October 12, 2025 • 19 mins
Prepare for your new obsession The Fix.
This brand new You Beauty series features your beauty agony aunts, Kelly & Amy, who don't shy away from solving the awkward, embarrassing, and absolutely essential dilemmas you're too embarrassed to ask anyone about. This episode covers the real, honest stuff: the unspoken rules around cosmetic injectables, a very hairy boyfriend situation, and the case of the office hand cream thief.
Plus, we're serving up our Beauty Edit with all the news you need to know from the beauty world this week.
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
You're listening to a MoMA Mia podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Mama Miya acknowledges the traditional owners of land and waters
that this podcast is recorded on Hey friends, we try
and always be real with you here and also over
on you, beauty.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
So I want to tell you about something exciting.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
It's called the Fix, and it's on you, beauty, and
it's for those moments where you're too embarrassed to ask anyone,
like how to properly wash your face or that weird
thing your body is doing at two am.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
It's like Q and A, but we're going there.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Amy Clark and Kelly McCarran are basically your new besties
or agony arts who happen to have all the answers
that you're too mortified to ask or even google.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
They're serving up honest.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
No bullshit advice that will make you hopefully think it's
not a complete disaster after all. Think of it like
your beauty therapy session, but with more laughs and zero judgment, because,
let's face it, we're all just swinging it, aren't we.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
I still am.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Trust me, your future self will thank you for hitting play.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
Makeup is my therapy.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
I'm I'm obsessed and I don't even feel guilty about it.
Speaker 5 (01:19):
Hello, welcome to you Beauty, the podcast for your Face,
and welcome to The Fix.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
My name is Amy Clark, and with.
Speaker 5 (01:25):
Me today Kelley McCarron, and today we are here to
solve life's little beauty dilemmas, the kind of stuff that
you're too embarrassed to ask anyone else.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
Ask us.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
You have to ask us, because there is no team
I hear. We are your beauty agony aunts. If you will,
every now and then, sometimes when you least expect it,
we are going to pop into your eyes and ears
with one of these the Fixed episodes, ready to take
on the messiest, most awkward and cringe worthy problems.
Speaker 6 (01:53):
In your makeup bag.
Speaker 5 (01:54):
And beyond this episode, we are tackling the unspoken rules
of cosmetic injectibles.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Do you owe people.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
A full confession?
Speaker 5 (02:04):
We're also diving into a very hairy situation with a
listener's boyfriend.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Plus, we are solving the case of the office hand
hand crim gate.
Speaker 6 (02:14):
Was it you? Probably? But first our beauty headlines.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
This is the Beauty Edit.
Speaker 7 (02:20):
I'm cass Mom and me as morning editor, and I'm
here to unpack all the biggest trends. Consider this you'r
weekly download of everything you missed in the beauty world.
Speaker 8 (02:29):
And I'm Sophie, the producer of you Beauty, and I'm
here to ask all the questions you're wondering on your behalf.
So let's get into it, Cass, what's the first big
trend we need to talk about?
Speaker 7 (02:38):
So, Kim Kardashian is closing her skincare brand, Skin by
Kim Wait.
Speaker 8 (02:43):
So Kim is shutting down her beauty line already. Didn't
that only launch a few years ago?
Speaker 4 (02:47):
You're right?
Speaker 7 (02:47):
So, so Skin launched in twenty twenty two as this
kind of glossy, luxury skincare brand. It was also a
rebrand of her previous labels, which you'll probably remember as
KKW Beauty and KKW Fragrance. So at the time, Kim
was kind of looking for something that was a one
brand beauty empire, and this was supposed to encompass skincare, makeup, fragrance, nails.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
That sort of stuff.
Speaker 7 (03:10):
And it was done in partnership with Cody, which is
a really big beauty giant who owns a bunch of
really amazing brands. And it was designed as a nine
product skin care line and later expanded to makeup, but
so if the reality was that it never really landed.
The nine products, which included cleanser, tona exfoliator, herolonic acid,
vitamin C, face cream, I cream oil, dropped night oil.
(03:31):
There's a reason that I'm taking a breath there. There
is so much there, and together it cost six hundred
and seventy three USD, which is around one thousand dollars AUD.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
So even the fans that.
Speaker 7 (03:42):
Really loved Kim couldn't justify that kind of price tag.
So in twenty twenty four she tried to turn things around.
She sort of didn't let it die, then added some makeup,
but even then it just didn't really take off.
Speaker 8 (03:53):
Yeah, okay, I definitely wouldn't pay that.
Speaker 7 (03:55):
No, I know, I think it's quite excessive, especially because
if you consider so many celebrity luxury brands are kind
of in that middle range.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
So this was a bit of a step at the time.
Speaker 8 (04:03):
So what happened was it just too expensive.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
That was kind of a big part of it.
Speaker 7 (04:07):
And the products were nice, but I feel like they
weren't that unique, especially for that kind of price range.
So Bethany Frankel, who is on the Real Housewives of
New York and makes lots of comments on social media
about various things, called it a rich person's game, and
I think that kind of sums this one up. And
then you've got Kim herself. So she's already juggling her
four billion dollar Skims empire, four kids, finishing a law program,
(04:29):
and now she's actually going to start in Ryan Murphy's
new series All Fair. So she has a lot going on.
