July 28, 2025 • 12 mins
WBT Hall of Famer, Jim Szoke joins the show, as Jim recaps the first week of Panthers training camp, he talks about the impressions that the young pass rushers have made, how difficult it's going to be for the WR room to be finalized, and what to expect with padded practices set to begin today
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Jim Zoki joins us Panther Radio Network, Zo, what's going on?
Speaker 2 (00:04):
We thought we'd wait a little bit longer, let it
heat up a little bit more before getting out there.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
Trimpled.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
I think like six thirty am practice would have been
a good time to start today.
Speaker 4 (00:12):
Get it out of the way.
Speaker 5 (00:12):
No, No, it was still kind of warm out there today.
It's six thirty. Yeah, before I got here. Anyway, are
you guys, is it gonna be an appearance? Are you
guys out there this week for practice or wait to
ask me, zog that if it's over one hundred, then
I just not show up because I the medical team
then has eyes on me when we're out there.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
They told Bone the freezer is being used by the
players and the coaches, so he would not have access
to that. He decided just to cancel. Yeah, once it
gets down to seventies, zough.
Speaker 6 (00:36):
Let me know.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
They should let you pull your car up like like
bag your bands and just like go right up to
the field there and have the AC going that way.
Speaker 4 (00:43):
You don't get out of your I like.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
A bad plan. That's not a bad plan. I think
we're out there next next week, in the week after,
we think We're gonna have two appearances out there doing shows,
I think Fitty and I think I will have Panther
Fitty out there later this week and we will check
out the festivities. But I cannot go today unfortunately, And
I was kind of thinking about doing it because I
(01:05):
kind of want to see I kind of want to
hear the pads pop, I kind of want to see
the boys.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
Football the next step, next steps.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Well, you and I were.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Talking about this, like, what what do you think can
you tell anything from what they have done so far?
Speaker 4 (01:17):
Like unpadded I mean, not not a lot.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
I mean they do obviously, the coachings happen, the players do.
But yeah, for us, you know, we all stand, as
you know, on one end of the field, and there's
a good portion of the practices every time that are
on the other end of the field about fifty seventy
yards away. So there's not everything that you can always,
you know, quite see and make out of what they're
doing and so forth. I mean, there they know what
they're working on and what they're trying to get out
of each particular drill and so forth. So yeah, I
(01:42):
think for us a lot of times it is a
little bit of standing there and we're chit chatting and
watching practice and go, oh, it was a good catch, Mabby.
Can you really judge a running play, you know, or
four yard pass play, you know, exactly with exactly what
they were trying to get out of all the different
elements of doing something like that. No, not like you know,
if Luke's out there or whatever, he can probably diagnose
(02:02):
what all twenty two guys were doing in those four
seconds and tell you right then.
Speaker 5 (02:06):
Yeah, and he concerns about Ikey getting beat by Princely.
Some fans get all concerned. Where on this show, we've
been kind of taking the mindset of, oh, that's good
for Princely, We're not gonna worry about Ikey with no
pads on.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
What's been your takeaway from that?
Speaker 2 (02:20):
You know, I think with anything, you know, it's reps
in practice, So you have to weigh at to what
that is versus you know, game situations. What we know
with Ikey is, you know, in his fourth year, you know,
we've seen that he is by and large a really
excellent run blocker that needs to improve, probably by his
own diagnostics as a pass rusher. And it's a contract
(02:41):
year for him, so it's big, but it's one of
those things like you're with every winning situation as we
have losing situation on their side of these one on
one battles like that and so forth. I think it's
exciting to see what Princely and Nick Gorton can bring
because I think that's such a concerned position where it
feels like there's depth and you got rotational talent there.
