (20:20):
Are some inner city rights tech attics tech and attics. Well, yeah, yeah,
well either.

Speaker 4 (20:25):
Or you know, Hamilton Southeast, these these if they look
for the minority contingent. Yeah, the the minorities are moving
out to these You live out of county, don't you. Eric,
minorities are moving out of the Indianapolis area and they

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are populating the suburban school That's true.

Speaker 1 (20:50):
That's true, all around, all around that.

Speaker 3 (20:53):
Yeah, So I'm sure there'll be incentives. I'm sure there'll
be in centerves for any school that gets to participate.
And she did say it's point in time they would
like to expand it around the state.

Speaker 1 (21:06):
Yes, so that that's going to be good.

Speaker 3 (21:07):
So and you know, the one question I asked her,
if not this pivot, then what And she basically said, well,
it has to be this because we have to keep
our commitment to the community. So she didn't say, well,
if not this, then that's it. No, she said it
has to work. So I I truly believe they're going
to work on whatever the model is, they're gonna adjust

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it and do.

Speaker 4 (21:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (21:30):
Yeah, that that was her thing. There is a commitment.

Speaker 2 (21:33):
Also, she said be open to suggestions as well. She
did any ideas that someone may have, you can share
those ideas.

Speaker 3 (21:42):
But I I, you know, I don't want to. I
don't want to seem like I'm talking against it. I'm
in favor of it, Okay, I'm fully in favor of
and giving, you know, giving area folks and area kids
a chance to participate.

Speaker 4 (21:57):
You're in the big chair there, so I know you
watch air every single word. So I'm not worried about that.
You're not talking against it, no, no.

Speaker 3 (22:04):
I but I do think that we as a community,
based on what I hear, are are somewhat spoiled.

Speaker 1 (22:11):
I think we're somewhat spoiled.

Speaker 3 (22:13):
And well, well, well maybe crying and whine about it
a little bit, but I think eventually it'll take hold.

Speaker 2 (22:19):
But that's kind of how it goes with any piece,
any piece of change.

Speaker 7 (22:23):
People.

Speaker 4 (22:24):
Yeah, well, well.

Speaker 3 (22:28):
Why did they do this when we know all along
for the past I don't know how many years folks
have been saying in back rooms and I told al
was this, Well they need to just make it high school.
Why they're getting all these colleges. We've been hearing that
talk for years. Oh yes, and now that they're doing it, well,
kind of like the two what those two old men

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on the muppets.

Speaker 2 (22:49):
Yeah, oh yeah, it's great.

Speaker 4 (22:51):
It was wonderful.

Speaker 2 (22:52):
Well it was kind of hot.

Speaker 1 (22:53):
On hot and yeah.

Speaker 3 (22:54):
Swift made an interesting point too, that it will be
a popular event for young people to go to, and
so what are we going to do in terms of
keeping our young folks safe because most of our young
people want to go down and have a good time.
They don't want any mess. They don't want trouble, right,
and so no, they don't. They don't want to be
bothered with all that. So you know, Swift was saying that,

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you know that that's going to be interesting, and Alice
is talking about the challenges there, and I told Alice,
I said, you know, when when it was we were
talking about it last week, someone there were there were
those who called and said, oh, this is fantastic. It
gives the kids something to do, something positive for our
kids to go to. And then somebody else called and said, well,
you're gonna have all them kids.

Speaker 1 (23:36):
Downtown and no, no, no, no, no no, And I'm like, okay,
we can't. You know, you can't.

Speaker 3 (23:40):
Necessarily both sides are probably true, but I would say
the majority of these youngsters just want to go down
and have a good time, because where else can they
go in a safe place and have fun. And you know,
Circle City Classic has never been known for any kind
of disruptions or what happens.

Speaker 1 (23:58):
So yeah, it's all all good. It's all very good.

Speaker 3 (24:01):
Yeah, we're hoping, you know, we're hoping to get So
I say, congratulations, nice pivot, brave move, I think. But fiscally,
as far as finances is concerned, I think it was
a very smart move and I think it's one that'll
keep them afloat for quite a while.

Speaker 1 (24:16):
I do.

Speaker 4 (24:17):
I think I think that model will work. You know,
the mate some have to tweak it a little bit,
you know, whatever events are around it. You mentioned some
things going on before that game. They may have to
tweak it. But I do think it will draw crowds.
Yeah on there, I just do.

Speaker 1 (24:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (24:34):
And by the time the game comes to town, that
temporary stricter curfew will have been lifted, which will make
it a little bit easier in the event that something
goes to.

Speaker 1 (24:44):
Nine o'clock for the summer months school So we.

Speaker 3 (24:50):
Got callers and we still have some tickets to give away.
But what we're gonna do right now, take a quick
quick break and then we get back, we'll go to
the phone lines three one seven for zero thirteen ten,
three one seven for eight zero thirteen ten.

Speaker 1 (25:03):
Got a lot of other stuff that happened this week
to go over as well. We'll be right back.

Speaker 6 (25:14):
Let's get back to the conversation. It's Community Connection with
Tina Cosby on phrase AM thirteen ten ninety five point
one FM.

Speaker 1 (25:24):
And we're back with Community Connection, open lines and we
can review Friday. It's back.

Speaker 3 (25:29):
James Patterson our contributing analysis here with us as is
our producer Eric Garnes, And uh yeah, we were just
talking about a big announcement about Circle City Classic, the
pivot from football teams in the HBCU space to football
teams that are local, and a bunch of other events
surrounding that. So that should be that should be interesting. James,

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We had a good conversation about that. I got a
lot of other things, but we have some calls, so
let's let's go to a call or two.

Speaker 1 (25:58):
Pat go ahead, do you have a comment.

Speaker 8 (26:01):
Yes on the high school basket high school football game
for the Circa City Classic.

Speaker 9 (26:05):
You can do high school rivals?

Speaker 4 (26:08):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, go ahead? Or do you think that
would work to.

Speaker 8 (26:14):
Be like the NFL, or be like the NFL with
an option game, and you take two schools out of
the top.

Speaker 5 (26:20):
Ten and put them in that game.

Speaker 1 (26:22):
Hmm. Okay, that's interesting.

Speaker 4 (26:24):
Why do you think the high school rivals would work? Pat?

Speaker 8 (26:29):
I used to assistant coach at l C and when
Els played l N it was packed basketball and football.

Speaker 4 (26:36):
Lauren, Ben Davis.

Speaker 8 (26:39):
You have Ben Davis against Warren, Yeah, almost in and
Groves Fisher, Hamilton Southeastern.

Speaker 5 (26:45):
They will bring crowds.

Speaker 1 (26:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (26:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (26:47):
They all travel well, don't they. Yes, they all travel well.
And that's a good that's a good idea. And I
don't think that that's that's off their plates at all.
I mean, I think everything is on the on the table.

Speaker 8 (27:00):
And right now we have almost five students ranked in
nationally going to the NFL and basket football in the
NBA and basketball they're ranked, so a whole lot.

Speaker 3 (27:12):
Yeah, that would be great, okay, Pat, great idea, great idea.

Speaker 1 (27:16):
All righty, thank you, thank you?

Speaker 4 (27:17):
Yeah. Eric said, uh, you know, the community's got ideas,
you know, let's hear them.

Speaker 3 (27:23):
Yeah, and so hey keep them coming. Uh three zero
thirteen ten three one seven for zero thirteen ten.

Speaker 1 (27:31):
Barry you have a comment, go ahead.

Speaker 10 (27:35):
Uh yeah, good afternoon everyone.

Speaker 5 (27:38):
I'm just speaking.

Speaker 4 (27:39):
I'm just one person. That's it.

Speaker 9 (27:42):
I can't buy into it.

Speaker 10 (27:44):
I'm sorry because I love my HBCU. I'm seventy eight.

Speaker 4 (27:51):
I remember the very first.

Speaker 10 (27:52):
One, and uh I got one of my daughters went
to Ankhorn. She was there at the same time the
Steve Near was there. And uh I got a grandson
that goes to Central State. I got a granddaughter to
graduate from toil.

Speaker 5 (28:08):
The c State.

Speaker 10 (28:09):
I got a niece went to Florida, a n em
But I just came by. Buy into it. You're gonna
have a crown, but the crowd is not gonna be
that be What does the parade gonna look like?

Speaker 4 (28:25):
Yeah, I think they said they're going to try to college.
Let me ask you, Barry, how can they rescue what?
How can they stand the delivera that they're in where
they they don't have enough money. Seemingly they don't have
enough support for the HBCU model the way it is now.
I'm not saying HBCUs of course they have support. That

(28:46):
was the only thing we could go to you back
in the day. But how can how can they rescue
this this Circle City class model.

Speaker 10 (28:54):
Well Tina, Tina said it.

