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June 16, 2025 20 mins

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S1 (00:03):
Welcome to Vision Australia's podcast series, designed to help children
and young people develop the skills they'll need to open
their future.

Trish (00:17):
Hello. Thanks for joining me today. My name is Trish
and I'm an occupational therapist. Have you thought about life
after high school? It might seem like a long time off,
but it will be here before you know it. Whether
you'll start work or do further study, at some point

(00:38):
you will probably leave home, and you will need to
be able to look after yourself. At this point in
time right now, do you have all the skills you
need to look after yourself? If you said no or
I'm not sure, don't worry, it's not too late to
learn those skills, but it will help to make a start.

(01:02):
And that is what this podcast is all about. We
will look at a very common scenario that many high
school students experience after they have finished their final exams,
and how you can prepare now so you can enjoy
it just as much as your friends. We also have
some guests joining us who will be sharing their experiences

(01:26):
and tips. Are you curious? Well keep listening. Being independent
means that you are able to look after yourself, your
family and your home. At the moment, you probably have
adults in your life who do most of the household
tasks like shopping, cooking, cleaning, paying bills, organising appointments and

(01:50):
other things that make life possible. Now, these adults weren't
born with the skills to do all this. They learned it,
and so can you. Now let's hear from these young
people about what being independent means to them.

Young person (02:08):
Being independent has always been important to me. It means
doing whatever I want, whenever I want, and not needing
to rely on anyone else.

young person (02:18):
To me, independence really just means confidence and being able
to do tasks confidently and with as little help as required.
Independence also is really important because it just creates a
good impression of you. If someone sees you doing a
task by yourself or with very little assistance, then they'll

(02:42):
see you as someone who's very capable. And for things
like job applications, this can be very important.

Trish (02:52):
Thanks, guys. That gives us some nice insight into how
important it is to have independent skills. Before we go
on any further, let's have a quick look at what
type of skills we are talking about when we say
independent living skills. To live as independently as you possibly can,

(03:12):
there's a long list of things you need to be
able to do. You need to be able to organise
your stuff and yourself, which also means managing your time.
You need to be able to take care of your
personal hygiene. Dress appropriately for different occasions and look after

(03:33):
your clothes, including the laundry. You need to be able
to shop and prepare food as well as know the
rules for eating out. It's also necessary to know how
to clean and do general household tasks. And last but
definitely not least, you need to know how to manage

(03:55):
your money. So I promised you a common scenario, didn't I? Okay,
here it is. Imagine you are planning with your friends
how you're going to celebrate after you finish school. You
have decided to go away for a full week. One

(04:15):
of your friends has a holiday home close to the beach. Awesome.
A well-deserved getaway and time to just hang out with
your friends. Yes, just you and your friends. No adults. Now,
that sounds okay, doesn't it? But who's going to shop

(04:36):
and who's going to cook? And yes, there is one prerequisite.
You're allowed to stay in the house on the condition
that you leave it as you find it tidy, no
breakages and fully cleaned. So I guess that means someone
has to clean. When you go away with a group

(05:01):
of friends, you don't have to be able to do
all the tasks of looking after yourself and others, but
you do need to contribute. How would it look if
all your friends were doing the shopping, the cooking and
cleaning and you were just laying around like a couch potato?
I don't think that would go down too well. So
let's go through some of the tasks that you need

(05:22):
to do in this scenario. First, there's lots of planning.
Decisions need to be made about the dates, how you'll
get there. In this scenario, you'll be flying to your destination.
What do you need to take? And if you're planning

(05:45):
to do some extracurricular activities, you might need to book
those in advance. And don't forget about the food. What's
everyone going to eat. And do you need to bring
food or are you going to buy it all when
you get there? Of course, most of these decisions need
to be made as a group, but you have some

(06:06):
thinking to do as well. How can you help with
the planning? What skills do you have right now that
could be helpful? And what skills would you need to
develop between now and then to be able to contribute
to the planning of the trip? Now remember I said
you will be catching a plane. So how will you

(06:28):
know which bag is yours when it's time to pick
it up from the baggage claim carousel? Let's hear a
tip from one of our guests.

Young person2 (06:40):
So I'm going to India quite soon, but I have
been away a fair bit. So here's my tips for
packing a bag. Firstly, pack early. Don't. Don't leave it
to the last minute. Try to pack maybe 1 or
2 days before you go. So that way you're not rushed.
The next thing you need to sort of factor in
is the layout of your bag to ensure that you

(07:01):
know where everything is. So that way you know you're
not scrambling around when you're away trying to find something
and you don't have much time. Now, another thing that
you probably haven't thought about is, well, how am I
going to find my bag once I get to the airport?
Now you might say, oh, it's a black bag. But
the thing is, there's plenty of black bags on the carousel.