If those guys can step up and be early in
the season, that's going to be huge. Whereas with Ikey,
(03:03):
I think, you know, we know basically where he's going
to be as a player. It's going to be what
we saw in the first three years, somewhere in that range,
hopefully with some improvement in the past blocking. So I think,
you know, we kind of know. My point is a
little bit more about what Ikey actually is, where with
the Prince Princely, we're excited to see what could the
potential because we don't really know.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
It's a bit of an unknown.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
That's the way I chose to look at a play,
and you could say I'm a panther homer. I'm always
going to pick the positive or whatever in training camp,
but like that's the way I looked at it. The
edge rush is more like the old line is pretty
damn good, like strength.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
Of the team.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
I think that was the biggest thing that changed this
whole organization. The edge is like defense.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Anything on defense it looks good like the defense the
first couple of days was kicking some button, you know,
I know. McKay tweeted out, all looks like the offense
kind of got Saturday's practice, But the defense has had
some really good moments. I'm going to hold onto those
because I'm so desperate for actual good defense. Did you
hear the princely comments about this whole Ikey thing and
what the answer saying about him?
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Did you hear that?
Speaker 5 (04:01):
Now?
Speaker 4 (04:01):
I don't think so.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Do you have that fit? This is hilarious.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
This kid is is a piece of work. So remember
when he told Remember when he told Morgan and Tepper
that he's gonna make them the organization pay for waiting
so long to draft him in a second contract.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
This dude has no filter.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Listen to him on social media this weekend of fans
that were knocking Ikey.
Speaker 6 (04:24):
Oh my gosh, what does this say about Ikey ike Ikey?
That bro Ikey is a great offensive tack. I'm just
like that, Like what the yo was good? Ikey is
a great offensive tackle. Bro, I'm just colds like, there's
not many offensive tackles that to lock me up, really
none toil you.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Man.
Speaker 5 (04:50):
You knew there was a confidence there when he was
working on his second contract, when he got drafted.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Do you think someone over there is gonna talk to
him about that? Yeah, I mean like he might contemper
that just a little bit. Like I love it because
what you know, look at the business worried. It's like,
oh it sounds sally entertaining. I think it's fun. Yeah,
we need more of that. I think that's actually fun.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
It was he is confident man.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Working on a spot on panther talk here at some
point though, Yeah, although we will have to have the
delay on apparently happened there. You like confidence, right though,
I mean you got to prove it, you know, in
settings that matter.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
It's a little carried away that not one tackle can
handle him in the home entirely.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
But I do like it's entertaining.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
It's it is he has a personality and a confidence.
Speaker 5 (05:33):
I kind of like that league wide tackle group chat
this morning. It's probably thinking, oh we got something to
talk about.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Right now, and Ikey is the best weft tackle in
the league.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
Apparently he beat him.
Speaker 5 (05:41):
How how impressed are you with Renfro so far based
off kind of his journey to coming back to this point?
Speaker 2 (05:47):
I mean, from what we're seeing against is all he say,
practice and reps and situations that are now game settings.
But again, you talk about the body of work when
he was healthy and being a guy that had one
hundred reception season not that long ago at the age
of twenty nine. When healthy, you kind of know what
Hunter Renfro is. So I think it's really we've said before.
I think it's the deepest position on this team is
(06:09):
wide receiver, and now you've got to start looking at
you know, who's going to be staying. They did keep
seven receivers for a good part of last year. Is
David Moore a guy that replicates what Hunter has because
obviously thelan's going to be there, So how many veteran
receivers that could do some return stuff can you keep?
So I think that's probably one of the more interesting
position battles is seeing you know, those guys like that,
(06:30):
because to me, a guy like Jimmy Horn's got to
be on the team because of the speed element you
drafted him. I feel like if you if you expose
him on the practice squad, he'll probably get plucked off
of that. So I would think that makes it those
veteran battles kind of back back half of the receiver
rotation is going to be one of the more interesting ones.
I'm a big want to see more out a Jalen
Coker guy. So I think I know exavierl that's going
(06:51):
to step.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
Up this year.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
You bring in McMillan is your number one pick, but
there's Jalen Coker is I think a guy that started
out really smooth and really looked like polished for being
a rookie, especially undrafted rookie guy. What's he going to
look like in the second year. So it's a nice
problem to have.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
We got a text from somebody I forget who it was.
