October 5, 2025 • 26 mins
Think touching up your makeup is as simple as dabbing on some powder? Think again! Leigh & Kelly are breaking down the art of midday touch-ups, from why translucent powders are your best friend to the genius volcanic stone roller that'll change your oily T-zone game forever. They're revealing why your foundation might be separating (hint: it's all about the layering technique) and sharing the $2.50 blotting papers that models swear by.
Then they're solving the mystery of makeup that peels in the weirdest places - you know, that one spot near your temple that just won't behave. The girls are serving up some hard truths about neglected skincare areas and why your chemical exfoliant might be the hero your hairline desperately needs.
EVERYTHING MENTIONED:
Invisimatte Instant Setting & Blotting Powder • 8.5g - Universal $27
No-Sebum Mineral Powder (New Version) - 5g - $9.50
MP Cosmetics Blotting Paper 1 Pack $6.00
Revlon Beauty Tool Volcanic Stone Facial Roller $7.99
MECCA MAX Retractable Travel Brush $20.00
Paula's Choice Travel Size 2% BHA Liquid Exfoliant $19.00
NuFACE Prep-N-Glow 5 Individually Packed Cloths $17.00
First Aid Beauty Facial Radiance Pads - 28 pads Compostable $34.00
Dermalogica Daily Microfoliant - Travel $32.00
My Story About How Sonya Dakar Permanently Damaged My Face
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
You're listening to a MoMA Mia podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Mamma Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and waters
that this podcast is recorded on Hello friends, it's Lee here,
and it's a lovely Monday. Well it's better because I've
got a great episode of You Beauty that I want
you to listen to. Kelly and I have some genius
tips if I do say so myself, that's going to
help you make more of an effort on Monday.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
So have a listen.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Makeup is my therapy.
Speaker 4 (00:36):
I'm in love, I'm obsess and I don't even feel
guilty about it.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Hello, and welcome to You Beauty. I am Lee Campbell,
I'm Kelly McCarron.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
And before we get into today's show, let's see what's
happening in the world of beauty.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
You look like a real news reader saying I do.
Speaker 5 (00:54):
This is the Beauty Edit, your weekly download of everything
you missed in the beauty world. I'm Amy Clark, mom
and me is lifestyle editor and tinted lipbum lover.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
And I'm Cas Green mom and me is Morning editor
and I forgot Miscara today. Anyway, here's what's trending.
Speaker 5 (01:09):
Forget your face. You can now try micro needling hair products.
So something that was not on my beauty bingo card
for twenty twenty five but definitely should have been micro
needling shampoo. From the same Korean skincare brand that brought
us that viral micro needling in a bottle Reedle serum
comes a scalp shampoo that promises a cleaner scalp and
(01:31):
healthier hair.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Juna Zoo reviewed the new.
Speaker 5 (01:34):
VT Cosmetics PDRN Reedleshot Scalp shampoo on mammamea dot com
de au and wrote that her scalp has never felt
so fresh. What did you think when we first published
this storycast.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
Look Amy, The formula is really interesting because it contains
a lot of buzzy kind of ingredients, the first being
something called PDRN otherwise known as salmon DNA, but in
this case it's actually a plant derived version. So it
also has the brand's Reedle shot microspicules, which for the
uninitiated are kind of crystallized ultra fine needle like structures
(02:05):
about fourteen times smaller than a single paw on your face.
Juna says these don't but they do help to remove
dead skin cells and create microscopic channels in your scalp
skin for better ingredient absorption.
Speaker 5 (02:17):
It is just another example of that skinnification of all
of the categories. But as someone who doesn't wash their
hair without a scalp step ever, I would one hundred
percent try this. I have seen people who dorm or
roll their scalp and this looks like a lot less effort.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Plus, it feels much.
Speaker 5 (02:34):
More low risk than the reedal face serum because it's in.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
A wash off format for my head.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
Louis Vuitton has just launched its first ever makeup line,
Love You Tay Woo Woo So, with legendary British makeup
artist Dame Pat McGrath leading the creative direction. The line
features refillable high end products, including an eye shadow palette
and lipsticks in Balm, satin and Matt finishes. So this
collection is a lot more luxury airlooms than makeup products.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
The main catch is the price.
Speaker 5 (03:04):
I am like low key obsessed with the fact that
in twenty twenty five, with cost of living, not only
are Louis Vaton's beauty products to luxury for the everyday person,
but they're also too luxury.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
For the luxury beauty category.
Speaker 5 (03:19):
As Business of Beauty put it four hundred and twenty
dollars for an eyeshadow quad or a seven hundred and
sixty five dollar monogram LV cosmetic lipstick pouch is quote
in an entirely new galaxy of inaccessibility. For context, let's
compare some luxury lipsticks on the market, So do your lipsticks.
(03:39):
They start at the lower end of the scale at
sixty nine dollars, Chanelle from seventy five, tom Ford from
eighty eight dollars, and the Ermez lipsticks are one hundred
and eleven dollars. There's also Patmogra's eponymous line costs seventy dollars,
while this Louis Vaton lipstick sits at two hundred and
sixty five dollars.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
Well, yeah, it's quite shocking and quality wise, there is
absolutely no doubt that any Patmograth formula is going to
be impeccable and what you're paying for it is an innovation,
but a piece of fashion and beauty history.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
They're essentially collectus.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
Items and we're all going to want one in our bag,
but can we afford it?
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Who knows? Absolutely not.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
It's an interesting choice to take this route when Traditionally
luxury beauty products have been priced as a kind of
entry point into fashion houses. So you can also buy
these direct from lou Vaton, but we're yet to see
where Elsi's might be ranged in Australia.
Speaker 5 (04:31):
Can AI replace your dermatologist? Lareo is kind of asking
us to consider this. Recently, they have launched their own
beauty genius AI Skin Assistant. It's different to a virtual
try on, which has been around for a while, where
you can kind of virtually try on a lipstick, shade
or a foundation through AI on various beauty websites. Now
you can actually do a skin consultation through your smartphone,
(04:54):
kind of like a skin therapist, kind of like a
dermal clinician in your pocket. I mean, working in media,
we are all very sensitive about how AI could be coming.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
For our jobs.
Speaker 5 (05:04):
Cas, do you think dermatologists should be worried?
