Community Connection - May 7, 2026 - Tina Cosby talks with Abdul Hakim-Shabazz - Community Connection With Tina Cosby

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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moving Indy Forward. It's community Connection with Tina Cosby, brought
to you by Child's Advocates, a champion for justice, opportunity
and well being for children on Praise Am thirteen ten

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Speaker 2 (00:24):
Need a microphone? How about that? I saw you, Tina.

Speaker 3 (00:31):
You gotta talk about the mo every day.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
It's an adventure in here.

Speaker 4 (00:34):
You know.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
Sometimes the phone's not working, my head isn't working or whatever.
But if you want to do radio, it's a good
idea to bring the micro Let's just keep you on
your toes. I'm there, I'm there. Oh well this operator operator.

Speaker 5 (00:51):
Indeed is my microphone on?

Speaker 2 (00:53):
By the way, Yes it is, Yes, it is you
are you're here.

Speaker 5 (00:55):
But a voice like this, you had to be able
to hear yourself, so can you hear you? Look?

Speaker 2 (01:00):
Okay? All right, good afternoon.

Speaker 5 (01:01):
Everybody more beautiful than the side of my own voice.
I'll tell you that.

Speaker 2 (01:05):
Okay, you know what's ahead, right, and just just moments
from now. Today is Thursday, May seven, three, one seven
four eight zero thirteen ten three one seven four eight
zero thirteen ten is the number to the show again.
Lots to get to today, including sports from the Indianapolis
Recorders Danny Bridges. That's coming up at our second hour
right now, in our first hour, as you just heard,

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we'd like to welcome back our colleague from Radio one
Indie sister station WIBC, Abdul to Keem Shabab. He is
a political journalist, editor and publisher of Indie Politics dot org.
Radio talk show host Abdul at Large WIBC Saturdays one
to three. Still yeah, okay, yeah, Saturdays one to three.
University professor, attorney at law. And I'll stop right there.

Speaker 3 (01:46):
Because when does he sleep?

Speaker 2 (01:48):
When does he sleep? I don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:50):
Not this week, I'll tell you. So, how are you
doing recovering? Yeah, it wasn't hard.

Speaker 6 (01:57):
It was just long, lots of racists to follow, lots
of things to keep an eye on, and so we're tired.
And then I got Indie popcorn this weekend too, the
big pop culture thing over at the convention Center where
I go get my total geek on.

Speaker 2 (02:11):
Tell me about that a little more, because I know
the name, I don't know the purpose.

Speaker 6 (02:15):
It's kind of like Indiana Comic Con with spent comic
books and superheroes and total geeked them. Okay, POPCN is
more the three cons. There's gen Con, popcorn and Comic Con.
Comic Con is more comic books, gen Con is more
gamespost Popkin is sort of in the middle of both. Okay,
it's where it's where I go spend money I don't
have on stuff I don't need that.

Speaker 5 (02:35):
My wife will yell at me for buying and fillip
my garage.

Speaker 2 (02:38):
But you enjoyed.

Speaker 5 (02:39):
Oh I never know black man could be so happy.

Speaker 2 (02:42):
Okay, Okay, I saw some of your happy before we
moved out of the other the other building down on
the circle. My goodness you did have. Was that all
related to your love of popcorn?

Speaker 5 (02:51):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (02:52):
Your office that I mean it was like three layers
deep of.

Speaker 5 (02:57):
And all that stuff is in swords was literally right
across the street.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
Okay, yeah, oh yeah, sound.

Speaker 5 (03:02):
A little bit every trip and yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:04):
So the elections on Tuesday, the primary election on Tuesday,
I want to go very quickly because everybody was making
a big deal about this that oh you know, voter participation.
Voter participation was up to fourteen point nine percent according
to Marion County officials. So you routed off, you got
fifteen percent, and everybody was excited about that. Prior to

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election day there were reports that early voter participation was
up forty percent. Early voter participation was up forty percent.
But is that anything to still get excited about. I mean,
it's been as low as single digits dating back to
twenty nineteen, where it was eight point I think six
four percent something along that.

Speaker 6 (03:45):
I want to freak everybody out, Okay, and by saying
something that should be that's going to sound very counterintuitive,
but but hear me out on this one. And I
understand this over right, Sack ninety sixty five or four five,
I get all that bad bledd diah blah blah. I
don't necessarily think more voter participation equals better voter participation.

Speaker 5 (04:01):
Because a bunch of a.

Speaker 6 (04:02):
Bunch of people getting together make a bad decision. It's
still a bad decision. It's not a good decision, Okay.
I prefer more informed voter participation. No, know who the
candidates are, know what your issues are, and then go
vote and participate. So more participation, not really, but more
informed participation.

Speaker 5 (04:21):
To me, that's that's the best outcome.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
So what's your measurement? Which the how do you measure that?

Speaker 6 (04:26):
That's that's the tricky part it is, And that and
and for more informed voter participation. I kind of put
that on the candidates because hey, you know voters that
they get they're busy, they're good, they got lives again,
they got stuff.

Speaker 5 (04:37):
They got to do. So you need to make your
case to them. Here's why. You know what you want
the government to do.

Speaker 6 (04:43):
I do that, whether it's property taxes, schools, education, healthcare,
the whole nine yards.

Speaker 2 (04:48):
So informed voter participation probably never came into play more recently.
I know there have been previous cases, but more recently,
uh than with the Marin County Clerk's Office race Bob Kern,
who had died passed away. The third of April primary
was held too.

Speaker 6 (05:04):
Yeah, it was too late for to take it was
too late to take him off the ballot. And that's
what I'll make sure people know.

Speaker 2 (05:08):
But he got almost five thousand. He got four thousand,
five hundred and seventy six or something like that.

Speaker 5 (05:12):
Yep, Yes, he did.

Speaker 6 (05:14):
Okay, which, as I tell people that there's a reason
we have voter deadlines because ballots got to be printed, apsley,
ballots got to go out, mail in, ballots got to
go the whole nine yards, and so you got to
have a hard deadline, which I want to say is like, no,
at least thirty days before, okay, whatever the deadline was
for people withdraw from the ballot. So they with drawn

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or they haven't drawn, you can't go back and we're
going to take these ballots out and put these ballots Okay, Like, no,
you can't do that.

Speaker 5 (05:39):
They just are what they are.

Speaker 2 (05:41):
So the ballots had to stay asked. But okay, I
get that was their responsibility on the part of I
don't know, the clerk's office or whatever to inform voters
before they went in that in race X, Y or Z,
this particular candidate has expired. No, so you just have
to know on your own.

Speaker 7 (06:01):
Ye.

Speaker 2 (06:02):
So that was forty five hundred plus some votes that
may have been divided otherwise that people people cast. You know,
can you do you believe that forty five hundred people
voted for somebody that they knew was was was dead.

Speaker 5 (06:15):
That had justed they didn't know where. They just didn't
like the other two other two.

Speaker 2 (06:18):
Candidates, probably a little bit of both, I guess.

Speaker 6 (06:21):
And here's the thing to think about two. When I
did the math, Bob's forty five hundred votes was actually
bigger than the spread between Carlo Lopez.

Speaker 5 (06:28):
Yes it was, and uh case Sweeney Bell.

Speaker 6 (06:32):
And so had Bob not been there, Bob could have
I could have been if half those votes that went
to Carlopez, carl Lopez would have won.

Speaker 2 (06:40):
Yeah, easy, because was it? Was it a thousand votes
or so, maybe fewer than a thousand that separated her
A couple.

Speaker 6 (06:46):
Of thousand votes, two thousand, I think, between fifteen and
two thousand, Okay, okay, But the thing is, and Bob
uh was always kind of a perennial candidate, always.

Speaker 2 (06:57):
Wanted to also ran good guy.

Speaker 6 (06:59):
Also, I think it's rather ironic that Bob's last dyne
act was to have a big influence on the Marin County.

Speaker 5 (07:07):
Yes Clerk's race.

Speaker 2 (07:08):
Yes, yes, And so.

Speaker 6 (07:09):
Bob was looking down now on that happy voting booth
of the sky, saying, hey, his last dine act, he
made a difference.

Speaker 2 (07:17):
But you know what, I've been following Bob for a
long time. I mean back to the days when he
was made national news being on Letterman because Indiana had
allowed on the ballot a convicted felon who a cross
dressing convicted felon. I think and Letterman felt obligated being
from Indiana to get him on there and all of that.
But I don't think. And since then, he's run against

(07:39):
Andrea Carr. I mean, he's run in just about everything
you can think of. But I don't think I've ever
seen more than two thousand votes that Bob has able
to gather in any race that he's been running in
over the past twenty So this was his best race yet.

Speaker 4 (07:54):
Yep.

Speaker 5 (07:55):
Ironic.

Speaker 2 (07:55):
Isn't that ironic?

Speaker 5 (07:56):
Yep?

Speaker 2 (07:57):
I've never seen four thousand, five hundred and some votes
for Bob Kurr.

Speaker 6 (08:00):
And Bob was almost the Democratic candidate for lieutenant governor
back at twenty four because there was a paperwork Stamfoo
and and I want to say Terry Gooden had had
filed his paperwork, and Pokers saying well, Terry didn't do
his paperwork by the deadline because doesn't have a deadline,
and so uh that Bob had better lawyers, he could
probably have been the peutenant governor. Now at the conveniently

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got two votes, So yeah, wow.

Speaker 2 (08:28):
But yeah, just one of the most interesting head scratching
stories of this this last primary election.

Speaker 5 (08:34):
Several head scratching story.

Speaker 2 (08:36):
I was going to say, what uh before let's let's
let's get a phone call in here, and then I
want to go back to you to find out what's
stuck out to you most in the primarily because what
stuck out to me most were two things. I just
went with Bob Kern and of course this jubilence over
fourteen point nine percent voter participation, which I still think
is just alter anyway, Uh three one seven zero thirteen

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ten three one seven for eight zero thirteen ten. We
are sitting here talking with Abdula King Shabbaz, our colleague
and political journalist attorney, very tired rating, very tired journalist.
I'll bet, I'll bet because there's so much politics, and
then we've got more coming up for the I mean,
this was just priming the pump for November, which should

(09:19):
be interesting.

Speaker 6 (09:19):
All I say is I got, uh, what the bed
last what the bet? Last night at ten o'clock? Woke
up at six, which is unheard of me because we
just go to bed about eleven get up at four,
because that's just like, wow, this is what eight hours
of sleep is like, huh, let's come in, really, God help,
thank you.

Speaker 2 (09:32):
I feel disoriented if I get eight hours, I really do.
I mean, just like what's today where you get eight hours? Jeff,
you have a question for a duel? Go ahead? How
are you?

Speaker 4 (09:41):
I got a couple of questions before I do.

Speaker 7 (09:43):
How are you doing that duel?

Speaker 2 (09:45):
Long time?

Speaker 8 (09:45):
They'll talk to Hey, doing well, my friend m Yeah,
and I wanted to spill them, myff. Black geeks and
nerves they do exist, and uh, you know you're talking
to one. Yeah, I like me some god Zilla, some
Terminator and Batman, spider Man. So yeah, black nerves do exist.
But the question always want to ask you at doing it?
And I know you're the conservative persuasion. You know right

(10:10):
now the guipiter current state to me is not very
welcoming of African Americans. I mean because you know, I
got away issue with no black you know, conservative or
a liberal or progress or whatever, not a monolith. But
you know, but thank of people like Michael Steer and
Tars Santamar who are taking a stand against the whole
Macca influence. I mean I don't want to be affiliated

(10:32):
with Stephen Miller or Nick Bouintees or Steve Banning. So
maybe the Republicans need to take a patient the Democrats
when we ran strom Thurman and Jesse Helms out because
LBJ signed sixty four Civil Rights Act and of sixty
five Voting Rights Act. Well, the point I'm not trying
to make is to seem like the Republican may be

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going to be a little bit two white nationalist or
far right borning on fascis. I mean if I as
a black Conservative and Michael Steele says it all the time,
and I got a lot of respect from Michael Steele,
Uitar Sotomar, I mean two prominent black conservatives who denounced
Mega in the strongest scent. So what you guys go

(11:17):
and do to purse those guys out of the gel
things and really go back to the Party of Abraham Lincoln.

Speaker 6 (11:22):
I would say, actually, Jeff, I appreciate your phone call,
because I actually been looking at this lately.

Speaker 5 (11:27):
It is what's that? Whose phone is?

Speaker 2 (11:30):
That must be Jeff's? I don't it's not yours.

Speaker 5 (11:33):
Hey, hey Jeff, that's your phone? Or turn your text mester,
put your phone on silent.

Speaker 6 (11:38):
My thing is this, it has always been, you have
ten percent of the on the on the scale of
one to one to one hundred, ten percent of the
population is that far left crazy, that the progressive crazy
category the voting population, well, okay, the other ten percent
is that far right nut job population, and everybody else
is eighty percent in the middle. The thing is is

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that who's likely to come out and vote in a primary.
It's those far it's those extreme. It's ready to come
out in the primary because most people are They don't
they don't care. They just want good government, good schools,
and be left alone. And the thing is to win
in a primary because of who the you got to
run either further to the right or further to the left.
Then where the population is. And then when you get

(12:21):
then when you then the votes. Look at the choices
they got like, okay, I got you know this this
far left person, this far right individual. So I would
I would argue the way to fix that is to
go to an open primary system where it's kind of
like what they do in Alaska. To a certain degree,
everybody's on the ballot, you know, d R R doesn't matter,
and the top two vote getters face each other and

(12:42):
run off, or better yet, I would argue, what you
do is if the if the top vote against more
than sixty percent of the vote, they would they automatically win.
If it's I, it's two more, then they face each
other in a run off, and then that way you
sort of you sort of get rid of that sort
of far right far left influence in your primary systems.