And I think in this instance, a sluggish beauty label
just really wasn't worth her bandwidth.
Speaker 8 (04:39):
Okay, So wasn't this in a partnership, Yes.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
It was so behind the scenes.
Speaker 7 (04:43):
Coti, who originally partnered with her, sold their stake at
a loss earlier this year, So that kind of led
to this official note on the website saying that it
closed down on June twenty ninth.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
Of this year.
Speaker 8 (04:53):
Okay, Kassid, does that mean that this is the end
of Kim Kardashian in beauty?
Speaker 7 (04:56):
Look, it's a good question, but I think the answer
is not quite. The industry is already talking about Skims
Beauty on the horizon potentially for next year in twenty
twenty six, and that actually makes a lot of sense
if you consider skims as a cultural juggernaut. It's not
just shapewear anymore. It's loungewear, it's swim, it's men's wear.
Speaker 6 (05:15):
And it's gone global.
Speaker 7 (05:16):
So it makes sense to put her new beauty foray,
whatever that may be, under the Skim's umbrella and tapping
into her existing customer base.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
So my thoughts, so that Skin by Kim may have.
Speaker 7 (05:27):
Flopped, but this feels like less of a failure and
a bit more of a strategic pivot.
Speaker 8 (05:32):
Okay, right, So it's Kimmy Kaye trimming the fat so
you can make a bigger comeback.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
I'd say.
Speaker 5 (05:36):
So.
Speaker 7 (05:36):
I think she's cut in the dead weight and then
she's gonna come back bigger and better than ever. Sophie,
I have some devastating news. The internet is saying that
MATCHA is messing with our hair.
Speaker 8 (05:46):
Wait what hold on, don't come for my morning match a, cass?
What is going on here?
Speaker 7 (05:51):
So Matcha is everywhere right now, and all the hot
girls are drinking it on their walks.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
It's Oliver Pinterest and.
Speaker 7 (05:57):
Even I have to say it looks very chic when
you've got one in your hand. But a viral Instagram
reel had people spiraling, and it came from holistic beauty
expert Michelle Ranavat. So she said that her hair started
falling out because she was drinking too much of it.
Speaker 8 (06:11):
Oh my god, Okay, how much is too much? What
does that mean exactly?
Speaker 7 (06:14):
I mean the main ingredient in matcha that's causing a
fuss is something called a tannin, which is a naturally
occurring polyphonolic compound. They're saying that it could block iron absorption,
and low iron is correlated to thinning and shedding. But
as we know, there's quite a difference between correlation and causation.
Speaker 8 (06:32):
So we're saying that my morning beloved green latte is
going to make me bald.
Speaker 7 (06:36):
Well, Not exactly, So Mamma Mia spoke to the experts
on this one to debunk it. We spoke with doctor
James Hook, who's really well known in the wellness and
health world, and he said that basically any food or
drink in excess could impact our health. So matcha isn't
directly causing our hair loss. However, if you already have
low iron, it might not be a bad idea to
(06:57):
drink a little less or time your intake better For
those that are already low in iron, it could worseen
the deficiency or potentially trigger something called intelligent effluvium, which
you may know is a type of temporary shit and
hair loss, but it's actually not a new phenomenon, Sophie.
Speaker 8 (07:13):
So it's not just my match to them.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
No, So doctors have.
Speaker 7 (07:16):
Actually recommended keeping tea and coffee at least one to
two hours away from meals that are iron rich or
if you're taking iron supplements, and they basically say to
take the supplements on an empty stomach. So if you're
low in iron and you're trying to eat a breakfast
sausage in the morning, maybe have your match out a
little later in the day.
Speaker 8 (07:33):
So basically, don't chug a Marcher with your steak dinner.
Speaker 7 (07:36):
It's more of your iron deficient to just be mindful
making sure you're eating your iron rich foods on an
empty stomach and monitoring your levels and consulting a doctor
if you're a bit worried. So the bottom line is, no,
you don't need to break up with your March just yet,
but make sure to drink it smarter. That's your beauty
headlines for this week. Now, let's get into your beauty
dilemmas with Kelly and Amy.
Speaker 6 (07:56):
This one has come from a listener named Jen so.
Speaker 5 (07:59):
Gendm Us, saying, I recently had a small cosmetic enhancement
to my lips and lines just to just screet touch up,
and I absolutely love it. The change is super subtle
and natural, but it still makes me feel.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
Like I'm hiding something.
Speaker 5 (08:11):
I have a friend who's completely open about her tweaks.
If someone compliments her lips, she'll say straight away, thanks,
I got them done. I admire that honesty, but I'm
not sure I want to be that transparent. So do
I have to tell people? Do I owe them that information?
Speaker 6 (08:25):
What is the etiquette?
Speaker 5 (08:27):
I feel like you are the perfect person to talk
about this, because yeah, but I last thing you were like,
I want to answer first.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
Oh, like she's going to come in with some opinions. Oho.