I don't know it's Richie or some one of these.
One of those texts was saying like that Renfro could
be the heir apparent to Thling And I definitely get
that he's on a one year deal, Like if he
plays really good, you would have to then give him
a deal. But I've heard it said by people over
there that are covering the team that they've kind of
(07:28):
thought Coker could be in the slot, Like Coker works
really well at a slot, and they've wondered if he could
be the Theling replacement.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
So, but I think you nailed it. Bone said it too,
like this.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Is a problem we're not used to having, especially at
this position of late.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
You surely going, how are we going to get five
receivers on this team that are qualified? And now we
have like eight, you know. So it's a it's a
really interesting situation to have. So and it's and it's
good because a lot of the guys we mentioned, would
it be more or Renfro obviously Jimmy Horne in particular,
these guys are special teams guys. That's what you want from,
you know, traditionally from the receivers that are not the
(08:02):
starter guys, is that they played multiple roles like special teams.
Speaker 5 (08:05):
On top of that, Yeah, that's all these pass catchers though.
The guy that I might be most excited about in
year two to see I who makes that leap as JT. Sanders. Yeah,
you know, he's trimmed down. What are you expecting from
him this year and how much better can he be
from a year ago when he did show problem.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Another guy oozing with confidence, right, So, I think J. C.
Sanders has a lot of personality. I think we're just
got to see a little bit of that taste last
year where he hurdled that guy and some a couple
of moments where he has a big play potential.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
You know.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Again, is he a well rounded you know, blocking tight
end and losing some weight, Probably not as much so,
but I think in terms of having a pass catching.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
Tight end, I think he's going to be terrific.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
I'm really interested to see too, the development this year
of Mitchell Evans because he caught the ball at Notre Dame.
But he's also a good blocker coming in, so like
another guy that played their Tommy Tremble, kind of a
guy that can do both, you know. I think that
combination of some of these young guys at tight end
could be really good because it really doesn't have like
that veteran presence, which could change at the end of
camp and the preseason that they may make a move
and bring in some have a veteran tight end. But
(09:05):
right now, it's really fun watching these guys develop. I
think Sanders in the passing game would be such a
welcome edition. In the red zone, you know situations where
if they're keying on feeling to have that third down
receiver as a tight end, because the whole point of
the tight end like that is have that mismatch with
the linebacker or somebody like that to be able to
get open in the receiving game. And I think Sanders,
now in his second year, would be cool to see
(09:26):
what his development looks like.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
What do you think about the about tm MAC and
the battles with Horn and Mike jack Like early on,
it sounds like the veteran DBS are winning a lot
of those, even Mike Jackson.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
I think they said one on ones.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
He went three straight times against TAMAC on Saturday and
one every time. Those are fun battles and it only helps.
I don't know if you've heard zoke, but in training
camp iron does indeed sharp iron iron.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
What you what have you noticed with.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
T ma AC.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
I think we're just trying to get better every day.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
So does that do that?
Speaker 2 (10:00):
One's as long as we have alignment? Yeah, t mech
is you know again he's going to come in. I
won't use the word rob. He's gonna be as polished
as somebody like Mike Jack that has been around for
a couple of years in this league. So I would
think the expectations early would be that a veteran defender
who starter played well when he came in here last
year in the trade should be ahead. I think, you know,
Mike Jack would expect that to be the situation there,
and that will make Tea Mac better as a receiver
(10:22):
and he'll start winning those battles more often as the
year goes on, and that's when you got to learn
how you know, we talk about college open versus NFL
open in routes. I mean it's a lot tighter window
for the quarterbacks and the receivers when you get to
the pro level because in college you just see it
all the time.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
Guys are wide open.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
They have these big stats coming out of college because
defenses aren't buy and large on par with the offenses
of college football, so a lot of times you're not
contested catching a lot of these things. He's going to
have to learn how to make the contested catches, which
is what's so great about his catchwaitious and his frame
and the size that he brings is that he'll probably
be able to, you know, learn how to win a
lot of those battles moving forward. But again, practice situations.
