July 11, 2025 • 13 mins
In a university heavily devoted to the sciences, it’s important to remember to take joy in other aspects of art and academia. Charles Farmer is an Assistant Professor of English at Life University. He teaches composition and literature courses, as well as LFS 105, Academic Strategies. He also writes about music and poetry for several Georgia publications. He is currently writing a book about DB Records, the independent Atlanta music label that helped give birth to new wave, punk, and other left-of-the-dial sounds.
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S1 (00:30):
Hi guys, welcome to Living Life, a Lifeview podcast. I
am your host, Doctor Veronica Garcia, and today I am
joined by a faculty member of our undergraduate, um, studies, Mr.
Charlie Farmer. Hi. Hello. How are you?
S2 (00:44):
I'm fantastic. Thanks for inviting me.
S1 (00:46):
I'm so excited to have you here. I'm so excited
to shine a light a little bit more into our undergraduate,
but also the intricacies and the specialness and the ruby
that you are. So I'm really excited to go and
dive deep in. So, um, tell me what courses you're
teaching right now at Life University.
S2 (01:03):
Right now, this quarter, we're doing, um, critical thinking and
transitional reading and transitional English.
S1 (01:09):
Okay. So everything in English itself. Okay. Um, what inspired
you to become an English professor?
S2 (01:15):
Uh, years ago, when I was an undergrad, my first
job was a student assistant in the English department. And
so I just fell in love with being around people
who love books and love to read and love to write.
And so once I got sort of immersed in that,
I never wanted to leave the English department or the
college campus. And so I love reading. I love writing, uh,
(01:35):
anything with with the written word. And so it just
seems like a great place to be.
S1 (01:40):
That's awesome. Did you do your undergrad in English?
S2 (01:43):
I did, so I started I was a journalism major
and then fell under the spell of poetry and novels and, um,
went that way instead.
S3 (01:52):
I love that. Where'd you go to school?
S2 (01:54):
Uh, I started at Macon State and then transferred to
Georgia College in Milledgeville. And so I got my undergrad
and graduate degree there.
S1 (02:01):
Nice. And graduate degrees. You have a master's as well? Yes.
That's awesome.
S2 (02:05):
In English.
S1 (02:06):
In English?
S2 (02:06):
Yeah. So I did my master's thesis on the lineage
between Walt Walt Whitman and Woody Guthrie and Bob Dylan.
S1 (02:13):
Okay.
S2 (02:14):
Yeah.
S1 (02:14):
That's a that's amazing. Yeah. So tell me. Okay. How
long have you been at Life University?
S2 (02:20):
Five years.
S1 (02:20):
Five years has been your experience.
S2 (02:22):
It's been great. I mean, I've been at other schools
and I know this is a live podcast, but really,
this is my favorite place I've been. So just colleague wise,
student wise, it's been fantastic.
S3 (02:31):
That's awesome.
S1 (02:31):
And we are we're a smaller institution. Tell me, did
you have an opportunity to teach other levels besides college,
or have you ever always stayed around just college?
S2 (02:40):
So I didn't think I could handle anyone below a
college age. Now I have a four year old daughter
and so now I understand. Yeah, little people can be
fantastic too, but it's always from college.
S1 (02:52):
That's awesome. And you mentioned that you've been at other colleges.
Tell me a little bit about those changes. Why why
Life University has been your favorite place?
S2 (03:01):
I think it's the students. It's like the international pool.
I mean, I think we have, um, this sense of
there is another side of the world, right? But I
think here you realize that we do. And I think
that's a great chance for students to meet people from
all walks of life. Um, you can quickly burn away
those prejudices and those preconceived notions and those expectations of
(03:22):
people when you meet, when you meet them.
S3 (03:23):
Mhm. I love that. That's really cool.
S1 (03:26):
This is, this is as a person that came in
straight from a different country when I first got here
and I started, I remember my very first class was
actually an English class because I came in as a
transfer of undergrad and first class ever was an English class.
I know exactly the room where it was. It was
down this hallway at the very end towards Socrates Cafe.
I was terrified, but for some reason it was a
(03:48):
terrified that I was like, oh, this is this is
kind of homey. This is nice. Um, I still miss
my language and my people and my cooking, but I
can make this at home. So to hear you say
that also from that faculty perspective, you see that you
experience that with the students is really refreshing.
S2 (04:04):
I just think the students coming here are so lucky
for that, especially if they're from Middle Georgia or I'd
say from middle Georgia, if they're from Georgia or the South.