Speaker 4 (05:07):
Look, Amy, I think there's always going to be a
place for dermatologists. There's really no getting over their kind
of expertise. But I do think it's a really fun
new tool. I think most of us are feeling super
overwhelmed when it comes to beauty and skincare. Most of
us are googling actives like crazy and looking up ingredients
in our various products. So I think a way to
kind of decode that at home makes a lot of
(05:29):
sense as a kind of replacement for your Google search
or your own kind of research that you might do
and like. This particular app has over one hundred and
fifty thousand annotations from dermatologists and supposedly delivers up to
ninety five percent accuracy, So I would say is probably
better than Google, but it's definitely not going to be
better than your dermatologists. They go to school for a reason.
(05:49):
They're amazing at what they do. We love them, so yeah,
it's not about to replace them, but it's a nice
little addition to your beauty regime. Now you're up to date,
let's get into all your beauty Q and a's with
Lee and Kelly.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
I couldn't help, but wonder asked me anything. You ask
many questions, potty question. It's coming through from our instat
would love to hear how the collective? How are you
touching up your makeup during the day? Is powder still
a thing? How do I know which powder to use?
Do I choose the same brand and color as my
foundation or is there some universal touch up powder that
(06:24):
everyone is using. Help. I have dry skin, but I
get a shine going through the day as my makeup
wears off.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Well that's good because we can both probably help because
I'm a powder girl expert and you're dry.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
But do you ever touch up with a powder?
Speaker 1 (06:38):
I don't touch up, but I do.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
Oh I do?
Speaker 1 (06:41):
I do?
Speaker 3 (06:41):
I do?
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Okay, as we will talk about like obviously I'm still going.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
I did my makeup on Saturday, it's now Monday. Can
you imagine, Oh my god, I drop.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
I actually think that my makeup would still slap. It
does not move, I can imagine. And you know how
some products are like seventy two hour ware. I'm like,
why if you're bendering, that's why.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
No, that is not appropriate. You should still wash your
face anyway. Yes, my lovely Instagram friend, powder is such
a thing. And I think maybe you're thinking back because
you say, do I choose the same brand than color
as my foundation. That's a bit a bygone era where
you kind of used to see women open a compact
and it was you know, skin tone color, and oftentimes
(07:21):
if you still see those, they're a powdered foundation not
really kind of a touchup. You want something translucent and
truly translucent. I am the boss of that because I
need to touch up throughout the day. I have been
out with Kelly and I think even Mia, and I've
just sat there with blotting papers on my face. So
as it warms up, I definitely need to do this too.
I'm combo, so the sides of my face are actually
(07:43):
getting dryer and dryer as I get more experienced, but
the center remains combination.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
Oily, Can I make some recommendation?
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Please do?
Speaker 3 (07:52):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (07:53):
The fenty Beauty in Usy Matt instant setting and blotting
powder is fantastic. You can get a little size for
twenty seven dollars, so that's a pressed powder. Ain't nobody
got time? Well maybe people do, but I don't do
a loose powder when im mountain about because it's just
way too messy. So that's really good. Another one that
I really really love is the inners Free no Sebam
(08:14):
mineral powder. There's two versions, so if you're looking online,
the new version is new Little travel Guy, but you
only ever need travel in these situations. Firstly, because you
said you're touching up but secondly, you're never gonna go
through it all. It's nine dollars fifty. I love it,
and you're gonna need if you're gonna use one of those.
(08:34):
You want a little brush if you're gonna do a
pressed powder thing, ease. Some of them come with that
little puffy thing. But meno liky don't know because it's
you can't really, I just don't like it.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
I mean you might.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
So two brush recommendations to go with your powder that
you're taking in your handbag. The Mecha Max retractable travel brush.
It's just one of those boo but it's gonna lid
because you don't want brush in your makeup bag. That's
then gonna dirty it. Twenty bucks or on Amazon three
pack retractable brush. So it's like three little face brushes.
So you might use one like you're a cream girl.
(09:06):
You could use one for cream products. You could use
one for you know, bronze or whatever, and one for
setting powder. Sixteen touch up if you want to. Some
people want to touch up their cream contour. Well, I
just think do it right the first time. You won't
have to anyway. Just get three brushes and then you've
got one in rotation when you're washing it. Another thing
I want to tell you about is blotting paper. I
(09:27):
feel like you, my dry friend who just gets a
bit shiny. Blotting paper is perfect. It's literally a little
rectangle of like it looks like baking paper, and it's
got the tiniest film of translucent powder and you just
blot like that comes in a really thin little packet.
They're wonderful. Models prefer has some blotting papers. Unpack is
six dollars. My favorites are from Muji, Themoji Face blotting
(09:50):
cosmetic paper two dollars fifty.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
Oh one more thing.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
There's lots of them, but I like the Revlon one,
The Revlon Beauty Tool Volcanic Stone facial roller. Yes, it's
this little It kind of looks like a makeup brush,
I guess, but then the head's like a little it
looks like a marble, like a stone marble. It's made
out of volcanic rock, which is really porous and absorbs oil,
so you just roll it over your oily bit.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Because that's what I'm thinking. Given that she said that
she's dry, I actually don't think that her makeup is
wearing off during the day if you're priming and then
layering properly.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
So do you think she could fix this problem at application?
It depends because some people are face touches me. So
if you touch your face all day like you rest
your hands. You said that I want to touch my Yes,
then of course your makeup's going to start separating and
coming off a little bit in those areas.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
But she's saying she's just getting shiny.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Yeah, that's what I agree with you. I think just
a blotting paper.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Oh, she does say, as my makeup wears off. But yes,
if you're layering your products.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
The difference between I think that I could do my
makeup and it would look the same between ten minutes
and twenty minutes. The difference is like I've got time
to do it, Yes, Like I could do the same
look to the naked eye. Yeah, in ten minutes or
twenty minutes. But when I spend the time and lay
up my products properly and spend time, my makeup will
(11:16):
not move. Like I will go play netball after a
full day of recording and my makeup is still pretty good.
The only place that it tends to move at the
moment is my upper lip because of hey fever season.
So I'm blowing my nose a lot, that's it, and
I eat and drink, so my lips around there, but
the rest of my face it doesn't move. And if
I was.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
Going to touch what are these steps, lady.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Well, for everyone it would be different, but for me,
it's like just taking the time doing my skin care
and then waiting a little bit.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Waiting is a lot of it because I think you go,
you know, skincare, sunscreen, foundation, and it's like everything's fine,
but it starts peeling off and wearing off a lot
quicker because you haven't allowed it.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
To think of it.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
When you're trying to paint your own nails, you've got
a let it dry between steps.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
It goes glug city.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Exactly as soon as you touch anything. So and then
I will always prime, and then I start with my.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Creen to not prime miss a crime crime.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
And then I'll always start with all of my cream
products and not use heaps of them, but lay out
after your foundation. After I've primed, and then crime, then foundation,
then like my conceal is my cream contour, my cream blush.