(10:58):
It'll be fun seeing like we've got an halp out
to that Brown's preseason game. They joint practice sessions next
week that will get a real taste against competition to
see what that looks like.
Speaker 5 (11:06):
So what was your disappointment level in Happy Gilmore two?
Not being Citizen Kane like some people expected it to be.
I actually tweeted it.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
I liked it.
Speaker 4 (11:14):
I mean, maybe it's because my expectation level is going in.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Anchorman is one of my favorite movies of all time,
and so maybe my least favorite movie and certainly my
most disappointing movie of all time was Anchorman two. So that's
forever with like long gap sequels. Changed my thought about
the summer also on that level, Yeah, exactly. It was
the dumbest and so I think I thought this one
picked up not far off where the first one left
(11:39):
for being as many years as went by. I mean, right,
should it win an Academy Award? No? But I thought
for what your expectation level was, it was entertaining good
summer movie a lot of obviously fun. I thought Scotti
Scheffler was one of the great moments throughout.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
The stuff that involved him.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Though without giving away the plot, because I use the
word plot with the air quotes if you answer the
plot of the of the movie, but I would say,
you know, the golf sequence. There's a golf sequence at
the end of competition that goes on like a car
chase that goes on too long. So that was a
bit much over the top after a while. But by
and large, I thought they did a good job.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
I laughed. I thought it was funny, so I thought
it was good.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
I enjoyed John Daily and he does good he does.
I liked there you go, Zoke. I appreciate that happy
Gilmour too. Th that's right movie reviews and football breakdowns. Zoke,
appreciate you, Manry, not too sweat too much.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
We see out there the next time that that happens.
When you're there, find bone in the freezer. I'm gonna
look for him over there.
Speaker 5 (12:42):
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Jim Zoki joins us Panther Radio Network, Zo, what's going on?
Speaker 2 (00:04):
We thought we'd wait a little bit longer, let it
heat up a little bit more before getting out there.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
Trimpled.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
I think like six thirty am practice would have been
a good time to start today.
Speaker 4 (00:12):
Get it out of the way.
Speaker 5 (00:12):
No, No, it was still kind of warm out there today.
It's six thirty. Yeah, before I got here. Anyway, are
you guys, is it gonna be an appearance? Are you
guys out there this week for practice or wait to
ask me, zog that if it's over one hundred, then
I just not show up because I the medical team
then has eyes on me when we're out there.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
They told Bone the freezer is being used by the
players and the coaches, so he would not have access
to that. He decided just to cancel. Yeah, once it
gets down to seventies, zough.
Speaker 6 (00:36):
Let me know.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
They should let you pull your car up like like
bag your bands and just like go right up to
the field there and have the AC going that way.
Speaker 4 (00:43):
You don't get out of your I like.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
A bad plan. That's not a bad plan. I think
we're out there next next week, in the week after,
we think We're gonna have two appearances out there doing shows,
I think Fitty and I think I will have Panther
Fitty out there later this week and we will check
out the festivities. But I cannot go today unfortunately, And
I was kind of thinking about doing it because I
(01:05):
kind of want to see I kind of want to
hear the pads pop, I kind of want to see
the boys.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
Football the next step, next steps.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Well, you and I were.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Talking about this, like, what what do you think can
you tell anything from what they have done so far?
Speaker 4 (01:17):
Like unpadded I mean, not not a lot.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
I mean they do obviously, the coachings happen, the players do.
