April 10, 2025 • 12 mins
Every little girl dreams about one day meticulously studying the pelvic girdles of rodents and how it affects growth, right? Eh, probably not. Yet Megan Cronje as a B.S in Biology student and RISE scholar has developed a taste for research and where it can take her in life. Learning how to probe obscure questions and present her ideas has helped her build confidence and see the possibilities.
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S1 (00:30):
Hello, welcome to another podcast for Living life at Life View.
We're doing a special research series today, and I'm your co-host,
Erin Gilligan, and I am joined by my esteemed co-host.
S2 (00:40):
Hi, guys. Welcome back. I'm Doctor Veronica Garcia, and today
we are joined by a super interesting student that wears
a lot of hats at Life University, miss Megan Cronin. Welcome. Hi.
How are you?
S3 (00:52):
I'm good. How are you?
S2 (00:53):
I'm so happy to have you. I'm so excited for
us to be talking a little bit about your student life,
but also a little bit of your athletic life, sprinkled
it in and your research life, which is a whole
nother hat.
S3 (01:05):
Not many.
S2 (01:05):
People wear. So let's start with, um, what program you're
in and how far into the program you're in.
S3 (01:11):
All right, so I'm a bio major, BSc bio. Uh,
this is my sophomore year, my second year, but I'm
actually planning to finish in three years. So after this quarter,
I'll be a junior. As far as credits go. Wow.
S2 (01:23):
So you are sprinting?
S3 (01:25):
Yeah.
S2 (01:26):
And with sprinting, you're also an athlete at Life University.
Tell us, um, what athletics are you a part of?
S3 (01:32):
Yeah. So I'm on the Life University swim team. This
is my second year competing, and I'm actually team captain
right now. One of four. Wow. Um. And. Yeah, so
we recently had our conference last week, actually, which was
our big meet at the end of the year. And
then we got nationals in like the next three weeks.
I'm not sure if I've qualified yet. We'll find out
on Thursday.
S2 (01:51):
Yeah.
S3 (01:52):
But yeah.
S1 (01:53):
That that's very exciting.
S2 (01:54):
So many hats and is also the team lead. Okay.
All right.
S1 (01:59):
So when did you start swimming? Initially.
S3 (02:01):
So I actually my mom put me in swimming before
I could even walk. Like, it was one of her
rules that I had to swim before I went to school. Um,
so I knew how to swim from for as long
as I can remember, but it was just like an
extra mural thing. Like after school, we would go swimming for, like,
30 minutes and then go home and do homework. And
then when I was, uh, 8 or 9, I tried
(02:21):
out for the swim team, and I hated it at school.
So I actually didn't compete for a couple of years.
And then when I turned 12 or 13, I started
club swimming, and then I was actually competitive.
S1 (02:31):
Okay.
S2 (02:32):
Yeah. And then it's been just that ride ever since.
S3 (02:34):
Yeah.
S2 (02:35):
Yeah.
S1 (02:36):
That's great. And that's a good long time to be
doing a sport. Yeah. It's fantastic.
S2 (02:40):
So why biology?
S3 (02:41):
Why biology? Well, the truth is, when I started, I
actually had no idea what I wanted to do. Yeah.
S2 (02:47):
That's fair.
S3 (02:48):
I did know I was very interested in human movement
as an athlete, obviously. Um, and then I was really
good in, like, physics and bio in high school, so
I figured I could I could figure this out. Yeah. Um,
and then I started, actually, the fact that I came
here was Tom. I wasn't planning, but after I got recruited,
I came and then found out how good the exercise
department was. Um, so a lot of my electors are are, uh,
(03:10):
sport health science.
S2 (03:11):
Um.
S3 (03:12):
Um, but it actually worked quite nicely, like the major
with the sport health science electives afterwards.
S4 (03:17):
Yeah. That's awesome. So since you're on.
S1 (03:19):
This accelerated path to finish up, what are your plans after?
Is it more school or.