Speaker 2 (13:02):
Yeah, and so you know the percentage of states here
in the US abdule that have open primaries, because it
was presented to me, and I can't remember who it was.
Somebody was talking to me. It might have been on
the air boy off slips. Maybe I didn't sleep, but anyway,
I'm trying to remember. Anyway, the comment was made that
perhaps more people would participate in the primaries in Indiana

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if it was an open primary, meaning if you did
not have to declare Democrat or Republican when you enter,
and you were only given one option, which would be
your party's your party's ticket, as opposed to being able
to vote like you can vote in general elections that
are held pretty much in you know, the month of November.

Speaker 5 (13:47):
You see. But yeah, and that would make sense.

Speaker 6 (13:49):
But then again, it's supplical parties that don't want to
do that because you keep more control of the process
when you have sort of divided primaries. And by the way,
libertarians don't have primaries at all. The nominate their CANi
is at a convention.

Speaker 2 (14:02):
H So, do you know how many you say Alaska
has opened? Even roughly? I mean, I maybe my question
would be, do more states have closed primaries than open?
For the most part?

Speaker 5 (14:12):
Let me let me ask Claude.

Speaker 2 (14:14):
Okay, Claude, Okay, I don't know Claude, but I'll take
his word for it.

Speaker 5 (14:18):
Is my AI assistant who I take with me all.

Speaker 2 (14:19):
The ah ah, good goodness.

Speaker 6 (14:22):
And yes I do use AI because AI is I'm
the architect, but AI is the builder.

Speaker 2 (14:27):
Okay, I like that is what I tell you, the
builder indeed. Indeed, So yeah, once we we find out
the answer to that one. So so, Jeff, Jeff's question
was kind of I know you have said that the
Republican Party and MAGA are two different things. Yes, And
Jeff was saying, I guess we're assuming that they were

(14:49):
they were all one, but you saying no, there's a
clear difference between a conservative republic and magah, Mega, maga,
you know, a maga.

Speaker 6 (14:59):
He argue that when it comes to Republicans and Democrats,
there as many different types of Republicans and Democrats as
there are hues among black folks.

Speaker 2 (15:07):
Okay, okay, light.

Speaker 6 (15:09):
Scan, dark skin, you know, straighter hair, early hair, Michael Jackson,
I mean, you name, it is different types. So guess
what you have some social conservatives, you have, social liberals,
have moderate conservatives, modern liberals, the whole nine yards. So
there are many different types of Republicans and Democrats as
there are hues among black folks, plain and simple.

Speaker 2 (15:29):
Yeah. So Mega tends to have more control over the
Republican Party than the Conservatives.

Speaker 6 (15:36):
Because they're more active and Donald Donald Trump controls that
that sort of the quote unquote that that maga wing.
And you get a lot of Republicans who don't necessarily
agree with the Mega thing, but if they want to
when the primary, you gotta gotta kind of toe toe.

Speaker 5 (15:49):
The line somewhat.

Speaker 6 (15:50):
So what did Claude say, Uh, open primaries in the
United States.

Speaker 5 (15:57):
Let's see here, open primaries in eighteen states.

Speaker 2 (16:02):
Oh, okay, the majority of states do not have them.

Speaker 6 (16:05):
Yeah, the Democrats have open primaries eighteen states. Republicans have
open primaries in fifteen states.

Speaker 2 (16:10):
Okay, there you go. So there's there's the answer. So
back to my one of my original questions, what stood
out most to you in this most recent primary here
in Marion County? And I guess throughout the state, whatever
you study.

Speaker 6 (16:25):
What's the most to me in Marion County was not
a county wide race per se, even though I could
argue that Carlo Lopez and Kate Swinney Bell was more
of a Joe Hogg said Ryan Meres kind of back
and forth.

Speaker 2 (16:37):
Ah yeah, because Ryan Mears was clearly behind. But she
you know, she works in his office too though, so he.

Speaker 5 (16:42):
So, So there's that.

Speaker 6 (16:43):
But the thing that that that destruck by attention the
most here in Marion County, into lessons grew up in
Boone County were the race for convention delegates. Because these
are the people who choose Secretary of State, auditor and treasurer.
And you run for a convention delegate, they're like, they'll see,
like they're six spots open, the top six vote getters.
Actually we'll get that well up in Lawrence, which like

(17:07):
District convinted District four, it doesn't matter, but they were
like eighteen people running for a convention delegate. One of
those people was Diego Morales, the Secretary of State, and
his wife Sedonia, where I was also a candidate, and
they both lost big time. I think like Diego was
like sixteenth out of and his wife was like seventeenth

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or eighteen. So picture this if you will, if I
get all Sonia from the gold from the growth. Picture
at Sicily nineteen thirty eight, Sophia Sophia Diego Morales ran
for convention delegate lost. So at the Republican Convention in June,
he cannot vote for himself as secretary of State because

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he lost the convention race.

Speaker 2 (17:52):
Wow, okay, so what do you think that says? Larger
down the road, he's in trouble.

Speaker 5 (17:59):
It doesn't help. Let's put it that way.

Speaker 2 (18:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (18:03):
And also, and then if you go up sixty nine
to four sixty five, take it all the way over
to I sixty five, go north to Boone County. The
exact same thing happened to Jim Bob who was a
conservative attorney.

Speaker 2 (18:17):
Uh oh, what happened to him?

Speaker 5 (18:18):
He came in last place. Oh, and his race for
convinted delegates too, so.

Speaker 2 (18:23):
Wow, he's big time. Yeah yeah, the attorney Yeah wow.
So what does that mean for him going for I
get well, he just doesn't get.

Speaker 6 (18:33):
To bet does get to me a delegate, and it
limits their influence on the election because this means that
they can't sit with their delegations and do all the
handshaking because it didn't necessarily make because there are kind
of rules and where candas can be, where they can't be,
where the media can be, where the media can't be, the.

Speaker 5 (18:50):
Whole nine yards.

Speaker 2 (18:51):
So they there again. I don't know. I can't figure popularity.
It's just hard to diego is not hard to figure out?

Speaker 6 (19:01):
Or I kind of likely said that two people who
have little patients for Jaegil, the people who know him
and the people who have yet to meet him.

Speaker 2 (19:08):
Okay, okay, you've met him, no doubt.

Speaker 5 (19:11):
Yes, we have on a number of different case a
number of different occasions.

Speaker 2 (19:14):
There was another situation that stood out that people were
making a lot of and I wasn't quite sure what
to make of that either, but the redistricting state of Indiana,
some of the Republican state Republican senators who were up
for reelection, Trump promised to primary them and five out

(19:34):
of the seven I guess, I mean you would know
the final numbers. I don't know if that, but right
the last numbers I had was five out of the
seven were indeed primaried. But but Axios and The Star
and some others put it in context for me in
that the Trump super PACs and all Trump money there,

(19:55):
it was like thirteen point nine million dollars poured into
those races compared to what normally would have been maybe
a quarter of a million or less just two years
ago in twenty twenty four. So what say you to that.

Speaker 6 (20:08):
Was actually get some more contexts and actually content I
appreciate what what my friends at.

Speaker 5 (20:12):
The start did.

Speaker 6 (20:13):
If you look at the races for the States Center
that those senators who voted against redistricting, there were five
out of seven that the team that the that the
pro Trump force has won. But there's an asterisk mark
by that because first of all, they ran against Greg Good.
Greg Good beat the beat the spread like fifty six

(20:34):
percent of the vote. So we take my good friend
Greg Good from terror Hot out of the mix. If
you look at Greg Walker, who was a State Center
from down in Johnson County, and look at Jim Buck
who was up in Kokomo, both Jim Buck and Greg
Walker and actually said they're going to retire and not
run again. And then they sort of unretired and came back.

(20:56):
And who just don't like that. If you're going to
stay go, stay gone. So you can't just say that. Uh,
Michelle Davis and What's space up and Cocomo beat them
because they were they were anti maggot people know, they
said they weren't going to run again, they kind of unretired.
And also down in Johnson again they were some local
issues that were involved.

Speaker 5 (21:16):
Uh that went all that as well.

Speaker 6 (21:17):
So take that, take that five, and take it down
to three. And so that's why put put it at
a long time suffering Chicago White Sox fan. Whenever I
see our win loss race, you gotta put an asterisk
mark marked by there you are suffering white.

Speaker 2 (21:33):
That's okay.

Speaker 5 (21:35):
So and that gets to Destiny Wells just a little
bit too.

Speaker 2 (21:37):
So, oh, tell me about Destiny Wellson.

Speaker 9 (21:39):
I mean, oh and five now and six, yes, because.

Speaker 6 (21:44):
She ran for attorney general, ran for Secretory of state,
state party chairperson, also ran, uh ran a bunch of delegates.

Speaker 5 (21:53):
Uh to get into the convention.

Speaker 6 (21:55):
They all got tossed out because they didn't fill out
the paperwork correctly, and so she was already over four
and now going against Andra Carson, she's now oh for five.

Speaker 2 (22:05):
Yeah. That that soured some folks, including she said it
on the air, Miss Cordeli, you didn't appreciate because she
had tried to help Destiny in the past. But when
Destiny came and ran against Andre that that that soured
her a little bit on Destiny, like what are you
trying to do here? What are you doing?

Speaker 6 (22:23):
And think it's too that Now this is America. People
got the right run.

Speaker 2 (22:28):
Yeah, yeah, I'm just saying.

Speaker 5 (22:31):
However, what Destiny did was she went.

Speaker 6 (22:32):
She fouled the last minute on the last day, of
the last hour of the last minute. So on the
day whatever the filing deadline was with the in the day,
she felt like eleven forty seven, eleven forty nine.

Speaker 5 (22:42):
It's like, really seriously.

Speaker 6 (22:45):
And you're and what is your and what is your
what's you to be an incombat?

Speaker 5 (22:50):
You gotta do two things.

Speaker 6 (22:51):
Number one, tell people why the incumban is bad and
be why you're better. It's like my wife, she was
dating her ex boyfriend before she met me, I got
convinced that the ex boyfriend is bad and I much better.
The first part we've got eighteen years later, still working
on that second.

Speaker 2 (23:04):
But you get renewed every year, Yeah, every.

Speaker 5 (23:07):
Year exactly September fifth, by the way, niversary. Oh well,
so by my thing.

Speaker 6 (23:12):
What Destiny Wills was, it's like, okay, why are you
runing against Andrea Carson? Well, he takes corporate pack money
and who doesn't take corporate pack money? Because once again,
I don't believe corporate pack money is necessarily a bad thing.
But she would say that the same people who gave
to Andre Carson also gave to Black Rock, And okay,
you're you're trying to play way too much. Six degrees

(23:33):
six degrees separation all this. And first of all, Andrea
is a contituent service congressman. But what Andre does There
are three types of congress people.

Speaker 5 (23:42):
There.

Speaker 6 (23:42):
They're the big speech congressman, there's the policy congress people,
and then you have the constituent service congress people. Andre
Carson is a constituent service congressman.

Speaker 7 (23:51):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (23:52):
Perfect example. I want to say it.

Speaker 6 (23:54):
Like last year, my sister and her her husband, they
were going to my sister and my sister and her
husband are going to go to Jamaica for a bag.

Speaker 5 (24:00):
But there was some issue with their passports and.

Speaker 6 (24:02):
It was like kind of like the last minute, he Abduel,
You know, people, can you help us out? I was like,
oh God, I gotta so call like, hey, hey, how's
it going my sister law and her husband, blah blah.

Speaker 5 (24:13):
I'll get taken care of.

Speaker 6 (24:14):
Like I can't believe I spent a chit on my
sister in law and her husband.

Speaker 2 (24:19):
Now now there many more chips you get.

Speaker 6 (24:21):
I look like I said a few of the more. Okay,
this was like, thanks buddy, I appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (24:26):
Yeah. Indeed, indeed three one seven for eight zero thirteen ten.
Three one seven for eight zero thirteen ten is the
number our guest, Abdula Kim Shabaz. Mister Russell, you have
a question for Abdul.

Speaker 7 (24:39):
I do a couple of questions. Actually, uh, one question
is you mentioned the fact that all this money came
in for uh from the manga folks to take out
the so called senators and vote.

Speaker 2 (25:00):
We readied that he didn't. I just yeah, I was
asking him about it. But yeah, but go ahead, go ahead, Yeah,
but that's the point.

Speaker 7 (25:08):
But anyway, I was wondering, Uh, with all of this
lag of money that came in. Uh, it was really
kind of embarrassing when you check all of the TV
commercials and whatever. It was really embarrassing because the people

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that they were against, I mean, it was like, uh
a giant against the pee wee so this space, I
mean it was it was almost embarrassing in fact that
the other candidates could not uh spawn in con so
the so called A lot of the commentators now are

(25:49):
saying that this is another example that if you go
against Trump, he will primary you, and so don't go
against Trump. Do you do you agree with with that?

Speaker 5 (26:01):
No? No, no, I don't agree. I don't.