Then I will set everything with the equivalent powder products.
So in the areas that I've cream contoured, I will
(12:32):
bronze whoa like It takes twenty minutes, not ten minutes,
but it lasts all day. And then if I am like.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
When do you do your setting spray last like a
Charlotte to every setting spray.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
I don't usually do it at the end of doing
my makeup. I'll just do it throughout the day to
sort of refresh my skin and make it look a
little bit glowier. And if I have got movement around
my mouth, I just sort of like press a dirty
concealer brush into the area without I do that done
to it, or I just cause you have fingers and
warm I kind of just smooge when it comes back.
(13:03):
And I also think that you need to remember that
no one's looking at your facely as closely as you are,
So though you think that you're make up separating and
wearing off in different no one's noticing. But also we
do it for us, so of course, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
but no one else is going to look at you
in as much detail, and why are we looking it up?
Like if I looked at my makeup right now, actually closely,
I'd find a lot wrong with it.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Well, you've been out since Saturday, I have. Yeah, that's
try one of those powders. Get a travel size, try
something affordable. But yeah, these truly translucent. They're called universally translucent.
They are actually clear, yes, exactly, and anyone can use them.
Maybe not the deeper skin tones. I think they've got
really nice translucent powders. It aren't white because they can
(13:44):
do a bit of a white cast, do they Yeah,
but for a lot of skin tones you can use
the translucent white ones. But then they do have specific
ones for darker skin tones.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
Excellent, Okay.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Naomi sent us the question, this is another makeup question,
because you know what we often find, we get a
lot of skin questions, you know, year round, but then
coming out to spring what we call.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
The party season.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
I've seen that this is going to be playful makeup summer.
Like people are saying that people are going to be
having fun. That doesn't mean you have to.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
Okay, well I want to. I feel left out anyway.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Naomi asked us the following question, Hello, I have a
makeup challenge.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
So as a girl in the know, I do what
girls do.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Challenge I think she means like problem problem, so at
if you will an undrum. So, as a girl in
the know, I do what girls do and head to
your beauty podcast for answers. I'm finding my makeup is pilling,
but only on one side of my face, between my
eyeline and my temple. It's the combination of serum, moisturizer, sunscreen, primer,
(14:52):
and tinted BB cream. That's its well everywhere on my face,
but those two spots. It's Pillar Paloosa. I love her,
She's got personality. Is it a combination of layers, poor
application technique? I use my fingers and a foundation brush,
not pouncing a sponge. She doesn't pounce Kelly, Kelly's a pouncer.
I've got to get you pouncing in Or is it
just some sort of weird karmic revenge for all the
(15:14):
times I've parked badly?
Speaker 3 (15:16):
Please help? I know the answer?
Speaker 1 (15:18):
So do I?
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Oh, well you go first, Now you go. Well, we
might have different answers, but I have experienced such conundrum.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Oh okay, I just think that potentially there's a build
up of dead skin cells and old makeup in that area,
and so she needs to use a chemical exfolia ding
ding Ding.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
This happens to me here, see because also I have
the strangest hairline where I have like three millimeters between
my eyebrows and my hair.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
How many do I have?
Speaker 5 (15:43):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (15:44):
Way more? Remember when I.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Use that type and my hair joined my eyebrows and
I had to have it threaded. So I often neglect
that area because I, you know, doing my skincare and
whatever chemic soolion or my vitamin A, I often don't
even I offically do stuff to its skincare wise, but
not enough. And this happened to me when my makeup
was great. I knew all the layers, I know what
(16:06):
layers play well, but just these two, like my temple
pretty much or just above my browbone to my hair
was peeling. Yeah, because even if you think about if
you do have a lot of space, yeah, a lot
of the time we just sort of focus on that
center part of our face and we don't. I even
sometimes have to remind myself to do my skincare up
onto my ears, yes, like my especially sunscreen, sunscreen and exfoliation,
(16:30):
because that skin is really neglected. Okay exactly, And I'm
going to recommend some products, but use one of these
because I've got some just you know Bha. You want
to probably an Aha Bha blend, just because there's sounds
like there's a lot of dead skin cells to get
rid of.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
But some of the.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
Wipes, like I think a cloth wipe is really easy.
Here those doctor Dennis Gross ones that are so expensive, yes,
well I've got cheaper ones.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
Well are they? I mean they're not as expensive.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
The First Aid Beauty has like a little twenty eight
pad travel thing, and also there is the prep and
glow by New Face and they've got little individually packed cloths.
Can I tell you get one of these when you're
doing your little eyebrow bit, do is behind your ear.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
And look at it. It's disgusting.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
It's disgusting.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
And also do your back because we often don't scrub
our bot.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
I agree, but just like do this and then also
do in your ear and all around like this behind
here is foul. I do mind quite a lot because
I enjoy it. So long story short, Naomi, it's probably exfoliation,
so use you know anything that you've got at home.
If you've already got a chemical exfoliant. The Paula's Choice
BHA is great that now comes in a little travel size.
I related to travel sizes today. It's a great way
(17:40):
to try different things as well, isn't it? As I said,
the new face little wipes are great. So it's the
first day. They're like little discs, but you could also
try if you wanted something that's a bit more manual.
Although this has kind of enzymes in it is our
favorite Dermologica daily mycrofole Oh yes, which is.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
Like a little clay.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
You had a little bit of water and then you
can kind of custom.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Buff how much buffing you want, yeah, how much.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
Stuffing you want on your face?
Speaker 1 (18:05):
I completely agree. I actually think that that is the
only possible option as to what well.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
I literally had this problem both sides, and I was like,
what's going on? And this was a time where I
was using the consistent like serum, sunscreen, makeup. I knew
they worked well. I exfoliated ding ding fix it right up.
Please everyone go get a swipey or even just a
cotton pad and clean behind your ears and of your face.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
It's so much fun. Yeah, and just report back on
the difference that it makes.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
And also when you're in the shower, if you cleanse
in the shower or not make sure you cleanse your
ears as well.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
It's very important.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
I clean myase every day just because it feels so good.
