October 26, 2025 • 42 mins
David and Bill discuss:
- World Series
- Possible MLB "lock out" - Salary Cap and Salary Floor
- His story with the Yankees....friend of George Steinbrenner
- His role with PAO - Pro Athletes Outreach
- And his faith journey!
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
Hi everyone, I'm David Chadwick and this is News Talk eleven,
ten ninety nine and three WBT. Welcome to the show.
If you don't know, this is a faith and values
program that I've been doing now for over twenty five
years here on WBT. It's a pleasure doing the show.
Thank you for listening on a weekly basis. Many thanks
to my friends at Perry's Fine Jewelry for your sponsorship
of the show. Without you, I could not do this
(00:30):
on a weekly basis. I'm very grateful for your sponsorship. Well,
I have a show today that I've really been looking
forward to. I have in studio with me, not only
my producer at Billique has an open mic because I
know this show will be of great interest to him.
He might want to interject a question here or there.
But my guest is Bill Rose. Bill's become a friend
over the last couple of years. Bill is a partial
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owner of the New York Yankees. He is originally from
New York and that is his home ground and I
wanted to have him on the show partly because here
we are the world series has begun. We tape this
show on Thursday, so by the time you listen to it,
we will know if the Dodgers or the Toronto Blue
Jays are up two to oh or it's one in one.
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So anyway, we're going to record this show with that knowledge.
But also I want to get Bill's input on the
World Series, what he thinks about that, some baseball questions
for those of us who still love the game of baseball,
realizing that with Toronto and also with Otani with the Dodgers,
there's a huge audience now watching in Canada and Japan
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and throughout the world, and I just wanted to get
Bill's insights on a lot of different information. He's a
sports agent and I appreciate Bill Rose. Thank you for
being on the show with me today.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
A pleasure to be here.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
David, Well, let's talk about the World Series. When we
talked a couple of weeks ago, I said, okay, Bill,
your projection and you predicted actually Toronto and La correct.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
I did rooting for the other two sides, but it
was hard to go against at those clubs.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Yeah, and and the Dodgers are probably the favorites. Don't
you think.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Dodgers are definitely the favorites. They're starting pitching staff makes
them a distinctive favorite that their their starting staff is
is really tough.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Yeah, And how do you win if you can't score
more than one or two runs? And now I was
just going to say that you've got to score runs
to win the games. And if the Dodgers pitching staff
is that strong, how in the world do you have
any hope of winning?
Speaker 4 (02:25):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Pitching always good pitching always stops good hitting, especially, And
I mean when you when you get to this point,
you're not facing number threes and fours and fives of
mediocre teams. You're facing the best of the best.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Yeah. Guerrero is pretty good player, though.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Isn't He's a great player. And you know he killed
the Yankees this year. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
So if there was ever a World Series where I'd
like to see both teams lose, this would be it.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Because Toronto eliminated your beloved Yankees.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Thank you very much, David.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
And Bill. You bought the Yankees into the Yankees back.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
When nineteen seventy six.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Wow, and you knew George Steinbrenner.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
I was introduced to George through a mutual friend. I
had been a Yankee fan, so I was six years old,
and so George and I got friendly and we would
go out to dinner five nights a week when he
was in New York. He was really my closest friend,
and it was just it was amazing. I mean, he'd
called me up in the middle of the night and say, Rose,
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would you make this trade or whatever? And or Rose
maybe at PJ. Clarks was a Hamburger place in New
York at like midnight, and you know when the owner
of the Yankees calls you up. I got up at
midnight when met him at PJ.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Clark's. But he offered me the job actually.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
Of managing their Fort Lauderdale team when I was twenty
three years old, or being the GM at Syracuse, which
is their Triple A team. But even then I knew
working for George was not going to be my best
long term health interests.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
A lot of people felt that, didn't say so I.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Turned it down, but some points came up and with
my dad we bought it and I seventy six.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Wow, And that's been an important part of your life
for all these years, your love for the Yankees and
for their involvement with you in so many different ways.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Yeah, it's been a huge part. It's been it's been
just it's such a blessing. And my wife, when we
first dated, she had never been to a baseball game
in her life, and the first year we went out,
she went to seventy out of the eighty.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
One Yankee home games with me. Wow, to which I say,
she wanted the ring, and to what she says, it worked.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Wife named Vicky. You guys live in Charlotte, partially some
other places as well. How many kids?
Speaker 2 (04:38):
We have two children and six grandchildren they're all here.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Well, my joke, I say all the time. If I'd
known grandparenting was so much fun, I would have skipped
parenting altogether.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
A question.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
I agree, Yeah. And Bill, you're a sports agent as well.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
I am I represent I mean right now, I'm actually
the only certified agent in the history of baseball that's
also a limited partner in a major league team. It
never happened before and it will never happen again. So
I've been grandfathered in. And our firm has represented a
lot of good players, from Josh Beckett and Lance Berkman
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and Josh Hamilton to now Oswella Cabrera. Alex call is
actually on the Dodgers. So there's been a good group
of guys.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Well, baseball has been a big part of my life.
I can remember going to the minor league Charlotte Hornets
games back in the nineteen fifties when they'd have people
like Harmon Killerbrew and Tony o Leva, I know, you know,
some of those great names of great players. And my
dad and I would sit in the same spot every time.
At the end of the sixth inning, we'd go get
a snow cone together. He'd get grape, I'd get orange.
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I remember it vividly, like it was yesterday. And that
just implanted a love for the game within me, I
guess partly because I got to share it with my dad.
And you just have loved the game since day one
as well, haven't you.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
I have.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
It's you know, when it's in your blood, it becomes
absolute passion. And to get to get to be able
to do for a job what your passion is, Tell
me that's not a blessing.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
You never work a day in your life, don't. And
you also had a huge sports bar in New York
City real quickly talk about that.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Yeah, I had a place called the Sporting Club in
Tribeca and it was six thousand square feet. I had
no clue what I was doing, but somehow it turned
out great.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Yeah, one of the biggest sports bars in New York City,
and you said to me one time it was probably
the most popular in the city at one point.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Well it was.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
It was also rated number one in the country by
USA Today in Time magazine.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Wow. My guest today, Bill Rose, fascinating person, partial owner
of the New York Yankees. Talk about the World Series
when we come back some and then also Bill, just
want to talk about your faith and your values and
also your involvement with Pro Athletes Outreach, which is a
Christian outreach to many pro athletes today, so that you
can talk some about your faith but also people you
know in sports who have a deep faith themselves. I'm
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David Chadwick. We will be right back.
Speaker 5 (08:24):
When life has got you going strong, then all of
a sudden things are wrong.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
We tend to stumble day to day. I wonder when
will be okay. There times when we have to just
push through and see the light.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
Ahead of you, and when we reach the finish side,
we will stand up being probably well.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
That voice is Parker Robinson, who's the worship leader at
the church. I pastor, how much of church? What a
wonderful gift God has given him? How everyone? I'm David
Chadwick and this is News Talk eleven, ten ninety nine
three WBT. Welcome back to the show. Special guest today
a good friend, Bill Rose. Bill is partial owner of
the New York Yankees. Bill is a sports agent. I'm
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married to VICKI two kids, six grandkids, lives partially here
in Charlotte, and I just wanted to have Bill on
the show today during World Series. Time to talk baseball
and what's going on. Bill. Great to have you on
the show.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Thanks, great to be here, David.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Baseball, I mean some people have thought it would die.
That has become too long and too boring. They've done
the pitch clock now shortened the games. To me, it
seems like baseball has never been healthier. What do you think?
Speaker 3 (09:44):
I agree, it's it's I think the revenue is incredible.
I mean, the Dodgers had over four million fans this year,
which is unbelievable. But then the four million fans to support.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
Their payroll has got for.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
You know, four million million dollars, so it's a lot
of money.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Yeah, well, Bill, you do talk about baseball, and a
lot of people still have passion for it, but it
looks like to me we're headed for a lockout, largely
because of the seeming disparity among the teams their willingness
to spend. I mean, some people are saying that the
lower revenue teams, like say the Pittsburgh Pirates or whomever,
they need to spend more in order to get better.