Speaker 5 (28:57):
I did have the sponsorship.

Speaker 3 (28:59):
Oh but no, here's but I also I also said
sponsorships are drying up like crazy because sponsors are no
longer just handing money over to not for profits or
organizations just because it's the right thing to do. The
sponsors are under pressure from from their Yeah.

Speaker 1 (29:19):
They're from federal government.

Speaker 4 (29:22):
And I remember the whole movement.

Speaker 3 (29:25):
And shareholders and shareholders everybody wants ROI return on investment.

Speaker 1 (29:30):
Everybody wants to see what are you getting for this?

Speaker 3 (29:32):
You're handing Circle City Classic three hundred thousand dollars a year.

Speaker 1 (29:36):
What's in it for us?

Speaker 3 (29:37):
What are we getting in return for that money that
we are releasing to you? And that Yeah, that in
and of itself, that restriction, that crackdown is not is
not exactly causing the dollars to just come flowing in
to be able to sustain what they once had.

Speaker 4 (29:55):
Yeah, and that Barry, it's it's not only the return
for invested a very good point, but it's just the atmosphere. Hey,
they came in. For example, the defense head of the
Secretary of Pete hecxth came in fired everybody who was
black period. You're gone. So the whole atmosphere has changed

(30:17):
against what black and brown people, frankly have tried to accomplish,
but particularly Black Americans, against your matter. If they're qualified, brilliant,
uh been there teen years, what they've accomplished, awards, whatever,
you're gone. So that's the atmosphere that has was laid

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to bear and that they said, so how do you
how do you go against that?

Speaker 10 (30:45):
Well, I know that right now we're this administration, the
black community is under a great attack. And you said exactly, Well,
if you take it on that point, we got to
get out and vote.

Speaker 1 (31:01):
Okay, okay, okay.

Speaker 4 (31:03):
Okay, do you vote.

Speaker 1 (31:06):
Do you vote Berry?

Speaker 5 (31:08):
Yes, ma'am.

Speaker 3 (31:09):
Okay, Well take somebody with you next time. Take somebody
with you next time. And well, you know, because hey,
it's a domino effect. Domino effect. You take somebody, then
somebody else will take somebody. So we appreciate that. Indeed,
all right, thank you, Barry, appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (31:25):
Thank you.

Speaker 3 (31:26):
You know, there was an old phrase that came to
mind that old folks used to say in the neighbor
but if you black, step back or jump back. If
you're white, it's all right. Oh that sounds like that
sounds like heck sets. Uh yeah, heck sets philosophy. If
you get back and across the board, Yeah, we go
from Barry to from Barry to Sherry.

Speaker 1 (31:46):
Go ahead, Sherry, here she is, Hey.

Speaker 11 (31:53):
Hello, Hello, I just want to I want to find
out about those sponsorships and thirteen.

Speaker 4 (31:59):
I mean, you just mention it a little bit.

Speaker 11 (32:01):
There, But you know, how much money are they really
gonna lose by not bringing in you know, or sticking
with the regular curriculum, you know, bringing in the black
colleges and things. I know, the local stuff would really work,
but how much money would they really get?

Speaker 1 (32:19):
Uh fa millions spon millions? I know.

Speaker 3 (32:23):
So yeah, uh, when you look at when you look
at corporations like McDonald's, Coca Cola, uh and you know
and and the like, they have big money, deep pockets
and they don't mind spreading it around to get their
name in front of as many eyeballs as possible.

Speaker 12 (32:39):
Okay, yeah.

Speaker 3 (32:42):
Yeah, so yeah, lots of money and then uh it
all worked out. It all worked out pretty much hand
in glove because you know, when it was a Coca
Cola Circle City Classic or McDonald's all American, you know whatever. Uh,
the crowds supported that, and and so it was substantiated
that if they gave one of them gave half a

(33:02):
million and we've got sixty to seventy thousand along the
parade route, that's that's a good investment. If one of
them gave two hundred and fifty thousand and we've got
fifty thousand in the in the Dome stadium, that's a
pretty good investment.

Speaker 1 (33:17):
You're getting a pretty good return on your investment. So
over the years it does add up.

Speaker 3 (33:22):
I mean it's very significant, extremely Yeah.

Speaker 13 (33:26):
Yeah, I could see it now.

Speaker 11 (33:27):
Plus it would be you know, great for Miss Allis
and all of them there because.

Speaker 4 (33:32):
They're they're expenses, you know, would not be as much too.

Speaker 11 (33:35):
Yeah, bringing those get those teams to stuff Intel, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (33:39):
Plane, can you they have the charter plane?

Speaker 4 (33:41):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (33:41):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 (33:43):
The cost Boston, didn't you say the cost has gone.

Speaker 1 (33:45):
Up, Yeah, every year, every.

Speaker 4 (33:47):
Year, estancially to bring the teams and abandon the colleges there.

Speaker 3 (33:52):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely substantially to where they can't you just
simply couldn't compete.

Speaker 4 (33:56):
Absolutely, So if.

Speaker 11 (33:58):
You now, well, thank you for the clarity and yeah,
that doesn't make sense. And you know, hopefully they'll get
some you know, some good like like the guy said,
like very before, you know, get some.

Speaker 4 (34:07):
Good rivals in there.

Speaker 1 (34:09):
Good.

Speaker 11 (34:10):
Yeah, Hey, long as they don't bring them long, they
don't bring the violence with the rival.

Speaker 5 (34:16):
And you know what I mean right.

Speaker 3 (34:18):
Right, we had HBCU rivals in years past, and it's
been nothing but a joy to watch. We have we
have during the course of the Circle City Classic. I mean,
my goodness, and it's been really a lot of fun
to watch.

Speaker 1 (34:33):
Thank you. Sherry went from Barry to Sherry. Thank you.
Mister Russell. Go ahead, how are you good? Afternoon?

Speaker 5 (34:42):
I'll be good.

Speaker 14 (34:43):
Uh. You know, I kind of speak as I guess
what they call old.

Speaker 1 (34:51):
But Eric and I are laughing.

Speaker 3 (34:54):
We were just talking about that phrase right before we
came downstairs.

Speaker 1 (34:57):
But but go ahead, yeah we were. Go ahead, mister Russell.

Speaker 14 (35:00):
That's what they can seemed to call me these days.

Speaker 5 (35:02):
But anyway, it's okay.

Speaker 12 (35:07):
This to Russell, this whole.

Speaker 14 (35:10):
Thing from a historic standpoint, you know, late seventies, early eighties,
you remember Pearls Lounge at Illinois at Illinois and a
clean place between twenty person and twenty. Well, you know
that used to be kind of like the warring ho
I guess you could say, when when a lot of

(35:32):
folks would gather, particularly on the week on Fridays, you.

Speaker 3 (35:35):
Know, but on weekdays it was a hot spot for
lunch and business lunches, and black and white alike were
over there at Pearls every day Monday through Friday during
you know, during lunchtime hours too.

Speaker 15 (35:48):
So yeah, yeah, And I mentioned that because things are
just kind of perfect for a so called city classic
with the story Barkeley Black colleges and universities.

Speaker 14 (36:03):
Because I can remember one Friday we were talking. It
was late I think it was Joe Slash, Charles Williams
and others. You know, we were all talking and we
were we were marking about to buy you classic between
Southern University and and how successful it was, you know,

(36:24):
so we can'd say, well, what what why can't we
do something like that up here in Indian as well,
the fact that things were kind of right because Charles
Williams he had had served in Vietnam. He used to
be a promoter of bringing entertainment acts in Vietnam for
the soldiers.

Speaker 4 (36:43):
You know, That's where he started yeah.

Speaker 14 (36:46):
And so things are just kind of the atmosphere was
just kind of right. But anyway, from that standpoint, it
kind of marphed into what became the first Circle City
Classic and we had I think.

Speaker 5 (37:02):
It was May hunting.

Speaker 14 (37:06):
Charles Williams joined his administration and they kind of worked
together and it kind of was, you know, became a
big deal. And I can remember the first one that
was held. People it was so crowded. I mean, the
you know, the aisles were so crowded. People were just

(37:28):
you know, it was like a reunion of people around
the city, you know, and.

Speaker 1 (37:32):
It was great, always has been.

Speaker 14 (37:35):
So it was brand new and it worked. It was
a big success.

Speaker 3 (37:40):
October thirteenth, nineteen eighty four was the very first one,
so you.

Speaker 14 (37:45):
Know, it was amazing. It was an amazing time. But
as things go on, you know, others started to see
that success and they started to copy it, and we
have kind of what we have today in terms of
a lot of cities having a different but a lot of.

Speaker 3 (38:06):
The cities Alice made it got out, not meaning to
interrupt you, mister Russell, but Alice made a really good
point that there were like over twenty cities across the
US that embarked in this, you know, that took off
in this area and had Classics, and for the majority
of them, they're either having financial difficulties.