S3 (03:24):
Probably.
S1 (03:25):
Probably.
S3 (03:25):
I'm planning on doing a masters right now. It's not decided, but. Yeah.
And then after that. Well, I'm hoping the research thing
sticks around. So.
S1 (03:34):
Yeah. That's great.
S2 (03:35):
So you love the research thing?
S3 (03:36):
I do.
S2 (03:37):
Let's talk about the research thing then. What inspired you
and where? Let's start with what inspired you to even
start research.
S3 (03:43):
Um, so I've always been a very hands on learner. Um,
if I don't understand something, I'll take it upon myself.
I'll go Google or I'll go try something, or I'll
ask people about it. Um, I was never very good
at memorizing. So those kind of courses are not my favorite.
But yeah, anything, anything where I can solve problems, where
I can actively look for the answers that aren't already there.
It was always it was always enjoyable for me. So
(04:06):
I guess I didn't go out to find research, but
when it fell into place, I was like, you know what? Yeah,
this works for me.
S4 (04:13):
Yeah, yeah.
S2 (04:14):
Your brain is designed that way. Yeah.
S1 (04:17):
I love that finding the answers that aren't readily out there.
You know, that you can't just aren't readily discernible. You
have to search for. And that's fantastic. So what is
your research now involved in what kind of field.
S3 (04:28):
So the short answer is rat bones.
S2 (04:31):
Okay. Um, yeah. The long answer. Yeah.
S3 (04:34):
So what we're doing right now is I'm under obviously
Doctor Andrew McIntosh, thank goodness. He's literally my guide. Um,
but so we're looking at CT scans of different rodents. Um,
he's done this kind of research in the past, but
I'm focusing more on pelvic and shoulder girdles and essentially
the differences in movement that that makes on bone structure.
(04:55):
So within rodents there's there's quadrupeds, there's bipedal, there's people
that climb trees, you know, so it's interesting to see
how all the different movements affect this. And then also
related to the pelvic and shoulder girdles, because historically, um,
they evolve kind of at the same time. But obviously
as soon as you become bipedal then it's a bit different.
(05:16):
So seeing like the differentiation and when it happened and
how it happened based on the environment and all of
that kind of stuff.
S1 (05:23):
So we're wrapping something you thought about before you got
to life.
S3 (05:26):
Absolutely not.
S4 (05:28):
Definitely not.
S2 (05:29):
Did you ever had a pet rodent?
S3 (05:31):
I did not, surprisingly.
S2 (05:33):
Okay. All right, so we're this is just a later
development of interest, and now we love it. Yes, I
love that. And where in where in your, um, research stage.
You are.
S3 (05:46):
Pretty early. Um, we're still gathering data right now. I
think I've only done, I want to say, like, maybe
20 t scans, I'm busy putting in landmarks, so just
gathering all the data, putting it together. Um, so no
initial findings yet, but yeah, we're getting there.
S2 (06:03):
That's what research is about.
S1 (06:05):
Yeah.
S2 (06:05):
Yeah, it's the patience and the doing and the seeing
and the analyzing. I'm like, oh hold on, how did
I miss this? And then coming back and going forward,
it's a beautiful it's a beautiful journey. It's really awesome. Yeah.
That's really cool.
S1 (06:16):
And you're also involved with Tribeca. Is that correct?
S3 (06:18):
Yes I.
S1 (06:18):
Am. Can you tell us a little bit about that organization?
S3 (06:20):
So, um, it was also another thing that just kind
of happened that I didn't plan on happening. But in
my freshman year, when I approached doctor McIntosh about research,
he was saying, okay, well, I'm planning on starting, well,
integrating a tri beta chapter here on campus. So it
was the first time we had Tribeca on campus. And
(06:40):
it's essentially for biological researchers, specifically undergrad. It's a huge network.
We have access to different resources, different alumni, just people
to help guide you in the right direction. I believe
they even have their own publishing paper, which is pretty cool. Yeah. Um,
but yeah. And he was like, well, I want to
install a chapter here at Lifeview. Would you be interested?