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But then other people say, well, the players that the
Dodgers have signed, their other teams refused to sign them,
so they went to the Dodgers who were willing to
pay for them. And then there's the other argument, Well,
the Dodgers have the payroll with the television, and the Yankees,
like you know, you're an owner there have this kind
of payroll from the television, radio, et cetera. What's the truth,
what's going on your assessment?
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Well, the real problem is with revenue sharing.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
I think they thought they would sort of even the
playing fields, and teams like the Yankees and the Dodgers
pay an absolute fortune revenue sharing and this money goes
to the small market teams. But the real problem is
most of these small market teams, the owners pocket the money.
They don't put it into players, player development, the things
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they need to get even with the upper echelon teams,
and so that's been a real issue and that's why
there's such a disparity.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Bill you have ed, do you have a question?
Speaker 5 (11:27):
No, I was just saying that is absolutely true. The
pirates twenty eight percent of the revenue they're getting, they're
not They're only spending it on salaries and player development.
And to your point, Dodgers and Yankees get to spend.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
A lot more.
Speaker 5 (11:39):
It's it's there needs to be a salary cap maybe
and a salary floor.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Yeah, what's the answer.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
There needs to be a salary floor.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
The players have been against a salary cap free market
forever and I'm not sure that's going to change. The owners,
I think, are pretty unified for the first time to
try to implement a salary cap, and I think we're
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heading for a lockout after the twenty sixth season.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Well, that voice is Bill Rose, partial owner of New
York Yankees, can give us insights into baseball. Let's talk
about lockout, Bill. I remember the one in the early nineties.
I'm a big Atlanta Braves fan, and they were just
getting good at that point and in the heart of
some of their success, and then suddenly there's a lockout.
And I had a number of my friends who said,
I'll never watch baseball again. They got so frustrated with
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people who are millionaires, multimillionaires who are not willing to
play because they want even more millions.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
Your thoughts, well, my thoughts are that, don't forget when
you're calling it a lockout, you're putting the onus on
the owners. All Right, it's not a strike. So there's
a difference, and.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
The owners are in control.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
The owners are Yeah, the owners are definitely in control.
They control the purse strings. But baseball is doing so
great it's just hard to wrap my head around the
fact that, uh, there's going to be a stoppage. You
would think they'd come to some sort of deal.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Bill.
Speaker 5 (13:11):
It works in the NBA, works in the NFL and NHL,
why not the MLB.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
Well, because those are socialistic sports. We we we are
capitalistic sports.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
Baseball is different. To make money, well, I mean it's
a lot of money. When when any think about the
Dodgers and their creativity with putting money they're going to
give to players way into the future, and they don't
have to deal with it right now? Is that an
answer you think for other teams to do the same thing.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
Yeah, But you know, I think, uh, what's going to
happen this year is going to be a real different
spin on free agency because teams knowing there's going to
be a lockout.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
You know and don't and not knowing.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
What the results going to be after the lockout are
going to be very hesitant to be given away two, three,
four hundred million dollar contracts.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
Per year because you don't know what's gonna happen after
this next season. I mean, I think, I don't know
if this is a good illustration or not, but the
Angels just signed Kurt Suzuki as their manager for one year,
and is that because of the potential lockout occurring?
Speaker 3 (14:20):
Most likely, I can't really look into what Ardi Moreno,
you know, was thinking when he signed him for a year.
I know they were interested in Albert Poolhols. He was
on the top of the list to be a manager,
So I'm not sure what the inner workings were there.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
So if there's a lockout and a stoppage of play,
what does that mean for the sport of baseball? Does
it recover? Do you think I mean, is it one
of those that the whole season could be canceled? Is
it a mid year kind of possibility? What do you
think right now?
Speaker 2 (14:52):
I think it's a whole year.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
I mean, I mean, I hate to say that, and
I hate I'm really hoping it's not true.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
But this is the worst I've seen it.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Oh, this is the worst.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
This is the worst I've seen it in the the the.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
Answer from the Players Association, you know, negotiation is not
just saying no, it's actually negotiating. And you go one
side saying no. One side's saying I want a salary cap,
and right now neither side seems to be budgeting.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
Wow. And then at that point that is the lockout
that continues on and on and on. But it's almost
like where we are with the federal government right now
with the lockout. I mean, there's just no one's willing
to budget on movement toward what's best for the people.
And it sounds like this almost the same thing.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
Yeah, Well, if you want to talk for me to
talk about the federal government lockout, that's a whole different show.
Speaker 5 (15:42):
I probably shouldn't have baited that hook Bill who's head
of the Players Union.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
These days, Tony Tony Clark.
Speaker 5 (15:49):
Then, so who speaks for the owners is it Manfred?
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Manfred is the commissioner, so so.
Speaker 5 (15:55):
The spokesperson, Yeah he is, and that what kind of
relationship do those two have?
Speaker 2 (15:59):
Not much?
Speaker 1 (16:01):
Not much?
Speaker 6 (16:01):
Yeah, the ownership, the the the head of the union
previously to this was a guy named Michael Wiener, brilliant,
brilliant lawyer.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
And before that you had Gene rs and Don Fear.
I mean, these were big time leaders of the union.
And I love Tony. Tony's a great guy, but we
got to start negotiating.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Yeah, well, I don't understand why you'd want to kill
the Golden Goose. I agree, It just doesn't make sense.
You've got this revenue producer that's going on, and everybody
seems to be profiting accordingly. Even if you are a
small market team, why in the world would you dare
even go close to a stoppage? Why would you not
in the off season, especially, come to an agreement so
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that it assures this game that a lot of people
love will continue.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
I think Actually, if you're a small market team, a
lockout hurts them more than anything because they're they're there.
Attendance is small to begin with. They can't afford to
lose five or ten percent of their attendance.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
But a team like the Yankees, of which you're a
partial owner, and the Dodgers, the big market teams can
afford to do it because they have so much revenue.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
If they can afford to do it for a period
of time, because the contracts don't get smaller. But you know,
so far, the history shows fans return.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (17:23):
Well, I tell you in Pittsburgh, if you hold the
owner accountable to spend the money on salaries, they will
cheer an applaud because sell the team. Sell the team
was in the stadium all year long.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
Yeah, I said, it's spin like that for a bunch
of teams.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Well, I remember my daddy was one day reading the
newspaper and you'd remember this name way back when Bill
Jake Gibbs signed one hundred thousand dollars contract with the Yankees,
and my dad just said, this is ridiculous. Somewhere baseball
has just got to have a ceiling for all this
money that's being spent. And now you're looking at, you know,
almost a billion dollar contracts, and it just is there
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in a place this will end and just real quickly.
We got to take a break in thirty seconds.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
But Candice end, well, it can end if the owners
got what they want during for the lockout. So that's
what they're trying to do. But you know, it's a
market driven sport and teams can afford it. They're going
to pay and they want to win.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
Bill Rose is my guest partial owner of the New
York Yankees. I'll talk to you just a second about
your prediction for the World Series. Then I want to
get into your involvement with Pro Athletes Outreach, which is
a Christian outreach to pro athletes and some of the
people that are involved with it. Your involvement and how
we can really have hope for a lot of these
guys that we watch and adulate really are good people,
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people of deep faith that we can say, hmm, I
want my child to be like him. I'm David Chadwick.
We will be right back.
Speaker 4 (19:10):
U you sit, You're going to Locke.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
If you walk to him, bam, you gonna walk.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Just to mention not his name.
Speaker 4 (21:16):
Name.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
Well, I can't explain it. All I know is there's
power in the name of Jesus, and he does answer
prayers when we pray in his name, we do walk
How everyone, I'm David Chadwick and this is News Talk eleven,
ten ninety nine three WBT. Welcome back to the show.
If you'd like to hear this program with my friend
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Bill Rose, a partial owner of the New York Yankees.
Insights into the Yankees and baseball, but more importantly, we're
getting into it in just a second about faith and
some of this involvement with Christian athletes. Go to WBT
dot com, scroll down to the weekend shows, look for
the David Chadwick Show and you can hear this program
in its entirety. Bill, great to have you on the show.