Speaker 1 (38:24):
Or they've had to abandon it all together.

Speaker 3 (38:26):
So Indianapolis isn't the only place that's had to struggle
with this, you know, with this business model, so to speak.

Speaker 14 (38:33):
Well, that's my point because success, you know, you have
to look at success impacts different ways. You know, it
can be like a plus, it can be like a miner.
So when when other it's like anything else. You know,
when you come out with a new product, and then
other companies start, you know, kind of knock a knockoffs

(38:56):
of it, so to speak, you know, and then so
the original suffers to some extent. But anyway, what.

Speaker 1 (39:04):
My point was, Yeah, classic is having some problems.

Speaker 14 (39:09):
Yeah it was something new and the time was just right,
but now things have changed a lot from a lot
of different perspectives. So to come up with the idea
of something new I think is a great a great
move because you know, any time you promote anything as

(39:32):
a risk involved and I think the fact that they
have come up with this new model, I think it
might be successful because when you look at it. How
many people were really into particularly at that time. How
many people are really into the historically black colleges and universities.

Speaker 5 (39:55):
Not a whole lot.

Speaker 14 (39:56):
But it's by them having the scholarship programs and bringing
in representative from the schools and having youngsters decided to
go to those schools. It was a big success, definitely,
no question about it. So but you know, when you
have that success, it's like any business. The schools, you know,

(40:19):
they're going to start charging more, which they did, which
they have to come, you know. So it's kind of
like a law of diminishing returns, you know what I mean.
It's like you have success in bring success, but then
you have the knockoffs and then that lessons is success.

(40:41):
So I think the trying new model is not a
bad idea because you have people that are investing in
the local high schools, like you like mentioning. You have
those fans that are natural fans, and the competition is
there and they can relate more to them, so to speak.

(41:01):
So I think it's it's a it's a you know,
a good risk really in terms of trying something.

Speaker 1 (41:07):
Oh yeah, because something has to be tried.

Speaker 3 (41:08):
You have to try something you know you have to.

Speaker 14 (41:13):
And then the other thing is when when you know,
if if other city's trying to do the same thing,
that's gonna lessen the demand from the colleges and they
may drape drop their prices, you know, in terms of
coming you see what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (41:28):
Yeah, you have to weigh a.

Speaker 14 (41:30):
Lot of a lot of different factors. And I think
the fact that when you try something new, it's not
a bad thing to do. And I think, uh, you
have a natural affinity from the fans, the vocal fans,
uh that can relate more to the high school, so
to speak. And so I would say it's a good risk.

Speaker 3 (41:51):
Okay, Okay, Well, I appreciate your comment, and I'm sure
if Allison is listening or anybody at IB is listening,
they appreciate the comment.

Speaker 1 (42:00):
So, you know, on the thought.

Speaker 3 (42:02):
So let's go back to the phone line three one
seven for eight zero thirteen ten three one seven eight
zero thirteen ten. Sandra, go ahead, how are you?

Speaker 16 (42:11):
Hello?

Speaker 9 (42:12):
Hi?

Speaker 1 (42:12):
How are you?

Speaker 17 (42:13):
Can you hear me?

Speaker 1 (42:14):
Yes? I can hear you?

Speaker 4 (42:14):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (42:15):
Hello?

Speaker 17 (42:16):
Can you hear me?

Speaker 1 (42:17):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (42:17):
Yeah, you hear you.

Speaker 17 (42:19):
Okay, I just wanted to comment on the conversation. I
remember when I first moved here in seventy one, how
Circle City Classic was such a great force in the
city under the leadership of Charles Lillams. And my comment

(42:43):
on all this being said is that I realized what
a great resource he had with backing from the Mayor's
office and also community leaders that were on the original
group to help them build.

Speaker 18 (43:04):
What they did was build.

Speaker 19 (43:06):
Relationships with those large companies like Coca Cola and McDonald's
that you mentioned and others, and the relationship that they
had with them over the years was what helped boost
and keep that money coming in. And you say this
because I worked with Visit Indie over the years, and

(43:28):
so we worked of course with Circle City Classic, and
I just remember the relationship that those original planners had
and I think once that left, once Charles passed on,
and we lost that connection and those leaders that had

(43:50):
those community connections with these large organizations that brought in
the money to support, then we felt away.

Speaker 17 (44:01):
And also I think other of course other cities then
copied what we had and then they were able to
bring in the money that we were losing.

Speaker 3 (44:11):
Yeah, and you know, yeah, and Sandra, that's a wonderful point, James.
Relationship building is everything, and relationships Charles Williams was just
a master master marketer.

Speaker 1 (44:23):
Uh probably the biggest cheerleader.

Speaker 3 (44:25):
For Indiana Black Expo in the city of Indianapolis that
you'd ever want to see. I don't think that we've
had one since then. Uh, but uh yeah, he really was.

Speaker 1 (44:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (44:35):
Well, like mister Russell said, real quick, he started this
by entertaining the troops over in Vietnam. I mean when
he was over there, he was his heart was in it,
promotions and marketing. That's where he began to develop it.
And when he came back to Indianapolis he realized, like
Sandra said, relationships. You know, you you build relations with

(44:56):
these people and say, hey, you know there's a market
over here too, and it has to be you know, HBCUs
black people, communities that we've got all of this the
fosmal income, we deserve too to be uh you know,
to be served and to be you know, to have
some of those philanthropic dollars dollars in those corporate investment

(45:18):
dollars in Yeah.

Speaker 17 (45:21):
Yeah, is that what you wanted to say, Sandra, No,
I just think that that's probably the key that we
have missed for a number of years, and it takes
time to build those relationships. So if we do it again,
it's gonna take time to build the the trust in

(45:45):
the community for the event to get behind it.

Speaker 1 (45:50):
Yeah. Yeah, and we've.

Speaker 17 (45:52):
Got to have we've got to have those leaders in
the community to build those relationships with those organizations that
have the money.

Speaker 20 (46:01):
But that time.

Speaker 21 (46:03):
So yeah, you know, people like and I would just
want to say what people like Joe Slash and Sam Jones.

Speaker 4 (46:17):
And some of the others I think, you know, Charles
Williams of course, Uh, people like that. I haven't been
here as long as Sandra, but you know, quite a while.
And it but it was a different it was a
different I think demographic, it was a different community. It

(46:37):
was a smaller black community, and uh, people like Mayor Huddon,
they wanted those relationships. So whether it will take time again,
I don't know. I do know this that we are
just as deserving, still deservings as those corporate dollars that
they give to all other uh thropic and uh, you know,

(47:02):
other community initiatives that they feel that they want their
brand expressed in. Why shouldn't they give them to Indiana
Black Expol Indiana Circle City Classic. We are just as
viable a market as anybody else. That's the way, you know.

Speaker 3 (47:18):
Yeah, and we but again, what they're looking for because
their dollars are shrinking, they're looking for more of a
return on investment. And with our crowds shrinking, uh and
fewer people see you know, behinds in seats and you
know faces to see that, they're having a harder time

(47:40):
justifying the you know, despite the relationships. So yeah, relationships
are going to be great. Uh And and it would
be wonderful if we could get some more relationship building.

Speaker 4 (47:50):
But but that's not it. But that that's not all.

Speaker 3 (47:53):
That's not that's a good part of it. That's a
good part of it because you can shake loose a
whole lot money. You can shake loose money a whole lot,
chake loose some money a lot quicker if there's a
relationship there, then if it's just on paper, you certainly
can't because you're going to get a closer look. But
American Family Insurance, Coca Cola, McDonald's, you.

Speaker 1 (48:11):
Know, look at the wide insurance nationwide.

Speaker 4 (48:13):
Look at these companies, richest companies in the in the world,
in the US for sure.

Speaker 3 (48:19):
Yeah, yeah, so, but but look at what they've all
fallen off.

Speaker 1 (48:24):
I mean, do you hear American family and when.

Speaker 4 (48:26):
Some when someone dies, who has those relationships and then
the relationship goes with them, don't have.

Speaker 1 (48:31):
To be a better Yeah, it's got away.

Speaker 3 (48:33):
Next Indeed, we still got calls and we will get
to them right after this very very quick break.

Speaker 1 (48:40):
We'll be right back.

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Speaker 3 (49:10):
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and we can review a couple of things. People have
really wanted to talk about. Ib's pivot from HBCU college
football to area high school football. So hey, interesting folks
are weighing in on that, So let's go back to

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the phone lines.

Speaker 1 (49:32):
Brian, you're up next, go ahead, how are you?

Speaker 4 (49:35):
Yes, thank you.