(07:24):
So one way I do it is I take a
photo of the bag so the person who's helping me
can try and find it. Additionally, if you know that
you're going away in a team environment, say, and all
the team has the same bags, put an identifying marker
on it, whether that's a key tag, a ribbon, no bells,
or just something, something that you can go, okay, that's

(07:45):
my bag.

Trish (07:48):
Thanks. That's some great tips. Before we talk about what
to expect when you are in your holiday home. Let's
hear from some of our guests about some of the
experiences they've had while being away from home.

Young person (08:04):
When I was growing up, my mum had the same
expectations of me and my sister. I obviously have vision impairment.
My sister doesn't. So when I decided to go on
schoolies with my friends at the end of year 12,
I was pretty prepared. I was actually the first one
out of my friendship group to get a part time

(08:25):
job when I was in high school, so I had
money as well.

young person (08:29):
Uh, one story I have of, uh, pretty awful independent
living experiences when I was a bit younger and I
went away on a camp. I can't remember whether it
was music or sport, and I had not had any
sense of organisation whatsoever. So the Whenever I, you know,

(08:50):
put clothes on and took them off, I would just
throw them on the floor or my suitcase would just
be a pile of, of items. You know, you'd have my,
my toothbrush and my shoes and maybe one sock over
there and the other sock over there. So it was
a it was pretty horrible. And, you know, so I
really struggled to find things and of course, you don't

(09:11):
want to ask for help because that's that's pretty embarrassing.
So it was a bit of a bit of a
lesson to me about organising and making sure that you,
you know, your suitcase or your bag is organised and
and you stay organised while you're away.

Young person2 (09:25):
I have had one experience which almost resulted in me
missing a game of cricket. I was away on the camp.
Some of the other boys usually woke up a bit later,
so I decided, well, I won't disturb them by getting ready. I'll.
I'll leave it. Anyway, I had left my. I left
the room in a rather messy state. Clothes everywhere and

(09:48):
mess was all around and I actually had to rush around,
get dressed, fill up water bottle and pack all my
bag to get on this bus and I only just
made it in time. So yeah, just try to keep
organised whilst it might, you know, add a bit extra
time onto your onto the thing you're doing, you know,
just try and keep organised.

Trish (10:12):
Thanks guys. It sounds like being prepared and staying organised
helps with keeping things running smoothly. Now back to our scenario.
You've arrived. It's time to settle in and let the
fun begin. And yes, you'll have a ton of fun,
but there will be jobs that need to be done

(10:32):
that perhaps nobody really wants to do. But it's important
that everyone pulls their weight. I'm sure you've experienced at
school how frustrating it can be when you have a
group assignment and one person doesn't do much at all. Now,
you don't want to be that person. You want to

(10:53):
contribute and be an equal member of the group. There
may be jobs that you simply can't do, but that's okay.
There will be other things you can do or that
you can help with. Let me walk you through some
typical tasks that need to be done during your week
away with your friends. Some you will already be able

(11:17):
to do all of, or at least part of, and
others you may not yet be able to do it all.
It will be helpful to make two lists as we
talk through the podcast. One list of things you already
know how to do or can do part of, and
the other list of the things you would like to learn.

(11:40):
Just pause the podcast for a moment so you can
get ready to make your lists. Then when you're ready,
press play. Let's start with the food. A decision needs

(12:07):
to be made about what you're going to eat and
drink for breakfast, lunch and dinner. You also need to
plan for snacks. You'll probably eat out for some meals,
but not all. Once you've made decisions on what to
eat and drink, you need a shopping list. Take a
moment to reflect on how you can contribute to deciding

(12:29):
what to eat and drink. Are there skills that you
could start to learn now? Oh, this food part sounds expensive.
Your accommodation might not be costing you anything, but there
are certainly other costs you need to think about. You
will definitely need to do some planning and saving in advance,
and talk with your friends about how you all plan

(12:51):
to share the costs when you're away. Now take a
moment to record the things you can already do and
what you need to learn about planning and paying for food. Okay,

(13:23):
now on to preparing, cooking and eating food. Some ingredients
will need to be peeled or chopped or cleaned. Some
dishes may need to be cooked on the stove, on
a barbecue, or in an oven. Do you do any
cooking at home now? How can you contribute to the cooking?

(13:44):
How will you know where things are in the kitchen?
What can you already do? Are there skills you'd like
to start learning? While you're writing your list, let's hear
from some of our guests.