Speaker 5 (08:38):
I totally get why gen feels this way, because we
do expect transparency when it comes to injectibles and tweatments,
but it's from people that are profiting from the way
they look or that it's part of their brand, So
you know, like it's so different for someone who is
in the public eye versus the average person. Like, I
(08:58):
don't expect the average person to tell me what tweatments
they've had.
Speaker 8 (09:02):
Do you know?
Speaker 3 (09:04):
I mean, if I ask them point blank, what have
you done?
Speaker 1 (09:07):
Well, if someone looks vastly different, of course it's none
of my business. But if I ask and you're not
transparent and I know you well, then you're kind of
a little bit you're not.
Speaker 6 (09:16):
A girl's girl.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
I just don't think however, no, no, no, no, no,
I'm saying, if I know you quite well, that's it.
Speaker 5 (09:23):
It's like like, am I going to tell someone that
I literally met today, like my entire cosmetic history.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
I'm probably not.
Speaker 9 (09:30):
Yeah, and they did, they wouldn't ask, well, this is
what I've had done exactly down to the mills literally,
but where like probably not the best litmus test for
like how the average person might talk about it.
Speaker 5 (09:45):
But in my friendship circle, I think because it's like
in the same way that you share recommendations and information,
you know, like the great pair of boots that you've found,
or like have you been to this plate studio, this restaurant,
It's kind of like I feel like I love sharing
information in that way with my friends, so I have
no you know, I'll be like, oh, yeah, I did
this and this and this, But it's also completely fine
(10:08):
not to so, Jen, you actually don't owe anybody that information.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
You don't owe anyone anything about your body, about what
you've had done, about anything. However, that's how I see
it on one hand. But on the other hand, my
comment about being a girl's girl is simply if someone
says to you, oh, my goodness, your lips look fantastic
and you have had filler, I just think it's a
little bit disingenuous personally to say, well, I mean, you
(10:37):
can just say thanks, true, you can just say thanks,
But if you're allowing that person to believe that it
was just how you will mother nature mother nature, or
just a particular lip product that you're using, that's what
I think is a little bit disingenuous. However, it also
is still not that person's business, true, Like it doesn't
(11:01):
you don't owe anyone anything.
Speaker 5 (11:03):
Yeah, it's always as long as you're not like causing harm.
And also like, yeah, it's comes down to like the who,
the context, all of that kind of stuff. If anything,
I'd almost say to Jen, it's probably worth just like
she said that she loves how it looks that she's
so happy with the results. It's more kind of like, oh,
I wonder like why she like feels a little bit
(11:26):
uncomfy about like if she would tell her friends or not,
because it's kind of like if it's from a place
of like, oh I feel like a bit shameful that
I've had this thing done, then like maybe that's worth interrogating.
But if you're just a super private person, then lack
power to you.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Yeah, and you don't have to at all. And I'm
not saying that you're not a girl's girl at all.
Like it's so as you said, it's within context, Like, yeah,
I think what bothers me is I always think about
it purely from it's when a public person promotes lip
bum Yeah, this makes my lips look like this, and
(12:02):
they've had three meals of filler and a lip flip
and potentially a few tweakments around their mouth. That's what
I just think is really deceiving and bad behavior and
poor form towards other women.
Speaker 6 (12:15):
But yeah, if you're just private, don't worry about it.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Don't overthink things too much that don't affect other people.
Speaker 5 (12:27):
Now, for our second question, we have an anonymous submission,
one from Melbourne. It's not me, by the way, because
I live in Melbourne.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
My partner has a beard and it's a total mess.
It looks unkempt, and he just uses my standard champoon
it which makes it feel dry and wiry. I'm honestly
so put off by it. How do I convince him
to use a proper beard products without hurting his feelings
or making it a whole thing. I'm sorry to giggle,
but I just I'm honestly so put off by it.
That line is like it's giving me the eck.
Speaker 5 (12:57):
Yeah, but honestly, but there's a whole bunch of ways.
I'm sure that you could say this with nuance and whatever,
but I would literally say, and I'm pretty sure I
have said this to my husband. I like kissing you
better when you've had a fresh shave, don't give me
a beard, rush my face or badge. Like like, I'm
gonna throw that information out there and then it's his
(13:18):
you know, he can do with that what he will do.
You want to kiss me more, then let's shave. Let's
look after the facial hair, because like, and that's coming
from me like, or if you've ever like you get
easily irritated skin, like I need to not look like
Sharon Strzleki when I'm out and about with a massive
pass rush exactly.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
That's just such a good way to look at it,
Just really good advice. You don't have to hurt their feelings.
Just say, hey, your beard is really rough and it
hurts my face.
Speaker 6 (13:45):
Do you want to pass me? Yes or no? Except
then if he shaves it. You've really got to like passion.
Speaker 5 (13:50):
Oh yes, And this listener has said that their partner
has a beard. It's a bit different but easy fix,
like to keep a beard maintained and like, I don't know, it.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Depends how sensitive happens and how bushy. Most people surely
are open to a little bit of criticism about that. Like, hey, babe,
I brought you some bead oil. It's just you can
do it really casually, in a non confrontational way. Babe,
I picked up this beard oil for you because the
last time you gave me a schmooch it kind of
hurt me. Can you just start using this? I think
it'll Like I read an article it's really good something
(14:22):
like that.