And I was so I think there were about seven
(07:02):
of us. Um, and we all kind of signed our
names and got initiated and it was like, oh, this
is a thing now. And it was just awesome.
S1 (07:10):
Yeah.
S3 (07:10):
Yeah. Yeah. So inaugural members. That was fun.
S1 (07:13):
Wow.
S2 (07:14):
Really awesome.
S1 (07:14):
It's fantastic.
S2 (07:15):
So what what does tribe do in the university if
someone is interested in joining? Yes. What do they do?
How can they get involved right now?
S3 (07:24):
So the easiest way is to reach out to doctor McIntosh.
Or if you know someone who's in tribal. They can
direct you, put you in the right direction. Um, and
then our numbers are very small right now. So if
you're a bio student and you're into research, you're basically
going to get in, right? Um, but yeah, no, it's
it's a really great resource. Like, there's lots of conferences
(07:45):
that you can attend. Um.
S1 (07:47):
And you'll be attending one of those conferences in the future.
S3 (07:50):
Yeah.
S1 (07:50):
Is that right?
S3 (07:51):
Yeah. I'm planning. Funding. I think it's two weeks time.
It's March 12th to 15th.
S2 (07:55):
Okay.
S3 (07:56):
I'm hoping. I'm hoping to go to Myrtle Beach for
the conference there.
S1 (07:59):
Yeah. Very nice. We'll be presenting.
S3 (08:02):
Yes. Just a poster, not a talk.
S1 (08:03):
But that's so fantastic.
S2 (08:05):
Yeah, it's still very. Yes. Yeah. Don't. Don't bring it down.
It's really important. That's really awesome. Congratulations. Thank you. Yeah. So,
are you presenting the poster on your rodents? Yep.
S3 (08:16):
That's the plan.
S2 (08:17):
That's really cool. So, um, knowing that you are in
the earlier stages of research, what is your hypothesis? What
are you. What are you planning? What is the question
that you're planning to answer?
S3 (08:28):
So, um, it's not necessarily one specific question. It's more
just looking at the differences. But I'm I'm very curious
to see how a rodent moves will affect its bone structure,
like specifically the pelvic and the girdles. Um, like, for example,
the ones that I've seen already are quite varied. I'm
busy looking at shoulder girdles, so some of them are
(08:50):
a lot smaller. Some of them are bigger, allow for
more movement or like more under you or next to
you like. It's just interesting to see the differences and
then applying those later to see how the evolutionary process
might have happened. Yeah, yeah.
S2 (09:04):
And answering those questions, which I think it's always a mystery, right.
At least in my mind.
S1 (09:10):
So curious what kind of resources at Life University you
found have been able to help you in your journey
to develop as a researcher?
S3 (09:17):
So the the biggest one. Let's talk money. Um, was
the Rise scholarship. I honestly probably wouldn't even be here
without it, so. But that was really, really nice to
be able to apply for that and then use my
interest to help fund my schooling. Yeah. Um, and then
on top of that, the software that we have in
the computers in the lab, I that's how I'm doing
(09:40):
my research. So if I didn't have that, I'd have
to go out and buy computers and buy software and
all of that. It's already here, so that makes it
a lot easier. Um, I don't know if Doctor Macintosh
has it for him specifically or if it was in
the department, but the access to the CT scans, that
was also really, really nice to use. And then I
I'm still waiting on that one actually, but I've applied
(10:02):
for travel grants as well, which is another thing I
would not be able to afford to travel without it.
So that was really, really, really nice. And then obviously
the faculty, you know, the mentorship, the the resources that
I can go and ask if I'm confused or if
I have no idea what I'm doing, which I didn't
when I started, um, literally helped me learn how to
do research.