I know it's not supposed to.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Oh yes, the ear buddy things, but no, I mean, like, actually,
not inside your ear drum. Does inside your ear drum
feel that's naughty? I know I like doing that with
tooth foss.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
We're not in my ear anyway.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
You're supposed to floss your teeth. That's good.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
Yeah, I know, but I like, oh, okay.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Okay, onto, beauty bite, beauty bite. I did not even
mean to have a segue, but mine's got to do
with tooth foss. I wish I brought some, but my
hair's up anyway. So frizz City's either raining and your
hair's frizzy, or it's getting humid and your hair's frizzy.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
Maybe not when I want.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
I know I'm weird, but obviously sometimes you can just
use product and a serum. You can use a toothbrush.
But did you know this is what I've done when
I've been in an emergency, a frizz emergency. Do you
have toothfloss with you? Like all the time?
Speaker 1 (19:35):
No, because I hate the feeling, and I never floss
my teeth. I'm fine. The dentist has not know.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
Well, look I'm a floss addict, and it's not great.
I normally have those little pixture things. But if you've
got regular toothfloss and you don't have any hair products,
you get a tiny bit of lip balm or something
and you put it on the floss.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
I wish I could do it.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Doesn't even already have like some product on.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
It's a bit waxy, but you know, we're working with frizzy, okay.
And then you put it. I put it on my
centerpart and then I go, h really firm.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
I bet that works a true it does.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
It's so satisfying. I mean, if you've got hairspray, great
or like whatever. But if you've really stuck on a
desert island with lip part and toothfloss and you're really
worried about your frizze, you know, because the island's great,
you literally get like a length of you know, a
couple of centimeters. Well what's that twenty centimeters? I don't know, yes,
and then like just like I just put like a
(20:24):
tiny bit of lip balm. I've got like a a
chuby lip barm on it and then you just hold
it where your parties are, where the frizze is quite firm,
like like you're putting a hat on, and then you
just slide it down the length of your hair and
it just MUSHes it. Yes, and then you're not getting
lots of juicy lip farm on your hands. But also
your hands are way too heavy handed because it's the
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tiniest string with the of lip balm, it just smushes
them down. But it's like nothing happened.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
That's genius.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
That's actually I love that I starting a guiver of beauty.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
Yeah, you really should. It should be like a little
sub channel.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
Yeah, I've run out of ideas, but that was all
I had besides all my other great ones.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
What's your Beauty?
Speaker 1 (21:02):
A bit of a PSA and I'm really loving a
p SA right now. I actually really am on eye.
I feel like yeahs soap and we will link the
video that I'm referencing in the show notes. But it's
been making the rounds on socials over the last couple
of weeks. There was this lovely lass who basically came
(21:23):
out and talked about what an esthetician has done to
her skin. Have you seen it? Yes, in La an
esthetician is kind of like between a skin therapist and
a dermatologist.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
I would say, like.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
They've done a bit of training, but not well.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
I mean it also depends where here they're very good.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
They are.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Yeah, America, I think you can just like go and
buy lasers and stuff and call yourself.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
A And it was just a reminder. So firstly, this
esthetician who she trusted with her face after many treatments,
burnt her skin, actually burnt her skin so badly.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
The treatment was she having. Do you recall they were
doing appeal? Yeah, yes, that's right.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
Appeals. People think, oh, it's just appeal. It's just something
that you can know.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
Like putting acid on your phone.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
People can go so wrong. And this is just why
it's so important to know who you're going to and anyway,
and then she proceeded to like the lady was kept
trying to fix it. She spent sixty thousand dollars. Firstly,
if someone ever stuffed something up, they kept.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
Going back to the same person trying to get it fixed.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
Because the lady said, hey, I can help you with this,
I can fix this. Sad, but that lady should have
then covered it.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
I remember, but I would also not go back to that.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
No, no, no, But I remember when my sister was younger,
she's always had really sensitive skin, and she went to
a salon for her eyebrows to be threaded and plucked,
and they waxed, and she'd said to them, I've got
sensitive skin.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
Much skin lifted, like literally takes his skin off.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
And that happened. And the next day was her formal
and she was so self conscious. And I called them
up and I said, she told you that she had
sensitive skin. And I've always been a really like bossy
big sister. I said, so you can help her cover
this up. So I took her back in there and
made them help cover it up. Yeah, because my makeup
(23:11):
wasn't cutting it. And also just to be like, look
what you did because you didn't listen.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
I think it's a.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
Really important reminder that these things are serious. You know,
we especially in our beauty bubble here, we talk about
like these things like it ain't no thing, but getting
professional treatments, whether it's needling, lasers, peels, it's pretty full
on and it can cause a lot of damage in
the wrong hand. So word of mouth, asking for recommendations
from friends.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
Also trusting your gut. So I have told you about
this before. When I was in my twenties, I was
doing a trial with a brand, so I was in
beauty media, so it was comped, and I was doing
weekly facials because they were trying to clear up my accounts, right,
And my skin progressively got worse and it looked always burnt,
and my acne was just catastrophically getting worse, and they
(24:00):
were going, it's purging, it's purging. No, no, uggr gut,
You're not purging for that long. And in the end
I did finally listen to my gut and just went, no, no,
this is not right. But I just I really felt
for that girl. And it's just a real reminded to
look into don't buy group on vouchers for treatments. Yeah,
don't go to someone with a little to no qualification sex,
(24:24):
word of mouth, asking the your beauty.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
Facebook and how about a consultant. Go home and think
about it.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
I google reform.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
But there's a scar on my arm that's from when
I was nineteen. I got the bus in from where
I lived into the city and I had a laser
hair removal test patch back then because I've got very
hairy arms. I shaved them now see busines, and that
scar still I'm forty three, because they burnt, like through
to the bone. And I remember calling the next day
and like there was no camera phones. I was like,
and so I had to go back and show them
(24:50):
and they're like, oh, that's yeah, that's.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
Your fault, and I was like okay.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
And I was already ashamed of my hairy arms, and
you know, then you ashamed of your scars, and that's
the thing. Well, I'm not I'm just like your negodgence.
But when you're younger, I don't think there was no
social media to call people out.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
And I'm not a huge calling out. I firmly believe
that a lot of business should be handled behind cl
doors because you don't realize that it can really impact
a small business. So if you can sort it out behind.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
Closed doors, please, And most people have good intentions, but yes,
follow your gut, do you. Yeah, just don't go for
the bargain when it's your face in someone else's hands.