Speaker 6 (26:03):
I don't agree with that. Now, I will not argue
the fact. Hey, first of all, people won so give
credit work credits because one of elections is to win,
and they follow the law for the I don't. I
don't see any signs of anybody to break law anywhere.
I would argue two things is number one, what the
Trump people did is.

Speaker 5 (26:22):
A here we go. You ever see the I'm gonna
use it.

Speaker 6 (26:25):
I'm gonna use a dorky Star Wars reference here because
I'm totally geeked out this weekend. Is the way the
Empire wins is the Empire has endless resources.

Speaker 5 (26:35):
Stormtrooper after stormtrooper after storm.

Speaker 6 (26:37):
It takes one shot to kill stormtrooper, but you're right
out of bullets before they rude out of stormtroopers in
a nutshell. And so if you think about it, that's
what the mag of people did. They came in wave
after wave after wave. Well, the television, ads, mailers, you know,
the whole nine yards, and a lot of it just
couldn't respond because while he responded to one attack, ad
here comes another attack, ad here ago. It's like the

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movie Zulu. It really is the Zulus. They just came
to waves and waves and waves and waves and waves
and eventually almost sort of defeated the almost defeated the
British in the movie.

Speaker 5 (27:11):
Well in in a way, it was just like this.

Speaker 6 (27:13):
They came wave after wave after wave, and unless you
know how to fight that, uh, you're you're probably gonna lose.
Which is why I go back to my good friend
Greg Gouda, the State Center out of the Terra Haute
Vigo County area. He put together a plan that actually
one he actually beat the MAGA people as well, and
he did.

Speaker 5 (27:29):
He did it, uh in a way that was a little.

Speaker 6 (27:31):
Bit unconventional, but that but there is a way to
beat MAGA and using the great Good model is probably
the best shot that people have right now. And by
the way, you're still assuming that these people actually make
it through the through the general election, because there's still
another election we got to do.

Speaker 2 (27:44):
Yeah, they just beat their own party, right, they only
beat their own party, and so yeah, the general.

Speaker 6 (27:49):
And what reminds me of is Richard Murdoch and Dick
Luger and Joe Donnelly back in twenty twelve. Because you
stick around this sound long enough, you see everything two
three different times. Because remember h Richard Donaldy in the
in the Richard Murdoch di Dick Douger race D one
sixty forty. So forty is like the moderate normal Republican baseline.
Well that sixty percent is more ideological baseline. So the

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question is in those districts that the mac of people won,
where did those forty percent go? Do they stay home,
do they switch Democratic or do they just skip a vote?
They skip voting on together, because they're gonna be the
ones who can make probably the outcome determinative in this race.
And by the way, tell people to get lost. We
don't need you in our party. Okay, fine, see you
in the general.

Speaker 2 (28:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (28:32):
And the other thing, Abne, you have to give it
to the to the Trumpers, because they are hitting every
choke point, shall we say, in terms of electoral process
and trying to keep themselves in power. And as a

(28:53):
matter of fact, if they concentrated more on the choke
point in the straits of Homos, they would be in
a better position with any way, that's another story. Uh,
do you agree that they are very efficient in terms
of attacking folks that against them across the electoral process

(29:15):
in general?

Speaker 6 (29:16):
Yeah, I think they're fishing primaries.

Speaker 5 (29:19):
General election is not so much.

Speaker 7 (29:23):
Well, but the fact the fact that at every point,
I mean, look look at what they did in Georgia.
They raided the Uh well, I say rated, they raided.

Speaker 6 (29:33):
But George, that's a whole different ball of wax. We're
talking purely from political perspective at least for right now.
Is well, the mact people have a have a history
of winning primaries general elections. They're a little bit spottier,
I'll particular in this whole special election universe, so just
kind of keep that in mind.

Speaker 7 (29:48):
Well, what I mean is they they are attacking everything.
They're attacking the machines, the uh, they're attacking the voting machines.

Speaker 6 (29:58):
Oh yeah, and thanks for calling us here at thirteen
ten Radio one. We appreciate your phone call this afternoon.
But the thing is plain and simple. The Trump people
that do very well at primaries not so much in
general elections.

Speaker 7 (30:13):
So what I mean is there there.

Speaker 6 (30:16):
But thanks for the call, because we've got a bunch
of calls waiting and only got till two o'clock this afternoon.
But appreciate your phone call. Thanks for calling two three
nine thirteen ten. It's the number is it's a new number.

Speaker 2 (30:24):
Now, new number three one seven, four eight zero thirteen
ten three seven numbers?

Speaker 3 (30:29):
Right?

Speaker 2 (30:29):
Yeah, you did? You got the last numbers? A Doctor
Tommy Brown, our colleague here at AM thirteen ten, wanted
to know. I guess he couldn't stay on the line.
Doctor Brown wanted to ask him duel. Is he mentoring
black men and women to do what he's doing? Or
is he mentoring black men and women to do what
he's doing? It looks like the same question. So I

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doctor doctor Brown apparently was not able to stay on
the line.

Speaker 6 (30:53):
So well, I'd happy, I'd be happy to mentor if
I had time. I yeah, yeah, Now.

Speaker 5 (31:00):
I will say this.

Speaker 6 (31:00):
I'll go uh, like somebody had like you know, a
school group or something. I'll go speak to young people,
say hey, happy to talk with any guys going on.
So a young person emails me, haim to what did
you do to blog? I always try to respond with
then within the timeframe of everything that's going on. But
I haven't had a lot happened, had a whole lot,
a whole lot of time to do that this election

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season for obvious reasons.

Speaker 2 (31:22):
Well yeah, and I'm not quite sure. Again, doctor Brown
usually stays on, so he must have had somewhere else
to go. I'm not quite sure. Eric, were you able
to find out a little bit more of what doctor
Brown meant with that question that he called in at all?
See if Eric is back in there.

Speaker 3 (31:39):
That was about the extent of it.

Speaker 7 (31:40):
Wanted.

Speaker 3 (31:41):
How was he mentoring or in what way was okay, okay, sure,
the knowledge that the skills that he has with black
men and women.

Speaker 9 (31:48):
Yeah, there read my blog too, so yeah, and the
blog Yeah, tell us about that where you know what
the the My blog is my website Indie Politics is
Inndy Politics at Okay. That's why I tend to write
about local issues, state issues every once while, maybe a
national issue if it impacts Indiana. Also write for the

(32:10):
ib J right for the state House file on the cage.
We're just all over the place. My lawyer blog is
Indiana Indiana Barrister.

Speaker 2 (32:17):
So what are we what are we in for? What
are you seeing down the road for the November midterms?

Speaker 6 (32:24):
It depends on what happens at the convention level, because
the conventions are the next big Indiana. Both Democrats will
have their state conventions, Republicans will have their conventions. Yeah,
like I said, the Democratic convention, the Republican convention. Obviously,
the Secretary of State's race is a big one we're
looking at. But at the Democratic convention there's bo Bay
versus Blith Potter, bo By being the being the son

(32:47):
of Evan by no longtime family, that.

Speaker 2 (32:51):
Family equity do you think? I'm sorry, I didn't mean
to interrupt you, but I'm just really curious as to
how far that name equity is going to stretch in
the state of Indiana because you're getting a couple of generations.

Speaker 5 (33:03):
It's working really well.

Speaker 2 (33:04):
Okay, okay, okay, because.

Speaker 6 (33:05):
They have a lot of older folks who are delegates.
They remember the Bye family and the by name. They
remember when when times were good, and then and then
control and sort of you can't necessarily Nostalgia is a
very powerful tool to motivate people.

Speaker 2 (33:19):
And my family's associated and it doesn't.

Speaker 6 (33:21):
The left and right because you get the get cands
like you remember a simpler time when mom and dad
are still on the front porch and the kids in
the backyard, the Federation flag waving the wind, blah blah
blah blah, and we want to go we want to
go back to a simpler time, want to return to
the good old days. Well, the good old days weren't
all that great for everybody. It's it's a classic. You
don't remember the past exactly the way it happened. If

(33:43):
you did, you go crazy, like that was there, like
cholera and like play and typhoid mary when Grandpa was alive.

Speaker 2 (33:49):
Well those things those things as well.

Speaker 5 (33:51):
Yeah, we couldn't vote, no separated.

Speaker 7 (33:55):
Person.

Speaker 6 (33:55):
Yeah, so if we go back to these good old days,
we want to see what what these good old days
were at all about.

Speaker 2 (34:00):
Make America great again. Indeed, Joe and then Katie and
then we got to let him do go because he's
got he's got some stuff to do. But Joe, go ahead.

Speaker 4 (34:07):
How are you very good afternoon, and good your guests,
good after.

Speaker 10 (34:12):
I was listening this morning to the governor when he
was interviewed, and he made a comment, if you didn't
support this redistrict and plan, you chose to stand against
what we believe is good for the people of Indiana,
and now you're dealing with the consequence consequences of your decisions.
Can you explain to me why does he think redistricting

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is good for, say, Democrats, if it would have well
our voting power.

Speaker 6 (34:44):
Like I said, Mike brun I, we've done to other
for years. We get along really well. Uh, I respecfully
disagree with the government. Redissey would have been good for Indiana,
good for Republicans because number one to make to to
to make uh, the seventh and the first more republic
can you have to make the other ones have to
be made more democrat because the people don't go anywhere.

(35:04):
Just basically, it's it sliced up a pieces of pie,
and you want more blueberries over here, thatan he's gotta
have less blueberries over here. So and so this affort
to give like a nine to zero aggressive would have
probably end up resulting five to four because you would
have made certain certain places less less Republican because you
got to add more or Democrats at number two. What
I don't think the governments people fully appreciate or understand

(35:26):
at least right now, or maybe they do, they're just
basically doing doing their public talking points, is have they
cut up Marion County in the three congressional districts. That
would have set off a crack in like nobody's business,
because all these little old ladies uh thir anything, uh
Emerson and sixteenth and TIBs would have like, hey, they're
trying to take away your right to vote and take
us back to Jim Crow.

Speaker 5 (35:45):
They would have come out and droves, and it.

Speaker 6 (35:48):
Would have been it would have been probably end up
losing more more than anything could do because for for
a Democrat, for Republicans to win, the Democrats have to
stay at a certain number, and anything that increase that
Democratic turnout would have made life very very for the Republicans.

Speaker 5 (36:01):
So the Republicans saw that the smart Wednesday, let's put
it that way.

Speaker 6 (36:04):
Smart okay, like like my good friend Rod brace in
the president pro ten uh huh could be in danger.

Speaker 5 (36:11):
No, he's not.

Speaker 2 (36:11):
He's not. No, So the speculation is incorrect.

Speaker 6 (36:15):
It's always been correct. Cause first all, number one, Rod
Bray is up for election until twenty twenty eight. Well, yeah,
so and number two out of the let's say Republicans
win those seven rescial district k. Fine, that's seven out
of forty, and you need at least twenty six to
have a majority. So my question is where are you
going to find those other sixteen?

Speaker 10 (36:34):
No?

Speaker 5 (36:35):
Ye, good luck finding them because they're they're not there.

Speaker 2 (36:38):
Quick question, and then we'll go to Katie. If someone
lost in the primary under one, part of the answer
is now under one party, can they refile as an
independent for the general.

Speaker 6 (36:50):
No, you can run for under anyanos loser law. Once
you've lost in the primary, you cannot run again for
that You can't run for that race in the general
under a different party. At what you can do you
can run for a different office under different party, but
you cannot run for the same office. On the same
party if you lost in the prime under the under
the sore loser.

Speaker 2 (37:08):
Law, that's called the sore loser law for real. Ah,
because I was the Mary County sheriff's rates. Uh is
of particular interest because yeah, there there's there's still yet
to be a Republican candidate. And you know, I was thinking, well,
if the Democratic candidate that that lost to the other

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Democratic candidate, if there's no Republican, can that one replace?

Speaker 10 (37:35):
No.

Speaker 6 (37:35):
Now, just just so people know that if there if
there was no candidate file Uh, because my good Friendale
good was given was given much. You should have followed
somebody here here and here. Those positions there can't be
appointed by a certain date, if you know, if there's
no if there is no candidate or primary candidate, you
can't appoint someone to run in that position.

Speaker 2 (37:55):
So so a person that lost.

Speaker 5 (37:58):
No, if you lost, you can't do it.

Speaker 2 (38:00):
If you lost, period, you can't do it appointment or otherwise.

Speaker 5 (38:03):
Okay, if you lost, you can't run.

Speaker 6 (38:05):
You can't run, and that you can't run for that
office under another party's banner.

Speaker 10 (38:10):
Right.

Speaker 6 (38:10):
Let's now, let's see you lost. Let's say I read
for treasurer. I lost but there's but there's no county order.
I could be appointed to running that county.

Speaker 5 (38:18):
Auditor spot by another party or by the same party.

Speaker 2 (38:24):
Okay, I got you. You just can't run for the
same office.

Speaker 5 (38:28):
Welcome to Indiana election law.

Speaker 2 (38:30):
I'm glad you got I know you're yeah, thank you,
thank you. I love it. Okay, Katie, go ahead.

Speaker 4 (38:35):
How are you how you guys doing.

Speaker 11 (38:37):
My granddaughter goes to Bloomington, Indiana. She went to go
vote yesterday. They turned her down. So my thinking is
how many students losing that we losing vote for because
they in different cities and stuff. You know, they can't
come home like on the next election in self conveying school,
but they're not being able to vote. So how many

(38:59):
are we losing bad them not being able to vote?