And just instantly, um, immersed in culture, they didn't expect
to be face to face with. You know, maybe the
humanities don't matter as much, just sort of, you know,
if you can't count it, it doesn't count kind of thing. Um,
(04:27):
I think my big job here is to how can
I make people understand that, you know, writing is important,
reading is still important. And that's sort of the frustration
that I have. Um, sometimes.
S3 (04:39):
Okay, I love that.
S1 (04:40):
And I see, you know, with the beautifulness of growth
and change and, and I and all these things I do,
I'm very passionate about it. This is such an important
piece of our development. And to see now kids kind
of growing up in a different scenario where there's different
words that, you know, like, I have no idea how
(05:02):
you write this because it's automatically fixed when I make
the mistake. Yeah, it's really interesting. And for me, this
is very special to my heart because my mom is
an English teacher. Um, so to see that that shift
and that change, tell me, um, you've been a professor
for over five years, I assume.
S2 (05:16):
I've been teaching since 2001.
S1 (05:18):
Okay, so you've seen a huge shift and change. Tell me.
Tell me a little bit about what those pros that
you've seen, but also those things that you wish that
will be better shifted.
S2 (05:28):
I think it's been like a big pro, as I've
seen in just essays across the board, whether it be,
you know, in what we consider student writing or professional essays,
is sort of the embrace of the first person. I
know that was a no no. It was to bring
in the first person to your essays. And I totally
encourage that, because I think if you can bring in
first person experience, you know, anecdotes, examples, testimonials, the thing
that makes the writing that much better and you're much
(05:49):
more invested in it in terms of, um, what gets,
you know, thumbs down. Obviously. Like I has been like
the big issue, um, the whole push towards, like a
frictionless existence where if it's difficult, I can just get
an app for that and it takes care of it.
Whether it's essay writing or making friends, dating, ordering food,
anything like that. I mean, I think a life well
(06:10):
lived requires friction and difficulty and rigor, and we're getting
away from that. And that's that's really frustrating.
S3 (06:16):
Mhm.
S1 (06:16):
That's a beautiful way to say that I love that.
I like that friction does develop change.
S2 (06:22):
It forces you.
S1 (06:23):
To grow and.
S3 (06:24):
Change.
S2 (06:24):
Yeah I mean there's I'm very shy and like but
to be thrown out of my comfort zone is essential right.
I think that's how we all grow.
S3 (06:31):
Exactly.
S2 (06:32):
If we just are constantly greeted by, you know, a
head nod and a yes and an A, I don't
think that's going to be. Yeah. No one's going to
want an employee or marry you or hang out with you.
S3 (06:41):
Yeah. Yeah. Wow.
S1 (06:43):
I'm. I'm just in awe. I love the way that
you just phrased that and said that. Um, with that,
I understand that you're also writing a book.
S2 (06:51):
I do.
S1 (06:51):
So tell me a little bit more.
S2 (06:52):
So I said I majored in journalism and didn't do
that anymore, but I still I write that way. Um,
I write for music magazines. That's. Music's my big thing too.
S3 (07:01):
Mhm.
S2 (07:02):
Um, and writing a book about DB records, which was
this label that was started in 1978, in Atlanta by
Danny Beard, who owns a record store called wax, in fact,
in little Five Points.
S3 (07:13):
Mhm.
S2 (07:14):
Um, he was a student in Athens in the 70s
and graduated, came back to, to Atlanta in 76 and
opened Wax and Fax. But we'd go back to Athens
to see bands. And he came across the band The B-52's,
which were brand new at the time.
S3 (07:29):
Okay.
S2 (07:30):
And uh, was blown away and decided to put out
their first record. And of course, the rest. You know,
for those unfamiliar with B-52's, they were a big deal.
I mean, um, when I was a kid, my first
exposure to them was the song Love Shack. That was
kind of their comeback, and that was a huge song. Yeah,
but they'd had this sort of prehistory. Um, so he
put out their single Rock lobster, and then he put
(07:51):
out some records by Pylon Love tractor, uh, swimming pool cues,
the windbreakers. So a ton of other bands. But the
label was important because it was the first sort of
like DIY, do it yourself? Punk new wave label from
the South? I think that sort of set the template
for a lot of labels to follow.
S1 (08:08):
Hmm. That's so interesting.