Thank you again for being here. Just real quickly, I
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mean again, we're two games into the World Series, all
right now? Your prediction? Who's gonna win it? How many games?
Take a stab?
Speaker 3 (22:08):
It's hard to bet against the Dodgers. I mean just
there again. Their pitching staff is just as good as
I've seen. I think the Dodgers win in either five
or six.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
Okay, Bill, a shift gears. Your faith is very real
to you. How did you come to know Jesus as
your Lord and savior?
Speaker 3 (22:27):
Well, both my wife and I are Jewish and the
only time I ever went to Temple was during the
World Series. My dad wanted to take me to a
Yankee World Series game. My mom said, can't go out
of school unless he goes to Temple. Was during Yam Kapoor.
So I went to Temple, went to the World Series game.
But that was really the extent. We were more culturally
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Jewish than than religiously. And when I got married, my
wife was also Jewish, but her dad actually had accepted Christ,
and I just thought it was all a fad, and.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
We were separated. We got separated for five and a
half years.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
And by the way, that's next week's program, Part two
with Bill and Vicki Rose. Bill's Vicky has written a
book about your separation, and then you're getting back together,
and she'll be with us next week.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
She will, and you'll enjoy here way more than me.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
Well that's true, yeah, yeah, no question.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
She's a lot cuter than I am too.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
So well I would say that too, anyway.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
Come on, So during the five and a half years separation,
real quick she came to Christ, and then I thought
it was a fad she was going through.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
And then.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
Then two and a half years later I came to
Christ we put our marriage back together.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
Well. And you have been involved as a sports agent
but also a partial owner of the New York Yankees
in what's called Pro Athletes Outreach. Would you talk about
what that organization is and your involvement in it.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
Yeah, PAO was started, I mean I think in like
nineteen ninety maybe in nineteen eighty something, and when I
was there, the president of PAO was Norm Evans, who
played for that undefeated Dolphin football team. And so it's
now the president's a guy named Steve Stenstrom. Steve was
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a quarterback at Stanford and played a little bit I
think for the Seahawks.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
I think that's right.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
And actually Steve still holds the all time passing yortage
leader at Stanford, over Elway and Plunkett and all those guys.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
Andrew Luck I think also, yeah, wow.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
So still number one. And it's a ministry of pro
players to pro players. There's a baseball conference and a
football conference, and now they've been reaching out to race
car drivers, hockey players, soccer. So it's really expanding. It's
not only expanding the US, PAO is now becoming international,
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with places in Europe and other countries, so they're really
it's becoming a worldwide ministry.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
Yeah. I've been noting some soccer slash European football players
who are boldly coming out regarding their faith in Jesus.
It's just remarkable to me. And that's the same outreach
you're talking about it.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
It's a great outreach.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
I obviously do the baseball one, and you know, you
see players there. Vicky and I have been on the
board since I don't know ninety five or something at
PO and you go in there never knowing who you're
going to see. And so I mean, the Yankees have
had a lot of people show up, Andy Pettitt and
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actually Garrett Cole was supposed to come last year if
something happened he didn't, but Luke Weaver and Clay Holmes
and just a bunch of guys Trent Grisham. But then
you see players from other teams that you're always rooting against, Okay,
and then these guys show up like Tommy edmund And
and Jan Gohm, Clayton Gershaw.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
I haven't seen Kershaw there, but I do know he's
a believer.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Yeah, I've heard that.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
And so you get you get play Andrew Kittridge. You know,
pictures that have thrown at guys I represent, and I'm like,
I'm like, seriously, you're you're a believer. Now now I
can't you know, dislike you as much as I have.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
But their faith is real and they're very open about it,
you know, not just writing a Philippians four thirteen on
their soccer shoe. They really are living it out.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
Yeah, David, you know, the PEO is in November. It
actually starts November ninth, So we're approaching real quick for
the next one. And the season just ended a month ago,
and these guys have been on the road for you know,
six months, and so to have a player and his
wife take the time to go to a four day
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conference away from home is a big deal. And uh
it shows you that their commitment.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
Does it help them to be with other players, even
on other teams, who share their faith and they know
they're not alone?
Speaker 3 (27:11):
Well sure, because everyone's building each other up. I mean
they're they're edifying each other. And we get a lot
of minor league guys. I'm actually scholarshipping two of the
players I represent with their girlfriends. They're they're they're coming
this year and I'm excited about that. One plays for
the in the Cubs organization, does in the Diamondbacks organization,
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and it's it's that's what really turns me on the
most is to be able to get these young guys
that I represent to go to PAO and see how
their life's changed.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
And you've actually had some of your own people that
you represent actually come to faith as a part of
your involvement in their life. I talk about that, please.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
Yeah. So I had a player.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
I had a player uh in Cape cod who's in
playing playing in the Cape from college. And I pulled
over to the side of the road with him in
my car and I said, you want to pray to
receive Christ right now because we were talking about it,
and he did and that that was neat. But I
think my most fun story is I was with a
group from the Ministry Compassion because we have a couple
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of kids that we scholarship. We take care of their
their food and their health and school and stuff.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
In Dominican Republic.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
Yeah, it's amazing that a couple hundred dollars a year can
actually give all of that to a child.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Oh, it's it's huge.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
And so the player was Rafael Dolice, who pitched the
big leagues, and h we were doing a baseball showcase
for young kids in Kenzuela, which is the city he
grew up in, which I didn't know, and I had
him and a couple other players come in to work
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with the kids, and he had he had a little stutter,
and I said, you know, I want you to say
something to the kids.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
He goes, oh, no, no, no, I can't talk. Can't talk.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
Well, he started talking, didn't didn't, you know, shut up
for about ten minutes. He was great, and right on
that field where he played as a child, Ralpha prayed
to receive Christ.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
With me, Wow, that's the most important thing in it, Bill,
I mean, when you get right down to it, it's
great seeing, you know, the Yankees play. It's great having
a ring like you have on even right now about
a former New York championship. But at the end of
the day, we're going to spend a whole lot more
time there then we spend here. At the end of
the day, all of the accolades and trophies that we
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have here are going to burn. They're not that important
to God. What's really important to God is the trophy
of someone's life being dramatically changed. Who will spend eternity
with the Lord forever?
Speaker 2 (29:50):
Yeah, there's there's there's no question.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
So you know, the the excitement I get in my
heart when somebody says they want to pray is just
a norm.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
It's so much fun.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
Well, and the future of Pro Athletes Outreach is not diminishing.
It's getting larger.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
In an idea, it's expanding exponentially. Yeah, I mean it's
the growth. Steve has led this ministry with really god
led hands.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
It's been amazing.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
Well, I know that my friend John Casey used to
kick for the Panthers here was very much involved in
Pro Athletes Outreach and used to be a part of
their conferences and share his testimony and his life in Jesus.
And he would share with me that there were many
many others involved with it as well. And it must
just encourage your heart to think that sports is fun,
but it's a means to an end, it's not the
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end itself.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
Yeah, So it's great to see. It's great to see
these players on the field and you know you've just
seen them at a conference. They love Jesus and it
just makes it really difficult. When the guy's up with
the bases loaded against the Yankees and you're really.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
Rooting against them, I feel really badly about it.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
Oh you can't help but have that loyalty. It's too
much a part of your life. Just real quickly this question.
Then we'll go to break and come back again. Does
a person's faith ever hurt them in there being signed
by another team? Does ever a team look at them
and say, oh, they're a committed Christian, I don't want
them on this team.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
I haven't heard about that, but you know, you don't
know what some of these guys are thinking. The gms
are the owners. But I hope that's not the case.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
Well, I'll never forget. I heard Bobby Richardson speak some
years ago second Basement for the Yankees back in the
fifties and sixties, and he was asked the question does
loving Jesus make you a better baseball player? And he said, well,
it makes me a better husband, makes me a better father,
makes me a better businessman. I guess all of those
things considered, it makes me a better baseball player as well.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
It does.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
Bill Rose is my guest. We'll talk about your understanding
faith in the larger professional sports realm in the continuation.
In just a moment, I'm David Chadwick, will be right back.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
Christ is my.