Speaker 5 (39:02):
Well, the thing is to keep in mind you vote
where you're registered to vote. Period.

Speaker 6 (39:06):
Now she was registered voting in Monroe County, then she
could vote in Monroe County, but she's But if she's
not registered to vote in Monroe County, she used to
vote here in Marion County or whatever county you folks
are from.

Speaker 2 (39:16):
Is she registered in Marion County? I mean, then Monroe County.

Speaker 11 (39:21):
How many students are we losing because there's many students
in college. They need to change as all because students
cannot fly over the world yet to vote.

Speaker 6 (39:31):
But here's the thing, though, practical election day, you've got
thirty days of early, early, and absentee voting. So he's
to do a mail land ballot. She could come home
vote on the weekends. Consiled, it's only well that now'
drive just come up on a Saturday, go vote earlier,
then go go back home again.

Speaker 2 (39:46):
Or mail vote absentee.

Speaker 6 (39:47):
We we argue, people say, voter sprinds like that we make.
We get people so many different ways to vote and
have their voices heard. But if you're the voter, you
gotta take advantage of it, plain and simple.

Speaker 2 (39:58):
Well it gets back. I'm not sorry, go ahead, go ahead, man,
I don't.

Speaker 11 (40:02):
Have none to sound. I just think it's very disappointing
because somebody's going to Bloomton, it's not flying back to
New York to make that ballot.

Speaker 6 (40:11):
But once again, ablute, or they can request a mail
in ballot if you're going to be if you if
you're not going to be out of town on election day,
you just basically request naps ballot, they get it to
you and then you can vote from there.

Speaker 2 (40:23):
So all right, thank you. Yeah, And it gets back
to what you were saying right off the top of
the show when you first sat down, was voter education. Education.
You know, like you're not so much impressed with the
numbers the number of voters have turned out as much
as the intelligent choices or the not intelligent, the educated choices, voters.

Speaker 5 (40:47):
Everybody's the top of their opinion. I know I'm right,
so I don't. So it doesn't, it doesn't bother.

Speaker 3 (40:53):
I got a question. You may have said this, but
five out of seven of the state center is running
for re election supposedly are being ousted, right or at
least three out of the seven. What are the chances
those senators who replaced them would go against Trump? Would
that happen? Could that happen? Could they say, you know,
we agree with these these men or women who were there,

(41:15):
We're gonna still go the same way they read a politician.

Speaker 6 (41:17):
Lie, you tell me politician would actually say something to
get elected then go back on their word.

Speaker 2 (41:26):
Lloyd and Lord Trump is.

Speaker 3 (41:31):
Just curious.

Speaker 6 (41:38):
Don't move with the politician against it?

Speaker 2 (41:41):
Indeed, so, but yeah, so Eric, the answer to your
question is yeah, I mean, look at the look at
the Supreme Court. I mean we can start the top
flat out lied about what they would do, and then
when they got you know, confirmed, turn around and did something.

Speaker 3 (41:58):
Because he seems to you confident they're going to go
his way. But they could change their mind once they
get well, well.

Speaker 6 (42:05):
First of all, they got to get three. I was
going to say, yeah, they got to get through a
general election first, that's true, even before they do anything.
And once again, a lot of these races were sixty forty,
so the question is in the primary. But you also
got Democrats. And by the way, the Democrats have actually
run somebody in every Senate race eighty ninety percent of
the Senate races.

Speaker 5 (42:23):
There's a Democratic counterpart.

Speaker 6 (42:25):
Now, even so some districts may be more like the
Republican people will come out for a contest like we
saw here in Mary kind of whether it's Lawrence or
over in Pike. If there's a contest and tested, racist
people will come out and actually vote. And actually a
contest and competition will drive up will drive up voter turnout,
then make it then vote centers and all this other stuff.

(42:45):
So think about this. Let's say in the district of
the mac of person won sixty forty. Okay, fine, if
I was part of those forty percent, where do I go?
Do I vote Republican? Do I stay home? Or do
I just skip that race all together? And what does
that do for the Democrat challenger as well? Got to
keep that in mind. And by the way, also too,
I think the Democrats running somebody in every Senate district

(43:08):
only helps bow Bye at the end of the day,
because let's say, normally a Republican would like you know,
say seventy for some of the vote. Now, with the
Democrat on the ballot, if you're going to vote for
a Democrat state senator, I'm probably going to vote for
a Democrat sector of state, which is once again b
bye if O Bye is a nominee, and so that
drives up the vote totals all.

Speaker 5 (43:28):
Over the place.

Speaker 2 (43:29):
Well, Diego be the nominee for the Republicans I incumbent.
I can't imagine that it wouldn't be or wouldn't run.

Speaker 6 (43:35):
I would say, technically right now, the odds favored Diego.
But then again, and Dave Shelton hasn't quite caught the fire.
Uh that the judge Dave Shelton would. But assuming Diego
is a nominee, then if I were a Republican not
prepared to go down in flames like the Titanic or
the Hindenburg.

Speaker 2 (43:54):
You think by will be that strong.

Speaker 6 (43:55):
Yes, really, because number one, it's twenty twenty six, so
mid timer in the favor of the party out of power,
which are Democrats these days. The other thing I think
it helps bow buy is the fact that Democrats are
actually enthusiastic, energetic and enthusiastic about his his race, his
his campaign. Then then like know the by name, but
what used to be you know whatever.

Speaker 2 (44:16):
It's still here in Indiana though, and he lives here, Yeah,
in Indiana.

Speaker 6 (44:19):
And by the way, in twenty six, please keep in mind,
there is no gubernatorial race at the top of the ticket,
there's no presidential race at the top of the ticket,
and there's no US Senate race at the top of
the ticket. So no governor, no president, no US Senate.
Who's at the top of the ticket? Bow bye and
diego Morales.

Speaker 2 (44:35):
So there you go. Let me ask you a question.
This this this so called you know, when I hear
Bobai running for secretary of state. I'm thinking, oh, he's
going to follow his father's path. Uh, in his father's footsteps,
you know, early thirties ran for secretary of state, one,
then ran for governor and one, and then you know,
went to the US Senate in one from there, do

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you see by tracking bow bye the younger, by track
making that same track, because again him him starting out
with just that very race, it triggered that this is
eerily similar to the exact path that his dad took.

Speaker 6 (45:09):
If you stick around politics long enough, you see everything
two through different times.

Speaker 5 (45:12):
I'll just leave it at that.

Speaker 2 (45:14):
Okay, so you saw it too, though you saw the similarities,
of course, yeah, I know that's what you do. Not
from here, okay, okay, any thanks to an Illinois we
our politicians go to jail, so sometimes they don't stay there,
trumpet and you can vote more often. Yeah yeah, yeah yeah. Uh,
speaking of Illinois is a done deal. Now the stadium

(45:37):
will stay in Illinois, Chicago Bears stadium will stay there.

Speaker 6 (45:40):
I would not be surprised. Uh, you saw one big
giant negotiation, the hold on yards. I would not be
surprised if the Bear's actually stayed. I haven't checked that recently.
I have a lot of friends who are still in
the Chicago area. A good friend of mine who works
for w M. A. Y Rado in Springfield. He has
a job that I used to do back when I
was Springfield.

Speaker 5 (46:00):
We talk on the cage, so I.

Speaker 6 (46:01):
Got to give them a buzz and find out what
exactly is going on with the Bears of Football Stadium.

Speaker 2 (46:05):
Why don't they want to pay? The Bears organization, I mean,
Indiana is basically throwing everything but the kitchen sink at
their feet, begging please please come, and we're ready for you.
All all you have to do is pull, you know,
pull the trigger. This from what I understand from some
of my friends in Chicago is that the Bears, everybody
wants them to stay, but the Bears organization itself simply

(46:26):
does not want to pay the money.

Speaker 5 (46:28):
So what you say is the Bears want something for free.

Speaker 2 (46:31):
That's what my friends in Chicago were telling me. I
don't know what do you? What say you?

Speaker 6 (46:35):
So what you say, does the Bears want something for
free and have somebody else pay for it?

Speaker 2 (46:39):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (46:40):
I think you just answered your own question.

Speaker 2 (46:42):
Okay, So then it's coming to the Northwest Indiana. I
guess I don't know.

Speaker 6 (46:46):
I say it was coming to northwest Indiana just basically
the Bears. The Bears want to get a state of
for its little money out of pocket as humanly possible.

Speaker 2 (46:51):
Yeah that makes sense. Yeah is that good business sense?

Speaker 5 (46:54):
I guess yeah, and think that.

Speaker 6 (46:55):
Keep in mind is the Bears Stadium is literally off
of I ninety when you come down the interstate. The
question is that somebody from Arlington Heights to the western
suburbs want to drive on Sunday morning, go through Chicago
traffic down three fifty five to ninety all the way
Indiana for a Bears game.

Speaker 5 (47:14):
That's not that farther.

Speaker 6 (47:15):
Well, it is, distance wise, No, it would we when
I talk about distance to talk about time, okay, because
in Illinois we don't measure distance. We don't measure point
A to point begin in miles.

Speaker 5 (47:26):
We measured in time. How far is that about? An
hour away? Yeah?

Speaker 6 (47:29):
Like by the nastional Like you asked me how far
it was, I told you just aboutn hour, because doesn't
matter what traffic is, it's gonna take an hour to
get there.

Speaker 5 (47:34):
It's like Innapolis. How long is it taking it from
my house?

Speaker 6 (47:36):
Twenty minutes. But I asked how twenty minutes? That's all
it takes you get from point A to point B
twenty minutes. And so the question is do you want
to leave on Saturday night to get to the football
stadium on Sunday at noon on Sunday?

Speaker 2 (47:48):
Okay, I got But from what I understand, it's roughly Okay,
you're right. Distance. I don't know about time, but it's
roughly the same distance from where the old stadium is
to Arlington Heights. Is that where the news datum would
be in ham and Indiana?

Speaker 5 (48:01):
Yeah, or somewhere? Yeah, miles is one?

Speaker 2 (48:04):
Miles is one? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (48:05):
Time sometimes different?

Speaker 2 (48:08):
Okay, anything we forget because we certainly would be talking
to you again. I'm sure. I'm looking forward to November. Actually,
the November midterms are going to be exciting. I think
it's going to be really exciting.

Speaker 5 (48:16):
It'll be it'll be interesting.

Speaker 6 (48:18):
Like like I said, Uh, there are days I love
what I do for a living, Otherwise I would have
done it for thirty years. Some days I don't like
it very much. But and right now Michael is just
to get some sleep.

Speaker 2 (48:29):
When might that be an easy?

Speaker 7 (48:31):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (48:31):
Probably it's going to be when I get done here.

Speaker 6 (48:33):
Oh good, good good, I got I gotta I gotta
make a stop of the edible shop and get available.

Speaker 5 (48:40):
To get to sleep.

Speaker 2 (48:41):
Oh okay, edible is to get some sleep.

Speaker 6 (48:43):
Because my mind is always racing, always running, always.

Speaker 5 (48:47):
I just need to whine down and be left alone.

Speaker 3 (48:50):
Yeah, I'm I got to ask you one more question.

Speaker 2 (48:53):
It's got another question. Okay.

Speaker 3 (48:57):
Constitutionally Trump can't run again, right, right, But what are
the chances he would try? What do you think he
would try again? Do you think he would?

Speaker 6 (49:05):
I think he would try. But you're asking for you know,
serve three terms. Like the last president who that was
Franklin Dono Roosevelt, and we were in the middle of
World War two, so this is going to get a
filtered cigarette in a wheelchair?

Speaker 5 (49:17):
Good luck.

Speaker 2 (49:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (49:21):
And by the way, the amendment, the change that was
done mainly because of Roosevelt. They want to president servant mode.

Speaker 2 (49:29):
He didn't leave without making a fuss the last time,
So I don't I don't know if there's any reason
to believe that, you know, win, lose, or that he's
going to do it again.

Speaker 5 (49:39):
It's like one of my favorite TV shows is All
the family.

Speaker 2 (49:43):
I loved all of the family.

Speaker 6 (49:45):
And there was one where Archie, Bunker and Maud were
going against because progressive conservative, and he was like, well, Bucker,
you like you voted for Roosevelt, Like yeah, but I
think he was going to hold it out like the pope.

Speaker 2 (50:01):
Oh my goodness. Just a classic character. One of my
favorite lines he said was he just needs to go
see the growing to colleges because she's just driving me crazy.
But but but yeah, so it uh, it's going to
be interesting when when that time comes, you know, two
and a half years from now, when that time comes.

Speaker 5 (50:21):
Not the way Trump is not a young man anymore either.

Speaker 3 (50:23):
That's true.

Speaker 2 (50:24):
Eighty birthday, right, Joe Biden was why is that never?
Why is that never pointed to? I mean Joe Biden.
It was everything was all over Joe Biden age as
no one ever mentioned Trump's.

Speaker 6 (50:37):
Age because I would argue that Joe Biden situation, Joe Biden,
Joe Biden was a sort of as cognitive abilities at
that age, and.

Speaker 2 (50:46):
Trump has cognitive abilities.

Speaker 6 (50:48):
Yeah, okay, remember Trump said, remember Trumps any pass the test?

Speaker 2 (50:52):
Remember I've been testing? Yeah, yeah, I know what a
camel is.

Speaker 5 (50:57):
A dromedary bacteria, and so two humps to one humps suppressident.