S1 (10:22):
Right? I think having this conversation talking about this is
so important to knowing what kind of resources there are
available to students, faculty, and staff on campus. Yeah, and
there's a lot of that there. And like I said,
the Rise scholarship is definitely something that's really supports the
student research. Um, in all those areas, research, um, and
scholarly endeavors. So so I'm glad to see it's going
(10:46):
to good use. Definitely.
S2 (10:47):
Yeah. It's so important. And I love that this is
a passion that found you and a calling that found you,
but also to know that the university has gone above
and beyond, whether they know it or not, to provide
those resources and provide, hey, this is the next step
and I can help you get to that next step.
That is such a huge piece because a lot of
times we we have the calling, we see the final
(11:10):
step and we're like, okay, where do I even start? Right. Right.
But to have someone like doctor McIntosh or other faculty
members or people in the research department that are allowed
to say, hey, let's just break it down. Like, let's
work out. Let's work our way backwards and break it
down to, to get you to that goal and also
have different routes because things are going to come up
at some point. Right. And so it's really nice to
hear and to see that this might not have been
(11:31):
the plan at the beginning, but it is developing in
such a rhythmic and harmonic way. It looks like that
you've been called to this and I'm like, this is
you're and the way that you talk about it with
such passion and joy, and your eyes are smiling and
your mouth is smiling and everything is just happy. I
love seeing I love seeing this experience. This is really awesome. Yeah. Congratulations.
(11:53):
Thank you. Yeah. Yeah. Well, thank you so much for
being here. Good luck. Thank you. On on athletics. Good luck.
And and your athletic your accelerated program. Good luck in research.
Good luck with the next steps. And enjoy life. Just
I just have to say it and enjoy life because
it looks like you're already enjoying it. So keep enjoying it.
(12:14):
That's amazing. That's the plan.
S3 (12:15):
Very good.
S2 (12:17):
Well, thank you so much for your time. Good luck
on all the things that you do, and we'll hopefully
see you back with a little with a little snippet
of what's been going on. Maybe in about a year,
kind of. Maybe I'm gonna.
S1 (12:27):
Put.
S2 (12:27):
That out into the universe. Yeah, I love that. Well,
good luck, honey. Take care and we'll see you guys
on the next episode of Living Life at Life. You
take care.
S5 (12:36):
Bye.
Hello, welcome to another podcast for Living life at Life View.
We're doing a special research series today, and I'm your co-host,
Erin Gilligan, and I am joined by my esteemed co-host.
S2 (00:40):
Hi, guys. Welcome back. I'm Doctor Veronica Garcia, and today
we are joined by a super interesting student that wears
a lot of hats at Life University, miss Megan Cronin. Welcome. Hi.
How are you?
S3 (00:52):
I'm good. How are you?
S2 (00:53):
I'm so happy to have you. I'm so excited for
us to be talking a little bit about your student life,
but also a little bit of your athletic life, sprinkled
it in and your research life, which is a whole
nother hat.
S3 (01:05):
Not many.
S2 (01:05):
People wear. So let's start with, um, what program you're
in and how far into the program you're in.
S3 (01:11):
All right, so I'm a bio major, BSc bio. Uh,
this is my sophomore year, my second year, but I'm
actually planning to finish in three years. So after this quarter,
I'll be a junior. As far as credits go. Wow.
S2 (01:23):
So you are sprinting?
S3 (01:25):
Yeah.
S2 (01:26):
And with sprinting, you're also an athlete at Life University.
Tell us, um, what athletics are you a part of?
S3 (01:32):
Yeah. So I'm on the Life University swim team. This
is my second year competing, and I'm actually team captain
right now. One of four. Wow. Um. And. Yeah, so
we recently had our conference last week, actually, which was
our big meet at the end of the year. And
then we got nationals in like the next three weeks.
I'm not sure if I've qualified yet. We'll find out
on Thursday.
S2 (01:51):
Yeah.
S3 (01:52):
But yeah.
S1 (01:53):
That that's very exciting.
S2 (01:54):
So many hats and is also the team lead. Okay.
All right.