Speaker 7 (33:34):
Fund Fine days there rock go with Chill said everything
round me said, I've never been more glad. I put
in my faith in Jesus because He's never.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
Faith Well, all of us are putting the planks into
our lives foundation every day we live. May I encourage
all of you to put your planks in Jesus. And
when those winds come, storms blow, your house will stand
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because it's built upon the rock whose name is Jesus. Howeveryone,
I'm David Chadwick and this is News Talk eleven, ten
ninety nine three WBT. Welcome back to this show. I've
had a blast today with my guest, Bill Rose. Bill's
a friend for a couple of years, and I just
enjoyed getting to know him so much. He is a
partial owner of the New York Yankees. He is a
sports agent who oversees other players as well. He's also
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a part of Pro Athletes's outreach that we talked about.
Involves himself with many players in the Major League Baseball
arena who love Jesus with all their heart. But most
of important to me as Bill loves the Lord himself
and walks with him closely. Bill, could I just share
this story real quickly, and I hope you won't mind
me doing this. A couple of weeks ago at church,
I had people write down on a card the name
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of someone that they wanted to come to faith in Jesus,
and we took it to the cross and we placed
it at the foot of the cross. You later shared
with me a text that you wrote a house drin
Mayor George's son about your desire that he would come
to faith in the Lord. I hope I'm not going
in places I shouldn't go, but I just was so
moved by that that you used an opportunity to reach
out to somebody who doesn't know the Lord that you
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really wanted to know the Lord yourself.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
I mean, I don't know that Hal doesn't know the Lord,
but you know I sent him an email and you know,
didn't get a response.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
But that's okay. I did what I felt I was
led to do.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
Well, you're a seed scatterer, and it's your job to
scatter the seeds. It's God's job to bring that seed
to fruition and germination in faith. So thank you for
being faithful. I just thought that was a neat story.
You heard the message, you thought of somebody, you said,
I'm just going to react right now and do what
I need to do.
Speaker 3 (36:05):
Well, you know, I was a friend of his dad's
for so many years and loved him dearly. And you
know how's been a friend and has really taken great
care of me and Vicky. So you know, I love
the whole family. They've been They've been fabulous.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
Yeah, well, thank you for doing that. I just think
it's a great example of take the moment, seize the moment,
use every opportunity to scatter seeds, because that's what we're
all called to do. The harvest is plentiful, the labors
are few. Luke ten two. Okay, let me shift gears
real quickly, just to get your insight on this, because
I just appreciate it. There's a lot of headlines about
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the potential of Mam Donnie being the mayor of New
York City. I mean, Bill, when I look at his views,
I've said socialist, but really it's more communistic as I
realize what he believes. Your thoughts on this a couple
of weeks the election is going to occur. Could that
possibly be that Mam Donnie will be the mayor of
New York City right now?
Speaker 3 (37:01):
I don't see how even if even if Curtis Lee
were dropped out and uh sort of went with Cuomo
and and Cuomo said I'm going to put him in
my administration, which he just said, by the way, yesterday,
I think.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
It's going to be tough.
Speaker 3 (37:18):
I mean if you put those two together and put
their their their their votes together, Butndami still leads, and uh.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
What what's the attraction. You're a New Yorker all of
your life. What's the attraction to this guy?
Speaker 2 (37:31):
People like free stuff? And and and.
Speaker 3 (37:34):
And he's offering free everything, free buses, free food, Uh,
government run grocery stores.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
It is.
Speaker 3 (37:41):
It's got communism ridden all over it. And I sold
my apartment three years ago. So first, it's the first
time in my life I've never had an apartment in
New York. And I'm thrilled because, I mean there's been
a pretty good sized exodus out of New York when
Deblasio was mayor. And I think what you're going to
see is businesses just run for the Hills.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
Yeah, well, I say to people all the time who
have some attraction to socialism slash communism, where's it ever work?
No place, There's no place it's ever worked in the
history of humankind. In fact, if you really look at
the places where it's become dominant, there are literally tens
of millions of people who are killed in taking advantage
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of them. So let us all be forewarned. It's just
a scary kind of situation for me because government promising
people's stuff will always cause the people to vote for government.
But then government just takes advantage of them and controls
them to the nth degree.
Speaker 2 (38:39):
Which is what they want.
Speaker 3 (38:40):
I mean, government wants to have total control power over
your life. And you know they're they're putting out that
this is democracy or they're fighting for democracy. They're actually
fighting against democracy. So at least in my opinion.
Speaker 1 (38:55):
Well, let me get your years of wisdom. As a
person who loves the Lord and loves our country and
its basic freedoms, what would you say to all of
us who love sports, who love also our nation, how
would you address our listeners today regarding what you would
love our future to look like as a nation?
Speaker 3 (39:18):
Boy, we need to return to God. I mean, we
need a revival. And this whole Charlie Kirk thing really
hit me. I was in tears. I'd met him, didn't
really know him, but I met him, and I just
think what he was doing with the young kids was amazing.
And I just hope Erica. I pray, we pray for
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her every night, and I hope that she takes that
turning point USA and and keeps it going and it
grows exponentially because young kids need God. This country needs
to return to our roots, to return to faith, to
put God front and center, and we've gone so far
are from that.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
Yeah, I will say something is stirring in the hearts
of young people today. My son Michael is with me
on staff and he oversees our middle school, high school,
and young adult ministries that they're purging, they're growing in
exponential numbers. It's really fascinating to see the hunger in
the heart of many young people who want Jesus, want
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to have a future, want to have a hope. So
I'm praying that's happening. Bill.
Speaker 2 (40:25):
Yeah, I think it is.
Speaker 3 (40:26):
And it's an uphill battle because a lot of the
lot of these colleges are.
Speaker 2 (40:30):
They're okay.
Speaker 3 (40:33):
Satanic groups, clubs and they are they are not allowing
like TPUSA to have a chapter. So it is it's
an uphill bat battle, but it's worth fighting for.
Speaker 1 (40:45):
And there are a number of people who are taking
those particular schools to court and saying you cannot prevent
TPUSA from having a chapter on your college or on
your high school or middle school campus. And from what
I've heard from people, and we had one of their
leaders in our studio a couple few weeks ago, she
said that the number of requests for these chapters is exponential,
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off the charts numbers, and that's encouraging to.
Speaker 3 (41:10):
He it's over two hundred thousand right now. Over two
hundred thousand.
Speaker 1 (41:13):
Wow wow. And Bill, you and I both are old
enough to know from where our nation has come, and
we also know enough about where the world is headed,
and we just want to be voices that speak truth
to our world. We have a minute left. How would
you like to leave your voice on this program, on
this station to our listeners today.
Speaker 3 (41:32):
Well, first of all, I mean I'm just thrilled to
be here. Thank you for inviting me, David, And I
will say I'll put a plug in for you. He
didn't ask for this, but if you're looking for a
church home, go to Moments of Hope because it is fabulous.
David speaks the truth and Vicky and I've gotten so
much out of it, and we are lifers there and
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buddies of him, and it's just a pleasure to support
you well.
Speaker 1 (42:00):
Thank you, Bill, and we're honored to have you be
a part of our church's life as well. And I
would tell all of you who are listening today, please
love God with all your heart's, soul, mind, and might
love your neighbor as yourself. And if you do those
two things, you have a lifetime's worth of work to do.
Next week, Bill and Vicki Rose in studio talking about
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how to restore a broken marriage. Vicky's written a book
about that. That'll be a wonderful program. Please join us.
I'm David Chadwick and I'll talk to you all next week.
Hi everyone, I'm David Chadwick and this is News Talk eleven,
ten ninety nine and three WBT. Welcome to the show.
If you don't know, this is a faith and values
program that I've been doing now for over twenty five
years here on WBT. It's a pleasure doing the show.
Thank you for listening on a weekly basis. Many thanks
to my friends at Perry's Fine Jewelry for your sponsorship
of the show. Without you, I could not do this
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on a weekly basis. I'm very grateful for your sponsorship. Well,
I have a show today that I've really been looking
forward to. I have in studio with me, not only
my producer at Billique has an open mic because I
know this show will be of great interest to him.
He might want to interject a question here or there.