Speaker 6 (14:23):
Yeah, just drop it. Into casual conversation. Doesn't have to
be a big thing.
Speaker 5 (14:26):
It also doesn't have to be like a specific beard product, like,
for example, like the face oil that I love, Like
he can use that too on his facial hair. I'm
talking as someone who has like I'm always skip.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
Yeah I still have a beard, and well.
Speaker 5 (14:42):
Actually, funnily enough, yeah, my husband does like to comment
on how my little mustache glints in the sunlight sometimes,
but you know, it's very soft, so it doesn't cause
him a shape. But another little hack that I use
is I'll just like send I don't know if you
send your partner like tiktoks or Instagram memes and things
(15:02):
like that, just send some pictures of like, you know,
men with facial hair that you think looks nice.
Speaker 6 (15:09):
And so send them across.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
They'll get the hint.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Producer Soaf has just given us such an additional great tip.
When they're not near you just starts screaming into their
phone so that they listen and then start serving ads.
Speaker 6 (15:23):
I need a beard oil, I need a soft.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Beard, scratchy beard, help please help me.
Speaker 6 (15:29):
And that was great advice.
Speaker 5 (15:31):
So the work borrower, all right, So listener Julia has
asked there's a colleague at my office who is constantly
quote unquote borrowing my lip, arm and hand cream. I'm sorry,
(15:51):
but that person needs to go to jail. I keep
my desk stocked with my favorite expensive products, and she
always asks to use them. How do I get her
to stop without making it awkward every time she asks?
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Let us both say how we would approach this situation.
Speaker 4 (16:06):
Um, it's me.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Being the person I am Oi jaila jawls.
Speaker 6 (16:14):
Don't get your dirty mits off my things.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
What if I had a cold saw your dirty bitch.
Speaker 6 (16:20):
What if you have a cold saw your dirty bitch.
Speaker 5 (16:22):
Yeah, so I probably wouldn't do it quite like that,
but this reminded me so much of and also like
every office is different, Like you come to the mum
and mea office, Like people are picking stuff up of
other people's desks, like you know, I'm going over and
I'm spraying your perfume. Like it's just a different environment.
But I once I will never forget. Once in our
(16:44):
old office, I had my GHD glide straight in and
brush like plugged in at my desk so I could
do my hair before work. And one time I came
into the office one morning and it was like you
know when someone bows a heat tool and they like
they wrap the cord up around and it's like, so
they unplugged it, wrapped it up, put it on the desk.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
It was covered in blonde hair. Obviously I'm a ranger.
Speaker 5 (17:08):
I don't have blonde hair, so it was like someone's
used this, they haven't asked me to use it, and
then they've left it on my desk with all their
hair in it, and I was like, like, you could
have just pulled the hair out.
Speaker 6 (17:20):
I just said, hey, babe, do you mind if I So.
Speaker 5 (17:24):
I really empathize with Julia, but I'd probably say, like,
take your really fancy hand like expense, I if we're
talking like a Birado hand cream or something like that's
for your nightstand. Probably like the easiest way to solve
this is to just like replace it with another really
beautiful looking, affordable hand cream, so you still get that
(17:47):
nice glimmer in your day. But then it's kind of
like if somebody is like and also when you're applying
to hand cream at work and it smells really beautiful,
like I'm probably going to turn around be like.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
Oh that, oh that smells nice.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Yeah. I don't think that we can gate keep hand
cream in an office.
Speaker 6 (18:03):
Well, of course we can.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
You can have whatever boundaries you want, but I agree,
just get like a more affordable one, keep you a
nice one for at home or your home office, and
just yeah, share the hand cream around the lip bum
on the other hand.
Speaker 6 (18:17):
No way, yuck.
Speaker 5 (18:18):
That is like, that's like go to HR please, I do.
Speaker 6 (18:22):
Not share lip bum with my sister.
Speaker 8 (18:25):
Yuck.
Speaker 6 (18:25):
That is I agree straight to Joy.
Speaker 5 (18:27):
I think I'm in shock too, just thinking about like
a colleague using my lip bum.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
I'm so intimate and really gross, like that's bad germs.
I think a more polite way of dealing with it
than just shouting at her so jokingly non jokingly said,
just hate once again, Like I said with the husband.
Think things don't have to be confrontational. I think sometimes
(18:52):
we build things up in our head more than they
need to be. Next time she comes over and ask
to borrow your things, you just say, don't mind using
my hand cremb please don't borrow my lip bum. I
just find it really gross. I don't want to share
lip bums or turn it around onto yourself. Say I wouldn't.
I've got a cold, saw or I'm getting a flu. Yeah,
just make yourself out to be the gross one. Why
(19:14):
would you want to use your things?
Speaker 4 (19:15):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (19:15):
Fall on the sword like and send her this episode. Yeah,
so have you heard this great podcast?
Speaker 3 (19:21):
It's called You Beauty.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Now, I just I don't see a problem with borrowing
hands cream, although I completely agree why it would bother
you when it's an expensive one, So let's just swap
that out.
Speaker 6 (19:30):
But they're blip bomb.
