Future Law Podcast

Future Law Podcast

This podcast cuts through the noise surrounding the future of law. All over the world and across all sectors, expanding and accelerating technologies are changing our lives and even changing us. How can the law and the legal profession keep up with all the changes? Law professors Michael Madison (US) and Dan Hunter (Australia) take a global view of the law and technology ecosystem, talking to lawyers, entrepreneurs, educators, students, and thought leaders across for-profit, non-profit, and government sectors.


February 7, 2023 28 min

In this final episode of this season of The Future Law Podcast, Mike and Dan chat about what they’ve both learnt about ALSPs, what’s to come of them and how they impact both the legaltech world and the world of law generally. 

We’ll be back next season for more on law and technology. 

Head to www.thefuturelawpodcast.com for more information. 

Thanks for listening! 



Hosts: Mike Madison and Dan Hunter 

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In this week’s episode, Mike Madison chats with Michael Morneualt, a senior lawyer and litigation consultant now with Lighthouse, who has watched ALSPs grow and evolve from multiple perspectives: as a practicing lawyer, in business development, and as a long-time leader of a tech-driven litigation support and investigations practice. 

Michael talks extensively about changing patterns among ALSPs and dispute resolution, and how data...

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January 24, 2023 25 min

In this episode Dan Hunter chats with Isabel Parker, former Chief Legal Innovation Officer at Freshfields in London, and author of the recent book ‘Successful Digital Transformation in Law Firms’, about change management and structural transformation issues that law firms face nowadays, and how to address them.  

Make sure you tune in every Tuesday for everything legaltech, ALSP’s and law. 

Head to www.thefuturelawpodcast.com for m...

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January 17, 2023 25 min

We’re back to continue the season for 2023! 

Every now and then we a broader view of the future of law, beyond ALSPs, and in this episode we do just that. 

Mike Madison chats with Eric Holder, former Attorney General of the US under President Barack Obama, about the critical importance of defending and advancing voting rights in the American system and in democracy generally.  

The conversation draws on his recent book, "Our Un...

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December 14, 2022 28 min

This is a “big ideas” episode, part of our goal to bring out “big ambitious ideas about the future" as well as day to day concerns about ALSPs and legal services. 

Law professor Orly Lobel talks with host Mike Madison about her new book, The Equality Machine: Harnessing Digital Technology for a Brighter, More Inclusive Future, recently named one of the best books of 2022 by The Economist magazine. 

In the conversation and in th...

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December 6, 2022 28 min

What if we stopped speculating about ALSPs and instead started collecting data to gather useful information? That’s exactly what this episode is about. 

Host Mike Madison talks with Lucy Ricca and David Freeman Engstrom from Stanford Law School's Deborah L. Rhode Center on the Legal Profession about their research into the results so far of Utan's "regulatory sandbox" innovation, which created space for non-traditio...

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Mike chats with Bill Henderson, a law professor at the University of Indiana who has been studying the legal services marketplace closely for nearly 20 years. Looking at “alternative” providers, he tells us what’s changed, what’s more or less the same, and what’s coming.

Make sure you tune in every Tuesday for everything legaltech, ALSP’s and law. 

Head to www.thefuturelawpodcast.com for more information. 

Thanks for listening! 


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November 22, 2022 27 min

In this week’s episode Dan Hunter chats with David Pierce, the Chief Commercial Officer of Axiom, an ALSP that provides legal talent in over fourteen legal practices and twenty-nine industries.. 

David tells us what it takes to be a successful ALSP, what an in-house lawyer looks like and also his thoughts on the future of legal practice.   

Make sure you tune in every Tuesday for everything legaltech, ALSPs and law. 

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The emergence of ALSPs and legaltech doesn’t change some fundamentals of lawyering and dispute resolution. Jon Harris, founder and managing partner of Harris St. Laurent & Wechsler, a boutique law firm in New York specializing in employment law and white collar criminal defense, talks with Michael Madison about blending classic legal skills and multidisciplinary experience.

Make sure you tune in every Tuesday for everything leg...

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November 8, 2022 27 min

Despite double-digit salary growth in the legal industry, many firms are grappling with serious staffing concerns.