But my guest is Bill Rose. Bill's become a friend
over the last couple of years. Bill is a partial
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owner of the New York Yankees. He is originally from
New York and that is his home ground and I
wanted to have him on the show partly because here
we are the world series has begun. We tape this
show on Thursday, so by the time you listen to it,
we will know if the Dodgers or the Toronto Blue
Jays are up two to oh or it's one in one.
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So anyway, we're going to record this show with that knowledge.
But also I want to get Bill's input on the
World Series, what he thinks about that, some baseball questions
for those of us who still love the game of baseball,
realizing that with Toronto and also with Otani with the Dodgers,
there's a huge audience now watching in Canada and Japan
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and throughout the world, and I just wanted to get
Bill's insights on a lot of different information. He's a
sports agent and I appreciate Bill Rose. Thank you for
being on the show with me today.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
A pleasure to be here.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
David, Well, let's talk about the World Series. When we
talked a couple of weeks ago, I said, okay, Bill,
your projection and you predicted actually Toronto and La correct.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
I did rooting for the other two sides, but it
was hard to go against at those clubs.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Yeah, and and the Dodgers are probably the favorites. Don't
you think.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Dodgers are definitely the favorites. They're starting pitching staff makes
them a distinctive favorite that their their starting staff is
is really tough.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Yeah, And how do you win if you can't score
more than one or two runs? And now I was
just going to say that you've got to score runs
to win the games. And if the Dodgers pitching staff
is that strong, how in the world do you have
any hope of winning?
Speaker 4 (02:25):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Pitching always good pitching always stops good hitting, especially, And
I mean when you when you get to this point,
you're not facing number threes and fours and fives of
mediocre teams. You're facing the best of the best.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Yeah. Guerrero is pretty good player, though.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Isn't He's a great player. And you know he killed
the Yankees this year. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
So if there was ever a World Series where I'd
like to see both teams lose, this would be it.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Because Toronto eliminated your beloved Yankees.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Thank you very much, David.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
And Bill. You bought the Yankees into the Yankees back.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
When nineteen seventy six.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Wow, and you knew George Steinbrenner.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
I was introduced to George through a mutual friend. I
had been a Yankee fan, so I was six years old,
and so George and I got friendly and we would
go out to dinner five nights a week when he
was in New York. He was really my closest friend,
and it was just it was amazing. I mean, he'd
called me up in the middle of the night and say, Rose,
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would you make this trade or whatever? And or Rose
maybe at PJ. Clarks was a Hamburger place in New
York at like midnight, and you know when the owner
of the Yankees calls you up. I got up at
midnight when met him at PJ.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Clark's. But he offered me the job actually.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
Of managing their Fort Lauderdale team when I was twenty
three years old, or being the GM at Syracuse, which
is their Triple A team. But even then I knew
working for George was not going to be my best
long term health interests.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
A lot of people felt that, didn't say so I.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Turned it down, but some points came up and with
my dad we bought it and I seventy six.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Wow, And that's been an important part of your life
for all these years, your love for the Yankees and
for their involvement with you in so many different ways.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Yeah, it's been a huge part. It's been it's been
just it's such a blessing. And my wife, when we
first dated, she had never been to a baseball game
in her life, and the first year we went out,
she went to seventy out of the eighty.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
One Yankee home games with me. Wow, to which I say,
she wanted the ring, and to what she says, it worked.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Wife named Vicky. You guys live in Charlotte, partially some
other places as well. How many kids?
Speaker 2 (04:38):
We have two children and six grandchildren they're all here.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Well, my joke, I say all the time. If I'd
known grandparenting was so much fun, I would have skipped
parenting altogether.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
A question.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
I agree, Yeah. And Bill, you're a sports agent as well.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
I am I represent I mean right now, I'm actually
the only certified agent in the history of baseball that's
also a limited partner in a major league team. It
never happened before and it will never happen again. So
I've been grandfathered in. And our firm has represented a
lot of good players, from Josh Beckett and Lance Berkman
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and Josh Hamilton to now Oswella Cabrera. Alex call is
actually on the Dodgers. So there's been a good group
of guys.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Well, baseball has been a big part of my life.
I can remember going to the minor league Charlotte Hornets
games back in the nineteen fifties when they'd have people
like Harmon Killerbrew and Tony o Leva, I know, you know,
some of those great names of great players. And my
dad and I would sit in the same spot every time.
At the end of the sixth inning, we'd go get
a snow cone together. He'd get grape, I'd get orange.
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I remember it vividly, like it was yesterday. And that
just implanted a love for the game within me, I
guess partly because I got to share it with my dad.
And you just have loved the game since day one
as well, haven't you.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
I have.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
It's you know, when it's in your blood, it becomes
absolute passion. And to get to get to be able
to do for a job what your passion is, Tell
me that's not a blessing.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
You never work a day in your life, don't. And
you also had a huge sports bar in New York
City real quickly talk about that.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Yeah, I had a place called the Sporting Club in
Tribeca and it was six thousand square feet. I had
no clue what I was doing, but somehow it turned
out great.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Yeah, one of the biggest sports bars in New York City,
and you said to me one time it was probably
the most popular in the city at one point.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Well it was.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
It was also rated number one in the country by
USA Today in Time magazine.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Wow. My guest today, Bill Rose, fascinating person, partial owner
of the New York Yankees. Talk about the World Series
when we come back some and then also Bill, just
want to talk about your faith and your values and
also your involvement with Pro Athletes Outreach, which is a
Christian outreach to many pro athletes today, so that you
can talk some about your faith but also people you
know in sports who have a deep faith themselves. I'm
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David Chadwick. We will be right back.
Speaker 5 (08:24):
When life has got you going strong, then all of
a sudden things are wrong.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
We tend to stumble day to day. I wonder when
will be okay. There times when we have to just
push through and see the light.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
Ahead of you, and when we reach the finish side,
we will stand up being probably well.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
That voice is Parker Robinson, who's the worship leader at
the church. I pastor, how much of church? What a
wonderful gift God has given him? How everyone? I'm David
Chadwick and this is News Talk eleven, ten ninety nine
three WBT. Welcome back to the show. Special guest today
a good friend, Bill Rose. Bill is partial owner of
the New York Yankees. Bill is a sports agent. I'm
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married to VICKI two kids, six grandkids, lives partially here
in Charlotte, and I just wanted to have Bill on
the show today during World Series. Time to talk baseball
and what's going on. Bill. Great to have you on
the show.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Thanks, great to be here, David.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Baseball, I mean some people have thought it would die.
That has become too long and too boring. They've done
the pitch clock now shortened the games. To me, it
seems like baseball has never been healthier. What do you think?
Speaker 3 (09:44):
I agree, it's it's I think the revenue is incredible.
I mean, the Dodgers had over four million fans this year,
which is unbelievable. But then the four million fans to support.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
Their payroll has got for.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
You know, four million million dollars, so it's a lot
of money.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Yeah, well, Bill, you do talk about baseball, and a
lot of people still have passion for it, but it
looks like to me we're headed for a lockout, largely
because of the seeming disparity among the teams their willingness
to spend. I mean, some people are saying that the
lower revenue teams, like say the Pittsburgh Pirates or whomever,
they need to spend more in order to get better.
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But then other people say, well, the players that the
Dodgers have signed, their other teams refused to sign them,
so they went to the Dodgers who were willing to
pay for them. And then there's the other argument, Well,
the Dodgers have the payroll with the television, and the Yankees,
like you know, you're an owner there have this kind
of payroll from the television, radio, et cetera. What's the truth,
what's going on your assessment?
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Well, the real problem is with revenue sharing.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
I think they thought they would sort of even the
playing fields, and teams like the Yankees and the Dodgers
pay an absolute fortune revenue sharing and this money goes
to the small market teams. But the real problem is
most of these small market teams, the owners pocket the money.
They don't put it into players, player development, the things
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they need to get even with the upper echelon teams,
and so that's been a real issue and that's why
there's such a disparity.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Bill you have ed, do you have a question?
Speaker 5 (11:27):
No, I was just saying that is absolutely true. The
pirates twenty eight percent of the revenue they're getting, they're
not They're only spending it on salaries and player development.
And to your point, Dodgers and Yankees get to spend.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
A lot more.