Speaker 5 (19:32):
Yeah yeah, not okay, And that brings us to the
end of the fix. So we've basically solved everyone's problems
and if yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
Well we can't do everything.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
But if you've got a dilemma that you want us
to fix, please send them in. You can email us
at you Beauty at momamea dot com.
Speaker 6 (19:51):
Are you We'll see you next time. Bye.
You're listening to a MoMA Mia podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Mama Miya acknowledges the traditional owners of land and waters
that this podcast is recorded on Hey friends, we try
and always be real with you here and also over
on you, beauty.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
So I want to tell you about something exciting.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
It's called the Fix, and it's on you, beauty, and
it's for those moments where you're too embarrassed to ask anyone,
like how to properly wash your face or that weird
thing your body is doing at two am.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
It's like Q and A, but we're going there.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Amy Clark and Kelly McCarran are basically your new besties
or agony arts who happen to have all the answers
that you're too mortified to ask or even google.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
They're serving up honest.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
No bullshit advice that will make you hopefully think it's
not a complete disaster after all. Think of it like
your beauty therapy session, but with more laughs and zero judgment, because,
let's face it, we're all just swinging it, aren't we.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
I still am.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Trust me, your future self will thank you for hitting play.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
Makeup is my therapy.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
I'm I'm obsessed and I don't even feel guilty about it.
Speaker 5 (01:19):
Hello, welcome to you Beauty, the podcast for your Face,
and welcome to The Fix.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
My name is Amy Clark, and with.
Speaker 5 (01:25):
Me today Kelley McCarron, and today we are here to
solve life's little beauty dilemmas, the kind of stuff that
you're too embarrassed to ask anyone else.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
Ask us.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
You have to ask us, because there is no team
I hear. We are your beauty agony aunts. If you will,
every now and then, sometimes when you least expect it,
we are going to pop into your eyes and ears
with one of these the Fixed episodes, ready to take
on the messiest, most awkward and cringe worthy problems.
Speaker 6 (01:53):
In your makeup bag.
Speaker 5 (01:54):
And beyond this episode, we are tackling the unspoken rules
of cosmetic injectibles.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Do you owe people.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
A full confession?
Speaker 5 (02:04):
We're also diving into a very hairy situation with a
listener's boyfriend.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Plus, we are solving the case of the office hand
hand crim gate.
Speaker 6 (02:14):
Was it you? Probably? But first our beauty headlines.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
This is the Beauty Edit.
Speaker 7 (02:20):
I'm cass Mom and me as morning editor, and I'm
here to unpack all the biggest trends. Consider this you'r
weekly download of everything you missed in the beauty world.
Speaker 8 (02:29):
And I'm Sophie, the producer of you Beauty, and I'm
here to ask all the questions you're wondering on your behalf.
So let's get into it, Cass, what's the first big
trend we need to talk about?
Speaker 7 (02:38):
So, Kim Kardashian is closing her skincare brand, Skin by
Kim Wait.
Speaker 8 (02:43):
So Kim is shutting down her beauty line already. Didn't
that only launch a few years ago?
Speaker 4 (02:47):
You're right?
Speaker 7 (02:47):
So, so Skin launched in twenty twenty two as this
kind of glossy, luxury skincare brand. It was also a
rebrand of her previous labels, which you'll probably remember as
KKW Beauty and KKW Fragrance. So at the time, Kim
was kind of looking for something that was a one
brand beauty empire, and this was supposed to encompass skincare, makeup, fragrance, nails.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
That sort of stuff.
Speaker 7 (03:10):
And it was done in partnership with Cody, which is
a really big beauty giant who owns a bunch of
really amazing brands. And it was designed as a nine
product skin care line and later expanded to makeup, but
so if the reality was that it never really landed.
The nine products, which included cleanser, tona exfoliator, herolonic acid,
vitamin C, face cream, I cream oil, dropped night oil.
(03:31):
There's a reason that I'm taking a breath there. There
is so much there, and together it cost six hundred
and seventy three USD, which is around one thousand dollars AUD.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
So even the fans that.
Speaker 7 (03:42):
Really loved Kim couldn't justify that kind of price tag.
So in twenty twenty four she tried to turn things around.
She sort of didn't let it die, then added some makeup,
but even then it just didn't really take off.
Speaker 8 (03:53):
Yeah, okay, I definitely wouldn't pay that.
Speaker 7 (03:55):
No, I know, I think it's quite excessive, especially because
if you consider so many celebrity luxury brands are kind
of in that middle range.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
So this was a bit of a step at the time.
Speaker 8 (04:03):
So what happened was it just too expensive.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
That was kind of a big part of it.
Speaker 7 (04:07):
And the products were nice, but I feel like they
weren't that unique, especially for that kind of price range.
So Bethany Frankel, who is on the Real Housewives of
New York and makes lots of comments on social media
about various things, called it a rich person's game, and
I think that kind of sums this one up. And
then you've got Kim herself. So she's already juggling her
four billion dollar Skims empire, four kids, finishing a law program,
(04:29):
and now she's actually going to start in Ryan Murphy's
new series All Fair. So she has a lot going on.
And I think in this instance, a sluggish beauty label
just really wasn't worth her bandwidth.
Speaker 8 (04:39):
Okay, So wasn't this in a partnership, Yes.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
It was so behind the scenes.