So what do you do about it? Do you look outside your geographic boundaries? Or do you simply train up young lawyers? Alternative Legal Service Providers (ALSPs) offer a range of solutions. 

Mike Madison chats with the founders of LegalEase Solutions, Tariq Hafeez and Tariq Akbar, about their approach to delivering the ...

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What happens when established law firms get into the ALSP sector? This episode focuses on an ALSP start up called SixFifty, based in Salt Lake City, Utah, and SixFifty’s CEO, Kimball Parker

SixFifty is the product of an innovative legal services program based at the law school at Brigham Young University together with investment from Wilson Sonsini, one of the leading technology law firms in the US, headquartered in Silicon Valle...

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October 25, 2022 20 min

How familiar are you with Alternative Legal Service Providers (ALSP’s)? Do you think they’re still relevant? Or are they a bit ‘old school’? 

ALSP’s are such a big and interesting sector that we decided it deserves more than just one episode! 

This season Mike and Dan take a look at all types of ALSP’s, from independents and start up’s through to established and large scale. 

Make sure you tune in every Tuesday for everything legal...

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October 18, 2022 1 min

We're back for another season! 

Last time we looked at a pair of topics: legaltech, and skills and competencies that are newly prominent in the new legal market.

This season, we are digging into two new themes. We’ll look at ALSPs, which stands for “Alternative Legal Service Providers,” a rapidly growing and diverse market sector in legal. And we’ll also take some swings at big themes, systems, and structures in law itself, cha...

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August 22, 2022 24 min

Curiosity is the key skill that lies beneath the headlines about the future of law. Beyond new technology and leadership skills, what is curiosity and how does it matter? Curiosity can pull you out of routines. It can introduce you to new opportunities. It can help you do more for clients. What else? 

In this episode Mike chats to Lynn Borton, host of a radio show and podcast called ‘Choose To Be Curious’, about the different uses ...

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From a young age we’re taught that ‘education is the key’, but what if after years of studying in the field of law you decide to completely change direction? Will it get you ahead of it all, or have you wasted your time? 

In this special bonus episode Mike Madison chats with lawyer, investor, and author Adam Pascarella of “Reversed in Part: 15 Law School Grads on Pursuing Non-Traditional Careers” about whether law is a gateway to a...

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June 27, 2022 25 min

We’ve had many great guests on the show this season, from Hollywood movie producers to biographers and of course CEOs of tech companies. 

In this final episode Dan and Mike chat through what they’ve learnt from their guests, and what they’ve got in store for you next season.


Hosts: Dan Hunter and Mike Madison

Executive Producer: Pariya Taherzadeh 

Editor/Mixer: Pariya Taherzadeh

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You can definitely learn a thing or two from those who aren’t necessarily in the field of law.

That’s why Mike Madison chats to lawyer-turned-prize-winning-biographer John Matteson about how future lawyers draw on the talents of historians and biographers - and the reverse.



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Hosts: Dan Hunter and Mike Madison

Executive Producer: Pariya Taherzadeh 

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May 30, 2022 25 min

Starting a start up isn’t easy… or is it? 

In this episode of Future Law Podcast, Dan Hunter chats with the CEO of Checkbox.AI, Evan Wong - the automation platform provider, about life as a founder of legaltech solutions and how to break into the field.


Guest: Evan Wong

Hosts: Dan Hunter and Mike Madison

Executive Producer: Pariya Taherzadeh 

Editor/Mixer: Fyona Smith

Supervising Editor: Pariya Tahezadeh

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The legal imagination often borrows from unexpected sources, one of those being a baking show! 

Watching baking competitions inspired Freshfields senior litigation partner Tim Harkness to reflect on different models of talent management in today’s law practice. 

Mike Madison talks with Tim about his new article, “Learning from baking shows,” in the April 2022 issue of Modern Lawyer.


Guest: Tim Harkness 

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Do you think it’s time to move past “thinking like a lawyer” as the key skill set that legal experts bring to their clients’ problems? 

As legal tech gets better and better, clients increasingly want more from their counsel: problem solving capabilities for dealing with “wicked” problems.

In this episode, Mike Madison speaks to senior lawyer and  Managing Director Duc Trang at legal recruiters Major, Lindsey & Africa, about wha...

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