I was just a little another soapbox persae that toothfloss
soapboxes better finally go home and wash my makeup. Oh,
I hope you had a good time. Thank you so
much for joining us on New Beauty. We'll be back
together our gosh, before we know what. I hope Kelly's
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been home by then.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
Hopefully I've showered.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
If you will faith In the meantime, follow us on
Instagram you can see all the behind the scenes treths
and on.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
YouTube that's where the episodes go live. Every single note.
The episodes drop in your podcast feed in the morning
and then on YouTube later at nighttime. Yeah, so you
can listen and then watch, or you can do whatever
your preference is.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
Yeah, and we'll see you next time.
Speaker 5 (25:58):
Bye bye,
You're listening to a MoMA Mia podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Mamma Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and waters
that this podcast is recorded on Hello friends, it's Lee here,
and it's a lovely Monday. Well it's better because I've
got a great episode of You Beauty that I want
you to listen to. Kelly and I have some genius
tips if I do say so myself, that's going to
help you make more of an effort on Monday.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
So have a listen.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Makeup is my therapy.
Speaker 4 (00:36):
I'm in love, I'm obsess and I don't even feel
guilty about it.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Hello, and welcome to You Beauty. I am Lee Campbell,
I'm Kelly McCarron.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
And before we get into today's show, let's see what's
happening in the world of beauty.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
You look like a real news reader saying I do.
Speaker 5 (00:54):
This is the Beauty Edit, your weekly download of everything
you missed in the beauty world. I'm Amy Clark, mom
and me is lifestyle editor and tinted lipbum lover.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
And I'm Cas Green mom and me is Morning editor
and I forgot Miscara today. Anyway, here's what's trending.
Speaker 5 (01:09):
Forget your face. You can now try micro needling hair products.
So something that was not on my beauty bingo card
for twenty twenty five but definitely should have been micro
needling shampoo. From the same Korean skincare brand that brought
us that viral micro needling in a bottle Reedle serum
comes a scalp shampoo that promises a cleaner scalp and
(01:31):
healthier hair.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Juna Zoo reviewed the new.
Speaker 5 (01:34):
VT Cosmetics PDRN Reedleshot Scalp shampoo on mammamea dot com
de au and wrote that her scalp has never felt
so fresh. What did you think when we first published
this storycast.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
Look Amy, The formula is really interesting because it contains
a lot of buzzy kind of ingredients, the first being
something called PDRN otherwise known as salmon DNA, but in
this case it's actually a plant derived version. So it
also has the brand's Reedle shot microspicules, which for the
uninitiated are kind of crystallized ultra fine needle like structures
(02:05):
about fourteen times smaller than a single paw on your face.
Juna says these don't but they do help to remove
dead skin cells and create microscopic channels in your scalp
skin for better ingredient absorption.
Speaker 5 (02:17):
It is just another example of that skinnification of all
of the categories. But as someone who doesn't wash their
hair without a scalp step ever, I would one hundred
percent try this. I have seen people who dorm or
roll their scalp and this looks like a lot less effort.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Plus, it feels much.
Speaker 5 (02:34):
More low risk than the reedal face serum because it's in.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
A wash off format for my head.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
Louis Vuitton has just launched its first ever makeup line,
Love You Tay Woo Woo So, with legendary British makeup
artist Dame Pat McGrath leading the creative direction. The line
features refillable high end products, including an eye shadow palette
and lipsticks in Balm, satin and Matt finishes. So this
collection is a lot more luxury airlooms than makeup products.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
The main catch is the price.
Speaker 5 (03:04):
I am like low key obsessed with the fact that
in twenty twenty five, with cost of living, not only
are Louis Vaton's beauty products to luxury for the everyday person,
but they're also too luxury.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
For the luxury beauty category.
Speaker 5 (03:19):
As Business of Beauty put it four hundred and twenty
dollars for an eyeshadow quad or a seven hundred and
sixty five dollar monogram LV cosmetic lipstick pouch is quote
in an entirely new galaxy of inaccessibility. For context, let's
compare some luxury lipsticks on the market, So do your lipsticks.
(03:39):
They start at the lower end of the scale at
sixty nine dollars, Chanelle from seventy five, tom Ford from
eighty eight dollars, and the Ermez lipsticks are one hundred
and eleven dollars. There's also Patmogra's eponymous line costs seventy dollars,
while this Louis Vaton lipstick sits at two hundred and
sixty five dollars.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
Well, yeah, it's quite shocking and quality wise, there is
absolutely no doubt that any Patmograth formula is going to
be impeccable and what you're paying for it is an innovation,
but a piece of fashion and beauty history.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
They're essentially collectus.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
Items and we're all going to want one in our bag,
but can we afford it?
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Who knows? Absolutely not.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
It's an interesting choice to take this route when Traditionally
luxury beauty products have been priced as a kind of
entry point into fashion houses. So you can also buy
these direct from lou Vaton, but we're yet to see
where Elsi's might be ranged in Australia.
Speaker 5 (04:31):
Can AI replace your dermatologist? Lareo is kind of asking
us to consider this. Recently, they have launched their own
beauty genius AI Skin Assistant. It's different to a virtual
try on, which has been around for a while, where
you can kind of virtually try on a lipstick, shade
or a foundation through AI on various beauty websites. Now
you can actually do a skin consultation through your smartphone,
(04:54):
kind of like a skin therapist, kind of like a
dermal clinician in your pocket. I mean, working in media,
we are all very sensitive about how AI could be coming.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
For our jobs.
Speaker 5 (05:04):
Cas, do you think dermatologists should be worried?
Speaker 4 (05:07):
Look, Amy, I think there's always going to be a
place for dermatologists. There's really no getting over their kind
of expertise. But I do think it's a really fun
new tool. I think most of us are feeling super
overwhelmed when it comes to beauty and skincare. Most of
us are googling actives like crazy and looking up ingredients
in our various products. So I think a way to
kind of decode that at home makes a lot of
(05:29):
sense as a kind of replacement for your Google search
or your own kind of research that you might do
and like. This particular app has over one hundred and
fifty thousand annotations from dermatologists and supposedly delivers up to
ninety five percent accuracy, So I would say is probably
better than Google, but it's definitely not going to be
better than your dermatologists. They go to school for a reason.