But yeah, for us, you know, we all stand, as
you know, on one end of the field, and there's
a good portion of the practices every time that are
on the other end of the field about fifty seventy
yards away. So there's not everything that you can always,
you know, quite see and make out of what they're
doing and so forth. I mean, there they know what
they're working on and what they're trying to get out
of each particular drill and so forth. So yeah, I
(01:42):
think for us a lot of times it is a
little bit of standing there and we're chit chatting and
watching practice and go, oh, it was a good catch, Mabby.
Can you really judge a running play, you know, or
four yard pass play, you know, exactly with exactly what
they were trying to get out of all the different
elements of doing something like that. No, not like you know,
if Luke's out there or whatever, he can probably diagnose
(02:02):
what all twenty two guys were doing in those four
seconds and tell you right then.
Speaker 5 (02:06):
Yeah, and he concerns about Ikey getting beat by Princely.
Some fans get all concerned. Where on this show, we've
been kind of taking the mindset of, oh, that's good
for Princely, We're not gonna worry about Ikey with no
pads on.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
What's been your takeaway from that?
Speaker 2 (02:20):
You know, I think with anything, you know, it's reps
in practice, So you have to weigh at to what
that is versus you know, game situations. What we know
with Ikey is, you know, in his fourth year, you know,
we've seen that he is by and large a really
excellent run blocker that needs to improve, probably by his
own diagnostics as a pass rusher. And it's a contract
(02:41):
year for him, so it's big, but it's one of
those things like you're with every winning situation as we
have losing situation on their side of these one on
one battles like that and so forth. I think it's
exciting to see what Princely and Nick Gorton can bring
because I think that's such a concerned position where it
feels like there's depth and you got rotational talent there.
If those guys can step up and be early in
the season, that's going to be huge. Whereas with Ikey,
(03:03):
I think, you know, we know basically where he's going
to be as a player. It's going to be what
we saw in the first three years, somewhere in that range,
hopefully with some improvement in the past blocking. So I think,
you know, we kind of know. My point is a
little bit more about what Ikey actually is, where with
the Prince Princely, we're excited to see what could the
potential because we don't really know.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
It's a bit of an unknown.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
That's the way I chose to look at a play,
and you could say I'm a panther homer. I'm always
going to pick the positive or whatever in training camp,
but like that's the way I looked at it. The
edge rush is more like the old line is pretty
damn good, like strength.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
Of the team.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
I think that was the biggest thing that changed this
whole organization. The edge is like defense.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Anything on defense it looks good like the defense the
first couple of days was kicking some button, you know,
I know. McKay tweeted out, all looks like the offense
kind of got Saturday's practice, But the defense has had
some really good moments. I'm going to hold onto those
because I'm so desperate for actual good defense. Did you
hear the princely comments about this whole Ikey thing and
what the answer saying about him?
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Did you hear that?
Speaker 5 (04:01):
Now?
Speaker 4 (04:01):
I don't think so.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Do you have that fit? This is hilarious.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
This kid is is a piece of work. So remember
when he told Remember when he told Morgan and Tepper
that he's gonna make them the organization pay for waiting
so long to draft him in a second contract.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
This dude has no filter.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Listen to him on social media this weekend of fans
that were knocking Ikey.
Speaker 6 (04:24):
Oh my gosh, what does this say about Ikey ike Ikey?
That bro Ikey is a great offensive tack. I'm just
like that, Like what the yo was good? Ikey is
a great offensive tackle. Bro, I'm just colds like, there's
not many offensive tackles that to lock me up, really
none toil you.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Man.
Speaker 5 (04:50):
You knew there was a confidence there when he was
working on his second contract, when he got drafted.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Do you think someone over there is gonna talk to
him about that? Yeah, I mean like he might contemper
that just a little bit. Like I love it because
what you know, look at the business worried. It's like,
oh it sounds sally entertaining. I think it's fun. Yeah,
we need more of that. I think that's actually fun.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
It was he is confident man.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Working on a spot on panther talk here at some
point though, Yeah, although we will have to have the
delay on apparently happened there. You like confidence, right though,
I mean you got to prove it, you know, in
settings that matter.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
It's a little carried away that not one tackle can
handle him in the home entirely.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
But I do like it's entertaining.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
It's it is he has a personality and a confidence.