Speaker 2 (51:03):
Is becoming extinct, by the way, but anyway it is
check it out. Yeah, you know, but the same set
of standards simply just do not.

Speaker 6 (51:11):
Apply, not not not not not when you deal with
partisans in the twenty first century. The one thing I
do want to hit before heading out of here was
the seventh Congressional District Desti Wells versus Andre Andre Carson.
Like like I said, Destie ticked off a lot of
people when she ran against Andre Carson. Not so much
that Andre wasn't titled to it, but the very least

(51:33):
right way to the last minute. You run four or
five times already and now you're losing this. And the
thing that uh, I would argue that Dessie Wells had
some personality related issues just very didn't work well to
play with others and very difficult to get along with
in some types of situations. And when we did our
informal pole at any politics just so, I said, hey,

(51:54):
it's informal pole, non scientific. You know, here's where it is.
She's she's human putting out slop. I was like, hey,
wait a second here, now, I've always you treated you well.
May not agree with each other well, always shoot each
other well and treat each other fairly. But if you're
going to come after me for an informal poll, okay,
now it's game on. And I got all day, keep

(52:18):
it covering up.

Speaker 5 (52:19):
I got all day.

Speaker 6 (52:20):
Oh look, you were insisted on that, you were inconsistent
on this, You were inconsistent on this, and blah blah blah.

Speaker 2 (52:24):
So does it appear to you that she simply wants
to get elected because there doesn't seem to be a lane.
You know, it reminds me of Bob Kern drawing, you know,
just putting the toe in the water every anything, you know,
like throwing spaghetti against the wall. Whatever sticks. So that's
what I'm gonna take because I want I want the
spaghetti to be done or something. I want to be elected.
That's her energy. Is what reminds me of of Bob

(52:48):
Kern's energy. And that where's your lane? You're all over
the map. I we have one caller that has been
running against Andrea Carson for more than twenty years, Pierre, Yeah,
Pierre Pullings. But that's his lane, you know that, we
know that that's where We have other folks in the
community that they keep running for the same office or
you know, in the same area. When when somebody jumps

(53:08):
around all over like that, they it feels like they
just want to get elected.

Speaker 5 (53:12):
It is is a classic.

Speaker 6 (53:14):
They want to be an elected official so bad that
they'll run for anything and everything and win absolutely nothing.

Speaker 5 (53:22):
And that's and that's where we are with miss Wells.

Speaker 6 (53:24):
Hopefully as well as take some time out, no go
go re establish good relationships with with with people. And
that's gonna be the weird thing coming from me with people.
Learn some humility. I don't I'm coming from me, but
I tell you need to learn humility.

Speaker 5 (53:40):
You know, you got it.

Speaker 2 (53:41):
You might be something there, there might be something there exactly.

Speaker 6 (53:44):
But but I always tell people, don't pick a fight
with the media because it used to be don't pick
a fight with a man in by the barrel because
you'll lose. Saying with a guy with multimedia platforms, you
will always lose and will always win.

Speaker 2 (53:55):
There you go and we'll just we'll leave it right
there and we will thank you. Please, he's gonna get
some sleep, Please, please go get some rest. Thank you
of doing pure for coming in and we'll be back
with more community connection right after this. And we are back.
We are back. We are back with community connection. I

(54:17):
want to thank Abdul Hakeem Shabbaz political journalists and attorney
and our colleague here with our sister station here in
the building, wiv c uh an attorney. As we were saying, Eric,
we can't list all of ab duels, all of his
hat city wears. But the one thing he really wants

(54:38):
to do right now, uh is to get some rest.

Speaker 3 (54:42):
Oh yeah, he's got.

Speaker 2 (54:44):
So we were sitting home a little early. We're sitting
home two minutes before two o'clock. So hopefully he can
take that little, that little advanced lead and get there
and get some true snooze.

Speaker 7 (54:55):
You know.

Speaker 2 (54:56):
Some z's catch some z's is that what they say? Catch?

Speaker 4 (54:58):
Still say that. I can.

Speaker 5 (55:00):
He's busy.

Speaker 3 (55:01):
I mean he's he's teaching, he's lawiering, he's writing, he's
on the air, he's doing everything.

Speaker 2 (55:07):
Very much a conservative, very much still a Republican.

Speaker 3 (55:10):
But not Maga, that's true, not Maga.

Speaker 2 (55:13):
And I think that folks probably are going to learn
that difference more and more and more as time wear
is on. But yeah, so anyway, it's good to talk
talk with the duel.

Speaker 7 (55:24):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (55:25):
Three one seven eight zero thirteen ten three one seven
for eight zero thirteen ten. We are going to have
open lines the rest of the world. Well, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, nope,
I take that back part of the way. Part of
the way. We've got. We've got about twenty minutes or
so for open lines, and then we're going to go
to the Indianapolis recorders. Uh, Danny Bridges for our weekly

(55:46):
sports segment, we had to we had to put on pause.
We had to put b calls on pause because because
on pause, he's got a new venture right now and
it's making it impossible for him to be able to
join us. But he said when he when he can,
he will, So that's good. Yeah, We're going to put
all that on Danny for now. He can handle it. Indeed, indeed, indeed, Uh,

(56:09):
let's go back to the phone lines. Lisa, go ahead.
How are you?

Speaker 12 (56:14):
How you doing?

Speaker 2 (56:15):
I'm doing well. Pardon.

Speaker 12 (56:20):
I wanted to ask about the electoral college. I think
we need to eliminate that. We don't understand how it works.
And how would you get on the electoral college if
you wanted to be on the.

Speaker 2 (56:36):
Oh, that's a biggie. I'm not going to pretend to know, uh,
exactly what you're asking or to know the answer anyway.
But I do know. I do know that it lies
with Congress. You know, a lot of it lies with
Congress and the elimination. There have long been calls for

(56:57):
the total and complete elimination of the electoral College. I
tell you a long time, and I tell you who
would be more versed in that, and that would be
our contributing analyst James Patterson, who knows.

Speaker 12 (57:09):
Please ask him about that and that stuff.

Speaker 2 (57:16):
Yeah, but yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

Speaker 3 (57:19):
But.

Speaker 12 (57:20):
Electoral college everybody's vote on accouncil themsel.

Speaker 2 (57:24):
Yeah, I would not. I would not be upset at
all if the electoral College were eliminated because it is
an outdated, unfair system that determines elections more and more
rather than the people. And that that was not the intent.
That was not the original intent, and it should not
be the intent. I know it's not the intent now.
But I don't know how much appetite uh, you know,

(57:47):
current members of Congress and the current lawmakers in both
the House and the Senate. I don't know how much
of an appetite they have for tackling that. I would
love to see it. I'd like to be I'd like
for that if they do, if the Democrats do take
over the House in the Senate in November during the midterms,
I'd like to see that. Could you know electoral college reform,

(58:07):
which would be part of overall voting reform, you know,
just voting reform in general.

Speaker 12 (58:12):
Vote that our person is in that office right now,
won't try to do an executive order to stay.

Speaker 4 (58:19):
Please, please don't do that.

Speaker 2 (58:23):
You can do all the executive orders he wants, but
they keep tying them up one after the other. In
court they did, and and so many of them. Eric
Wright been tossed.

Speaker 4 (58:37):
No.

Speaker 12 (58:38):
Uh, the Supreme Court, that's that's crazy. That rollback bang
that how do you think we need to deal with that?

Speaker 2 (58:46):
Well, I asked that on the show as well of
I can't remember who I asked that of Supreme Court reform,
and uh, it was answered that it's a lot more, oh,
Julia Jr. Is a lot more, a lot more involved
than something that can be done in the two year

(59:06):
short timeframe, and maybe something that can be put on
the back burner. But the most important thing even before
you get to the Supreme Court, you have to you
have to have voter reform because if you don't reform
who gets in office, you know, voting for who gets
in office, you're not going to reform the I guess
the number on the Supreme Court or the balance of

(59:27):
the Supreme Court, if there is such a thing called
balance anymore. But yeah, yeah, vote voting reform is the
key right there. And I kind of agree with her,
do you like she said Supreme Court reform would be
a lot more involved and probably would take longer than
the two years, and you'd get pushed back. But definitely, yeah,
but voting reform.

Speaker 12 (59:47):
I think that he should be taken out of theirs.
He should have been excommunicated from America never time. Maybe library,
I don't know, Sandy somewhere.

Speaker 2 (59:56):
Well, if the Democrat let's take over the House and
the Senate, he's going to be neutralized, you know, he's not.
He's not gonna have they don't have to. They don't
have to put in uh, you know, a request to
impeach him or what have you. That's that's not necessarily
gonna be.

Speaker 12 (01:00:14):
I don't want him impeach. I want him excommunicated he
committed treason on this country.

Speaker 2 (01:00:19):
Yeah, would, But it wouldn't it be nice to see
him just standing there just with no power, you know,
nothing he can do because they're not the Senate and
the House. They're not utilizing, they're not fulfilling their responsibility
to check his power. And I guarantee you, I guarantee
you if that changes in November, he's going to be
checked all over the place. There'll be investigation after him.

(01:00:40):
But he won't get money. He won't get the purse strings,
he won't get anything. Be flailing in the wind. So
that might be that might be the thing. I don't know,
But nothing's going to happen unless we vote.

Speaker 12 (01:00:52):
We wanting to uh to make money, and I said,
I said that all of his money should go through
the not for profit organizations.

Speaker 4 (01:00:59):
I said that on.

Speaker 12 (01:01:02):
I can't think his name sharp And because it was
all about making money, I don't believe he even expected
to get in that seat.

Speaker 2 (01:01:12):
Because it was just all a game to him. He
didn't though, Well, it's like.

Speaker 12 (01:01:17):
I said, it's a game. It's those ones that's behind
the scenes that we gotta worry about. Those ones. We
don't know that pulling the puppet streams. Those are the
ones we don't worry about.

Speaker 2 (01:01:28):
You gotta, well, we gotta worry about him, learn more
about him, and do what we can do. As long
as we do what we can do. As long as
we do what we can do, we're in there.

Speaker 12 (01:01:37):
And there was a ninety five I want to share this.
There was a ninety five year.

Speaker 2 (01:01:42):
Old that voted.

Speaker 12 (01:01:44):
She said she never missed the voted. Miss Lula Nichols
was her name, and she wanted me to care it.
She was over the National Negro Women's Organization for years.
She came out in the rain at the polls at
the Marion County I was working the post and she
made sure her neighbor make sure she gets there every year.

(01:02:07):
And it was just an amazing thing to see. And
so anybody that talks about how voting is not important,
like I talked to two guys today. They said they
don't vote and they didn't vote, and I said, all right,
I walked away because I'm gonna start saying I don't
have no time to talk to somebody that don't have
enough sense to know that they have a voice and

(01:02:30):
your vote matters.

Speaker 7 (01:02:30):
You need to get involved in the process.

Speaker 2 (01:02:35):
Wow, well, I appreciate your call and I certainly appreciate
your point of view. That's, you know, we have to
be serious about what we have, we really do and
thank you Lia. That's that, you know, all good points made.

Speaker 3 (01:02:48):
Can't argue with that, Eric, not at all, certainly cannot.
You know, that electoral college thing, it is it's been
around what since seventeen eighty nine, that's a long time time.
And of course when it comes to I've always felt
too we should just do away with it, but it's
so complicated to do to get rid of it. It's

(01:03:09):
like pretty much everything with the government when it comes
to certain things, it's complicated. It's complicated to move.

Speaker 4 (01:03:15):
Of course.

Speaker 3 (01:03:15):
The electoral college, what is it balances state and popular
representation and choosing the president. From what I see here, Yeah,
voters pick the electors who vote based on state results.
Winner take all most states, award all the votes to
the state wide winter and critics call it a democratic
Supporters say it protects smaller states like Indiana.

Speaker 2 (01:03:36):
Well, I'm thinking Delaware and Delaware.

Speaker 3 (01:03:38):
Rhode Island, those are yeah, California and Texas will be
you know massive, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:03:43):
Those Delaware Rhode Island, Maine, main Those are the ones
that are always used in the argument that you know
they how do you balance it for them, because they're
the ones you know that would be Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:03:55):
Yeah, I've always thought, let's just go with the popular
but there are reasons why.

Speaker 2 (01:04:00):
I don't know why. It's supposed to be popular vote.

Speaker 3 (01:04:03):
Well, that's what it should be, a popular vote.

Speaker 2 (01:04:05):
Most whoever gets the most votes win.

Speaker 3 (01:04:07):
That's what it's supposed to be.

Speaker 2 (01:04:08):
And there are several elections there and administrations that would
not be had it been.

Speaker 3 (01:04:14):
Just the popular vote.

Speaker 2 (01:04:18):
Yeah, that's true. The electoral college came in and it
has come into play because.

Speaker 3 (01:04:22):
There you've seen elections where it's gone the opposite way.
One the electoral was one way, the popular was the other,
totally opposite. Yeah, and things went. It's like, why that happened?

Speaker 2 (01:04:33):
Yeah, well Trump isn't you know, his his I think
the first time.

Speaker 3 (01:04:39):
H yeah, I think so.

Speaker 2 (01:04:40):
Yeah, I think that's it's time anyway. Three one seven,
four eight zero thirteen ten three one seven for eight
zero thirteen ten. Whatever is on your mind again, We've
got sports coming up with the Indianapolis recorders. Danny Bridges
at the bottom of the hour, right now, what's on
your mind? We can take your calls. I will say
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Speaker 2 (01:05:44):
I tell you what if you're you know, not cruising,
but would love to go to Clues Hall on the
thirty first of this month. Djgino has guaranteed.