(05:49):
They're amazing at what they do. We love them, so yeah,
it's not about to replace them, but it's a nice
little addition to your beauty regime. Now you're up to date,
let's get into all your beauty Q and a's with
Lee and Kelly.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
I couldn't help, but wonder asked me anything. You ask
many questions, potty question. It's coming through from our instat
would love to hear how the collective? How are you
touching up your makeup during the day? Is powder still
a thing? How do I know which powder to use?
Do I choose the same brand and color as my
foundation or is there some universal touch up powder that
(06:24):
everyone is using. Help. I have dry skin, but I
get a shine going through the day as my makeup
wears off.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Well that's good because we can both probably help because
I'm a powder girl expert and you're dry.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
But do you ever touch up with a powder?
Speaker 1 (06:38):
I don't touch up, but I do.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
Oh I do?
Speaker 1 (06:41):
I do?
Speaker 3 (06:41):
I do?
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Okay, as we will talk about like obviously I'm still going.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
I did my makeup on Saturday, it's now Monday. Can
you imagine, Oh my god, I drop.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
I actually think that my makeup would still slap. It
does not move, I can imagine. And you know how
some products are like seventy two hour ware. I'm like,
why if you're bendering, that's why.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
No, that is not appropriate. You should still wash your
face anyway. Yes, my lovely Instagram friend, powder is such
a thing. And I think maybe you're thinking back because
you say, do I choose the same brand than color
as my foundation. That's a bit a bygone era where
you kind of used to see women open a compact
and it was you know, skin tone color, and oftentimes
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if you still see those, they're a powdered foundation not
really kind of a touchup. You want something translucent and
truly translucent. I am the boss of that because I
need to touch up throughout the day. I have been
out with Kelly and I think even Mia, and I've
just sat there with blotting papers on my face. So
as it warms up, I definitely need to do this too.
I'm combo, so the sides of my face are actually
(07:43):
getting dryer and dryer as I get more experienced, but
the center remains combination.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
Oily, Can I make some recommendation?
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Please do?
Speaker 3 (07:52):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (07:53):
The fenty Beauty in Usy Matt instant setting and blotting
powder is fantastic. You can get a little size for
twenty seven dollars, so that's a pressed powder. Ain't nobody
got time? Well maybe people do, but I don't do
a loose powder when im mountain about because it's just
way too messy. So that's really good. Another one that
I really really love is the inners Free no Sebam
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mineral powder. There's two versions, so if you're looking online,
the new version is new Little travel Guy, but you
only ever need travel in these situations. Firstly, because you
said you're touching up but secondly, you're never gonna go
through it all. It's nine dollars fifty. I love it,
and you're gonna need if you're gonna use one of those.
(08:34):
You want a little brush if you're gonna do a
pressed powder thing, ease. Some of them come with that
little puffy thing. But meno liky don't know because it's
you can't really, I just don't like it.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
I mean you might.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
So two brush recommendations to go with your powder that
you're taking in your handbag. The Mecha Max retractable travel brush.
It's just one of those boo but it's gonna lid
because you don't want brush in your makeup bag. That's
then gonna dirty it. Twenty bucks or on Amazon three
pack retractable brush. So it's like three little face brushes.
So you might use one like you're a cream girl.
(09:06):
You could use one for cream products. You could use
one for you know, bronze or whatever, and one for
setting powder. Sixteen touch up if you want to. Some
people want to touch up their cream contour. Well, I
just think do it right the first time. You won't
have to anyway. Just get three brushes and then you've
got one in rotation when you're washing it. Another thing
I want to tell you about is blotting paper. I
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feel like you, my dry friend who just gets a
bit shiny. Blotting paper is perfect. It's literally a little
rectangle of like it looks like baking paper, and it's
got the tiniest film of translucent powder and you just
blot like that comes in a really thin little packet.
They're wonderful. Models prefer has some blotting papers. Unpack is
six dollars. My favorites are from Muji, Themoji Face blotting
(09:50):
cosmetic paper two dollars fifty.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
Oh one more thing.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
There's lots of them, but I like the Revlon one,
The Revlon Beauty Tool Volcanic Stone facial roller. Yes, it's
this little It kind of looks like a makeup brush,
I guess, but then the head's like a little it
looks like a marble, like a stone marble. It's made
out of volcanic rock, which is really porous and absorbs oil,
so you just roll it over your oily bit.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Because that's what I'm thinking. Given that she said that
she's dry, I actually don't think that her makeup is
wearing off during the day if you're priming and then
layering properly.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
So do you think she could fix this problem at application?
It depends because some people are face touches me. So
if you touch your face all day like you rest
your hands. You said that I want to touch my Yes,
then of course your makeup's going to start separating and
coming off a little bit in those areas.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
But she's saying she's just getting shiny.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Yeah, that's what I agree with you. I think just
a blotting paper.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Oh, she does say, as my makeup wears off. But yes,
if you're layering your products.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
The difference between I think that I could do my
makeup and it would look the same between ten minutes
and twenty minutes. The difference is like I've got time
to do it, Yes, Like I could do the same
look to the naked eye. Yeah, in ten minutes or
twenty minutes. But when I spend the time and lay
up my products properly and spend time, my makeup will
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not move. Like I will go play netball after a
full day of recording and my makeup is still pretty good.
The only place that it tends to move at the
moment is my upper lip because of hey fever season.
So I'm blowing my nose a lot, that's it, and
I eat and drink, so my lips around there, but
the rest of my face it doesn't move. And if
I was.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
Going to touch what are these steps, lady.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Well, for everyone it would be different, but for me,
it's like just taking the time doing my skin care
and then waiting a little bit.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Waiting is a lot of it because I think you go,
you know, skincare, sunscreen, foundation, and it's like everything's fine,
but it starts peeling off and wearing off a lot
quicker because you haven't allowed it.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
To think of it.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
When you're trying to paint your own nails, you've got
a let it dry between steps.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
It goes glug city.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Exactly as soon as you touch anything. So and then
I will always prime, and then I start with my.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Creen to not prime miss a crime crime.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
And then I'll always start with all of my cream
products and not use heaps of them, but lay out
after your foundation. After I've primed, and then crime, then foundation,
then like my conceal is my cream contour, my cream blush.
Then I will set everything with the equivalent powder products.
So in the areas that I've cream contoured, I will
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bronze whoa like It takes twenty minutes, not ten minutes,
but it lasts all day. And then if I am like.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
When do you do your setting spray last like a
Charlotte to every setting spray.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
I don't usually do it at the end of doing
my makeup. I'll just do it throughout the day to
sort of refresh my skin and make it look a
little bit glowier. And if I have got movement around
my mouth, I just sort of like press a dirty
concealer brush into the area without I do that done
to it, or I just cause you have fingers and
warm I kind of just smooge when it comes back.