S1 (01:59):
So when did you start swimming? Initially.
S3 (02:01):
So I actually my mom put me in swimming before
I could even walk. Like, it was one of her
rules that I had to swim before I went to school. Um,
so I knew how to swim from for as long
as I can remember, but it was just like an
extra mural thing. Like after school, we would go swimming for, like,
30 minutes and then go home and do homework. And
then when I was, uh, 8 or 9, I tried
(02:21):
out for the swim team, and I hated it at school.
So I actually didn't compete for a couple of years.
And then when I turned 12 or 13, I started
club swimming, and then I was actually competitive.
S1 (02:31):
Okay.
S2 (02:32):
Yeah. And then it's been just that ride ever since.
S3 (02:34):
Yeah.
S2 (02:35):
Yeah.
S1 (02:36):
That's great. And that's a good long time to be
doing a sport. Yeah. It's fantastic.
S2 (02:40):
So why biology?
S3 (02:41):
Why biology? Well, the truth is, when I started, I
actually had no idea what I wanted to do. Yeah.
S2 (02:47):
That's fair.
S3 (02:48):
I did know I was very interested in human movement
as an athlete, obviously. Um, and then I was really
good in, like, physics and bio in high school, so
I figured I could I could figure this out. Yeah. Um,
and then I started, actually, the fact that I came
here was Tom. I wasn't planning, but after I got recruited,
I came and then found out how good the exercise
department was. Um, so a lot of my electors are are, uh,
(03:10):
sport health science.
S2 (03:11):
Um.
S3 (03:12):
Um, but it actually worked quite nicely, like the major
with the sport health science electives afterwards.
S4 (03:17):
Yeah. That's awesome. So since you're on.
S1 (03:19):
This accelerated path to finish up, what are your plans after?
Is it more school or.
S3 (03:24):
Probably.
S1 (03:25):
Probably.
S3 (03:25):
I'm planning on doing a masters right now. It's not decided, but. Yeah.
And then after that. Well, I'm hoping the research thing
sticks around. So.
S1 (03:34):
Yeah. That's great.
S2 (03:35):
So you love the research thing?
S3 (03:36):
I do.
S2 (03:37):
Let's talk about the research thing then. What inspired you
and where? Let's start with what inspired you to even
start research.
S3 (03:43):
Um, so I've always been a very hands on learner. Um,
if I don't understand something, I'll take it upon myself.
I'll go Google or I'll go try something, or I'll
ask people about it. Um, I was never very good
at memorizing. So those kind of courses are not my favorite.
But yeah, anything, anything where I can solve problems, where
I can actively look for the answers that aren't already there.
It was always it was always enjoyable for me. So
(04:06):
I guess I didn't go out to find research, but
when it fell into place, I was like, you know what? Yeah,
this works for me.
S4 (04:13):
Yeah, yeah.
S2 (04:14):
Your brain is designed that way. Yeah.
S1 (04:17):
I love that finding the answers that aren't readily out there.
You know, that you can't just aren't readily discernible. You
have to search for. And that's fantastic. So what is
your research now involved in what kind of field.
S3 (04:28):
So the short answer is rat bones.
S2 (04:31):
Okay. Um, yeah. The long answer. Yeah.
S3 (04:34):
So what we're doing right now is I'm under obviously
Doctor Andrew McIntosh, thank goodness. He's literally my guide. Um,
but so we're looking at CT scans of different rodents. Um,
he's done this kind of research in the past, but
I'm focusing more on pelvic and shoulder girdles and essentially
the differences in movement that that makes on bone structure.
(04:55):
So within rodents there's there's quadrupeds, there's bipedal, there's people
that climb trees, you know, so it's interesting to see
how all the different movements affect this. And then also
related to the pelvic and shoulder girdles, because historically, um,
they evolve kind of at the same time. But obviously
as soon as you become bipedal then it's a bit different.
(05:16):
So seeing like the differentiation and when it happened and
how it happened based on the environment and all of
that kind of stuff.