Speaker 5 (05:33):
I kind of like that league wide tackle group chat
this morning. It's probably thinking, oh we got something to
talk about.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Right now, and Ikey is the best weft tackle in
the league.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
Apparently he beat him.
Speaker 5 (05:41):
How how impressed are you with Renfro so far based
off kind of his journey to coming back to this point?
Speaker 2 (05:47):
I mean, from what we're seeing against is all he say,
practice and reps and situations that are now game settings.
But again, you talk about the body of work when
he was healthy and being a guy that had one
hundred reception season not that long ago at the age
of twenty nine. When healthy, you kind of know what
Hunter Renfro is. So I think it's really we've said before.
I think it's the deepest position on this team is
(06:09):
wide receiver, and now you've got to start looking at
you know, who's going to be staying. They did keep
seven receivers for a good part of last year. Is
David Moore a guy that replicates what Hunter has because
obviously thelan's going to be there, So how many veteran
receivers that could do some return stuff can you keep?
So I think that's probably one of the more interesting
position battles is seeing you know, those guys like that,
(06:30):
because to me, a guy like Jimmy Horn's got to
be on the team because of the speed element you
drafted him. I feel like if you if you expose
him on the practice squad, he'll probably get plucked off
of that. So I would think that makes it those
veteran battles kind of back back half of the receiver
rotation is going to be one of the more interesting ones.
I'm a big want to see more out a Jalen
Coker guy. So I think I know exavierl that's going
(06:51):
to step.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
Up this year.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
You bring in McMillan is your number one pick, but
there's Jalen Coker is I think a guy that started
out really smooth and really looked like polished for being
a rookie, especially undrafted rookie guy. What's he going to
look like in the second year. So it's a nice
problem to have.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
We got a text from somebody I forget who it was.
I don't know it's Richie or some one of these.
One of those texts was saying like that Renfro could
be the heir apparent to Thling And I definitely get
that he's on a one year deal, Like if he
plays really good, you would have to then give him
a deal. But I've heard it said by people over
there that are covering the team that they've kind of
(07:28):
thought Coker could be in the slot, Like Coker works
really well at a slot, and they've wondered if he could
be the Theling replacement.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
So, but I think you nailed it. Bone said it too,
like this.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Is a problem we're not used to having, especially at
this position of late.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
You surely going, how are we going to get five
receivers on this team that are qualified? And now we
have like eight, you know. So it's a it's a
really interesting situation to have. So and it's and it's
good because a lot of the guys we mentioned, would
it be more or Renfro obviously Jimmy Horne in particular,
these guys are special teams guys. That's what you want from,
you know, traditionally from the receivers that are not the
(08:02):
starter guys, is that they played multiple roles like special teams.
Speaker 5 (08:05):
On top of that, Yeah, that's all these pass catchers though.
The guy that I might be most excited about in
year two to see I who makes that leap as JT. Sanders. Yeah,
you know, he's trimmed down. What are you expecting from
him this year and how much better can he be
from a year ago when he did show problem.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Another guy oozing with confidence, right, So, I think J. C.
Sanders has a lot of personality. I think we're just
got to see a little bit of that taste last
year where he hurdled that guy and some a couple
of moments where he has a big play potential.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
You know.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Again, is he a well rounded you know, blocking tight
end and losing some weight, Probably not as much so,
but I think in terms of having a pass catching.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
Tight end, I think he's going to be terrific.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
I'm really interested to see too, the development this year
of Mitchell Evans because he caught the ball at Notre Dame.