(13:03):
And I also think that you need to remember that
no one's looking at your facely as closely as you are,
So though you think that you're make up separating and
wearing off in different no one's noticing. But also we
do it for us, so of course, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
but no one else is going to look at you
in as much detail, and why are we looking it up?
Like if I looked at my makeup right now, actually closely,
I'd find a lot wrong with it.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Well, you've been out since Saturday, I have. Yeah, that's
try one of those powders. Get a travel size, try
something affordable. But yeah, these truly translucent. They're called universally translucent.
They are actually clear, yes, exactly, and anyone can use them.
Maybe not the deeper skin tones. I think they've got
really nice translucent powders. It aren't white because they can
(13:44):
do a bit of a white cast, do they Yeah,
but for a lot of skin tones you can use
the translucent white ones. But then they do have specific
ones for darker skin tones.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
Excellent, Okay.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Naomi sent us the question, this is another makeup question,
because you know what we often find, we get a
lot of skin questions, you know, year round, but then
coming out to spring what we call.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
The party season.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
I've seen that this is going to be playful makeup summer.
Like people are saying that people are going to be
having fun. That doesn't mean you have to.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
Okay, well I want to. I feel left out anyway.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Naomi asked us the following question, Hello, I have a
makeup challenge.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
So as a girl in the know, I do what
girls do.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Challenge I think she means like problem problem, so at
if you will an undrum. So, as a girl in
the know, I do what girls do and head to
your beauty podcast for answers. I'm finding my makeup is pilling,
but only on one side of my face, between my
eyeline and my temple. It's the combination of serum, moisturizer, sunscreen, primer,
(14:52):
and tinted BB cream. That's its well everywhere on my face,
but those two spots. It's Pillar Paloosa. I love her,
She's got personality. Is it a combination of layers, poor
application technique? I use my fingers and a foundation brush,
not pouncing a sponge. She doesn't pounce Kelly, Kelly's a pouncer.
I've got to get you pouncing in Or is it
just some sort of weird karmic revenge for all the
(15:14):
times I've parked badly?
Speaker 3 (15:16):
Please help? I know the answer?
Speaker 1 (15:18):
So do I?
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Oh, well you go first, Now you go. Well, we
might have different answers, but I have experienced such conundrum.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Oh okay, I just think that potentially there's a build
up of dead skin cells and old makeup in that area,
and so she needs to use a chemical exfolia ding
ding Ding.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
This happens to me here, see because also I have
the strangest hairline where I have like three millimeters between
my eyebrows and my hair.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
How many do I have?
Speaker 5 (15:43):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (15:44):
Way more? Remember when I.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Use that type and my hair joined my eyebrows and
I had to have it threaded. So I often neglect
that area because I, you know, doing my skincare and
whatever chemic soolion or my vitamin A, I often don't
even I offically do stuff to its skincare wise, but
not enough. And this happened to me when my makeup
was great. I knew all the layers, I know what
(16:06):
layers play well, but just these two, like my temple
pretty much or just above my browbone to my hair
was peeling. Yeah, because even if you think about if
you do have a lot of space, yeah, a lot
of the time we just sort of focus on that
center part of our face and we don't. I even
sometimes have to remind myself to do my skincare up
onto my ears, yes, like my especially sunscreen, sunscreen and exfoliation,
(16:30):
because that skin is really neglected. Okay exactly, And I'm
going to recommend some products, but use one of these
because I've got some just you know Bha. You want
to probably an Aha Bha blend, just because there's sounds
like there's a lot of dead skin cells to get
rid of.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
But some of the.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
Wipes, like I think a cloth wipe is really easy.
Here those doctor Dennis Gross ones that are so expensive, yes,
well I've got cheaper ones.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
Well are they? I mean they're not as expensive.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
The First Aid Beauty has like a little twenty eight
pad travel thing, and also there is the prep and
glow by New Face and they've got little individually packed cloths.
Can I tell you get one of these when you're
doing your little eyebrow bit, do is behind your ear.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
And look at it. It's disgusting.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
It's disgusting.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
And also do your back because we often don't scrub
our bot.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
I agree, but just like do this and then also
do in your ear and all around like this behind
here is foul. I do mind quite a lot because
I enjoy it. So long story short, Naomi, it's probably exfoliation,
so use you know anything that you've got at home.
If you've already got a chemical exfoliant. The Paula's Choice
BHA is great that now comes in a little travel size.
I related to travel sizes today. It's a great way
(17:40):
to try different things as well, isn't it? As I said,
the new face little wipes are great. So it's the
first day. They're like little discs, but you could also
try if you wanted something that's a bit more manual.
Although this has kind of enzymes in it is our
favorite Dermologica daily mycrofole Oh yes, which is.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
Like a little clay.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
You had a little bit of water and then you
can kind of custom.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Buff how much buffing you want, yeah, how much.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
Stuffing you want on your face?
Speaker 1 (18:05):
I completely agree. I actually think that that is the
only possible option as to what well.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
I literally had this problem both sides, and I was like,
what's going on? And this was a time where I
was using the consistent like serum, sunscreen, makeup. I knew
they worked well. I exfoliated ding ding fix it right up.
Please everyone go get a swipey or even just a
cotton pad and clean behind your ears and of your face.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
It's so much fun. Yeah, and just report back on
the difference that it makes.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
And also when you're in the shower, if you cleanse
in the shower or not make sure you cleanse your
ears as well.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
It's very important.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
I clean myase every day just because it feels so good.
I know it's not supposed to.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Oh yes, the ear buddy things, but no, I mean, like, actually,
not inside your ear drum. Does inside your ear drum
feel that's naughty? I know I like doing that with
tooth foss.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
We're not in my ear anyway.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
You're supposed to floss your teeth. That's good.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
Yeah, I know, but I like, oh, okay.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Okay, onto, beauty bite, beauty bite. I did not even
mean to have a segue, but mine's got to do
with tooth foss. I wish I brought some, but my
hair's up anyway. So frizz City's either raining and your
hair's frizzy, or it's getting humid and your hair's frizzy.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
Maybe not when I want.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
I know I'm weird, but obviously sometimes you can just
use product and a serum. You can use a toothbrush.