Speaker 3 (01:05:57):
Okay, oh yeah, he's guaranteed.

Speaker 2 (01:05:58):
Okay, we'll have it East one. I don't know about two,
but that we'll have at least one more round, another
round of ticket giveaways to his celebration of choirs.

Speaker 3 (01:06:10):
That's nice.

Speaker 2 (01:06:11):
We know not win, but we know not win, but
we do know that if Gino says it the mark
it down, he's he's going to do it. It is
so yeah. Clues Memorial Hall, Campus of the beautiful Butler University,
May thirty first, Ricky Dillard with special featured guests Vincent

(01:06:32):
Bohannan and s so v and the Chicago Mass Choir
as well as five local choirs that are going to
open the show. So power packed evening of praise and
worship and just straight old out good you know, good
old entertainment, good old fun, fun in the name of it.

Speaker 3 (01:06:49):
And to work out with Ricky do you keep say
I'm telling you it's a workout.

Speaker 7 (01:06:53):
He is.

Speaker 3 (01:06:54):
The man is full of energy when he's directed. I mean,
he's just I mean he's just moving the whole time. Wow,
And you mentioned local choirs. Reverend Doctor Carl Liggans from
Mount Olive Missionary Baptist Church is a part of it all.
James Andrews Total New Beginnings Mondo Hall from a New
Direction Church. Jerry Garrison over at Eastern Star and Rice

(01:07:18):
and Robinson from Light of the World all apart as well.
So it's going to be nice. Get tickets. If you
want to buy them, you can get them at the
Clues Memorial Hall box office or at d J Gino.
He'll get your set up.

Speaker 2 (01:07:37):
So he's yeah, he's already been through the building for
this week.

Speaker 3 (01:07:41):
See, I've missed him each time he's coming.

Speaker 2 (01:07:43):
You miss late.

Speaker 3 (01:07:44):
Yeah, last time he was. I think he's been here
a couple of times and I've missed him.

Speaker 2 (01:07:48):
He records right across.

Speaker 4 (01:07:49):
The hall, he does.

Speaker 3 (01:07:51):
I'm down here when he's recording, so.

Speaker 2 (01:07:53):
Down here, I missed it.

Speaker 3 (01:07:55):
He's across the hall. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:07:56):
Yeah, So wow, there's that. I'm trying to think of
what Danny might be talking about in just a few minutes.
With sports, everything is kind of well, I know what
Danny will be talking about. The race. We know that's
coming up.

Speaker 1 (01:08:13):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:08:13):
But as far as the Colds, the Pacers, well, the
Fever start their fever. Yeah, they start their regular season Saturday,
I think so. I think it's here against the Dallas
Dallas Wings. I've got I had had the schedule. I
need to I need to post one. We need to
post everybody, the colds Pacers Fever. Yes, we need to
post all of their Yeah, I post all of their schedules.

(01:08:37):
I believe it's Saturday at one. Looks like Saturday at
one and go, okay, is that it? I think second
Saturday at one at Banker's Life. Yeah, this is that
we're looking for.

Speaker 7 (01:08:54):
M H.

Speaker 3 (01:08:55):
I think that's yeah. Let's see if it opens up here,
we go Saturday.

Speaker 2 (01:09:00):
They may not wings at fever said it, or may
not want to. Cambridge Gamebridge. Did I say Banker's Life?
Oh my goodness, did you say that? I meant to
say Gamebridge, Gamebridge, Field House, say Gamebridge twice? Gamebridge. So
somebody the other day said I was talking to somebody
and they said the Hoosier Dome and I'm like, wait

(01:09:22):
a minute. Yeah, they said the Hoosier Dome and I'm like, whoa,
that one's gone.

Speaker 3 (01:09:27):
They live out of state, right no, right here.

Speaker 2 (01:09:30):
I knew where they were talking about. They were talking
about the stadium, the dome, the covered dome.

Speaker 3 (01:09:35):
State Lucas Oil.

Speaker 2 (01:09:36):
Lucas Oil.

Speaker 3 (01:09:37):
Now, yeah, that dome is gone.

Speaker 2 (01:09:39):
Dome is gone. That was held up by when. I
don't know if there are any designs like that in
anywhere around the country either.

Speaker 3 (01:09:47):
I don't think. I'm not sure there are anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:09:51):
That was so cutting edge.

Speaker 3 (01:09:53):
It was quite unique, and even I think one time
they had to loan or they had to send a
panel from here to another stadium like that.

Speaker 2 (01:10:02):
Yeah, it was a big deal, a big deal. Uh
and uh it just uh, it just became a dinosaur
though in terms of stadiums, simply.

Speaker 3 (01:10:13):
You needed more room, more access, and a lot more
a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:10:17):
More user friendly. Definitely, even though it was cutting edge
at the time, it quickly became extinct. Exactly exactly quickly
became extinct. So there's that. But yeah, it'll be interesting
to see how well this newly revamped Fever team does.
And uh, you know, Caitlin Clark, I guess I don't know.

(01:10:40):
Did you hear that they had yet to sell out
the home opener?

Speaker 3 (01:10:43):
I heard that, So I'm pretty surprised.

Speaker 2 (01:10:45):
Is the Star fading a little bit?

Speaker 3 (01:10:48):
Well, it could be gas prices have affected people, you know,
buying their tickets and going there from different places, and
everything's more expensive now. That could be.

Speaker 4 (01:10:59):
That could be.

Speaker 2 (01:11:00):
She's not the phenom. I mean, she's not the talk
of the league. Anymore. She's just not she was, but
she was, and missing all of last season or three
fourths three fourths of last season didn't hurt and it
allowed for other names to come up on the stage.
I tell you now, the hottest name in the w NBA.
Do you know who it is?

Speaker 4 (01:11:19):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:11:20):
No, No, the richest.

Speaker 3 (01:11:21):
Yes, Leah Boston came to mind right away.

Speaker 2 (01:11:24):
Paige Beckers from Dallas and they're playing Dallas. Paige Beckers is. Yeah,
she's she's one of the hot because she.

Speaker 3 (01:11:35):
That's right, they're playing.

Speaker 2 (01:11:36):
She's good.

Speaker 3 (01:11:37):
That's going to be interesting to watch.

Speaker 2 (01:11:39):
Yeah, she's very, very good and has things that you know,
there's a lot of players that have things that Caitlyn
Clark doesn't. And probably one of the biggest, most obvious
glaring things is they all play defense defense.

Speaker 3 (01:11:51):
She doesn't.

Speaker 2 (01:11:52):
She stands. She's from the logo and that she does.
That's high flying excitement. But it's not going to and
maybe that's what people I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:12:01):
I don't, but it does good points on the Yeah,
it gives points on.

Speaker 2 (01:12:04):
The board and it gets people excited and it's it's
part of a great show. But you you can't play
four on five all the time and win, Chad.

Speaker 3 (01:12:12):
Now that's very true. You can't.

Speaker 5 (01:12:13):
You can't.

Speaker 3 (01:12:14):
Now, a number of their games are going to be
televised too.

Speaker 2 (01:12:16):
I think every single every one of them broadcasting forty four.
I think they played forty four games in the league,
and every single one is going to be broadcast in
one way, shape or form.

Speaker 3 (01:12:27):
Radio here, Radio, yeah, radio, Yeah, we've got some of
their games on some of one of our sister stations radio,
maybe two of them, I know one of them for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:12:38):
Indeed, indeed, so there's that. But yeah, DJ Geno said, yes,
So I wanted to let you know he hasn't he
hasn't backtracked at all. Right, that's what That's what's going
to happen. And from what I understand from Gino, ticket
sales are going pretty good. But they're still available, so good, and.

Speaker 3 (01:12:59):
They're still talking. Still we're still time thirty first, still
some more time before that gets here.

Speaker 13 (01:13:04):
Eric.

Speaker 2 (01:13:04):
At the risk of beating a dead horse, bum bum boom. Yesterday,
I'm driving home, trying to drive home, get to Illinois.
All of a sudden, my tire pressure light comes on.

Speaker 3 (01:13:18):
Oh yeah, you know, I wondered if that was you
I'm parked next to you. Then you've got a donut.

Speaker 2 (01:13:25):
I got a donut on there.

Speaker 3 (01:13:27):
What happened?

Speaker 2 (01:13:28):
I don't know. I think the guy from Triple A
because I made it all, you know, I felt it.
And I'm like, oh my goodness, because I was heading
north and so I just pulled over at the service
station the circle K up there at sixteenth in Illinois,
because that's less than a mile from here, right right,
it is less than well sixteenths of a mile exact
exactly if you go from tenth to sixteenth. But anyway,

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I pulled over and I'm like, really, because you know,
with potholes, you can either hit. From what I've found
with my potholes, it's either the inside or the outside
scene that takes your tire out. And he couldn't find
anything on the inside or outside. He said, but right
there in the middle, Uh, there's your there's your gash

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and yeah, and I'm like serious, So this is a
fifth tire in a little more than a year and
a little more fifth tired pothole. Because he said, he said,
it's caused me. I'm he said, I'm just about He
basically he didn't guarantee that it was a pothole, and
I said, I tried to do my best to get

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around him to whatever. But once in a while one
will grab me, you know, get me at night or
in water or you know. Even so he thinks that's
what it was, because he said, you can't just you
know that, a gash like that. You're not going to
just pick that, he said. Usually you can pick up
a nail or whatever. He said, but that's a gash,

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which means something in the middle, in the middle of
in the middle.

Speaker 3 (01:15:01):
So I have a suggestion, at least when you leave.
Usually when I leave, I'll take Meridian. No potholes there. Well, Illinois,
You've got potholes and some other interesting things there. Meridian
Street out of here. This is pretty good.

Speaker 2 (01:15:19):
I'm wondering if I didn't pick it up, because I
mean literally, I was trying to navigate Roadaba Road where
New Augusta North and South. Yes, those schools. That was
one of my many stops on election day on Tuesday,
one of my many stops and Roada Ball from sixty
second Street North to seventy first Street. One maybe a

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thousand potholes.

Speaker 5 (01:15:42):
I believe it.

Speaker 2 (01:15:43):
I believe that I'm not exaggerating. They are all over
the place. And how the buses get in and out
of there without tearing up their tires, I don't know.
But I was going as slowly as I could, and
I was going around, but I try to go around
one and I'd accidentally hit another one, and it was said,
this place is awful, and I know it's been reported,

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I'll report it again. But that was one of my
many places that I was meddling. And that too was
one of the areas where there was no parking. There
was just so many people there voting there was no
place to park. And of course I went further south.
I went down south, I went to a church down there,
and then went to I went east and some other places.

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But I don't know. Maybe it was a slowly because
nothing was We couldn't hear any air or anything.

Speaker 3 (01:16:32):
But maybe you had one of the potholes up there
on Rotabah and it didn't immediately cause damage, just spit
some damage, and then hit another one down here and
then there it is.

Speaker 2 (01:16:45):
That's the only thing I can think of, because I
hadn't that that that was navigating like navigating landmines.

Speaker 3 (01:16:52):
I've seen that before. I've experienced that on different roads,
but I never the interstate, believe it or.

Speaker 2 (01:16:58):
Not, I've never I've seen one particular stretch that long
with that many potholes with kids, you know, because you
got gentlemen exactly, and then you got your middle school,
and so you've got buses to stagger their routes that
are going NonStop, no stuck. And I know it's heavy
use because they.

Speaker 3 (01:17:15):
Got buses right exactly exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:17:17):
They got buses going.

Speaker 3 (01:17:18):
Back, so they've never repaved it.

Speaker 2 (01:17:22):
I think they strip patched a bridge type area close
to seventy first Street two or three years ago, but
it's tore up now too.

Speaker 3 (01:17:31):
They need to just do the whole. They need to
just go all the way down to.

Speaker 2 (01:17:35):
The entire resurface the entire area.

Speaker 14 (01:17:39):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:17:39):
I will say there are some areas that have been
strip patched. I think James mentioned them too because he
had seen them that look really good.

Speaker 3 (01:17:48):
Yeah, there's something that I've driven.

Speaker 2 (01:17:49):
On some out of east, like I said, some north.
I haven't been too too far south, but some of
the places are looking cleaned up. But that's horrendous.

Speaker 3 (01:17:58):
That is. I'll tell you one place they could do
some widening and repair Keystone between thirty fourth and thirty eighth. Uh,
that's that stretch of roadway is so it's four lanes,
but it's so narrow you hopefully don't get hit because
it's just narrow. Now they've done some patching Keystone between

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thirty fourth and thirty eighth. Thirty fourth and thirty thirty seventh. Pretty,
that's pretty That's the most narrow section that I can
think of on Keystone. The good food there, but that
road is just it's it's it's too tight for you know,
to have four Maybe should make it's just a single
lane in that area.

Speaker 2 (01:18:38):
Popeyes is right just north of the just north of
there exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:18:41):
Once you get across that, it's it's better. But right
in that section south of there, yeah, that's further down. Yeah,
they could redo that area.