Speaker 9 (49:40):
Well, my point of view is one I attended the
HBCU All Star Game during the NCAA and to me
that you had the young man on the show that
was the I guess the sponsor.

Speaker 5 (50:01):
Or whatever founder founder of the founder.

Speaker 9 (50:05):
Yeah, but but I went to the game, but it
was could have been better, I'll just say it correctly,
could have been better attended. You all did what your part,
But TV advertisements or what have you not, that's where
the dispronect. And it didn't have anything to do with

(50:28):
the ind the end of Black Expo. But if they're
transitioning to basketball, that was there. That was their talk
in the wheel to jump on board and get that going.

Speaker 3 (50:40):
Well, there's going to be a basketball element that they're
going to try out for twenty twenty seven. That's also
in the long term planning as well that she was
talking about.

Speaker 1 (50:50):
Yeah, that was there.

Speaker 9 (50:53):
That was their chance to climb befored then and and
prop it up and get.

Speaker 1 (51:00):
Engaged saying yeah, yeah, okay.

Speaker 9 (51:03):
And that that was the myssed opportunity for me.

Speaker 4 (51:06):
And so yeah, Brian, when you say it could have
been better attended. What was your impressions of the crowd.

Speaker 9 (51:14):
The majority of the crowd were, uh somewhat. I will
say maybe thirty five percent HBCU alumnus from various colleges
that it was nice to see that walking around the
arena and then in the crowd. But I'm just saying

(51:38):
that they that was a missed, missed opportunity sleep at
the switch, as they say, And so, uh, they can
do that because I went to Fisk which is in Nashville.

Speaker 5 (51:51):
And the football team was misbranded.

Speaker 9 (51:53):
Because of the cost to the institution. It's private, it
doesn't get state funding. And these schools that that they
want to bring in in terms of football teams, as
she was stating, is an expensive. It's an expense for
the schools and.

Speaker 4 (52:14):
For the city.

Speaker 9 (52:17):
Somebody's moving papers or what I'm getting. I'm getting pushback
or feedback. But anyway, Uh.

Speaker 22 (52:27):
I was just turning the page in my notebook. Yeah,
go ahead, got you gotcha. If they wanted to be
to be a success, and I'm not going to put
the end all be all on on the Uh. A
few black franchisees of McDonald's or whatever, they don't have

(52:48):
to put McDonald's name, but they can put their money
on the table. And basketball teams typically typically have you know,
twelve players, so so the expense is minimized with with
the accommodation's hotel, food and and what have you not,
And so it can turn into a successful venture only

(53:13):
if it's done in the right way. Number two, uh
some of the names that you all afore mentioned were
black Republicans that had the necessary uh uh.

Speaker 9 (53:28):
To two people who had the resources. So I'm a Democrat,
but I'm just saying you have to put it out there,
everything on the plate or on the table as it's
as it fed. And you know, if we don't have

(53:50):
people that that that look like us, they don't have
to necessarily vote like us, but that they have access
to the monetary means who substantiate uh the the monetary
sources that that that are accommodating, then then that we

(54:11):
will be bloundering. And and and you know, it's a
long day that that that's that's a lot of time, energy,
energy and effort from our community or whoever is volunteering
or willing too to uh uh participate that then that
it will be a lost cause. And with that being

(54:34):
said if if, if you're not willing to change course,
you know, you're going to steer right into the minds
and and that's where we where we're at with that.
That the the high schoolers participating is a great thing.

Speaker 4 (54:49):
But yeah, if you just work with question. When you
said that, uh, some of the people who were engaged
or had connections with the with the city corporate elite
and also the city political elite, you're saying they were Republicans, Brian,
Uh that these black leaders were Republicans who had those connections.

Speaker 9 (55:13):
Not not not all of them. Just lash Slash Slash
was a Republican.

Speaker 4 (55:20):
Yeah he was.

Speaker 9 (55:21):
And so you it takes a coalition of effort, time,
energy and efforts to uh substantialize what what what what
it takes to uh make make the thing happen. But
at the same time, you know, Chicago got one in

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terms of Circle City or or black college football. We
were we were the seed and then it exploded beyond
you know us, So we have direct competition. But at
the same time, I want to transition to one other
thing topic of discussion we need to have as or

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whoever it is.

Speaker 5 (56:07):
On the radio.

Speaker 9 (56:10):
I went to a concert last night for the first
time in a long time to the Vogue because I
wanted to see a blues A young dynamic blue Star
that was featured during the Grammys was here last night.
But on my way home, I came up College and
turned on seventy first Street and went across Meridian. Meridian

(56:32):
has no street lights on, and it's like, how is
this happening? It wants to be a world class city.
I'm tired of people propping up or professing that Indian
no place. I still call it no place.

Speaker 5 (56:45):
Noted down for real.

Speaker 9 (56:47):
Entire Meridian at seventy first and I looked down before
I crossed it north going toward eighty sixth Street, there
were no lights, no street lights. It's like, what are
we doing? Everything's going downtown and this is beyond prophetic
and and and it really scares me in terms of

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what what what what? What have we actually become.

Speaker 20 (57:15):
It?

Speaker 9 (57:16):
We need to have a s and whoever else is
in charge of the street lights. I don't care whether
whether it's the city or or who have you. Meridian
is a major thoroughfare, but they're gonna build these freaking dumb,
in my opinion, bus lines. But you can't keep regular
street light.

Speaker 5 (57:35):
I can drive home.

Speaker 9 (57:36):
Why am I driving like I'm out in the country.
I might as well be out in Avon or Brownsburg
or brown Tucky, I call it. And that's what we've become.
People aren't seeing or standing up and recognizing what we're
we're not seeing.

Speaker 3 (57:53):
Okay, all right, Brian, all good point observations. And I'm
not sure who the Thank you, Brian, appreciate it. I'm
not sure who the city county councilor is in that
area on that street. Uh, around seventy first of Meridian,
I'm assuming, is what he says.

Speaker 4 (58:09):
Yeah, but it's DPW that takes care of the infrastruction.
But you're right, yeah, whoever the concounse there should be
notified immediately in some.

Speaker 2 (58:22):
Of those areas. People want it that way.

Speaker 3 (58:24):
They don't want some case light's going lighting going into
the houses. So uh, Dr Brown, Doctor Brown, Doctor Brown,
got a big show coming up tomorrow, do you, sir?

Speaker 1 (58:34):
How are you?

Speaker 18 (58:35):
Yep? We got we got a big one coming up.
I'm it was just interesting when you talk about black
ax bo I got I have all the facts. Uh.
And I was telling Eric that Charlie when he came
aboard with us over Lee starting to do the marketing

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that Dad asked him, And I said, Charlie would come
over my house all the time because I liked the
I liked the cook fish and stuff back in the day.
And Charlie would come over here and spend and he
was kind of large then, and we would talk about
and he was a marketing expert. And I've been listening

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to all of the people, and I commend the young
lady who is attempting to make an adjustment. See the
funny thing about Black Expo and Circle City Classics. I
remember exactly how it was all laid out. But here
here's the point that nobody really do you know how

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much the tobacco company put into it?

Speaker 3 (59:43):
And the tobacco companies yes remember.

Speaker 5 (59:47):
And the.

Speaker 4 (59:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 18 (59:50):
And it was also I remember because I had Delta Airlines,
Millery you think about all of them, and those were
and quiet as it has kept. Lily put some based
money in there. Yeah, that's that's not talked about. And

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Lily had connections to get other sources to be contributories.
Now here is a trick in this thing. And I said, well,
maybe I'll say it. I've said to you all at
a particular point in the eighties going up close to
the nineties, there was discuss and Charlie and my Dad

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and UH and Joe Slash and all the people calling
up UH. The one group that Sister Girl can start
working on is the group called you don't heard them
called the Divine Nine. They should become a part of
this initiative. Because the circle City Classics in DNA, Black

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Expo was state. That meant there were other cities of
this state, not just the Hindi nature. And that's got
to be restructured. Now that there was a strategy, the politics,
I call it, the politics got kind of unique because
Black Expo and its whole programmatics could be legislated into

(01:01:19):
a operation that tax dollars would continue. That imagine James,
Eric and Tina if a bill was created that it's
not the word legalized, but put it into a corporate
structure that's part of the state of Indiana. And is

(01:01:44):
that possible?

Speaker 4 (01:01:45):
James that yeah, I mean, yeah, well we've been talking
about who is that the caller that talked about I
mean he got to Tina's favorite word at the end,
you know, vote, you know, we we gotta we gotta vote,
you know there Barry on the you're talked about we
got to vote, and if we vote, because back in
the day, don't you remember, I know, you remember doctor

(01:02:06):
Brown when Evan Bay I think was governor at least.

Speaker 5 (01:02:10):
Around his term.