S1 (05:23):
So we're wrapping something you thought about before you got
to life.
S3 (05:26):
Absolutely not.
S4 (05:28):
Definitely not.
S2 (05:29):
Did you ever had a pet rodent?
S3 (05:31):
I did not, surprisingly.
S2 (05:33):
Okay. All right, so we're this is just a later
development of interest, and now we love it. Yes, I
love that. And where in where in your, um, research stage.
You are.
S3 (05:46):
Pretty early. Um, we're still gathering data right now. I
think I've only done, I want to say, like, maybe
20 t scans, I'm busy putting in landmarks, so just
gathering all the data, putting it together. Um, so no
initial findings yet, but yeah, we're getting there.
S2 (06:03):
That's what research is about.
S1 (06:05):
Yeah.
S2 (06:05):
Yeah, it's the patience and the doing and the seeing
and the analyzing. I'm like, oh hold on, how did
I miss this? And then coming back and going forward,
it's a beautiful it's a beautiful journey. It's really awesome. Yeah.
That's really cool.
S1 (06:16):
And you're also involved with Tribeca. Is that correct?
S3 (06:18):
Yes I.
S1 (06:18):
Am. Can you tell us a little bit about that organization?
S3 (06:20):
So, um, it was also another thing that just kind
of happened that I didn't plan on happening. But in
my freshman year, when I approached doctor McIntosh about research,
he was saying, okay, well, I'm planning on starting, well,
integrating a tri beta chapter here on campus. So it
was the first time we had Tribeca on campus. And
(06:40):
it's essentially for biological researchers, specifically undergrad. It's a huge network.
We have access to different resources, different alumni, just people
to help guide you in the right direction. I believe
they even have their own publishing paper, which is pretty cool. Yeah. Um,
but yeah. And he was like, well, I want to
install a chapter here at Lifeview. Would you be interested?
And I was so I think there were about seven
(07:02):
of us. Um, and we all kind of signed our
names and got initiated and it was like, oh, this
is a thing now. And it was just awesome.
S1 (07:10):
Yeah.
S3 (07:10):
Yeah. Yeah. So inaugural members. That was fun.
S1 (07:13):
Wow.
S2 (07:14):
Really awesome.
S1 (07:14):
It's fantastic.
S2 (07:15):
So what what does tribe do in the university if
someone is interested in joining? Yes. What do they do?
How can they get involved right now?
S3 (07:24):
So the easiest way is to reach out to doctor McIntosh.
Or if you know someone who's in tribal. They can
direct you, put you in the right direction. Um, and
then our numbers are very small right now. So if
you're a bio student and you're into research, you're basically
going to get in, right? Um, but yeah, no, it's
it's a really great resource. Like, there's lots of conferences
(07:45):
that you can attend. Um.
S1 (07:47):
And you'll be attending one of those conferences in the future.
S3 (07:50):
Yeah.
S1 (07:50):
Is that right?
S3 (07:51):
Yeah. I'm planning. Funding. I think it's two weeks time.
It's March 12th to 15th.
S2 (07:55):
Okay.
S3 (07:56):
I'm hoping. I'm hoping to go to Myrtle Beach for
the conference there.
S1 (07:59):
Yeah. Very nice. We'll be presenting.
S3 (08:02):
Yes. Just a poster, not a talk.
S1 (08:03):
But that's so fantastic.
S2 (08:05):
Yeah, it's still very. Yes. Yeah. Don't. Don't bring it down.
It's really important. That's really awesome. Congratulations. Thank you. Yeah. So,
are you presenting the poster on your rodents? Yep.
S3 (08:16):
That's the plan.
S2 (08:17):
That's really cool. So, um, knowing that you are in
the earlier stages of research, what is your hypothesis? What
are you. What are you planning? What is the question
that you're planning to answer?