Speaker 2 (01:18:50):
I gotta go over that way and see. But again,
you know, I I am becoming as weary as you will.
Callers have been weary because you can report and report
and report, but you know, it's it's just a hardship
on people. Now, Luckily, I'm almost positive and from the
what the tire tech told me, a triple A who

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put the doughnut on my car. He said, ma'am, that
is totally repair reparable, repairable. And so he said, this
looks like a new tire and I said, yeah, it's
a brand new tire. Of course it's a new tire.
And he said, oh. He said, I can tell you
what date it was manufactured and put on the market
and everything. Said, because it's right here on the sidewalk.
And he told me the date and everything, and I said, yes.

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I said, all of my tires are brand new. And
he said, oh wow. But he said you can take
it and make it. They should be able to plug
it or repair it or what have you. So as
soon as I have time, I will get that. And
so I feel a little better because I don't have
to totally replace. I'm not out well, my tires would
be under warranty. You'd be out about two hundred bucks

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for a tire. But I'm not out of money for
a tire, just maybe twenty five or thirty bucks for
a tire repair, depending on what it costs. Now, I
remember when pluging a tire used to be five dollars.
But I know for a fact nobody's gonna plug a
tire for five dollars.

Speaker 7 (01:20:09):
Not now.

Speaker 2 (01:20:10):
Yeah. Probably, Like I said, around twenty five or three.
I don't care as long as it's not in the
two hundred dollars range where you have to replace.

Speaker 3 (01:20:16):
One Oh wow, yeah one tire.

Speaker 2 (01:20:19):
Yeah, one tire. Well, isn't that about the average?

Speaker 3 (01:20:22):
That's about Yeah, if you're going to buy it, yeah, yeah,
buy a tire. Yeah, that's about.

Speaker 2 (01:20:26):
And that's what every because they won't the tire itself,
and then they have to balance it, yeah, balance, which
is a cost, and then they have to do something else,
which isposale and disposal fee exactly. And so by the
time you do all kinds of things, it gets up there.
I mean, if you get a tire for on sale
for one hundred bucks or one hundred and ten bucks,
it's still going to cost you probably about one hundred

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and forty hundred and fifty.

Speaker 3 (01:20:49):
Then they say, you certainly need to match the tires
you have. You don't have different brands, No, No.

Speaker 2 (01:20:55):
You got to match them.

Speaker 3 (01:20:56):
Better match them.

Speaker 2 (01:20:58):
Virginia, go ahead. How are you?

Speaker 1 (01:21:00):
Oh?

Speaker 15 (01:21:00):
I'm fine. How are you glad to hear you on
the radio today today? Okay, I was just telling the
person that answered the phone that I'm on my way
to books. So I don't have a long time. I
was driving at right there at the corner of fortieth
in Boulevard, driving towards our family home.

Speaker 2 (01:21:23):
For zero yes, okay, okay, oh nice area, yeah.

Speaker 13 (01:21:28):
Thank you.

Speaker 15 (01:21:30):
Grew up in this area all our lives.

Speaker 14 (01:21:33):
Anyway, dude, well, I'm gonna tell you a secret.

Speaker 15 (01:21:37):
At the end by ante, I got to hit my
other on I'm sorry, okay, So that so okay.

Speaker 14 (01:21:47):
So I'm going through the intersection and I.

Speaker 15 (01:21:51):
Have to make a a there's a bunch of workers
out there directing traffic, and.

Speaker 13 (01:21:57):
So I need to go north on Boulevard right so.

Speaker 15 (01:22:02):
And and it was a mixed group of workers and everything,
but I had I got stopped, and I'm adjacent to
a big white truck and they got you know, the
whole arm ladder and everything up there, and they're working
on I don't know, maybe they're putting in the traffic light.
I don't even know what they were doing up there, actually,
because I was so distracted by this truck that.

Speaker 14 (01:22:22):
Was next to me, and so I wrote that my
wasn't and I asked the young man, what where? Why
is this truck here? And he's like, what do you mean,
I said, where are you? What do you got? What
are you guys working for? He goes, AE asked, and
I said, well that truck. That truck says that it
is from taton Nell, Tennessee.

Speaker 7 (01:22:43):
And so I took pictures.

Speaker 14 (01:22:44):
I got pictures that got evidence, he said.

Speaker 13 (01:22:47):
And so I asked him, I said, well, where are
you from? He said, I'm from here. He said, wait
a minute, he said, I'm just here to direct traffic.
And I said that's fine, and you know that's that's
not the issue. And and he you know, they smile
on that me. The young people standing out there.

Speaker 14 (01:23:03):
And they're like started telling me, I need to get
out the way.

Speaker 15 (01:23:06):
Because I'm gonna have an accident with my car.

Speaker 4 (01:23:08):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 14 (01:23:09):
It's just the whole thing.

Speaker 15 (01:23:11):
But I was actually stopped, so I wasn't causing any
I kept checking there was nobody coming behind me.

Speaker 14 (01:23:18):
But the point is, you know, I had to joke.

Speaker 15 (01:23:21):
You know, you guys are young. You need to open
up your brain and start looking around. You need to
open your eyes and start watching. And because who would
have thought that Ae s was sub.

Speaker 14 (01:23:34):
Tracking a whole unit, a whole truck with ladder and everything.
A wait, I got to have it ins on my
phone right here from Jack the Tennessee. This sub contract
a s ub self contracting.

Speaker 4 (01:23:52):
At the Tennessee.

Speaker 15 (01:23:53):
Some were not right about that, And I know, you
guys know a whole lot more about politics than I do,
whatever know, and so maybe it's not an issue.

Speaker 12 (01:24:03):
Maybe it is.

Speaker 15 (01:24:04):
I'm not sure, but I'm reporting.

Speaker 2 (01:24:06):
All right, well, thank you, thank you for joining. Okay,
thank you. I you know, as a rule, I don't
think it's unusual for power companies to subcontract with other
power companies, or say, I I don't think it's unusual,
but we can certainly look into it and ask around Virginia.
Thank you. That's that's curious. I know that when they're

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whenever there's a disaster or shortage of manpower or shortage
of just equipment, uh and the like, that power companies
do cooperate with each other and and send trucks a
certain way or wherever the But I I don't know
how that works. But I'm going to see if I

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can find out how that works. But uh, yeah, let's
go ahead and take a quick break right here, and
we'll be back with more community connection, right after this, let's.

Speaker 1 (01:25:10):
Get back to the conversation. It's Community Connection with Tina Cosby,
brought to you by Child Advocates, a champion for justice,
opportunity and well being for children on Praise Am thirteen
ten ninety five point one FM.

Speaker 2 (01:25:25):
And we're back with Community Connection and voila. Just like that,
we have a caller that answers the last callers questioner
that has an answer to the last collars. So let's
go to Dwayne. Dwayne, go ahead, do you have an answer?

Speaker 4 (01:25:37):
Yeah, how you doing? I'm gonna let church. So I
deal with a lot of AS and all that.

Speaker 16 (01:25:41):
So well, I was told a total while back they
sub contract and have contracts with the Tack of dou
Tennessee Local to help provide with the overhaul of the
workload that AES has. And they also out, you know,
changing out the old pole that are rotted or you know,

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aged out. And that's when you see them putting down
new poles, new connection hubs and all the protection for
the new power lines. You know, when they don't do
it do the service and maintenance. So that kind of
helps because you know AS does.

Speaker 4 (01:26:13):
Have the full workload on a lot of it.

Speaker 16 (01:26:16):
So they sub it out to another contract, Okay, the
Chattenoogle Local, And that's why you see a lot of
the white Chatto Chattenoogle Local Tennessee trucks around through AES Okay,
and that's what they're doing.

Speaker 2 (01:26:29):
All right. Well, thank you, Duane, and I appreciate that.
Thanks for the clarity.

Speaker 13 (01:26:33):
I was.

Speaker 2 (01:26:33):
I was poking around in that area, and uh, it
was fairly close.

Speaker 3 (01:26:37):
But I've seen that. I've seen some of the new
polls going into.

Speaker 2 (01:26:40):
Yeah, I didn't know about the new Actually, my grandson
saw one when he said, look at that tree. That's
a big old tree. I said, I think that's a
power pole. So but yeah, so when they're doing projects,
even emergency projects or non emergency projects, it's a it's
a manpower equipment thing and they do subcontract out. So
thank you for making that clear. All right. So another

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person here to make it clear for us all is
none other than Live from the Indianapolis Recorders Sports Page
sports writer Danny Bridges. Hey, Danny, ah.

Speaker 12 (01:27:20):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (01:27:23):
I didn't know that. I get you know, I shouldn't
have brushed off that big tree thing because there are
new power poles going up.

Speaker 3 (01:27:29):
There are going up. Those things are expensive too.

Speaker 2 (01:27:32):
They're huge and expensive.

Speaker 10 (01:27:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:27:34):
Friend that used to work for Duke Energy, he said,
they are. Those wooden poles are expensive, more expensive than
you would think.

Speaker 2 (01:27:41):
I thought most of the power was going underground.

Speaker 3 (01:27:44):
In some places, some subdivisions, it is, but eventually it's
still above ground.

Speaker 2 (01:27:49):
Some of them have to they have no choice, that's true.
So they have to go. They rocket old school. That's
speaking of old school. Danny Bridges. Danny Bridges, how are you.

Speaker 4 (01:27:58):
Are we going to talk about your light bill or
we're going to talk about sports? What are we going
to do here?

Speaker 2 (01:28:03):
No, we haven't talked about the bill yet, and I
don't want to go there. But let's go. Let's do sports.

Speaker 3 (01:28:07):
Yeah, there you go, sports?

Speaker 2 (01:28:08):
Sports?

Speaker 1 (01:28:09):
Is it?

Speaker 2 (01:28:09):
Yes? We want to talk sports?

Speaker 4 (01:28:10):
There we go.

Speaker 2 (01:28:12):
What's going on?

Speaker 4 (01:28:13):
Well, there's a lot going on, but really we don't
know anything yet.

Speaker 15 (01:28:17):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:28:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:28:19):
The NBA Draft is this weekend and the Pacers could
do well, they could do without, depending upon the bouncing
of a lottery ping pong ball. If if they're if
they pick between one and four, they get to keep
the pick, but if it's five or greater, that pick

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goes to the Los Angeles Clippers at by virtue of
previous trade consideration, so they're hoping to fall between one
and four. That will get them a player that should
be able to help them in the coming season, a
young player. So there's no guarantees about that, but uh,

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if you can get a young player with the bright future,
you certainly want to take the opportunity to do that.
And I'm uh, I'm optimistic that they can go one
for four. On the other hand, you look at the
history of this franchise, They've had a lot of unfortunate
circumstances occur. So I guess we'll just have to wait
and see. But it just boils down to where that

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pick falls at and who gets to drafting the next multimillionaire.

Speaker 2 (01:29:28):
Okay, they're all millionaires multi. I don't know too many
that aren't multi. Even if it's to two million, that's
a multi millionaire, so right right for them. Hey, I
just saw just got to push alert that the Colts
released Kenny Moore the second.

Speaker 4 (01:29:44):
Yeah, that's that's Uh. He wasn't happy.

Speaker 3 (01:29:50):
Down down a while back and.

Speaker 4 (01:29:52):
Talked about his future here. Uh, they weren't looking to
extend him. He wanted an extension, but he certainly wanted
to talk to him about playing time, so that's the
right move for both parties. He's been a good citizen off.

Speaker 2 (01:30:04):
The absolutely really good in the community.

Speaker 4 (01:30:08):
Yeah, but the reality is he's on the downward ark
of his career, and like any NFL player, you become
expendable with that occurs, so they'll look to uh. I
think if he wants to continue to play, he'll find
someone who will give him the opportunity. He's going to
have to change the zip code, obviously, but I do

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believe that there's probably somebody out there that says, hey,
we think we can use you for a year or two.
You've got a little bit left in the tank, and
that's generally what happens. But I would be surprised if
he's not on an NFL roster this fall. I really would.

Speaker 2 (01:30:40):
So it wasn't a money thing then, I think it's.

Speaker 4 (01:30:44):
Well, anytime you ask for an extension and they're not interested,
that's the money thing.

Speaker 2 (01:30:48):
Oh okay, okay.

Speaker 4 (01:30:50):
I think I don't think that was the only reason
he He played well at times last year, There's no
question about it. But as they look to turn the
page and get a little bit younger at certain positions.
I think it's just that easy. He was expinnable by
that virtue, So good luck to him. He's done some
really good things on and off the field. As I said,

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I do believe he will be a on someone's NFL
rockster this this fall, and wouldn't be surprised if the
Tennessee Titans take a look at that. M m M.

Speaker 2 (01:31:24):
Speaking of the Titans, any any thoughts are weighing in
on this Mike Rabel? I mean, how much longer the
Patriots are gonna hold on to him? For those not familiar,
there is a huge scandal uh going on about the
Patriots head coach Mike Brabel, who used to be in Tennessee. UH,
used to be a Patriot Wow. And UH sports reporter

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who's already resigned her position. Wow.

Speaker 4 (01:31:50):
I think I think the if you if you look
at this thing objectively, hmm. I have I have no
ties to no, none of us do to the coach
or Diana Roussini as well, who she has been some
solid reporting in his career. I think the people that
have to be involved and talked with are the injured parties,

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which would be the spouses allegedly they have had inappropriate relationships.
I say allegedly because no one knows the full extent
of it. I don't believe she would have resigned if
there wasn't some substance to it. There's been some unflattering
photos of them together publicly, certainly cross the line from
a journalistic standpoint, but more importantly, may have compromise her

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marriage vows, which is the real issue here.

Speaker 2 (01:32:46):
Well, they both can?