Speaker 4 (01:02:11):
Sometime they it was like the Democrats had a majority.
And because I remember, yeah, yeah, the amazed Carolyn Mays,
who was my neighbor a couple few years back. She
you know, she'd just go up and down the streets
and I'm Carolyne Mains and I'm your representative. She would say,

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you know, like she would say, like, you know, they
want to pass us budget and we have a conference
committee of senators I mean, excuse me, a conference committee. Yeah,
a senators and House representatives in the state House. And
I'm on the conference committee and we have, you know,
a majority, and we're like no, no, So right now,

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it's like unthinkable that we would have even we need
four seats. The Democrats do rather to uh effect your
way a check on them where they can't do anything
without a quorum. So to some people, it's like unthinkable
that we would have a majority of not many more

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representative But it comes down to the vote. It's within
our power.

Speaker 18 (01:03:20):
That's why you're correct. And see I have to go
way back to birch By and the relationships that he
had with the black leadership along with with Richard Lueger.
They they were Republicans and Democrats, but when it came
to community and the movements, the Indian Indiana had become

(01:03:44):
a movement statement and consequently of the what you would
say the politicians were would work together when it came
to floating and moving money. And you know in the
in the NAIs was struggling with desegregation too busting. But
to get back to the point is that with black exposure,

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they're going they're going to we got to help them
and we've got to ugu that. But do that too
with James says, we've got to vote. Yeah, but we
got to vote and and and after we vote, we're
going to have to make our persons, uh, our congressmen
and senators become more focused not on Oh there's another

(01:04:35):
group you can add to it. I think B E.
T and black entertainers can be have an impact on
their program here.

Speaker 4 (01:04:42):
Yeah yeah, all good, yeah good.

Speaker 1 (01:04:47):
Brown And you're always wisdom, always wisdom.

Speaker 12 (01:04:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:04:51):
So who again is on your show tomorrow.

Speaker 18 (01:04:53):
We're winning experiences coming on to deal with the constitution.
That's uh, that's brother Bob Wall and this group that
we're we're letting them kind of educate, but in regard
to understanding the constitution and understanding how to become more active.

(01:05:15):
And it's not just for young people. See you forget.
We got a lot of old folks. Welcome to the club,
y'all the young ones.

Speaker 4 (01:05:23):
I'm doctor Brown. Are they going to deal with the
state constitution or the federal or beow I.

Speaker 18 (01:05:30):
We we're doing the federal but you have just you
have just made me add that to their process called
the state.

Speaker 4 (01:05:39):
Yes, So ask them this question, because there's a lot
of things about regifting is in the news all over
the South. Ask him what say? James Patterson, who was
on Tina Collsby show, wants to know what does the
US constitutions say about elections and who has the power

(01:06:01):
in elections? That's my question and I'll be listening.

Speaker 18 (01:06:05):
Okay, if they ain't got a cross called in please.

Speaker 3 (01:06:10):
Okay, all right, all right, doctor Brown, tomorrow morning, Thank
you tomorrow morning, nine am right here A thirteen ten
and ninety five point one FM.

Speaker 18 (01:06:19):
And guess what for the next show, we'll go back
if you were listening, We'll go back to gold and Silver, okay,
and where blacks can be impacted in understanding that economics.

Speaker 1 (01:06:32):
Love it, all right, doctor Brown?

Speaker 3 (01:06:34):
Alrighty, alrighty okay, okay, thank you, you're listening tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (01:06:39):
All right, thank you.

Speaker 3 (01:06:41):
Let's let's try this one, Larry, what did you want
to share about the Classics.

Speaker 12 (01:06:47):
Here's a classic T shirt from twenty oh seven.

Speaker 4 (01:06:50):
Right.

Speaker 12 (01:06:50):
The sponsors are Family, American Family.

Speaker 1 (01:06:53):
You can tell Insurance that's who I.

Speaker 12 (01:06:55):
Sponsor the Classic Weekend. And the Coca Cola companies certainly
and sponsored the Circle City and they have a very
professional T shirt there Brenda on the back in front.
The problem is they're never coming back to sponsor any
black event because of the way that target had been treated.
They don't want to have their name drug through the

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mud because they don't support black events, so they're never
going to do it. And Joe Slash was a Republican.
I knew Joe Slash. He was with Goldsmith, he was
at Hawks with one, but you know he was with
that nuts were he was helping people in the black community.
But you know, when all our programs failed. When Governor

(01:07:40):
battuk Over and Bill Crawford and then got in charge
of Ways and Means, I was actually down at the
State House near the Chamber of Representatives when Tony Duncan,
he was my neighbor for about ten years. When Tony
Duncan and Bill Crawford were talking about increasing his fees,
he was trying to get another three dollars added on

(01:08:02):
to his speed for letting them set up these laws
we have in this state right now with landlord tenant
going on, and I would just avict anybody that's concerned
about the actual homeless problem we have here in the city,
which is really a problem, and it's being kept at large.
It says, right, you can go to your computers, go

(01:08:23):
to James, go to out to your computer. Article nine
State Institutions. It's the end and a constitution now, it
says in section three County asylum farms, it says counting
may provide farms listen to the language as an asylum

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for those persons who, by reasons of age, infirmity, or
other misfortune, have claims upon the sympathy and aid of society.
This can be done in any County without any legis
lative action from the state whatsoever. Why hadn't it been done?
I mean when I ran for mayor in fifteen, I

(01:09:07):
bought this issue to the table. They ignored it. But people,
the homeless problem here in this city is about ready
to exacerbate. And all these five oh one C three's
and the Public Health and Safety program UH Proposal number
one twelve. Maggie Lewis was certainly the president when that
was pushed through. All of this done is admire our

(01:09:30):
city and turn our city into a junkie factory. And
that's what it's doing. All these programs dealing with mental health, Hey,
they're nothing but selling dope.

Speaker 4 (01:09:39):
That's what they're doing.

Speaker 3 (01:09:40):
Okay, Larry, appreciate your call. Three one seven four eight
zero thirteen ten. Three one seven four eight zero thirteen ten.

Speaker 1 (01:09:46):
Jeff, go ahead. How are you.

Speaker 14 (01:09:50):
Hey, Peter James or how you guys.

Speaker 1 (01:09:51):
Doing doing good? Doing good? Thanks?

Speaker 16 (01:09:54):
Yeah, I was going to change the think a little bit.

Speaker 5 (01:09:57):
Uh.

Speaker 16 (01:09:58):
Eric PRB heard of this guy to the name Chuck
the Builder. Me and if you guys I've heard that before,
shut the Builder.

Speaker 4 (01:10:07):
No, I know on that one.

Speaker 18 (01:10:09):
Jeff, I'm clueless on.

Speaker 3 (01:10:10):
That chuck c h u G No, I don't I
don't know se a shu d he is shut the builder.

Speaker 1 (01:10:18):
No, I don't the build Bob the building.

Speaker 16 (01:10:26):
Well, you might want to google him and go and
I'm gonna tell you why he's interest. He is a YouTuber,
a white guy, right, and he goes with the total
black strangers and he calls him the inn word and
he don't call them bunch of names.

Speaker 5 (01:10:40):
And then when they try to defend him, you know, when.

Speaker 16 (01:10:42):
Black boys get up to stay come after him, he
pulls a gun on him, claiming that they're trying to
attach Well, a couple of days ago, a couple of
days ago, he's been doing this for a white man
or rest the newer's time. Well, he got shot and
he shot another man brother. The brother is not doing
very well judgment shot and Chudge looking at sixty years

(01:11:05):
in gris. The reason he does is that he gets
attention on on Facebook and YouTube and you just just
just google the guy.

Speaker 4 (01:11:15):
But he goes up, you.

Speaker 16 (01:11:16):
Know, he goes up to you, j that called you
the any word. And then when you grew any clock
and he puts a gun on you glint at your attack.

Speaker 4 (01:11:24):
How do you fell the same. Sounds like he has
a mental mental.

Speaker 1 (01:11:27):
C h U d I think he's a h A
H d U the builder, Chude the builder.

Speaker 4 (01:11:33):
Okay, okay, sounds like there's a mental issue there.

Speaker 16 (01:11:38):
He has a lot of uh got a lot of likes.
Is a YouTube channel, you know, and yeah, you know
you know that's his old stick. One of the reason
I'm bringing it out seaway for some reason, these figures
are getting boled and whatever and uh yeah, yeah, just

(01:12:00):
like you know, don't think is a good thing because
now they're exposed and you deal. But this guy, yeah
held the black Holks you know, do a little black
strangers that he starts you know, early end word and
calling him mucky and whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:12:16):
Who videotapes his his pieces?

Speaker 16 (01:12:19):
Either he does?

Speaker 3 (01:12:21):
He does, so how does he manipulate the camera and
the gun? And I mean somebody along somebody's videotaping along
with him.