Speaker 7 (04:43):
Coti, who originally partnered with her, sold their stake at
a loss earlier this year, So that kind of led
to this official note on the website saying that it
closed down on June twenty ninth.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
Of this year.
Speaker 8 (04:53):
Okay, Kassid, does that mean that this is the end
of Kim Kardashian in beauty?
Speaker 7 (04:56):
Look, it's a good question, but I think the answer
is not quite. The industry is already talking about Skims
Beauty on the horizon potentially for next year in twenty
twenty six, and that actually makes a lot of sense
if you consider skims as a cultural juggernaut. It's not
just shapewear anymore. It's loungewear, it's swim, it's men's wear.
Speaker 6 (05:15):
And it's gone global.
Speaker 7 (05:16):
So it makes sense to put her new beauty foray,
whatever that may be, under the Skim's umbrella and tapping
into her existing customer base.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
So my thoughts, so that Skin by Kim may have.
Speaker 7 (05:27):
Flopped, but this feels like less of a failure and
a bit more of a strategic pivot.
Speaker 8 (05:32):
Okay, right, So it's Kimmy Kaye trimming the fat so
you can make a bigger comeback.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
I'd say.
Speaker 5 (05:36):
So.
Speaker 7 (05:36):
I think she's cut in the dead weight and then
she's gonna come back bigger and better than ever. Sophie,
I have some devastating news. The internet is saying that
MATCHA is messing with our hair.
Speaker 8 (05:46):
Wait what hold on, don't come for my morning match a, cass?
What is going on here?
Speaker 7 (05:51):
So Matcha is everywhere right now, and all the hot
girls are drinking it on their walks.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
It's Oliver Pinterest and.
Speaker 7 (05:57):
Even I have to say it looks very chic when
you've got one in your hand. But a viral Instagram
reel had people spiraling, and it came from holistic beauty
expert Michelle Ranavat. So she said that her hair started
falling out because she was drinking too much of it.
Speaker 8 (06:11):
Oh my god, Okay, how much is too much? What
does that mean exactly?
Speaker 7 (06:14):
I mean the main ingredient in matcha that's causing a
fuss is something called a tannin, which is a naturally
occurring polyphonolic compound. They're saying that it could block iron absorption,
and low iron is correlated to thinning and shedding. But
as we know, there's quite a difference between correlation and causation.
Speaker 8 (06:32):
So we're saying that my morning beloved green latte is
going to make me bald.
Speaker 7 (06:36):
Well, Not exactly, So Mamma Mia spoke to the experts
on this one to debunk it. We spoke with doctor
James Hook, who's really well known in the wellness and
health world, and he said that basically any food or
drink in excess could impact our health. So matcha isn't
directly causing our hair loss. However, if you already have
low iron, it might not be a bad idea to
(06:57):
drink a little less or time your intake better For
those that are already low in iron, it could worseen
the deficiency or potentially trigger something called intelligent effluvium, which
you may know is a type of temporary shit and
hair loss, but it's actually not a new phenomenon, Sophie.
Speaker 8 (07:13):
So it's not just my match to them.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
No, So doctors have.
Speaker 7 (07:16):
Actually recommended keeping tea and coffee at least one to
two hours away from meals that are iron rich or
if you're taking iron supplements, and they basically say to
take the supplements on an empty stomach. So if you're
low in iron and you're trying to eat a breakfast
sausage in the morning, maybe have your match out a
little later in the day.
Speaker 8 (07:33):
So basically, don't chug a Marcher with your steak dinner.
Speaker 7 (07:36):
It's more of your iron deficient to just be mindful
making sure you're eating your iron rich foods on an
empty stomach and monitoring your levels and consulting a doctor
if you're a bit worried. So the bottom line is, no,
you don't need to break up with your March just yet,
but make sure to drink it smarter. That's your beauty
headlines for this week. Now, let's get into your beauty
dilemmas with Kelly and Amy.
Speaker 6 (07:56):
This one has come from a listener named Jen so.
Speaker 5 (07:59):
Gendm Us, saying, I recently had a small cosmetic enhancement
to my lips and lines just to just screet touch up,
and I absolutely love it. The change is super subtle
and natural, but it still makes me feel.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
Like I'm hiding something.
Speaker 5 (08:11):
I have a friend who's completely open about her tweaks.
If someone compliments her lips, she'll say straight away, thanks,
I got them done. I admire that honesty, but I'm
not sure I want to be that transparent. So do
I have to tell people? Do I owe them that information?
Speaker 6 (08:25):
What is the etiquette?
Speaker 5 (08:27):
I feel like you are the perfect person to talk
about this, because yeah, but I last thing you were like,
I want to answer first.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
Oh, like she's going to come in with some opinions. Oho.
Speaker 5 (08:38):
I totally get why gen feels this way, because we
do expect transparency when it comes to injectibles and tweatments,
but it's from people that are profiting from the way
they look or that it's part of their brand, So
you know, like it's so different for someone who is
in the public eye versus the average person. Like, I
(08:58):
don't expect the average person to tell me what tweatments
they've had.
Speaker 8 (09:02):
Do you know?