Speaker 5 (11:39):
It's it's there needs to be a salary cap maybe
and a salary floor.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Yeah, what's the answer.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
There needs to be a salary floor.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
The players have been against a salary cap free market
forever and I'm not sure that's going to change. The owners,
I think, are pretty unified for the first time to
try to implement a salary cap, and I think we're
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heading for a lockout after the twenty sixth season.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Well, that voice is Bill Rose, partial owner of New
York Yankees, can give us insights into baseball. Let's talk
about lockout, Bill. I remember the one in the early nineties.
I'm a big Atlanta Braves fan, and they were just
getting good at that point and in the heart of
some of their success, and then suddenly there's a lockout.
And I had a number of my friends who said,
I'll never watch baseball again. They got so frustrated with
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people who are millionaires, multimillionaires who are not willing to
play because they want even more millions.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
Your thoughts, well, my thoughts are that, don't forget when
you're calling it a lockout, you're putting the onus on
the owners. All Right, it's not a strike. So there's
a difference, and.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
The owners are in control.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
The owners are Yeah, the owners are definitely in control.
They control the purse strings. But baseball is doing so
great it's just hard to wrap my head around the
fact that, uh, there's going to be a stoppage. You
would think they'd come to some sort of deal.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Bill.
Speaker 5 (13:11):
It works in the NBA, works in the NFL and NHL,
why not the MLB.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
Well, because those are socialistic sports. We we we are
capitalistic sports.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
Baseball is different. To make money, well, I mean it's
a lot of money. When when any think about the
Dodgers and their creativity with putting money they're going to
give to players way into the future, and they don't
have to deal with it right now? Is that an
answer you think for other teams to do the same thing.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
Yeah, But you know, I think, uh, what's going to
happen this year is going to be a real different
spin on free agency because teams knowing there's going to
be a lockout.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
You know and don't and not knowing.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
What the results going to be after the lockout are
going to be very hesitant to be given away two, three,
four hundred million dollar contracts.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
Per year because you don't know what's gonna happen after
this next season. I mean, I think, I don't know
if this is a good illustration or not, but the
Angels just signed Kurt Suzuki as their manager for one year,
and is that because of the potential lockout occurring?
Speaker 3 (14:20):
Most likely, I can't really look into what Ardi Moreno,
you know, was thinking when he signed him for a year.
I know they were interested in Albert Poolhols. He was
on the top of the list to be a manager,
So I'm not sure what the inner workings were there.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
So if there's a lockout and a stoppage of play,
what does that mean for the sport of baseball? Does
it recover? Do you think I mean, is it one
of those that the whole season could be canceled? Is
it a mid year kind of possibility? What do you
think right now?
Speaker 2 (14:52):
I think it's a whole year.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
I mean, I mean, I hate to say that, and
I hate I'm really hoping it's not true.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
But this is the worst I've seen it.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Oh, this is the worst.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
This is the worst I've seen it in the the the.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
Answer from the Players Association, you know, negotiation is not
just saying no, it's actually negotiating. And you go one
side saying no. One side's saying I want a salary cap,
and right now neither side seems to be budgeting.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
Wow. And then at that point that is the lockout
that continues on and on and on. But it's almost
like where we are with the federal government right now
with the lockout. I mean, there's just no one's willing
to budget on movement toward what's best for the people.
And it sounds like this almost the same thing.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
Yeah, Well, if you want to talk for me to
talk about the federal government lockout, that's a whole different show.
Speaker 5 (15:42):
I probably shouldn't have baited that hook Bill who's head
of the Players Union.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
These days, Tony Tony Clark.
Speaker 5 (15:49):
Then, so who speaks for the owners is it Manfred?
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Manfred is the commissioner, so so.
Speaker 5 (15:55):
The spokesperson, Yeah he is, and that what kind of
relationship do those two have?
Speaker 2 (15:59):
Not much?
Speaker 1 (16:01):
Not much?
Speaker 6 (16:01):
Yeah, the ownership, the the the head of the union
previously to this was a guy named Michael Wiener, brilliant,
brilliant lawyer.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
And before that you had Gene rs and Don Fear.
I mean, these were big time leaders of the union.
And I love Tony. Tony's a great guy, but we
got to start negotiating.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Yeah, well, I don't understand why you'd want to kill
the Golden Goose. I agree, It just doesn't make sense.
You've got this revenue producer that's going on, and everybody
seems to be profiting accordingly. Even if you are a
small market team, why in the world would you dare
even go close to a stoppage? Why would you not
in the off season, especially, come to an agreement so
(16:48):
that it assures this game that a lot of people
love will continue.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
I think Actually, if you're a small market team, a
lockout hurts them more than anything because they're they're there.
Attendance is small to begin with. They can't afford to
lose five or ten percent of their attendance.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
But a team like the Yankees, of which you're a
partial owner, and the Dodgers, the big market teams can
afford to do it because they have so much revenue.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
If they can afford to do it for a period
of time, because the contracts don't get smaller. But you know,
so far, the history shows fans return.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (17:23):
Well, I tell you in Pittsburgh, if you hold the
owner accountable to spend the money on salaries, they will
cheer an applaud because sell the team. Sell the team
was in the stadium all year long.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
Yeah, I said, it's spin like that for a bunch
of teams.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Well, I remember my daddy was one day reading the
newspaper and you'd remember this name way back when Bill
Jake Gibbs signed one hundred thousand dollars contract with the Yankees,
and my dad just said, this is ridiculous. Somewhere baseball
has just got to have a ceiling for all this
money that's being spent. And now you're looking at, you know,
almost a billion dollar contracts, and it just is there
(17:58):
in a place this will end and just real quickly.
We got to take a break in thirty seconds.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
But Candice end, well, it can end if the owners
got what they want during for the lockout. So that's
what they're trying to do. But you know, it's a
market driven sport and teams can afford it. They're going
to pay and they want to win.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
Bill Rose is my guest partial owner of the New
York Yankees. I'll talk to you just a second about
your prediction for the World Series. Then I want to
get into your involvement with Pro Athletes Outreach, which is
a Christian outreach to pro athletes and some of the
people that are involved with it. Your involvement and how
we can really have hope for a lot of these
guys that we watch and adulate really are good people,
(18:40):
people of deep faith that we can say, hmm, I
want my child to be like him. I'm David Chadwick.
We will be right back.
Speaker 4 (19:10):
U you sit, You're going to Locke.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
If you walk to him, bam, you gonna walk.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Just to mention not his name.
Speaker 4 (21:16):
Name.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
Well, I can't explain it. All I know is there's
power in the name of Jesus, and he does answer
prayers when we pray in his name, we do walk
How everyone, I'm David Chadwick and this is News Talk eleven,
ten ninety nine three WBT. Welcome back to the show.
If you'd like to hear this program with my friend
(21:37):
Bill Rose, a partial owner of the New York Yankees.
Insights into the Yankees and baseball, but more importantly, we're
getting into it in just a second about faith and
some of this involvement with Christian athletes. Go to WBT
dot com, scroll down to the weekend shows, look for
the David Chadwick Show and you can hear this program
in its entirety. Bill, great to have you on the show.
Thank you again for being here. Just real quickly, I
(22:00):
mean again, we're two games into the World Series, all
right now? Your prediction? Who's gonna win it? How many games?
Take a stab?
Speaker 3 (22:08):
It's hard to bet against the Dodgers. I mean just
there again. Their pitching staff is just as good as
I've seen. I think the Dodgers win in either five
or six.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
Okay, Bill, a shift gears. Your faith is very real
to you. How did you come to know Jesus as
your Lord and savior?
Speaker 3 (22:27):
Well, both my wife and I are Jewish and the
only time I ever went to Temple was during the
World Series. My dad wanted to take me to a
Yankee World Series game. My mom said, can't go out
of school unless he goes to Temple. Was during Yam Kapoor.
So I went to Temple, went to the World Series game.