Speaker 1 (01:12:29):
A yeah, he would have to be.

Speaker 3 (01:12:31):
I mean I'm always thinking like he can't be if
he's doing this, somebody is videotaping him do this right.

Speaker 16 (01:12:38):
You know, his money bro whatever? But yeah, well you're
looking at that prison guy now.

Speaker 3 (01:12:44):
Because he can't he can't possibly videotape all of those
interactions that you're talking about, like calling them name, then
pulling a gun and then no, he's somebody has to
be right there along with him doing that.

Speaker 2 (01:12:55):
This did the shooting happened hopping outside of a courthouse
to see I see that.

Speaker 4 (01:13:02):
Yeah. What was the year? A couple of days again.

Speaker 2 (01:13:07):
This year, a couple of days ago. He's on YouTube.

Speaker 3 (01:13:10):
Shut the builder, Yeah, got just got a videographer.

Speaker 4 (01:13:15):
Yeah, he does has to major.

Speaker 3 (01:13:19):
Yeah, all right, Jeff, Well, well I'll take a closer
look and get off the air. All right, Well, thank you,
have a great weekend. Indeed, indeed, let's see uh see,
go ahead. Do you have a question about AEES or comments?

Speaker 4 (01:13:34):
Yeah, good, good afternoon.

Speaker 13 (01:13:36):
You guys had a lady on by the name I
think her name was Joyce or something. She was something about.

Speaker 4 (01:13:42):
Her Citizens Energy Energy Assistance.

Speaker 13 (01:13:46):
Program and her Citizens Energy Group bill I think it was.
And I'm going through the same thing. I applied for
my sisters the first of October. It took this time
this year. It took them seven months to finually applied.

Speaker 3 (01:14:01):
The that wasn't Joyce, it was somebody else. But I
know what you're talking about yeah.

Speaker 13 (01:14:06):
Yeah, but but now I'm looking as I look at
my bill, my bill, I always keep the water stewer
paid up, and I and they already knew that the
energy assistance probably gonna cover, but now they're they're then
stuck an extra overcharge on my bill and I've been
I talked to the girl this morning because I asked

(01:14:27):
them to rerun my bill. I got on my bill
from last year, so I know they can go back
so many years. And I got online.

Speaker 4 (01:14:33):
Too, but they're charging me.

Speaker 13 (01:14:36):
They only applied. They only applied thirty about thirty four dollars.

Speaker 23 (01:14:43):
Yeah, talking about the point was that they raised her
raised when they got around to.

Speaker 4 (01:14:53):
Approving the energy assistance, and it was just like a wash.
It didn't you know. She didn't see any benefit from it.
That's what I recall from.

Speaker 1 (01:15:01):
This exactly the same way.

Speaker 13 (01:15:03):
And I've got somebody checking it now. And I also
talked to the.

Speaker 5 (01:15:07):
Rep this morning, scene supposed.

Speaker 13 (01:15:08):
To be senior rep. And we did the math together
and she said they cred I said they didn't credit
me because my water sewerd bill is paid. The only
thing that the energy system needed to cover was that
that black where they didn't have enough to pay and
it kicked in. But I don't owe this extra eighteen

(01:15:29):
fifty six. Y'all trying to charge me. I don't care
how much you try to say we did the mask.
She said, she gonna get back with me by this evening, That's.

Speaker 5 (01:15:36):
What she said.

Speaker 13 (01:15:37):
I said, well, y'all got on my information because y'all
asked for that. Soon's y'all right, But I mean, I
don't know why they're doing that, and even why it
even took seven months this time. And I went to
a special program they had about the end of April
that was finding through Andre Carrson or something that was
at the Ivy Tech. The girl that works at John Byner,

(01:15:59):
she caught. She into the information in right then and there,
but it still did not reach Citizen's Energy Group till
make the person. Then they did even you pay all
of it. They just paid a portion of it. And
then now they're saying I owe this extra amount and
I don't know how it's gonna turn out yet, I said,
because we both did the math and we both were

(01:16:20):
it in agreeance, you know that. So she got to
question somebody else and said, please do and get back
and get me the answer. But it's like they're tacking
on extra money or I don't know what's going on.
Who's doing the building and the math.

Speaker 3 (01:16:34):
Or do see and and let us know how that
turns out. Call us back and let us know what
you find out. Yeah, and okay, because you know, yeah,
thank you.

Speaker 4 (01:16:47):
That is up. It's kind of it's kind of developing
a pattern. We've got you people who called it.

Speaker 1 (01:16:56):
Yeah, that's clear. That's clear. Okay. Uh, let's go to
call her on line six. That's Joyce. Go ahead, Joyce.
How are you? Joyce?

Speaker 24 (01:17:04):
I'm fine, ready for the weekend.

Speaker 7 (01:17:06):
I know you are.

Speaker 24 (01:17:09):
Thanks for taking my call. And did anybody hear the
tornado warning at eleven today on Friday?

Speaker 4 (01:17:19):
No, those are test sirens. It's eleven o'clock.

Speaker 24 (01:17:28):
Did not go off in my neighborhood. I can tell
you about the polls they putting up it. Who are contacted?
But y'all should be aware eleven o'clock wherever you ad
in Indiana. But the reason they ain't got no lights
in Carlos because Carmelos is own city. Did y'all not
notice how they separated It's almost like Fountain Square and Speedway.

(01:17:53):
They got their own revenue, and we also have a
source of revenue. I remember back in the day when
the uh you could hear the cars racing. I'm like,
can I get a break? And I'm all, well, over
here Appost twenty one, they had it piped in like that,
the water, the rivers arising, you know who living. They

(01:18:17):
want us to it step away. Oh, it's just too
much with all the many distractions going on. And I said,
the last time AS was supposed to have a meeting,
they canceled it, did.

Speaker 8 (01:18:30):
They not, I'm.

Speaker 4 (01:18:36):
One of those listening sessions. They can now.

Speaker 24 (01:18:38):
It was downtown City County building. They canceled it because
they was under threat.

Speaker 4 (01:18:45):
Where it was? I said, I said, okay, let me
let they canceled. They're okay, Well, I just wanted to
get the regorstrate it was a listening session that they canceled.
And what I didn't put where it was, I I
could look that up where it was canceled because of
They said there was something to do with security or something.

Speaker 24 (01:19:07):
Yet, of course when people got receipts, they feel and threatened.
But hey, the distractions are enormous and our president and
already stated he don't care about the people.

Speaker 1 (01:19:21):
Okay, y'all, why.

Speaker 24 (01:19:22):
Don't y'all tell him he walked around butt naked, you know,
I mean seriously, could not have on clothes. I'm through.
Thank you, I having.

Speaker 1 (01:19:31):
Joyce before you go. Did you get the information that
we qd.

Speaker 24 (01:19:35):
I did Bob Walms, the one I mentioned off top
but yeah, yeah, it's spelled Bill s some it's start
with O.

Speaker 1 (01:19:48):
S I and in district twelve district.

Speaker 24 (01:19:54):
And the attorney general and no mail and no checks
and yeah, they would like me to curl up and
dry and blow away. But you can't be assaulting the elderly.
But Tina, I appreciate that information. It was very helpful.
I'm in the twelfth history. That's what you told me.

Speaker 1 (01:20:14):
Well, that's what you told us.

Speaker 24 (01:20:15):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:20:16):
Well I was off.

Speaker 24 (01:20:17):
Full twenty one and gave you my address.

Speaker 3 (01:20:20):
Yeah, and when you gave us that information, that told
us that that's where you were, so essentially.

Speaker 1 (01:20:24):
You told us.

Speaker 24 (01:20:25):
Appreciate that.

Speaker 1 (01:20:26):
All right, Well, good good luck to you, Joyce, Thank you,
thank you for coming.

Speaker 3 (01:20:32):
You know, yeah, we try, we try.

Speaker 1 (01:20:39):
We tried try. It just doesn't see anyway. We'll be
right back.

Speaker 6 (01:20:47):
Let's get back to the conversation. It's Community Connection with
Tina Cosby on phrase AM thirteen ten ninety five point
one FM.

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Go ahead, pair on line two, Go ahead, How are you?

Speaker 25 (01:21:57):
Oh, good afternoon, everybody, good afternoon. In I just wanted
to chime in and just say that I have all
the faith and confidence in the world that Alice Watson
and Latitia and Rry and ed Kewanda and all the
folks Jennifer. I believe that they know what they're doing

(01:22:20):
and and I believe they're they're doing what they can
to help save the organization. There you go, and uh,
we just need to support them. Yeah, and this is
not the first time we haven't had a football game,
am I right?

Speaker 12 (01:22:36):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:22:36):
No, they had all bands when they've tried a number
of things to uh lessen the strain on the money flow, they've.

Speaker 1 (01:22:45):
Tried another thing.