Speaker 3 (09:04):
I mean, if I ask them point blank, what have
you done?
Speaker 1 (09:07):
Well, if someone looks vastly different, of course it's none
of my business. But if I ask and you're not
transparent and I know you well, then you're kind of
a little bit you're not.
Speaker 6 (09:16):
A girl's girl.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
I just don't think however, no, no, no, no, no,
I'm saying, if I know you quite well, that's it.
Speaker 5 (09:23):
It's like like, am I going to tell someone that
I literally met today, like my entire cosmetic history.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
I'm probably not.
Speaker 9 (09:30):
Yeah, and they did, they wouldn't ask, well, this is
what I've had done exactly down to the mills literally,
but where like probably not the best litmus test for
like how the average person might talk about it.
Speaker 5 (09:45):
But in my friendship circle, I think because it's like
in the same way that you share recommendations and information,
you know, like the great pair of boots that you've found,
or like have you been to this plate studio, this restaurant,
It's kind of like I feel like I love sharing
information in that way with my friends, so I have
no you know, I'll be like, oh, yeah, I did
this and this and this, But it's also completely fine
(10:08):
not to so, Jen, you actually don't owe anybody that information.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
You don't owe anyone anything about your body, about what
you've had done, about anything. However, that's how I see
it on one hand. But on the other hand, my
comment about being a girl's girl is simply if someone
says to you, oh, my goodness, your lips look fantastic
and you have had filler, I just think it's a
little bit disingenuous personally to say, well, I mean, you
(10:37):
can just say thanks, true, you can just say thanks,
But if you're allowing that person to believe that it
was just how you will mother nature mother nature, or
just a particular lip product that you're using, that's what
I think is a little bit disingenuous. However, it also
is still not that person's business, true, Like it doesn't
(11:01):
you don't owe anyone anything.
Speaker 5 (11:03):
Yeah, it's always as long as you're not like causing harm.
And also like, yeah, it's comes down to like the who,
the context, all of that kind of stuff. If anything,
I'd almost say to Jen, it's probably worth just like
she said that she loves how it looks that she's
so happy with the results. It's more kind of like, oh,
I wonder like why she like feels a little bit
(11:26):
uncomfy about like if she would tell her friends or not,
because it's kind of like if it's from a place
of like, oh I feel like a bit shameful that
I've had this thing done, then like maybe that's worth interrogating.
But if you're just a super private person, then lack
power to you.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Yeah, and you don't have to at all. And I'm
not saying that you're not a girl's girl at all.
Like it's so as you said, it's within context, Like, yeah,
I think what bothers me is I always think about
it purely from it's when a public person promotes lip
bum Yeah, this makes my lips look like this, and
(12:02):
they've had three meals of filler and a lip flip
and potentially a few tweakments around their mouth. That's what
I just think is really deceiving and bad behavior and
poor form towards other women.
Speaker 6 (12:15):
But yeah, if you're just private, don't worry about it.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Don't overthink things too much that don't affect other people.
Speaker 5 (12:27):
Now, for our second question, we have an anonymous submission,
one from Melbourne. It's not me, by the way, because
I live in Melbourne.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
My partner has a beard and it's a total mess.
It looks unkempt, and he just uses my standard champoon
it which makes it feel dry and wiry. I'm honestly
so put off by it. How do I convince him
to use a proper beard products without hurting his feelings
or making it a whole thing. I'm sorry to giggle,
but I just I'm honestly so put off by it.
That line is like it's giving me the eck.
Speaker 5 (12:57):
Yeah, but honestly, but there's a whole bunch of ways.
I'm sure that you could say this with nuance and whatever,
but I would literally say, and I'm pretty sure I
have said this to my husband. I like kissing you
better when you've had a fresh shave, don't give me
a beard, rush my face or badge. Like like, I'm
gonna throw that information out there and then it's his
(13:18):
you know, he can do with that what he will do.
You want to kiss me more, then let's shave. Let's
look after the facial hair, because like, and that's coming
from me like, or if you've ever like you get
easily irritated skin, like I need to not look like
Sharon Strzleki when I'm out and about with a massive
pass rush exactly.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
That's just such a good way to look at it,
Just really good advice. You don't have to hurt their feelings.
Just say, hey, your beard is really rough and it
hurts my face.
Speaker 6 (13:45):
Do you want to pass me? Yes or no? Except
then if he shaves it. You've really got to like passion.
Speaker 5 (13:50):
Oh yes, And this listener has said that their partner
has a beard. It's a bit different but easy fix,
like to keep a beard maintained and like, I don't know, it.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Depends how sensitive happens and how bushy. Most people surely
are open to a little bit of criticism about that. Like, hey, babe,
I brought you some bead oil. It's just you can
do it really casually, in a non confrontational way. Babe,
I picked up this beard oil for you because the
last time you gave me a schmooch it kind of
hurt me. Can you just start using this? I think
it'll Like I read an article it's really good something
(14:22):
like that.
Speaker 6 (14:23):
Yeah, just drop it. Into casual conversation. Doesn't have to
be a big thing.
Speaker 5 (14:26):
It also doesn't have to be like a specific beard product, like,
for example, like the face oil that I love, Like
he can use that too on his facial hair. I'm
talking as someone who has like I'm always skip.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
Yeah I still have a beard, and well.