But that was really the extent. We were more culturally
(22:48):
Jewish than than religiously. And when I got married, my
wife was also Jewish, but her dad actually had accepted Christ,
and I just thought it was all a fad, and.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
We were separated. We got separated for five and a
half years.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
And by the way, that's next week's program, Part two
with Bill and Vicki Rose. Bill's Vicky has written a
book about your separation, and then you're getting back together,
and she'll be with us next week.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
She will, and you'll enjoy here way more than me.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
Well that's true, yeah, yeah, no question.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
She's a lot cuter than I am too.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
So well I would say that too, anyway.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
Come on, So during the five and a half years separation,
real quick she came to Christ, and then I thought
it was a fad she was going through.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
And then.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
Then two and a half years later I came to
Christ we put our marriage back together.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
Well. And you have been involved as a sports agent
but also a partial owner of the New York Yankees
in what's called Pro Athletes Outreach. Would you talk about
what that organization is and your involvement in it.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
Yeah, PAO was started, I mean I think in like
nineteen ninety maybe in nineteen eighty something, and when I
was there, the president of PAO was Norm Evans, who
played for that undefeated Dolphin football team. And so it's
now the president's a guy named Steve Stenstrom. Steve was
(24:21):
a quarterback at Stanford and played a little bit I
think for the Seahawks.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
I think that's right.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
And actually Steve still holds the all time passing yortage
leader at Stanford, over Elway and Plunkett and all those guys.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
Andrew Luck I think also, yeah, wow.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
So still number one. And it's a ministry of pro
players to pro players. There's a baseball conference and a
football conference, and now they've been reaching out to race
car drivers, hockey players, soccer. So it's really expanding. It's
not only expanding the US, PAO is now becoming international,
(24:59):
with places in Europe and other countries, so they're really
it's becoming a worldwide ministry.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
Yeah. I've been noting some soccer slash European football players
who are boldly coming out regarding their faith in Jesus.
It's just remarkable to me. And that's the same outreach
you're talking about it.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
It's a great outreach.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
I obviously do the baseball one, and you know, you
see players there. Vicky and I have been on the
board since I don't know ninety five or something at
PO and you go in there never knowing who you're
going to see. And so I mean, the Yankees have
had a lot of people show up, Andy Pettitt and
(25:44):
actually Garrett Cole was supposed to come last year if
something happened he didn't, but Luke Weaver and Clay Holmes
and just a bunch of guys Trent Grisham. But then
you see players from other teams that you're always rooting against, Okay,
and then these guys show up like Tommy edmund And
and Jan Gohm, Clayton Gershaw.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
I haven't seen Kershaw there, but I do know he's
a believer.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Yeah, I've heard that.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
And so you get you get play Andrew Kittridge. You know,
pictures that have thrown at guys I represent, and I'm like,
I'm like, seriously, you're you're a believer. Now now I
can't you know, dislike you as much as I have.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
But their faith is real and they're very open about it,
you know, not just writing a Philippians four thirteen on
their soccer shoe. They really are living it out.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
Yeah, David, you know, the PEO is in November. It
actually starts November ninth, So we're approaching real quick for
the next one. And the season just ended a month ago,
and these guys have been on the road for you know,
six months, and so to have a player and his
wife take the time to go to a four day
(26:57):
conference away from home is a big deal. And uh
it shows you that their commitment.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
Does it help them to be with other players, even
on other teams, who share their faith and they know
they're not alone?
Speaker 3 (27:11):
Well sure, because everyone's building each other up. I mean
they're they're edifying each other. And we get a lot
of minor league guys. I'm actually scholarshipping two of the
players I represent with their girlfriends. They're they're they're coming
this year and I'm excited about that. One plays for
the in the Cubs organization, does in the Diamondbacks organization,
(27:33):
and it's it's that's what really turns me on the
most is to be able to get these young guys
that I represent to go to PAO and see how
their life's changed.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
And you've actually had some of your own people that
you represent actually come to faith as a part of
your involvement in their life. I talk about that, please.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
Yeah. So I had a player.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
I had a player uh in Cape cod who's in
playing playing in the Cape from college. And I pulled
over to the side of the road with him in
my car and I said, you want to pray to
receive Christ right now because we were talking about it,
and he did and that that was neat. But I
think my most fun story is I was with a
group from the Ministry Compassion because we have a couple
(28:20):
of kids that we scholarship. We take care of their
their food and their health and school and stuff.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
In Dominican Republic.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
Yeah, it's amazing that a couple hundred dollars a year can
actually give all of that to a child.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Oh, it's it's huge.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
And so the player was Rafael Dolice, who pitched the
big leagues, and h we were doing a baseball showcase
for young kids in Kenzuela, which is the city he
grew up in, which I didn't know, and I had
him and a couple other players come in to work
(28:54):
with the kids, and he had he had a little stutter,
and I said, you know, I want you to say
something to the kids.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
He goes, oh, no, no, no, I can't talk. Can't talk.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
Well, he started talking, didn't didn't, you know, shut up
for about ten minutes. He was great, and right on
that field where he played as a child, Ralpha prayed
to receive Christ.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
With me, Wow, that's the most important thing in it, Bill,
I mean, when you get right down to it, it's
great seeing, you know, the Yankees play. It's great having
a ring like you have on even right now about
a former New York championship. But at the end of
the day, we're going to spend a whole lot more
time there then we spend here. At the end of
the day, all of the accolades and trophies that we
(29:39):
have here are going to burn. They're not that important
to God. What's really important to God is the trophy
of someone's life being dramatically changed. Who will spend eternity
with the Lord forever?
Speaker 2 (29:50):
Yeah, there's there's there's no question.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
So you know, the the excitement I get in my
heart when somebody says they want to pray is just
a norm.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
It's so much fun.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
Well, and the future of Pro Athletes Outreach is not diminishing.
It's getting larger.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
In an idea, it's expanding exponentially. Yeah, I mean it's
the growth. Steve has led this ministry with really god
led hands.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
It's been amazing.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
Well, I know that my friend John Casey used to
kick for the Panthers here was very much involved in
Pro Athletes Outreach and used to be a part of
their conferences and share his testimony and his life in Jesus.
And he would share with me that there were many
many others involved with it as well. And it must
just encourage your heart to think that sports is fun,
but it's a means to an end, it's not the
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end itself.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
Yeah, So it's great to see. It's great to see
these players on the field and you know you've just
seen them at a conference. They love Jesus and it
just makes it really difficult. When the guy's up with
the bases loaded against the Yankees and you're really.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
Rooting against them, I feel really badly about it.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
Oh you can't help but have that loyalty. It's too
much a part of your life. Just real quickly this question.
Then we'll go to break and come back again. Does
a person's faith ever hurt them in there being signed
by another team? Does ever a team look at them
and say, oh, they're a committed Christian, I don't want
them on this team.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
I haven't heard about that, but you know, you don't
know what some of these guys are thinking. The gms
are the owners. But I hope that's not the case.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
Well, I'll never forget. I heard Bobby Richardson speak some
years ago second Basement for the Yankees back in the
fifties and sixties, and he was asked the question does
loving Jesus make you a better baseball player? And he said, well,
it makes me a better husband, makes me a better father,
makes me a better businessman. I guess all of those
things considered, it makes me a better baseball player as well.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
It does.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
Bill Rose is my guest. We'll talk about your understanding
faith in the larger professional sports realm in the continuation.
In just a moment, I'm David Chadwick, will be right back.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
Christ is my.
Speaker 7 (33:34):
Fund Fine days there rock go with Chill said everything
round me said, I've never been more glad. I put
in my faith in Jesus because He's never.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
Faith Well, all of us are putting the planks into
our lives foundation every day we live. May I encourage
all of you to put your planks in Jesus. And
when those winds come, storms blow, your house will stand
(34:26):
because it's built upon the rock whose name is Jesus. Howeveryone,
I'm David Chadwick and this is News Talk eleven, ten
ninety nine three WBT. Welcome back to this show. I've
had a blast today with my guest, Bill Rose. Bill's
a friend for a couple of years, and I just
enjoyed getting to know him so much. He is a
partial owner of the New York Yankees. He is a
sports agent who oversees other players as well. He's also
(34:49):
a part of Pro Athletes's outreach that we talked about.