But did you know this is what I've done when
I've been in an emergency, a frizz emergency. Do you
have toothfloss with you? Like all the time?
Speaker 1 (19:35):
No, because I hate the feeling, and I never floss
my teeth. I'm fine. The dentist has not know.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
Well, look I'm a floss addict, and it's not great.
I normally have those little pixture things. But if you've
got regular toothfloss and you don't have any hair products,
you get a tiny bit of lip balm or something
and you put it on the floss.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
I wish I could do it.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Doesn't even already have like some product on.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
It's a bit waxy, but you know, we're working with frizzy, okay.
And then you put it. I put it on my
centerpart and then I go, h really firm.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
I bet that works a true it does.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
It's so satisfying. I mean, if you've got hairspray, great
or like whatever. But if you've really stuck on a
desert island with lip part and toothfloss and you're really
worried about your frizze, you know, because the island's great,
you literally get like a length of you know, a
couple of centimeters. Well what's that twenty centimeters? I don't know, yes,
and then like just like I just put like a
(20:24):
tiny bit of lip balm. I've got like a a
chuby lip barm on it and then you just hold
it where your parties are, where the frizze is quite firm,
like like you're putting a hat on, and then you
just slide it down the length of your hair and
it just MUSHes it. Yes, and then you're not getting
lots of juicy lip farm on your hands. But also
your hands are way too heavy handed because it's the
(20:44):
tiniest string with the of lip balm, it just smushes
them down. But it's like nothing happened.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
That's genius.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
That's actually I love that I starting a guiver of beauty.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
Yeah, you really should. It should be like a little
sub channel.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
Yeah, I've run out of ideas, but that was all
I had besides all my other great ones.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
What's your Beauty?
Speaker 1 (21:02):
A bit of a PSA and I'm really loving a
p SA right now. I actually really am on eye.
I feel like yeahs soap and we will link the
video that I'm referencing in the show notes. But it's
been making the rounds on socials over the last couple
of weeks. There was this lovely lass who basically came
(21:23):
out and talked about what an esthetician has done to
her skin. Have you seen it? Yes, in La an
esthetician is kind of like between a skin therapist and
a dermatologist.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
I would say, like.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
They've done a bit of training, but not well.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
I mean it also depends where here they're very good.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
They are.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Yeah, America, I think you can just like go and
buy lasers and stuff and call yourself.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
A And it was just a reminder. So firstly, this
esthetician who she trusted with her face after many treatments,
burnt her skin, actually burnt her skin so badly.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
The treatment was she having. Do you recall they were
doing appeal? Yeah, yes, that's right.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
Appeals. People think, oh, it's just appeal. It's just something
that you can know.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
Like putting acid on your phone.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
People can go so wrong. And this is just why
it's so important to know who you're going to and anyway,
and then she proceeded to like the lady was kept
trying to fix it. She spent sixty thousand dollars. Firstly,
if someone ever stuffed something up, they kept.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
Going back to the same person trying to get it fixed.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
Because the lady said, hey, I can help you with this,
I can fix this. Sad, but that lady should have
then covered it.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
I remember, but I would also not go back to that.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
No, no, no, But I remember when my sister was younger,
she's always had really sensitive skin, and she went to
a salon for her eyebrows to be threaded and plucked,
and they waxed, and she'd said to them, I've got
sensitive skin.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
Much skin lifted, like literally takes his skin off.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
And that happened. And the next day was her formal
and she was so self conscious. And I called them
up and I said, she told you that she had
sensitive skin. And I've always been a really like bossy
big sister. I said, so you can help her cover
this up. So I took her back in there and
made them help cover it up. Yeah, because my makeup
(23:11):
wasn't cutting it. And also just to be like, look
what you did because you didn't listen.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
I think it's a.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
Really important reminder that these things are serious. You know,
we especially in our beauty bubble here, we talk about
like these things like it ain't no thing, but getting
professional treatments, whether it's needling, lasers, peels, it's pretty full
on and it can cause a lot of damage in
the wrong hand. So word of mouth, asking for recommendations
from friends.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
Also trusting your gut. So I have told you about
this before. When I was in my twenties, I was
doing a trial with a brand, so I was in
beauty media, so it was comped, and I was doing
weekly facials because they were trying to clear up my accounts, right,
And my skin progressively got worse and it looked always burnt,
and my acne was just catastrophically getting worse, and they
(24:00):
were going, it's purging, it's purging. No, no, uggr gut,
You're not purging for that long. And in the end
I did finally listen to my gut and just went, no, no,
this is not right. But I just I really felt
for that girl. And it's just a real reminded to
look into don't buy group on vouchers for treatments. Yeah,
don't go to someone with a little to no qualification sex,
(24:24):
word of mouth, asking the your beauty.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
Facebook and how about a consultant. Go home and think
about it.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
I google reform.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
But there's a scar on my arm that's from when
I was nineteen. I got the bus in from where
I lived into the city and I had a laser
hair removal test patch back then because I've got very
hairy arms. I shaved them now see busines, and that
scar still I'm forty three, because they burnt, like through
to the bone. And I remember calling the next day
and like there was no camera phones. I was like,
and so I had to go back and show them
(24:50):
and they're like, oh, that's yeah, that's.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
Your fault, and I was like okay.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
And I was already ashamed of my hairy arms, and
you know, then you ashamed of your scars, and that's
the thing. Well, I'm not I'm just like your negodgence.
But when you're younger, I don't think there was no
social media to call people out.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
And I'm not a huge calling out. I firmly believe
that a lot of business should be handled behind cl
doors because you don't realize that it can really impact
a small business. So if you can sort it out behind.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
Closed doors, please, And most people have good intentions, but yes,
follow your gut, do you. Yeah, just don't go for
the bargain when it's your face in someone else's hands.
I was just a little another soapbox persae that toothfloss
soapboxes better finally go home and wash my makeup. Oh,
I hope you had a good time. Thank you so
much for joining us on New Beauty. We'll be back
together our gosh, before we know what. I hope Kelly's
(25:34):
been home by then.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
Hopefully I've showered.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
If you will faith In the meantime, follow us on
Instagram you can see all the behind the scenes treths
and on.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
YouTube that's where the episodes go live. Every single note.
The episodes drop in your podcast feed in the morning
and then on YouTube later at nighttime. Yeah, so you
can listen and then watch, or you can do whatever
your preference is.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
Yeah, and we'll see you next time.
Speaker 5 (25:58):
Bye bye,
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