S2 (08:10):
And so I really want to. I think he deserves
some exposure. I think the bands have gotten their heyday,
but I really think Danny has done just an amazing job,
and I want to make sure that, you know, his
story is told and the bands too, because, I mean,
a lot of them aren't household names these days, but
I think talking about them sort of recalibrates what we
consider success. I think right now we consider success being
(08:32):
like enormous wealth or just omnipresence. Right? You're there. You're
just famous for being there. But these people were famous.
They were successful because they made music and they they
expressed themselves on their own. They did it themselves. They
tore themselves and they put out records by themselves. I
think that's really neat.
S1 (08:50):
That's really awesome. That's a special story for sure. And
I think that that will bring shining a light into
that story will also, and exposing it hopefully to the
right hands and to the right reader. It'll also encourage
them that there's there's also a different pathway.
S2 (09:05):
Yeah. I mean again like again they aren't household names
but they inspire people to also be in bands. And
it doesn't mean you have to be successful. It means
that you're doing something on your own.
S1 (09:13):
Mhm.
S2 (09:14):
I remember being like 18 and going to maybe 19
going to Atlanta. And the only shows I've been to
are like big rock and roll shows at like Lakewood Amphitheater.
So even if you're like front row you're there's this
like 50ft gulf between you and the band. Mhm. I
remember going to a show at this place called the
Echo Lounge. It's no longer there. And I was in
the crowd. The show was about to start and there's
(09:34):
this guy in the crowd. Just looks super cool. Mhm.
And the band was like hey get up on stage.
And he gets up on stage and behind the drum
set starts playing. I thought like that's amazing. I was
like right there. So I mean that was just like
licensed to do it.
S1 (09:50):
Mhm. That's awesome.
S2 (09:51):
Yeah. So anyway like that kind of experience made me
think like I could do it too. I could be
in a band. Yeah. And so I was and we
put out records and tours and did the same thing.
But like I'm not a huge music, a music artist,
but like, I did what I wanted to do and
I did it. So.
S1 (10:08):
And you loved.
S2 (10:09):
It. Yeah. I got to see the country and tour
and write songs and people put them out. And, you know,
I made it my own way, just like these other
bands did too.
S1 (10:18):
That's amazing. What did you play?
S2 (10:20):
Uh, guitar in and sing.
S1 (10:23):
That's amazing. Okay, so how do you involve if. Anyway, um,
your passion for music, uh, into your classroom, if any way.
S2 (10:33):
Uh, sometimes I'll bring in, like, writing samples, because the
final project for my one on one class is to
write a profile essay about a family member. My dad
died in, um, in 2020, and I thought I knew him,
but I think I realized I didn't know him as
well as I should have. And so for my students,
I want them to interview someone in their family that
(10:54):
like to get to know. And so one of the
things I do is bring in some of my profiles
from from musicians. And they can use those as like
Site templates.
S1 (11:03):
Wow, that's really special. That's a that's a beautiful I
can't I kind of want to go to that to
that at least final project.
S2 (11:11):
That sounds I mean, the last, uh, you know, the
last quarters were just fantastic. I was trying to read them,
and it just I was tearing up. I was like,
this is incredible stuff.
S1 (11:18):
Yeah.
S2 (11:18):
Because I was so shy to ask my parents about anything,
you know? How'd you meet? You know, just kind of
questions you're kind of embarrassed to ask.
S1 (11:24):
Yeah.
S2 (11:24):
That you want to know. And then they're gone and
you can't.
S4 (11:26):
Mhm. Mhm.
S1 (11:28):
That's wow. I my my I just got goosebumps. That's really,
that's really great. That's really really great. Um tell me
a little bit about what you wish to see in
the next few quarters or years in your career at
Life University.
S2 (11:42):
Um I want my literature classes to, to fill up.
I mean, we those are always a it's kind of
a hassle to get enrollment in those to where they make.
But the last quarter we had, um, novels of social change,
and that was the best class I've had maybe ever.
And that was 15 strong. We read some novels and
(12:02):
it was just. a great time, but it has really
inspired just. I love those kids so much. And so
I want I want that to I want that forever.
S1 (12:12):
Yeah, well not forever. I love that. Well, I'm projecting
that for you forever and just filling up those seats.
I got you. Thank you. Well, thank you so much
for your time. Thank you for your passion. Thank you
for everything that you're bringing into the students. Um, and
thank you for doing such an extraordinary idea for that
final one on one class, which if you're an undergrad
(12:32):
and you haven't taken any courses, you got to have
a one on one English. Correct. So that's such a
beautiful way to kind of wrap things around. Um, so
thank you for doing something like that. It's really, really inspiring. Well,
we'll see you guys in the next episode of Living Life.