Involves himself with many players in the Major League Baseball
arena who love Jesus with all their heart. But most
of important to me as Bill loves the Lord himself
and walks with him closely. Bill, could I just share
this story real quickly, and I hope you won't mind
me doing this. A couple of weeks ago at church,
I had people write down on a card the name
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of someone that they wanted to come to faith in Jesus,
and we took it to the cross and we placed
it at the foot of the cross. You later shared
with me a text that you wrote a house drin
Mayor George's son about your desire that he would come
to faith in the Lord. I hope I'm not going
in places I shouldn't go, but I just was so
moved by that that you used an opportunity to reach
out to somebody who doesn't know the Lord that you
(35:32):
really wanted to know the Lord yourself.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
I mean, I don't know that Hal doesn't know the Lord,
but you know I sent him an email and you know,
didn't get a response.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
But that's okay. I did what I felt I was
led to do.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
Well, you're a seed scatterer, and it's your job to
scatter the seeds. It's God's job to bring that seed
to fruition and germination in faith. So thank you for
being faithful. I just thought that was a neat story.
You heard the message, you thought of somebody, you said,
I'm just going to react right now and do what
I need to do.
Speaker 3 (36:05):
Well, you know, I was a friend of his dad's
for so many years and loved him dearly. And you
know how's been a friend and has really taken great
care of me and Vicky. So you know, I love
the whole family. They've been They've been fabulous.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
Yeah, well, thank you for doing that. I just think
it's a great example of take the moment, seize the moment,
use every opportunity to scatter seeds, because that's what we're
all called to do. The harvest is plentiful, the labors
are few. Luke ten two. Okay, let me shift gears
real quickly, just to get your insight on this, because
I just appreciate it. There's a lot of headlines about
(36:42):
the potential of Mam Donnie being the mayor of New
York City. I mean, Bill, when I look at his views,
I've said socialist, but really it's more communistic as I
realize what he believes. Your thoughts on this a couple
of weeks the election is going to occur. Could that
possibly be that Mam Donnie will be the mayor of
New York City right now?
Speaker 3 (37:01):
I don't see how even if even if Curtis Lee
were dropped out and uh sort of went with Cuomo
and and Cuomo said I'm going to put him in
my administration, which he just said, by the way, yesterday,
I think.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
It's going to be tough.
Speaker 3 (37:18):
I mean if you put those two together and put
their their their their votes together, Butndami still leads, and uh.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
What what's the attraction. You're a New Yorker all of
your life. What's the attraction to this guy?
Speaker 2 (37:31):
People like free stuff? And and and.
Speaker 3 (37:34):
And he's offering free everything, free buses, free food, Uh,
government run grocery stores.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
It is.
Speaker 3 (37:41):
It's got communism ridden all over it. And I sold
my apartment three years ago. So first, it's the first
time in my life I've never had an apartment in
New York. And I'm thrilled because, I mean there's been
a pretty good sized exodus out of New York when
Deblasio was mayor. And I think what you're going to
see is businesses just run for the Hills.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
Yeah, well, I say to people all the time who
have some attraction to socialism slash communism, where's it ever work?
No place, There's no place it's ever worked in the
history of humankind. In fact, if you really look at
the places where it's become dominant, there are literally tens
of millions of people who are killed in taking advantage
(38:24):
of them. So let us all be forewarned. It's just
a scary kind of situation for me because government promising
people's stuff will always cause the people to vote for government.
But then government just takes advantage of them and controls
them to the nth degree.
Speaker 2 (38:39):
Which is what they want.
Speaker 3 (38:40):
I mean, government wants to have total control power over
your life. And you know they're they're putting out that
this is democracy or they're fighting for democracy. They're actually
fighting against democracy. So at least in my opinion.
Speaker 1 (38:55):
Well, let me get your years of wisdom. As a
person who loves the Lord and loves our country and
its basic freedoms, what would you say to all of
us who love sports, who love also our nation, how
would you address our listeners today regarding what you would
love our future to look like as a nation?
Speaker 3 (39:18):
Boy, we need to return to God. I mean, we
need a revival. And this whole Charlie Kirk thing really
hit me. I was in tears. I'd met him, didn't
really know him, but I met him, and I just
think what he was doing with the young kids was amazing.
And I just hope Erica. I pray, we pray for
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her every night, and I hope that she takes that
turning point USA and and keeps it going and it
grows exponentially because young kids need God. This country needs
to return to our roots, to return to faith, to
put God front and center, and we've gone so far
are from that.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
Yeah, I will say something is stirring in the hearts
of young people today. My son Michael is with me
on staff and he oversees our middle school, high school,
and young adult ministries that they're purging, they're growing in
exponential numbers. It's really fascinating to see the hunger in
the heart of many young people who want Jesus, want
(40:22):
to have a future, want to have a hope. So
I'm praying that's happening. Bill.
Speaker 2 (40:25):
Yeah, I think it is.
Speaker 3 (40:26):
And it's an uphill battle because a lot of the
lot of these colleges are.
Speaker 2 (40:30):
They're okay.
Speaker 3 (40:33):
Satanic groups, clubs and they are they are not allowing
like TPUSA to have a chapter. So it is it's
an uphill bat battle, but it's worth fighting for.
Speaker 1 (40:45):
And there are a number of people who are taking
those particular schools to court and saying you cannot prevent
TPUSA from having a chapter on your college or on
your high school or middle school campus. And from what
I've heard from people, and we had one of their
leaders in our studio a couple few weeks ago, she
said that the number of requests for these chapters is exponential,
(41:08):
off the charts numbers, and that's encouraging to.
Speaker 3 (41:10):
He it's over two hundred thousand right now. Over two
hundred thousand.
Speaker 1 (41:13):
Wow wow. And Bill, you and I both are old
enough to know from where our nation has come, and
we also know enough about where the world is headed,
and we just want to be voices that speak truth
to our world. We have a minute left. How would
you like to leave your voice on this program, on
this station to our listeners today.
Speaker 3 (41:32):
Well, first of all, I mean I'm just thrilled to
be here. Thank you for inviting me, David, And I
will say I'll put a plug in for you. He
didn't ask for this, but if you're looking for a
church home, go to Moments of Hope because it is fabulous.
David speaks the truth and Vicky and I've gotten so
much out of it, and we are lifers there and
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buddies of him, and it's just a pleasure to support
you well.
Speaker 1 (42:00):
Thank you, Bill, and we're honored to have you be
a part of our church's life as well. And I
would tell all of you who are listening today, please
love God with all your heart's, soul, mind, and might
love your neighbor as yourself. And if you do those
two things, you have a lifetime's worth of work to do.
Next week, Bill and Vicki Rose in studio talking about
(42:20):
how to restore a broken marriage. Vicky's written a book
about that. That'll be a wonderful program. Please join us.
I'm David Chadwick and I'll talk to you all next week.
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For more than 30 years The River Cafe in London, has been the home-from-home of artists, architects, designers, actors, collectors, writers, activists, and politicians. Michael Caine, Glenn Close, JJ Abrams, Steve McQueen, Victoria and David Beckham, and Lily Allen, are just some of the people who love to call The River Cafe home. On River Cafe Table 4, Rogers sits down with her customers—who have become friends—to talk about food memories. Table 4 explores how food impacts every aspect of our lives. “Foods is politics, food is cultural, food is how you express love, food is about your heritage, it defines who you and who you want to be,” says Rogers. Each week, Rogers invites her guest to reminisce about family suppers and first dates, what they cook, how they eat when performing, the restaurants they choose, and what food they seek when they need comfort. And to punctuate each episode of Table 4, guests such as Ralph Fiennes, Emily Blunt, and Alfonso Cuarón, read their favourite recipe from one of the best-selling River Cafe cookbooks. Table 4 itself, is situated near The River Cafe’s open kitchen, close to the bright pink wood-fired oven and next to the glossy yellow pass, where Ruthie oversees the restaurant. You are invited to take a seat at this intimate table and join the conversation. For more information, recipes, and ingredients, go to https://shoptherivercafe.co.uk/ Web: https://rivercafe.co.uk/ Instagram: www.instagram.com/therivercafelondon/ Facebook: https://en-gb.facebook.com/therivercafelondon/ For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iheartradio app, apple podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com
The Joe Rogan Experience
The official podcast of comedian Joe Rogan.