Speaker 5 (14:42):
Actually, funnily enough, yeah, my husband does like to comment
on how my little mustache glints in the sunlight sometimes,
but you know, it's very soft, so it doesn't cause
him a shape. But another little hack that I use
is I'll just like send I don't know if you
send your partner like tiktoks or Instagram memes and things
(15:02):
like that, just send some pictures of like, you know,
men with facial hair that you think looks nice.
Speaker 6 (15:09):
And so send them across.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
They'll get the hint.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Producer Soaf has just given us such an additional great tip.
When they're not near you just starts screaming into their
phone so that they listen and then start serving ads.
Speaker 6 (15:23):
I need a beard oil, I need a soft.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Beard, scratchy beard, help please help me.
Speaker 6 (15:29):
And that was great advice.
Speaker 5 (15:31):
So the work borrower, all right, So listener Julia has
asked there's a colleague at my office who is constantly
quote unquote borrowing my lip, arm and hand cream. I'm sorry,
(15:51):
but that person needs to go to jail. I keep
my desk stocked with my favorite expensive products, and she
always asks to use them. How do I get her
to stop without making it awkward every time she asks?
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Let us both say how we would approach this situation.
Speaker 4 (16:06):
Um, it's me.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Being the person I am Oi jaila jawls.
Speaker 6 (16:14):
Don't get your dirty mits off my things.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
What if I had a cold saw your dirty bitch.
Speaker 6 (16:20):
What if you have a cold saw your dirty bitch.
Speaker 5 (16:22):
Yeah, so I probably wouldn't do it quite like that,
but this reminded me so much of and also like
every office is different, Like you come to the mum
and mea office, Like people are picking stuff up of
other people's desks, like you know, I'm going over and
I'm spraying your perfume. Like it's just a different environment.
But I once I will never forget. Once in our
(16:44):
old office, I had my GHD glide straight in and
brush like plugged in at my desk so I could
do my hair before work. And one time I came
into the office one morning and it was like you
know when someone bows a heat tool and they like
they wrap the cord up around and it's like, so
they unplugged it, wrapped it up, put it on the desk.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
It was covered in blonde hair. Obviously I'm a ranger.
Speaker 5 (17:08):
I don't have blonde hair, so it was like someone's
used this, they haven't asked me to use it, and
then they've left it on my desk with all their
hair in it, and I was like, like, you could
have just pulled the hair out.
Speaker 6 (17:20):
I just said, hey, babe, do you mind if I So.
Speaker 5 (17:24):
I really empathize with Julia, but I'd probably say, like,
take your really fancy hand like expense, I if we're
talking like a Birado hand cream or something like that's
for your nightstand. Probably like the easiest way to solve
this is to just like replace it with another really
beautiful looking, affordable hand cream, so you still get that
(17:47):
nice glimmer in your day. But then it's kind of
like if somebody is like and also when you're applying
to hand cream at work and it smells really beautiful,
like I'm probably going to turn around be like.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
Oh that, oh that smells nice.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Yeah. I don't think that we can gate keep hand
cream in an office.
Speaker 6 (18:03):
Well, of course we can.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
You can have whatever boundaries you want, but I agree,
just get like a more affordable one, keep you a
nice one for at home or your home office, and
just yeah, share the hand cream around the lip bum
on the other hand.
Speaker 6 (18:17):
No way, yuck.
Speaker 5 (18:18):
That is like, that's like go to HR please, I do.
Speaker 6 (18:22):
Not share lip bum with my sister.
Speaker 8 (18:25):
Yuck.
Speaker 6 (18:25):
That is I agree straight to Joy.
Speaker 5 (18:27):
I think I'm in shock too, just thinking about like
a colleague using my lip bum.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
I'm so intimate and really gross, like that's bad germs.
I think a more polite way of dealing with it
than just shouting at her so jokingly non jokingly said,
just hate once again, Like I said with the husband.
Think things don't have to be confrontational. I think sometimes
(18:52):
we build things up in our head more than they
need to be. Next time she comes over and ask
to borrow your things, you just say, don't mind using
my hand cremb please don't borrow my lip bum. I
just find it really gross. I don't want to share
lip bums or turn it around onto yourself. Say I wouldn't.
I've got a cold, saw or I'm getting a flu. Yeah,
just make yourself out to be the gross one. Why
(19:14):
would you want to use your things?
Speaker 4 (19:15):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (19:15):
Fall on the sword like and send her this episode. Yeah,
so have you heard this great podcast?
Speaker 3 (19:21):
It's called You Beauty.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Now, I just I don't see a problem with borrowing
hands cream, although I completely agree why it would bother
you when it's an expensive one, So let's just swap
that out.
Speaker 6 (19:30):
But they're blip bomb.
Speaker 5 (19:32):
Yeah yeah, not okay, And that brings us to the
end of the fix. So we've basically solved everyone's problems
and if yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
Well we can't do everything.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
But if you've got a dilemma that you want us
to fix, please send them in. You can email us
at you Beauty at momamea dot com.
Speaker 6 (19:51):
Are you We'll see you next time. Bye.
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