I love you. Hope you have a beautiful rest of
your quarter. Thank you. And we'll see you around.
S2 (12:51):
I appreciate.
S1 (12:51):
It. Take care guys. Bye.
Hi guys, welcome to Living Life, a Lifeview podcast. I
am your host, Doctor Veronica Garcia, and today I am
joined by a faculty member of our undergraduate, um, studies, Mr.
Charlie Farmer. Hi. Hello. How are you?
S2 (00:44):
I'm fantastic. Thanks for inviting me.
S1 (00:46):
I'm so excited to have you here. I'm so excited
to shine a light a little bit more into our undergraduate,
but also the intricacies and the specialness and the ruby
that you are. So I'm really excited to go and
dive deep in. So, um, tell me what courses you're
teaching right now at Life University.
S2 (01:03):
Right now, this quarter, we're doing, um, critical thinking and
transitional reading and transitional English.
S1 (01:09):
Okay. So everything in English itself. Okay. Um, what inspired
you to become an English professor?
S2 (01:15):
Uh, years ago, when I was an undergrad, my first
job was a student assistant in the English department. And
so I just fell in love with being around people
who love books and love to read and love to write.
And so once I got sort of immersed in that,
I never wanted to leave the English department or the
college campus. And so I love reading. I love writing, uh,
(01:35):
anything with with the written word. And so it just
seems like a great place to be.
S1 (01:40):
That's awesome. Did you do your undergrad in English?
S2 (01:43):
I did, so I started I was a journalism major
and then fell under the spell of poetry and novels and, um,
went that way instead.
S3 (01:52):
I love that. Where'd you go to school?
S2 (01:54):
Uh, I started at Macon State and then transferred to
Georgia College in Milledgeville. And so I got my undergrad
and graduate degree there.
S1 (02:01):
Nice. And graduate degrees. You have a master's as well? Yes.
That's awesome.
S2 (02:05):
In English.
S1 (02:06):
In English?
S2 (02:06):
Yeah. So I did my master's thesis on the lineage
between Walt Walt Whitman and Woody Guthrie and Bob Dylan.
S1 (02:13):
Okay.
S2 (02:14):
Yeah.
S1 (02:14):
That's a that's amazing. Yeah. So tell me. Okay. How
long have you been at Life University?
S2 (02:20):
Five years.
S1 (02:20):
Five years has been your experience.
S2 (02:22):
It's been great. I mean, I've been at other schools
and I know this is a live podcast, but really,
this is my favorite place I've been. So just colleague wise,
student wise, it's been fantastic.
S3 (02:31):
That's awesome.
S1 (02:31):
And we are we're a smaller institution. Tell me, did
you have an opportunity to teach other levels besides college,
or have you ever always stayed around just college?
S2 (02:40):
So I didn't think I could handle anyone below a
college age. Now I have a four year old daughter
and so now I understand. Yeah, little people can be
fantastic too, but it's always from college.
S1 (02:52):
That's awesome. And you mentioned that you've been at other colleges.
Tell me a little bit about those changes. Why why
Life University has been your favorite place?
S2 (03:01):
I think it's the students. It's like the international pool.
I mean, I think we have, um, this sense of
there is another side of the world, right? But I
think here you realize that we do. And I think
that's a great chance for students to meet people from
all walks of life. Um, you can quickly burn away
those prejudices and those preconceived notions and those expectations of
(03:22):
people when you meet, when you meet them.
S3 (03:23):
Mhm. I love that. That's really cool.
S1 (03:26):
This is, this is as a person that came in
straight from a different country when I first got here
and I started, I remember my very first class was
actually an English class because I came in as a
transfer of undergrad and first class ever was an English class.
I know exactly the room where it was. It was
down this hallway at the very end towards Socrates Cafe.
I was terrified, but for some reason it was a
(03:48):
terrified that I was like, oh, this is this is
kind of homey. This is nice. Um, I still miss
my language and my people and my cooking, but I
can make this at home. So to hear you say
that also from that faculty perspective, you see that you
experience that with the students is really refreshing.
S2 (04:04):
I just think the students coming here are so lucky
for that, especially if they're from Middle Georgia or I'd
say from middle Georgia, if they're from Georgia or the South.
And just instantly, um, immersed in culture, they didn't expect
to be face to face with. You know, maybe the
humanities don't matter as much, just sort of, you know,
if you can't count it, it doesn't count kind of thing. Um,
(04:27):
I think my big job here is to how can
I make people understand that, you know, writing is important,
reading is still important. And that's sort of the frustration
that I have. Um, sometimes.