But he's also a good blocker coming in, so like
another guy that played their Tommy Tremble, kind of a
guy that can do both, you know. I think that
combination of some of these young guys at tight end
could be really good because it really doesn't have like
that veteran presence, which could change at the end of
camp and the preseason that they may make a move
and bring in some have a veteran tight end. But
(09:05):
right now, it's really fun watching these guys develop. I
think Sanders in the passing game would be such a
welcome edition. In the red zone, you know situations where
if they're keying on feeling to have that third down
receiver as a tight end, because the whole point of
the tight end like that is have that mismatch with
the linebacker or somebody like that to be able to
get open in the receiving game. And I think Sanders,
now in his second year, would be cool to see
(09:26):
what his development looks like.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
What do you think about the about tm MAC and
the battles with Horn and Mike jack Like early on,
it sounds like the veteran DBS are winning a lot
of those, even Mike Jackson.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
I think they said one on ones.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
He went three straight times against TAMAC on Saturday and
one every time. Those are fun battles and it only helps.
I don't know if you've heard zoke, but in training
camp iron does indeed sharp iron iron.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
What you what have you noticed with.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
T ma AC.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
I think we're just trying to get better every day.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
So does that do that?
Speaker 2 (10:00):
One's as long as we have alignment? Yeah, t mech
is you know again he's going to come in. I
won't use the word rob. He's gonna be as polished
as somebody like Mike Jack that has been around for
a couple of years in this league. So I would
think the expectations early would be that a veteran defender
who starter played well when he came in here last
year in the trade should be ahead. I think, you know,
Mike Jack would expect that to be the situation there,
and that will make Tea Mac better as a receiver
(10:22):
and he'll start winning those battles more often as the
year goes on, and that's when you got to learn
how you know, we talk about college open versus NFL
open in routes. I mean it's a lot tighter window
for the quarterbacks and the receivers when you get to
the pro level because in college you just see it
all the time.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
Guys are wide open.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
They have these big stats coming out of college because
defenses aren't buy and large on par with the offenses
of college football, so a lot of times you're not
contested catching a lot of these things. He's going to
have to learn how to make the contested catches, which
is what's so great about his catchwaitious and his frame
and the size that he brings is that he'll probably
be able to, you know, learn how to win a
lot of those battles moving forward. But again, practice situations.
(10:58):
It'll be fun seeing like we've got an halp out
to that Brown's preseason game. They joint practice sessions next
week that will get a real taste against competition to
see what that looks like.
Speaker 5 (11:06):
So what was your disappointment level in Happy Gilmore two?
Not being Citizen Kane like some people expected it to be.
I actually tweeted it.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
I liked it.
Speaker 4 (11:14):
I mean, maybe it's because my expectation level is going in.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Anchorman is one of my favorite movies of all time,
and so maybe my least favorite movie and certainly my
most disappointing movie of all time was Anchorman two. So that's
forever with like long gap sequels. Changed my thought about
the summer also on that level, Yeah, exactly. It was
the dumbest and so I think I thought this one
picked up not far off where the first one left
(11:39):
for being as many years as went by. I mean, right,
should it win an Academy Award? No? But I thought
for what your expectation level was, it was entertaining good
summer movie a lot of obviously fun. I thought Scotti
Scheffler was one of the great moments throughout.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
The stuff that involved him.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Though without giving away the plot, because I use the
word plot with the air quotes if you answer the
plot of the of the movie, but I would say,
you know, the golf sequence. There's a golf sequence at
the end of competition that goes on like a car
chase that goes on too long. So that was a
bit much over the top after a while. But by
and large, I thought they did a good job.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
I laughed. I thought it was funny, so I thought
it was good.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
I enjoyed John Daily and he does good he does.
I liked there you go, Zoke. I appreciate that happy
Gilmour too. Th that's right movie reviews and football breakdowns. Zoke,
appreciate you, Manry, not too sweat too much.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
We see out there the next time that that happens.
When you're there, find bone in the freezer. I'm gonna
look for him over there.
Speaker 5 (12:42):
Thank you Zochi for visiting the Chandler Vault the studio
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