Speaker 3 (01:22:45):
So yeah, they're at least they're out there pitching. They're
still trying because they want to keep it park. They
want to keep serving the community with something during the fall, and.

Speaker 5 (01:22:55):
They still own the name.

Speaker 25 (01:22:58):
It's you know, we're in a bad position right now
and it's talk the country.

Speaker 5 (01:23:03):
It's happening with h Yeah. Uh it's it's largely due
to our own making. Yeah, we blew it.

Speaker 4 (01:23:12):
We blew it.

Speaker 25 (01:23:13):
In twenty sixteen, we got wrapped around the axle about
mass incarceration and didn't go vote for Hillary.

Speaker 5 (01:23:19):
Of course you ran a bad campaign, but still, uh
she should have won. Uh.

Speaker 25 (01:23:24):
We did the thing uh because you know with a
kamloo because a lot of black both religious, to be honest.

Speaker 5 (01:23:31):
Because she's married to a white man.

Speaker 14 (01:23:33):
Uh you know.

Speaker 1 (01:23:34):
Uh oh that'll do it, won't it. Yeah, that'll that'll
keep all wars from happening.

Speaker 4 (01:23:40):
Unfortunately, some people that's how some people do.

Speaker 12 (01:23:45):
So.

Speaker 1 (01:23:45):
Yeah, Unfortunately that's the art stick that some people use.
And it's it's sin, it's sen.

Speaker 5 (01:23:50):
We need to support uh weed support black events.

Speaker 25 (01:23:54):
You know, I heard people talking about, uh, don't go
down to the Essence Festival because the state of Louisiana's
doing dirty things down there with the redistricting and the
and the governor and everything. Well, if you don't put
an Essence festival, then all you're doing is hurting a
black event. And you know, maybe the sponsors won't come

(01:24:17):
back next year for that. I mean, if it's black
supported and we got some speak here, we got the
Indiana Black Expo every summer, and we had the Circle
City Classic. Well, I think Black Exo is probably responsible
for helping keep me alive because I've been to every

(01:24:37):
Exo for probably since its inception.

Speaker 5 (01:24:40):
And I always go to the hell.

Speaker 3 (01:24:41):
Fare yeah, but there have to be in your right, Pierre,
and I appreciate your call.

Speaker 1 (01:24:46):
Thank you, thank you for your call.

Speaker 3 (01:24:48):
And it is a big portion of the A big
part of that equation James and Eric is community support.
But it's all it's all connected to so many different things.
Let's let's go back to the on lifestyles with thereic
go ahead.

Speaker 1 (01:25:02):
How are you?

Speaker 9 (01:25:03):
Yes?

Speaker 12 (01:25:03):
Hello, this is lifestyle.

Speaker 1 (01:25:04):
Yes, Hi, how are you hey?

Speaker 7 (01:25:06):
Happy Friday to James and Tina.

Speaker 1 (01:25:08):
Hello, Hello, Hello, how are we doing?

Speaker 5 (01:25:12):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (01:25:12):
We're doing good?

Speaker 7 (01:25:14):
You know, Tina, I listened last week after my call,
and I'd like to address the lady first that I
that spoke after me. So I wanted to say this
is that this is home for me. I'll say that's
one again, one one more time.

Speaker 5 (01:25:27):
This is home for me.

Speaker 7 (01:25:29):
I love my city, I love my state.

Speaker 9 (01:25:32):
But I think it's okay.

Speaker 7 (01:25:33):
For me to add constructive criticism as a taxpayer and
somebody that loves my state and my home, it's okay
to criticize. I'm not putting down I want in my opinion,
we need new leadership. My opinion, it's okay for me
to have my opinion without somebody saying which This goes

(01:25:53):
all over the board. If you disagree with anybody on
whatever it is, you're a hater. And it could be politics,
it could be whatever. We can agree to disagree. This
is home for me. I'll see it again, home home.
I pay taxes. I just want I'm just wondering why
my city is crumbling and only certain areas.

Speaker 5 (01:26:10):
You know.

Speaker 7 (01:26:11):
It's just I'm sick of it. So I'm done with that.
The next thing is, have you heard that we have
the best roads in the country?

Speaker 24 (01:26:19):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (01:26:19):
No, I haven't myself.

Speaker 7 (01:26:23):
So somebody I figured somebody would laugh. I'm sorry, I'm
I'm shocked that I'm not hearing you laughing because somebody
said that Indiana, Indiana has some of the best roads
in the country. Now I want to know who was
paid to say that. That's all I want.

Speaker 3 (01:26:39):
To I want to know highways was in the city
of Indian holds it.

Speaker 5 (01:26:46):
I don't know this.

Speaker 3 (01:26:47):
So since I drive of America, so parts of the
state of Indiana. So there may be well preserved interstate
highways throughout the state. I mean we are, We're looking
at it through the lens of Indianapolis.

Speaker 5 (01:27:00):
Well, I don't.

Speaker 7 (01:27:01):
I'm just saying with some of my writers that said
and laughing, they said that we were that they it's
somebody wherever this is at, and that Indiana or Indianapolis
has some of the best streets and highways in the country.
We know that's not true, because we've been talking about
this for six years, haven't you. I just want to

(01:27:21):
know where that came from, who got paid to say that,
and is it true?

Speaker 4 (01:27:26):
Is that true?

Speaker 1 (01:27:27):
Okay, let's let us get on that lifestyles.

Speaker 3 (01:27:30):
I promise I'm gonna look that one up, because that
is a joke that's interesting.

Speaker 24 (01:27:36):
That.

Speaker 4 (01:27:39):
Can be true in any way.

Speaker 2 (01:27:41):
Maybe they were driving down a street that was freshly
paved and they thought this is great.

Speaker 7 (01:27:47):
I just figured maybe some some city inspector which split
a little.

Speaker 1 (01:27:51):
Change to say that.

Speaker 3 (01:27:53):
Okay, all right, indeed, and James and Eric, we have
a winner.

Speaker 4 (01:27:59):
We have.

Speaker 20 (01:28:05):
I amulations. Thank you so much. I'm really excited.

Speaker 3 (01:28:14):
Okay, Okay, So did you have a hard time getting in.

Speaker 8 (01:28:21):
A little bit?

Speaker 20 (01:28:22):
It was it was a it was a challenge, but
I was able to get through and and and I'm pleased.
And I also wanted to just take this opportunity. Uh,
even though I'm like really excited, I wanted the tickets,
and I've been listening. I listened to all of the
calls and everything. I just wanted to take this opportunity
to just kind of please with everyone and let them

(01:28:44):
know the importance of coming out and showing up and voting.
It's always important when I was off the way in college,
no matter what was going.

Speaker 14 (01:28:54):
On in my life, I always.

Speaker 20 (01:28:56):
Made it a point and it's so important. I cannot
stress how important it is. I personally call around to
all of my family and anyone that will listen, and
so I guess I have the opportunity. So I mean,
I'm not taking anything away from my joy of the tickets,

(01:29:16):
but I'd like to see other joys from all of this.

Speaker 1 (01:29:23):
Man, Okay, I love that.

Speaker 3 (01:29:26):
So now, Melissa, you know, we are so glad you
got the tickets, and we're very grateful for the message,
and we hope it resonates as we try to share
that same message as often as we can.

Speaker 1 (01:29:39):
Who are you going to take with you to the show?
To the concert?

Speaker 3 (01:29:42):
My husband, You'll be excited, Okay, she sounded resigned.

Speaker 1 (01:29:52):
He'll do.

Speaker 20 (01:29:55):
He'll be excited.

Speaker 3 (01:29:56):
Well, good, well, congratulations, and I hope you both enjoy
the concert coming up on the thirty first.

Speaker 1 (01:30:03):
Have a good time.

Speaker 20 (01:30:04):
Thank you so much, and I appreciate you all very much.
I really enjoy I learn a lot. That's one thing
that I try to do. I try to stay open
and try to learn as much as I can. And
you all share a lot of important information, and.

Speaker 1 (01:30:22):
We appreciate it.

Speaker 20 (01:30:23):
I hope that the community takes advantage of that.

Speaker 3 (01:30:26):
We appreciate it, all right, and have a good time. Okay, you,
thank you, thank you, Thank you so much for listening.
Thank you for listening.

Speaker 1 (01:30:35):
We need more like that.

Speaker 3 (01:30:39):
I appreciate the tickets, but I want everybody to vote.
We're gonna take one final call and then we got
to get to a couple of other things that we
wanted to get in there before.

Speaker 1 (01:30:50):
So Barbara, go ahead. How are you.

Speaker 14 (01:30:52):
I'm good, How are you trying that?

Speaker 1 (01:30:54):
Doing good? Doing good? Thank you?

Speaker 14 (01:30:56):
That's good.