Young person (14:01):
When we're on schoolies from memory. We did eat out
a fair bit, but we did cook some meals as well.
I remember making a lot of salads also. I think
spaghetti bolognese as well because who doesn't like spaghetti?

young person (14:14):
Other things that can help someone with preparing food can
be tactile markers, you know. You know, differentiating the salt
and the pepper. For example, maybe put a tactile s
on the salt and a tactile P on the pepper. Also,
you know, I also use a few different devices, whether
that's like a talking talking scale or, you know, a

(14:36):
tactile timer. Um, it's those sorts of things that can
make cooking a lot easier for someone who is visually impaired.

Trish (14:45):
So to serve the food, you'll need cutlery, plates, cups
and glasses. Food needs to be served on the plate.
Drinks need to be poured into cups or glasses. And finally,
after the meal, dishes need to be washed, dried and
put away. You will be in a new environment where
you don't know where things are kept. What skills do

(15:06):
you already have that will help you find out where
they are? How will you be able to help serve
food and clean up afterwards? What skills would you like
to start learning right now? Now take a moment to
record the things you can already do and what you
need to learn about preparing and cleaning up after meals.

(15:32):
So we've talked about cleaning up after meal times, but
what other household chores are needed in this scenario? You
may remember that I mentioned earlier that you and your
friends were allowed to use the holiday home on the
condition that you left it clean and tidy. What does
that involve? Do you think? Well, the house probably needs

(15:54):
to be vacuumed and mopped. The beds will need to
be stripped. The bathroom, laundry and kitchen need to be
cleaned and any rubbish will need to be bagged and
put into the wheelie bins. Do you already do some
of these jobs? Could you start to help out at
home with the cleaning? Now take a moment to record

(16:15):
the things you can already do and what you need
to learn about cleaning and tidying up. Isn't it amazing
how much needs to happen for just a fun week
away with your friends? Start by choosing a task that

(16:35):
you think you can learn quite easily. Maybe you help
with it already, or you can already do part of
it if you need someone to teach you. Ask for help.
And once you've mastered the new skill, choose another one.
I used the example of going away with a group

(16:57):
of friends for a week after your final exams. To
get you to start thinking about some of the skills
you'll need to live independently. We didn't get time to
cover them all, but I hope I've given you some
ideas to start with. Let's finish with this young person's story.

Young person (17:20):
When I was in year 11, I was lucky enough
to go on space Camp, which was in the USA
with a group of students who are all vision impaired
as well. I had a great time. It was very
easy to pack my own bag and things like that,
because it's skills that I've had since I was a child.

(17:41):
I've been doing that myself. Um, definitely beneficial to practice
those kind of skills as early as possible.

young person (17:49):
Whenever I go away, it's really important that I plan.
For example, later this year I am going away to
Japan and uh, so going away to Japan, I'm planning
about a bunch of different things. You know, I have
to consider what the weather's like over there. So, you know,

(18:10):
do I have to prepare for a hot or cold
climate or, you know, a rainy or dry weather? I
also have to, you know, think about the transport, of course,
Japanese culture. And, you know, Japanese forms of transport might
be a lot different to what I'm used to. So
I have to practice saying a few Japanese words or, uh,

(18:34):
doing a lot of research online in order to to
get to know that. Also a good thing to also
point out is that there are a lot of organisations
that specifically work with visually impaired people in helping them
with traveling. So for example, there there are a few
companies that you know might help you get around an

(18:57):
airport or something, or, you know, there's a specific there's
specific apps where you can, you know, you can find
someone up and and they can, you know, pull up
a map on, on their screen and they can direct
you around an environment. So it's, it's, you know, uh,
getting better at those sort of skills and then and
then understanding, understanding what's available in, in the location that

(19:19):
you're going to.

Trish (19:21):
Thanks for sharing. There's really no limit in what you
can do. Well that's it from me today. My question
for you is what task are you going to learn?
what is one small step you can take right now
to get started? Take some time to think about these

(19:43):
questions and write your thoughts down in your notebook, your journal,
or your digital heart. E-portfolio. Selecting some goals from the
personalised checklist will also be helpful. Thanks everyone for sharing
your experiences with us and thanks for listening. See you
next time.

S6 (20:11):
Vision Australia. Blindness. Low vision. Opportunity.

Trish (20:15):
This podcast was written using the research and ideas of Julie.
A burden on independent living in ECC essentials. Teaching the
Expanded Core Curriculum to students with visual impairments. Check out
our other expanded Core curriculum Independent living Skills resources.
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