S3 (04:39):
Okay, I love that.
S1 (04:40):
And I see, you know, with the beautifulness of growth
and change and, and I and all these things I do,
I'm very passionate about it. This is such an important
piece of our development. And to see now kids kind
of growing up in a different scenario where there's different
words that, you know, like, I have no idea how
(05:02):
you write this because it's automatically fixed when I make
the mistake. Yeah, it's really interesting. And for me, this
is very special to my heart because my mom is
an English teacher. Um, so to see that that shift
and that change, tell me, um, you've been a professor
for over five years, I assume.
S2 (05:16):
I've been teaching since 2001.
S1 (05:18):
Okay, so you've seen a huge shift and change. Tell me.
Tell me a little bit about what those pros that
you've seen, but also those things that you wish that
will be better shifted.
S2 (05:28):
I think it's been like a big pro, as I've
seen in just essays across the board, whether it be,
you know, in what we consider student writing or professional essays,
is sort of the embrace of the first person. I
know that was a no no. It was to bring
in the first person to your essays. And I totally
encourage that, because I think if you can bring in
first person experience, you know, anecdotes, examples, testimonials, the thing
that makes the writing that much better and you're much
(05:49):
more invested in it in terms of, um, what gets,
you know, thumbs down. Obviously. Like I has been like
the big issue, um, the whole push towards, like a
frictionless existence where if it's difficult, I can just get
an app for that and it takes care of it.
Whether it's essay writing or making friends, dating, ordering food,
anything like that. I mean, I think a life well
(06:10):
lived requires friction and difficulty and rigor, and we're getting
away from that. And that's that's really frustrating.
S3 (06:16):
Mhm.
S1 (06:16):
That's a beautiful way to say that I love that.
I like that friction does develop change.
S2 (06:22):
It forces you.
S1 (06:23):
To grow and.
S3 (06:24):
Change.
S2 (06:24):
Yeah I mean there's I'm very shy and like but
to be thrown out of my comfort zone is essential right.
I think that's how we all grow.
S3 (06:31):
Exactly.
S2 (06:32):
If we just are constantly greeted by, you know, a
head nod and a yes and an A, I don't
think that's going to be. Yeah. No one's going to
want an employee or marry you or hang out with you.
S3 (06:41):
Yeah. Yeah. Wow.
S1 (06:43):
I'm. I'm just in awe. I love the way that
you just phrased that and said that. Um, with that,
I understand that you're also writing a book.
S2 (06:51):
I do.
S1 (06:51):
So tell me a little bit more.
S2 (06:52):
So I said I majored in journalism and didn't do
that anymore, but I still I write that way. Um,
I write for music magazines. That's. Music's my big thing too.
S3 (07:01):
Mhm.
S2 (07:02):
Um, and writing a book about DB records, which was
this label that was started in 1978, in Atlanta by
Danny Beard, who owns a record store called wax, in fact,
in little Five Points.
S3 (07:13):
Mhm.
S2 (07:14):
Um, he was a student in Athens in the 70s
and graduated, came back to, to Atlanta in 76 and
opened Wax and Fax. But we'd go back to Athens
to see bands. And he came across the band The B-52's,
which were brand new at the time.
S3 (07:29):
Okay.
S2 (07:30):
And uh, was blown away and decided to put out
their first record. And of course, the rest. You know,
for those unfamiliar with B-52's, they were a big deal.
I mean, um, when I was a kid, my first
exposure to them was the song Love Shack. That was
kind of their comeback, and that was a huge song. Yeah,
but they'd had this sort of prehistory. Um, so he
put out their single Rock lobster, and then he put
(07:51):
out some records by Pylon Love tractor, uh, swimming pool cues,
the windbreakers. So a ton of other bands. But the
label was important because it was the first sort of
like DIY, do it yourself? Punk new wave label from
the South? I think that sort of set the template
for a lot of labels to follow.
S1 (08:08):
Hmm. That's so interesting.
S2 (08:10):
And so I really want to. I think he deserves
some exposure. I think the bands have gotten their heyday,
but I really think Danny has done just an amazing job,
and I want to make sure that, you know, his
story is told and the bands too, because, I mean,
a lot of them aren't household names these days, but
I think talking about them sort of recalibrates what we
consider success. I think right now we consider success being
(08:32):
like enormous wealth or just omnipresence. Right? You're there. You're
just famous for being there. But these people were famous.