Speaker 26 (01:30:56):
And everyone else on the radio today, I just want
had a question about why is it that our state
is not giving any type of.

Speaker 5 (01:31:08):
Rebates or you.

Speaker 26 (01:31:10):
Know, relief money to the citizens of Indiana, especially like
myself and everyone else who I'm talking about individuals who
you know, taxpayers, and because all other states are giving
their people some type of relief or rebate money. Georgia
just gave their people last week.

Speaker 4 (01:31:28):
Five hundred dollars three hundred and five hundred dollars.

Speaker 26 (01:31:31):
This state has not done that here I think in
the last maybe two years. And I mean, I mean,
even though I'm a single parent and a working mom,
it would help, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 13 (01:31:45):
Gases is up four dollars in something, the gallon.

Speaker 26 (01:31:48):
Groceries is up, you know, and right now the Indy
five hundred is going on and we're paying for that
tax dollars is paying for that, but we don't get anything.

Speaker 1 (01:32:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:32:00):
Well, Sar and Barbara, thank you for the call. And
it's an interesting observation. Thank you very much because I
appreciate that. And yeah, I don't know what's going on
in other states.

Speaker 1 (01:32:11):
But you know what he did.

Speaker 3 (01:32:12):
He freed up two hundred million for childcare, you know,
kind of a reversal.

Speaker 1 (01:32:16):
Of course, he has you know, suspended.

Speaker 3 (01:32:19):
We're on a gas tax holiday things like that, but
as far as writing a check, I don't think we're
there yet.

Speaker 4 (01:32:26):
I just know She looks out me and Georgia is
a southern state, but a southern state where I got
to give it to him. Those people stand in line
and they vote. I'm just reading here from this quick
and I know we got to give in a couple
other topics, Tina, this quick summary. She is right. Barbara's right.
Georgia is returning over and I'm reading one billion and

(01:32:50):
one time surplus tax funds to eligible voters as part
of a budget surplus plan approved under under a bill
HB one thousand the twenty twenty sixth legislative session. So
you know, like voting is the key to all of it.
Like several callers and have said, particularly malicious great comments,

(01:33:11):
that's the key. If we get people in, we can
at least push them to give, you know, to give
rebates back. We've got over one billion surplus. Some yeah,
we'll say it's higher than oh, two billions. That money
could not just two hundred million to childcare, which is
greatly needed, but that money can come back in the

(01:33:31):
pockets of.

Speaker 3 (01:33:32):
The people, especially since we put it there. Yeah, we did.
But a couple of things. One, they congratulate Christmas addicts
high school. They are in line to what they have
received a new healthcare lab and gymnasium as a result
of a forty four million dollar expansion. It's due to

(01:33:54):
open in twenty twenty eight. You know, as you know,
Christmas Addicts is a medical magnet school, and this is
going to be huge for the students that go. They're
a healthcare lab and a new gym forty four million
dollar expanse.

Speaker 1 (01:34:09):
And so congratulations to Christmas.

Speaker 4 (01:34:12):
Absolutely, Tina and and and you know, well deserved, well deserved.
And I don't want to take anything away from where
that money came from, you know, but it should be
like an example. I don't want to tell it ungrateful,
but it should be an example to other corporations. This
is what the community needs. They're going to invest in

(01:34:32):
a you know, a program over there where students could
actually learn you know, healthcare industry, you know, getting the
healthcare industry education, go right into higher education and you know,
they can go right into fields where they get lots
of money for those skills.

Speaker 1 (01:34:53):
Is going to be huge.

Speaker 3 (01:34:54):
The other thing that I think is going to be huge,
and we we didn't get to talk about it this week.

Speaker 1 (01:34:58):
It happened earlier this week.

Speaker 3 (01:34:59):
The governor has signed the bell to bell School cell
Phone Bill for students, meaning from the time the bill
to start school to the bell to in school are sounded,
cell phones will be off limits in several schools.

Speaker 1 (01:35:14):
So that is going to be really interesting.

Speaker 3 (01:35:17):
I think a lot of teacher's parents and the like
are going to be happy about that one.

Speaker 4 (01:35:22):
Yeah, except when it's used in the classroom setting for
educational purposes. I saw a little bit of that language.

Speaker 11 (01:35:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:35:30):
No, No, I'm not, I'm all.

Speaker 4 (01:35:31):
I'm just adding to what you said. Absolutely, you know
how I am I am. And people are saying we've
had college where you know, I got to know all
my kids doing stuff and so crazy, well stuff and
so unsettled out there. I don't want to say that
word seff and so unsettled out there. I want to
know and so I need contact. But I having been

(01:35:51):
a substitute teacher, having been a professor in college, you
don't need them except for education. Have them put away
because they can be a distraction. That's that's just kind
of how I feel about it.

Speaker 3 (01:36:03):
Uh, and a biggie that a lot of folks in
the community should be happy about. No, I don't know,
but whenever you say everybody should be happy about it, Well,
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:36:15):
But anyway, this is this is exciting news.

Speaker 3 (01:36:17):
The Indianapolis Recorders Community Picnic on the Avenue is returning.

Speaker 4 (01:36:22):
Oh come on now, yeah, when and where?

Speaker 3 (01:36:29):
Well it's on the Avenue right now, It's on Indiana Avenue.

Speaker 1 (01:36:32):
I got it right here in front of me. In terms.

Speaker 21 (01:36:41):
Saturday, June Saturday.

Speaker 4 (01:36:46):
On the Avenue on the well to four pm Indiana Avenue,
back to the Avenue, celebrating the legacy, culture and community
is Recorder Community Picnic. I just my fingers moved a
little bit fast, that's all.

Speaker 3 (01:37:00):
Well, my hands are moving fast. My papers, I got
too many papers here. But yeah, that's great.

Speaker 1 (01:37:08):
Certainly is that is really really good? One really, So
I just wanted to your.

Speaker 4 (01:37:12):
Music, great food, faith, painting, walking talk, community conversations. I'm
reading from the press of these family, family activities, community
resources and special guests and local leaders.

Speaker 1 (01:37:23):
So hey, it's bad all it's back. Yeah, it is
back as back as back.

Speaker 3 (01:37:28):
So anything else that we may not have gotten to
Eric or and James or you know, anything y'all want
to share while we go through these last few minutes,
if we.

Speaker 4 (01:37:38):
Can get anything else on this program, we'd have to
get another suitcase. Yeah, that's true. Really not the callers, Peter.

Speaker 1 (01:37:49):
I love the callers today. Everybody had something to say.

Speaker 4 (01:37:52):
They certainly did. Ye awesome.

Speaker 1 (01:37:55):
We want everybody to have a good weekend.

Speaker 3 (01:37:56):
Two although maybe just a tad bit soggier than what
we're used to, but that's okay, that's okay.

Speaker 1 (01:38:01):
Temperatures are gonna be rising, right, so right.

Speaker 4 (01:38:04):
We've got rain coming in tomorrow, although though there should
be dry time. I'm gonna go out on the limb
and say it likely won't rain all day. But just
as we said earlier, it's gonna dry out today, So
tonight should be a nice evening. But we've got rain
coming in tomorrow. And I know, you know, we hadn't

(01:38:25):
talked about you know, the race. That's always a huge
thing out here. Yeah. Yeah, So the race. They they're
gonna have what they call qualifying for the race tomorrow.
And you know what I saw on there, you guys,
I they they are now equipping some of the cars,

(01:38:47):
if not all of them, with a boost And I'm
not no, I'm no race expert that will boost their boosts.
There the car speak by uh, you know, one hundred horsepower.

Speaker 20 (01:39:03):
Oh my god.

Speaker 1 (01:39:05):
I have long said at some point in time, those
cars are going to be airborne. I's going to be
going fast.

Speaker 3 (01:39:11):
We're gonna fly because how how fast does the plane
have to go before it can be airborne. It's not
too much faster than the way those cars are going.

Speaker 4 (01:39:19):
That's true. Yeah, hopfully not into the wall, you know,
we hope not.

Speaker 1 (01:39:24):
We will indeed, both of you guys.

Speaker 3 (01:39:26):
Have a great weekend though, and we'll touch base again
next week. Eric, I'll see you again in a couple
of seconds.

Speaker 18 (01:39:33):
All right.

Speaker 1 (01:39:34):
That's all the time we have for right now.

Speaker 3 (01:39:36):
Our website is Praiseindie dot com, Wellie More Junior on
the radio is up next, is always thank you for listening,
and also is always please be well, stay.

Speaker 1 (01:39:45):
Informed, and stay connected. We love that. We love that.

Speaker 11 (01:39:49):
We love that.

Speaker 1 (01:39:49):
For Eric and James.

Speaker 3 (01:39:50):
I'm Tina Cosby and this is community connection.

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