Speaker 7 (01:32:48):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:32:48):
Can can both parties reconcile with their respective spouses? Can
they put their lives back together? And can they go
forward and be good parents for their children? Those are
the important things here. I think the words you scandal
is is popular and it's been printed that way, but
in reality, these are two individuals who have misbehaved and

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it's a private matter.

Speaker 2 (01:33:12):
Well, but Danny, here here's my question though, And my
question is I understand all of that, and that is true,
but as an organization, how much longer do you think
the Patriots are going to put up with this distraction?

Speaker 4 (01:33:26):
That is their coach. He's going to be their coach
this year, and it's not going to think so prop absolutely.

Speaker 2 (01:33:32):
Okay, Well, well, I don't seem to I don't. I
don't feel that, and it's also setting an example for
other NFL teams and maybe professional sports franchises in general,
is to what you're you know, what are you Let's.

Speaker 4 (01:33:44):
Take a look at this. Let's just let's fill this
BacT just a little bit. When we talk about setting examples,
look at some of the player behavior in the NFL.
All that does not give him a carte blanche uh
situation to do go outside of his use. There's a
lot of guys in the NFL who have committed much
more egregious acts than Mike Grabel. So that's why he's

(01:34:08):
going to be okay. Number two. The reason he's gonna
be okay his owner is enamored with him, and we'll
support him. They will be fine. And fac I'll go
ahead and say this. If they come out and win
several foot game football games in a row, that's fall.
No one's even gonna talk about it anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:34:25):
It's just that's just okay. I just wonder how big
that distraction is going to get because more and more
things keep coming up, and uh, you know, what is
the tolerance level from the standpoint of an organization. Uh,
you know, again, everything you've said that's all personal and private.
Whatever I'm talking about from a sporting perspective and from
a professional sporting.

Speaker 4 (01:34:46):
Here's the response to that. The Patriots will sell out
all their home games. That will be the toe favorite
to win the Eastern Division. They have a good quarterback
coming back. They were in the Super Bowl last.

Speaker 2 (01:35:00):
So they're gonna stick with him. That's that's what you're saying.

Speaker 4 (01:35:02):
Well, that's where the focus is, and I don't he
hasn't He hasn't committed a crime. He's committed a very
serious personal transgression. I don't think he's harmed any one
in the organization. He's harmed himself. He's harmed his marriage.
Those things will have to play themselves out.

Speaker 2 (01:35:19):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (01:35:20):
I have no doubt that Mike Rabel will be the
coach of the New England Patriots on opening Day.

Speaker 2 (01:35:25):
Okay. So just just looking for a professional franchise tolerance,
and that's all I mean. From distractions, that's all.

Speaker 4 (01:35:30):
He'll be plenty. There'll be plenty of it, trust me.

Speaker 2 (01:35:33):
Okay, Okay, onto onto the next area that that that
that was just I was just curious what your thoughts
were on there.

Speaker 4 (01:35:40):
Oh, that's a legitimate question because if it's it's constanting
a twenty four seven news cycle. But I think the uh,
the bigger picture is how are we doing on the field.
Are we winning games? Those types of things. He starts losing,
that'll be the scrutiny, not so much as personal life.
That's just my take.

Speaker 2 (01:35:58):
Okay, okay, So you say Pacers NBA Draft, is this
we How many picks do the Pacers have.

Speaker 4 (01:36:06):
They'll have one in the first round if it falls
the right way for them in terms of how they've
dealt previously, So it's either going to be a really
good day or not so good day for them in
terms of if they if their pick is one through
four or determine the lottery, then they'll you know, we'll
have a chance to get one out of four good players.
But after that it drops off dramatically. And I think

(01:36:28):
their biggest look at this coming seasons who can we
get healthy and how can we reignite what we once
had a year ago? And I do believe that the
draft always helps. Free agency helps as well. I don't
think they're done moving with their roster just yet. With

(01:36:50):
the draft. I think you'll see something happen between now
and training camp certainly something before opening day that'll make
the roster look a little bit different.

Speaker 2 (01:37:01):
NBA Playoffs, any surprises there.

Speaker 4 (01:37:04):
No, it's I think it'll go to form. I'm surprised
the Knicks are scoring as many points as they are.
On the other hand, I look at who they're playing defensively,
so that has a lot to say about that. But
healthy this time of year is the key thing in
the playoffs. I think Oklahoma City, even without Williams, is
still a team to beat, not just in the West,

(01:37:24):
but in the league. I think the Knicks playing well,
and you know, the seventy six ers had played well
enough to get to the you know, the second round.
The choice is making it interesting as well. I'd really
be surprised, though, when it's all said and done in June,
if Oklahoma City isn't a repeat champion.

Speaker 2 (01:37:44):
You mean l A and Lebron aren't gonna have a
chance to that. You don't think they have a chance
to knock them off. I think, okay, okay.

Speaker 4 (01:37:54):
There's season is going to be over here by the
end of May.

Speaker 2 (01:37:56):
I think, okay, well, Lebron come back.

Speaker 4 (01:37:59):
I'm wrong, Yeah, I'm wrong, because I like watching him play.
I really really do. And uh, you know, he's only
got so many games left, and so I think watching
him is important in terms of, you know, being able
to watch a superb athlete play at a high level
as much as possible. But I'm in awe of him,
his physicality, what he's done to keep himself in shape.

(01:38:20):
I do believe he's going to play one more year.
I'm not sure where that's going to be. I don't
think the Lakers are going to give him another fifty
million dollars to stick around. Just don't see the financial
sense in that. But uh, where he goes, where he
ends up, what he plays for, and that's key. If
he's wanting to take a pretty good pay cat. The
Lakers would like to have him back, but I just

(01:38:41):
don't know if that's going to work at this point
in his career for either side in terms of the finances.

Speaker 3 (01:38:47):
Wow, can Land As I was, I was thinking that
it was my thought anything?

Speaker 2 (01:38:56):
Are you thinking that?

Speaker 4 (01:38:56):
I was thinking that, Yeah, it would be it would
be Cleveland, I would or Los Angeles wanted to. And
I do believe this will be the final year of
his deal for his career. So get out and see
him play when he comes in Annapolis next year, no
matter who he's playing for, se.

Speaker 2 (01:39:14):
NBW, NBA season starts tomorrow.

Speaker 4 (01:39:18):
You know, I'm just I'm going to make one quick
statement about that. Until this time, I.

Speaker 2 (01:39:25):
Know, until they sell out, no no, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 4 (01:39:30):
No, no, no, not at all. Until they learn to
defend without falling and rebound the basketball, there's nothing to
talk about as far as the Fever or the Pacers
right now. There's just nothing. And I don't know. I
don't know why you find that humorous, because I'm just
a basketball purist. Rebound the basketball, defend without fouling. Then

(01:39:54):
you'll win some games. Then we'll have something to talk about.
And I really don't care about the fashion show from
the bus to the locker room. Now that matters to
me either. Do it on the basketball floor. There's some
awfully challenged young ladies on that team. We'll see what happens.
They've got a lot of guards, which I think is
a very interesting composition of their roster. But time will tell.

(01:40:17):
But I just need somebody to defend without salley and
rebound the basketball and then we got something to talk about.

Speaker 2 (01:40:24):
I think they Fever did fill that that void Danny
very well with their pick in the draft. The WNBA
draft Raven Johnson out of South Carolina. She is an
elite defender and has shown that beautifully in both the
preseason games. I think one game she had like five steals.
I don't know how many assists, and I don't know

(01:40:46):
how many rebounds.

Speaker 4 (01:40:47):
But well, they've only had one game. You said, senior,
they played an exhibition game against a feigner.

Speaker 2 (01:40:54):
Yeah, well foreign team man.

Speaker 4 (01:40:55):
Yeah, an exhibition game, and they're all sligted. That way,
you bring them in and you guarantee a win for
the home crowd. All I'm saying is this, they need
an enforcer on the backboard. They don't have one. Now,
can somebody step up? Can they acquire one?

Speaker 2 (01:41:12):
Oh you're talking about.

Speaker 4 (01:41:15):
They need a rebounder goring to rebound, rebound.

Speaker 2 (01:41:18):
Okay, that's good. That's good. That's that.

Speaker 4 (01:41:21):
And the fact that they have defensive lapses often, well.

Speaker 2 (01:41:26):
You're gonna have defensive lapses when you be in all
fairness to to Caitlyn Clark, she doesn't ergan. She does
not play much good defense, Kate, So that's not gonna work.

Speaker 4 (01:41:37):
Don't single her out. There's a lot of defensive deficiencies
on that team. She's certainly one of them. I will
go along with that. They're not a good defensive team.
They don't rebound the basketball well, and they can't to
this point defend without fallI they correct all that, They've
got a chance to make a deep run in the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (01:41:56):
Yeah, like last year, without Caitlin uh and a whole
hotchpotch of different players, they were one overtime period away
from going to the WNBA Finals so excellently went away
and as an extremely good coaching job, and so you
don't get that far unless you're doing something. So maybe
they can keep their winning ways going.

Speaker 4 (01:42:17):
Any of that matters this year, because well, I don't.
I just I think you guys are more optimistic about
the Fever and the Pacers than I am. I'm just
not convinced that those deficiencies are things that can just
be ironed out when the season starts. I'd love to
be wrong, because again, there's a lot of talent on
that team, there's a lot of people behind them, there's

(01:42:38):
a lot of people paying their harder and money to
watch those games in person. So I want them to
do well. Just give something back to the community that
has really been supporting them for somewhat the years. Now.

Speaker 2 (01:42:49):
Yeah, I'd like to see the pacers do I Unfortunately
I too agree. I agree with you regarding the pacers.
I think they might be yet another year away, if
not longer from whatever. So what about the Speedway. How
many days are we to the race? How many days
to the race?

Speaker 4 (01:43:04):
Well, they'll start racing Saturday with the Grand Prix race
out there people, that's right, people forget to forget about that.
That's a bargain you can go to. You can go
to practice after tomorrow for the Grand Prix for thirty
five dollars an adult and one child up to the
age of fifteen get in. That's still a bargain. The
Grand Prix is a tune up of sorts. I mean, look,

(01:43:27):
it's a totally different course, the road course versus the oval,
and a lot of people don't pay a lot of
attention to the road course. Event I've seen some really
good racing on the road course. So as an enthusiast,
the purist, I'm looking forward to being out there the
next two days for that. But two weeks from this
Sunday we'll be in Annapolis five hundreds, and it's going

(01:43:48):
to be the I think a lot of the same
kind of thing. I mean, I think the big dogs
will bark in terms of qualifying, and then from there
anything could happen in the race, they say, I like
the way about lap one seventy to see who's sticking around,
and then from there maybe things get interesting. But I
do believe the race will be televised again. I do

(01:44:08):
believe they're going to announce it still out soon, so
that will be good for those who aren't able to
for whatever reason, to attend the race on the twenty
fourth of May. But things are picking up, you know,
there's a lot of activity downtown. There's a lot of
activity surrounding the race. So that's good for Indianapolis. But

(01:44:28):
you know, it's not the month of May anymore. It's
more like two weeks. But it's still an interesting event.
It's still the biggest race in the world, and I
think sometimes we take that for granted locally, but not
everybody has the same enthusiasm for racing that I do.

Speaker 2 (01:44:45):
So well, that's okay. It seems like it's earlier this year,
doesn't it. It seems like it's way early.

Speaker 4 (01:44:51):
It is, yeah, because the following week will be May
thirty first. It is the way the calendar is felling.
Always one of the used to be on my birthday,
which is May third. It'll be the day before this year.
Last year it was two days before. But I did
have the corboration day to go out there and sit around,

(01:45:12):
and everyone says happy Bertie. I say, hey, you guys
thing to eat for free. I mean, but like prolistically,
realistically it's still a marquee event where fortunately it is,
and I think that I think you guys should get
out there this next week at least to a day

(01:45:32):
of practice. I'll even buy your lunch.

Speaker 5 (01:45:35):
We appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (01:45:35):
We'd have to get off the air, though, but something
but well, we'll figure out a way. Maybe we'll know
on the road.

Speaker 4 (01:45:43):
That's what you gotta do. Take a remote broadcast, you could.
You could draw all listeners out there, give away fabulous prizes.
You can have me on the air. Everything would be.

Speaker 2 (01:45:50):
Perfect, okay, motion Yeah, the weather too. Yeah, indeed, indeed, hey,
I don't know they have a race forecast just yet.

Speaker 5 (01:46:00):
I don't think so.

Speaker 3 (01:46:00):
I'm not seen one.

Speaker 2 (01:46:01):
Yeah, hopefully by the time the race gets here, all
this ugly stuff will be out of the way and
it'll be a beautiful day.

Speaker 4 (01:46:07):
Race day is going to be about seventy two degrees
with no wind and no humidity. Okay, there you have it.

Speaker 5 (01:46:12):
Okay, we heard it here first.

Speaker 2 (01:46:14):
Thank you, Danny, thank you, thank you.

Speaker 4 (01:46:16):
I'm always I'm always happy to be a better ologist.

Speaker 2 (01:46:19):
Okay, all right, thanks Danny. We'll talk to you again soon.
That's all the time we have for right now. As always,
thank you for listening. Our website is Praiseindy dot com.
Williemore Junior on the radio is up next. Please continue
to be safe, be well, and by all means please
stay informed. For everyone here, I'm Tina Cosby and this
is Community Connection.

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