They were successful because they made music and they they
expressed themselves on their own. They did it themselves. They
tore themselves and they put out records by themselves. I
think that's really neat.
S1 (08:50):
That's really awesome. That's a special story for sure. And
I think that that will bring shining a light into
that story will also, and exposing it hopefully to the
right hands and to the right reader. It'll also encourage
them that there's there's also a different pathway.
S2 (09:05):
Yeah. I mean again like again they aren't household names
but they inspire people to also be in bands. And
it doesn't mean you have to be successful. It means
that you're doing something on your own.
S1 (09:13):
Mhm.
S2 (09:14):
I remember being like 18 and going to maybe 19
going to Atlanta. And the only shows I've been to
are like big rock and roll shows at like Lakewood Amphitheater.
So even if you're like front row you're there's this
like 50ft gulf between you and the band. Mhm. I
remember going to a show at this place called the
Echo Lounge. It's no longer there. And I was in
the crowd. The show was about to start and there's
(09:34):
this guy in the crowd. Just looks super cool. Mhm.
And the band was like hey get up on stage.
And he gets up on stage and behind the drum
set starts playing. I thought like that's amazing. I was
like right there. So I mean that was just like
licensed to do it.
S1 (09:50):
Mhm. That's awesome.
S2 (09:51):
Yeah. So anyway like that kind of experience made me
think like I could do it too. I could be
in a band. Yeah. And so I was and we
put out records and tours and did the same thing.
But like I'm not a huge music, a music artist,
but like, I did what I wanted to do and
I did it. So.
S1 (10:08):
And you loved.
S2 (10:09):
It. Yeah. I got to see the country and tour
and write songs and people put them out. And, you know,
I made it my own way, just like these other
bands did too.
S1 (10:18):
That's amazing. What did you play?
S2 (10:20):
Uh, guitar in and sing.
S1 (10:23):
That's amazing. Okay, so how do you involve if. Anyway, um,
your passion for music, uh, into your classroom, if any way.
S2 (10:33):
Uh, sometimes I'll bring in, like, writing samples, because the
final project for my one on one class is to
write a profile essay about a family member. My dad
died in, um, in 2020, and I thought I knew him,
but I think I realized I didn't know him as
well as I should have. And so for my students,
I want them to interview someone in their family that
(10:54):
like to get to know. And so one of the
things I do is bring in some of my profiles
from from musicians. And they can use those as like
Site templates.
S1 (11:03):
Wow, that's really special. That's a that's a beautiful I
can't I kind of want to go to that to
that at least final project.
S2 (11:11):
That sounds I mean, the last, uh, you know, the
last quarters were just fantastic. I was trying to read them,
and it just I was tearing up. I was like,
this is incredible stuff.
S1 (11:18):
Yeah.
S2 (11:18):
Because I was so shy to ask my parents about anything,
you know? How'd you meet? You know, just kind of
questions you're kind of embarrassed to ask.
S1 (11:24):
Yeah.
S2 (11:24):
That you want to know. And then they're gone and
you can't.
S4 (11:26):
Mhm. Mhm.
S1 (11:28):
That's wow. I my my I just got goosebumps. That's really,
that's really great. That's really really great. Um tell me
a little bit about what you wish to see in
the next few quarters or years in your career at
Life University.
S2 (11:42):
Um I want my literature classes to, to fill up.
I mean, we those are always a it's kind of
a hassle to get enrollment in those to where they make.
But the last quarter we had, um, novels of social change,
and that was the best class I've had maybe ever.
And that was 15 strong. We read some novels and
(12:02):
it was just. a great time, but it has really
inspired just. I love those kids so much. And so
I want I want that to I want that forever.
S1 (12:12):
Yeah, well not forever. I love that. Well, I'm projecting
that for you forever and just filling up those seats.
I got you. Thank you. Well, thank you so much
for your time. Thank you for your passion. Thank you
for everything that you're bringing into the students. Um, and
thank you for doing such an extraordinary idea for that
final one on one class, which if you're an undergrad
(12:32):
and you haven't taken any courses, you got to have
a one on one English. Correct. So that's such a
beautiful way to kind of wrap things around. Um, so
thank you for doing something like that. It's really, really inspiring. Well,
we'll see you guys in the next episode of Living Life.
I love you. Hope you have a beautiful rest of
your quarter. Thank you. And we'll see you around.
S2 (12:51):
I appreciate.
S1 (12:51):
It. Take care guys. Bye.
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