S3 (08:28):
So, um, it's not necessarily one specific question. It's more
just looking at the differences. But I'm I'm very curious
to see how a rodent moves will affect its bone structure,
like specifically the pelvic and the girdles. Um, like, for example,
the ones that I've seen already are quite varied. I'm
busy looking at shoulder girdles, so some of them are
(08:50):
a lot smaller. Some of them are bigger, allow for
more movement or like more under you or next to
you like. It's just interesting to see the differences and
then applying those later to see how the evolutionary process
might have happened. Yeah, yeah.
S2 (09:04):
And answering those questions, which I think it's always a mystery, right.
At least in my mind.
S1 (09:10):
So curious what kind of resources at Life University you
found have been able to help you in your journey
to develop as a researcher?
S3 (09:17):
So the the biggest one. Let's talk money. Um, was
the Rise scholarship. I honestly probably wouldn't even be here
without it, so. But that was really, really nice to
be able to apply for that and then use my
interest to help fund my schooling. Yeah. Um, and then
on top of that, the software that we have in
the computers in the lab, I that's how I'm doing
(09:40):
my research. So if I didn't have that, I'd have
to go out and buy computers and buy software and
all of that. It's already here, so that makes it
a lot easier. Um, I don't know if Doctor Macintosh
has it for him specifically or if it was in
the department, but the access to the CT scans, that
was also really, really nice to use. And then I
I'm still waiting on that one actually, but I've applied
(10:02):
for travel grants as well, which is another thing I
would not be able to afford to travel without it.
So that was really, really, really nice. And then obviously
the faculty, you know, the mentorship, the the resources that
I can go and ask if I'm confused or if
I have no idea what I'm doing, which I didn't
when I started, um, literally helped me learn how to
do research.
S1 (10:22):
Right? I think having this conversation talking about this is
so important to knowing what kind of resources there are
available to students, faculty, and staff on campus. Yeah, and
there's a lot of that there. And like I said,
the Rise scholarship is definitely something that's really supports the
student research. Um, in all those areas, research, um, and
scholarly endeavors. So so I'm glad to see it's going
(10:46):
to good use. Definitely.
S2 (10:47):
Yeah. It's so important. And I love that this is
a passion that found you and a calling that found you,
but also to know that the university has gone above
and beyond, whether they know it or not, to provide
those resources and provide, hey, this is the next step
and I can help you get to that next step.
That is such a huge piece because a lot of
times we we have the calling, we see the final
(11:10):
step and we're like, okay, where do I even start? Right. Right.
But to have someone like doctor McIntosh or other faculty
members or people in the research department that are allowed
to say, hey, let's just break it down. Like, let's
work out. Let's work our way backwards and break it
down to, to get you to that goal and also
have different routes because things are going to come up
at some point. Right. And so it's really nice to
hear and to see that this might not have been
(11:31):
the plan at the beginning, but it is developing in
such a rhythmic and harmonic way. It looks like that
you've been called to this and I'm like, this is
you're and the way that you talk about it with
such passion and joy, and your eyes are smiling and
your mouth is smiling and everything is just happy. I
love seeing I love seeing this experience. This is really awesome. Yeah. Congratulations.
(11:53):
Thank you. Yeah. Yeah. Well, thank you so much for
being here. Good luck. Thank you. On on athletics. Good luck.
And and your athletic your accelerated program. Good luck in research.
Good luck with the next steps. And enjoy life. Just
I just have to say it and enjoy life because
it looks like you're already enjoying it. So keep enjoying it.
(12:14):
That's amazing. That's the plan.
S3 (12:15):
Very good.
S2 (12:17):
Well, thank you so much for your time. Good luck
on all the things that you do, and we'll hopefully
see you back with a little with a little snippet
of what's been going on. Maybe in about a year,
kind of. Maybe I'm gonna.
S1 (12:27):
Put.
S2 (12:27):
That out into the universe. Yeah, I love that. Well,
good luck, honey. Take care and we'll see you guys
on the next episode of Living Life at Life. You
take care.
S5 (12:36):
Bye.
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